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08:07.38znfnevcairiel, are you awake by any chance? I got a ffmpeg question which I think you could answer
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12:01.20Stanzillaznf: http://i.imgur.com/3ixenwz.png
12:01.36znf:o
12:01.44znfthat's cool :D
12:02.03Stanzillayeah
12:03.00StanzillaI bet MysticalOS had it for ages and didn't tell!
12:03.31znfthat's what you did all night? :>
12:03.52Stanzillathe night before last night actually
12:04.05Stanzillalast night I just slept :D
12:05.08Fiskera beta within a beta or the hack Stanzilla ?
12:05.17znfI've been wrestling ffmpeg filters all night  :(
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12:06.04nebula169wonder why they've left bda chat disabled, seems to be fully working?
12:06.33Fiskertell me Stanzilla
12:06.36znfStanzilla, give modified .exe
12:06.46nebula169Fisker: its an edited exe
12:06.52znfGive
12:08.35znfpokes Stanzilla
12:09.59sbgiev
12:18.05nevcairieli hope they ban you all
12:18.15znfnevcairiel, oh, goodie, you're here!
12:18.27nevcairielnot talking to evil exploiters
12:19.34Fiskerhey nevcairiel
12:21.23Stanzillanebula169: nope, ram editing
12:21.26StanzillaFisker: ^
12:21.31Stanzillaand it's not fully working
12:21.51Stanzillaworks fine with D3/SC2, WoW only with wow.exe diting and HS doesnt work yet
12:22.05nebula169<Timmeh> so actual memory editing, or just hex editing the executable?
12:22.06nebula169<Stanzilla> both works
12:22.14Stanzillayeah I used ram though
12:22.15nebula169ew, editing wow.exe? no thanks
12:23.03Stanzillayou'd have to edit the wow.exe of the person you want to talk to
12:23.08Stanzillaso that's out of the question anyway
12:23.23Stanzillaso far wow can only recieve msgs just not answer
12:23.24nebula169doesn't just use bnet chat?
12:23.55Stanzillayeah but wow client doesn't see you as online atm and you can't whisper to offline people, there is a check in the exe that prevents that, if you remove that, it works
12:24.05nebula169i see
12:24.13Stanzillabut ppl can receive your msgs fine
12:24.21Fiskernot worth my time until they actually finally make the shit global
12:24.28nebula169yea
12:24.32nevcairielthey wont
12:24.32nebula169wonder why it isn't
12:24.56Stanzillalast I heard they had some server problems and disabled it because of that
12:25.04znf"You need at least 10 reputation to post more than 2 links." seriously, stack exchange? :(
12:25.38nebula169can't be letting unreputable people posting links to god knows what!
12:25.40Stanzillaand sure nevcairiel they will
12:25.44Stanzillawhen it works with all clients
12:25.46znfnevcairiel, HALP! http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21510521/ffmpeg-move-a-slider-image-over-a-background-from-0-to-100-in-sync-with-t
12:26.14znfdemo video: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/120650/video.mp4
12:26.16nevcairielthat depends what you mean with global, i figured Fisker means all regions
12:26.21StanzillaI'm guessing it will work with the new PTR though
12:26.30FiskerYes nevcairiel
12:26.30Stanzillaoh
12:26.31nevcairielyou know, global as in the world
12:26.33Stanzillayeah well then I dunno
12:26.34Fiskerand they will have to
12:26.35Stanzillaprobably not
12:26.40Fiskerbefore they die
12:26.56Fiskerglobal real id chat is the only thing keeping them from the brink of destruction
12:27.24Stanzillabnet app will go final with D3x1 and maybe they start another beta after that for social stuff
12:30.07znfcrap, that's the wrong video *sigh*
12:31.11Fiskerdon't you agree nevcairiel ?
12:31.27nevcairielI dont really need global chat
12:31.55FiskerWell the rest of the world does
12:32.20Stanzillaglobal is not of much use if you can't play global, too
12:32.25Stanzilla*global chat
12:32.49FiskerSure it is
12:32.50quiescensyou can talk to each other
12:32.53Fisker^^
12:32.56quiescensand discuss.. philosophy
12:33.01Stanzillawow
12:33.03quiescensenglish literature
12:33.05FiskerAlso they really should add global play for everything
12:33.06StanzillaI can do that on IRC just fine
12:33.06Stanzilla:p
12:33.12Fiskeryeah Stanzilla
12:33.14Fiskernot everyone is on irc
12:33.22FiskerSOME OF US HAVE FRIENDS
12:33.30Fiskerlike maybe nevcairiel
12:33.30nevcairielI suppose in diablo it might be of some use, you can still play with them, just not on the same chars
12:33.30Stanzillaeveryone I would add to blizzard friends list, is
12:33.56FiskerThey should just get over themselves and give us the opportunity
12:34.13FiskerAnd with RMAH gone it's even less of an issue
12:34.16silentiumfriends are for people who don't know how to irc
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15:01.55znfffmpeg is actually fun to learn
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15:24.38znfnevcairiel, could I possibly rewrite this ffmpeg -i video.mp3 -loop 1 -i video.png -filter_complex "[0] showwaves=size=1280x100:mode=line:r=25 [wave]; [1:v] [wave] overlay=0:y=H-h:shortest=1" -acodec copy -vcodec libx264 -crf 0 out.mp4 into using avconv?
15:34.38Megalonrewrites znf using Fisker
15:35.35znfdumps Megalon to /dev/null
15:35.51znfanyway, the answer to my above question seems to be "no", as avconv doesn't have a showwaves filter :(
15:45.10nevcairielffmpegs filtering capabilities are much more advanced these days
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16:52.24znfyay, I got +10 rep on stackoverflow
17:11.41pompy~slowclap znf
17:11.46pompy><
17:11.52znf(I got 10 more meanwhile!)
17:12.02pompywoohoo
17:13.33znfnevcairiel, doesn't x264 use something like "dirty regions"? ie: only half image changes, not all of it, encode only that half?
17:13.53nevcairielof course it does
17:14.03nevcairielalthough its much more fine grained then halfs of images
17:14.49znfHmmm. Wonder why it's creating a 44mb video :-/
17:14.55quiescensmoo
17:15.02nevcairielyou may not want crf 0
17:15.05znfI must be doing something wrong
17:15.10Ressyedfr
17:15.13znfI switched to -preset ultrafast
17:15.27Ressy+++
17:15.29quiescensalmost everything uses some form of progressive frames
17:15.30nevcairielthats just the quality/speed tradeoff, not the actual size
17:15.33znfAh
17:15.35quiescenso.o
17:15.53nevcairieluse -crf again (together with preset), but use a more reasonable number
17:15.59nevcairiel19 is usually rather high quality
17:16.04Fiskeryou can launch wow with commandlines set right?
17:16.17nevcairiel21 is a bit less quality but still pretty great
17:16.25nevcairiel0 is lossless encoding
17:16.30nevcairielwhich takes loads of space
17:16.38Fiskertell me nevcairiel
17:16.43nevcairielof course Fisker
17:16.53FiskerIt's +variable data right?
17:17.01nevcairielno idea, i only ever used -console
17:17.57znflet's see how bad is -crf 51
17:18.09nevcairielthats probably going to look horrible
17:18.40znfyeah, heh
17:18.58znfhttp://i.imgur.com/tDwMGo3.png
17:19.32nevcairieltry around 30 for a compromise in quality and size
17:19.56znfwish my CPU was faster >_<
17:20.33nevcairielwith ultrafast it should do pretty ok i imagine
17:20.39znf~58 fps encoding
17:25.54znfnevcairiel, between 25 and 30 there's a ~2MB differnce but the quality is so much better. Weird.
17:26.12nevcairielits not a linear scale
17:26.18nevcairielalso depends on the source material
17:29.34nevcairielif you want to ensure a certain size, you can set -maxrate
17:29.59nevcairielit'll never go over (although may go under if there is nothing to encode)
17:30.01znfand do 2pass?
17:30.09nevcairielnah crf supports maxrate
17:30.36znfmeh, screw it, it's good enough like this
17:30.38nevcairielits not an ideal combination of settings, but 2pass makes it even slower
17:41.52znfOh. .webm can't contain mp3 :(
17:42.14Stanzillause flac
17:42.34znflooks at Stanzilla
17:43.09znfI was trying to avoid recompressing the audio
17:43.38nevcairielwebm also can't contain h264
17:43.55nevcairielwebm is only vorbis+vp8, or opus+vp9
17:44.01znfit was just a thought :)
17:44.39nevcairieland whle opus is a nice audio codec, vp9 is stupid, its encoder is just just so terribly slow
17:58.07znfnevcairiel, I'll bother you again - is there some video codec that supports alpha channels?
17:58.29nevcairielno idea
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18:00.12znfnevcairiel, then another question - http://146.185.151.231/video.mp4 <- how could I possibly make that animation smoother? I tried rendering it at 25fps, tried moving it 0.24pixels/frame, but nothign really worked :-/
18:05.53Funkeh`I wonder if vp9 will be viable this time around
18:06.28Funkeh`fresh start, google can push manufacturers, etc
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18:42.14nevcairielznf: you cant really move less then one pixel, there will always be points where it just flips over to the next pixel
18:45.07znfdamn it
18:48.01znf(I really can't believe it took me that long to figure out how filters work)
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18:55.42Stanzillabtw Funkeh` brez has been failing pretty often lately
18:55.46Stanzillanot tracking rezes or going -1
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19:02.11sbstupid login servers
19:04.05Megalonyou are now forced to login to be stupid? poor sb
19:08.18Funkeh`on flex?
19:08.51StanzillaFunkeh`: no, normal and heroic
19:09.07Funkeh`it's been fine for me
19:09.26Funkeh`some specific res its not tracking?
19:09.42Stanzillait was druid I think
19:10.47Funkeh`dunno what would cause that, we have a few druids
19:10.55Funkeh`there haven't been any changes recently to my knowledge
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19:39.35Stanzillaöäü
20:21.51MegalonStanzilla getting all kinky with
20:24.11znfalpha channel in video is more tricky than I thought...
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21:28.51Gnarfozznf: you'd have to use motion blur to achieve a smoothly moving bar
21:29.04znfGnarfoz, that was my impression, too
21:29.05Gnarfoz(i.e. it couldn't be a bar with hard borders)
21:29.29znfbut my ffmpeg doesn't have support for -libcov something
22:22.50nevcairielgoogle now is really getting quite smart. I had a flight scheduled and it showed me not only the flight information, but also the weather at the lay-over and the destination
22:22.57nevcairieltoo bad it didnt notice i cancelled the flight
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22:31.30Stanzillawhere did you want to go
22:34.20GnarfozI'd have to start using gmail for everything if I wanted it to be ultra-creepy/awesome
22:39.01Stanzillahttp://i.imgur.com/80ZGSUp.gif
22:43.55znfI consider myself blessed with gmail
22:44.17nevcairielGnarfoz: and we europeans dont even get all the creepy google now features
22:44.26znfwhenever I see people using custom-made email systems I die a little :(
22:44.32nevcairielsupposedly USians have a lot more cards
22:46.07Gnarfozprobably because they have bigger distances for everything and thus trigger more of the travel stuff? dunno
22:46.20nevcairielnah, not trigger stuff, just more supported
22:47.15nevcairielalthough i occasionally see it telling me stuff that i never got before, so they may be expanding
22:47.49nevcairielon the other hand, google maps still sucks for public transport in hamburg (it doesn't know  subways or busses), so google now is useless for that
22:48.09nevcairielit always has me drive with the train to the airport and walk from there :P
22:48.53Gnarfozyou're a train driver?
22:49.12Megalonlokomotivführer nevcairiel
22:49.16Gnarfoz(derp :P it's "go by" for everything you're not steering)
22:49.51Megalonwhy would he go by the train
22:49.53Megalonhe should take it
22:49.58Megalonelse it's a really long walk :(
22:50.09GnarfozI did not say "go by the" =}
22:50.18Megalonhe could also go buy the train
22:50.28Megalonbut then he'd be again at driving it himself
22:50.31Gnarfozmaybe it's a model train
22:50.37Megalona modal train
22:50.41nevcairielI always forget to even buy a ticket
22:51.17Gnarfozyou should have Google Now remind you ;p
22:51.19nevcairielfor years work provided me with a year pass, that went away and i have to remember buying one
22:51.33nevcairielluckily i can buy one on the phone
22:58.29Gnarfozpffft lost against Stanzilla
22:59.17Stanzillashit happens
23:13.36znfI would like 5 minutes alone in the same room who came up with CPanel/WHM
23:13.42znfwith the guy*
23:16.56Megalonznf, you are really handing those blowjobs out lately
23:24.56znftouche, can't say anything
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