| 00:01.59 | Stanzilla | yeah |
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| 00:24.00 | Repo | recount: 03elsia * r1251 (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 00:24.00 | Repo | - Fixed bug where joining members cause deletion popups in scenarios (Thanks to Phanx and Farmbuyer for making the problem reproducible) |
| 00:24.00 | Repo | - Fixed bug where one bit of the GUID was not considered for boss IDs (Thanks to Lombra for spotting this) |
| 00:25.57 | znf | Hmmm. Anyone ever used "fish" shell? |
| 00:28.39 | Stanzilla | I hate fish |
| 00:29.48 | znf | why? :- |
| 00:29.56 | znf | this shell actually looks good! |
| 00:31.44 | nebula169 | smells funny |
| 00:32.11 | znf | stop making fish jokes! |
| 00:32.11 | znf | http://fishshell.com/ |
| 00:46.02 | Megalon | does it aknowledge every input with a bad joke eel meme? |
| 00:51.54 | znf | this shell is seriously awesome, so many keystrokes saved! |
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| 01:32.52 | Ackis | znf: why are you saving strokes? |
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| 01:34.40 | Megalon | strokes |
| 01:35.42 | znf | Ackis: http://qdb.us/308906 |
| 01:36.09 | Ackis | lol |
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| 02:34.45 | Arrowmaster | znf: i take it youve never used zsh |
| 03:06.15 | Funkeh` | <-> look familiar? http://pastebin.com/Gq15cDX2 http://pastebin.com/7DbLhHGQ |
| 03:06.31 | Funkeh` | you know the last thing I want to get linked before I go to sleep is something that pisses me off |
| 03:07.04 | Funkeh` | MysticalOS, I thought the days of blanket ripping BW code was over? The fuck even the comments are ripped |
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| 04:04.27 | MysticalOS | ? |
| 04:04.44 | MysticalOS | i have no idea what the heck he's doing, i have to go behind him and fix stuff twice today |
| 04:16.34 | quiescens | keel tehm |
| 04:20.13 | MysticalOS | i want to sometimes |
| 04:20.17 | MysticalOS | believe me |
| 04:20.52 | MysticalOS | I think Funkeh` could use another Kr localizer |
| 04:23.52 | Megalon | you can use quiescens failboat to keel them |
| 05:00.09 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 07:57.12 | znf | Arrowmaster, I haven't |
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| 08:10.52 | znf | nevcairiel, remember my old dusty dedicated server from hetzner that I was talking about? from how much time ago would you say it is from? |
| 08:12.12 | nevcairiel | 2008 or 2009 or so |
| 08:26.01 | sb | morning |
| 08:28.17 | sb | znf: garrosh trinket should be > multistrike |
| 08:28.31 | znf | znf, the normal mode? no way |
| 08:28.46 | znf | multistrike hc > normal mode garrosh |
| 08:28.55 | znf | you're like, swimming in haste anyway |
| 08:29.51 | sb | so? reforge to mastery :D |
| 08:30.15 | sb | mastery+crit |
| 08:30.29 | znf | I have this website that whenever I enable it crashes my server :-/ |
| 08:30.34 | znf | I have no idea why |
| 08:30.41 | znf | (except: damn you, wordpress) |
| 08:30.41 | sb | why are you at pure mastery? :o |
| 08:31.22 | sb | it's still haste to 35% > crit = mastery > haste |
| 08:31.41 | znf | and I have 35% haste, you be blind mon? :> |
| 08:31.44 | sb | so crit and mastery should be 1:1 |
| 08:31.55 | sb | yes, but 14k mastery and 3.5k crit :o |
| 08:32.03 | znf | I honestly haven't cared much |
| 08:32.11 | znf | I can't really play lately with 2FPS in raids |
| 08:32.22 | nevcairiel | is crit = mastery in priority, it shouldnt matter which you get |
| 08:32.32 | znf | also that ^ |
| 08:32.58 | znf | optimally you should aim for both of them to be the same %, but that doesn't mean it's wrong to prioritize one over the other |
| 08:33.16 | sb | znf: same rating, not % |
| 08:35.14 | sb | *sigh* why am i the only one uploading logs for my guild/raid |
| 08:35.14 | znf | sb, you can tell I haven't reforged in ages :> |
| 08:35.18 | znf | look at my hit % :D |
| 08:35.24 | sb | ugh |
| 08:35.34 | znf | I got 2 pieces and I haven't made it in time to reforge |
| 08:35.49 | znf | Pst. Your Premium Subscription is going to expire in less than a month. |
| 08:35.51 | znf | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 08:35.51 | znf | :-( |
| 08:36.02 | nevcairiel | sb: mastery and crit have the same rating -> % calculation |
| 08:36.59 | sb | nevcairiel: +14.4% base (?) mastery |
| 08:37.02 | sb | or something like that |
| 08:37.15 | znf | aren't we at 8.2% as spriest? |
| 08:37.17 | znf | can't remember |
| 08:37.22 | nevcairiel | well sure, gotta think about bonus %, not total :) |
| 08:37.59 | znf | what could possibly cause this thing to crash my server? :-/ |
| 08:38.18 | sb | your server as in raspberrypi? :p |
| 08:38.28 | znf | no, my aunt's hetzner server |
| 08:38.40 | znf | if I enable a website, load avg. hits 20-25 :D |
| 08:38.50 | nevcairiel | so, don't! |
| 08:39.00 | sb | high load on that website!? |
| 08:39.07 | znf | sb, barely any hits |
| 08:39.08 | sb | or misconfigured webserver |
| 08:39.10 | znf | but when it hits... |
| 08:39.22 | nevcairiel | its wordpress, it doesnt need many hits to kill a server |
| 08:39.34 | sb | i dont have any problems with WP |
| 08:39.43 | sb | (large installation) |
| 08:39.50 | znf | sb, define "large" installation |
| 08:40.14 | sb | uhm |
| 08:40.15 | sb | let me see |
| 08:42.59 | znf | still waiting! |
| 08:44.39 | sb | i know :D |
| 08:45.15 | sb | meh, dont have any stats |
| 08:46.13 | sb | but its more than "just some hits" |
| 08:47.37 | znf | well, I'm at over 30k pageviews per day, for a single website |
| 08:48.24 | znf | and trust me when I say this, wordpress really blows at performance |
| 08:49.44 | znf | why do you think there are so many cache plugins for wordpress? :> |
| 08:50.31 | Timmeh | load avg hitting 20 the moment you enable a website? o_O |
| 08:50.47 | znf | Timmeh, yeah, something wrong with the way the template of that website is structured |
| 08:51.20 | sb | znf: did you try hiphop? :p |
| 08:51.23 | Timmeh | well, load going so high so quickly means either something recursive or an I/O problem |
| 08:51.31 | znf | Timmeh, I have really tolerant limits for the rest of the websites |
| 08:51.33 | znf | sb, what's that? |
| 08:51.51 | Timmeh | Apache HTTPD I presume? |
| 08:51.54 | sb | google HHVM |
| 08:52.02 | znf | Timmeh, for the moment, yeah |
| 08:52.15 | sb | and you should use nginx |
| 08:52.21 | Timmeh | znf: did you see if any specific requests take an age on `http://localhost/server-status`? (should be lynx or w3m-able) |
| 08:52.47 | sb | Timmeh: should be disabled by default |
| 08:53.04 | znf | thing is - this server is using WHM/cPanel (not at my request) |
| 08:53.04 | Timmeh | that's not the point, you can enable it and check >_> |
| 08:53.23 | znf | Timmeh, it's php's fault, that I'm sure |
| 08:53.29 | znf | I'm also using fcgi |
| 08:53.37 | sb | znf: http://www.hhvm.com/blog/1817/fastercgi-with-hhvm, go to "wordpress" section |
| 08:54.05 | sb | 23 req/s vs. 950 req/s :D |
| 08:54.40 | Timmeh | that's all very nice, and nginx is surely more performant, but something like that making a server's load avg spiking like that has a different cause than "you should use nginx" :-P |
| 08:55.09 | sb | Timmeh: right... was just trolling |
| 08:55.13 | znf | I run multiple websites on the same server |
| 08:55.23 | sb | there is are other issues |
| 08:55.45 | znf | the one with lots of hits I optimized as much as I could (w3 total cache with object caching - memcached, opcode caching - apc) |
| 08:55.45 | sb | znf: maybe i/o problem? |
| 08:56.03 | znf | the problem is with a website that barely gets 10 hits / day |
| 08:56.15 | znf | but when it hits, dear god, everything blows up |
| 08:56.37 | sb | err wait, 10hits/day killing your server? |
| 08:56.54 | znf | yeah, it's a crappy template that my aunt bought... |
| 08:57.09 | znf | http://www.giatros-in.gr/bork.php (I renamed the index to bork) |
| 08:58.11 | Stanzilla | morning |
| 08:58.14 | znf | time php bork.php returns 8.36 seconds :P |
| 08:59.54 | Timmeh | is the server otherwise very slow as well when the load spikes? |
| 09:00.21 | znf | Timmeh, no |
| 09:01.55 | znf | I'm gonna set up memcached for it, I guess |
| 09:02.10 | Timmeh | I'd find the source of the problem first before optimising |
| 09:02.15 | Timmeh | this isn't an optimisation problem :-P |
| 09:02.49 | znf | Timmeh, I'm pretty sure it's the absurd sql queries |
| 09:03.06 | Timmeh | but if the server responds "normally", but the load is high, I'd first look into something I/O related |
| 09:03.25 | Timmeh | so yea, maybe sql queries.. but that should generally be CPU intensive as well |
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| 09:03.51 | sb | ohno, another Gnarfone |
| 09:04.15 | znf | not sure how to check what's causing it |
| 09:04.18 | Gnarfone | Yep |
| 09:04.27 | znf | other than removing wordpress plugins for that domain |
| 09:04.53 | Timmeh | well, quick server, high load, generally means a lot of processes blocked in I/O |
| 09:05.04 | sb | znf: check mysql slow qurey log |
| 09:05.26 | Timmeh | yes, I'd suggest checking apache's `http://localhost/server-status` and the slow query log |
| 09:05.49 | Timmeh | both of which you'll probably have to enable first |
| 09:05.57 | znf | server status is enabled by WHM, afaik |
| 09:06.16 | Timmeh | and if you suspect the template, try a different template? :-P then you at least know where to look |
| 09:06.28 | Timmeh | is it a vServer? |
| 09:06.46 | Timmeh | or one of Hetzner's Root Servers? |
| 09:07.08 | znf | from what I can tell (I didn't buy the server), it's bought from hetzher by a 3rd party reseller (icebluehost or something like that) |
| 09:07.12 | znf | and it's one of their old models |
| 09:07.52 | Gnarfone | I've got an old Hetzner server \o/ |
| 09:08.07 | Timmeh | I've got one of their vServers :-P |
| 09:08.25 | znf | Timmeh, can't use another template :P |
| 09:08.32 | znf | this one uses some sort of maps and shit |
| 09:09.12 | Timmeh | I see |
| 09:09.32 | znf | you can see it now: http://www.giatros-in.gr/ |
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| 09:09.56 | Timmeh | I see |
| 09:10.01 | znf | sorry for the shitty facebook thingie |
| 09:10.05 | znf | just refresh the page |
| 09:10.05 | Timmeh | hah |
| 09:10.19 | Timmeh | check `dmesg` as well, see if any I/O errors are reported there, I guess |
| 09:10.56 | znf | nope, nothing there, already checked |
| 09:11.11 | znf | only stuff like CPU1: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 24969890) |
| 09:11.12 | znf | :> |
| 09:11.24 | znf | from yesterday when the server was pretty much down |
| 09:11.33 | Timmeh | right |
| 09:12.14 | Timmeh | when the load is that high, perhaps check if there is any process with a lot of CPU usage |
| 09:12.26 | znf | yeah, php :) |
| 09:12.31 | Timmeh | ah, not mysql? |
| 09:12.46 | znf | mysql is there, too, with like 80% usage, but it's getting hammered by php mostly |
| 09:13.04 | znf | in "normal" operation mode, mysql is barely toping 10% CPU usage since I enabled memcached |
| 09:14.04 | Timmeh | so there is high CPU usage as well then |
| 09:14.13 | Timmeh | well, I'd suspect something messed up and recursive in PHP :-P |
| 09:14.23 | Timmeh | as in, in the PHP code |
| 09:14.54 | znf | yeah, I'm 99% sure it's the template |
| 09:15.03 | znf | also, when that happens, I get "mysql server has gone away" :P |
| 09:15.24 | Timmeh | hmpf |
| 09:16.02 | Timmeh | maybe set a low `max_execution_time`, see if you then get more descriptive errors |
| 09:16.15 | znf | which is kind of to be expected when you have load avg. 20 on a 8 core machine |
| 09:16.20 | znf | well, 4 + HT |
| 09:16.59 | Timmeh | on such a machine for a small number of websites I'm not sure I'd even bother with memcached.. |
| 09:17.08 | Timmeh | performance shouldn't be a problem |
| 09:17.14 | znf | it is with wordpress :( |
| 09:17.28 | Timmeh | but not that bad |
| 09:17.34 | znf | kind of that bad |
| 09:17.38 | znf | this is my front page: http://newsitamea.gr/ |
| 09:17.48 | znf | of the most accesed website |
| 09:17.54 | sb | slow |
| 09:17.59 | sb | really slow :o |
| 09:18.15 | Timmeh | really very slow |
| 09:18.17 | sb | it doesnt even load here |
| 09:18.19 | znf | sb, if you think *this* is slow, you should have seen it before I optimized the hell out of it |
| 09:18.28 | znf | oh, it loaded in less than 2 seconds for me |
| 09:18.34 | sb | its 30s now, still nothing |
| 09:18.52 | Timmeh | took me ~30s as well, now it loaded |
| 09:18.55 | Timmeh | after it loaded once, it was better |
| 09:19.08 | Timmeh | perhaps just 50 MB of javascript to download? :-P |
| 09:19.58 | znf | anyway, now time php index.php returns in less than 2 seconds, before I touched it, it returned 8-9-10seconds :-/ |
| 09:20.15 | znf | all those little shit widgets take time to generate |
| 09:20.28 | Timmeh | I really think there are different problems, though :-P that's just insane |
| 09:20.46 | znf | if I disable a few widgets, the site loads up instantly :) |
| 09:21.17 | znf | right now I'm actually testing pipelining :P |
| 09:21.36 | Timmeh | hm |
| 09:21.37 | Timmeh | well |
| 09:21.39 | sb | you should not blame WP if you have ~20 bad 3rd party widgets :| |
| 09:21.52 | Timmeh | that's what I was just typing |
| 09:22.07 | znf | sb, it's not 3rd party, it's from the theme :P |
| 09:22.32 | sb | whats special about this theme? |
| 09:22.32 | Timmeh | if it's just ridiculously stupid widgets, I guess that may be a cause |
| 09:22.45 | znf | sb, that's what the owner wanted :P |
| 09:22.46 | Timmeh | but still 2 seconds to only render the HTML |
| 09:22.48 | Timmeh | that's a LONG time |
| 09:23.27 | znf | it really took longer before :D |
| 09:23.39 | znf | it has a billion images on the front page |
| 09:23.42 | Timmeh | and just optimising is basically working around the problem, only fighting the symptoms basically, not actually fixing the problem itself |
| 09:23.59 | znf | http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/brxzlv/www.newsitamea.gr |
| 09:24.12 | znf | Timmeh, I can't really change anything with the code |
| 09:24.28 | Timmeh | :-( |
| 09:24.39 | znf | I've minified the hell out of it, recompressed all 14k++ images with different image optimizing tools |
| 09:24.50 | znf | seriously, it took me a whole night to go trough it |
| 09:24.54 | Timmeh | well, I'm just glad I don't have to work that way then :-P |
| 09:25.13 | znf | but yeah, I'm curious how this pipelining will work |
| 09:25.18 | znf | let's turn it on |
| 09:25.45 | znf | oh second thought, let's not |
| 09:25.56 | znf | the preview worked last night :D |
| 09:26.00 | Timmeh | you said it takes 2 seconds to run `php index.php`, which only returns your HTML, and doesn't download or execute javascript/images |
| 09:26.06 | Timmeh | so that's insane :_P |
| 09:26.14 | sb | right |
| 09:27.09 | znf | real 0m1.820s |
| 09:27.09 | znf | user 0m1.630s |
| 09:28.05 | Timmeh | you can pipeline all requests, but if it takes 2 seconds to just generate the HTML, I don't think your problem is solved by just allowing multiple requests over the same connection :-P |
| 09:28.16 | znf | I told them to stop using that retarded rss widget |
| 09:28.56 | znf | Timmeh, I'm actually serving static pages to 99% of the users, trough W3TC |
| 09:30.56 | Timmeh | I see |
| 09:31.27 | znf | anyway, the main website is not really my concern, most of the time it loads decently fast |
| 09:31.54 | znf | if you refresh the first page you can see it loads decently |
| 09:32.03 | znf | or click articles |
| 09:32.05 | Timmeh | yea |
| 09:32.28 | Timmeh | it's just that I feel it's weird such optimisation is necessary for such relatively simple systems |
| 09:32.41 | znf | that's how wordpress works :( |
| 09:33.14 | nevcairiel | wordpress needs excessive amounts of system resources even for very simple blogs |
| 09:33.42 | Timmeh | it must be a really bad piece of software then, I didn't expect it to be that bad :-/ |
| 09:33.58 | znf | look at the opcode caching stats: http://newsitamea.gr/apc.php |
| 09:33.59 | Gnarfone | Yay finally got Windows 7 on my work computer |
| 09:34.04 | znf | Request Rate (hits, misses)793.85 cache requests/second |
| 09:34.14 | Gnarfone | Only took 3 years of nagging |
| 09:35.29 | Gnarfone | but since you can't upgrade from XP to 7, let alone from 32 to 64, I'll probably spend the rest of the day installing stuff :-) |
| 09:35.45 | znf | Gnarfone, be thankful you didn't get Vista :D |
| 09:36.23 | Gnarfone | ¬_¬ |
| 09:37.53 | znf | I really don't know how to read apache's stats |
| 09:39.09 | Timmeh | I've never really noticed a problem with the one wordpress installation I have running :-P but I guess it's a very simple thing anyway |
| 09:39.23 | Timmeh | + less and less visitors every day |
| 09:39.45 | znf | yeah, it's fine if you use it simply as a blog |
| 09:39.56 | znf | but it kind of evolved in a pretty huge CMS |
| 09:40.13 | znf | people are running magazines, eShops and who knows what else on it |
| 09:40.19 | Timmeh | right |
| 09:40.21 | znf | because it's so damn flexible |
| 09:40.26 | znf | but it doesn't "scale" at all |
| 09:40.37 | znf | (for the lack of a better word) |
| 09:40.58 | Timmeh | yea, just a blog, the rest of the website is a piece of old home grown software from one of the other related guys :-P |
| 09:41.04 | Timmeh | but it works decently |
| 09:42.17 | znf | in other words, I still need to fix my bandwidth problem after fixing this website :-/ |
| 09:43.05 | znf | can't believe I missjudged the hits they'll get on their webradio so much |
| 09:43.16 | Timmeh | scale down the quality :-P |
| 09:43.29 | znf | I'm at 128kbps :-/ |
| 09:43.33 | znf | I don't want to scale lower |
| 09:43.36 | Timmeh | ah :-P |
| 09:43.36 | Timmeh | yea |
| 09:43.40 | znf | but I burned trough 1TB in 10 days |
| 09:43.57 | Timmeh | well, charge them for the above-expected amount of bandwidth :-P |
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| 09:44.21 | znf | I started relaying the stream to a 2nd server and having the web player streaming from there |
| 09:44.27 | znf | I have like 20TB there |
| 09:44.49 | znf | good thing I checked last night >_< |
| 09:46.53 | znf | (also, whoever thought of aliasing rm to rm -i on centos should be shot) |
| 09:47.11 | Timmeh | and cp to cp -i |
| 09:47.16 | Timmeh | and mv to mv -i |
| 09:47.20 | Timmeh | and yes, I agree |
| 09:47.48 | znf | and you can't override with -f, you have to unalias, until you remember to change your .bashrc |
| 09:48.08 | Timmeh | or you uninstall centos :-P |
| 09:48.28 | znf | oh, I wish! |
| 09:52.10 | znf | if I had control over it, I'd so slab ubuntu-server (don't hate, I just like it more than debian's antiqued packages) |
| 09:53.07 | Timmeh | yea, I can understand, though I've always valued Debian's stable-ness higher than up-to-date-ness |
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| 09:53.49 | znf | well, I use LTS on production thingies |
| 09:53.57 | znf | latest version on stuff that is more volatile |
| 09:54.25 | znf | multi-tasking: http://i.imgur.com/tVwxXpe.png |
| 09:54.36 | Timmeh | what kinda stuff? I never really miss stuff on a Debian system either |
| 09:55.09 | znf | I'm talking about mostly "newer" stuff |
| 09:55.36 | znf | when I swapped to ubuntu-server from debian, I was really frustrated with the old packages that debian stable had |
| 09:55.39 | znf | like years behind |
| 09:56.29 | Timmeh | it's ~2 years between major releases |
| 09:56.44 | Timmeh | it's not too bad, imo |
| 09:56.47 | Timmeh | esp. for a production server |
| 09:57.44 | Timmeh | the only thing I've run into lately was nodejs, but I'm not sure that can be considered "stable" at all anyway :-P |
| 09:58.09 | znf | well, now it's not, but I have like ~6 years of ubuntu-server already |
| 09:58.25 | znf | (been using it since 8.x whatever the LTS was back then) |
| 09:58.56 | Timmeh | I think it's ever 2 years, the april release |
| 09:59.00 | Timmeh | so should've been 8.04 |
| 10:00.07 | Timmeh | every* |
| 10:01.55 | Gnarfone | Lolol http://imgur.com/BJPZ8Db |
| 10:02.05 | Timmeh | znf: and yea, back then there was 4-5 years between major releases of debian :-P |
| 10:02.39 | znf | yup, that's why I moved away |
| 10:02.49 | znf | it's faster now, but I'm too used to ubuntu to move back |
| 10:02.58 | Gnarfone | znf: use \rm when you want to get around it temporarily |
| 10:03.08 | Timmeh | hm, I'm glad I stuck with Debian :-) |
| 10:03.10 | znf | Gnarfone, I just unalias :D |
| 10:04.26 | znf | mkay, let's hit deploy on our pipelining thingie |
| 10:05.28 | znf | I ended up symlinking directories :D |
| 11:13.57 | sb | Gnarfone: oh, \ overrides aliases i suppose!? |
| 11:14.35 | sb | thats cool |
| 11:15.33 | Gnarfone | Sb: indeed, quite useful |
| 11:18.36 | mitch0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:18.44 | miica_ | rm -rf / |
| 11:19.56 | miica_ | that is the tip i learned in the early years i started to use linux |
| 11:20.24 | Gnarfone | It might not be in /bin! :) and it works for everything, not just simple stuff like rm, which you probably know the path of |
| 11:20.57 | miica_ | http://explainshell.com/explain?cmd=tar%20zcf%20-%20some-dir%20|%20ssh%20some-server%20%22cd%20/;%20tar%20xvzf%20-%22 is quite cool |
| 11:27.32 | znf | miica_, let's thank whoever put / next to * on the numpad |
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| 12:01.24 | sb | miica_: doesnt work anymore since --preserve-root is default since 2006 |
| 12:02.48 | sb | znf: https://eu.battle.net/support/en/article/world-of-warcraft-performance-issues :D |
| 12:03.40 | nevcairiel | sb: he could turn off his addons and get playable fps, but he is too stubborn to even try. D: |
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| 12:04.45 | znf | nevcairiel, I can't play without SUF |
| 12:05.13 | znf | the default user frames suck too much to be playable by a multi-dot class |
| 12:05.49 | nevcairiel | we already gave you numerous hints to other unit frames that just enhance the defaults without eating up much more performance |
| 12:06.16 | znf | I'm not happy with "enhancing". The default suck and no sane person should play with them. |
| 12:06.27 | nevcairiel | you didnt even try |
| 12:06.32 | nevcairiel | you are just a stubborn moron :P |
| 12:06.50 | znf | I played enough on the beta with them to hate them |
| 12:07.11 | nevcairiel | well then you dont get to play at all (or with 2 fps), your choice! |
| 12:07.25 | znf | seeing I haven't played last week and my attendance is below 40%, what do you think? |
| 12:07.46 | znf | how could I ever play with the default action bars? >_< |
| 12:07.52 | znf | they suck so badly, can't live without bartender |
| 12:07.55 | sb | no need to... |
| 12:07.59 | sb | just use 2-3 addons |
| 12:08.04 | miica_ | me neither |
| 12:08.13 | miica_ | i am drunk every fucking day and i love my bartender |
| 12:08.21 | Neffi | If you need something custom a fast, why not make an oUF layout? |
| 12:08.32 | znf | I lack the skills |
| 12:08.34 | sb | bartender, castbar, simple oUF |
| 12:08.37 | nevcairiel | Neffi: because he is also too stupid to do that :D |
| 12:08.46 | Neffi | Well there's a lot of nice oUF layouts out there already |
| 12:09.01 | nevcairiel | i have been thinking about going back to oUF |
| 12:09.02 | znf | And probably none that I like... |
| 12:09.04 | nevcairiel | but i got so lazy |
| 12:09.16 | miica_ | wut is this cry baby |
| 12:09.21 | miica_ | stfu or code your own |
| 12:09.24 | Neffi | IME most good replacements to stock elements don't eat up more CPU than the default UI, some eat less. If you're careful about your choices, no reason you can't use a lot of addons |
| 12:09.40 | znf | the biggest culprits are SuF, Grid2, Bartender and KuiNamePlates |
| 12:10.01 | nevcairiel | many of the big addons like SUF or Grid is not only that they replace stock elements, but also add a whole load of shit on top |
| 12:10.10 | Neffi | I don't see how Bartender is eating up much |
| 12:10.21 | sb | use blizz raid frames, they are fine |
| 12:10.30 | sb | + some oUF as SUF replacement |
| 12:10.41 | nevcairiel | bartender shouldnt use more then the default action bars really |
| 12:10.45 | sb | or just solve it with more/better hardware and use 200+ addons :p |
| 12:10.55 | nevcairiel | but default framexml doesnt get counted properly in those performance tools |
| 12:12.04 | znf | looks at Stanzilla |
| 12:12.05 | znf | wat? |
| 12:12.27 | Stanzilla | wat |
| 12:12.36 | nevcairiel | wat! |
| 12:13.09 | Stanzilla | today's patch day |
| 12:13.12 | Stanzilla | good day |
| 12:13.21 | miica_ | nerf day is best day |
| 12:13.29 | miica_ | finally i can kill bosses |
| 12:16.50 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/jkYBMAc.png |
| 12:17.10 | znf | OmniCC and LibActionButton while on a dummy |
| 12:17.37 | sb | remove omnicc+silverdragon+gnosis+WA2+affdots+wim |
| 12:17.44 | znf | SD doesn't run in raids anyway |
| 12:17.57 | znf | and the rest, are you insane? |
| 12:18.14 | sb | running WA2 and complaining about performance issues, seriously? :| |
| 12:18.31 | Stanzilla | hey hey now |
| 12:18.44 | znf | don't think I run too many auras |
| 12:18.52 | sylvanaar | I have to learn PHP for a job. They want me to do a project using the MVC framework they use. I was thinking I would make an error reporting site to upload buggrabber sv files. |
| 12:20.07 | miica_ | sylvanaar: i really recomend to read some best practicses etc before doing anything with PHP |
| 12:20.19 | miica_ | sylvanaar: it is shitty language and it will easily teach you bad habbits |
| 12:21.12 | znf | sb, find me a replacement for OmniCC, then |
| 12:21.38 | znf | OmniCC is the one thing that should really be built into the default UI already |
| 12:22.04 | sylvanaar | miica_: any suggestions? |
| 12:22.53 | znf | anyway, brb, moving my PC |
| 12:24.04 | miica_ | sylvanaar: well MVC will protect you little but i think best way to is keep everything small and simple and testable |
| 12:25.08 | miica_ | sylvanaar: i think most common idiocy is passing out multiple types from functions |
| 12:26.39 | Stanzilla | http://www.linkedin.com/pub/greg-street/7/644/b35 |
| 12:26.45 | Stanzilla | "Gregs Skills: Lua" |
| 12:26.47 | Stanzilla | yeah right |
| 12:27.07 | Stanzilla | now we know who did the best mistakes in the ui code |
| 12:32.19 | sylvanaar | miica_: thanks for the tips |
| 12:32.53 | sylvanaar | miica_: are you familiar with CodeIgnighter? |
| 12:33.44 | nevcairiel | i looked at codeigniter once years ago, but didnt like it, dont remember anymore why :) |
| 12:35.04 | miica_ | sylvanaar: nope |
| 12:35.07 | sylvanaar | thats what they use at this job. |
| 12:39.24 | sylvanaar | I like working here, so I am willing to put up with some framework quirks. It is good for my nerves here - low stress. |
| 12:40.12 | miica_ | stress is bullshit :D |
| 12:40.17 | sylvanaar | 16 years at my last job, the stress factory, it made me an ugly person |
| 12:41.36 | miica_ | that is quite long time |
| 12:41.49 | sylvanaar | yeah, I agree |
| 12:43.19 | miica_ | my personal attitude is that i always do my best and if it isnt enough then deadlines will bang |
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| 12:44.07 | miica_ | i am not going stress :D |
| 12:44.21 | sylvanaar | I stress easily - and I am not nice when stressed |
| 12:44.25 | nebula169 | how do you keep a job? lol |
| 12:44.52 | miica_ | well like i said i do my best and everybody knows it |
| 12:45.24 | nebula169 | Stanzilla: gc still hasn't announced where he went? |
| 12:45.40 | Stanzilla | nebula169: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/greg-street/7/644/b35 |
| 12:45.54 | Stanzilla | Lead Game Designer at Riot Games |
| 12:45.59 | nebula169 | oh, missed the top |
| 12:46.06 | miica_ | and usually if deadlines bang it is because some uncontrolled risk or badly estimated work |
| 12:46.32 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel Gnarfone sb any experience with telekom speedports? |
| 12:46.42 | nevcairiel | never had one |
| 12:46.45 | wink | what does riot games do? right now? |
| 12:46.52 | nevcairiel | LoL |
| 12:46.53 | Timmeh | LoL |
| 12:46.58 | Stanzilla | and some other new game |
| 12:47.00 | Stanzilla | that was leaked |
| 12:47.12 | miica_ | LoL riot games |
| 12:47.15 | Stanzilla | it's a hearthstone clone |
| 12:47.24 | nevcairiel | they seem to like cloning games |
| 12:47.27 | wink | ah, thanks |
| 12:47.31 | wink | never played LoL actually |
| 12:47.33 | nevcairiel | who needs original ideas |
| 12:47.34 | wink | I hated dota so much |
| 12:47.40 | miica_ | Blizz clones ideas and mages games |
| 12:47.45 | miica_ | everybody steals even musicians |
| 12:47.53 | wink | Led about half of the World of Warcraft design team. Oversaw class, item, profession, combat, PvP, encounter, UI and major feature design. Shipped 3 expansions and contributed to 2 others. |
| 12:47.54 | wink | rofl |
| 12:47.59 | wink | nice understatement. |
| 12:48.09 | wink | oh, and btw, I shaped the biggest MMO in history. |
| 12:48.23 | nevcairiel | isnt that what he said |
| 12:48.44 | nebula169 | wonder if he was that bored with wow or they just offered him a shit tonne of money |
| 12:49.04 | miica_ | or he was bad in job |
| 12:49.23 | miica_ | or he was stressed out ;) |
| 12:49.43 | nebula169 | mystery |
| 12:49.49 | sb | Stanzilla: nope |
| 12:50.17 | nevcairiel | everyone has different motivations for changing jobs |
| 12:50.25 | sylvanaar | ^ |
| 12:50.29 | miica_ | yeah |
| 12:50.35 | sylvanaar | Sometimes it is just time to go |
| 12:50.49 | miica_ | i would probably change job instantly if i had change work with open source |
| 12:54.16 | miica_ | it is also funny how there is lot those new young hipsters in uni |
| 12:54.33 | miica_ | they have never dont any coding or done anythign with computers |
| 12:54.38 | miica_ | they are just there to make money |
| 12:54.39 | sb | Stanzilla: so thats the reason for your "rip lol" message? |
| 12:54.49 | miica_ | they are like "hey i am here to make super game and become milionair" |
| 12:54.56 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 12:55.10 | miica_ | god i hate people like that |
| 12:55.21 | Stanzilla | sb: yeh |
| 12:55.22 | miica_ | then they usually fail after 1st year and leave |
| 13:01.52 | Neffi | wink: Kaplan shaped WoW. I wouldn't credit GC with that. |
| 13:02.05 | Neffi | Well, Kaplan and the rest of the team |
| 13:03.04 | wink | Neffi: not alone, of course. But I think he was important enought o leave a nice footpringt |
| 13:03.58 | Neffi | I wouldn't deny that. Others did as well. To say he shaped it though, ehh |
| 13:07.29 | wink | Neffi: if you think that sounds bigger than "left a lasting impression".. ok |
| 13:07.51 | wink | doesn't sound like single responsibility to me but what do I know about style in english? :) |
| 13:08.10 | Repo | libcandybar-3-0: 03funkydude * r76 bars.lua: document isApprox. |
| 13:09.23 | Neffi | I mean that he didn't design the game. He refined it. His work was evolutionary on top of an existing base. The shaping was creating that base. |
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| 13:15.34 | Gnarfone | Augh, I cut myself |
| 13:17.54 | Timmeh | why would you do such a thing |
| 13:23.32 | Gnarfone | I got the dumb |
| 13:24.01 | Gnarfone | Scissors should be outlawed |
| 13:24.17 | Timmeh | or just kept away from children :-P |
| 13:39.38 | nevcairiel | or simply use child scissors |
| 13:39.40 | nevcairiel | they cant cut shit |
| 13:40.05 | Repo | libcandybar-3-0: 03funkydude * r77 (10 files in 4 directories): |
| 13:40.05 | Repo | Fixup the improper library layout, keep the old lib.xml to not break addons pointing to the trunk instead of the LCB sub directory. |
| 13:40.16 | sb | nevcairiel: http://www.bastel-creativshop.de/WebRoot/Store/Shops/15331262/4793/1246/6A0C/738D/826D/C0A8/2936/079A/31-e-20545.jpg those? |
| 13:40.34 | nevcairiel | loosk about right |
| 13:41.25 | sb | Gnarfone: so you lost some fingers? |
| 13:41.35 | Repo | libcandybar-3-0: 03funkydude * r78 (2 files in 1 directory): Rename bars.lua > LibCandyBar-3.0.lua |
| 13:42.50 | Repo | libcandybar-3-0: 03funkydude * r79 (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 13:42.50 | Repo | Move LibCandyBar-3.0.lua to the proper LibCandyBar-3.0 sub directory. |
| 13:43.19 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: i bet many addons also are dumb and reference the old .lua file directly :d |
| 13:43.35 | Fisker | thanks for them um socks Stanzilla |
| 13:43.36 | Fisker | O_o |
| 13:43.38 | Funkeh` | Probably |
| 13:45.03 | znf | Stanzilla, OH! So that's why you said RIP LoL |
| 13:46.34 | quiescens | o.o |
| 13:48.13 | Repo | ora3: 03funkydude * r738 .pkgmeta: |
| 13:48.13 | Repo | pkgmeta: Correctly point to the LibCandyBar-3.0 sub directory rather than the trunk. |
| 13:57.26 | Gnarfone | Sb: almost |
| 13:57.40 | Repo | libcandybar-3-0: 03funkydude * r80 (6 files in 4 directories): Use a proper minor instead of the SVN revision. |
| 13:59.41 | Fisker | hey Gnarfone |
| 13:59.48 | Fisker | I got two pair of socks |
| 13:59.54 | Fisker | and two pair of wireless chargers |
| 14:00.10 | Gnarfone | Stanzilla is a thoughtful person |
| 14:00.14 | Fisker | yep |
| 14:00.30 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:05.33 | sb | Stanzilla sending you socks? |
| 14:08.13 | Stanzilla | Fisker: you are free now, dobby |
| 14:08.30 | Fisker | ? |
| 14:08.37 | Gnarfone | Haha |
| 14:08.44 | Stanzilla | your harry potter not up to speed? |
| 14:09.26 | Fisker | About an entire franchise behind |
| 14:09.33 | Stanzilla | oh well |
| 14:09.39 | Stanzilla | dobby is a house elf |
| 14:09.51 | Stanzilla | and when you gift house elves something to wear, the are free |
| 14:09.56 | Stanzilla | instead of being slaves |
| 14:10.04 | Stanzilla | man, you not knowing that ruined the whole joke :D |
| 14:10.05 | nevcairiel | you gave up the fisker slave? |
| 14:10.17 | Stanzilla | I sent him 2 pairs of socks, yes |
| 14:10.55 | Stanzilla | maaaaan that is sad |
| 14:10.57 | Stanzilla | my good joke :( |
| 14:11.46 | sb | those were used socks, right? |
| 14:11.53 | Stanzilla | yes but clean |
| 14:12.03 | Fisker | :( |
| 14:12.07 | Fisker | sry |
| 14:12.25 | Stanzilla | have fun with them though, I hope they fit! :p |
| 14:12.35 | Fisker | I just threw them out actually :P |
| 14:12.38 | Fisker | Have enough socks at it is |
| 14:12.42 | Fisker | as* |
| 14:13.45 | Fisker | no nas for me though |
| 14:13.59 | Repo | libcandybar-3-0: 03funkydude 04r81-release * r81 : Tagging as r81-release |
| 14:14.38 | Stanzilla | rude |
| 14:15.46 | quiescens | goto sleep o.o |
| 14:16.39 | Stanzilla | no z |
| 14:17.32 | quiescens | sleep is good for you~ |
| 14:21.19 | Stanzilla | still sad |
| 14:21.22 | Stanzilla | my good joke :( |
| 14:21.55 | nevcairiel | should've send him the movies as well |
| 14:23.08 | Stanzilla | yeah but I mean come one, how often to you have someone that does not know harry potter |
| 14:23.38 | nevcairiel | i probably would not have gotten it, i remembered now as you explained it, but the name of that damn elve, comeon :p |
| 14:25.21 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 14:29.40 | quiescens | gives stanzilla a cookie |
| 14:41.03 | pompy | so thats why ghostcrawler left blizz |
| 14:41.05 | pompy | http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/3694-Ghostcrawler-is-Now-Lead-Game-Designer-at-Riot-Games-Ghostcrawler-is-Now-Lead-Game-Designer-at-Riot-Games |
| 14:41.51 | sb | yay, internet broken again |
| 14:42.06 | sb | ok, everything network related |
| 14:43.18 | sb | stupid forefront tmg strikes again |
| 14:46.30 | Fisker | no rude Stanzilla :( |
| 14:46.39 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 14:49.15 | quiescens | ): |
| 14:51.40 | sb | Gnarfone, nevcairiel is there a text-based (console) browser that supports js? :D |
| 14:51.56 | nevcairiel | why would i want to know that |
| 14:52.16 | sb | no idea |
| 14:53.08 | Gnarfone | No idea, but tell me, if you did one |
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| 14:56.57 | Fisker | asd |
| 15:00.30 | quiescens | why would you specifically want a text based browser with javascript o.o |
| 15:00.58 | sb | because this ssh connetion is the only thing that works at the moment |
| 15:01.02 | Gnarfone | Because share hosters |
| 15:01.08 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 15:01.42 | Fisker | The "Installing windows apps" thing is it possible to tell it to fuck off? :P |
| 15:01.44 | Gnarfone | And other shitty pages that only allow you to download something if you have js, because they do some sort of countdown or whatever |
| 15:02.30 | quiescens | bounce your usual browser through the ssh connection \o/ |
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| 15:03.41 | Xuerian | Hooray for tunneling through poopie ISPs |
| 15:04.20 | Gnarfone | That doesn't help if I want to download TO the machine with no GUI |
| 15:04.41 | quiescens | X forwarding |
| 15:04.44 | Xuerian | Fire up emacs, I'm sure it includes a fully functional browser |
| 15:06.36 | nevcairiel | links2 supposedly supports javascript, but they also warn that it sucks at presenting web sites and most pages look rather confusing :p |
| 15:08.13 | Stanzilla | Fisker: what where |
| 15:08.37 | Fisker | The dumb "installing apps" shit when you first power it up |
| 15:09.04 | Fisker | I'm bored so I'm making a Windows 8.1 image for work |
| 15:09.11 | Fisker | (Which I'm not allowed to) |
| 15:09.16 | Fisker | (I'm a criminal yo) |
| 15:09.31 | Stanzilla | no I think you cant get rid of that |
| 15:09.36 | Fisker | :( |
| 15:09.46 | Fisker | also need to figure out why domain join isn't working |
| 15:09.51 | Fisker | otherwise almost done |
| 15:09.57 | quiescens | stanzilla broked it |
| 15:10.04 | quiescens | points at stanzilla |
| 15:10.20 | Fisker | oh neat |
| 15:10.26 | Fisker | my image lost its disk |
| 15:10.30 | Fisker | well |
| 15:10.38 | Fisker | I get to start over \o/ |
| 15:11.00 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 15:11.02 | Gnarfone | Yay! |
| 15:11.05 | Fisker | I hope xen dies a miserable death |
| 15:11.42 | Fisker | I'm smart though |
| 15:11.46 | Gnarfone | Xen is to VM what HoN is to MOBAs |
| 15:11.55 | Fisker | It's just a basic windows 8 image with updates |
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| 15:12.07 | Fisker | Almost all other changes are done in other ways |
| 15:12.12 | Fisker | so it's not a big deal |
| 15:12.30 | Fisker | infact when I get a wim out of this I can probably just integrate updates without ever booting the shit again |
| 15:12.46 | Fisker | we have the best time with Xen Gnarfone |
| 15:12.55 | Fisker | Snapshots will randomly fuck up disks |
| 15:14.24 | Fisker | It's mayor dumbfuck running it though |
| 15:14.30 | Fisker | So to be fair he may just be fucking it up |
| 15:14.40 | Fisker | but he almost killed my server three times |
| 15:15.01 | Fisker | and ended up killing a disk with our exchange public folder database on it |
| 15:15.07 | Fisker | oh and someone stopped backups on it half a year ago |
| 15:15.14 | Fisker | mad was had |
| 15:16.44 | Gnarfone | Znf: can you invite to irccloud? |
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| 15:21.39 | znf | I think I have one left |
| 15:21.49 | znf | But I can't do it from the mobile app |
| 15:22.01 | znf | msg me your e-mail |
| 15:23.07 | znf | ^ Gnarfone |
| 15:26.00 | Timmeh | sb: I think links/elinks supports javascript |
| 15:26.52 | Timmeh | at least a subset of it :-P |
| 15:33.02 | quiescens | shrug |
| 15:33.25 | quiescens | i still say just ssh -D and use whatever browser you normally use |
| 15:33.58 | Gnarfone | That still doesn't apply to the use case |
| 15:34.39 | nevcairiel | upload the file later then, duh |
| 15:34.58 | nevcairiel | probably still faster than trying to navigate some stupid download page with links |
| 15:35.01 | quiescens | are we actually talking about one thing |
| 15:35.11 | Gnarfone | No, we aren't |
| 15:35.41 | Gnarfone | Hmm, connecting to freenode with irccloud just hangs |
| 15:35.43 | quiescens | so you're looking at answers directed at sb and saying they don't work for your situation? o.o |
| 15:35.55 | Gnarfone | What |
| 15:36.43 | Gnarfone | No, never mind me, I'll look it up at home with a real IRC client |
| 15:37.04 | Gnarfone | "failed to connect: record overflow" :( |
| 15:38.51 | quiescens | you're probably going to get better results with X forwarding and running an up to date browser than trying some fringe, console based javascript supporting browser |
| 15:39.44 | Timmeh | compressed X-forwarding doesn't even have too bad of a performance |
| 15:40.13 | nevcairiel | but it needs a x server on your headless system! |
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| 15:40.52 | quiescens | you don't need an x server on the system you are running the application on |
| 15:41.03 | Workfoz | you need xlibs |
| 15:41.09 | Workfoz | (yay, irccloud) |
| 15:45.47 | quiescens | shrugs |
| 15:45.49 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r11724 SiegeOfOrgrimmar/Galakras.lua: Galakras: remove death event. |
| 15:47.24 | Workfoz | now to try and make Chrome use my previous profile |
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| 15:48.09 | quiescens | don't be so difficult! |
| 15:48.34 | Workfoz | worked beautifully for Firefox |
| 15:48.53 | quiescens | silly workfoz |
| 15:49.02 | quiescens | stop slacking and get to work! |
| 15:49.10 | Workfoz | this *is* work |
| 15:49.23 | Workfoz | finally got "upgraded" to Windows 7 today |
| 15:49.33 | Workfoz | read: fresh install :P |
| 15:55.51 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/AwyDO4J.png |
| 15:55.54 | Fisker | I can't be stopped Stanzilla |
| 15:56.20 | Workfoz | grrr, of course, Chrome needs to be an ass about it |
| 15:56.23 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 15:56.24 | Workfoz | replacing the profile does nothing |
| 15:59.04 | Stanzilla | yeah thats kinda annoying |
| 16:00.08 | Workfoz | is there a solution? |
| 16:01.35 | Workfoz | oh ok |
| 16:01.36 | Workfoz | lulz? |
| 16:01.42 | Workfoz | it works when you replace the folder contents |
| 16:01.46 | Workfoz | but not if you replace the entire folder |
| 16:01.47 | Workfoz | gg google |
| 16:18.28 | Stanzilla | google on a roll |
| 16:18.30 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r11725 SiegeOfOrgrimmar/KorKron.lua: KorKron: engage id |
| 16:18.32 | Stanzilla | third dev cchan update in 3 days |
| 16:19.42 | Stanzilla | getting 33 ready for beta |
| 16:20.26 | Workfoz | nooo |
| 16:20.29 | Workfoz | protect me, Stanzilla |
| 16:20.57 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 16:21.00 | Stanzilla | also why |
| 16:21.04 | Stanzilla | and from what |
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| 16:35.44 | Stanzilla | dances on Funkeh` |
| 16:36.27 | znf | leave Funkeh` alone!!!111one |
| 16:38.32 | Funkeh` | ? |
| 16:47.11 | Workfoz | I like irccloud's joins/quits/parts merging |
| 16:48.29 | Workfoz | and I can't recall if and where I stored my custom keyboard layout setup file...I'll probably have to grab it from home |
| 16:49.51 | znf | Workfoz, pretty awesome, indeed! Also, the mobile apps are the best mobile client I used |
| 16:50.49 | nevcairiel | i would close it accidentally way too often |
| 16:50.56 | nevcairiel | i'm in a habbit of closing my browser frequently |
| 16:51.24 | znf | I connected irccloud to my znc :> |
| 16:51.37 | znf | so I don't use 2 clients on whatever channels I happen to be |
| 16:51.38 | Stanzilla | I never close my browser |
| 16:55.59 | Workfoz | time to go hooome |
| 16:56.47 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r11726 SiegeOfOrgrimmar/GeneralNazgrim.lua: GeneralNazgrim: engage id. |
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| 17:43.39 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: doesn't matter, it's like a bouncer |
| 17:43.52 | Fisker | lolwut Stanzilla |
| 17:43.59 | Fisker | my windows 8.1 image still creates a local user O_o |
| 17:44.04 | Fisker | err wants to |
| 17:44.06 | nevcairiel | i know, still annoying gnarfoz |
| 17:44.21 | Gnarfoz | well, your habit is |
| 17:44.23 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 17:44.39 | nevcairiel | works for me |
| 17:44.54 | nevcairiel | I'm also happy with quassel |
| 17:44.58 | znf | like, really, who closes their browsers? O.O |
| 17:45.17 | znf | I'm at the point where a daily update annoys me :P |
| 17:47.29 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r11727 (2 files in 1 directory): bump version |
| 17:48.23 | Stanzilla | Fisker: sure does |
| 17:48.33 | Fisker | yeah |
| 17:48.37 | Fisker | Figured it out :O |
| 17:53.08 | Repo | ora3: 03funkydude 04r739-release * r739 : Tagging as r739-release |
| 17:56.20 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r11728-release * r11728 : Tagging as r11728-release |
| 18:03.01 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/NrrKa7u.png <-looks like a great time |
| 18:06.20 | Fisker | should work now |
| 18:06.26 | Fisker | this is gonna be good |
| 18:07.19 | Fisker | work is so much more fun when you're doing stuff you're not supposed to do Stanzilla |
| 18:09.54 | Gnarfoz | stahp work, Fisker, staaaahp |
| 18:12.24 | Fisker | why? |
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| 19:02.41 | Stanzilla | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2911106 good stuff |
| 19:05.22 | Fisker | hmm |
| 19:05.26 | Fisker | my image probably doesn't have those |
| 19:05.28 | Fisker | thanks a lot Stanzilla |
| 19:22.21 | znf | oh god, the blizzard raid frames are so bad ;( |
| 19:24.19 | nevcairiel | you are dps, stop caring |
| 19:25.33 | Funkeh` | uses the blizz raid frames fine |
| 19:26.05 | Funkeh` | but Im not a healer thankfully :p |
| 19:26.11 | Gnarfoz | they're even fine for healers |
| 19:26.57 | nevcairiel | never really tried to heal with them, but i guess its possible |
| 19:27.13 | nevcairiel | i used to have quite a bit of special info on them when i was still doing heroic raiding |
| 19:27.14 | znf | how do I remove the damn icons? |
| 19:27.21 | znf | debuff/buff icons |
| 19:27.27 | nevcairiel | but in lfr/flex, who cares :p |
| 19:27.38 | Funkeh` | enable dispellable debuffs only? |
| 19:27.40 | znf | and the group label |
| 19:27.47 | Funkeh` | change the sorting |
| 19:28.19 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/zgvy2c3.png <- woop Stanzilla |
| 19:33.05 | Gnarfoz | hrmmm |
| 19:33.23 | Gnarfoz | Microsoft are being assholes |
| 19:33.54 | Gnarfoz | I ordered Win 8 last year using a Microsoft account that uses an email address with a + in it |
| 19:33.56 | Funkeh` | you like the beta fish? |
| 19:34.08 | Fisker | betta fish but yes |
| 19:34.13 | Gnarfoz | but the password recovery form doesn't take email addresses with + in them |
| 19:34.27 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:34.37 | Fisker | just get the product key from the mail |
| 19:34.59 | Gnarfoz | I've got the "proceed with upgrade" shortcut on my desktop |
| 19:35.11 | Gnarfoz | I just wanted to download 8.1 before even starting |
| 19:35.20 | Fisker | You were still sent the product key |
| 19:35.23 | Gnarfoz | I know |
| 19:35.33 | Gnarfoz | what would I use it for? |
| 19:35.42 | Gnarfoz | can I attach it to another Microsoft account? |
| 19:35.48 | nevcairiel | its not like microsoft gives you a direct download of 8.1 if you find your key |
| 19:35.58 | Fisker | The key is not attached to an account as such |
| 19:36.02 | Gnarfoz | oh |
| 19:36.07 | Gnarfoz | hmm |
| 19:36.12 | Gnarfoz | maybe I'm wasting my time then |
| 19:36.21 | nevcairiel | unless you prefer keeping your account |
| 19:36.38 | Gnarfoz | I do, but then I'm sure it is actually a Microsoft account at all |
| 19:36.40 | Fisker | As long as you have your product key, there's no problem |
| 19:36.44 | Gnarfoz | maybe it's just one for ordering stuff? |
| 19:36.57 | Fisker | The storefront accounts aren't microsoft accounts no |
| 19:37.02 | Fisker | I don't believe they are atleast |
| 19:37.12 | Fisker | unless they changed it |
| 19:37.24 | Fisker | I guess it is now |
| 19:37.32 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: well, hm. that'd explain why I can't log in with this address ;p |
| 19:37.41 | Fisker | yeah |
| 19:38.01 | nevcairiel | easy to test to create a new one with the same address! |
| 19:38.09 | Fisker | It's true though |
| 19:38.21 | Fisker | microsoft accounts can't be reset with + in them :P |
| 19:38.23 | Fisker | dumbasses |
| 19:38.48 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: on my way to do that right now... I think I tried it before and it said address in use |
| 19:39.02 | znf | Funkeh`, which sorting? http://i.imgur.com/MMpY3PJ.png |
| 19:39.32 | nevcairiel | oh man znf, your UI is horribly fugly |
| 19:40.12 | znf | nevcairiel, it's just Aurora |
| 19:40.21 | znf | I'm sick of the default textures |
| 19:40.23 | nevcairiel | its still extremely unpleasant to look at |
| 19:40.36 | znf | good thing you're not the one lookin at it :) |
| 19:40.43 | nevcairiel | its just black |
| 19:40.48 | nevcairiel | who needs textures when you can have black |
| 19:41.04 | znf | I don't like the UI artwork |
| 19:41.24 | Gnarfoz | hmm |
| 19:41.33 | Gnarfoz | the sing up form doesn't accept + in the email address |
| 19:41.44 | Gnarfoz | guess I'm imagining thinks |
| 19:41.49 | Gnarfoz | *things |
| 19:41.59 | znf | if I could find a replacement for the nameplates... :-( |
| 19:43.40 | Funkeh` | untick keep groups together |
| 19:43.45 | Funkeh` | then the sorting dropdown will show |
| 19:45.14 | znf | meh, that doesn't do it for me, I still want the grouping, just don't want the label "group 1", "group 2" etc. :) |
| 19:45.18 | Fisker | or Gnarfoz |
| 19:45.25 | Fisker | It wasn't an microsoft account when you bought it :P |
| 19:46.00 | znf | should I do something else other than /script CompactRaidGroup1Title:Hide() ? |
| 19:47.07 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: hum? |
| 19:47.16 | Fisker | yeah |
| 19:47.19 | znf | also, silly question, but how do I move them? :P |
| 19:47.27 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: I created it when I bought it |
| 19:47.29 | znf | I clicked unlock, still can't move it :D |
| 19:47.41 | Gnarfoz | so I know it's not something old |
| 19:47.45 | Fisker | yeah Gnarfoz but back then it was a microsoft store account not a microsoft account |
| 19:47.54 | Fisker | would be my guess |
| 19:48.29 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 19:48.36 | Fisker | I have none of my win8 keys associated with the account |
| 19:49.19 | Gnarfoz | I guess I'm misremembering things, there are no emails in my gmail indicating I create a microsoft account |
| 19:49.38 | Gnarfoz | I'd expect they'd send the usual "Welcome to Microsoft account blah blah" email |
| 19:49.48 | Fisker | also fyi Windows Live/Hotmail = Microsoft Account |
| 19:49.55 | Gnarfoz | of course, but not the inverse |
| 19:50.06 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 19:50.14 | Gnarfoz | I have like... 3 accounts by now |
| 19:50.29 | Gnarfoz | well, if this one doesn't actually exist, maybe it's just two :P |
| 19:50.49 | Gnarfoz | my old as hell msn address and the one I used for my MS certifications |
| 19:50.57 | Fisker | I hope they bind product keys to your microsoft account |
| 19:51.06 | Gnarfoz | (didn't wanna use the msn one for that, it's micr0soft_sux_ass@hotmail.com :D) |
| 19:51.07 | Fisker | so you can get over all the bullshit upgrade keys and shit |
| 19:51.36 | Gnarfoz | if they do, they better start dealing with + addressing |
| 19:54.23 | Fisker | http://imgur.com/gallery/ibQH9 <-zomg |
| 19:55.44 | Gnarfoz | zomg indeed? why would they even do that |
| 19:55.55 | Fisker | I guess that's true :P |
| 19:56.01 | Fisker | Given that Moto actually pushes kitkat quickly |
| 19:56.04 | Gnarfoz | it's not like there's more than 3 little helper apps on the G |
| 19:56.05 | Fisker | and it's mostly stock anyway |
| 19:56.08 | Gnarfoz | exactly |
| 19:56.14 | Gnarfoz | I'm probably getting it for my mom |
| 19:58.14 | Gnarfoz | although $179 would be a bit cheaper still than the current price |
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| 20:13.46 | Stanzilla | HELLOW |
| 20:13.50 | Stanzilla | today is awesome |
| 20:14.00 | Stanzilla | our satellite dish is covered in snow |
| 20:14.02 | Stanzilla | so no TV |
| 20:14.17 | miica_ | who watch tv on nowdays anyway |
| 20:14.22 | Stanzilla | mom told me to fix it, so I went outside (in boxer shorts) |
| 20:14.31 | Stanzilla | and threw a snow ball at it |
| 20:14.41 | miica_ | how old are you if you stay with mom? |
| 20:14.42 | Stanzilla | bullseye on first try, tv works again! |
| 20:14.51 | Stanzilla | I'm 12 |
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| 20:16.22 | miica_ | so still 3years in home? :P |
| 20:16.37 | Stanzilla | nah, longer |
| 20:16.45 | miica_ | mom boy? |
| 20:16.52 | Stanzilla | and daddy boy |
| 20:17.14 | miica_ | from? |
| 20:17.41 | Stanzilla | Finland |
| 20:18.23 | miica_ | cool my friend is from Finland too |
| 20:18.40 | Gnarfoz | weak, weak |
| 20:19.22 | miica_ | Stanzilla: satana |
| 20:19.51 | Stanzilla | no, my name is santa |
| 20:20.15 | miica_ | Stanzilla: i thought that was some kind curse |
| 20:21.11 | miica_ | Stanzilla: is it? |
| 20:21.25 | Stanzilla | you lost me |
| 20:21.41 | miica_ | ? |
| 20:22.39 | Stanzilla | xylophone |
| 20:22.48 | miica_ | what is that |
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| 20:23.28 | Stanzilla | a music instrument |
| 20:23.33 | Ironi | any idea why would UNIT_DIED event trigger on hunters without the hunter actually dying? |
| 20:23.49 | stencil | feign death? |
| 20:23.50 | Ironi | FD doesn't seem to be the problem |
| 20:24.13 | Ironi | atleast when im trying it with my own hunter it doesn't trigger it |
| 20:24.32 | miica_ | Stanzilla: kinda wierd my told there isnt any snow in Finland atm :D |
| 20:24.37 | miica_ | friend* |
| 20:24.48 | Ironi | there is now :P |
| 20:26.03 | stencil | any chance it could be triggered if they have a pet die? or maybe even a guardian/minion thing like voodoo gnomes? (in which case you should also see it from rogues and monks ...) |
| 20:27.14 | Ironi | i didn't see any UNIT_DIED event when my pet died |
| 20:28.25 | Ironi | and the addon im working on is comparing unit name & unit guid from unit_died event to current rosterdb, and hunters still bug it ;P |
| 20:30.16 | stencil | hmmm ... wonder if its possible that you wouldn't get an event for your own FD but might from anothers. might want to try partying up with a hunter friend and have them FD in combat and see if it triggers it |
| 20:30.22 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/01/14/evleaks-shows-off-render-and-specs-of-alleged-nexus-10-successor-still-made-by-samsung/ |
| 20:34.37 | nevcairiel | isnt that the same guy that showed wrong infos about the n10 before |
| 20:37.45 | Stanzilla | he shows everything he gets |
| 20:37.49 | Stanzilla | if wrong or not |
| 20:37.56 | Stanzilla | mostly right though |
| 20:38.02 | Stanzilla | btw Gnarfoz got irccloud invite on first try?! |
| 20:38.26 | Ironi | it looks like FD is the reason behind fake UNIT_DIED event ;/ |
| 20:38.32 | Funkeh` | http://twister.net.co/ |
| 20:38.35 | Funkeh` | interesting |
| 20:38.36 | Ironi | from other players only tho |
| 20:38.42 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: my very dear friend znf went out of his way to get me one! I don't know how I'll ever repay him |
| 20:38.48 | Stanzilla | nice |
| 20:39.01 | Gnarfoz | is this thing for free as long as beta lasts? |
| 20:39.07 | znf | yes and no |
| 20:39.15 | znf | after 7 days it goes into "limited" functionality |
| 20:39.16 | Gnarfoz | mhhh. |
| 20:39.18 | znf | you can only use 2 networks |
| 20:39.24 | stencil | woot! can I woot that my hunch was correct without it taunting you over the fact you still have to work around that issue? :) |
| 20:39.30 | znf | and you get disconnected after 2 hours if the app is not opened (the browser or the mobile app) |
| 20:39.49 | Ironi | stencil of course you can :> |
| 20:39.51 | Stanzilla | also my condolences (sp?) to every chrome stable user |
| 20:39.55 | Stanzilla | you got owned today |
| 20:39.57 | Gnarfoz | that's fine for me, I think. I'd only use it to lurk here from work without having a super-obvious terminal open with irssi in it] |
| 20:40.14 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: the rest of us, we got owned quite a while ago? ;p |
| 20:40.25 | znf | that's why I use it with ZNC |
| 20:40.29 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 20:40.31 | znf | irccloud -> znc <- xchat |
| 20:40.52 | nevcairiel | as if i'll notice a bit of a slowdown :p |
| 20:41.28 | Gnarfoz | wish there was something like that to host yourself (like owncloud) |
| 20:41.50 | nevcairiel | SaaS is the future! |
| 20:41.51 | Stanzilla | quassel? |
| 20:42.03 | Stanzilla | or what do you mean |
| 20:42.08 | Gnarfoz | irccloud |
| 20:42.49 | Stanzilla | what's so good about it? |
| 20:42.57 | nevcairiel | why develop software that people are just going to pirate when you can instead develop a service that noone can get for free |
| 20:43.00 | znf | Stanzilla, the mobile app is awesome |
| 20:43.06 | Primer | Anyone else get a chrome update today and their chrome is now crashy as fuck? |
| 20:43.11 | Stanzilla | HAHAHAH |
| 20:43.15 | znf | laughs at Primer |
| 20:43.21 | Stanzilla | well done Primer |
| 20:43.28 | Stanzilla | you are victim #1 |
| 20:43.31 | Primer | I must have missed the memo |
| 20:43.40 | Primer | please, do tell |
| 20:43.47 | Stanzilla | short form: you're owned |
| 20:44.05 | Stanzilla | longer form: chrome is now using a new window manager that is not very stable yet |
| 20:44.18 | Gnarfoz | do aura builds still have the 'a'? |
| 20:44.21 | Primer | define "owned" |
| 20:44.24 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: no |
| 20:44.26 | stencil | owned as in hacked? virused? or just screwed until chrome gets fixed? |
| 20:44.30 | Stanzilla | Primer: you can't disable it |
| 20:44.36 | nevcairiel | mine didnt crash yet |
| 20:44.43 | nevcairiel | dont listen to Stanzilla, he likes to rant about it |
| 20:44.44 | Gnarfoz | well, I guess it's pretty stable for me then, on dev and beta |
| 20:44.45 | Primer | To me "owned" implies compromised |
| 20:44.47 | Stanzilla | owned as in you have to wait for it to mature |
| 20:44.53 | Stanzilla | yes bad wording |
| 20:44.55 | Stanzilla | sorry |
| 20:45.02 | Primer | Pretty sure I was on the stable release... |
| 20:45.04 | stencil | ahh, yeah, I'm with primer. owned is a very scary word heh :) |
| 20:45.08 | Primer | not the beta |
| 20:45.09 | Gnarfoz | you are |
| 20:45.13 | Gnarfoz | they rolled it out to stable today |
| 20:45.18 | Primer | wow |
| 20:45.23 | Primer | that's rather fail |
| 20:45.32 | Primer | is chromium at the same version? |
| 20:45.40 | Gnarfoz | no idea |
| 20:45.44 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: only because I know how this will affect many users |
| 20:45.50 | Repo | otis: 03stencil * r8 (4 files in 1 directory): |
| 20:45.51 | Repo | Adds a button to the encounter journal. When left clicked, it saves the current filtered loot spec as your preferred loot spec for that encounter and will set your loot spec for you when you fight that boss. Right clicking on the button clears the saved loot spec. |
| 20:45.56 | nevcairiel | your ranting is still rather silly |
| 20:46.00 | nevcairiel | you sound like znf |
| 20:46.02 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 20:46.10 | znf | :( |
| 20:46.43 | Primer | I don't suppose there's any way to fucking roll this back? |
| 20:46.45 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:46.52 | Primer | because I kinda use chrome for my work now |
| 20:47.00 | Stanzilla | no way back, no |
| 20:47.02 | nevcairiel | i have been using it the whole day and noticed no issues |
| 20:47.16 | Stanzilla | ^that is kinda the problem with it |
| 20:47.25 | Stanzilla | it is very random and system dependend |
| 20:47.29 | Primer | 30.0.1700.76 m |
| 20:47.32 | Primer | is what I'm on |
| 20:47.35 | Primer | err |
| 20:47.36 | Primer | 32 |
| 20:47.42 | Stanzilla | yeah that is today's release |
| 20:47.47 | Gnarfoz | I've been using dev (at home) and beta (at work) and never had a problem, either; I've been lacking the "where does this link go?" popups for a while though, not sure what's up with that |
| 20:48.11 | Gnarfoz | point is: it's intermittent, or rather, doesn't affect everyone |
| 20:48.25 | nevcairiel | could switch to beta i suppose, maybe they have fixed something :p |
| 20:49.31 | Stanzilla | Primer: linux btw? |
| 20:49.37 | znf | copy the previous chrome.dll over the new one |
| 20:49.41 | znf | dll and exe |
| 20:49.43 | znf | should work |
| 20:49.50 | Primer | Stanzilla: windows |
| 20:49.51 | znf | I used to do it so many times with Canary |
| 20:50.11 | znf | for example, I have 34.0.1783.0 and 34.0.1784.0 |
| 20:50.12 | Stanzilla | ok, because I think aura for linux is not in yet |
| 20:51.01 | Primer | thing is it runs fine |
| 20:51.07 | Primer | but dies as soon as you restart |
| 20:51.18 | Stanzilla | restart what? windows? |
| 20:51.24 | Primer | I mean, if you should ever need to restart chrome, it won't |
| 20:51.39 | Primer | it crashes right away |
| 20:51.55 | Stanzilla | while trying to recover your tabs? |
| 20:51.57 | Primer | you can nuke the User Data directory, then it'll start |
| 20:52.06 | znf | Primer, just replace the dll :P |
| 20:52.08 | nevcairiel | that doesnt sound like aurora |
| 20:52.08 | znf | from the previous version |
| 20:52.17 | Stanzilla | yeah doesn't indeed |
| 20:52.29 | Stanzilla | more like a) something in a tab happening that it tries to restore |
| 20:52.35 | Stanzilla | or b) process fuckery |
| 20:52.39 | Stanzilla | I had b yesterday |
| 20:52.42 | Primer | except there is nothing to restore |
| 20:52.44 | Stanzilla | had to kill all processes manually |
| 20:53.10 | Stanzilla | can also disable the "let chrome run apps in the background when closed" setting |
| 20:53.34 | Primer | 1) Exit chrome, 2) rm -rf %appdata%/Google/Chrome/User Data, 3) start chrome (works fine), 4) exit chrome, 5) start chrome (crash) |
| 20:54.24 | Primer | unless User Data isn't the only directory I need to remove |
| 20:54.59 | Stanzilla | try that setting |
| 20:55.50 | Primer | disabling that and now it restarts fine |
| 20:55.54 | Primer | disabled, that is |
| 20:55.57 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 20:56.07 | Stanzilla | process fuckery |
| 20:56.30 | nevcairiel | i have that on and everything is still fine, who knows |
| 20:56.41 | Stanzilla | maybe you have no apps that run in the background |
| 20:56.48 | Stanzilla | or random_reason_here |
| 20:57.17 | Primer | and now it's back to crashing |
| 20:57.29 | Primer | yup, toast |
| 20:57.46 | Stanzilla | did you nuke that folder again? |
| 20:57.53 | Stanzilla | because that also removes the setting you changed :p |
| 20:57.58 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 20:58.38 | Primer | of course not |
| 20:58.55 | Stanzilla | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Sm-DbIOqiU&feature=youtu.be < interesting video about the state of blink |
| 21:00.19 | Primer | yeah, that setting makes no difference now |
| 21:00.28 | Stanzilla | you broke it! |
| 21:02.51 | Primer | 1) wipe User Data, 2) start chrome (runs fine) 3) change that background setting 4) exit chrome 5) start chrome (crashes) |
| 21:12.50 | Primer | when chrome loads, there is this globally installed extension that keep getting added |
| 21:13.00 | Primer | which makes me wonder if that's not what's killing it |
| 21:13.08 | Gnarfoz | sounds like malware to me! :P |
| 21:15.02 | Primer | naw, it's an extension from my stupid logitech harmony remote |
| 21:15.31 | nevcairiel | harmony has a chrome extension? |
| 21:15.59 | nevcairiel | i havent installed their software for ages, since once the remote works, it works :d |
| 21:16.12 | Primer | well, I had to configure mine at one point |
| 21:16.39 | Primer | and whatever it installed ended up as a browser plugin, presumably for all browsers |
| 21:17.11 | Primer | uninstalled it, and now it's not showing up in chrome any more |
| 21:17.24 | Primer | but chrome still crashes |
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| 21:18.10 | Primer | wow, chrome uninstall ran IE to tell me it was uninstalled... |
| 21:18.32 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:20.29 | Stanzilla | that feeling of a freshly rebooted windows |
| 21:20.41 | Stanzilla | I dont think freshly is a word, is it? |
| 21:20.50 | znf | ZzzzZzzz |
| 21:21.00 | znf | Show Me Your Moves achievement is so hard for some people :( |
| 21:21.45 | Stanzilla | is that emperors? |
| 21:21.47 | Stanzilla | r |
| 21:22.58 | Primer | sigh |
| 21:23.01 | Primer | this fucking sucks |
| 21:23.23 | Primer | I just can't go back to firefox and firebug... |
| 21:24.13 | Stanzilla | http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.de/2014/01/stable-channel-update.html < first time I've seen a known issues list on their release blog? |
| 21:24.24 | Stanzilla | or well, sometimes for mobile iirc |
| 21:26.55 | znf | Stanzilla, yeah... |
| 21:29.43 | Primer | installed beta...crashes... |
| 21:32.47 | Primer | the version string is the same, except it has the word "beta" on it...lovely |
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| 21:47.17 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: it is a regular word |
| 21:53.50 | quiescens | blah |
| 21:54.25 | Gnarfoz | blah is also a regular word |
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| 21:55.37 | znf | dear god, I hate this achievement :D |
| 21:55.49 | quiescens | o.o |
| 21:56.20 | Gnarfoz | is it the emperors one? I can't tell the two MSV achievements apart |
| 21:56.38 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: haha, 1.0.1 "rev B" |
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| 22:10.42 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r11729 (5 files in 1 directory): |
| 22:10.43 | Repo | Re-add CheckBossStatus on certain bosses as a backup for the encounter events. Sometimes a START will fire straight after an END (wipe), then START won't fire for the next attempt until that attempt wipes. |
| 22:10.55 | Sintacks | stencil, wat r u doin with otis |
| 22:11.41 | Sintacks | this update sounds like one I won't be getting <.< cuz another addon for that |
| 22:13.02 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: yeh |
| 22:13.25 | stencil | hmm, well, its entirely optional |
| 22:13.46 | Sintacks | k good |
| 22:13.49 | stencil | boss pulled more in a bit |
| 22:14.42 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: @evleaks: Pulled the "Nexus 10" tweet. Was sent to multiple publications, along with slightly differing "corroborating evidence." Signs of a hoax. |
| 22:18.01 | stencil | so sin, otis won't try to be smart or optimal for you - it will only do what you tell it to. so if you never set any specs in it for bosses it will never play with your set loot spec |
| 22:23.39 | Sintacks | if you do it well enough =p i can dump the other addon that i use for it |
| 22:23.47 | stencil | hmmm - well that's annoying. switching realms (say after you kill ordos) before you've made a decision about bonus loot fires off events as if the prompt timed out and then they put it up again. of course, putting it up a second time I've lost context about exactly who you just killed. I suppose I'll keep a timer and leave a small window open in which a new bonus loot prompt is assumed to still be for the last boss seen. blech |
| 22:24.02 | stencil | heh - I'll do my best! |
| 22:24.10 | Sintacks | So that's what's wrong with habeebit |
| 22:24.16 | Sintacks | the event fires again, but it doesn't know what fight it was |
| 22:25.40 | Funkeh` | http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/stable-channel-update.html |
| 22:25.54 | Funkeh` | did they really just use w/ instead of "with" in an official release post |
| 22:26.31 | stencil | probably? I'm not familiar with that addon but they could have the same issue |
| 22:27.31 | Sintacks | sounds like it. the way it acts does exatly what you expalined |
| 22:29.18 | znf | oh dear god, that took us hour |
| 22:29.20 | znf | hours |
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| 22:52.30 | Repo | adibuttonauras: 03Adirelle 07master * 1.0-beta-23-4-gea07cbe rules/Shaman.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 22:52.32 | Repo | ea07cbe: Merge pull request #11 from ckaotik/master |
| 22:52.32 | Repo | 27eadbb: Shaman rule: Highlight + Countdown totem spells when a totem of its type is active |
| 22:58.42 | Repo | wholib: 03jaron840 * r135 LibWho-2.0/LibWho-2.0.lua: Fixed callback for offline player. Pointed to nil value |
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| 23:32.29 | Stanzilla | Fisker: arent there 8.1 isos on msdn? |
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| 23:53.29 | Repo | recount: 03elsia 04v5.4.0b release * r1252 : Tagging as v5.4.0b release |
| 23:59.10 | Stanzilla | http://forums.warcraftlogs.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3424&p=4187#p4187 |
| 23:59.20 | Stanzilla | how the hell does he get blizzard to react so quickly to such stuff |
