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| 02:00.02 | Gnarfoz | sb Stanzilla http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/bild-950825-652409.html ;D |
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| 08:54.38 | quiescens | ! |
| 08:55.02 | Timmeh | ยก |
| 08:55.27 | sb | morning |
| 08:55.44 | quiescens | o/ |
| 08:55.49 | Timmeh | \o |
| 08:56.26 | Workfoz | T__T |
| 08:56.31 | Workfoz | ZZZZZzzzzzzzZzZzzzzZz |
| 08:56.58 | Timmeh | changes Workfoz' nick to Sleepfoz. |
| 08:57.20 | Workfoz | changes quiescens nick to Timmeh |
| 08:57.29 | Timmeh | O_O |
| 08:57.38 | Timmeh | mine! :-( |
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| 09:11.29 | znf | Someone thought it would be "funny" to have both pure-ftpd and proftpd under debian/ubuntu virtual-provie "ftp-server" |
| 09:12.11 | nevcairiel | whats so bad about that? so you have two ftp servers you can choose from |
| 09:12.19 | nevcairiel | its quite common |
| 09:12.34 | znf | nevcairiel, you can't install both because they conflict on ftp-server |
| 09:13.58 | znf | which is, well, dumb... I mean, you can change their running port, so you could run them both at the same time |
| 09:14.09 | nevcairiel | why the hell would you want that |
| 09:14.20 | znf | dunno, a friend of mine wants to run them both, I didn't ask |
| 09:14.27 | nevcairiel | tell him he is a moron |
| 09:14.38 | znf | maybe he needs both for different purposes on the same machine |
| 09:17.48 | nevcairiel | run two instances of proftpd with different configs |
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| 09:36.42 | Timmeh | znf: the fact that two packages provide a same other package doesn't necessarily mean they conflict |
| 09:36.57 | znf | Timmeh, The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 09:36.57 | znf | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:36.57 | znf | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:36.57 | znf | E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. |
| 09:37.03 | Timmeh | except, obviously, if those packages have a 'Conflicts: nameofvirtualpackage' in there |
| 09:37.05 | znf | can't apt-get install them :P |
| 09:37.06 | znf | yeah ^ |
| 09:37.07 | znf | :> |
| 09:37.12 | Timmeh | well yea, there you go, that's different |
| 09:38.09 | Timmeh | look at a random dictionary package, they all generally provide a virtual package, so another package can just depend on "having at least one dictionary package" |
| 09:38.43 | sb | http://t3n.de/news/mchome-mcdonalds-lieferservice-526395/ |
| 09:38.45 | sb | yay! i wants |
| 09:38.58 | Timmeh | like the 'aspell' packages, 'aspell-de' and 'aspell-en' both provide 'aspell-dictionary', just for that purpose |
| 09:39.26 | Timmeh | znf: the reason they conflict is probably because of what nevcairiel said :-P |
| 09:40.24 | Timmeh | there's multiple other packages which use the same thing + alternatives to set the version to use "by default" |
| 09:40.29 | Timmeh | just for ftp-server apparently not :-D |
| 09:40.37 | sb | they should do this for http :/ |
| 09:40.44 | sb | stupid apache2 dependencies |
| 09:43.50 | Timmeh | znf: another suggestion, don't use FTP :-D |
| 09:44.08 | znf | sb, they shouldn't |
| 09:44.19 | znf | there's cases where you could/would want more than one http server |
| 09:44.43 | Timmeh | well, they could make a virtual package provided by the different http servers, doesn't mean they have to conflict :-P |
| 09:44.54 | znf | like having nginx as a front-end for apache |
| 09:45.02 | sb | thats not the point - i dont want software to install apache2 |
| 09:45.21 | znf | do you run a http server other than apache2? |
| 09:45.33 | sb | nginx |
| 09:45.41 | znf | and what software wants to install apache? |
| 09:46.35 | Timmeh | it may be a recommends-chain, as in package X depending on an apache2-lib, which recommends apache2, or something. you can, in that case, still decide not to install the recommendation |
| 09:46.53 | znf | I'm quite curious :P |
| 09:47.05 | Timmeh | `aptitude -R` or `apt-get --no-install-recommends` :-P |
| 09:47.10 | Timmeh | for the easy way out :-P |
| 09:47.15 | sb | nagios3-cgi -> libapache2-mod-php5 -> apache2 |
| 09:47.20 | sb | depends, not recommends |
| 09:47.37 | Timmeh | but nagios3-cgi depends on *any* php |
| 09:47.47 | Timmeh | not libapache2-mod-php5 |
| 09:47.59 | sb | oh, its an or :D |
| 09:48.00 | Timmeh | it's `libapache2-mod-php5 | php5 | php5-cgi` |
| 09:48.02 | sb | lind me |
| 09:48.03 | sb | blind |
| 09:48.08 | znf | why would nagios3 depend libapache2-mod-php5?! |
| 09:48.23 | Timmeh | it's nagios3's CGI interface, written in PHP, I'd guess |
| 09:49.39 | znf | libapache2-mod-php5 | php5 | php5-cgi |
| 09:49.42 | znf | so any php! :P |
| 09:49.47 | znf | like Timmeh said |
| 09:49.52 | znf | and I didn't see that he did |
| 09:50.20 | Timmeh | znf: :-( now you scared bluspacecow off |
| 09:50.52 | quiescens | ): |
| 09:51.31 | znf | sb, so why don't you have any php installed? |
| 09:51.44 | Timmeh | znf: most FTP clients nowadays support SFTP, right? |
| 09:51.45 | sb | its some other package then, no idea |
| 09:51.57 | znf | Timmeh, probably |
| 09:52.00 | Timmeh | so GO AWAY FTP! |
| 09:52.02 | sb | i dont care :D |
| 09:52.09 | znf | I'm still waiting for that guy to tell me why he needs both :P |
| 09:52.12 | sb | and what Timmeh says :p |
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| 11:05.14 | oscarucb | packager seems to be runnign very slowly right now |
| 11:05.46 | oscarucb | http://www.wowace.com/packager : There was an error displaying this markup. Please report this to a moderator. |
| 11:28.07 | Workfoz | Timmeh: sftp is not ftp at all, so no, ftp servers probably don't |
| 11:28.19 | Workfoz | Timmeh: ftps, which is ftp in ssl, the prominent ones do |
| 11:28.38 | Workfoz | actually, probably some support sftp, *shrug* |
| 11:28.44 | Workfoz | it's still not ftp |
| 11:28.45 | Workfoz | :D |
| 11:28.56 | Workfoz | time to grab the most sleep-inducing lunch |
| 11:29.12 | Workfoz | http://www.metzgerei-kauffeld.de/onlineAuthor/index.php?engine=frontend&scope=menus&do=butcheryMain SCHNITZELAUFLAUF :D |
| 11:29.45 | Timmeh | Workfoz: I was talking about clients |
| 11:29.47 | Timmeh | not servers :-P |
| 11:30.15 | Workfoz | mhhh, yes you were |
| 11:30.37 | Timmeh | I know that FTP is not SFTP, which is one of the reasons SFTP is better than FTP :-P |
| 11:31.05 | Workfoz | that's the primary reason for anything that's better than ftp |
| 11:31.07 | Workfoz | :D |
| 11:31.10 | Timmeh | for example, Workfoz is not FTP, which is why Workfoz is better than FTP |
| 11:31.12 | Timmeh | :-D |
| 11:31.16 | Workfoz | yep |
| 11:31.20 | Workfoz | > FTP |
| 11:31.31 | Timmeh | totally |
| 11:31.34 | quiescens | nerf workfoz |
| 11:31.39 | Timmeh | that too |
| 11:31.43 | Workfoz | quiescens: lunch is so gonna nerf me |
| 11:31.52 | Workfoz | probably not going to get anything done for the rest of the day ;p |
| 11:32.59 | nevcairiel | whats for lunch thats so bad |
| 11:33.39 | Workfoz | see above |
| 11:34.01 | nevcairiel | doesnt sound too bad |
| 11:34.29 | nevcairiel | not like its a haxe or something with loads of fate |
| 11:34.35 | nevcairiel | fat* |
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| 12:00.08 | sb | Workfoz: np within temptation - hydra |
| 12:00.30 | sb | Workfoz: reminds me, need to talk about outandloud |
| 12:05.10 | Stanzilla | hello |
| 12:06.39 | sb | hi Stanzilla |
| 12:08.55 | Stanzilla | sup |
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| 12:45.49 | Workfoz | nevcairiel sb Stanzilla http://i.imgur.com/5gr9KXH.jpg nom nom nom :) |
| 12:46.12 | Stanzilla | :| |
| 12:46.17 | Stanzilla | envy much |
| 12:46.22 | Stanzilla | I'm getting toast hawaii though |
| 12:48.28 | Workfoz | good for you |
| 12:48.29 | Workfoz | :) |
| 12:49.50 | nevcairiel | did your mom make it for you? :P |
| 12:50.05 | Stanzilla | no, the oven |
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| 12:56.23 | Stanzilla | wait |
| 12:56.25 | Stanzilla | I take that back |
| 12:56.30 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: no, yours did! |
| 12:56.41 | Workfoz | late "no u"? |
| 12:57.12 | nevcairiel | that must be some old toast, considering she hasnt been making anything for like 18 years now |
| 12:57.52 | Stanzilla | crunches |
| 13:10.55 | Workfoz | sb: le new album? |
| 13:18.11 | Stanzilla | sb Gnarfoz AllCast update is out, full CC support now \o/ |
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| 13:19.52 | Stanzilla | Workfoz in that case |
| 13:20.01 | Stanzilla | why the new nick/client btw? |
| 13:21.09 | Funkeh` | it's alive |
| 13:39.28 | Workfoz | Stanzilla: 4 reelz? o_o |
| 13:40.07 | Workfoz | Stanzilla: I was pessimistic and assumed it would just be a pretty $35 paperweight for me, pretty much |
| 13:41.08 | nevcairiel | streaming from a phone to chromecast is nice and all |
| 13:41.17 | nevcairiel | but i wish their sdk would allow desktop apps to stream |
| 13:41.20 | nevcairiel | and not only chrome |
| 13:43.08 | Megalon | then it could be a remote for candycrush on the tv |
| 14:03.17 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: it does I guess |
| 14:03.31 | Stanzilla | because I think I can stream from my nas to chromecast |
| 14:04.45 | Workfoz | Stanzilla: btw, it's my irccloud client |
| 14:04.57 | Workfoz | Stanzilla: so I can IRC inconspicuously ;-) |
| 14:05.57 | Stanzilla | k |
| 14:06.08 | Stanzilla | oh MS finally has a new CEO |
| 14:06.23 | Funkeh` | such a shady foz |
| 14:07.52 | Funkeh` | satya nadella |
| 14:08.51 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 14:08.55 | Stanzilla | indian power |
| 14:12.22 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: nah i checked the sdk, it only has ios/android/chrome |
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| 14:17.00 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: so chrome apps? |
| 14:17.12 | nevcairiel | or websites |
| 14:17.22 | nevcairiel | they can use it via JS |
| 14:17.33 | Stanzilla | just make a chrome desktop app then |
| 14:17.42 | nevcairiel | nah thats stupid |
| 14:17.50 | Stanzilla | why? |
| 14:18.59 | nevcairiel | because it requires chrome |
| 14:20.24 | Stanzilla | I don't see how that is an issue though :D |
| 14:20.50 | nevcairiel | thats because I don't ask you :p |
| 14:21.13 | Stanzilla | pff |
| 14:21.29 | Stanzilla | chrome apps can run without having chrome open soon btw |
| 14:21.40 | nevcairiel | but they need chrome installed in the first place |
| 14:21.55 | Stanzilla | yep |
| 14:27.32 | sb | Workfoz: yes |
| 14:27.36 | sb | Stanzilla: whats allcast? |
| 14:27.59 | sb | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:47.35 | quiescens | moo |
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| 14:50.41 | Workfoz | sb: yes |
| 14:50.52 | Workfoz | sb: rather, clockworkmod guy, but he's also with CM |
| 14:53.01 | Workfoz | sb: in the beginning it was what allowed you to cast anything to your chromecast, then google broke that twice, the second time without an exploitable loophole, so he inverted what the app does and instead made it basically Yet Another DLNA thing (kinda)... now that the SDK is here, he put in the 20 minutes it took to re-integrate chromecast into the app |
| 15:00.06 | sb | i see |
| 15:00.52 | sb | i dont know what to stream :D youtube is fine, but what else? |
| 15:10.17 | znf | Stanzilla, http://asset-d.soup.io/asset/6695/4253_dd1d_400.jpeg |
| 15:15.49 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 15:15.50 | Stanzilla | and yes |
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| 15:35.53 | Semlar | Stanzilla: how possible would it be to create an addon that adds custom triggers to my weak auras |
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| 15:38.58 | Semlar | say i want to modify it to style nameplates |
| 15:42.30 | Workfoz | sb: google music :D |
| 15:42.39 | Workfoz | sb: oh wait, you have schpottifay |
| 15:42.45 | Neffi | Semlar: you might be overusing weakauras |
| 15:42.53 | Semlar | DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO |
| 15:42.58 | Neffi | There's a hammer/nail analogy somewhere around here |
| 15:43.07 | Workfoz | it's right there: --> |
| 15:43.20 | Neffi | Ah, thanks Workfoz. Semlar, see to that analogy. |
| 15:44.59 | Stanzilla | Semlar: dunno if possible |
| 15:45.01 | Stanzilla | don't think so |
| 15:45.15 | Semlar | :l |
| 15:53.12 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r11736 SiegeOfOrgrimmar/GarroshHellscream.lua: GarroshHellscream: Add counter for bombardment and malice. |
| 15:56.18 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r11737 (3 files in 2 directories): Bump DBM faker |
| 16:01.13 | Stanzilla | sad |
| 16:01.20 | Stanzilla | the author of Talon is an arrogant prick |
| 16:01.25 | Stanzilla | but the software is so good |
| 16:02.16 | znf | Stanzilla, talon? |
| 16:02.21 | znf | oh |
| 16:02.24 | znf | the twitter thingie? |
| 16:07.08 | Workfoz | probably |
| 16:11.05 | Repo | bigwigs_wrathofthelichking: 03funkydude * r29 Ulduar/Thorim.lua: Thorim: bugfix |
| 16:17.22 | Stanzilla | yes znf |
| 16:26.14 | Workfoz | sb: is "Paradise" with Tarja? |
| 16:27.36 | Workfoz | indeed it is |
| 16:28.02 | znf | people that don't allow downloads on scribd annoy me :( |
| 16:28.45 | Stanzilla | people annoy me |
| 16:31.31 | Repo | bigwigs_wrathofthelichking: 03funkydude * r30 Ulduar/Auriaya.lua: Auriaya: bugfix |
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| 16:38.17 | Stanzilla | haha what |
| 16:38.18 | Stanzilla | 3x [ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED] AddOn 'Ace3' tried to call the protected function 'CancelLogout()'. |
| 16:38.19 | Stanzilla | that's new |
| 16:39.11 | znf | no logging out for you! |
| 16:39.20 | znf | meh, I wanted to sleep a bit before raid time |
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| 16:59.54 | Workfoz | zeh napper |
| 17:00.14 | Workfoz | also, zeh Feierabend |
| 17:17.19 | quiescens | go to sleep |
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| 18:09.35 | znf | nevcairiel, would the scale of bartender bars affect performance in any ways? |
| 18:10.04 | nevcairiel | only in the sense that bigger frames need more pixels? :) |
| 18:11.30 | znf | nevcairiel, didn't I read something that ui scale can affect performance in a negative way? |
| 18:11.45 | nevcairiel | but its not ui scale, its frame scale |
| 18:12.16 | znf | thought they could be related |
| 18:31.58 | Neffi | znf: Where did you read that? (I may be wrong, but I'm gonna say that's false) |
| 18:32.16 | znf | Neffi, no idea |
| 18:32.16 | znf | I may have not, even! |
| 18:33.06 | Neffi | Maybe because it needs to spend some small amount of time applying a scaling algorithm to the frame? But WoW doesn't use very high quality scaling |
| 18:33.13 | Neffi | It shouldn't cause any impact |
| 18:35.49 | Neffi | nev would probably know more about this, but the results of scaling look worse than bilinear, so the cost should be nil |
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| 19:40.55 | nevcairiel | Most textures are scaled anyway, rare i bet that you would find many interface textures that are drawn in their native size |
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| 20:01.30 | Stanzilla | Welcome to the Steam Music Beta hellow |
| 20:08.28 | Funkeh` | bitch |
| 20:08.33 | Funkeh` | I got welcome to inhome stremaing |
| 20:08.42 | Funkeh` | streaming* |
| 20:12.31 | znf | binary health! http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/CPbGJHWa2m8x7ZQy/#type=deaths |
| 20:12.43 | Stanzilla | got that ages ago Funkeh` |
| 20:13.57 | Stanzilla | @SteamDB: Don't tell anyone, but if you launch Steam with the -steamos launch parameter you get access to the Music Beta. #secrets |
| 20:13.59 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: ^ |
| 20:20.42 | Funkeh` | not really a secret |
| 20:20.48 | Funkeh` | "We're happy to announce that anyone running SteamOS will automatically have access to the feature once they opt to participate in the Steam Client Beta (via System Settings.) Others may express interest in beta participation by joining the Steam Music group. Members will receive email invites in waves, until the feature is released to everyone." |
| 20:21.25 | Stanzilla | the correct response would have been "thank you" |
| 20:21.26 | Stanzilla | BUT OK |
| 20:21.52 | Funkeh` | :p |
| 20:35.44 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel sb Gnarfoz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCK6jdgjG2A |
| 20:37.05 | Gnarfoz | znf: what am I looking at? |
| 20:37.25 | znf | Gnarfoz, a tank getting one-shot on warcraftlogs.com |
| 20:37.58 | Gnarfoz | hm? you didn't link to a specific player - I'm looking at a Boomkin |
| 20:38.13 | znf | Oh. |
| 20:38.18 | Gnarfoz | (and... what's new about this? doesn't look different than last week (or the week before)) |
| 20:38.26 | znf | http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/CPbGJHWa2m8x7ZQy/#type=deaths&fight=11 |
| 20:38.27 | znf | there :P |
| 20:38.32 | znf | Gnarfoz, othing, just fun! |
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| 20:38.41 | Gnarfoz | kk |
| 20:39.21 | Gnarfoz | mhhh I was just watching random Voyager episodes... suddenly: Kes |
| 20:39.27 | Gnarfoz | guess I skipped too far back ;p |
| 20:42.49 | Funkeh` | I wonder if you stream a 3rd party game if it needs to be in focus |
| 20:42.52 | Funkeh` | gonna test it after raid |
| 20:42.59 | Funkeh` | would be nice to stream a 2nd copy of wow to a laptop |
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| 21:46.06 | Repo | boss-notes: 03iverie 041.5.4.10 * r401 : Tagging as 1.5.4.10 |
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| 23:01.57 | Stanzilla | 4th garrosh 2hand axe heirloom |
| 23:06.35 | Gnarfoz | fuck you :< |
| 23:06.47 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: want one? |
| 23:07.00 | Gnarfoz | only if it's heroic |
| 23:13.26 | Stanzilla | 3 flex 1 normal :< |
| 23:13.49 | Stanzilla | also got 2 staffs |
| 23:13.51 | Stanzilla | 1 shield |
| 23:13.52 | Stanzilla | 1 offhand |
| 23:13.59 | Stanzilla | *staves |
| 23:15.05 | Megalon | staffs Stanzilla |
| 23:22.29 | znf | http://www.ebay.com/itm/Permanenter-Wildstar-Beta-Key-KEIN-STRESSTEST-/151225293323?pt=DE_PC_Videospiele&hash=item2335bada0b |
| 23:22.31 | znf | heh |
| 23:26.16 | Stanzilla | forgot one 1h axe Gnarfoz |
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