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| 00:59.41 | Stanzilla | yo znf |
| 00:59.46 | Stanzilla | a wait nvm |
| 00:59.50 | Stanzilla | you're an iphone guy |
| 01:00.01 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel Gnarfoz sb which twitter mobile client do you use? |
| 01:00.03 | znf | :( |
| 01:00.19 | znf | I used to use seeismic |
| 01:00.37 | znf | But the official one is good enough now |
| 01:03.51 | Stanzilla | znf: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.klinker.android.twitter say that again after you watched that vid |
| 01:08.17 | znf | Yeah baby, he finally banged Siobahn! |
| 01:09.08 | znf | #banshee |
| 01:21.34 | Stanzilla | znf: watch the vid! |
| 01:26.21 | znf | Pretty |
| 01:28.03 | znf | That's a bit more features that I'm looking for in a twitter client :) |
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| 04:39.08 | Repo | npcscan: 03SLOKnightfall 07master * 5.4.2.4 (6 files in 2 directories): [+4 commits] |
| 04:39.08 | Repo | fb47aae: -Added the ability to disable red screen flash on mob alert. (ticket 36) |
| 04:39.08 | Repo | 0efacc3: -Updated DB version check to only update custom NPC's and not completely reset the saved variables whenever the DB version increased |
| 04:39.08 | Repo | 69aa61a: -Changed alert sound setting from per character to account wide. -Changed default sound to standard hunter's horn sound -Renamed old default horn & drum sound to Classic NPCScan. |
| 04:39.08 | Repo | d6adee7: -Fixed Beast tab error (Ticket 45) |
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| 06:52.46 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: i dont use twitter |
| 06:54.45 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: ok |
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| 08:41.09 | sb | morning |
| 08:41.18 | sb | Stanzilla: falcon |
| 08:41.29 | wink | Stanzilla: I use the official one on android and it works well enough |
| 08:41.35 | wink | only one account though |
| 08:41.41 | sb | Stanzilla: http://getfalcon.pro/ |
| 08:42.01 | sb | or https://plus.google.com/communities/114345443048267259022 |
| 08:42.41 | sb | hm, you cant use that without token |
| 08:42.48 | sb | something about twitter api limits and stuff :| |
| 08:43.02 | sb | Stanzilla: http://www.androidpolice.com/tags/falcon-pro/ |
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| 08:53.39 | sb | nevcairiel, Stanzilla do you use your FB acc for quizduell or is the friendlist not facebook dependant? |
| 08:54.47 | Stanzilla | sb: I'm already using falcon but the one I linked looks better |
| 08:55.03 | sb | klinker thingy? |
| 08:55.05 | Stanzilla | sb: and I use the fb account |
| 08:55.05 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 08:55.28 | sb | well, i dont do that much twittering anymore, mostly reading |
| 08:55.49 | sb | whats special about talon? |
| 08:58.32 | Stanzilla | UI mostly |
| 08:58.36 | Stanzilla | it's really good |
| 08:59.17 | sb | Stanzilla: i think i added you on QD :D |
| 09:00.19 | wink | the official twitter is the first one that delivers notifications with only a minute of delay instead of 5 |
| 09:00.32 | sb | yes... :| |
| 09:00.45 | Stanzilla | sb: nope |
| 09:01.04 | sb | Stanzilla: ugh |
| 09:01.08 | sb | Stanzilla: whats your name? |
| 09:01.25 | sb | wink: offical twitter client is the only client with push :| blame twitter... |
| 09:01.33 | wink | hehe |
| 09:01.49 | wink | well it needs server capacity |
| 09:01.51 | wink | I suppose |
| 09:01.59 | wink | never looked into how it works on android |
| 09:03.41 | Stanzilla | sb: Stanzilla :D |
| 09:08.12 | sb | Stanzilla: added you :| |
| 09:08.20 | sb | only to friends list, no game |
| 09:08.42 | nevcairiel | friend list is one-sided |
| 09:08.51 | nevcairiel | and i dont use fb for QD since i dont have fb |
| 09:09.10 | sb | i see |
| 09:09.19 | sb | ok, added you, Gnarfoz, Stanzilla :D |
| 09:10.39 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 09:14.10 | sb | Stanzilla: do you have premium? :o |
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| 09:16.29 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 09:18.17 | sb | i see, ads are f... annying |
| 09:18.29 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 09:19.18 | nevcairiel | i have premium as well because of the damn ad after every question |
| 09:19.50 | sb | yep |
| 09:19.53 | sb | that |
| 09:19.58 | sb | *buy* |
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| 09:48.41 | sb | Stanzilla: ugh, addictive - playing with 2 coworkers now :| |
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| 09:58.14 | Workfoz | Stanzilla: official client |
| 09:58.48 | sb | that Workfoz |
| 09:58.52 | Workfoz | Stanzilla: there's still no workaround to the limitations imposed on 3rd party clients, I guess |
| 09:59.38 | quiescens | nerf workfoz |
| 10:04.57 | Workfoz | 18:52:39 <@nevcairiel> i should build google music all access support for $work, then there would be a proper desktop player :d <-- do eeet |
| 10:05.29 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: how does that USB DAC thing work? does Android support external audio devices? oO |
| 10:05.35 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 10:05.48 | nevcairiel | certain devices at least, apparently it doesnt work on all of them |
| 10:05.57 | nevcairiel | need a phone with a host-mode usb port |
| 10:07.17 | sb | yes, desktop player! |
| 10:07.46 | sb | but swayfm + prime player isnt that bad |
| 10:08.05 | nevcairiel | anything that requires me remembering to keep my browser open is annoying |
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| 10:19.16 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: could put it in a separate window so you don't close it when all your regular tabs are gone? |
| 10:19.24 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: which one do you use? (DAC) |
| 10:20.31 | Workfoz | sb: sadly, Chrome's audio playback starts to stutter and crackle really bad when my work computer is under load (read: all the time, because it's shit), so I'm using Google Music in Firefox :| |
| 10:20.47 | sb | Workfoz: ugh |
| 10:20.55 | nevcairiel | Workfoz: audioquest dragonfly |
| 10:21.52 | Workfoz | sb: either start a game yourself, or tell me your quizduell name :D |
| 10:21.53 | sb | whats the deal with USB + android Workfoz? dont get the connection here :D |
| 10:22.00 | sb | Workfoz: i has work! :D |
| 10:22.11 | Workfoz | sb: scroll up, it's something nev said |
| 10:22.11 | sb | but, 1 sec |
| 10:22.41 | Workfoz | (yesterday, actually) |
| 10:22.52 | sb | i see, how do you connect USB to your phone? |
| 10:23.05 | nevcairiel | most phones have a usb port :p |
| 10:23.07 | quiescens | usb cable |
| 10:23.21 | quiescens | gives nev a cookie |
| 10:23.46 | nevcairiel | now that you mention it, i havent used it for a week and i wonder where my micro usb adapter went |
| 10:24.22 | sb | Workfoz: done, started |
| 10:26.43 | sb | ugh, still need to do zeiterfassung for last week |
| 10:28.10 | Workfoz | good thing we have rfid thingies for that |
| 10:29.32 | nevcairiel | i always hated that part at work, you had to swipe your card when you got in of course, and that was no problem, but the real problem was booking your actual worked hours onto the projects <.< |
| 10:30.00 | sb | yes |
| 10:30.07 | sb | we dont have any accounting at all |
| 10:30.23 | sb | the "how long" part isnt that hard (came in at 9, left at 17:30, fine) |
| 10:30.31 | sb | but finding projects... *sigh* |
| 10:31.15 | Workfoz | good thing I don't usually have to do that |
| 10:31.51 | nevcairiel | you seem to mostly deal with operations, they never had to do that either |
| 10:31.52 | Workfoz | Stanzilla: how is it that a) your Nazgrim kill is almost twice as fast as ours and b) that you still have no rankings, but we do? |
| 10:33.43 | Workfoz | http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/z7fcrYpwnatPqg2V#type=damage&fight=32 vs. http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qZLzQTxmPYAtXwCB/#fight=27&type=damage that is |
| 10:33.52 | wink | there were times I had to do it three times |
| 10:33.53 | Workfoz | can't you be ranked on personal reports or something? |
| 10:33.55 | wink | a) for customer |
| 10:33.57 | wink | b) for company |
| 10:34.07 | wink | c) for myself, because b) was broken |
| 10:34.22 | Workfoz | :D |
| 10:39.43 | sb | Workfoz: i suck at history :D |
| 10:41.56 | Workfoz | lol |
| 10:41.59 | Workfoz | "Remember that digital audio is stored on computers and delivered to DragonFly as streams of 1’s and 0’s. Making beautiful music out of 1’s and 0’s isn’t a case of simply getting all the music data from point A to Point B. Maintaining subtle digital timing relationships is crucial in order to be able to reconstruct the analog waveform that we hear |
| 10:41.59 | Workfoz | as dialog or music." |
| 10:42.15 | Workfoz | yeah right, that totally doesn't sound like the $599 HDMI cable bullshit |
| 10:50.44 | nevcairiel | actually timing is rather important for a usb dac |
| 10:51.26 | nevcairiel | although that really only depends on two things; your PC not being too busy to send audio, and the DAC not being stupid |
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| 10:55.57 | nevcairiel | the problem is that you cant build big caches into such a DAC because you want to keep the latency way down, so it has to get the audio exactly when it needs it |
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| 11:14.47 | haste | suddenly, jitter |
| 11:39.04 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: IDGI - if the computer is too crappy to send the audio data without interruptions, I'll have dropouts no matter what; I doubt it's ever going to be "too busy" to send the audio data *in order*? |
| 11:40.18 | Workfoz | (and how does anything their device or drivers to have any power over that? :| does the data have some kind of monotonically increasing counter associated with it so they can piece it together in the right order? if so, wouldn't everybody be doing that? :D) |
| 11:40.27 | Workfoz | still sounds like mumbo-jumbo to me |
| 11:40.31 | nevcairiel | well, the difference here is that its async DAC, which means it will determine when it needs new data and your PC needs to be ready to send it immediately, while many other systems work the other way around, the PC determines when to send audio, so it can be a bit more sensitive |
| 11:41.35 | nevcairiel | and i dont know where you got the idea that it can be out of order at all :) |
| 11:42.04 | Workfoz | because they use "asynchronous" in their mumbo-jumbo |
| 11:42.27 | nevcairiel | that doesnt mean out of order :d |
| 11:42.35 | Workfoz | what does it mean, then? |
| 11:42.49 | nevcairiel | that it runs on its own clock, and not the PC clock |
| 11:43.07 | Workfoz | they use it in relation to how they transfer audio data |
| 11:43.35 | Workfoz | not with "we use our own clocks so our resampling doesn't suck" bit |
| 11:43.39 | Workfoz | +their |
| 11:44.01 | Workfoz | mhhh, it's snowing |
| 11:45.11 | nevcairiel | thats the downside of async, since the PC still runs on its own clock, you need to rely on the PC having data ready to deliver when the device needs it, not when the PC has it ready, basically the device polls for data, instead of the PC always pushing it, and this poll requests need to be answered with no delay |
| 11:45.33 | Workfoz | that sounds like they made it worse? |
| 11:45.42 | nevcairiel | async has other significant advantages |
| 11:45.53 | nevcairiel | and most PCs can manage to send the data when needed |
| 11:45.58 | nevcairiel | as long as they are not under high load |
| 11:47.04 | Workfoz | I wonder what qualifies as "high enough load", then - even at 100% on all 8 cores, I've never had audio dropouts |
| 11:47.11 | nevcairiel | the big problem is that PCs dont have very stable clocks |
| 11:47.14 | Workfoz | (probably because it's a shit-easy job) |
| 11:47.26 | nevcairiel | and in synchronous mode, the DAC would use the PCs clock |
| 11:47.51 | nevcairiel | but that can degrade audio quality, because a precise clock is very important |
| 11:48.19 | Workfoz | I still don't understand how it can degrade anything |
| 11:48.32 | Workfoz | wouldn't that be immediately obvious |
| 11:49.32 | nevcairiel | a DAC goes into analog world, its not 1/0 anymore, and timing problems because of a bad master clock in the DAC arent black or white, its a whole domain of analog audio distortions |
| 11:51.15 | Workfoz | I feel like I need to take a course in either digital audio processing or in mumbo-jumbo |
| 11:51.16 | Workfoz | :D |
| 11:51.28 | Workfoz | but first, I gotta go grab something to eat... out into the snow :| |
| 11:51.45 | nevcairiel | we only have snow on the ground, no new one coming in today at least |
| 11:52.05 | Workfoz | it's snowing right now :o first time this "winter" ^^ |
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| 12:13.11 | EthanCentaurai | morning all o/ |
| 12:17.26 | Repo | handynotes_lunarfestival: 03ethancentaurai 04v1.1.5 * 9685646 /: [new tag] |
| 12:19.27 | Timmeh | .o/ |
| 12:24.10 | Megalon | hey there little hitlers |
| 12:25.11 | wink | you seem to confuse left and right |
| 12:27.35 | EthanCentaurai | o7 |
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| 13:01.46 | sb | Gnarfoz: i failed at diablo |
| 13:01.49 | sb | *head -> wall* |
| 13:02.20 | sb | UGH |
| 13:02.24 | sb | evel worse |
| 13:02.27 | sb | evem |
| 13:02.28 | sb | even :| |
| 13:05.44 | Megalon | not only at diablo it seems |
| 13:06.59 | sb | Megalon: go & hide your cave :/ |
| 13:09.37 | Workfoz | sb: I failed at something I knew, too, screen was all snowy & wet and my touch registered in the wrong place ;D |
| 13:09.52 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:14.25 | Megalon | well hun you were all wet and my touch just registered in the wrong place |
| 13:30.12 | znf | It snowed. Heavily. |
| 13:30.26 | sb | pics or didnt happen |
| 13:30.38 | sb | oh, wait, do you have a smartphone with camera? :p |
| 13:37.51 | znf | http://imgur.com/OtQ27FE |
| 13:56.42 | wink | http://imgur.com/gallery/4NPtxDk |
| 13:56.44 | wink | awesome |
| 13:56.54 | wink | much better recommendations than yt |
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| 14:23.10 | Workfoz | wink: what u talking about? :O |
| 14:25.35 | wink | imgur link -> right side has stuff |
| 14:25.43 | wink | and it was actually funny |
| 14:25.54 | wink | unlike youtube, which only has crap on the right side, ever |
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| 14:37.37 | EthanCentaurai | I broke Repo :( |
| 14:37.44 | EthanCentaurai | I need to stop doing that |
| 14:51.28 | Torhal | EthanCentaurai: Nah, lost net access for a blip is all. |
| 14:52.17 | EthanCentaurai | phew |
| 14:54.54 | wink | ANGRYORC @AngryOrc1 |
| 14:54.54 | wink | WHEN YOU THINK YOU ARE HAVING A CRAPPY MONDAY REMEMBER, SOMEWHERE, RIGHT NOW, SOMEONE IS A LVL 17 GNOME HOPELESSLY LOST IN WAILING CAVERNS. |
| 14:55.13 | nevcairiel | why you screaming |
| 14:55.23 | Torhal | nevcairiel: We wouldn't understand winking. |
| 14:57.12 | EthanCentaurai | ANGRYORC USES ALL CAPS SO SILLY CHILDREN CAN READ BETTER. |
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| 15:03.07 | Funkeh` | Does OSX need to go through every OS update or can you go from 10.old to 10.9 for free |
| 15:08.38 | EthanCentaurai | I assume straight to 10.9? |
| 15:08.42 | EthanCentaurai | I did |
| 15:08.52 | EthanCentaurai | then again, I had 10.8 previous :P |
| 15:09.13 | nevcairiel | very helpful, EthanCentaurai |
| 15:09.13 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 15:09.22 | EthanCentaurai | I know, right? :D |
| 15:09.57 | EthanCentaurai | I dunno |
| 15:10.00 | EthanCentaurai | try it an see |
| 15:10.07 | EthanCentaurai | s/an/and/ |
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| 15:14.37 | Repo | dad6a0b: Update addon description. |
| 15:14.37 | Repo | bd3c66a: Minor cleanups and add a note. |
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| 15:33.26 | quiescens | moo? |
| 15:48.16 | EthanCentaurai | miaow |
| 15:49.55 | quiescens | go to sleep o.o |
| 16:03.12 | Workfoz | pretty neat |
| 16:03.12 | Workfoz | http://www.warcraftlogs.com/help/pins |
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| 16:45.25 | znf | man, WL is going to blow WoL out of the water, badly |
| 16:46.03 | nevcairiel | and in 2 years there will be yet another page, so whats new |
| 16:46.24 | nevcairiel | also, they want to be abbreviated WCL |
| 16:46.36 | znf | good for them, I'll still call it WL |
| 16:46.56 | znf | they don't get to dictate how people abbreviate their service :P |
| 16:47.26 | Megalon | if they want to be abbreviated wcl then maybe they should have used 3 words in their name |
| 16:47.35 | Megalon | WarcraftCocksuckerLogs for example |
| 16:47.36 | znf | war-craft-logs :P |
| 16:47.38 | nevcairiel | you dont call Warcraft hzst W |
| 16:47.42 | nevcairiel | just* |
| 16:48.01 | znf | nevcairiel, that's arguable |
| 16:48.03 | Megalon | how do you abbreviated world of warcraft, mr nevcairiel |
| 16:48.05 | znf | we call World of WarCraft WoW |
| 16:48.06 | znf | :> |
| 16:48.10 | znf | now WoWC |
| 16:48.14 | znf | not |
| 16:48.16 | Megalon | the strategy games are WC |
| 16:48.17 | nevcairiel | WL is for me warlock, so confusion ensues |
| 16:48.24 | znf | "lock" is warlock :P |
| 16:48.28 | nevcairiel | WL is shorter |
| 16:48.38 | znf | nobody I know calls a warlock "WL" |
| 16:49.02 | nevcairiel | you're a liar |
| 16:49.11 | znf | I don't know you! |
| 16:49.12 | Megalon | germans call them wl |
| 16:49.17 | znf | germans are weird |
| 16:49.23 | Megalon | says the gypsy |
| 16:49.36 | znf | not my fault hitler didn't kill enough of them! |
| 16:49.53 | Megalon | time for 2.0 |
| 16:50.08 | nevcairiel | we're blaming hitlers ineffiency now for your existence? |
| 16:50.25 | Megalon | perhaps he just went full retard |
| 16:50.35 | nevcairiel | that happend long ago |
| 17:04.07 | znf | Stanzilla, http://i.imgur.com/mTBEiNn.jpg |
| 17:05.47 | znf | Oh, feel free to add to this: http://www.reddit.com/r/WowUI/comments/1w9pld/whats_with_the_hate_for_xperl/ |
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| 17:46.41 | Stanzilla | Workfoz: our dps was quite insane that day |
| 17:47.32 | Stanzilla | znf: what do I see there apart from a clone of muqq's unitframes? |
| 17:48.26 | znf | An ugly UI |
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| 17:51.47 | Stanzilla | not that bad imo |
| 17:53.18 | Stanzilla | http://www.nvidia.de/download/driverResults.aspx/72619 nevcairiel Fisker |
| 17:57.09 | Stanzilla | it will be very interesting how fast microsoft can change the skydrive branding across their products |
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| 17:58.31 | Fisker | wut Stanzilla? |
| 17:58.48 | Stanzilla | Fisker: wut to wat, new driver |
| 18:00.10 | Megalon | u wut m8? |
| 18:00.56 | sb | Stanzilla: i wants 380k :/ |
| 18:01.06 | Fisker | u w0t m8 |
| 18:01.10 | Fisker | skydrive branding Stanzilla |
| 18:01.45 | Stanzilla | sb: why |
| 18:01.49 | Stanzilla | Fisker: it's onedrive now |
| 18:02.12 | Fisker | That's two bad |
| 18:02.14 | Fisker | wtf |
| 18:02.16 | Fisker | too bad* |
| 18:02.30 | Megalon | should have called it candydrive |
| 18:03.11 | sb | Stanzilla: no idea, because i did ~300k this week!? |
| 18:03.30 | sb | okay, 7min fight - more defstance "waiting" |
| 18:03.34 | Stanzilla | sb: oh you are talking about dmg |
| 18:03.37 | Stanzilla | I thought gold |
| 18:03.55 | Stanzilla | we totally raped that boss this ID |
| 18:03.58 | sb | nah, i dont have gold, but it doesnt matter :D could pay znf to farm gold |
| 18:04.13 | Stanzilla | warlock did 20mil at the start because of ember overflow from adds |
| 18:04.21 | sb | ah |
| 18:04.26 | sb | you are doing adds + boss |
| 18:04.35 | Stanzilla | I also had 2m dps but only because of adds |
| 18:04.45 | Stanzilla | yes ofc, everything else is stupid :D |
| 18:04.46 | sb | we usually reset the boss before starting the fight |
| 18:04.51 | Stanzilla | why? |
| 18:05.09 | sb | inflates dps numbers :D nah, tbh i have no idea, it started and now its done every time |
| 18:05.41 | Stanzilla | well if you have a warlock it's a huge dps plus |
| 18:05.48 | Fisker | onedrive is kind of a dumb name |
| 18:05.50 | Stanzilla | and not inflated dps, real dps |
| 18:05.55 | znf | Fuckin' warlocks :( |
| 18:06.41 | Stanzilla | indeed |
| 18:06.51 | Stanzilla | I love my warlock though |
| 18:06.59 | *** join/#wowace frankbutt (~frankbutt@66.172.11.32) |
| 18:07.04 | *** part/#wowace frankbutt (~frankbutt@66.172.11.32) |
| 18:07.07 | Stanzilla | really fun to play now that I have more gear |
| 18:07.32 | znf | And troll being master race now is annoying :( |
| 18:09.17 | Stanzilla | been that way for ages |
| 18:09.24 | znf | Not this bad... |
| 18:09.46 | znf | In 5.2 I was still dominating the trolls in the raid |
| 18:10.00 | znf | Now... I have no chance |
| 18:11.14 | Stanzilla | well on horridon etc trolls were extra op |
| 18:11.17 | Stanzilla | because of 2nd racial |
| 18:11.44 | znf | Yeah, but I was still keeping up and event beating my fellow spriest there |
| 18:12.01 | Stanzilla | maybe he is bad |
| 18:12.11 | znf | Now he bursts 2mil without issues |
| 18:12.23 | Stanzilla | also you had less pc problems back then |
| 18:12.27 | Stanzilla | I guess |
| 18:12.28 | znf | Can't keep up with him on any fight |
| 18:12.57 | znf | That damn trinket... |
| 18:14.27 | znf | I hope they do something about racials in wod |
| 18:14.40 | Stanzilla | they already said they would |
| 18:14.45 | Stanzilla | and there was a leaked list of changes |
| 18:14.53 | znf | Uh? Where? |
| 18:14.58 | Stanzilla | the internet |
| 18:15.01 | znf | ... |
| 18:15.05 | znf | Link! |
| 18:15.07 | Stanzilla | mmo-c forum :D |
| 18:15.10 | Stanzilla | I dont have it anymore |
| 18:15.13 | Stanzilla | was ages ago |
| 18:15.14 | Stanzilla | go google |
| 18:15.15 | znf | Link! I'm mobile |
| 18:15.27 | Stanzilla | mobile has google, too! |
| 18:15.46 | znf | I have a small screen! |
| 18:16.04 | Stanzilla | I don't care! |
| 18:16.11 | znf | Meanie :( |
| 18:16.22 | znf | They should just remove racials! |
| 18:16.53 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 18:16.59 | Stanzilla | wanna keep my rep bonus |
| 18:17.00 | znf | Yes! |
| 18:17.17 | Megalon | http://i.imgur.com/a225BWY.png |
| 18:17.25 | znf | Just remove combat benefits |
| 18:17.56 | znf | Keep professions and other shit |
| 18:18.09 | znf | Also give back 15%dmg reduction on shadow form :( |
| 18:18.33 | Megalon | lots of wants you have |
| 18:19.02 | nevcairiel | they'll mess with those that gave hit first, and then rebalance them again. they said horde had too strong raid bonus, and they wanted to look into that |
| 18:19.36 | znf | Oh yeah baby, will of the forsaken change! |
| 18:19.42 | znf | Such improvement |
| 18:19.55 | Stanzilla | that night elf thingy is so stupid :D |
| 18:20.06 | Stanzilla | wonder how came up with that, even if the list might be fake |
| 18:20.13 | Stanzilla | *who |
| 18:20.21 | nevcairiel | its a kinda nice play on the night elf lore tbh |
| 18:20.28 | znf | That sounds retarded :P |
| 18:20.37 | Stanzilla | "guise wait, we can't pull at night, I do more dps at day" |
| 18:20.51 | nevcairiel | when is wow night anyway |
| 18:21.04 | Stanzilla | nobody can tell after they fucked up nights |
| 18:21.09 | znf | Fake and gay |
| 18:21.09 | Stanzilla | doesnt get dark anymore really |
| 18:21.31 | nevcairiel | can always turn on the minimap icon |
| 18:21.39 | nevcairiel | apparently it trys to match the real world a bit |
| 18:21.59 | nevcairiel | hm guess the minimap icon went byebye when the calendar came |
| 18:22.04 | nevcairiel | always had it hidden anyway |
| 18:22.06 | nevcairiel | oh well |
| 18:22.12 | Stanzilla | I was about to say that |
| 18:23.01 | nevcairiel | but its true, i cant say i ever noticed in pandaria when it was night |
| 18:23.15 | znf | Yeah... |
| 18:24.29 | znf | Do elfs still have that shadowmeld? |
| 18:24.39 | znf | That works during night? |
| 18:25.02 | nevcairiel | shadowmeld works any time of day |
| 18:25.04 | Stanzilla | works at any time |
| 18:25.20 | nevcairiel | and has worked any time as long as i can remember |
| 18:26.32 | znf | Oh? It did? I was remembering it working during nights only |
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| 18:28.21 | Stanzilla | it hat a flavour text that suggested something like that |
| 18:28.24 | Stanzilla | but never worked that way |
| 18:28.46 | znf | Ah. |
| 18:29.01 | znf | The first char I ever made was la night elf in US |
| 18:29.04 | znf | On |
| 18:30.20 | Stanzilla | yeah my first char was a NE, too |
| 18:30.43 | Stanzilla | 8 years ago when Dessa convinced me to play! |
| 18:30.46 | nevcairiel | my first char was a NE druid in US beta, first char on live US is still my main today :d |
| 18:30.57 | nevcairiel | live EU* |
| 18:31.02 | znf | Same |
| 18:31.22 | znf | But i started playing in 2.3 or something like that |
| 18:33.50 | Stanzilla | I think I did after AQ releae |
| 18:33.52 | Stanzilla | *s |
| 18:34.43 | nevcairiel | i started on release day, with some guys from browsergames before |
| 18:34.53 | Megalon | release day eu :o |
| 18:35.02 | Megalon | tuaren druid of course |
| 18:35.17 | jnwhiteh | open beta us |
| 18:35.19 | znf | I should have started a warlock... |
| 18:35.22 | jnwhiteh | ne rogue |
| 18:35.29 | jnwhiteh | so long ago. |
| 18:35.50 | Megalon | the times when 99% of the talents were useless shit |
| 18:35.53 | znf | Now I'm too lazy to change mains |
| 18:36.08 | jnwhiteh | I had no choice. When I moved to Europe =( |
| 18:36.13 | znf | I'd rather switch to playing Wildstar |
| 18:36.20 | jnwhiteh | I could not keep playing on servers that were basically emptyu |
| 18:36.50 | jnwhiteh | the great wall of France that prevents Blizzard from having reasonable region restrictions make baby cladhaire cry =( |
| 18:37.17 | znf | What is that? |
| 18:37.31 | jnwhiteh | i dont know |
| 18:37.40 | jnwhiteh | whatever prevents me from talking to my brother on battle.net while playing heartstone |
| 18:37.43 | jnwhiteh | and makes it |
| 18:37.55 | jnwhiteh | impossible to transfer a character/account from U.S. to E.U. or vice versa. |
| 18:38.13 | jnwhiteh | french is my guess because they're french, and that's where their European base is :P |
| 18:38.19 | Stanzilla | probably too expensive to carry the heavy datas that far |
| 18:38.43 | znf | They be lazy, mon |
| 18:39.01 | Megalon | character movemtn is done by printing it out, bit by bit, mailing it to the other server |
| 18:39.05 | Megalon | and typing it in by hand |
| 18:39.17 | Stanzilla | that's what the price suggests, really |
| 18:41.15 | znf | Pfft, please, it acts as a deterrence |
| 18:41.28 | znf | So people don't migrate in flocks! /s |
| 18:42.55 | nevcairiel | the infrastructure is seperate, and they probably just dont see the use-case to be worth spending developer time on |
| 18:43.08 | nevcairiel | how many people would really do it |
| 18:43.16 | nevcairiel | seems like a bit of a corner case to want to move region |
| 18:43.51 | znf | Not many, seeing you have to buy the game over and again |
| 18:44.19 | nevcairiel | well they could migrate the license and anything that is linked to it in the process |
| 18:47.25 | znf | Just make it global play :P |
| 18:48.36 | znf | I'm really curious if Wildstar will be any good |
| 18:49.18 | Stanzilla | it's ok but not as good as I thought |
| 18:49.24 | Stanzilla | but I didnt play much |
| 18:49.28 | Stanzilla | only like 10 levels so far |
| 18:49.42 | Stanzilla | wanted to try the combat system etc |
| 18:50.32 | znf | You got beta? :(( |
| 18:50.40 | znf | I want beta! |
| 18:50.54 | znf | But probably my PC will crap its pants :( |
| 18:51.04 | nevcairiel | your PC already craps its pants |
| 18:51.25 | nevcairiel | you should buy a new one before the addon comes |
| 18:51.49 | znf | No money, no job |
| 18:52.27 | Megalon | so gypsy :( |
| 18:52.37 | znf | Yes... |
| 18:52.50 | znf | Except I don't steal scrap iron |
| 18:53.06 | Megalon | just wanted to ask if i should send you some :( |
| 18:53.12 | Megalon | or some old tires |
| 18:53.51 | znf | Send money, kthx |
| 18:54.06 | znf | I'll take spare pc parts, too ^^ |
| 18:55.47 | nevcairiel | i just build a test system out of a spare i7 2600k and other asorted parts i had around, not to mention the 680 gtx thats still on the shelve |
| 18:55.59 | nevcairiel | points and laughs at znf |
| 18:56.20 | znf | You go away |
| 18:56.52 | znf | Silly high income germans... |
| 18:57.22 | nevcairiel | i'm just too lazy to sell my old hardware when i'm done using it |
| 18:58.00 | znf | I see... |
| 18:59.11 | znf | I really should have upgraded when I had the money... |
| 19:03.49 | znf | But back then there were only old i7's :P |
| 19:04.10 | nevcairiel | and now you have none |
| 19:04.19 | znf | Yup... |
| 19:05.14 | znf | But now I don't have 400eur to spare for new parts :) |
| 19:06.32 | Stanzilla | save some more |
| 19:06.38 | Stanzilla | also where is my chrome dev update |
| 19:07.23 | nevcairiel | the pipes are clogged |
| 19:07.51 | Stanzilla | kind expecting one today or tomorrow |
| 19:07.59 | Stanzilla | they already pushed ios and stable today |
| 19:08.20 | znf | I did have saved up... But then I had to get another car :) |
| 19:08.34 | nevcairiel | cars are overrated |
| 19:08.41 | znf | And to save up, again, would require a job |
| 19:08.54 | Stanzilla | http://dogeweather.com/ |
| 19:08.58 | Stanzilla | znf: get a job then |
| 19:09.03 | znf | Yeah, they are, when there's decent transportation systems |
| 19:09.26 | znf | If only I would live in an area where I could get a job... |
| 19:09.32 | nevcairiel | move |
| 19:09.47 | znf | That also requires money :) |
| 19:10.48 | Stanzilla | live under a bridge for a week |
| 19:11.06 | znf | They're all occupied! |
| 19:11.23 | Stanzilla | trash can then |
| 19:11.29 | znf | A week, lol |
| 19:11.58 | znf | You live under the impression that I would earn rent money in a week? ;P |
| 19:12.25 | nevcairiel | a month then |
| 19:12.29 | nevcairiel | you get paid after a month |
| 19:12.51 | znf | Yeah, but most owners ask for 3 months advance rent |
| 19:13.16 | nevcairiel | sleep in the car |
| 19:13.20 | Stanzilla | hostel |
| 19:14.02 | znf | I don't event think there are hostels in Bucharest |
| 19:15.01 | Megalon | sell body, acquire money |
| 19:15.14 | nevcairiel | bucharest has apparently 82 hostels |
| 19:15.23 | znf | I haven't figured out a way out yet, which is why I'm in this shitty situation |
| 19:15.31 | nevcairiel | at least which are indexed on this website |
| 19:15.53 | Stanzilla | what about family? |
| 19:15.55 | Megalon | nev will get you job in holy de-land |
| 19:16.04 | nevcairiel | i dont even have a job in de-land! |
| 19:16.14 | nevcairiel | not that i would want one |
| 19:16.48 | Megalon | then in whatever-land-nev-is-in-land |
| 19:16.55 | znf | What about family? |
| 19:19.10 | nevcairiel | get teh help from teh family |
| 19:19.28 | znf | They're not in position to help |
| 19:19.45 | nevcairiel | steal some scrap iron then |
| 19:19.47 | Stanzilla | you could live there or so |
| 19:19.58 | Stanzilla | or sell their kidneys |
| 19:20.08 | znf | Uhm, I don't have family in Bucharest :) |
| 19:20.39 | znf | Would be easy if I had |
| 19:20.50 | Stanzilla | urmagurt https://twitter.com/SteamDB/status/427883028681981952/photo/1 |
| 19:22.14 | Stanzilla | nice round nevcairiel |
| 19:22.22 | Stanzilla | did you guess dolly busters name or knew it? |
| 19:22.23 | nevcairiel | too bad you got a few points |
| 19:23.06 | nevcairiel | knew it actually :d |
| 19:23.44 | Stanzilla | haha |
| 19:23.49 | nevcairiel | i wonder if i'll ever have a 18 points game |
| 19:24.13 | nevcairiel | if i play long enough i may know all questions by heart |
| 19:24.19 | nevcairiel | they repeat occasionally |
| 19:24.31 | nevcairiel | didnt have many repeats yet, but sometimes |
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| 19:36.11 | MysticalOS | yay, oqueue did SOMETHING useful. |
| 19:36.21 | nevcairiel | die? |
| 19:36.29 | MysticalOS | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/291399-547-changes-to-battlenet-chat/ |
| 19:36.46 | Torhal | Mwahahahahahaha. |
| 19:36.50 | nevcairiel | oh addon comm for bnet chat |
| 19:36.53 | MysticalOS | yes |
| 19:37.04 | nevcairiel | finally no OQ spam anymore! |
| 19:37.21 | MysticalOS | and a throttle for non addon coms to ensure oqueue updates too |
| 19:37.28 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 19:37.44 | Torhal | Hawtness. |
| 19:38.25 | nevcairiel | Speaking of oQueue, i still hope blizzard doesnt mess their replacement up |
| 19:39.26 | nevcairiel | they spoke so extremely highly of it |
| 19:39.41 | Torhal | Path of the Titans II |
| 19:40.49 | MysticalOS | dance studio |
| 19:40.58 | nevcairiel | who the fuck needs a dance studio |
| 19:41.11 | nevcairiel | i never got that |
| 19:41.18 | MysticalOS | same people who care about transmog probably. people apparently care what their character looks like |
| 19:41.38 | nevcairiel | i like transmog, the SoO items are all fucking ugly |
| 19:41.42 | nevcairiel | but really, dance studio |
| 19:42.22 | MysticalOS | i don't care if i have 10 different mismatching items. in fact, i should make a point to find the most mismatching gear imaginable, and ' it that way |
| 19:42.45 | nevcairiel | I just couldnt stand the bright feathers of the druid shoulders anymore |
| 19:45.00 | nevcairiel | I usually wore the items proudly, no matter how silly a tier set looked, but this time... |
| 19:45.22 | nevcairiel | so i ventured to find an actually good looking set, and the only one i really actually liked is the tier 0 o.o |
| 19:45.58 | nevcairiel | or the naxxramas set, forgot which tier the second 'ramas was again |
| 19:46.40 | MysticalOS | 7 was nax 2.0 |
| 19:48.25 | Stanzilla | In patch 5.4.7, BattleTag™ or Real ID friends will only be able to send 10 chat messages every 10 seconds over Battle.net® chat. |
| 19:48.29 | Stanzilla | oh |
| 19:48.31 | Stanzilla | wrong window |
| 19:51.06 | Ressy | essential throttle of spam friend requests? |
| 19:51.29 | nevcairiel | who knows what they are really targeting |
| 19:52.09 | Stanzilla | oqueue |
| 19:52.25 | Stanzilla | the problem is with other blizz games though |
| 19:52.35 | Stanzilla | you can't filter the spam in d3 etc |
| 19:52.57 | nevcairiel | same spam a WoW player gets if he doesnt have the addon installed |
| 19:53.21 | Stanzilla | but in wow you can filter it |
| 19:53.39 | Stanzilla | and you don't get teh spam when you dont have (OQ) in your real id broadcast |
| 19:53.44 | Stanzilla | so people without the addon don't get it |
| 19:53.48 | nevcairiel | I'm not convinced its really just for that |
| 19:55.14 | MysticalOS | i think it is |
| 19:55.20 | MysticalOS | the throttle is to force the mod to update |
| 19:55.28 | MysticalOS | it will break and need to update to apis |
| 19:55.43 | MysticalOS | the spam is very bad in hearthstone, d3 and sc2 |
| 19:55.47 | nevcairiel | their primary goal might be to throttle something else, like actual spam |
| 19:55.50 | MysticalOS | they already filter it in wow |
| 19:56.02 | MysticalOS | nothing else really spams realid. |
| 19:56.55 | MysticalOS | although a throttle may be important for BDA's chat feature that's supposed to be first quarter 2014 |
| 19:57.10 | MysticalOS | (although it was also supposed to be may 2013, then aug, then sept, then december too) |
| 19:57.25 | nevcairiel | rumor has it that it may come with d3x1 |
| 19:59.02 | Stanzilla | I like the new error msges WoW got with this ptr |
| 19:59.06 | Stanzilla | for people with ass old pcs |
| 19:59.07 | Ressy | oh? |
| 19:59.35 | nevcairiel | SHADERMODEL_UNSUPPORTED ? |
| 20:00.10 | *** join/#wowace VTLob (~VTLob@178-24-33-120-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 20:00.25 | nevcairiel | guess there is a few more as well |
| 20:00.34 | nevcairiel | they might drop support for *extremely* crappy hardware |
| 20:00.35 | Stanzilla | DEVICE_BLACKLISTED - Your video device is not compatiple. Plese see http://enUS.nydus.battle.net/WoW/enU...eo-unsupported for more information. |
| 20:00.36 | Stanzilla | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:00.38 | Stanzilla | and some more |
| 20:00.51 | Ressy | I'm upset they're planning on blacklisting specific driver revisions. |
| 20:00.57 | MysticalOS | i don't think they are really changing what PCs can run wow properly right now though. probably removing the shadder hack that lets older PCs TRY to run wow (VERY POORLY) with corrupt graphics like some old Intel GMAs use |
| 20:01.07 | MysticalOS | far as I know they aren't updating to new shaders |
| 20:01.11 | Ressy | as I'm on a really old nvidia driver version, which I know is good, and the subsequent driver revisions have been total SHIT |
| 20:01.12 | MysticalOS | then what are used now |
| 20:01.13 | nevcairiel | yeah they'll just require proper hardware shaders |
| 20:01.38 | nevcairiel | the software shaders on ass-old GPUs work for crap |
| 20:01.43 | Stanzilla | Ressy: ever reported the problem you are having with the new ones? |
| 20:01.57 | MysticalOS | nvidia drivers on OS X have been utter shit. each update is a regression |
| 20:02.03 | Ressy | I've spoken with the Nvidia devs before. They don't like me much. |
| 20:02.12 | MysticalOS | current driver has power management issues with vid card speedstepping |
| 20:02.26 | Stanzilla | the forum guys are usually pretty cool |
| 20:02.32 | MysticalOS | causes nvidia channel timeouts and app crashes sometimes when card fails to power up or down between idle and hard usage state |
| 20:02.35 | Stanzilla | MysticalOS: where do you even get os x nvidia drivers? |
| 20:02.37 | nevcairiel | on windows they fixed a regression recently, which was present since 314 drivers or something |
| 20:02.39 | Ressy | Yeah.. Forum guys escalated me to someone else. |
| 20:02.40 | MysticalOS | built into OS |
| 20:02.42 | MysticalOS | which is problem |
| 20:02.47 | MysticalOS | we don't have a downgrade option |
| 20:02.54 | nevcairiel | Apple is your problem :d |
| 20:02.56 | Stanzilla | Ressy: what nevcairiel said btw, might wanna try a recent one now |
| 20:02.58 | Ressy | and that someone else totally blew off my issue.. at which point I got ticked. |
| 20:04.05 | wink | I used to be able to play wow on my 2004 notebook |
| 20:04.10 | wink | with a rage mobility |
| 20:04.15 | wink | that was so awesome for farming :( |
| 20:04.17 | wink | or AH |
| 20:04.53 | nevcairiel | i used to be able to play wow on my age old laptop of which i dont even know when i got it |
| 20:05.03 | nevcairiel | had an age old intel gma in it |
| 20:05.07 | Stanzilla | MysticalOS: why are you even trying to game on os x? |
| 20:05.10 | nevcairiel | in classic it was even playable |
| 20:05.16 | nevcairiel | hell, i raided MC on the thing |
| 20:05.31 | MysticalOS | to be honest, wow runs better for me on OS X than windows 7, strangely enough |
| 20:05.35 | nevcairiel | (while i was in the military and not at home :p) |
| 20:05.49 | nevcairiel | must've gotten it around 2004/2005 or so |
| 20:06.04 | MysticalOS | on windows 7 the client is less effective at allocating in and out of vram and it results in more camera turn stutter |
| 20:06.27 | Stanzilla | I don't know what you do to your windows but I don't have that problem here |
| 20:06.33 | Stanzilla | and your PC is probably better than mine |
| 20:06.37 | MysticalOS | mac client force allocates 80% of system vram |
| 20:06.44 | MysticalOS | well i do run ultra everything |
| 20:06.49 | nevcairiel | camera movements got better when i seriously boosted the texture memory cvar |
| 20:07.11 | MysticalOS | and it's smooth in OS X< in windows the camera stutter turns a little with cycling textures, no idea |
| 20:07.30 | MysticalOS | i thought they removed the cvar, or it doesn't do anything anymore |
| 20:07.35 | MysticalOS | it does NOTHING on os x |
| 20:07.53 | MysticalOS | the mac team made the client scan your vram, then set texture buffer to 80% regardless of what i tis |
| 20:08.01 | MysticalOS | that way it's best performance for what you have |
| 20:08.06 | znf | nevcairiel, which one is that? |
| 20:08.11 | MysticalOS | which is why i think it does a better job than windows client |
| 20:08.15 | nevcairiel | its been a while, it might have stopped working with the d3d11 engine |
| 20:08.18 | Stanzilla | znf: textureCacheSize |
| 20:08.22 | MysticalOS | it's not an OS X vs windows thing, it's mac team vs windows wow team on that one |
| 20:08.24 | nevcairiel | gxTextureCacheSize |
| 20:08.46 | znf | wonder what mine is set to |
| 20:08.50 | Stanzilla | textureCacheSize is the d3d9 one |
| 20:09.22 | nevcairiel | i think it doesnt do shit with d3d11 anymore |
| 20:09.26 | znf | oh right |
| 20:09.29 | znf | I remember reading on that |
| 20:09.35 | znf | is on d3d11 |
| 20:10.25 | nevcairiel | sadly renderer optimizations arent usually high up on their priority list, since its not easy to sell that to the higher ups |
| 20:10.28 | Gnarfoz | can anyone help me out and tell me what the problem is here? http://www.wowace.com/paste/9218/ |
| 20:11.11 | Gnarfoz | it's a big set of tank auras and it's spewing these errors at Malkorok and now at Thok |
| 20:11.15 | Gnarfoz | (it didn't use to at Thok on normal) |
| 20:11.20 | MysticalOS | wow's engine is pretty shit. |
| 20:11.29 | nevcairiel | no, its pretty old |
| 20:11.35 | Gnarfoz | the auras are all linked from this post http://www.sacredduty.net/2014/01/14/5-4-2-weakauras-strings/ |
| 20:11.38 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: ^ |
| 20:11.42 | MysticalOS | i actually stil drop to 25fps on ordos on tuesday, even in windows |
| 20:11.51 | MysticalOS | and they want to do new player models? |
| 20:11.56 | Gnarfoz | I wonder how it can be "compare number to string" for a buff return oO |
| 20:11.57 | MysticalOS | good fucking luck with that |
| 20:12.01 | MysticalOS | crowd performance is already pretty bad |
| 20:12.32 | MysticalOS | wait til we have new player models and 500 people standing outside dark portal WoD launch |
| 20:12.55 | nevcairiel | i dont think that is strictly related, much of the rendering is not well threaded, but simply more polygons wont impact that much |
| 20:13.33 | MysticalOS | it's 5x the poly though. it adds up with enough poeple |
| 20:13.54 | MysticalOS | and not just poly but they say more animation points or "bones" too |
| 20:13.57 | MysticalOS | that's physics |
| 20:14.10 | MysticalOS | which is cpu |
| 20:14.31 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: i know whats wrong |
| 20:14.32 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: dunno |
| 20:14.34 | znf | quick, someone needs to do an addon that toggles the cvar for new/old models :P |
| 20:14.47 | MysticalOS | honestly, i might |
| 20:14.50 | MysticalOS | if they add a cvar |
| 20:14.58 | nevcairiel | doubtful you can change that without a gfx restart |
| 20:15.03 | Stanzilla | if they add a cvar just toggle it on combat start :D |
| 20:15.04 | MysticalOS | although what nev said |
| 20:15.06 | MysticalOS | probably true |
| 20:15.27 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: if(value > 999999) then value = math.floor(value/1000000) .. "M" end |
| 20:15.34 | nevcairiel | if value is > that, it ends up a string |
| 20:15.42 | nevcairiel | one line below, you check it a second time |
| 20:15.43 | Gnarfoz | oh, hm |
| 20:15.45 | nevcairiel | string vs number |
| 20:15.49 | nevcairiel | make it else if |
| 20:16.04 | Gnarfoz | do you know which aura it is in? or did you get that from the error |
| 20:16.15 | nevcairiel | i got that from the error |
| 20:16.18 | Stanzilla | its in the error |
| 20:16.41 | nevcairiel | it calculates WoG amount |
| 20:16.46 | nevcairiel | if that helps you find the aura |
| 20:16.47 | Stanzilla | Eternal Flame Stoplight < |
| 20:16.51 | Stanzilla | should be that one? |
| 20:17.27 | Stanzilla | or the Vengeance/SS/EF Helper Auras |
| 20:17.47 | Stanzilla | also wtf at overlycomplicatedshit |
| 20:20.31 | nevcairiel | MysticalOS: in any case, if they manage to make the game unplayable for a majority of people, they might actually go and try to improve the engine |
| 20:20.35 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: optimize it ;) |
| 20:20.44 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: nothx |
| 20:21.28 | znf | nevcairiel, dream on :( |
| 20:21.29 | Stanzilla | I'm kinda in love with this thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ib-D2L0NWY&feature=youtu.be |
| 20:21.31 | nevcairiel | they cant back out of the new models anymore for performance reasons, that would make them look like absolute idiots |
| 20:21.32 | Gnarfoz | and no, the Stoplight part is new, so it's gotta be in one of the others |
| 20:21.48 | znf | they'll just up the sys requirements |
| 20:21.49 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: they already said they're looking into providing a switch to use the old ones, for low end pcs |
| 20:22.00 | znf | I'm happy that at least raids will be 20M now |
| 20:22.03 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: i haz no clue about freaking paladins, so whatever calculates WoG, or whatever WoG even means, check that! |
| 20:22.11 | znf | maybe I get one-two more frames per second! |
| 20:22.24 | nevcairiel | znf: except that raids in the tiers before can go up to 30! |
| 20:22.29 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: it's Word of Glory; it should be the amount it will heal for |
| 20:22.35 | znf | who cares? I'm not going to go back :P |
| 20:22.36 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: which scales with Vengeance |
| 20:22.46 | nevcairiel | znf: you'll have to run the lower difficulties |
| 20:23.04 | znf | The plebes will. |
| 20:23.07 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: should be some aura then that uses the WoG value, there :) |
| 20:23.13 | MysticalOS | considering I have a haswell overclocked to 4.3ghz, a superclocked nvidia 780, and 32 gigs of ram and everything tweaked to max, and STILL manage to tank to 25fps on ordos in a crowd, is appauling. they might as well make system requirements a supercomputer |
| 20:23.27 | MysticalOS | no other game is this bad. i put in a modern game and it runs like a dream |
| 20:23.36 | nevcairiel | like i said, its just old |
| 20:23.42 | znf | MysticalOS, TURN OFF ADDONS MAN! |
| 20:23.42 | znf | :P |
| 20:23.48 | Megalon | wipe cache |
| 20:23.51 | Megalon | reboot pc |
| 20:23.51 | MysticalOS | i run so minimalistic on addons |
| 20:23.57 | Megalon | reinstall windows |
| 20:23.59 | Megalon | get a life |
| 20:24.08 | Megalon | quit gyn, hit the lawyer |
| 20:24.10 | nevcairiel | addons can even bring down such a machine, make no mistake |
| 20:24.21 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: huh? |
| 20:24.25 | Gnarfoz | I'm supposed to make it an else if |
| 20:24.30 | Gnarfoz | instead of two if ... end's? |
| 20:24.31 | MysticalOS | oh i know. but i run like 10. and have cpu profiled them extensively |
| 20:24.40 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: just put an "else" in front of the second if |
| 20:24.55 | nevcairiel | so they can never run both |
| 20:24.56 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/paste/9219/ is the code, I think |
| 20:25.02 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: oh, now I get it |
| 20:25.04 | nevcairiel | yes thats it |
| 20:25.10 | znf | MysticalOS, you run a dps meter, right? :P |
| 20:25.32 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: like dis? http://www.wowace.com/paste/9220/ :D |
| 20:26.06 | nevcairiel | luckily for you in lua it actually is "elseif" |
| 20:26.18 | Gnarfoz | the WA code editor has syntax checking :D |
| 20:26.28 | MysticalOS | trust me, the cpu impact of skada is not that high, especially since i disable 90% of it. highest cpu usage is unit frames by far. skada is number 2, but even then the cpu impact at most of all my mods together is like 1fps |
| 20:26.30 | nevcairiel | oh right it uses all indents and purposes, iirc |
| 20:26.47 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 20:26.57 | MysticalOS | it'll have a bigger affect on an older system but mine the cpu profiling shows the mods laughable at best, unless they are broken |
| 20:27.31 | nevcairiel | i have like 10 fps impact, but then an absolute impact is hard to measure, 10 fps from 100 is unimportant and just 10%, 10 fps from 30 is more important |
| 20:27.40 | nevcairiel | i should clean up my addons one day |
| 20:27.48 | Stanzilla | Fisker: http://git.chromium.org/gitweb/?p=git/chromium.git;a=commitdiff;h=934d50d12f473f614e9d00b90df5ab4318c7e17d progress! |
| 20:27.53 | MysticalOS | how many mods hit you that hard? |
| 20:27.57 | MysticalOS | seems like a large hit |
| 20:28.09 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: \o/ me luv you longtime |
| 20:28.35 | nevcairiel | with libraries i run like 180 things, although never all at once on one character |
| 20:28.38 | znf | I'm actually getting 12~14 fps now at Blackfuse HC! |
| 20:28.40 | nevcairiel | like i said, should clean house :p |
| 20:29.05 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/x7BpMFk.png |
| 20:29.06 | znf | :-S |
| 20:29.28 | nevcairiel | my count also included the dummy blizzard folders, so there is that |
| 20:29.52 | znf | I also have a lot of addons that aren't enabled but are installed |
| 20:29.56 | znf | like tidyplates |
| 20:30.10 | nevcairiel | i have a broker display and a few informational broker things that are not mandatory, but i doubt they eat much into performance either |
| 20:30.23 | znf | those are also the majority of addons I have |
| 20:30.25 | nevcairiel | turns on cpu profiling |
| 20:30.33 | nevcairiel | what addon does one use for that these days? :d |
| 20:31.49 | znf | "addonprofiler"? :P |
| 20:31.51 | Stanzilla | cpu profiling? |
| 20:32.00 | znf | write a new one! |
| 20:32.45 | nevcairiel | i wonder if the broker thing i use for memory has support for that |
| 20:33.09 | nevcairiel | hm nope =P |
| 20:36.09 | znf | Stanzilla: still using knp? |
| 20:36.37 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 20:36.51 | nevcairiel | all the cpu addons i find are rather out of date |
| 20:36.54 | nevcairiel | oh well |
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| 20:40.33 | MysticalOS | i baffled that api requires you to get your own presence id before even sending. that's tedious and pointless |
| 20:40.41 | MysticalOS | i don't even remember how to get own presenceid |
| 20:41.06 | MysticalOS | can't seem to call BNet_GetPresenceID on self |
| 20:42.41 | nevcairiel | hm just idling around in the shrine, handynotes uses a rather high amount of cpu |
| 20:42.48 | MysticalOS | yes |
| 20:42.53 | MysticalOS | i noticed handynotes uses a lot |
| 20:42.55 | MysticalOS | so does npcscan overlay |
| 20:43.10 | nevcairiel | its even above the standalone ace3 lib now |
| 20:43.28 | MysticalOS | well ace3 depends on number of mods making ave calls |
| 20:43.29 | MysticalOS | ace* |
| 20:43.38 | nevcairiel | yeah hard to track |
| 20:43.39 | MysticalOS | for me ace is number one while idle |
| 20:43.57 | MysticalOS | wim is 2, no real shocker there |
| 20:44.00 | nevcairiel | and tidyplateswidgets is high, despite not being one plate up |
| 20:44.07 | nevcairiel | fucking plate addons |
| 20:44.13 | MysticalOS | hmm |
| 20:44.23 | MysticalOS | actually that sounds like you don't have updated version of threatplates? |
| 20:44.38 | nevcairiel | i just downloaded tidyplates a month ago or so |
| 20:44.45 | MysticalOS | what theme you use? |
| 20:44.53 | nevcairiel | no idea |
| 20:44.55 | MysticalOS | widgets uses a lot of cpu on combat log for debuff tracking |
| 20:45.03 | MysticalOS | if you disable that it should unregister CLEU and use almosst none |
| 20:45.16 | nevcairiel | neon damage, apparently |
| 20:45.22 | MysticalOS | you are getting CLEU events even at shrine trust me |
| 20:45.26 | MysticalOS | probably picking up target dummies |
| 20:45.46 | nevcairiel | i really like debuff tracking for when i roam the world as moonkin though |
| 20:45.57 | nevcairiel | oh well what can you do |
| 20:46.34 | nevcairiel | tomtom is also pretty high, considering i'm doing nothing at all |
| 20:46.37 | MysticalOS | could mod tidyplates a little to only register CLEU when yuo enter combat, unregister when you leave? |
| 20:46.44 | MysticalOS | then it won't track shit out of combat though |
| 20:46.53 | nevcairiel | well performance only matters in combat, so screw that |
| 20:47.52 | nevcairiel | hm is there still any addon to profile the functions of an addon? I forgot the name of the addon i used previously for that, so long ago... |
| 20:51.32 | znf | so you're seeing the same things I did :P |
| 20:51.52 | znf | silverdragon, handynotes, tomtom :) |
| 20:51.59 | znf | well, silverdragon/npcscan |
| 20:53.59 | MysticalOS | silverdragon won't use any in combat |
| 20:54.02 | MysticalOS | so it own't matter much |
| 20:54.16 | MysticalOS | it is scanning cache every 0.5 seconds |
| 20:54.23 | MysticalOS | out of combat so cpu there is expected |
| 20:54.29 | znf | yeah, I know |
| 20:54.31 | nevcairiel | its handynotes with its minimap overlays thats causing the big issues |
| 20:55.01 | znf | but I did notice that if I play a long session with SD on, after a while the camera starts to stutter |
| 20:55.28 | znf | hmmm, apparently no addon uses LibBetterBlizzOptions |
| 20:55.46 | znf | I wonder why I have it |
| 20:56.10 | znf | and none uses LibBossIDs?! |
| 20:56.12 | znf | wth? |
| 20:57.02 | znf | Seems that there's quite a few libraries which have no use in my addon list |
| 20:57.04 | MysticalOS | i seriously can't find a single api that gets your own presenceid, only everyone else |
| 20:57.07 | MysticalOS | is it even possible? |
| 20:57.14 | nevcairiel | what do you need it for |
| 20:57.21 | MysticalOS | apparently, sending syncs |
| 20:57.24 | MysticalOS | in 5.4.7 |
| 20:57.26 | MysticalOS | for bnet |
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| 20:57.37 | nevcairiel | doesnt it just need the target id? |
| 20:58.04 | MysticalOS | hmm |
| 20:58.23 | MysticalOS | that seems less effective if you have to do "for all online friends do" and then send to one at a time |
| 20:58.30 | nevcairiel | BNSendGameData (presenceID, addonPrefix, message) |
| 20:58.31 | MysticalOS | but knowing blizz that probably is how it is |
| 20:58.34 | nevcairiel | i would wager thats the target |
| 20:58.36 | nevcairiel | not yours |
| 20:58.55 | nevcairiel | what sense would your own make |
| 20:59.05 | MysticalOS | yeah ok. guess i assumed blizz would be smart enough to implement an actual channel |
| 20:59.11 | MysticalOS | and then it wouldn't make senes for any id |
| 20:59.30 | MysticalOS | so if you have 80 friends you have to send 80 messages |
| 20:59.34 | MysticalOS | that's efficient |
| 20:59.40 | nevcairiel | the announcements also talks about actual chat message throttle |
| 20:59.43 | nevcairiel | not status broadcast |
| 20:59.53 | nevcairiel | thats what you kinda interpreted in there :) |
| 21:00.02 | MysticalOS | OQ sends whispers |
| 21:00.06 | MysticalOS | you just don't see them |
| 21:00.21 | MysticalOS | i dang sure have to filter them in dbm though |
| 21:00.22 | nevcairiel | so whats different to today then? |
| 21:00.25 | znf | hopefully they'll switch to bnet stuff |
| 21:00.51 | MysticalOS | wow filters them, not everyone does, unless they make a point to |
| 21:01.02 | MysticalOS | blizz probably doesn't want to filter oq in 5 games plus launcher |
| 21:01.06 | MysticalOS | forever :) |
| 21:01.12 | znf | give launcher chat already |
| 21:01.18 | znf | also, make the wow armory app an actual bnet chat :( |
| 21:01.21 | MysticalOS | i'm hoping that's soon? |
| 21:01.30 | nevcairiel | it functions like the normal whisper addon channel, just for bnet, not sure how you came to expect anything else really :) |
| 21:03.01 | znf | http://gfycat.com/SeparateLimpingDarklingbeetle |
| 21:03.02 | nevcairiel | now, wtf was this addon named that could profile individual addon functions |
| 21:09.58 | Torhal | nevcairiel: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13888-AddonProfiler.html perhaps? |
| 21:10.12 | Shirik | wtf is gfycat |
| 21:10.20 | nevcairiel | Torhal: nah that only shows a addon summary |
| 21:10.25 | nevcairiel | i want individual functions! |
| 21:10.30 | nevcairiel | wtf was that named |
| 21:10.49 | nevcairiel | something with O |
| 21:10.52 | nevcairiel | some abstract/smart name |
| 21:11.15 | Torhal | OptionHouse is all I can think of. Same dude. |
| 21:11.39 | nevcairiel | why can wowi not sort outdated addons by name <.< |
| 21:13.06 | nevcairiel | the problem is that its so freaking old :D |
| 21:15.27 | znf | Shirik, makes gifs giffier |
| 21:15.43 | znf | Shirik, they download the .gif, re-encode it to h264 and show it off in html5 |
| 21:17.18 | znf | some gifs can be brought down from 6MB to 500kb video |
| 21:18.29 | nevcairiel | i dont suppose the old wowace svn is still alive somewhere |
| 21:19.36 | znf | Shirik, for example, this: http://gfycat.com/UnrulyTastyDodo |
| 21:19.36 | znf | ^^ |
| 21:22.53 | Torhal | nevcairiel: I could have sworn AddOn Profiler had options to profile functions/methods. |
| 21:23.02 | Torhal | Been years, though, so maybe I'm thinking of another. |
| 21:24.22 | nevcairiel | i think the addon was called "Omni", but i cant find a single hint to it |
| 21:25.15 | znf | pokes nevcairiel |
| 21:25.20 | znf | whispers "write your own" |
| 21:25.39 | nevcairiel | too much effort |
| 21:25.39 | Torhal | baleets znf. |
| 21:25.50 | znf | at least it would be a decent one! |
| 21:25.51 | nevcairiel | i also found another called LuaProfiler, i wonder if it stil lworks |
| 21:25.57 | znf | addonprofiler is like years old now? |
| 21:26.14 | nevcairiel | if all you want it a summary, use broker_cpu, seems to work |
| 21:28.43 | znf | nope, I want profiling! |
| 21:31.10 | nevcairiel | thats totally of no interest to anyone but a developer |
| 21:31.23 | nevcairiel | why would you care which function in an addon is called how often |
| 21:32.43 | znf | nevcairiel, I sometimes like pointing fingers! |
| 21:33.11 | nevcairiel | ...how does figuring out which function is to blame help do that? |
| 21:33.38 | znf | go away with your logic! |
| 21:33.51 | nevcairiel | you can only begin to interpret the data if you know how an addon is structured |
| 21:34.04 | znf | but really now - I just want an updated http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/addon-profiler |
| 21:34.42 | nevcairiel | use broker_cpu then, it shows the same info and seems to work just fine |
| 21:34.53 | nevcairiel | hasnt been updated since 5.0, but still functions perfectly |
| 21:35.16 | znf | I think my GM forgot to pay for the mumble server |
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| 21:57.20 | znf | So, think that maybe stuf is less-cpu intensive than suf? |
| 21:58.34 | nevcairiel | quite possible |
| 21:58.51 | nevcairiel | it also helps to turn off things like smooth health/power updates |
| 21:59.18 | znf | I did |
| 21:59.23 | znf | I even turned off predictive healing |
| 21:59.26 | znf | even turned off absorbs |
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| 22:11.20 | znf | Stanzilla, what's this set? http://i.imgur.com/b1NC2ZP.png |
| 22:13.14 | nebula169 | znf: msv heroic cloth |
| 22:13.43 | znf | thanks |
| 22:13.54 | znf | oh god, stuf is horrible |
| 22:15.45 | nevcairiel | doesnt the timeless gear look like that as well |
| 22:15.49 | nevcairiel | different color maybe |
| 22:16.03 | nebula169 | oh, its the normal coloring |
| 22:16.22 | nevcairiel | hm no, thats the original timeless color |
| 22:16.26 | nebula169 | http://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=1471 |
| 22:16.34 | nebula169 | well i mean, it was in the game before timeless isle :p |
| 22:16.51 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 22:17.10 | nevcairiel | if you want it, easier to get cloth timeless though =) |
| 22:18.14 | nevcairiel | looks better on the belf than the human on wowhead though |
| 22:19.06 | nebula169 | everything looks better on a belf ! |
| 22:19.23 | nevcairiel | in comparison to a human maybe |
| 22:19.33 | znf | dresses look better on human females :( |
| 22:19.41 | nevcairiel | i'm looking forward to nelf and belf models |
| 22:19.48 | Megalon | i bet you'd look cute in a dress, znf |
| 22:20.03 | znf | Megalon, I'm kind of fat, so I doubt it |
| 22:20.12 | nebula169 | thats what all the girls thing |
| 22:20.14 | nebula169 | think* |
| 22:20.22 | znf | >_< |
| 22:20.35 | Megalon | well, fat is a fixable status |
| 22:20.39 | Megalon | stupid on the other hand |
| 22:20.58 | nevcairiel | still rather have a stupid girl than a fat girl |
| 22:21.07 | znf | this would look better on a human female: http://i.imgur.com/FZsgX1n.jpg |
| 22:21.26 | nevcairiel | znf: with your graphics, everything looks like shit |
| 22:21.29 | znf | ofc |
| 22:21.32 | nevcairiel | i can see aliasing |
| 22:21.34 | nevcairiel | a lot of it! |
| 22:21.43 | nevcairiel | nothing drives me more mad than aliasing |
| 22:21.44 | znf | ofc you can, I turned everything down to minimum |
| 22:21.55 | znf | my GPU can handle it to be turned higher |
| 22:22.28 | Megalon | perhaps it's better for you uninstall wow |
| 22:22.34 | Megalon | and perhaps switch to playing a nes emulator |
| 22:23.18 | znf | there: http://i.imgur.com/InVMgd8.jpg |
| 22:23.20 | nevcairiel | we should crowd-fund znf a new PC, everyone pays €10 and in return he stops annoying us for a year |
| 22:23.37 | znf | heh |
| 22:23.42 | nevcairiel | she has kind of a stupid face |
| 22:23.57 | nevcairiel | tbh i dont know the belf face choices, havent played much horde at all |
| 22:24.06 | znf | all belf female faces have a stupid/bitchy face :P |
| 22:25.37 | znf | multisampling and texture filter *should* be hitting only GPU performance, right? |
| 22:25.43 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 22:26.08 | znf | I bet it will impact my cpu, too... |
| 22:26.35 | Megalon | probably your whole life |
| 22:26.51 | znf | I don't have a high-end GPU, but still, it's a HD 5750 |
| 22:29.44 | znf | wish there would be an easy way to benchmark wow |
| 22:32.35 | Funkeh` | they have the flying FPS test |
| 22:32.35 | znf | there was that flightpath command, what was it? |
| 22:45.43 | znf | Stanzilla, what if they rename Windows 9 to Windows One? :o |
| 22:46.55 | quiescens | then they should be shot |
| 22:47.09 | quiescens | along with anyone else that gives smaller version numbers to newer products |
| 22:49.05 | nebula169 | but it's not the version number, its the product name! |
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| 23:04.08 | Megalon | znf, then we'll go full circle soon with windows threepointoneone |
| 23:04.53 | znf | so I have this blog running wordpress; |
| 23:04.58 | znf | the index.php takes 22s to run |
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| 23:30.07 | Gnarfoz | [21:02:32] <nevcairiel> on windows they fixed a regression recently, which was present since 314 drivers or something <-- indeed \o/ so happy they actuall fixed that, would have been a shame to stay on 294.something forever ^^ |
| 23:33.17 | Stanzilla | znf: they wont |
| 23:33.28 | znf | You think? ^^ |
| 23:36.19 | Stanzilla | I sure hope so |
| 23:37.48 | znf | Finally I figured where I saw the chick from Dracula before |
| 23:38.00 | znf | Morgana from Merlin! |
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