00:03.50 | Funkeh` | committed |
00:04.07 | Stanzilla | thanks, repo dead? |
00:04.23 | Funkeh` | I guess |
00:04.46 | Funkeh` | I suggest you test someone sending you an aura |
00:06.07 | Megalon | i killed repo |
00:06.17 | Megalon | sent him a selfdestroying aura |
00:07.24 | Stanzilla | I nominate Gnarfoz |
00:07.38 | Gnarfoz | I'm sleepy mon |
00:08.42 | Stanzilla | :D Funkeh` |
00:08.42 | Stanzilla | :D |
00:08.43 | Gnarfoz | oh wait, you have to send me something |
00:08.46 | Stanzilla | you commited to Weakauras 1 |
00:08.50 | Gnarfoz | right? |
00:09.00 | Funkeh` | fuck off |
00:09.01 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: both sides have to work |
00:09.07 | Gnarfoz | I guess |
00:09.15 | Gnarfoz | but I don't have your build (let alone wa1) |
00:09.57 | Gnarfoz | watching this dvd rip is like taking of my glasses |
00:10.03 | Gnarfoz | holy fuck I'm so used to 1080p |
00:10.09 | Stanzilla | you dont have to have wa1 |
00:10.15 | Stanzilla | Funkeh` just commited to the wrong repo |
00:10.16 | Funkeh` | why have you not turned that into an addon with a chat print |
00:10.17 | Gnarfoz | I know |
00:10.47 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: there is a chat print when you open the options I think |
00:12.33 | Funkeh` | nil out the entire addon |
00:12.33 | Repo | weakauras-2: 03funkydude * r23 Transmission.lua: |
00:12.34 | Repo | Transmission: Only accept aura transmissions from players you have requested them from by clicking the chat link. Prevents malicious spammers sending people auras and invoking a popup to accept them. |
00:12.50 | Stanzilla | thanks |
00:13.03 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: up for testing? what's your realm again? |
00:13.16 | Gnarfoz | who cares |
00:13.21 | Gnarfoz | just click my name |
00:13.30 | Gnarfoz | don't even have to |
00:13.30 | Stanzilla | wait I have to update |
00:13.35 | Gnarfoz | should work across realid |
00:13.41 | Gnarfoz | I have to update, too ;p |
00:13.48 | Gnarfoz | well, at least I should, I don't have to, technically |
00:14.01 | Gnarfoz | (that's why I even went online :P) |
00:15.19 | Funkeh` | it can't work across realid unless you're on the same realm |
00:15.27 | Gnarfoz | oh, right |
00:15.34 | Gnarfoz | does realid party suffice? |
00:15.48 | Gnarfoz | that makes us be on the same realm |
00:15.52 | Stanzilla | let's test |
00:15.59 | Funkeh` | I think it always used the WHISPER channel |
00:16.44 | Gnarfoz | hangs at "requesting display information from charname..." right now |
00:16.56 | Stanzilla | yeah then it does not work |
00:16.57 | Gnarfoz | ands says "no player namend charname is currently playing" |
00:17.11 | Stanzilla | yeah, I'll be on blackmore in a sec |
00:17.13 | Gnarfoz | well, you know what to do |
00:17.14 | Gnarfoz | ;] |
00:17.51 | Funkeh` | does it not say no player named name-server is playing? |
00:17.58 | Funkeh` | if not then that's probably another issue |
00:17.59 | Gnarfoz | nope, without the server name |
00:18.19 | Funkeh` | as you can character whisper me cross realm in your group |
00:18.21 | Gnarfoz | guess that's from before cross realm talk (let alone play) existed |
00:18.37 | Gnarfoz | but you need the full name, right? |
00:19.02 | Funkeh` | it probably isn't checking the server variable when receiving a request from a player |
00:19.12 | Gnarfoz | that's what I meant, yeah |
00:19.39 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: same, but without the "no player is currently playing" thing |
00:19.51 | Stanzilla | so it just hangs? |
00:19.54 | Gnarfoz | yep |
00:20.42 | Gnarfoz | (I'm on whatever was the most recent version monday night) |
00:21.18 | Gnarfoz | r22 |
00:21.26 | Gnarfoz | should I update? r23 just showed up |
00:21.33 | Stanzilla | r23 is Funkeh` |
00:21.36 | Stanzilla | but yeah, try |
00:21.37 | Gnarfoz | (it shouldn't matter :P it's already not working) |
00:21.47 | Gnarfoz | i.e. it shouldn't start working if I update |
00:21.51 | Funkeh` | I think you're testing it the wrong way around? |
00:22.08 | Funkeh` | stan should be receiving the aura |
00:22.21 | Gnarfoz | nah? |
00:22.27 | Gnarfoz | oh wait |
00:22.29 | Gnarfoz | what |
00:22.30 | Stanzilla | that works |
00:22.33 | Gnarfoz | man I should go to sleep instead |
00:22.40 | Gnarfoz | but it doesn't work from him to me |
00:22.50 | Stanzilla | I guess the change is not backwards compatible? |
00:23.00 | Funkeh` | uhm |
00:23.00 | Gnarfoz | I didn't look at the diff, but why would it |
00:23.06 | Funkeh` | I don't think that should make a difference |
00:23.23 | Gnarfoz | that one worked instantly, Stanzilla |
00:23.30 | Gnarfoz | did you change anything? |
00:23.34 | Stanzilla | no |
00:23.42 | Gnarfoz | and now the original one works too |
00:23.46 | Gnarfoz | what the shit |
00:23.47 | Stanzilla | maybe you sending me one added you to the trusted senders? |
00:23.53 | Gnarfoz | something like that, probably |
00:24.06 | Funkeh` | hmm |
00:24.35 | Funkeh` | yeah |
00:24.53 | Gnarfoz | hrm, svn won't take my ssh key |
00:24.54 | Gnarfoz | wtf |
00:27.15 | pompy | it knows you are sketchy! |
00:28.32 | Gnarfoz | true |
00:29.33 | Repo | weakauras-2: 03funkydude * r24 Transmission.lua: Transmission: Don't filter transmission requests. |
00:30.00 | Repo | weakauras-2: 03stanzilla * r25 WeakAurasOptions/WeakAurasOptions.lua: add save import button, hidden and non functional atm |
00:30.51 | pompy | jk jk |
00:31.01 | Gnarfoz | pencils were involved |
00:31.12 | Gnarfoz | or maybe even an etch-a-sketch |
00:31.20 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: you stay on old version, I try new now |
00:33.31 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: worked |
00:33.38 | Stanzilla | nice |
00:33.41 | Stanzilla | now you send one |
00:33.43 | Funkeh` | both of you reload then stan send Gnarfoz an aura? |
00:33.58 | Stanzilla | I reloaded, did you? |
00:34.07 | Gnarfoz | I... not sure when it was |
00:34.09 | Gnarfoz | I'll reload |
00:34.16 | Stanzilla | ok same |
00:34.18 | Stanzilla | then I send one |
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00:34.28 | Gnarfoz | ready |
00:34.49 | Gnarfoz | yep, works |
00:34.54 | Stanzilla | nice |
00:34.56 | Stanzilla | well done, Funkeh` |
00:35.06 | Funkeh` | np |
00:35.12 | Stanzilla | thank you very much |
00:36.10 | Gnarfoz | for once not hating on Stanzilla, but I find it sad that we have this kind of skill level difference within our web development team at work :( |
00:36.37 | Stanzilla | how do I relate to your web dev team? |
00:37.44 | Gnarfoz | we have several people who, compared to the "best", operate on a questionable level of proficiency |
00:37.55 | Gnarfoz | (the best in our team, that is) |
00:38.13 | Gnarfoz | hating on them, not on you :p |
00:39.43 | Gnarfoz | the worst of them exacerbate the issue by also not being good with computars |
00:40.06 | Gnarfoz | or well, the areas they really should because it's what they fucking do for a living |
00:40.33 | Gnarfoz | inheriting shitty code is one thing |
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00:41.02 | Repo | weakauras-2: 03stanzilla 042.0.3 * r26 : Tagging as 2.0.3 |
00:41.15 | Stanzilla | I'm bad at everything in life and I accepted that |
00:41.16 | Stanzilla | :) |
00:41.26 | Gnarfoz | not spending 3 minutes to remove/disable functionality that logs mistyped passwords into php's error log as plain text is a whole other level |
00:41.58 | Gnarfoz | I moved this particular pile of shit from qa/staging servers to live servers and checked the logfiles |
00:42.27 | MysticalOS | You should delete Funkeh` commit on other WA to get it off front page |
00:42.32 | Gnarfoz | 10 lines of strict errors and 2 deprecation errors from just opening the login form |
00:42.35 | Gnarfoz | >_> |
00:42.44 | Funkeh` | you mean the zip? |
00:42.54 | MysticalOS | yeah |
00:42.55 | Stanzilla | yes and yes will do |
00:43.10 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: you accidentally the whole addon |
00:43.16 | Gnarfoz | :> |
00:43.20 | Stanzilla | already 75 downloads wtf |
00:43.29 | Gnarfoz | people with curse client open + auto update |
00:43.34 | MysticalOS | curse client. people who never switched to WA2 |
00:43.35 | Gnarfoz | also, you accidentally the whole addon description, too |
00:43.44 | MysticalOS | heck I have a guildy still using WA |
00:43.47 | Gnarfoz | mirrormn might not be too happy ;P |
00:43.56 | MysticalOS | they don't want to switch to 2 because "if it works, don't fix it" |
00:44.12 | Gnarfoz | well, that's a real-world answer if there ever was one |
00:45.05 | Stanzilla | I tried to set it to abandoned |
00:45.07 | Stanzilla | but I cant |
00:45.19 | Funkeh` | that would be a bad idea |
00:45.33 | Stanzilla | why? |
00:45.37 | Funkeh` | you shouldn't just abandon it without telling people to move to the new one |
00:45.45 | Funkeh` | abandoning it removes it from curse entirely |
00:45.46 | Stanzilla | but I did that |
00:45.55 | Funkeh` | a message when you open the config, right |
00:45.58 | Stanzilla | i could also use "inactive" |
00:45.59 | Stanzilla | and yes |
00:46.07 | Funkeh` | you need to nil the entire addon and have only a print on login |
00:46.10 | Gnarfoz | that wasn't a question, Stanzilla |
00:46.12 | Gnarfoz | :P |
00:46.16 | Funkeh` | make people think "why isn't it working" |
00:46.41 | MysticalOS | i remember you doing that when you migrated old raid packages into expansion ones |
00:46.49 | Funkeh` | yes |
00:48.23 | quiescens | o.o |
00:48.38 | MysticalOS | Funkeh`, you poke at the live ENCOUNTER_* events? My guild raid wed thur and sun so I will not see til then |
00:48.59 | Funkeh` | EU isn't even patched yet |
00:49.03 | MysticalOS | oh you are EU |
00:49.08 | MysticalOS | i always thought you were US player |
00:51.24 | Gnarfoz | u wot m8? |
00:51.25 | Gnarfoz | :P |
00:52.18 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: how long ago was your wowace profile picture taken, btw? |
00:53.51 | Repo | weakauras: 03stanzilla * r310 WeakAuras.lua: |
00:53.51 | Repo | nuke main file and just print a msg on addon loaded, telling users to upgrade. |
00:54.00 | Stanzilla | there |
00:54.16 | MysticalOS | not yet |
00:54.20 | MysticalOS | tag it. |
00:54.56 | Gnarfoz | big day today ;p |
00:55.02 | Stanzilla | why |
00:55.14 | Gnarfoz | because not everyone is on alphas, why else |
00:55.23 | Stanzilla | also if chrome won't behave properly the next dev release i'm the fuck out of here |
00:55.45 | Gnarfoz | you could just run stable or beta ;p |
00:55.56 | Stanzilla | that's what I mean |
00:56.00 | MysticalOS | I'm at odds with chrome right now, especially the chrome pak blizz embeds in both BDA and wow |
00:56.03 | MysticalOS | it's so damn buggy |
00:56.04 | Gnarfoz | but that probably wouldn't satisfy your itch to get bleeding edge |
00:56.18 | Stanzilla | I always had canary installed to check stuff out |
00:56.18 | Gnarfoz | prepare for massive influx of WA2 comments on curse |
00:56.20 | Stanzilla | would be fine I guess |
00:56.25 | Gnarfoz | (if you tag) |
00:56.27 | Funkeh` | err won't that load all the other modules and error? |
00:56.43 | MysticalOS | more reason to switch Funkeh` ! |
00:56.45 | Gnarfoz | who cares, errors are good! :P (nah) |
00:56.55 | MysticalOS | not only will it tell you to upgrade, lua errors galore |
00:57.04 | Funkeh` | for the 1% that have it on |
00:57.11 | Gnarfoz | "Hey, this is broken if you haven't noticed! Upgrade!" :D |
00:57.44 | MysticalOS | and then you have to delete all the old versions off curse, so the stuborn can't roll back to earlier WA as easily |
00:57.45 | Repo | weakauras: 03stanzilla * r311 WeakAuras.toc: don't load anything but WA.lua |
00:58.22 | Repo | weakauras: 03stanzilla 041.4.7.12 * r312 : |
00:58.23 | Repo | Tagging as 1.4.7.12 - WeakAuras has been discontinued, please update to WeakAuras 2, http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/weakauras-2 |
00:58.30 | MysticalOS | Torhal still needs to talk to higher ups about having better mass delete. |
00:59.50 | Stanzilla | no need |
01:00.02 | Stanzilla | rewrite is already in progress and I'm sure they thought of that |
01:00.10 | Gnarfoz | ha |
01:00.25 | Gnarfoz | for being around that long, you're very optimistic ;p |
01:00.28 | Stanzilla | (I hope lol) |
01:02.02 | Repo | weakauras: 03funkydude * r313 (23 files in 7 directories): |
01:02.02 | Repo | Properly nuke everything so people don't need to pointlessly download a giant zip, delay the login message so it isn't hidden by addons doing many chat prints and MAKE THE MESSAGE OBVIOUS. |
01:02.08 | Stanzilla | now I need to learn on how to do tooltips |
01:02.17 | Stanzilla | lol Funkeh` |
01:02.35 | MysticalOS | F"POJSOEPWRJ:SGJSF UPGRADE YOUR SHIT !!@$!%@^$#^$#& |
01:03.27 | Stanzilla | what kind of bad voodoo is AutoCompleteInfoDelayer |
01:04.03 | Stanzilla | omg chrome dev update |
01:04.03 | Stanzilla | finally |
01:04.06 | Funkeh` | it's a function that runs a few seconds after login |
01:04.11 | Stanzilla | please be good *begs* |
01:04.45 | MysticalOS | ERROR!! ABORT, RETRY, FAIL |
01:04.48 | Gnarfoz | Google |
01:05.00 | Gnarfoz | "Anonymous Nyan Cat" is looking at my shared document |
01:05.27 | Stanzilla | damn teases |
01:05.33 | Stanzilla | blog post is up but build not on the update channel |
01:06.06 | Repo | weakauras: 03funkydude * r314 WeakAuras.toc: change the title and description. |
01:06.19 | Stanzilla | hahaha |
01:06.21 | Gnarfoz | funky going all out |
01:06.21 | quiescens | gnarfoz: spais |
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01:06.25 | Stanzilla | Funkeh` just went full retard |
01:06.33 | Funkeh` | not really |
01:06.45 | Stanzilla | full nuketard |
01:06.48 | Funkeh` | it's like "hey, this is what I want to do to WA2 but can't" |
01:06.48 | Stanzilla | updatetard |
01:06.57 | Stanzilla | haha |
01:07.09 | Gnarfoz | tbh |
01:07.11 | Funkeh` | omfg |
01:07.15 | Stanzilla | it's not a bad addon man :( |
01:07.26 | Stanzilla | just done by a weirdo and maintained by a noob |
01:07.28 | Stanzilla | that's the problem |
01:07.30 | Gnarfoz | when you said "they're doing a rewrite already", for a second I thought you were talking about WA, and it made sense in my head |
01:07.42 | Repo | weakauras: 03funkydude * r315 .pkgmeta: remove the libs... |
01:08.04 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: at least it's not powa ;] |
01:08.06 | Stanzilla | tell me when you are done |
01:08.09 | Stanzilla | I will tag again :D |
01:08.11 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: yeah |
01:08.22 | Funkeh` | I'm done |
01:08.50 | Gnarfoz | I'm not going to check out the repo, but |
01:08.56 | Gnarfoz | did you leave the SV line in the .toc? |
01:09.00 | Funkeh` | yes |
01:09.03 | Gnarfoz | k |
01:09.14 | Gnarfoz | because I'm not at all certain how Curse Client's scanner for abandoned SV's works |
01:09.38 | Gnarfoz | (hopefully by scanning for tocs with SV lines in them) |
01:10.03 | Funkeh` | pretty sure all it does is ask to remove the variables by the same name of the addon when installing |
01:10.23 | Gnarfoz | there used to be a separate cleanup wizard thing, not just when removing an addon |
01:11.15 | Gnarfoz | WA Options, almost 8 MiB >_> |
01:11.20 | Repo | weakauras: 03stanzilla 041.4.7.13 * r316 : |
01:11.20 | Repo | Tagging as 1.4.7.13. - WeakAuras has been discontinued, please update to WeakAuras 2, http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/weakauras-2 |
01:12.00 | Gnarfoz | GatherMate I can understand |
01:12.12 | Gnarfoz | TidyPlatesWidgets? wtf, 1.8 MiB |
01:12.25 | Stanzilla | tidyplates is bad |
01:12.46 | Gnarfoz | how so |
01:13.03 | Stanzilla | I always had performance problems with it |
01:13.04 | Gnarfoz | except that the whole thread-based shit hasn't worked for me in a year |
01:13.13 | Stanzilla | althoug I have to admit I didnt test it after his changes |
01:13.17 | Gnarfoz | he has the same "trick" implemented as the kui (?) guy has |
01:13.23 | Stanzilla | not the same |
01:13.26 | Gnarfoz | at least that's what... whoever said |
01:13.36 | Stanzilla | he reverted some of that because of 3rd party compat or so |
01:13.37 | Stanzilla | dunno |
01:13.40 | MysticalOS | it has good performance now |
01:13.41 | Gnarfoz | yeah, for HHTD |
01:13.49 | Gnarfoz | but I think he made it a toggle or something |
01:14.00 | Gnarfoz | don't look at me like I'm actually paying attention |
01:14.00 | Gnarfoz | : |
01:14.10 | Gnarfoz | I'm tanking with broken threat based nameplates ;p |
01:14.10 | MysticalOS | it has a toggle to disable, cause the performance changes aren't compatable with HHTD or viewports |
01:14.32 | MysticalOS | nameplates have MUCH higher performance if they anchor to UIparent instead of blizzard name plates. however, that breaks royally with viewports |
01:14.34 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: why, |
01:14.42 | Stanzilla | I would have killed myself already |
01:14.57 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: because I can't be arsed to fiddle with the options to check if it's something I configured or if the addon is just stupid |
01:15.09 | Stanzilla | cool |
01:15.28 | Gnarfoz | it keeps colouring shit that I'm tanking as "someone else (non-tank) has aggro" |
01:15.41 | MysticalOS | i used to run a modified threatplates until author finally adapted change I wanted (ie, don't parse CLEU if all features that use it are disabled) |
01:15.46 | Gnarfoz | and some times colouring stuff another tank has on him works, and some times it doesn't |
01:16.29 | MysticalOS | i don't use anything fancy, it's either green yellow or red. |
01:16.35 | Gnarfoz | tbh, it's not much of an issue - if someone really has aggro for long enough to be a problem, it was probably their fault anyway |
01:16.51 | MysticalOS | and on some fights i adjust nameplate settings for spammy mobs like herioc paragons |
01:16.52 | Gnarfoz | MysticalOS: yeah, that's all I want, too - red/blue/green (or something) |
01:17.11 | Gnarfoz | + blacklisting shit like blobs on spine of deathwing |
01:17.12 | MysticalOS | we kill rikkal 4th, and i have to tank/babysit parasites for half the fight. I give them custom color and size |
01:17.28 | Stanzilla | uh phanx has a new addon |
01:17.34 | Stanzilla | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info22653-5.4.2.15.html |
01:17.46 | Gnarfoz | nice non-pretty uris, wowi |
01:18.10 | Gnarfoz | isn't that basically libkeybound |
01:18.15 | Gnarfoz | or whatever /kb is that bartender includes |
01:18.53 | Stanzilla | probably |
01:19.00 | Gnarfoz | even if it isn't |
01:19.11 | Gnarfoz | pretty sure it's something that already existed in any case ;P |
01:19.14 | MysticalOS | i'm going to get annoyed with this and end up writing something to strip realm names from guildies |
01:19.39 | Gnarfoz | MysticalOS: with what? |
01:19.41 | Stanzilla | MysticalOS: wait they really display realm names for people on your realm? |
01:19.43 | MysticalOS | 5.4.2 made it so the online/offline alerts ALWAYS contain realm name |
01:19.46 | MysticalOS | even for your OWN realm |
01:19.49 | Stanzilla | oh fuck them |
01:20.10 | MysticalOS | most of UI is smart enough to address and filter player realm, but not the online/offline alerts |
01:21.14 | Gnarfoz | https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/410574932972544000 shamelessly stolen from the other chan |
01:21.16 | Stanzilla | stupid |
01:21.19 | Stanzilla | also HURRY UP GOOGLE |
01:21.25 | Stanzilla | yeah Gnarfoz I saw it and facepalmed |
01:21.29 | Stanzilla | hate that meme :/ |
01:21.52 | MysticalOS | http://mysticalos.com/images/MoP/realmname_in_onoff.jpg |
01:23.03 | MysticalOS | clicking on name even opens a whisper to name-realmname |
01:23.05 | MysticalOS | for your OWN realm |
01:23.11 | MysticalOS | it still sends fortunately |
01:23.35 | MysticalOS | i'm going to have to update WIM though to not screw up and start saving chat logs for same person under -realmname all of a sudden |
01:24.04 | MysticalOS | hmm, i'll look at it now, should be easy fix, i already fixed it in guild broker mod |
01:24.38 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: did you see that the VEVO up can now chromecast? |
01:24.46 | Stanzilla | s/up/app/ |
01:27.58 | MysticalOS | nice, nothing to fix. wim already strips -realm if it's stupidly added onto an outgoing whisper for someone on same realm |
01:28.43 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: nah, didn't get an update notification before you made me check |
01:29.10 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: not that I have a target decive here, got nothing with an hdmi input... but good to know it's not dead in the water, yet |
01:29.21 | Stanzilla | haha |
01:29.25 | Stanzilla | I dont have a TV either |
01:29.32 | Stanzilla | always use my parents' to test |
01:29.41 | Gnarfoz | they have chromecast ads in the US, on tv |
01:29.46 | Gnarfoz | I was like "wat" |
01:30.14 | Stanzilla | nice |
01:30.52 | Gnarfoz | but then, they also have 2-minute ads for meds, of which they spent 1.5 explaining tons of side-effects and symptoms that you should interpret as "GO SEE DOCTOR" |
01:31.02 | Gnarfoz | ("AND STOP TAKING OUR SHITTY MEDS") |
01:36.10 | Stanzilla | google tricked me |
01:37.35 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: 2008 or 2009...why? |
01:38.42 | Gnarfoz | I think you know why ;p |
01:39.16 | Gnarfoz | your hair is not at all that colour anymore =-o |
01:40.12 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: It never was. The lighting in that pic, or the camera used, made it darker/more red. |
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01:41.15 | Torhal | Though I definitely lack the gray in my beard in that photo. |
01:41.59 | Torhal | Ok, back to work - we're still in the office. |
01:50.25 | Stanzilla | Last night, on Illidan, someone named Weakauras was spamming a weakaura to anyone and everyone that included a custom trigger similar to this. I was using the beta version previous to r22 and he was able to do execute any command he wanted, and claimed he would still be able to take my gold even with the version I was using. Additionally, he was using an escape sequence, similar to "|cffff0000" th |
01:50.28 | Stanzilla | interesting |
01:50.58 | Stanzilla | "he was using an escape sequence, similar to "|cffff0000" that would cause the malicious WA to not show up on the list which made it more difficult to remove." |
01:55.50 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r11698 (11 files in 3 directories): SiegecrafterBlackfuse: Move translations to wowace. |
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01:56.50 | Funkeh` | well you can't get them anymore anyway so |
01:57.17 | Stanzilla | yeah |
01:57.56 | Stanzilla | thank you, again |
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02:14.38 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r11699 Loader.lua: tweaks |
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02:34.40 | Repo | weakauras-2: 03funkydude * r27 Transmission.lua: |
02:34.42 | Repo | Filter out aura links sent by players not in our group or guild. |
02:37.28 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: filter out = block? |
02:37.42 | Funkeh` | = don't even see |
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02:38.02 | Stanzilla | yeah well that's what I wanted to add the option for |
02:38.24 | Funkeh` | wel its not ready for tagging it needs to check real id also |
02:38.29 | Funkeh` | but I'm eating now |
02:38.34 | Stanzilla | just saying |
02:38.40 | Funkeh` | and also needs testing |
02:38.42 | Stanzilla | what you eating? |
02:38.49 | Stanzilla | I just attacked my advent calendar |
02:38.51 | Funkeh` | a sandwhich |
02:38.57 | Stanzilla | with haaam? |
02:39.30 | quiescens | why did you attack your calendar? |
02:39.38 | Stanzilla | because I wanted chocolate |
02:39.43 | quiescens | o.o |
02:39.45 | Funkeh` | corned beef, olives, cheese |
02:39.54 | Stanzilla | not bad |
02:40.03 | Stanzilla | do you guys have lindt chocolate in the uk? |
02:40.09 | Funkeh` | yup |
02:40.29 | Stanzilla | their advent calender is the best |
02:40.31 | Stanzilla | so good |
02:41.14 | MysticalOS | lol rolling restarts, tons of new bugs. that's amusing |
02:41.26 | MysticalOS | bugs, like 10 man getting 3 battle rezes |
02:41.31 | Stanzilla | MysticalOS: any cool bugs? |
02:41.35 | Stanzilla | lol |
02:41.40 | MysticalOS | that one could be fixed already |
02:41.54 | MysticalOS | since it'd just need an instance soft reset |
02:42.26 | quiescens | you should just buy a block of chocolate |
02:42.27 | Funkeh` | probably something they changed with flex |
02:42.27 | quiescens | \o/ |
02:42.32 | Funkeh` | flex gets a flat out 3 resses |
02:42.37 | quiescens | instead of eating a calendar |
02:42.42 | Funkeh` | so maybe they fixed that to be dynamic and fucked up 10man at the same time |
02:42.58 | Stanzilla | quiescens: you are obviously not familiar with that tradition |
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02:43.38 | Funkeh` | if they do change flex resses they better not use their damn random percentage nonsense |
02:43.51 | Funkeh` | otherwise bRez is fucked |
02:43.56 | Stanzilla | 50% chance to get one extra! |
02:43.59 | Stanzilla | hahah |
02:44.28 | Funkeh` | how many resses do we have? FUCK KNOWS! lets roll a dice and see |
02:45.59 | Stanzilla | I'd love that |
02:46.12 | Stanzilla | quick, an extra rez just procced, let's kill shit! |
02:47.50 | quiescens | what are flex resses? o.o |
02:48.12 | Funkeh` | the amount of battle resses you can use in flexible raiding mode |
02:49.36 | quiescens | isee |
02:58.29 | Repo | weakauras-2: 03funkydude * r28 Transmission.lua: |
02:58.29 | Repo | copy over the realid checking from badboy to allow aura links from realid friends not in your group/guild. |
02:58.45 | Funkeh` | there, you can add an option to that if you want though I don't see a point |
02:59.21 | MysticalOS | can you add an option to have WA2 automatically move my chair out of fire? |
02:59.28 | MysticalOS | char* |
02:59.36 | MysticalOS | although my chair probably shouldn't be in fire either |
02:59.59 | Funkeh` | it might be a fiery chair |
03:00.12 | Funkeh` | extra warmth |
03:02.06 | znf | I should make a weakaura with simply a text like "are you a retard? why are you importing auras from strangers?!" and share it on /2 |
03:03.29 | Funkeh` | I was going to say public channels aren't even scanned but evidently they are |
03:03.38 | Funkeh` | shall I remove that also Stanzilla ? |
03:03.55 | znf | you should |
03:06.51 | Repo | ouro-guild-alts: 03Farmbuyer * r29 (2 files in 1 directory): Added tag 5.4.2 for changeset 84fb830572f4 |
03:06.51 | nebula169_ | oh hey, patch makes UnitName always return realm |
03:06.51 | Repo | My brilliant future-looking preparation for a surprise bugfix in patch |
03:06.51 | Repo | 5.4.2 was defeated by my humiliating failure to read the API docs without |
03:06.51 | Repo | introducing typos. Le sigh. |
03:06.56 | nebula169_ | thats kind of annoying |
03:08.19 | Funkeh` | why? |
03:08.37 | Funkeh` | oh god everyone will be treated as foreign |
03:08.39 | MysticalOS | i'm not seeing that nebula169 |
03:09.18 | MysticalOS | it's only returning realm if they are on a different realm |
03:11.36 | Funkeh` | maybe he means GetUnitName |
03:14.09 | nebula169 | yea, i'm not sure what i mean, i just logged on and see Name-Realm everywhere |
03:14.12 | Repo | weakauras-2: 03funkydude * r29 Transmission.lua: Don't check public channels for aura links (gen/trade). |
03:14.32 | MysticalOS | they are definitely putting realm name in more places |
03:15.00 | MysticalOS | GuildRosterInfo now ALWAYS returns realm name in name field, instead of just for off realm like it was in 5.4.1 |
03:15.12 | Semlar | which is somewhat annoying |
03:15.15 | MysticalOS | made my broker ugly, i had to add stripping |
03:15.57 | Semlar | i always support stripping |
03:17.12 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r11700-release * r11700 : Tagging as r11700-release |
03:25.41 | nebula169 | oh, i suppose the guild realm name thing is for the connected realms, but does change anything? seems like a silly change |
03:26.53 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: I wanted it so that it accepts auras from everywhere if the setting is off and only from friends/raid/guild when on |
03:27.35 | nebula169 | if you want someone to send you stuff just add them to your flist |
03:27.37 | Funkeh` | up to you but seems pointless to me |
03:28.18 | Stanzilla | did you check for normal friend, too or only rl id freind? |
03:35.33 | Funkeh` | real because normal can be icky when using addons like badboy_levels |
03:35.50 | Funkeh` | plus no on uses normal anymore and it will only go down without crossrealm support |
03:35.58 | Stanzilla | mkay |
03:37.50 | Stanzilla | I could go test with znf |
03:38.08 | Funkeh` | with what servers |
03:38.13 | Stanzilla | ptr |
03:38.16 | Stanzilla | or is that down? |
03:38.23 | Funkeh` | oh, dunno |
03:39.35 | Stanzilla | they pulled the chrome update :< |
03:41.29 | Funkeh` | oh I forgot it's windows updates day |
03:42.05 | Stanzilla | yeah was like 33 updates for me |
03:42.41 | Funkeh` | 13 |
03:43.52 | Stanzilla | no office, I guess? |
03:45.59 | Stanzilla | znf: wake up |
03:46.21 | Funkeh` | no |
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04:01.19 | Repo | angry-assignments: 03Ermads 07master * v0.4.2-2-g1bba309 (2 files in 1 directory): [+9 commits] (5 truncated) |
04:01.20 | Repo | 1bba309: Updated changelog |
04:01.20 | Repo | 2d37c40: Attempted 5.4.2 fix |
04:01.20 | Repo | 071730b: Updated changelog |
04:01.20 | Repo | 16e061a: Set minimize window size |
04:01.39 | Repo | angry-assignments: 03Ermads 04v0.4.3 * 47dc259 /: [new tag] Tagging as v0.4.3 |
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04:10.37 | MysticalOS | hmm i'm already getting reports. encounter_start is going to be ackward in RP bosses |
04:11.00 | MysticalOS | it seems to fire at START of RP, so it won't be usuable on fights that have longer rp first pull and shorter second pulls |
04:11.11 | MysticalOS | messes up timers |
04:11.31 | MysticalOS | if it lacks consistency it's garbage |
04:14.19 | bluspacecow | i see the help button move to game menu haters in general |
04:15.06 | bluspacecow | whats the chance blizzard will change it back to how it was and put the store in the game menu :P |
04:15.18 | Stanzilla | I never used the button |
04:15.22 | Stanzilla | always /gm |
04:15.37 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
04:15.44 | bluspacecow | *A stanzilla appears in game* |
04:15.45 | bluspacecow | :3 |
04:19.53 | quiescens | panic! |
04:20.17 | Stanzilla | the retard is strong in you today |
04:20.28 | quiescens | o.o |
04:22.16 | bluspacecow | but he's our retard |
04:22.24 | bluspacecow | *puts quiescens gently* |
04:22.35 | quiescens | dies. |
04:22.50 | bluspacecow | pats even! |
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04:25.01 | Torhal | Funkeh`: So I just learned that we're not changing the newline behavior of the editor...HOWEVER, if you hold shift when you hit enter it behaves as it should normally. Urk. |
04:25.24 | Torhal | I should likely go home now. Might actually get sleep tonight. |
04:25.39 | bluspacecow | *jumps in with Torhal* |
04:25.44 | bluspacecow | *wags tail happily* |
04:25.48 | bluspacecow | *farts* |
04:26.06 | Torhal | sets everything on fire and jumps out of a window. |
04:26.21 | bluspacecow | dangerous with all that gas about |
04:27.05 | Repo | ora3: 03nebula169 * r714 modules/Invite.lua: Invite: fix guild invites in 5.4.2 |
04:27.28 | Sintacks | nebula169, what was wrong with them? |
04:28.21 | nebula169 | UnitInParty/UnitInRaid/UnitIsUnit return nil if given Name-Realm of someone on the same realm |
04:29.21 | nebula169 | and GetGuildRosterInfo always returns the realm name now |
04:33.34 | Semlar | if you're using their name as a unit id you have to exclude the realm name |
04:34.24 | nebula169 | well you kind of need it for crz stuff, but yes, it wasn't an issure for guild related functions until now because they assumed you were on the same server |
04:34.47 | nebula169 | rather, for passing units from guild related functions |
04:35.30 | Semlar | i mean if the unit is in your group you exclude the realm |
04:36.31 | nebula169 | huh? you don't know the person is in your group until you check for it |
04:39.09 | Semlar | you said UnitInParty/UnitInRaid would fail if given the realm |
04:40.05 | Semlar | that's because if they're in your group their unit id is JUST their name |
04:41.15 | nebula169 | so if you look at the context of what i was talking about, you'd realize i was getting names from the guild roster, not raid roster |
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04:42.12 | quiescens | lies |
04:42.13 | Semlar | does it matter? the unit id will only ever be valid if they're in your group |
04:43.05 | nebula169 | it does matter, because if they're in your group from your server and pass UnitInGroup("Name-Realm") it'll return nil. |
04:43.49 | Semlar | name-realm is never a valid unit id, you can't use any of the functions with that format |
04:43.55 | nebula169 | false |
04:44.50 | Semlar | i get the class of units in my group for my nameplates and you have to leave their realm off regardless of what server they're on or it will fail |
04:45.10 | nebula169 | they're only invalid for people from your realm |
04:45.15 | Semlar | there is no point in ever including the server name |
04:45.24 | Semlar | because it always works without it |
04:45.45 | nebula169 | so, why would you spend time stripping it from cleu events? or GetRaidRoster? |
04:46.00 | nebula169 | you can just pass the full name as the unit |
04:46.53 | Semlar | depending on the situation if you're looking at a performance hit, the names would be cached and you wouldn't be calling it repeatedly anyway |
04:49.11 | Semlar | and god dammit blizzard didn't put a sanity check in here so the raid browser can throw an error if partyMembers comes back nil |
04:51.03 | Semlar | if SearchLFGGetResults is called on an index that no longer exists all of the values are nil, it doesn't check for that and goes on to compare some of the values with numbers |
04:53.09 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
04:53.35 | Repo | ora3: 03nebula169 * r715 oRA3.lua: |
04:53.35 | Repo | strip realm names for people on the same realm in the guild member list |
04:56.10 | Semlar | you also don't appear to be able to send whispers to people cross-realm |
04:56.29 | Semlar | unless you're actually coalesced with them |
04:58.51 | Semlar | must be spam prevention or something |
04:59.20 | MysticalOS | i'm confused here |
04:59.34 | MysticalOS | it won't let me use tonumber, because it expects it to be used on a number? |
04:59.52 | MysticalOS | why would I tonumber a number? |
05:00.43 | nebula169 | to coerce a string to a number, duh |
05:01.04 | nebula169 | also, works fine for me |
05:01.15 | MysticalOS | i absolutely cannot get it to turn build number into a number |
05:01.15 | Semlar | works for me |
05:01.24 | Semlar | well that's because it's not a number |
05:01.59 | MysticalOS | select(2, GetBuildInfo()) is a string, tonumber should make it a number no? |
05:02.05 | Semlar | it has multiple decimals in it? |
05:02.36 | nebula169 | tonumber((select(2, GetBuildInfo()))) => 17658 |
05:03.10 | nebula169 | if you don't wrap it in () it'll return the next two parts, too |
05:03.22 | MysticalOS | ah |
05:03.22 | nebula169 | second arg is base |
05:03.32 | nebula169 | which needs to be a number :p |
05:04.10 | MysticalOS | this is why I work on DBM and not bigwigs. Coding for dummies. :) |
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05:23.55 | Torhal | MysticalOS: I'mma tell Tandanu you said that. |
05:27.07 | nebula169 | pfft, like dbm would be anything without MysticalOS :p |
05:27.51 | Torhal | He's still tied to a bunch of random retardation simply due to the name. If he'd just break off on his own he'd have things much easier. |
05:28.02 | Torhal | Well, except for the whole points thing... |
05:28.04 | Torhal | :D |
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05:36.32 | MysticalOS | if i forked it, the users would follow, cause DBM would die |
05:36.56 | Torhal | You know better than that. |
05:37.04 | Torhal | It would be Cartographer all over again. |
05:37.15 | Torhal | Sure, you'd get some, but look what happened with WeakAuras. |
05:37.34 | MysticalOS | people use the old version until it reaks, true. but that's one tier |
05:37.39 | MysticalOS | with a boss mod |
05:37.43 | MysticalOS | breaks* |
05:37.48 | Torhal | Eh, yah. |
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05:52.43 | Semlar | updates are for chumps |
05:58.52 | nebula169 | <PROTECTED> |
06:03.45 | quiescens | \o/ |
06:09.10 | Torhal | encases nebula169 in carbonite. |
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06:16.51 | bluspacecow | *does a fanupdate of nebula169* |
06:17.00 | bluspacecow | Sexy Redhead Fan Update go go go ! |
06:18.38 | Sintacks | updates bluspacecow |
06:18.50 | bluspacecow | gasp! |
06:21.44 | quiescens | o.o |
06:25.06 | Sintacks | haha. reading buffer.. nebula169 and Semlar fighting about name-server from one thing i asked |
06:25.07 | Sintacks | dat's funneh |
06:25.48 | Repo | wim-3: 03mysticalos * r390 (3 files in 2 directories): GuildRosterInfo Fixes for 5.4.2 |
06:26.57 | Sintacks | mmmmm |
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06:29.45 | MysticalOS | Someone just sent me a PM asking me where you get heroic gear from |
06:29.58 | MysticalOS | I told him "in herioc" |
06:30.19 | quiescens | herioc? |
06:42.58 | bluspacecow | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
06:43.00 | bluspacecow | HERLOC |
06:47.36 | MysticalOS | Got more confirmation, ENCOUNTER_START definitely fires at the START of RP, which means it's kind of crap to use on galakras, and spoils |
06:47.46 | MysticalOS | you can make it work on norushen because the RP never changes there |
06:48.03 | MysticalOS | but galakras and spoils, have variable RP depending on both faction AND if it's first pull or not |
06:48.28 | MysticalOS | I'd rather have one set of start combat timers, not 4. thanks blizzard for bang up job :\ |
06:50.41 | nevcairiel | RP? :? |
06:51.39 | bluspacecow | .... |
06:51.53 | bluspacecow | I see "RP" and "bang up job" and think Moonguard |
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08:25.53 | nebula169 | aaand WoL doesn't support the new combatlog format, if only warcraft logs had ranking finished! |
08:27.46 | nevcairiel | who cares about ranks this late into content# |
08:28.17 | nebula169 | its what keeps it interesting! padding that shit like a motherfucker |
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08:33.12 | Repo | e6be448: Use a dedicated frame to watch the mouseover unit. |
08:33.12 | Repo | 8b18ada: Added :IsDeclaredMessage, that allows to get rid of an ugly hack in Overlays.lua. |
08:33.12 | Repo | 2a6126f: Overlays: fixed a typo which prevented mouseover to work. |
08:33.12 | Repo | bbe8bb1: RuleDSL: added a human-readable string for "hint" highlight. |
08:33.33 | Repo | adibuttonauras: 03Adirelle 041.0-beta-18 * 1a57e7f /: [new tag] A lot of new goodies. |
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08:39.29 | sb | morning |
08:40.48 | sb | Stanzilla: http://forum.teamspeak.com/showthread.php/55830-On-Todo-Suggestion-IPv6 - i asked 3 years ago :D |
08:42.33 | nevcairiel | admittedly ipv6 is still rather unimportant, as sad as that is |
08:43.22 | nevcairiel | although its weird that they need to explicitly support it, i figured they would use Qt functions for that |
09:12.53 | wink | lol @ ipv6 |
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09:40.32 | sb | nevcairiel: maybe some database stuff (small fields) |
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10:11.13 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: uhh, if I had to pick (for TS), v6 is certainly more important than ssl |
10:11.51 | Gnarfoz | there's several non-small ISPs now who do dual stack lite |
10:12.36 | Gnarfoz | (ssl should be a fucking no-brainer, I can dig that they might take a bit longer for v6... but they suck, so both are going to take years) |
10:12.47 | sb | all cable provider in germany :D |
10:12.52 | sb | +s |
10:12.58 | nevcairiel | what does dual stack lite even mean? they ran out of ipv4 so they nat you? |
10:13.03 | sb | yup |
10:13.04 | Gnarfoz | yes |
10:13.08 | sb | native v6 + natted v4 |
10:13.11 | Gnarfoz | ^ |
10:13.28 | nevcairiel | lucky me not using a bad isp then! |
10:13.51 | sb | but (at least for KabelBW) you can call them and tell that you need access to your IP-based cameras and stuff and they will give you real dualstack |
10:14.02 | nevcairiel | i have no clue if all the stuff i need to reach from the outside does ipv6 yet, not to mention if everywhere i need to access it i would have v6 :D |
10:14.21 | Gnarfoz | sb: but do they do that for new customers, too? :D or are old ones not being migrated anyway |
10:14.44 | sb | Gnarfoz: i told them that i want to have v6 and got dualstack |
10:15.14 | sb | few months later i told them that i need to access my ipv4 hardware from the interwebs -> dual stack |
10:15.23 | sb | so yup, should work for new customers |
10:15.45 | wink | actually for pure ipv6 I'd me most concerned about games |
10:16.00 | wink | surfing the web I could possibly nat myself if need be |
10:16.01 | nevcairiel | i wonder when telekom is going to roll out ipv6 for all customers |
10:16.08 | sb | wow was fine actually (v4 natted, v6 sucks because of stupid blizzard/telia routing) |
10:16.14 | nevcairiel | right now only the IP-only VOIP users get it |
10:16.31 | wink | I'm still scared a little |
10:16.41 | wink | not even the nerds fully grasped and adopted v6 |
10:16.45 | nevcairiel | natted works for most cases |
10:17.12 | nevcairiel | unless your software wants to poke a hole into the firewall with something like upnp for implicit server hosting like some games start to do |
10:18.05 | nevcairiel | on the one hand having a real external routed IP on every system will be neat |
10:18.14 | nevcairiel | on the other hand, it also means i need to setup firewalls :P |
10:21.49 | wink | yup |
10:21.56 | wink | and again, windows sucks |
10:22.25 | wink | I have no problems putting any linux box without a packet filter on a public ip, be it v4 or v6 |
10:22.34 | wink | and on windows I wouldn't even trust the ms firewall |
10:22.53 | nevcairiel | the MS firewall is ok for blocking incoming connections |
10:22.57 | nevcairiel | outgoing its a bit weir |
10:22.59 | nevcairiel | weird* |
10:23.12 | wink | I don't care for outgoing. I won't get any malware if it's not incoming :P |
10:23.39 | nevcairiel | although you need to find your way into the advanced config mode, the simple dialog is stupid |
10:24.39 | wink | then again "every device got its own ipv6" is only awesome in theory |
10:24.55 | wink | I still haven't foudn the need, I can manage with a few port forwardsq uite well at home |
10:25.13 | nevcairiel | same really |
10:25.23 | wink | and I don't have my self-hosted DMZ anymore |
10:25.30 | wink | no rack space in the flat :P |
10:25.40 | wink | was easier with a big cellar at my parents' house |
10:26.14 | wink | so right now I only have a rpi running. and maybe a NAS at some time |
10:26.26 | wink | i.e. 2-4 ports for ssh and http(s) |
10:26.31 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
10:26.46 | wink | what for? |
10:28.19 | haste | sane firewall and routing for home network without the need of a rack :) |
10:28.33 | wink | hehe ok |
10:28.43 | wink | maybe I put it wrong |
10:28.54 | wink | it was big towers and not pizza boxes |
10:28.56 | mitch0 | I heard good things about microtic routers, too |
10:28.59 | haste | only sad thing we've found about it is that it can't handle OpenVPN for us |
10:29.10 | wink | I'm happy with my fritzbox for now |
10:29.26 | haste | CPU maxes out at around 20mbit traffic if it does the encryption |
10:29.30 | wink | without a static IP I don't really need a decent server at home |
10:31.16 | sb | edgemax doesnt support dhcpv6-PD :| |
10:32.08 | sb | http://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX/DHCPv6-Prefix-Delegation-Support/td-p/384936/page/2 - if they implement this i will replace my fritzbox |
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10:33.30 | wink | http://geizhals.at/de/?fs=edgemax -> Black&Decker EMax42i Compact&Go Elektro-Rasenmäher |
10:33.32 | wink | yeah, right |
10:33.46 | haste | wink: doesn't the dhcp server they use support it? |
10:34.00 | haste | you can always override configurations by hand through ssh |
10:34.12 | haste | we had to do it for our VPN routing |
10:34.41 | haste | but that was solved in the last update, so it can actually be solved through the interface |
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10:40.01 | wink | haste: hu? what dhcp? |
10:40.09 | wink | but funny you just mentioned edgemax |
10:40.22 | wink | while I had the site open because we just ordered some UniFis |
10:40.42 | wink | and I hadn't seen the top navi :P |
10:41.06 | haste | unifi's are nice, we have two of the 5GHz APs as well :P |
10:41.22 | haste | I don't remember exactly what the problem was, but it was routing related |
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12:33.41 | Aiue | gives cookie a quiescens |
12:45.10 | Repo | bosseskilled: 03wT- * r16 (4 files in 1 directory): Added tag v1.3.3 for changeset ab997399c2da |
12:45.11 | Repo | v1.3.3: Add the addon table to the global scope so any of the things mentioned |
12:45.11 | Repo | in the last update are actually possible (oops), plus added some comments and stuff |
13:02.21 | Funkeh` | damn raid finder is awesome |
13:02.25 | Funkeh` | so many people using it already |
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13:04.47 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, gonna remove your parental controls hax? |
13:05.28 | Sintacks | y u remove ability to link auras in trade :( |
13:05.34 | nevcairiel | did they fix it? |
13:06.41 | oscarucb | yes they fixed it |
13:07.31 | nevcairiel | might as well remove it then |
13:09.09 | oscarucb | awesome how they never officially acknowledged the problem, or even listed it as a bug fix in the release notes |
13:09.28 | oscarucb | despite the fact it broke dozens of addons |
13:10.07 | nebula169 | api changes are rarely (ever?) listed |
13:10.27 | nebula169 | the addon/macro forum usually has a sticky about them, though |
13:12.34 | Repo | ora3: 03funkydude 04r716-release * r716 : Tagging as r716-release |
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14:38.03 | sb | Funkeh`: is it cross-language? |
14:38.16 | nevcairiel | doutbful |
14:38.19 | sb | meh :| |
14:38.20 | Repo | atlas_arena: 03arith * r51 (15 files in 3 directories): * 1.5.04 (2013/12/11) |
14:38.20 | Repo | <PROTECTED> |
14:38.20 | Repo | <PROTECTED> |
14:38.40 | Funkeh` | not sure |
14:38.44 | Funkeh` | Ive seen russians in groups |
14:38.55 | nevcairiel | russians are special, they kinda group with the english one |
14:39.02 | nevcairiel | but german was usually seperate in itself |
14:39.09 | nevcairiel | same pool of people you get in LFD rally |
14:39.32 | nevcairiel | really* |
14:39.39 | sb | :( |
14:42.45 | Repo | atlas_arena: 03arith * r52 .pkgmeta: update pkgmeta |
14:43.38 | Repo | atlas_arena: 03arith 04v1.5.04 * r53 : Tagging as v1.5.04 |
14:43.56 | sb | so its still OQ |
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14:48.05 | Funkeh` | not really |
14:48.17 | Funkeh` | group finder is buzzing with people |
14:49.08 | nebula169 | people can list themselves with the different categories and you can make groups from it without being realid friends, yea? |
14:49.13 | nebula169 | i haven't really used it yet |
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15:09.51 | nevcairiel | pretty much yes |
15:10.09 | nevcairiel | and it apparently sends ilvl information, even if default UI doesnt show that |
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15:17.16 | Repo | saved_instances: 03oscarucb * r363 SavedInstances.lua: ticket 145: avoid some unnecessary taint |
15:17.21 | Repo | New addon: PhanxBind - http://www.wowace.com/addons/phanxbind/ |
15:19.39 | Stanzilla | hi |
15:22.12 | nevcairiel | hihi |
15:23.10 | quiescens | hihihi? |
15:25.03 | Chosi | hi^4 |
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15:26.06 | Stanzilla | hi5 |
15:26.52 | quiescens | o/ |
15:27.25 | Stanzilla | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLj9yZQqgMg#t=40 |
15:27.40 | Stanzilla | meh, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLj9yZQqgMg |
15:27.57 | Repo | jebus-mail: 03jebus905 * r141 JebusMail.lua: JebusMail: |
15:27.59 | Repo | - Guild list should no longer contain the server name |
15:28.19 | Repo | jebus-mail: 03jebus905 04v5.4h * r142 : JebusMail: |
15:28.19 | Repo | - Guild list should no longer contain the server name |
15:34.25 | Stanzilla | oh man, even the guild list now shows the realm |
15:34.27 | Stanzilla | so baad |
15:34.52 | sb | why bad? |
15:35.04 | Stanzilla | because I know which realm my guildies are on? |
15:35.07 | sb | no |
15:35.15 | sb | virtual realms |
15:35.16 | nevcairiel | because its the same fucking realm that you are on? :P |
15:35.22 | sb | guildes could be from some other server |
15:35.29 | sb | guildies |
15:35.29 | nevcairiel | could still hide it for people from your server |
15:35.30 | Stanzilla | but it shows for teh same realm |
15:35.31 | nebula169 | does it matter tho? |
15:35.33 | nevcairiel | since thats the most common case |
15:35.42 | sb | right |
15:36.01 | nebula169 | suppose you'd need that info for mailing and such |
15:36.05 | Stanzilla | nebula169: ui clutter |
15:36.06 | nevcairiel | probably a two line change or so, might put it in my code-snippet addon |
15:36.21 | nevcairiel | nebula169: i sure hope you dont need it for mailing on the same real realm |
15:36.25 | nebula169 | Stanzilla: the first thing i did was remove that shit from my guild broker :p |
15:36.31 | Stanzilla | see |
15:36.41 | nebula169 | nevcairiel: was talking about mailing to people in your guild on another connected server |
15:36.51 | quiescens | virtual realms? o.o |
15:36.53 | nebula169 | sounds annoying |
15:37.07 | quiescens | they should just make it all one big realm~! |
15:37.07 | nevcairiel | auto complete works for guildies? |
15:37.43 | nevcairiel | wonder if they'll connect my new realm soonish |
15:38.04 | nevcairiel | the AH is usually deserted, especially in leather raw material, it didnt have one piece of exotic leather last week :p |
15:38.05 | quiescens | they already stopped selling win7? |
15:38.15 | oscarucb | I don't see realm names in the default UI GuildRoster |
15:38.27 | oscarucb | but they did change some of the Roster API returns |
15:38.41 | nebula169 | probably just strip it then |
15:38.59 | nebula169 | ~framexml |
15:39.00 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, framexml is Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console or open 'World of Warcraft.app' --args -console after game loads press ~ and enter commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
15:39.29 | oscarucb | what I was getting at is are you using a roster addon |
15:40.42 | oscarucb | eg http://wowpedia.org/API_GetGuildTradeSkillInfo they inserted a new playerNameWithRealm return value |
15:41.37 | oscarucb | so roster addons need to be updated |
15:41.51 | nebula169 | GetGuildRosterInfo just returns Name-Realm for everyone |
15:42.05 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: I hope so, but other realms have bigger problems and I guess they come first |
15:42.59 | Stanzilla | meh |
15:43.04 | Stanzilla | auto complete is broken for real |
15:43.05 | Stanzilla | :( |
15:43.22 | oscarucb | GuildRosterFrame is not showing realm on my UI, no roster mods |
15:43.52 | nebula169 | oh hey, there's a UnitFullName(unit) api that returns "Name-Realm" now |
15:44.17 | nebula169 | oscarucb: another new function Ambiguate(unit, type) to format a full name |
15:44.21 | quiescens | pats stanzilla |
15:44.40 | quiescens | someone will fix it some day |
15:45.09 | oscarucb | so it only displays if there are two with the same name? |
15:46.08 | nebula169 | nah, like Ambiguate("Neb-Server", "guild") just returns "Neb" |
15:46.46 | oscarucb | well it seems the stock roster is displaying the ambiguated version |
15:46.51 | nebula169 | yes |
15:47.11 | quiescens | is ambiguate a word? |
15:48.50 | Semlar | if you make ambiguous a verb |
15:49.07 | Funkeh` | nebula169, is it Lua or C? |
15:49.08 | Repo | saved_instances: 03oscarucb * r364 (2 files in 1 directory): fix minimap icon toggle |
15:49.14 | nebula169 | Funkeh`: c |
15:49.20 | Funkeh` | :o |
15:52.07 | Stanzilla | I think chatter does not even look at names for tab complete |
15:52.17 | Stanzilla | it only searches for words that happened in chat, that can be names, too |
15:52.45 | Stanzilla | or I'm just confused (99% chance) |
15:55.10 | Stanzilla | hrm local tab = mod.db.realm.names[name] or local_names[name] |
15:55.57 | Repo | broker_oqueue: 03ethancentaurai 04v1.2 * 05a3362 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.2 |
16:03.33 | sb | bnet client updates are just stupid :| updating while standing in a void zone -> dead |
16:03.49 | sb | (void zone as in garrosh whirling corruption thingies) |
16:06.38 | Stanzilla | hrm something changed about fonts |
16:07.09 | Stanzilla | NAMEPLATE_FONT is super small now |
16:09.04 | Semlar | maybe you just got bigger |
16:09.18 | Torhal | embiggens Semlar. |
16:09.22 | Semlar | not again! |
16:09.45 | Repo | broker-calendar: 03dridzt * r63 calendar.lua: - CalendarCloseEvent() not needed in 5.4.2 |
16:10.12 | Torhal | It's a perfectly cromulent word. |
16:11.23 | Semlar | resplendent |
16:11.50 | Torhal | Stop being pernicious. |
16:12.20 | Semlar | i will do no such thing |
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16:19.16 | Torhal | Funkeh`: Did you get my message earlier, about the editor on Curse? |
16:21.29 | Stanzilla | name = strsplit("-", name, 2) for the win |
16:23.44 | Megalon | That's rude, Stanzilla |
16:24.10 | Megalon | y u hatin on mary-kate |
16:25.30 | Repo | broker-calendar: 03dridzt * r64 (2 files in 1 directory): - Cosmetic change to the date/time column |
16:30.10 | Funkeh` | who? |
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16:46.41 | Repo | chatter: 03Stanzilla 07master * 1.4.4-3-g19c44c5 Modules/PlayerNames.lua: [+1 commit] remove pre 5.0 compat. |
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16:55.33 | znf | wth is with this thing that every addon displays char names with their realm names? |
16:55.33 | znf | :-/ |
17:01.13 | Repo | saved_instances: 03oscarucb * r365 (2 files in 1 directory): better fix to last |
17:02.11 | Repo | professionsvault: 03oscarucb * r531 ProfessionsVault.lua: fix minimap toggle |
17:03.20 | nevcairiel | so i start battle.net client, and it decides to upadte hearthstone before wow |
17:03.26 | nevcairiel | that thing needs to learn its priorities |
17:03.29 | Stanzilla | :D |
17:04.05 | nevcairiel | at least pausing the update made it do the other one immediately |
17:05.33 | znf | So, any "fix" for this realm name issue? :-/ |
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17:09.31 | nevcairiel | most annoying is in the chat window with the "has come online" messages :p |
17:10.00 | znf | yeah, that's what's pissing me off the most |
17:10.16 | znf | and because it adds realm name, it doesn't class-color it anymore |
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17:15.09 | Stanzilla | I fixed it for online |
17:15.12 | Stanzilla | but not offline yet |
17:15.56 | nebula169 | mine works, abbreviates the server and colors the name for online, offline doesn't, though, not sure if its prat or some other addon |
17:16.01 | nevcairiel | i suppose i could just plug it into my chat filter |
17:17.01 | znf | could be prat, nebula169 |
17:18.38 | znf | I wonder if that "other raids" button could be more hidden... |
17:19.06 | Repo | broker_afk: 03oscarucb * r71 Broker_AFK.lua: tweak minimap icon |
17:19.26 | nebula169 | znf: http://pastebin.com/E4bEXAfT :p |
17:19.44 | znf | good idea, make it into an addon! |
17:20.17 | nebula169 | i mean, i added it to an addon |
17:21.26 | znf | oh, I think something already adds it for me, let me see :P |
17:21.50 | znf | yeah, something does, no idea what, though |
17:23.41 | Megalon | probably some weakaura aura |
17:23.42 | Megalon | hohoho |
17:23.51 | znf | heh |
17:23.59 | nevcairiel | damn my text replacement doesnt work because its a secret hyperlink :p |
17:24.28 | sb | postal needs xrealm support! :p |
17:25.07 | Repo | professionsvault: 03oscarucb 047.1.6 * r532 : Tagging as 7.1.6 |
17:25.23 | Repo | saved_instances: 03oscarucb 045.7.6 * r366 : Tagging as 5.7.6 |
17:26.16 | znf | so blizzard-ish to add something annoying during a minor patch... |
17:27.38 | Ressy | what'd they add? |
17:27.40 | oscarucb | yea they're 2 for 2 on that this tier |
17:28.29 | oscarucb | nothing like a "bug fix" patch that actually creates more bugs |
17:30.26 | oscarucb | meanwhile the tradeskill hyperlinks they broke in 5.4.0 remain broken /rage |
17:31.31 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: first thing I see when I open AceTab: local is335 = GetBuildInfo() >= "3.3.5" |
17:31.32 | Stanzilla | haha |
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17:42.34 | Stanzilla | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.adm |
17:43.54 | Ressy | Business only. |
17:44.20 | Ressy | Manager is built into the OS via an update |
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17:46.45 | Ressy | Open Google Settings in the apps section, click Android Device Manager, and the options are there. |
17:46.46 | Stanzilla | yeah was ages ago |
17:46.48 | Stanzilla | also why business only? |
17:46.56 | Ressy | paid? |
17:47.02 | Stanzilla | no? |
17:47.20 | Stanzilla | the app is to find your other devices on the device you are using the app on |
17:47.35 | Stanzilla | like I can trace my phone on my tablet with it |
17:47.47 | Ressy | I can do that already withuot that app |
17:47.55 | Stanzilla | yes with the website |
17:49.25 | Stanzilla | nebula169: I hear auto promote is broken in ora |
17:51.28 | znf | nr. 1 reason I miss having a woman in the house: so many dishes I had to wash :( |
17:53.38 | Megalon | then buy one |
17:54.52 | znf | good idea, should be able to find a russian for cheap |
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18:27.34 | Stanzilla | we have someone that wants to buy flex for 200 euros |
18:27.35 | Stanzilla | o.o |
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18:28.38 | Megalon | he wanna cut you in half? |
18:29.49 | znf | Stanzilla, we'll do it for 100€! |
18:29.52 | znf | send them over |
18:30.40 | Megalon | znf and his romanian 'chopping people up' business |
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18:35.01 | Stanzilla | btw nevcairiel you were right |
18:35.05 | Stanzilla | I totally don't understand acetab |
18:35.51 | znf | Seriously, whoever thought about adding that automatic "failsafe" to ubuntu is a retard |
18:35.59 | znf | ubuntu/grub |
18:37.12 | znf | they added this retarded thing "recordfail" which is enabled by default, even on -server installs :-/ |
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18:48.53 | znf | there we go |
19:04.43 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: please tell me the blink bug is gone |
19:05.16 | Gnarfoz | also, apparently, I stopped (ctrl-z) my irssi accidentally, missing the whole day :C |
19:05.16 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: windows will get the update this night |
19:05.22 | Gnarfoz | I just updated |
19:05.22 | Stanzilla | but it is gone in canary |
19:05.23 | Stanzilla | so yeah |
19:05.35 | Gnarfoz | looks good so far |
19:06.38 | Stanzilla | ah right |
19:06.43 | Stanzilla | they are shipping it now |
19:07.21 | Gnarfoz | so do I want to turn on advanced combat logging? |
19:07.23 | Gnarfoz | any good? |
19:14.33 | sb | ugh |
19:14.34 | sb | how? |
19:15.20 | sb | Gnarfoz! |
19:15.26 | Stanzilla | network settings, sb |
19:16.30 | znf | yes, turn the advanced combat log on |
19:16.31 | znf | break everything |
19:17.02 | Gnarfoz | znf: I don't have any scrollback for today - what's wrong with it? |
19:17.22 | znf | doubt there's something wrong with it |
19:17.37 | Gnarfoz | k |
19:17.47 | Gnarfoz | thought you were serious for once in your life! ;p |
19:28.31 | znf | nah, I'll never be serious |
19:30.00 | Stanzilla | sometimes I really hate google |
19:30.12 | Stanzilla | I can't get rid of a contact because gmail and g+ sync all the time |
19:30.21 | Stanzilla | so when I delete it on x, y puts him back |
19:30.50 | znf | weird |
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19:39.03 | Gnarfoz | for once, Blizzard's "might impact your latency" warning is not over-cautious |
19:39.36 | Gnarfoz | my latency went from 35 to 200 |
19:40.47 | Ressy | For what? |
19:41.09 | Stanzilla | advanced combat log |
19:41.24 | Ressy | wow |
19:41.53 | znf | Gnarfoz, you got dial-up? :o |
19:42.58 | Gnarfoz | well, it adds resources back into the log |
19:43.06 | Gnarfoz | and that's probably spammy as hell |
19:43.12 | znf | I see |
19:43.20 | znf | hmm, my latency is weird, too |
19:43.39 | znf | well, ofc it's weird... somehow I'm downloading at 80mbps |
19:43.42 | znf | deluge went nuts again |
19:44.22 | Gnarfoz | I should truncate my wowcombatlog so I can compare fights |
19:44.42 | znf | echo > wowcombatlog.txt |
19:44.42 | znf | ! |
19:45.20 | Gnarfoz | yeah well, not without losing my data :p |
19:45.31 | Gnarfoz | the WL client has a nice splitter |
19:45.43 | Gnarfoz | (still have to compare its results to those of my perl splitter) |
19:46.54 | sb | no problem here Gnarfoz |
19:47.03 | Gnarfoz | you don't have shit internet, though |
19:47.16 | sb | 24ms |
19:47.29 | sb | forgot the first 3 bosses with ACL :| |
19:47.34 | Gnarfoz | doesn't matter what the latency was before, just that it changed / doesn't change |
19:47.52 | Gnarfoz | sb: doesn't matter unless you use WL - WoL doesn't support it anyway, afaik |
19:47.58 | sb | ofc WL |
19:48.05 | sb | what else? :D |
19:48.37 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: tp "compatibility mode" is what I want to have disabled for it to use the fast parenting/anchoring, right? (cc nebula169 or whoever chimed in about that last night) |
19:48.56 | Stanzilla | probably |
19:51.36 | sb | <PROTECTED> |
19:52.09 | Gnarfoz | nevermind about "you don't have shit internet" |
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19:56.25 | znf | Gnarfoz, hmm, you think? The WL client sucked badly for me |
19:56.31 | Stanzilla | http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/12/11/gmail-4-7-is-here-with-vacation-responder-kitkat-printing-support-and-drumroll-zip-downloading-apk-download/ |
19:56.31 | znf | I had to resort splitting by WoL, not sure why |
19:56.32 | Stanzilla | zomg |
19:56.35 | Stanzilla | zip downloading |
19:56.38 | Stanzilla | WHAAAT |
19:56.41 | Gnarfoz | what, znf |
19:56.48 | Gnarfoz | where does the WoL client have a log splitter |
19:56.59 | Gnarfoz | also, what "sucked badly" about it |
19:57.06 | Gnarfoz | you suck badly at describing things :P |
19:57.23 | znf | it somehow failed to detect my latest log |
19:57.44 | Gnarfoz | I just hit the "split" button and it neatly dissected my 2.5 GiB log :D |
19:57.54 | Gnarfoz | (like I said, gotta check at what points it split it) |
19:57.56 | znf | also: http://i.imgur.com/YynTVxF.png |
19:58.21 | Gnarfoz | does it work well? |
19:58.33 | znf | yeah, never had an issue with it |
19:58.38 | Gnarfoz | (also gtfo with zipping them, 7z!) |
19:58.51 | znf | like it matters :P |
19:59.18 | Gnarfoz | I have enough logs for it to matter ^^ |
20:00.20 | Gnarfoz | negative point for WL: Adobe AIR |
20:00.33 | Gnarfoz | da fuq, can nobody write regular windows programs these days? :C |
20:01.46 | znf | negative? I find it being a pro, compared to java |
20:02.07 | znf | also, multi-platform... |
20:02.10 | Gnarfoz | right, installing one runtime is worse than the other |
20:02.20 | Gnarfoz | like java isn't fucking multi-platform |
20:02.34 | Megalon | someone should make an adobe air implementation in java |
20:02.41 | Megalon | that runs in silverlight |
20:02.41 | Gnarfoz | runtime-ception |
20:02.43 | Megalon | inside flash |
20:02.47 | znf | Gnarfoz, I have much more dislike for Java than for AIR |
20:02.59 | Gnarfoz | again, why |
20:03.18 | znf | "HERE IS ANOTHER JAVA UPDATE! OH! AND A TOOLBAR, TOO! EAT IT!!!!" |
20:03.19 | Gnarfoz | I dislike the author picked it because it's the only program I have that uses it |
20:03.40 | Gnarfoz | znf: and adobe doesn't try to shove down McAffee anti virus your throat? ;p |
20:03.46 | znf | not so annoyingly |
20:03.54 | znf | I don't get the "install antivirus" prompt when updating air... |
20:04.00 | znf | the same can't be said for java |
20:04.14 | Megalon | why you hate ask toolbar etc |
20:04.22 | Gnarfoz | because java doesn't silently download updates I didn't ask for |
20:04.42 | Gnarfoz | also, neither is really an argument against either runtime |
20:04.52 | Gnarfoz | because it's not part of the runtime in either case :P |
20:05.07 | znf | and java has a bad history of "I'M IN YOUR OS EATING YOUR RAMZ" |
20:05.11 | Gnarfoz | uh |
20:05.13 | Gnarfoz | what |
20:05.20 | Gnarfoz | java is a vm |
20:05.27 | Gnarfoz | of course it's going to use more ram than a native program |
20:05.39 | znf | I don't care. I hate its guts. |
20:05.44 | Primer | me too |
20:05.54 | znf | and I hope it dies sooner than later |
20:05.57 | Gnarfoz | haha |
20:06.04 | Gnarfoz | you'll have 30 fps before it dies |
20:06.07 | Gnarfoz | (i.e. never) |
20:07.34 | Repo | chatter: 03daf2 07master * 1.4.4-4-g9a2ec59 Modules/Telltarget.lua: [+1 commit] telltarget should now work properly on connected realms |
20:09.15 | Gnarfoz | btw, 120 MiB vs. 75 MiB is a considerable difference, but still, neither is really light on memory ;p |
20:09.54 | Gnarfoz | even shitty-ass Teamspeak is only 37 MiB :D |
20:10.12 | wink | Gnarfoz: there's a slight difference between "vm" and "horrible waste of ram" |
20:10.24 | Gnarfoz | wink: same goes for you: explain |
20:11.20 | Gnarfoz | (I don't even know if it's useful to compare Java and AIR, they might not even do similar things :D) |
20:11.34 | wink | Java has a 30MB overhead for Hello World. there are a lot smaller VMs |
20:11.46 | znf | here's another reason: AIR looks prettier. |
20:12.08 | Gnarfoz | rofl znf |
20:12.32 | znf | I always hated Java's file browser, for example :P |
20:12.35 | Primer | Isn't AIR a vm too? |
20:12.47 | Gnarfoz | znf: there is no "java's file browser' |
20:12.52 | Gnarfoz | you can use whatever the fuck you want |
20:12.57 | Primer | s/file browser/UI widgets/ |
20:13.07 | Gnarfoz | Primer: doesn't change a thing |
20:13.25 | Gnarfoz | you don't have to use swing/awt/swt or whatever is available these days, it's just an option |
20:13.57 | Primer | hrmm? |
20:14.02 | Gnarfoz | what? |
20:14.03 | Primer | You have to use SOMETHING |
20:14.11 | Gnarfoz | sure, and it can be PRETTY if you want to :D |
20:14.15 | Primer | And swing is the built in one that most people use |
20:14.18 | znf | I don't care what they're called. |
20:14.19 | Primer | and it's fugly as fuck |
20:14.37 | Gnarfoz | znf: have you used WoL client's file picker? :p |
20:14.51 | znf | yes, I don't like it! :D |
20:14.53 | Gnarfoz | oh wait, it's Windows's native one, because you can do that! |
20:14.55 | znf | it has a java icon! |
20:14.55 | Primer | surely...and that's swing |
20:15.00 | Gnarfoz | it's swing? rofl |
20:15.03 | Gnarfoz | it's the windows one |
20:15.18 | Primer | I guess I haven't used it in a while |
20:15.22 | Gnarfoz | unless they skinned swing really well |
20:15.22 | Gnarfoz | (in which case the argument is just as moot as before) |
20:15.22 | wink | I don't care for looks, just saying java apps are unnecessarily heavy on ram |
20:15.23 | Primer | I thought it was swing |
20:15.35 | Primer | but I guess it's swt |
20:15.44 | Gnarfoz | wink: are there smaller VMs with less base overhead maybe? (i.e. is this true for all implementations of a jvm?) |
20:16.15 | Gnarfoz | znf: it inherits the program's icon... |
20:16.29 | znf | Gnarfoz, yes, I dislike that! |
20:16.31 | wink | Gnarfoz: I dunno, but pypy isn't ram heavy afaik. or zend engine, or cpython |
20:16.34 | znf | BURN JAVA BURN |
20:16.46 | znf | DIE IN FLAMES, ORACLE |
20:16.51 | znf | brings out the pitchfork |
20:17.10 | wink | or... *drumroll* lua |
20:17.16 | Gnarfoz | Oracle dying I'm fine with, I have enough (non-"it's not pretty!) reasons to hate them |
20:17.19 | wink | all of these are VMs |
20:17.44 | Gnarfoz | wink: java virtual machines was the question, not other languages |
20:18.08 | wink | your question. not mine :) |
20:18.34 | Gnarfoz | that's not how a discussion is supposed to work |
20:18.49 | wink | look what I said originally |
20:18.52 | Gnarfoz | you said "java has overhead X" I asked if that's a property of Oracle's JVM and if maybe others don't have it |
20:19.05 | wink | well by java I meant the jvm |
20:19.06 | Primer | agrees with znf, and grabs a torch and pitchfork |
20:19.10 | wink | any JVM |
20:19.18 | Gnarfoz | but is that actually TRUE for all JVMs? |
20:19.21 | wink | you can't make "small jvm binaries" |
20:19.26 | wink | afaik |
20:19.30 | Gnarfoz | binaries? |
20:19.35 | Gnarfoz | this isn't about binary sizes |
20:19.42 | Gnarfoz | we were at ram usage oO |
20:19.48 | wink | clojure, scala, jruby - it all boils down to bytecode with a huge memory footprint |
20:20.09 | Primer | but it's "enterprise", so it's OK! |
20:20.10 | Gnarfoz | are those jvms? oO never heard of those |
20:20.15 | wink | strike that one line, yes :) |
20:20.20 | wink | jvm is a platform |
20:20.31 | wink | you have: oracle jvm, openjdk, and ibm |
20:20.40 | Gnarfoz | yeah, those are the ones I was talking about |
20:20.43 | wink | and maybe more I can't name of the top of my head |
20:20.47 | wink | and you have JVM languages |
20:20.47 | Gnarfoz | HotSpot, OpenJDK and whatever IBM's is called |
20:20.55 | Primer | ibm still makes a jvm!?!? |
20:20.55 | wink | which all compile to jvm bytecode |
20:21.10 | wink | and these applications are all equally memory-hungry |
20:21.14 | Gnarfoz | ? |
20:21.21 | Gnarfoz | isn't the JVM the overhead |
20:21.29 | Primer | I'd say |
20:21.32 | wink | well probably :P |
20:21.34 | Gnarfoz | 30 MB for hello world should not be big in bytecode |
20:21.35 | wink | but it's nitpicking |
20:21.46 | Gnarfoz | you brought it up, I just want to understand |
20:21.57 | Gnarfoz | whoop, raid invite |
20:21.58 | Gnarfoz | :| |
20:21.58 | Primer | <PROTECTED> |
20:21.58 | wink | right now there is now memory-saving jvm that I know of |
20:22.08 | wink | s,now,no, |
20:22.16 | Gnarfoz | Primer: that could be anything |
20:22.28 | wink | so whether it's in the bytecode or the VM.. it's big :P |
20:22.37 | Primer | Gnarfoz: in this case, yes, it's bad code |
20:22.46 | Primer | bad db drivers, actually |
20:22.56 | Primer | which suck in entire result sets into memory |
20:23.21 | Primer | that's another thing about java |
20:23.39 | Primer | Oh, you want to support a database? Yeah, write that native code... |
20:23.47 | Primer | I know you can just use JNI |
20:23.54 | Gnarfoz | what else do you want them to do? stream it? makes it depend on the connection being fast enough; buffer it on disk? bottleneck! |
20:23.55 | Primer | but most "purists" think that's evil |
20:24.02 | Primer | Gnarfoz: cursor? |
20:24.13 | Gnarfoz | back and forth requesting piece by piece? |
20:24.16 | Primer | aye |
20:24.55 | Primer | sure beats allocating 3 gigs of memory for one request |
20:25.00 | Gnarfoz | dunno, I've only used cursors inside the database; I've never written a database network driver |
20:25.26 | Gnarfoz | and now, Dark Shaman |
20:25.27 | Gnarfoz | :F |
20:25.35 | wink | kill it with fire! |
20:25.41 | wink | or without, your choice |
20:26.43 | Primer | The thing I hate the most about java is this perception that, because of its supposed "higher entry level", that the code that's written is superior. |
20:26.59 | Primer | I currently manage a tomcat instance that's just filled with crap code. |
20:27.06 | wink | peace through superior firepower |
20:27.34 | Primer | The fact that tomcat runs everything as a thread means that your programmers need to be aware of concurrency. |
20:27.56 | Primer | And the people that wrote the shit that I manage had no fucking clue. |
20:28.27 | Primer | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4034141/java-high-cpu-usage |
20:29.04 | Primer | That's not my post, btw, just something that I found when researching a consistent problem that I had been running into. |
20:29.28 | Primer | The link in the first solution explains it. TL;DR: HashMap is not thread safe |
20:31.07 | Primer | And you get a race condition. It took inspecting an 8g heap dump to figure that out. There were 37 threads stuck on HashMap.java:303 |
20:31.25 | Primer | Might as well be writing shit in C |
20:31.37 | Primer | </rant> |
20:32.37 | Gnarfoz | znf: btw, a 102 MiB log file is more than 1 MiB smaller as a 7z compared to WoL's zip |
20:33.41 | znf | Gnarfoz, why do you even keep that many logs where 1 MiB matters? :-/ |
20:34.00 | Gnarfoz | because I have all of my guild's logs back to end of BC |
20:34.02 | znf | I'm genuinely curious |
20:34.21 | Primer | wtf...why? |
20:34.33 | Primer | Once they're on WoL I just delete them |
20:34.43 | Gnarfoz | do you also like cloud storage in general? |
20:35.38 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: wtf you really kept all that? |
20:35.38 | znf | yeah |
20:35.44 | znf | I love cloud storage |
20:35.55 | Gnarfoz | good for you |
20:36.10 | Gnarfoz | do call when your favourite provider just disappears;] |
20:36.39 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: actually, I just looked, I might have thrown out or misplaced part of it, oldest log seems to be from 2009-05 |
20:36.50 | Stanzilla | still |
20:36.52 | Stanzilla | quite the collection |
20:38.28 | Gnarfoz | why not, it's not that big |
20:38.44 | Gnarfoz | (I actually have used it before once or twice to look up obscure shit) |
20:39.59 | Gnarfoz | wowchatlog is better, tho |
20:41.09 | Gnarfoz | gnah |
20:41.30 | Gnarfoz | picoguild is all like 'playername-realmname' for players in guild |
20:45.45 | Stanzilla | everything is |
20:48.50 | Gnarfoz | I know it's not its fault, just sayin |
20:48.56 | Gnarfoz | picoguild has other problems, too |
20:49.07 | Gnarfoz | but durcyn has apparently left us :( |
20:51.00 | Repo | guild-search: 03talryn1 07master * 1.7-3-g2af7824 GuildSearch.lua: [+2 commits] |
20:51.01 | Repo | 2af7824: Fix issue with the Remove Guild Member popup and the new Esc setting. |
20:51.01 | Repo | 0dc18c6: * Add option to enable/disable Esc closing windows. |
21:10.19 | Gnarfoz | hm, getting some lag short lag spikes, not long enough to know if it's the combat log |
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21:18.49 | sb | Gnarfoz: link nightwish full concert yt with floor again plz :D |
21:20.14 | Gnarfoz | sb: the full concert isn't on yt |
21:20.18 | Gnarfoz | it was evil torrents! |
21:21.05 | Gnarfoz | http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/9279695/Nightwish_-_Showtime__Storyti |
21:21.06 | Gnarfoz | me_(Dvdrip) or http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/9275083/Nightwish_-_Showtime__Storytime_(2013)_(2CD)_[FLAC] (or even bette |
21:21.09 | Gnarfoz | r: http://www.amazon.de/dp/B00FPM19UI/ ) - teaser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCm2WTrAfCk&list=PLS-Nr9B3mJ4yz70NDtsx |
21:21.12 | Gnarfoz | YNIYsDQUrKzXc |
21:21.16 | Gnarfoz | ouch that was horrible |
21:21.29 | Gnarfoz | 2013-12-09 19:38:10 < Gnarfoz> Nightwish fans? grab http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/9279695/Nightwish_-_Showtime__Storytime_(Dvdrip) or http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/9275083/Nightwish_-_Showtime__Storytime_(2013)_(2CD)_[FLAC] (or even better: http://www.amazon.de/dp/B00FPM19UI/ ) - teaser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCm2WTrAfCk&list=PLS-Nr9B3mJ4yz70NDtsxYNIYsDQUrKzXc |
21:21.45 | Gnarfoz | and Stanzilla had some gulli link |
21:32.01 | sb | amazon |
21:35.29 | Gnarfoz | amazon best link, yes |
21:54.10 | Stanzilla | whyyy ohhh whyyy won't my pacific rim bluray play |
21:57.10 | Primer | drm |
21:58.16 | Stanzilla | yeah guess anydvd is not updated for it |
22:02.36 | nevcairiel | isnt the bluray pretty old already |
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22:20.30 | Repo | big-wigs: 03gnarfoz * r11701 SiegeOfOrgrimmar/KorKron.lua: KorKron: berserk is 9 minutes |
22:20.33 | Stanzilla | dat Gnarfoz |
22:20.33 | Stanzilla | also fixed dat blu ray |
22:20.33 | Gnarfoz | am I in for a world of shit if I get a blu ray drive for xmas? |
22:20.33 | Gnarfoz | i.e. it's all stupidly consumer unfriendly? |
22:24.58 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: yes, better buy anydvd hd with it |
22:25.50 | Stanzilla | !seen kagaro |
22:25.58 | Stanzilla | ~seen kagaro |
22:26.06 | purl | kagaro <~kagaro@cpe-173-095-140-190.nc.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 30d 2h 20m 3s ago, saying: 'EthanCentaurai i aded a test case on my end when im done with work ill look into it in more details'. |
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22:26.57 | Stanzilla | hell no |
22:27.49 | Gnarfoz | ugh |
22:28.02 | Gnarfoz | buy shit so I can "pirate" my own blurays |
22:28.06 | Gnarfoz | figures |
22:28.20 | Gnarfoz | can mpc-hc play them with that? |
22:28.50 | Gnarfoz | (from the disc, I mean, I hope I don't have to rip shit just to watch it) |
22:29.42 | Stanzilla | yes |
22:30.19 | Repo | chatter: 03Stanzilla 07master * 1.4.4-6-g0fd2edf Modules/CopyChat.lua: [+2 commits] |
22:30.19 | Repo | 0fd2edf: Merge branch 'master' of git.wowace.com:wow/chatter/mainline |
22:30.19 | Repo | 6b11538: pretty sure this fixes nothing but add a nil check here to avoid the error |
22:30.38 | Gnarfoz | good enough |
22:30.39 | Gnarfoz | how much is it? |
22:30.43 | Stanzilla | 60 I think |
22:30.55 | Gnarfoz | should have put it on the wish list, too |
22:30.55 | Gnarfoz | :D |
22:31.41 | Gnarfoz | haha you can pay with bitcoins |
22:32.31 | Stanzilla | http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/12/11/developer-changelog-android-4-4-2-kot49h-hides-app-ops-and-fixes-flash-sms-attack/ |
22:34.34 | Gnarfoz | it's TC0.1124941 |
22:34.35 | Gnarfoz | what |
22:34.36 | Gnarfoz | 0.1124941 BTC |
22:35.26 | Gnarfoz | ~74€ |
22:35.39 | Gnarfoz | it's pretty accurate, tbh |
22:36.01 | Gnarfoz | not going to spend my play money, though |
22:36.02 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
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22:53.23 | Torhal | Oh, I wonder how this will go: the oQueue author is in #wowuidev |
22:54.47 | Primer | and who is that? |
22:55.46 | Gnarfoz | tinystomper |
22:56.12 | Gnarfoz | and why would it go any particular way, besides him being Shadowed 2.0 |
22:56.12 | Gnarfoz | :D |
22:57.30 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: I just envisioned him calling everyone a troll and being unpleasant in general. |
22:57.55 | Semlar | we haven't trolled him yet |
22:58.03 | Primer | yet |
22:58.12 | Torhal | Semlar: Nor have the people in the forums who he routinely calls trolls. |
22:58.43 | Torhal | "Hey, I found an issue with oQueue where..." Him: "Ah, another troll" |
22:58.58 | Gnarfoz | he apparently uses it as a synonym for dumbass |
22:59.05 | Gnarfoz | (which applies at least half of the time :D) |
22:59.11 | Semlar | well i guess foxlit called him silly but i'm not sure that counts |
22:59.15 | Torhal | Heh |
22:59.37 | Torhal | He doesn't have the "moral high ground" because someone isn't maligning his precious. |
22:59.41 | Gnarfoz | foxlit would rewrite oqueue in under 2 kiB |
22:59.56 | Torhal | ROFLMAO |
23:00.00 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
23:00.19 | Torhal | That's a rather unfortunate title, Semlar. |
23:00.25 | Semlar | :[ |
23:00.30 | Semlar | it placeholder |
23:00.37 | Gnarfoz | did anyone do any PRNG benchmarks for 5.4.1 so we can compare with the new one, btw? :F |
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23:01.42 | Semlar | plus i think the ui for NoQueue is already 12kb |
23:01.57 | Semlar | i should get foxlit to do it |
23:02.37 | Stanzilla | pretty shitty Semlar |
23:02.50 | Semlar | aww |
23:03.11 | Semlar | well the backend is under 2kb if that counts |
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23:04.14 | Semlar | clearly it should be run through luasrcdiet |
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23:11.43 | znf | great, this name change fucked over my dkp addon |
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23:42.37 | harl | what's wrong with me nameplates, huh? |
23:43.13 | znf | what is wrong? |
23:43.59 | znf | I don't understand this change in the rosterinfo... |
23:44.39 | harl | there's no name or level displayed on me nameplates anymoore |
23:44.44 | znf | I mean, why spit the realmname in GetGuildRosterInfo() but not in GetRaidRosterInfo() ? |
23:44.56 | harl | i dunno |
23:45.01 | Semlar-Laptop | did you need names on your nameplates? |
23:45.09 | harl | yes |
23:45.12 | Semlar-Laptop | oh |
23:45.37 | harl | are you a donkey, sir? |
23:45.52 | Semlar-Laptop | no |
23:46.15 | harl | oh. |
23:46.50 | pompy | Parnic: $12 for Peggle 2 ? Was there a lil discount or is that retail price? and worth it? |
23:47.02 | Semlar-Laptop | did you try disabling all of your addons |
23:53.14 | Semlar-Laptop | can oceanic servers group with US players |
23:53.42 | Semlar-Laptop | i noticed some showing up in the raid browser |
23:53.45 | Gnarfoz | there are no oceanic servers |
23:53.48 | Gnarfoz | so, yes |
23:53.55 | Semlar-Laptop | erm |
23:53.59 | Gnarfoz | they're US servers |
23:54.04 | Gnarfoz | whatever you label them |
23:54.48 | Gnarfoz | (i.e. it's like french/italian/german/english/spanish, they're also all EU servers) |
23:57.20 | znf | so, did anyone write a chat filter for that stupid name-realmname system messages? |
23:57.23 | znf | and care to share? ^^ |
23:57.31 | Gnarfoz | don't filter chat_msg_system |
23:57.36 | Gnarfoz | taiiiintz. |
23:57.47 | Megalon | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
23:57.48 | Stanzilla | he means hook |
23:58.07 | Gnarfoz | da what |
23:58.12 | Gnarfoz | oh right |
23:58.17 | Gnarfoz | chat filter is not enough I guess |
23:59.38 | znf | I mean getting rid of Char-STUPIDREALMNAME has logged in shit |