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00:31.09NeffiWell it looks like the sales of their console SoCs are giving them the revenue to keep going, so hopefully they can make a comeback
00:44.47Arrowmastermaybe their shitty processors being in the new consoles will result in properly multithreaded pc ports
00:46.55Funkeh`maybe their shitty processors being in the new consoles will bring in a few buck so they can afford to hire some talent
00:47.14Funkeh`especially in the driver department
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01:13.53NeffiFunkeh`: "so they can afford to hire some talent" <- I heard (but I'm not sure if it's true) that they hired back some of the engineers responsible for the glory days w/ the original amd64, Athlon 64, etc
01:27.29quiescensmoo
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07:31.40hasteneeds more AMD K7!
07:36.07winkI just bought a Turion
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08:18.42sbmorning
08:18.51sbhuh? why needing amd?
08:19.22quiescensmoo
08:20.21TimmehI agree with quiescens
08:22.28quiescensgives timmeh a cookie
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08:35.24Timmehme want it!
08:35.28Timmehbut me wait.
08:35.46Timmehquiescens: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PnbKL3wuH4
09:07.05quiescenso.o
09:22.00sbStanzilla: i gots trinket! finally :|
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10:03.36quiescens\o/
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10:33.53Workfozwork work
10:34.51quiescenswoek woek
10:35.39sbgiev food
10:36.05sbWorkfoz: btw, tomorrow is still set? *looks outside*
10:44.04Megalonyes sb, tomorrow is still set as tomorrow
10:45.39Workfozsb: sure - what's outside?
10:46.34quiescensgives sb a cookie
10:55.18nevcairielprobably snow and cold is outside!
10:56.03sbWorkfoz: snow :|
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11:14.33sbWorkfoz: i dont care at all, just want to be sure that its okay for you :D
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11:37.39Workfozsb: snoooow? ;O
11:37.52Workfozsnow is a myth
11:54.06sbWorkfoz: ok, its smelting... :D
12:34.31Stanzillasb: yay
12:41.23quiescens\o/
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14:22.20Workfozla l ala
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14:28.33znfStanzilla, halp.
14:28.56znfStanzilla, Win 8.1 blanks the 2nd screen when a screensaver is active on the 1st one :(
14:29.05znfand it's pissing me off, and I have no idea how to disable it
14:29.33StanzillaI dont use a screensaver
14:30.31nevcairielwhat else is it supposed to do to the secondary screen
14:30.47Stanzillayeah
14:30.54znfwindows 7 doesn't blank it...
14:30.57Stanzillaonly thing I could think of is displaying the screensaver there too
14:30.59nevcairielyou could get a multi-screen screensaver, although those are a b it rare
14:31.06znfand I liked it that way
14:31.14nevcairielkinda pointless to have a screensaver if it only saves one of the screens
14:31.25Stanzillaindeed
14:31.36znfwell, it was perfect for me, as I have XBMC on the 2nd screen, and I liked blanking running it only on the 1st one
14:31.45nevcairielsucks to be you
14:31.55znfthing is, win8 also doesn't get awaken by the XBMC remote
14:32.21znfin 7, if I used the XBMC remote, the screensaver would go away, but not in 8 :(
14:32.42znfso if I let it idle for a bit, I have to get out of bed!!!!!11111
14:33.01Stanzilladisable screensaver
14:33.16znfI like my monitor going dark >_<
14:33.18Stanzillause a wireless mouse/kb
14:33.18Stanzillaetc
14:33.29znfI don't go to be with my mouse, stop being silly
14:33.42Funkeh`turn off the screensaver and set a timeout, tada, dark screen
14:34.06TorhalYour best bet, however, is to simply stop using computers.
14:34.17Stanzillaget a large stick and move the mouse from bed
14:34.45znf...fuckin' Win8
14:34.50Funkeh`it's the dark ages all over again
14:34.57Stanzillaso many solutions, yet you hate on the OS :D
14:35.14bluspacecow<PROTECTED>
14:35.24znfStanzilla, those aren't solutions, why are you silly? :P
14:35.35znfI want a screensaver, I don't want it to blank my 2nd monitor.
14:36.00znfIt's been like that since Windows XP, only Win8 changed it...
14:36.02Funkeh`what is this the 90s
14:36.10Stanzillafrom my understanding it was inconsinstent in old windows versions
14:36.16Stanzillaand they fixed it in 8
14:36.31znfs/fixed/broke/ kthx
14:36.53Funkeh`Ima go turn on my cool SETI@Home screensaver
14:36.58Funkeh`all dem cool graphs
14:37.16StanzillaFunkeh`: I made my own screensaver, it shows my name!!1
14:37.41znfofcourse, another solution would be to figure out why the hell the xbmc remote doesn't work like it did back in the previous windows versions, where the screensaver would gtfo when touching a button there
14:38.19Funkeh`they should just remove screensavers entirely, you can't save the screen more than making it go on standby on a timeout
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14:38.53znfwould be nice to have the option to turn off only a screen
14:39.25Stanzillaヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ SCREENSAVER or RIOT ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ
14:39.28WorkfozTorhal: I like your suggestion best
14:39.39DessaStanzilla: is that since you forget who you are, sometimes?
14:39.48StanzillaDessa: no
14:40.04Stanzillathat was primary school me, I was fine back then!
14:49.59TorhalAnd then the Unicorn showed up, and Stanzilla was forever changed.
14:56.16WorkfozI have altered Stanzilla... pray I don't alter him further
15:32.23StanzillaWorkfoz: why
15:32.26Stanzillawhat did you do to me?
15:32.42quiescenso.o
15:56.28EthanCentauraihow's this for a bits-and-pieces shopping list? any recommendations? http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/registry/wishlist/25JBIMBQE8SZ7
15:57.17quiescenstoo many bits and not enough pieces
15:57.31WorkfozStanzilla: I find your lack of faith disturbing
15:59.52quiescens1tb hdd moo
16:00.07EthanCentauraiformats quiescens.
16:00.13quiescensdies.
16:00.21quiescens):
16:00.21EthanCentaurai:(
16:07.25EthanCentauraia SATA cable would probably be a good idea :|a
16:07.41Megalon90° one
16:07.43Megalonit saves lives!
16:08.00EthanCentauraimy last one killed quiescens :(
16:08.23Megaloneverything kills quiescens, even quiescens himself
16:09.15quiescensif you are getting a boxed motherboard it most likely includes a sata cable
16:09.19quiescenso.o
16:09.30quiescensit probably includes more than one even!
16:09.56EthanCentauraithinking of this one http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-Z87X-UD3H-Motherboard-4thGeneration-Processors/dp/B00CXK59QK/
16:10.36EthanCentaurai(I've never done this before so I want to be sure I'm doing it right >__>)
16:12.04quiescensit says box contains s-ata leads
16:12.27EthanCentauraimost excellent
16:14.46Megalonoh the sata slots to out sidewards of the mobo, that's nice
16:15.06Megalonmy old one has some of them overlapped by my gfx :x
16:15.23quiescenso.o
16:17.40Megalonhttp://www.gigabyte.de/fileupload/product/2/3164/1210_m.jpg :P
16:18.00quiescenstechnically the page also specifies that the box contains a motherboard
16:18.13nevcairielmost newer boards use angled sata connectors these days
16:18.35nevcairielat least if its a board with multiple pcie x16 slots
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16:25.53Workfozyep
16:25.56Workfozan I'm using ALL of mine
16:26.07Workfozand another 2 on a controller card ^^
16:26.32Workfozstill a bit confused why the controller doesn't expose SMART to the OS
16:27.01Workfozit clearly supports it, since there's a monitoring app and that reports health status
16:27.15Workfozbut I can't look at arbitrary SMART values
16:27.23quiescensyou have too many drives workfoz
16:27.31nevcairielthey usually export it, but your OS might be too stupid to read it
16:27.42Workfozhow
16:27.45Workfozit's just an ATA command
16:27.55nevcairielor so you think
16:27.58WorkfozI even tried smartmontools
16:28.10Workfozso don't tell me to boot linux, I basically already did :D
16:28.19nevcairielsmartmontools worked for me on every weird controllers, sometimes just have to manually tell it how to quers it
16:28.22nevcairielquery*
16:28.32Arrowmastersmartmontools has some specific commands to work with certain controllers
16:28.35WorkfozI saw no parameter to do such a thing
16:28.57Arrowmasteryou have to find your controller in the smartmontools docs because each one is different
16:29.23Arrowmasterthe raid controller in my desktop had a special device you had to query in a special way for each drive
16:29.28nevcairieli have to pass "-d sat" for my controller
16:29.38nevcairielforgot what sat means
16:29.52Workfozwell, it's a raid capable controller, the drives are not part of any array though
16:30.01WorkfozI suspect that's problematic somehow
16:30.06nevcairiel<PROTECTED>
16:30.12nevcairielthats apparently "sat"
16:30.12nevcairiel:d
16:30.13Arrowmasteris each drive exposed to the OS
16:30.19Arrowmasteryeah try -d sat
16:30.22Workfozyes
16:30.33Workfoz(what else, if they're not part of an array? ^^)
16:30.43WorkfozI'll give it a try when I get home, ty
16:30.48Arrowmasterwasnt sure if you ment they were in a true JBOD
16:30.55nevcairielthere is a couple more modes, depending on the controller
16:31.01WorkfozI just wanted MOAR PORTS
16:31.09Workfozthis was just the cheapest controller
16:31.15WorkfozI don't need the raid functionality
16:31.16nevcairielwhich controller?
16:31.53Workfozhttp://www.dawicontrol.de/index.php?cmd=proddet&id=raid top one, DC-624e
16:32.08nevcairielnever heard of that brand =P
16:32.12Workfozseriously?
16:33.03Arrowmastertry to remember the proper term for it but i think its HPA, a raid card without raid functions
16:33.13Workfozdo you know ICP-Vortex?
16:33.38WorkfozArrowmaster: huh? no, this one's a regular raid controller - I just don't use it
16:34.11nevcairielprobably didnt show up in my searches because i wanted a 8 channel
16:34.13WorkfozArrowmaster: you mean the thing where the raid operations (mostly relevant for raid5) are implemented in the driver and are thus handled by the CPU?
16:34.16Arrowmasteryeah when you just want more ports you should get the cards that dont have raid functions, they are much better for the price than using a raid card and not using the raid
16:34.26nevcairielWorkfoz: nah thats called fakeraid
16:34.39ArrowmasterWorkfoz: no i mean the card has zero raid functionality, it only exists to add ports
16:34.51Workfozoh, then you meant HBA
16:34.53Workfozhost bus adapter
16:34.54nevcairielnot many of such cards exist really
16:34.57Workfozindeed
16:35.33Arrowmastermore and more are now
16:35.51Arrowmasterbecause more companies are using software level raids than hardware
16:36.02Workfozthis was the cheapest 4-port card for the intended purpose that didn't have "zomg problems" reviews
16:36.18Workfozhttp://geizhals.de/?cat=iosata&xf=1462_4#xf_top 2 cheap ones, one wtf expensive one
16:36.46Workfozthe Rocket 640L would have been the top competitor to the one I got, but I read some negative reviews
16:37.03Workfozhttp://geizhals.de/?cat=iosataraid&xf=1462_4#xf_top this is the same list, but for raid-capable controllers
16:37.15nevcairielWorkfoz: the wtf expensive as 40 ports
16:37.15Workfozalso just 6 results, and it has the one I got as the cheapest
16:37.20nevcairielhas*
16:37.25Workfoznevcairiel: I know why it's expensive ^^ just saying
16:37.54Workfozit uses those 1-to-4 (or 1-to-8?) break-out cables
16:38.05nevcairiel1 to 4
16:38.23Workfozin any case
16:38.24nevcairielmy 8 port controller has those as well
16:38.25nevcairielquite handy
16:38.34WorkfozI think -d sat might be the right approach
16:38.41Arrowmasterthey use a specific port i cant remember the name of
16:38.51Workfozsince the drives attached to the controller show up as BLAH BLAH BLAH 125125125 SCSI Disk
16:38.52nevcairielSFF-8087
16:39.12Workfozvs. all others which appear as ASDF FOO BAR 515125  ATA Disk
16:39.15Arrowmasteryeah any 4 or 8 port card will use them unless its dirt cheap
16:39.35Workfoznevcairiel: which one did you get?
16:39.55WorkfozAreca? :>
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16:41.14nevcairielnah, a LSI SAS controller
16:41.28Arrowmasteroh SAS
16:41.32Arrowmasternice
16:41.54nevcairielthey run SATA discs just fine, and getting 8 port SATA controllers is otherwise pretty impossible
16:42.02Workfozwell, there's not much point in making SATA RAID Controllers with many ports really
16:42.28Workfozwho uses that many disks in a raid setup and they're not SAS
16:42.52nevcairielcrazy home server people
16:42.55Workfozsure
16:43.03Workfozof which you are one, and hence you got one
16:43.04Workfoz=)
16:43.08nevcairiel:D
16:43.27pompy1dont you wish you were this guy? http://www.zdnet.com/facebook-remote-code-execution-bug-nets-researcher-33500-7000025477/
16:43.52nevcairielpompy1: nah, that would mean i spent my days with facebook
16:44.02pompy1;)
16:44.50Arrowmasterheh openid
16:45.21Arrowmastergreat idea but so poorly done it needs scraped and redone from the ground up
16:46.54ArrowmasterWorkfoz: how munch was your card, i dont understand that link from earlier
16:47.41nevcairielhis card is 85 euros right now
16:47.50nevcairielwell, 85-90 depending on vendor
16:48.05WorkfozArrowmaster: it's the first one on this list: http://geizhals.de/?cat=iosataraid&xf=1462_4#xf_top -- so, what nev said
16:48.17Workfozhttp://geizhals.de/dawicontrol-dc-624e-raid-a877970.html
16:48.34Workfozgot it for xmas, so I didn't pay for it anyway, but yeah, about 85€
16:49.23nevcairielmy 8 port SAS was around 200 when i got it, probably could've gotten a cheaper one, but read a bit of bad reviews about the HighPoint devices..
16:50.45Arrowmasteryeah i found a highpoint HBA for $160 US and the reviews are terrible
16:51.02Workfozthat's why I skipped that one, yeah
16:51.18ArrowmasterLSI seems to have the quality SAS HBAs but they are around $250 US for an 8 port
16:51.40Arrowmasterwhich is what ill probably use in my next build
16:51.56nevcairielsame price as around here then, 250 $ is around 200 €
16:52.16Workfozwe use LSI in most of our servers, some Adaptecs (which give us a lot of trouble with ESXi)
16:52.59nevcairielhave always been pondering about rebuilding my home server
16:53.01Workfozhttp://www.areca.com.tw/products/1882.htm
16:53.04nevcairielbut what i want is impossible to get
16:53.08Arrowmastermy previous dead build has a 3ware 8 port SATA raid6 controller in it
16:53.12WorkfozI'll take one of those over an LSI every day, though :D
16:53.19nevcairielareca is nice
16:53.22nevcairielbut expensive
16:53.31Workfozit's funny
16:53.40Workfozwe have them in... our storage virtualization servers
16:53.40Workfozbut
16:53.44Arrowmasternevcairiel: what makes it impossible
16:53.55Workfozthose only have local disks in them for the OS + software
16:53.59Workfozthe actual SAN is FC
16:54.21nevcairielArrowmaster: I want a system for say 20+ discs, which remains quiet enough to run in my living room
16:54.21Workfoz??? I wonder who thought that was a sane way to spend money :D
16:54.33Workfoznevcairiel: good luck with that
16:54.34Arrowmastersound proof box
16:54.43Workfozyeah, basically that
16:55.04nevcairieli have a sound insulated tower now, but with its 14 discs its absolutely *full*
16:55.14WorkfozI doubt you can build a system with those specs and have it be silent enough without sound proofing it
16:58.17Workfozwoah
16:58.19Workfoztime to leave!
16:59.36Arrowmasteri have my eyes on a 20 harddrive case but no where to put it
17:00.20pompy1https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=469421 why does Mozilla refuse to add this useful basic feature in Firefox? :\  look at when it was reported
17:00.37pompy1there's an extension that handles it, but should be in teh core no question!
17:04.02Repochinchilla: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.6-18-g905d4c7  (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
17:04.03Repo905d4c7: Apparently a module’s :OnEnable() is called before the core’s :OnInitialize().
17:04.03Repof8f7c8b: Move bossframe anchoring cludge into the core file since multiple modules make use of it.
17:08.12winkpompy1: I don't even understand what it's about
17:08.22winkwhat's a 'library window'?
17:08.42Timmehthe bookmarks library
17:09.01Timmehctrl+shift+b by default, iirc
17:09.06winkwhere is it called library?
17:09.35Timmehin the window title :-P
17:09.56winkand iceweasel doesnt have it
17:10.03Timmehit does, i Just opened it
17:10.16TimmehI seem to have it bound to Ctrl+Shift+O
17:10.24Timmehunsure if that's default now
17:10.27Timmehor if I changed that
17:10.33winkshow all bookmarks?
17:10.45Timmehyes
17:10.49winkwow, can't remember in which decade I last opened that window
17:10.50Timmehthe window title is 'Library'
17:10.50winkthanks
17:10.55Timmehnp
17:10.56winkI have no window titles
17:10.59winkxmonad :P
17:11.05Timmehsame, i3
17:11.12Timmehbut I can toggle then with meta+b :-P
17:11.21winkI do use the bookmarks bar on this machine though
17:11.27winkbecause widescreen
17:14.22Timmehwink: http://imageshack.com/a/img196/4100/cj89.png
17:14.25Timmehfor your convenience
17:14.28Timmehthe window title :-P
17:15.14Timmehand my unbelievably high amount of bookmarks
17:15.19Timmehor large amount*
17:17.38pompy1wink: that bug is from 2008 for one thing
17:17.44pompy1so different wordings then maybe!
17:18.13Timmehwindow title is still library anyway :-)
17:18.14Timmehanyway
17:18.16TimmehWEEKEND
17:18.18Timmeh\o/
17:18.59pompy1woohoo
17:21.44winkoh right, even found it
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17:35.07EthanCentaurai"Removed Lunar Festival decorations from the Valley of Strength. Garrosh has decided that his Horde has no need for such things."
17:46.31winklol
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18:24.21Repotradeskill-info: 03ethancentaurai * r627 TradeskillInfo.lua: Core: Remove in-game profession window crawler debug thing.
18:29.24TimmehEthanCentaurai: in-game profession window crawler debug thing, nice
18:29.44EthanCentauraiyeah, I have a java script now :)
18:30.09TimmehI meant the description mostly :-P
18:30.40EthanCentauraiwhat would you have called it? :P
18:30.57TimmehI don't know, I'm afraid I haven't used your addon :-P
18:31.07Repotradeskill-info: 03ethancentaurai * r628 Data/Components.lua: Core: Update components list.
18:31.24Timmehoh! you meant "in-game component window list thing" obviously :-P
18:32.09EthanCentauraidon't tempt me :P
18:32.14Timmeh:-D
18:34.03Repotradeskill-info: 03ethancentaurai * r629 Data/Professions/Leatherworking.lua:
18:34.04RepoLeatherworking: Fixed the item IDs of Tough Scorpid armour patterns.
18:37.30Stanzillahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unzmTXlsah8&feature=youtu.be
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19:13.55EthanCentauraiGOOGLE IS DOWN. PANIC.
19:14.22miicaINTERNET IS BROKEN?
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19:27.44Stanzilla5.4.7 ptr
19:27.48Stanzillathat's a first for the .7
19:47.50GnarfozStanzilla: nope, 2.0.7
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20:31.37Ressywow... liking some of these new strings added to PTR.
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20:32.25znfwoah, pvp gear has been bumped to 550
20:32.26znfwtf
20:32.41znfthe season15 one, I mean
20:33.27znfI guess that settles it. The flying raven mount is from the CE
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20:48.37znfStanzilla, yay, they fixed the adblock issue
20:57.31winkTIL there is https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Urinating_cows
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21:36.40Stanzillaznf: yay
21:36.44Stanzillaznf: in chrome or adblock?
21:36.45Funkeh`did i miss something
21:36.49Funkeh`how did we get to .7
21:36.53znfStanzilla, chrome canary
21:37.09StanzillaFunkeh`: they always spare numbers for emergency patches
21:37.16StanzillaTorhal Gnarfoz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKbDpmsgwSU
21:37.31nevcairielnah, they probably just used them up for asia only patches or something
21:37.39nevcairielthat was the explanation the last times it happened, anyway
21:38.36GnarfozStanzilla: zomg dynamic compression
21:38.40Gnarfoz(aka LOUD)
21:39.04nevcairielyou are missing a "range" there
21:39.31nevcairielbut yeah its compressed to hell
21:39.35Gnarfozdynamic temporal compression would be weird
21:39.55nevcairielsuch things actually exist
21:39.58Gnarfoznevcairiel: yeah, was a bit denglish, I guess, since it's just Dynamikkompression in German
21:40.15nevcairielthey really invented a stupid german word for that?
21:40.35nevcairielenglish its dynamic range compression anyway
21:40.38Gnarfozwhat's there to invent? it's a description made using regular words
21:40.48nevcairielit sounds stupid is all
21:40.58Stanzillabtw wolf of wall street is a good movie
21:41.17nevcairielfrankenstein kinda sucked
21:41.58GnarfozStanzilla: meh, I don't like the original song, and am not a big fan of "screamo" metal, so... yay for effort ;)
21:42.31Gnarfozweird @ 5.4.7, usually Wowpedia lists asia-only patches, too
21:43.23nevcairielits community content, maybe they slack
21:43.31GnarfozStanzilla: that's not that band of some friends of yours, is it? (I don't remember)
21:43.41Gnarfoznevcairiel: entirely possible^^
21:46.47nevcairielin any case, i'm sure some guy will ask on the official forums, and maybe blizz will enlighten us
21:53.33StanzillaGnarfoz: no
21:53.35Stanzillaalso https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-jpHFpbnnPtc/UuKARKp6N2I/AAAAAAABPBk/Tn0jxAlTBCM/w856-h855-no/scrollbars+%25281%2529.png
21:53.37Stanzillascrollbarz!
21:54.44nevcairieli dont get it
21:55.38Stanzillathe arrows are back
21:56.15nevcairielwho needs fucking arrows
21:56.34nevcairieli actualy like the new design
21:56.59GnarfozI'd rather have the "where does this link go?" popup thingies back
21:57.05Gnarfozbeen missing for months now
21:57.16nevcairielpopup thingys?
21:57.21Gnarfozhover... things
21:57.29nevcairieli get a floating status bar in the bottom that shows links targets
21:57.32Gnarfozwhat used to be in the status bar when it existed
21:57.40Gnarfozyeah, those. not getting them
21:57.46nevcairielworks for me?
21:57.51Gnarfozno idea, then
21:58.15Stanzillawfm too
21:58.25Stanzillaand nevcairiel they are part of the windows ux guidelines
21:58.28Stanzillathats why they are back
21:58.28GnarfozI'll do some actual debugging
21:58.34Gnarfozand turn off all extensions
21:58.35Stanzillaand because internet riot
21:58.43nevcairielStanzilla: didnt you notice that windows ux is terrible
21:59.30Stanzillaonly sometimes
21:59.35winklol yeah
21:59.49winkno link on hover would be instant switch back to firefox for me
22:00.03sbGnarfoz: wann/wo morgen
22:00.04sb?
22:00.22Stanzillaalso lulz https://github.com/http2/http2-spec/commit/23639de94485a690598002b5d8b900da9cef31a8
22:01.04Gnarfozwoah, it must actually be one of my extensions, floaty bar is now there
22:02.27Stanzillabtw Funkeh` one purpose for chrome accounts I like, you can add more than one google account to your profile
22:02.33Stanzillabut I really dont want that dropdown there
22:17.15winklol at GTFO
22:17.29GnarfozI wonder what did it. I turned all extensions back on and it still works
22:17.46Gnarfozsb: gute Frage, ich kenne mich dort nicht aus. :-)
22:18.53StanzillaGnarfoz: what are you guys doing
22:19.24Gnarfozsb: I was planning on coming in early enough to play some Ingress :D I'm usually not too successful at such plans... I tend to stay up way too late (nobody in here would have noticed *cough*) so I sleep in really late ;p
22:19.42nevcairielGnarfoz: go to bed
22:19.52GnarfozStanzilla: http://stuttgart.meatery.de/ nom nom nom
22:20.34nevcairielwhy are all you weirdos southerners anyway
22:20.41wink:D
22:20.54Gnarfozwhich reminds me, I should dig out the Chromecast from under this pile of stuff still sitting on my sofa 2 months after coming home
22:21.07Gnarfoznevcairiel: I'm not, really, I just live here now :}
22:21.08Stanzillanevcairiel has a creepy voice btw
22:21.12Stanzilladon't meet with him!
22:21.13Gnarfozdoes he now
22:21.39nevcairieli didnt imagine Stanzilla to sound like he does either
22:21.41Megalondid you follow him into his candy-van, Stanzilla?
22:21.53nevcairielhe sounds...normal
22:21.57Stanzilla:(
22:22.05Stanzilladid you expect the voice of a 12y/o?
22:22.10winkinconceivable!
22:22.13Gnarfoznevcairiel: it's what he's saying that's crazy, not the voice
22:22.21nevcairieloh, that explains it
22:22.25Megalonthen why does he act like retard
22:22.28Gnarfozglad we cleared that up
22:22.30Megalon>:<
22:22.57Stanzillapff
22:23.04winkpats Stanzilla
22:23.45nevcairieli finished rewatching game of thrones this week, still too long until next season finally starts <.<
22:23.51Stanzillabut glad that I sound normal!
22:24.22StanzillaI started watching house a week ago
22:24.26Stanzillaor 2
22:24.33nevcairielnever seen house?
22:24.36Stanzillanope
22:24.38winknormal or not normal isn't the problem
22:24.41Stanzillaalways thought it's crap
22:24.44Stanzillabut it's reallygood
22:24.45nevcairielbildungslücke!
22:24.50Stanzillayeah
22:24.53winkif people on TS sound like other acquaintances, that is so weird
22:25.01Stanzillaalready 2 episodes about what I have, too!
22:25.12nevcairielyou have lupus?
22:25.17Stanzillahaha no
22:25.22Gnarfozit's never lupus, man
22:25.36Gnarfozexcept for that one episode where it actually is
22:25.37nevcairielbut it gets mentioned every other episode!
22:25.42Stanzillayeah
22:25.46Stanzillaalways with the lupus
22:25.50Gnarfozanyway, awesome show
22:26.01nevcairiellast season was a bit of a downer
22:26.03nevcairielbut hey
22:26.19Gnarfozstill a better doctor story than Twilight
22:26.44StanzillaI'm halfway through S2
22:26.53Stanzillaand I totally derped at quizduell vs nevcairiel
22:27.20nevcairielyou failed the dolphin question? seriously?
22:27.27Stanzillayeah
22:27.31Stanzillaso bad
22:28.26Stanzillaalso managed to do 12 gebote once :(
22:28.45wink106 people here
22:28.50winkand who's talking?
22:28.52wink5 germans. m(
22:28.58nevcairielthat happens quite often
22:29.01MegalonZEY ARE INVWAIDING
22:29.07nevcairielwe should form a german channel so we can actually speak german
22:29.10MegalonMAN ZE ARTILLERY
22:29.16winkwhy would we :P
22:29.27Megalonoder einfach deutsch schreiben
22:29.28StanzillaI always thought nevcairiel does not want to talk in german
22:29.36winkMegalon you impostor
22:29.44Stanzillabecause we even wrote in english in PMs a few years ago :D
22:29.45nevcairielyeah Megalon, you are not german
22:29.46MegalonEI WILL HANT JU DAUN
22:29.55Megalonof course i'm not
22:30.06Megaloni am born with natural superiority :)
22:30.10Megalonaka austrian
22:30.15nevcairiellike der führer?
22:30.27nevcairielStanzilla: force of habbit
22:30.30winkNS does not mean natural superiority
22:30.33winksorry to disappoint
22:30.37Gnarfozs/bb/b/
22:31.00Megalontell me that again from my basement, wink :)
22:31.09Megalonwhen you get out.. 2043
22:31.15winkI hope it's a new one
22:31.21winkI'm quite tall
22:31.31winkand hate to hurt my head on basement ceilings
22:32.07StanzillaI'm tiny :(
22:32.09winkplus you'll have to cover travel costs to your basement
22:33.55Megalonstop being such a whiny little bitch
22:35.10nevcairielStanzilla: fuck bücher & wörter
22:35.14nevcairiely u choose dat
22:35.22winklol
22:36.34Stanzillathe other shit was worse man
22:36.34nevcairiel(and the one question i could've known, i failed at)
22:36.43nevcairielnothing is worse then b&w!
22:39.00StanzillaI got convinced to play osu! against a few guildies
22:39.03Stanzillaoh man :(
22:39.10GnarfozStanzilla: haha, enjoy
22:39.40GnarfozStanzilla: how do you play it "against" one another, though? I didn't see support for multiplayer the last time I played it
22:40.15StanzillaGnarfoz: dunno never played it
22:40.18StanzillaALSO WTF nevcairiel
22:40.21Stanzillathose questions
22:40.41nevcairielyou got the same right i did, so why you complain
22:40.42GnarfozStanzilla: describe when you're done ;D
22:40.59Stanzilla1 out of 3
22:41.04Gnarfozzomg those fucking questions
22:41.07Stanzillagreat success
22:41.29nevcairiel.. which are you referring to?
22:41.34Gnarfozall of them. :D
22:41.40Stanzillathe one before the last
22:41.49Stanzillajesus that menu music
22:41.50Stanzillamy ears
22:42.22nevcairielGnarfoz sure is on a spree
22:42.24Gnarfozdoesn't it just play one of your songs randomly?
22:42.35Gnarfozhaven't launched it in 2 years or so
22:43.00Gnarfoznot my day, for sure
22:43.12nevcairieli picked a fun category again
22:43.14nevcairielthis time i failed
22:44.00znfwell, fuck
22:44.02znfI'm out of red wine
22:44.30znfand it's 1AM and I'm somewhat drunk and I can't go out to get more
22:44.31znf:-(
22:44.47Stanzillawhy not
22:44.54Gnarfoztoo far away from stores to walk
22:45.09Stanzillasidewalkes flipped up maybe
22:45.10Gnarfozcan't drive drunk (already out of his licence :D)
22:45.28nevcairielwhat else could happen to him then
22:45.34Gnarfozand yeah, last possibility no shops open/not allowed to sell alcohol at this hour
22:45.51sbGnarfoz: so - when? :D
22:46.00znfGnarfoz, I can still drive until 28th (including)
22:46.14Gnarfoznevcairiel: extension of the suspension of his licence (or even permanent revocation), like it would be in Germany
22:46.15znfand I live ~9km away from the closest store
22:46.24Stanzillaeasy first round nev
22:46.57nevcairielfailed one :(
22:47.01Gnarfozsb: depends on if there's something to do/go/see before ~21:00 and you want to ;-)
22:47.06znfwell, at least now I realize that cabernet sauvignon is my prefered red wine :P
22:47.45sbwhats quizduell?
22:48.01nevcairiela phone app where you play a quizduell
22:48.03Gnarfozwhat it sounds like
22:48.07Gnarfozohhh
22:48.08Gnarfoznev
22:48.13GnarfozI might still win! ;D
22:48.30nevcairielwith computer games category? good luck
22:48.33Gnarfozafter my fabulous start of 2 rounds of 0 out of 3
22:49.42nevcairielwell, tied :p
22:49.47Gnarfoz!
22:49.57winkznf: 1am? thought you were in our TZ and not 75min ahead :P
22:50.08Gnarfozhe rounded up and no, he's in +2
22:50.09znfwink, 00:50 now
22:50.21Gnarfozdo you realize how far away Romania is? :p
22:50.23winkGnarfoz: man irony
22:50.42Gnarfozwhat about it?
22:50.46winkGnarfoz: yes I realize, but it's close to +1 countries :P
22:50.56winkGnarfoz: the rounding up
22:51.00Gnarfozit's far enough away to not be +1 :D
22:51.09Gnarfozoh, you mean sarcasm
22:51.15GnarfozDENGLISH ALERT
22:51.40winkis half-asleep
22:51.50znfI wonder if I can easily turn a perl script into a somewhat statically compiled binary
22:51.58winkand the more english I talk (right now 7h at work) the more it fails me it seems
22:52.00znfI get weird ideas when I'm tipsy
22:52.02Gnarfozactually, apparently, irony is now considered a synonym of sarcasm
22:52.14winkGnarfoz: no, you're totally right
22:52.17Gnarfozso my english knowledge on this is seemingly outdated
22:52.29Gnarfozwink: Google says I'm not :\
22:52.51znfalso, big question is where the hell would I get this sort of wine again? the stupid thing is damn good, but it's a limited "100 bottles" production :(
22:52.54nevcairielfor me sarcasm is more malicious then irony
22:54.11winkthat as well, but that's not the original meaning imho
22:54.12Gnarfoznevcairiel: the point I was intending to make is that, at least previously, irony was not something you could intentionally use as a rethoric device (?); instead, it was "irony" was limited to what GOogle lists as the second definition now
22:54.41Gnarfoz-it was
22:54.57nevcairielyou mean ... coincedence? :p
22:55.36Gnarfoznot really
22:56.06nevcairielin any case, verbal irony is pretty much the same as sarcasm
22:56.35Gnarfozwell, it used to just be a "oh, you mean sarcasm" thing
22:56.47winkonly in English though
22:57.00winkdarn false friends
22:57.08winkalthought it's either silly
22:57.15winkor Germans have been using it wrong all along
22:57.16Gnarfozhttps://www.google.com/search?q=irony (does that show the definition card for everyone btw? or is that somehow limited to logged in users or something)
22:57.26winkthen again, Germans + humour, as they say... :P
22:57.27nevcairieli dont get it
22:57.50winkthe joke or the card? :)
22:57.54nevcairielthe card
22:58.06winki·ro·ny1
22:58.06winkˈīrənē,ˈiərnē/
22:58.11nevcairielso its eitehr situational irony or dramatic irony
22:58.41winkbut damn, Romania really is far away
22:58.51winkgeography has failed me
22:59.02Gnarfoz!
22:59.03winkby 200 miles apparently
22:59.14znfwhy are you using miles?
22:59.15znfyou weird
22:59.16znfo
22:59.23winkI'd put it a little more south of hungary instead of southeast
22:59.35winkbecause maps shows me 200mi and 200km
22:59.38Megalonit's in the sandpeople part of europe
22:59.40winkand 200mi is the distance I meant :D
23:00.01winkfor km I'd have to zoom in once
23:00.12Gnarfozit borders the black sea, good reminder that it's not close
23:00.36nevcairieloh its saturday, i can go sleep now
23:00.37znfand keep in mind I live at the black sea :P
23:00.42znflike, 500meters from the beach :P
23:00.43winkah
23:01.01winkGnarfoz: well, Turkey isn't really "damn far away"
23:01.07winkbut yeah, also ü2
23:01.09wink*+2
23:01.09Gnarfozand in such an area, there's no place to buy booze at 1am?
23:01.16znfGnarfoz, in the summer, sure!
23:01.20winkhehe
23:01.24nevcairielturkey is kinda far away
23:01.42winknevcairiel: 800km less for me than for you ;)
23:01.49nevcairieli guess
23:02.23winkthat part of the map is foreign to me.
23:02.36winkSerbia, Romania, Moldova, Bulgaria
23:02.39nevcairielthe furthest east i've been in europe is greece anyway
23:02.40winknever been there
23:05.34znfhow the fuck do you share a place from gmaps?
23:05.45znfah, there we go
23:05.49winkit's hard, isn't it?
23:05.51znf(why the hell is this so complicated?)
23:05.53winkI ususally fail
23:05.54znfhttps://goo.gl/maps/zHSTk
23:06.02znfUX fail, seriously
23:06.07znf^ I live near that :P
23:06.12winknice
23:06.18winkthe town is called Neptun? :P
23:06.22winkor does gmaps fail as well?
23:06.28znfit's called Neptun
23:06.36winkwow
23:06.43winkas in Greek god?
23:06.46winkor coincidence?
23:06.53znfwhen they built the resort(s) in '70's they named them after planets
23:06.57winkahaha
23:07.02znfso there's Neptun, Jupiter, Venus, Saturn
23:07.08Megalononly one country between us
23:07.10znfalso Olimp...
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23:07.11winknuts
23:07.19Megalonor 1481 km to drive
23:07.20znfor maybe after gods? :P
23:07.31winkMegalon: as he's on the border.. technically, 2 :P
23:07.47znfbut for years the symbolistic of the other resorts (venus, saturn, jupiter) were planets, so meh...
23:07.49Megalononly hungary between znf and me :P
23:07.58winkand all of romania
23:08.26Megalononly one country between .at and .wherethegypsiescomefrom
23:09.11Stanzillaosu fucks my brain
23:09.31znfwtf is Osu? and wtf are you playing? >_<
23:09.42nevcairielhe is playing osu
23:09.47Megalonosu is game
23:09.59Megalonthe epitome of rhythm game
23:10.04Megalonand visual overload²
23:11.12znfI got a billion hits in the appstore
23:11.37nevcairielif you want audio/visual overload, then play super hexagon in way loud and fullscreen
23:11.53znfhttp://i.imgur.com/bP3SGXu.png <-- lol
23:19.16Gnarfozosu is a pc game
23:19.58Gnarfoz"Osu!", actually, with the exclamation mark
23:20.22znfyes, but: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osu!
23:20.27znfsays iOS too!
23:22.01znfah, good 28th is Tuesday, I can still go around and get a damn haircut!
23:22.57nevcairielso there actually is a question about a bavarian word, and mr Stanzilla fails it
23:23.19Megalonwas it oachkoatzlschwoaf?
23:23.39GnarfozEichhörnchenschwanz?
23:23.51Megalonwhat else would it be
23:24.09GnarfozSomething sane
23:24.25nevcairiel"Selchen"
23:24.37Megalonselchen makes yummy food stuffs
23:24.44nevcairielapparently bavarien/austrian for räuchern
23:24.50Megalonindeed
23:25.00Megalonbut you mean
23:25.06Megalonräuchern is weirdgerman for selchen
23:25.28nevcairielwe like to call it high german
23:25.30Gnarfoz"sel" is salt in some languages, smoking meat makes it salty (doesn't it?), -chen for verbification = selchen?
23:25.50Megalonbecause the air is so thing high up
23:26.02Gnarfozor what's the etymology
23:26.07nevcairielGnarfoz: it doesnt "make" it salty, its just salted in addition
23:26.15Gnarfozwell, ok
23:26.36Gnarfozso they emphasize the salting part vs. the smoke part
23:27.06nevcairielguess so
23:27.38znfI want a game where I can just shoot people :(
23:27.43Megalonpostal 2
23:27.51znfmultiplayer*
23:28.08Megalonmove to the us
23:28.24znfthat way I would just kill myself
23:28.39Megalonstill a kill
23:28.59nevcairielluckily they wouldnt let you in, anyway
23:29.47nevcairielanyway, i wanted to sleep like half an hour ago already
23:34.18znfshall not try to play osu! while drunk
23:41.40znfStanzilla, why can't I create an account? :(
23:41.57Stanzillado I look like the support hotline?
23:42.37znfyes
23:43.54Gnarfozsaywhat
23:44.04Gnarfoznow the link hover status bar things have stopped working again
23:44.28znfI clickity-click the "beatmap download" thing and it's not working :(
23:47.03Gnarfozturned all extension off one by one
23:47.14Gnarfozstill doesn't work
23:47.15Gnarfoz:|
23:55.11znfStanzilla, how do I unlock other tracks? :-/

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