IRC log for #wowace on 20131205

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00:37.55Repobad-boy: 03funkydude * r1184  (2 files in 1 directory): anti-spam update
00:44.10nebula169Stanzilla: since you're there, should fix these, too http://pastebin.com/ikugbKDB
00:45.21nebula169and delete my old pb fork
00:46.19Repobad-boy: 03funkydude * r1185 BadBoy.lua: deDE update
00:56.08Repobad-boy: 03funkydude 04v12.108 * r1186 : Tagging as v12.108
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02:52.03Repobig-wigs: 03nebula169 * r11688 SiegeOfOrgrimmar/SpoilsOfPandaria.lua: SpoilsOfPandaria: don't go negative with sparks
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05:56.52Repopitbull4: 03nebula169 06nebula 07master * v4.0.0-beta48-81-g94da7ae GroupHeader.lua: [+1 commit] don't try to update frames when the group is disabled
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06:48.58Repoadibuttonauras: 03Adirelle 07develop * 1.0-beta-17-24-g1ade9b8 Display.lua: [+1 commit] Made the "hint" animation a little bit more visible.
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08:26.41nevcairielwhy the hell does WA try to access AceTimer internals, thats just bad
08:27.29nebula169lol, to get a count of currently running timers for a print
08:27.56nevcairielbut we apparently broke it anyway when we re-wrote acetimer a while back
08:28.22nebula169yea, its from some click on the ldb object
08:28.33nevcairielfwiw, your code shouldnt work either
08:28.41nebula169oh?
08:28.58nevcairielactiveTimers is not a table mapped by owners
08:29.07nevcairielits just a plain list of all timers
08:29.36nevcairielif you want to count your own, you need to iterate the whole table and check if timer.object == yourObject
08:29.44nebula169ahyea
08:46.19sbmorning
08:49.02Repopitbull4: 03nebula169 06nebula 07master * 13d17db  (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
08:49.02Repo13d17db: update from events for arenapet and arenapettarget
08:49.02Repoaa38182: disable enemy tot unit groups
08:50.57sbYESSS
08:51.00sbhttp://www.golem.de/news/cherry-tastatur-mit-beliebig-beleuchtbaren-farbtasten-1312-103169.html
08:51.04sbi needs :D
08:51.30sbfinally they did it
08:51.35nebula169mx rgb eh
08:51.38sbyup
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08:52.45*** topic/#wowace is 5.4.x ToC: 50400 | http://wowace.com/paste/ | http://lua.org | This channel is logged, via purl
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08:56.23sbnebula169: text says they will do all 4 types
08:56.43nebula169ah, my german is bad so i just went to cherry.de, only show red
08:57.12sbhttp://www.cherry.de/cid/press_1474.htm?cpssessionid=SID-9A31464E-A6E6EC36
08:57.16sbthere, english :D
08:57.28sbblue, brown, red, black
08:57.44nebula169neat
08:57.54nevcairielsounds expensive
08:58.28sb~200 eur!?
08:58.34sb(just guessing)
08:58.36nebula169doubt it'll be the entire keyboard
08:59.10nevcairielcorsair will be building the keyboard
08:59.42nevcairieltheir current top of the line product is ~150 euro
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09:01.23nevcairielbut that seems like a good choice
09:01.31sbyup, but thats the corsair announcement
09:01.33nevcairielalso depends on the software to drive it
09:02.36nevcairielmy current keyboard is kinda flawed, its key light always turns off when i boot the PC and i have to turn it on again, it keeps bugging me :P
09:05.47sbhuh
09:05.51sbconrad buying getgoods and hoh
09:18.51quiescensmoo
09:29.32TimmehI missed the Steam Civilization V deal :-(
09:29.44quiescens):
09:29.48quiescensgives timmeh a cookie
09:29.53Timmehfanks :-(
09:30.13sbTimmeh: that game sucks :|
09:30.41TimmehI never played it, but a few friends of mine do, so it'd have been fun to play it with them, I'd imagine
09:33.56sbplayed singleplayer 1-2 times, deleted it
09:34.38nevcairielCiv V isnt bad, the multiplayer is just terribly unstable, or at least was when we tried a couple month ago (right after the expansion came out)
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10:49.29Repopitbull4: 03nebula169 06nebula 07master * a209aea  (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
10:49.29Repoa209aea: refactor registering updating events add polling for tot frames
10:49.29Repo93775ab: Revert "disable enemy tot unit groups"
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10:52.53Chosido we have any mrrobot devs around?
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11:00.45quiescens\o/
11:10.34Repopitbull4: 03nebula169 06nebula 07master * 555dcdf GroupHeader.lua: [+1 commit] pull the header event function out, too
11:20.10Repopitbull4: 03nebula169 06nebula 07master * 20eb890 GroupHeader.lua: [+1 commit] fix var names
11:26.28Stanzillanebula169: I'm half awake now
11:26.32Stanzilladelete which of the two?
11:26.41nebula169nebula169
11:27.36Stanzilladone
11:27.49nebula169danke sehr
11:28.05Stanzillaand I assume that WA patch is not going in because of what nevcairiel said afterwards?
11:28.24nevcairielits non-functional is all =p
11:28.33nebula169should just cut that out
11:28.44nebula169both those functions and the print that uses it
11:28.47Stanzillawaiting for new patch then :D
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11:31.54Stanzillanebula169: is your new pb branch based on anchors or mainline?
11:33.07nebula169no anchors, no
11:33.09nebula169not*
11:36.17Stanzilla<_<
11:38.16nebula169Stanzilla: http://pastebin.com/5Uyhe32C
11:39.56Stanzillanebula169: what does it fix? rune timers?
11:40.04nebula169absolutely nothing.
11:40.14Stanzillathat is cool
11:40.24nebula169it removes some references to vars that aren't used
11:40.43Repoweakauras-2: 03stanzilla * r20 WeakAuras.lua: cosmetics, by nebula169
11:40.44Stanzillathere
11:40.47nebula169:p
11:44.55Stanzillarepo is now open btw
11:46.38nebula169don't tell the gold thieves!
11:47.16Stanzilla:D
11:47.39Stanzillaso yeah, merging your pb4 changes just has way to many conflicts
11:47.44StanzillaI'll let breser do that
11:48.12nebula169really? its a pretty contained set of changes
11:48.37nebula169didn't think anchors would change much in GroupHeader
11:48.58StanzillaI only took a quick look and it was some positioning calculation
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11:59.30sbwonder if i should enable ART on my phone
11:59.34sbStanzilla: tell me!
12:03.44Repoadispellhud: 03Adirelle 041.0 * 7b914cd /: [new tag] Tagging as 1.0.
12:03.44Repoadispellhud: 03Adirelle 07master * 1.0 modules/Auras.lua: [+2 commits]
12:03.44Repo0cdf528: Auras: added an option to change the sort order.
12:03.45Repo8d409d2: Auras: added some layout options.
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12:12.03znfheh, they renamed kara's phase again
12:12.14znfit's clear that they're messing with dataminers
12:15.28sbokay, switched to ART, lets see
12:17.59znfis ART that new thingie?
12:25.37winkART is what?
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12:25.55Fiskeryes znf
12:25.59FiskerAndroid RunTime wink
12:26.07FiskerReplacement for Dalvik
12:26.09winkoh, that ART
12:26.17winkthought it was wow-y :P
12:26.20winkthanks anyway
12:26.37winkreminds me I need to factory reset these days
12:26.41winkmy phone is so damn slow
12:32.34znfShould I get a Moto G?
12:35.21Fiskeryeah sure znf
12:35.57znfSomeone offered to get me either a Moto G for x-mass or a new kit (mobo+cpu+ram)
12:38.32sbwell, you said something about 5fps, right?
12:39.03znfyeah... but I'm not sure I'd want someone to get me that expensive gift :-/
12:39.17znfMoto G is <200€; a new kit is 350€+
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12:40.28nevcairielphones are not important if you cant even use your pc anymore :P
12:40.34winkI agree
12:41.04winkand if it's too expensive can't you jsut let them leave the ram out and grab it elsewhere? :)
12:42.18znfthe expensive part is the mobo+cpu :P
12:42.55znfnevcairiel, I thought about that, too, besides, I have an iPhone 4S at the moment
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12:43.23nevcairielwell a decent cpu costs a bit of money, no avoiding that :)
12:44.03nevcairielprobably a bit more money in your neck of the wood, too
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12:45.39znfneck of the wood?
12:46.07znfAh
12:46.18znfYeah, parts are more expensive in .ro; why? we don't know
12:47.03nevcairiellower demand probably
12:49.51znfIf you think percent-wise, I kind of doubt it's low demand. Overall numbers, yeah, as we barely have a population of 22mil.
12:52.04znfWoah @ Bitcoin
12:52.11sbwhat happened?
12:52.21sbah, crash
12:52.38nevcairielits been kinda unstable for a while now
12:52.44nevcairielthere was a crash last week as well
12:52.50znfit's quite funny
12:57.04hastegoing up again now sb
12:59.50nevcairielwonder if it reached a critical mass now, or all the news reports about it made so many people join in that it behaves different now
13:00.37hasteroommate of mine has earned quite a lot of cash trading now
13:00.43hastestarted fairly late as well, when it was at 800
13:04.43nevcairielwell it goes up and down a bit more recently, so if you have a bit of capital to start you can probably also make a bit
13:05.00nevcairielnot as much as like starting in january and just sitting on it until now, but hey
13:06.35hasteyeah, I'm not bothering with it much
13:07.16hasteI could probably buy some with the LTC I have, but meh, probably better to do nothing with them
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13:08.21Stanzillasb: no
13:08.26Stanzillasb: some apps dont work with it, yet
13:09.01Stanzillawhatsapp for example and even some google stuff
13:09.02bluspacecowoh hai
13:09.13sbugh, okay
13:09.27Stanzillasb: are you rooted though?
13:09.33sbyup
13:09.46sbone + root + omnirmo
13:10.00Stanzillawell the problem is that in the current version that is shipped with android, art has too strict checks for something (i forgot)
13:10.06Stanzillabut there is a patched version you could flash
13:10.12Stanzillanot sure if it is worth the hassle though
13:10.19sbwill go back to dalvik then
13:12.22Stanzillanebula169: stuff liek that https://db.tt/JUpjNJtX
13:12.25bluspacecow*noms Stanzilla*
13:13.57sbStanzilla: ok, SmartRemote also breaks
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13:25.36Funkeh`haha blizz is just trolling now
13:25.46Funkeh`renaming that karazhan flooor every patch
13:26.44bluspacecowhehe
13:28.40hastewat
13:29.36winklike commit messaged
13:29.39winkFixed bug #123
13:29.42winkNo, really
13:29.45winkNow it works
13:29.46winkWTF
13:29.53winkfuck that shit I'm going home
13:30.05winkfix bug (on the train)
13:30.09winkeowidftyw0fgty2w340f[j4h2w3
13:31.24TimmehOMG YOUR PASSWORD!
13:43.52winkno, a usual commit message
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13:56.48Repolibprism-1-0 (experimental): 03Aiue 04v1.0.2 * cb7604d /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.0.2
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14:54.03znfStanzilla, why aren't you using ShareX?
14:54.09znfOr are you?
14:59.33Stanzillaznf: I am
14:59.42znfWhy so dropbox, then? :P
14:59.48Stanzillawhy not?
14:59.53znfdunno, imgur ftw!
15:00.02Stanzillanope, imgur compresses images
15:00.10Stanzillaabove a certain size
15:00.12znfonly if they're above 2MB
15:00.18Stanzillayeah, which happens all the time
15:00.33znfI mostly upload crops :-?
15:00.41StanzillaI don't?
15:00.58znftoo bad :(
15:01.07Adirelle[work]just frak vwmare and virtualbox altogether
15:01.18Stanzillavirtualbox is so bad
15:01.40znfyeah :(
15:01.41znfit is :(
15:01.49znfI always get better results in vmware
15:02.11Adirelle[work]the performance of vboxsf is awful with a lot a files, which happens quickly when you use some framework
15:02.23Stanzillabest diablo hotfix "Crushing Blow is being temporarily disabled."
15:02.24Stanzilla:D
15:03.44Adirelle[work]the "native" performance of vmhgfs (the vmware equivalent) is ok but it has an caching outstanding bug that make it unusable for development :
15:04.05Adirelle[work]and switching to the open-source drivers (vm-tools) gives you the performance of vboxsf...
15:05.32sbStanzilla: did you try wildstar beta yet?
15:05.38Stanzillasb: I have no key
15:05.42sboh
15:05.49sband i have no time :D
15:06.04Stanzillatheir account system is so shitty
15:06.12StanzillaI requested a new password yesterday morning or so
15:06.14Stanzillastill no mail
15:09.40Stanzillahttp://www.theverge.com/2013/12/5/5175568/fixing-the-nexus-5-android-4-4-1-improves-camera nevcairiel Fisker
15:10.52nevcairieli dont really care about the camera
15:12.47Stanzillabut your selfies in front of  your computer desk will look better now
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15:12.55Stanzillathat is important
15:13.20znfsb, you haz beta? :(
15:14.07sbznf: yes
15:14.12znfme hate you :(
15:14.32StanzillaI should play some diablo beta
15:14.33sbyou have 2 heroic trinkets
15:14.42znfsb, yes, but I haz no guild!
15:14.44Stanzillasure is fun with all the disabled items and stats atm :D
15:14.51sbznf: huh? what happened?
15:14.53Stanzillaznf: did you get kicked?
15:14.58znfno, gquit last night
15:15.21Stanzillaragequit?
15:15.25znfrleader was all, "stop dying to aftershock!!!"
15:15.26znfI died once...
15:15.44Stanzillayeah you should really stop doing that man
15:15.48znf(you really can't see shit on the floor with particleDensity set to 10
15:15.49znf:D
15:17.43znfGm was all "come back" but I was too pissed
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15:38.06RepoNew addon: LibPrism-1.0 - http://www.wowace.com/addons/libprism-1-0/
15:41.45Humbedoohaaw, and here I thought it was a data mining mod :(
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15:48.08quiescens/blame humbedooh
15:49.12Torhaladds "goto goto" in Humbedooh's source.
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15:52.30AiueBut it would require a pickaxe to mine. :o
15:55.12znfI play Diablo3 once a month.. and every time I play it, I get spammed by a million b.net invites
15:55.16znf(in wow)
15:55.23znfwell, on b.net anyway
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16:09.02znfwtf
16:09.24znfI just got a text message, that someone invites me to something
16:09.34quiescensgrats
16:09.49znfand it's from the same short number that google uses for their notification service
16:12.26sbso google invites you to... google!?
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16:20.48quiescensgo to sleep
16:21.32MihauYou go to sleep.  :O
16:30.22Ackisinvites znf to his pants.
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17:03.50znfStanzilla, what's "Relaunch Chrome in Windows 8 mode"?
17:04.00TorhalMetro
17:04.00znfOH GOD MY EYES
17:04.00Stanzillametro mode
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17:04.31znfthat is just... wrong :-|
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17:07.00Stanzillait's chromeos inside windows
17:07.02Stanzillakinda cool
17:09.37znfwish I had a wildstar beta invite
17:09.40znfI'm really really bored
17:11.38znfStanzilla, is there a stress-test this weekend? :o
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17:12.01Stanzillahow the fuck would I know
17:12.20znfso mean :(
17:12.33Stanzillabut yes there is
17:13.22znfme wants :-/
17:14.00znfStanzilla, oh, btw, can you click on the tabs in gmail in your chrome dev?
17:14.17Stanzillayes
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17:15.14znfmeh, broken in canary
17:15.54StanzillaI still don't get why you use canary as main browser
17:16.01Stanzillayou can't even make it the default browser on windows :D
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17:25.55znfStanzilla, ofc you can :D
17:26.02znfit is my default browser
17:26.47Stanzillaah well
17:26.56Stanzillaprobably because its a secondary installation here
17:27.27znfno, you can make it default from windows
17:28.15znfYou can't make it default from the browser itself, true
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17:39.24znfsb, stop being bad and go play Wildstar beta so you can get your hands on some friend keys.
17:43.56Gnarfozthere is no wildstar beta running currently
17:44.10Gnarfozunless they stealthily started the winter beta already
17:45.51znfStanzilla, you seen this? http://i.imgur.com/uznguhy.jpg
17:46.12znfGnarfoz, http://www.reddit.com/r/wildstar  says there is a stress test this weekend
17:47.12Gnarfozznf: gimme!
17:47.18znfI wish :(
17:47.23znfsb has one, and he's not playing it
17:47.46znf"These new invitees are also being given "buddy" keys to give to friends.
17:47.46znf"
17:48.27Gnarfozsb should get me one for getting him a ChromeCast, then! :D
17:48.37Stanzillaznf: what is it? exploit?
17:48.54znfStanzilla, what exploit?
17:48.57znfoh, no
17:48.59znfthe UI
17:49.05nevcairielits terribly fugly
17:49.06znfwarcraft3-ish
17:49.20nevcairielso much space wasted
17:49.26Stanzillameh
17:49.36Stanzillahe just slapped the texture in there
17:49.42nevcairielchat window is way too small
17:49.43Stanzilladidn't even take the time to adjust the rest of the UI to it
17:49.49nevcairielhalf the line is used by name and time
17:50.25Gnarfozhmmm, CPU and GPU not even at remotely worrisome temperatures after mining Litecoin all day, nice
17:50.59nevcairielwith all the serious miners using special mining ASICs, is it even worth doing it on general purpose hardware? :p
17:51.00GnarfozI should log temperature tonight/tomorrow (instead of thinking of looking right after stopping both miners... :D)
17:51.03Stanzillaa friend of mine used to have a similiar UI
17:51.09Gnarfozthere is no Litecoin ASICs or FPGAs
17:51.18Stanzillaznf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlNjqPoI6Q0
17:51.18znfyet!
17:51.19Gnarfozit uses scrypt
17:51.22Stanzillaeven one of our best videos
17:51.24Stanzillalove the music
17:51.34nevcairielone thing i have always wondered
17:51.41nevcairielhow does generating money from cpu cycles even make sense?
17:51.43Gnarfozznf: even if it happens, it's going to be way less profitable than Bitcoin, because scrypt uses memory
17:51.53Gnarfoznevcairiel: it's a reward
17:51.57znffor what? :P
17:52.00Gnarfozthe actual thing you're doing is keeping the network alive
17:52.01Gnarfozfor that ^
17:52.12Gnarfozyou're verifying transactions by other users
17:52.26Stanzillaman those were the good times
17:52.26Gnarfozthat's the data in the blocks
17:52.30Stanzillawith our old raid lead
17:52.33Stanzillaand wotlk <3
17:52.37Gnarfozanyway, gotta reset my internet
17:52.44znfWhat I suspect is that you're somehow hashing a billion of strings, and feeding those hashes to a password cracking database!
17:52.56Stanzillainstant goosebumps
17:53.00znfStanzilla, meh, this canary has broken flash, too :D
17:53.09Stanzilladunno
17:53.15Stanzillaworked fine when I tested it yesteday
17:53.18Stanzillathe fix is in
17:53.23znfvideo doesn't play for me
17:53.36Stanzillamore broken stuff I guess
17:59.10StanzillaDEM SHIVERS
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18:48.49Stanzilla"so we agreed we're not merging this for now riight?" re: chrome crash when updating drivers
18:48.51Stanzillathose guys man
18:48.53Stanzillaso stupid
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18:49.51nevcairielyou have no idea how software development works, but judging is always easy, eh? :P
18:56.10Stanzillafrom their comments I can see that some of them just don't test stuff and only assume shit
18:56.43Stanzillaand their reason for not merging is that it doesnt fix it for amd cards, too
18:56.55FiskerWhy is that bad reasoning?
18:56.58Stanzillaso their decision to keep both broken instead of one is imo stupid
18:57.06FiskerI disagree
18:57.10Stanzillaok
18:57.27MegalonI agree to disagree an the agreed disagreement
18:57.32FiskerIt suggests something is broken and their fix is a hack for nvidia specifically
19:00.08StanzillaANGLE did not have proper support for device removed
19:00.12Stanzillathat's what they changed
19:00.17Stanzillaand it was enough to fix it for nv cards
19:02.22nevcairielbut possibly not the correct fix
19:04.23nevcairielhalf-assed fixes are in many cases worse then leaving it broken for a short while longer
19:05.54znfOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH I FIGURED OUT WHY I'M IPV6 TAGGED
19:06.05znfI MEAN GERMANY TAGGED
19:06.07Megaloncause u terrorist?
19:06.10znfBECAUSE I'M USING IPV6
19:06.20Megalonseems like ipv6 is capslock only too
19:06.30znfYES
19:06.31Megalonbig bytes only
19:07.21nevcairielusing a german tunnel provider? :P
19:07.52znfnevcairiel, yeah...
19:08.01nevcairieltook you long enough to figure out
19:08.33Stanzillaalso you guys might be right, I'm just raging atm because battlefield4 is such a piece of buggy shit
19:08.35znfI'm impressed google runs so much stuff on ipv6
19:08.36Stanzillathen the email came in
19:08.43Stanzillaand I was like NOT YOUR TOO CHROME DEVS
19:08.44StanzillaDONT FAIL ME
19:08.52Stanzilla-r
19:09.07Stanzillaand nevcairiel hurt my feeligns :(
19:09.24nevcairielagain? that gets easier every day!
19:10.05Megaloni only know one feeling: hunger
19:10.06nevcairielman it sure is getting windy outside
19:11.55nevcairieland apparently it started snowing
19:11.58nevcairielsees nothing
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19:14.57StanzillaOH GOD
19:14.57StanzillaSendMailMailButton:Click()
19:14.57Stanzillawhy
19:14.57Stanzillawhyyyy
19:15.12nevcairieloh yeah i figured that was possible
19:15.59nevcairielprobably some more default ui mail functions that need looking into
19:16.15Stanzillanevcairiel: can I just block Click()?
19:16.26nevcairielno
19:16.30Stanzillafuck
19:17.16Stanzillacan I prevent it from being able to touch Framesomething?
19:22.04nevcairielits a bit complicated
19:22.10Semlarsure you can just make a local version of the SendMailButton
19:22.33nevcairieli mean sure, you can block SendMailMailButton
19:22.55nevcairielbut they could still try to find the frame by iterating over all frames or trying to get there through some parent/children checks
19:23.17nevcairielframes are stupid that way
19:23.42Semlarnot if you block every api function!
19:23.55Semlarbwahaha
19:24.34nevcairielyou could hook the original SendMail and ensure its never called from within WA
19:24.34Stanzillanevcairiel: do you think there is a proper solution to this?
19:24.44Semlargive up?
19:25.07Semlarmake it slightly more difficult to share arbitrary code
19:28.30znfok, how do I fix it?
19:28.47Semlarfix what
19:28.52znfmy ipv6 issue :D
19:29.27Semlarcould you be more specific
19:29.46nevcairielturn ipv6 off
19:30.05znfSemlar, for the last year or so, google was tagging me as being german. So that meant all google services were catered to german users, including blocked youtube videos because of GEMA.
19:30.09znfnevcairiel, without doing that
19:30.17nevcairielwhy do you need it anyway
19:30.20nevcairielits still pretty useless
19:30.28Semlarwhy does google think you're german
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19:31.04znfSemlar, my ipv6 is german, because my tunnel broker's end point is in frankfurt
19:31.24Semlaryou can't exit somewhere else?
19:32.12Semlaryou can't fix this without tunneling to an ip in another country
19:32.25znfdunno, looking now
19:32.43Semlari mean, the service is basing your location off your ip address so there isn't much you can do
19:34.08znfI could block all google's services IPv6 in my dns server
19:35.50znfow, they're retiring @Ghostcrawler
19:46.50Stanzillanevcairiel: do you want to help out with this?
19:46.59Stanzilla(again)
19:47.02nevcairielits impossible
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19:47.37znfaw, I have to reconfigure my tunnel completely if I want to move it :(
19:48.15Stanzillanevcairiel: "you could hook the original SendMail and ensure its never called from within WA" that not bulletproof enough either?
19:48.21nevcairielno
19:48.50Stanzilladamn :/
19:49.29Semlarsendmail is not half as bad as other pranks you can pull by executing random code
19:50.14Semlarso you may want to focus on the sharing aspect
19:50.29Torhal@project arl
19:50.41nevcairielit is kinda useful to be able to post a config on a forum and share it with the world
19:50.46RepoTorhal: [WoW] Ackis Recipe List (Updated Nov 24, 2013 at 0:18 UTC) - https://www.wowace.com/addons/arl/
19:50.55nevcairieli would be way too lazy to set up all the stuff myself
19:50.59Semlarmaybe if it were actually possible to see what the code did
19:51.22Stanzillathat is possible
19:51.30Stanzillathere are 2 export methods, lua table and string
19:51.37Stanzillabut ingame sharing is still a problem then
19:51.58nevcairielblizz should just make sendmail secure and be done with it
19:52.07Semlarthat's not really the issue here
19:52.25nevcairielor ban WA
19:52.26nevcairiel:P
19:56.54Stanzillathat's actually the least likely solution
19:57.18Semlarit's not really a solution, either
19:57.53Stanzillanevcairiel: when I just want to block SendMailMailButton from being used, how do I do that?
19:59.24Semlarstrip the word "mail" out of every script
20:00.54Semlarah there's a solution, you don't even have to bother using setfenv to sandbox it, you just have to blacklist the function names you don't want them using and strip it out of every imported script
20:01.39nevcairiel_G["Send".."Mail"]() ?
20:01.50Semlarstrip _G?
20:02.13nevcairielits the same problem as the environment, you cant strip everything
20:02.35Semlaryou can break 90% of malicious scripts
20:03.09nevcairielyou can try to get the same amount of things as an environment would, and with more effort
20:03.26nevcairieland as long as there is one way, it'll find its way into scripts
20:03.35Semlarthis is a substantially simpler solution than making an environment
20:03.41nevcairielnot really
20:03.55Semlaruh you literally just need a blacklist of words they aren't allowed to use in their script
20:03.57nevcairielyou need to break more things that you would otherwise not need to break anyway
20:04.02Semlarit doesn't matter
20:04.15Semlarthis would only affect imported scripts
20:04.20nevcairieland an environment is the same, its literally just a blacklist of cuntions or symbols they are not allowed to get to
20:04.28nevcairielfunctions*
20:04.55nevcairielexcept that any string tricks they try to pull to hide it in the script body are meaningless
20:05.32znfSemlar, how about doing chr(xx) .. chr(xx) ? :>
20:06.05znfuntil you get SendMail? :D
20:06.07Semlarthere are no string tricks you can pull by blacklisting the global environment
20:06.25Semlaryou blacklist _G and getfenv or whatever else you can use to get it
20:06.30Semlarand that's it
20:06.33Semlarthere is nothing they can do
20:06.39nevcairielsure there is
20:06.48Semlarlike what
20:06.55Semlarhow are they going to call a global function
20:07.15nevcairielthey can iterate over all children of UIParent to find the mail frame, from there go to the send button, and click it
20:07.21Semlarno they can't
20:07.24nevcairielyes they can
20:07.32Semlarnot if you strip out those functions from the script
20:07.43Semlarthat's what i'm saying
20:07.48nevcairielwrite something that you think is secure, and i'll show you how to break it
20:07.58Semlaryou can literally blacklist every enumerateframe, getchildren, whatever just with a list of words you don't want
20:08.10Semlarthere is no way around this
20:08.16Stanzillado it, Semlar D
20:08.18nevcairielUIParent["E".."numerateFrame"]()
20:08.24nevcairieland you cant blacklist  UIParent
20:08.29nevcairielsince its needed
20:08.45nevcairielits for scripts that are supposed to be able to show notification frames and stuff like that
20:08.47nevcairielit needs UIParent
20:10.08Semlarthen it's back to whitelisting the only functions you want them to be able to use
20:10.22nevcairielwell i'm not dealing with that
20:10.51Semlari still think this is more an issue with being able to import scripts you can't read
20:11.15Semlarif someone posts a script on a forum or something it should be readable
20:11.44Semlarit may not be as convenient but it would make it more difficult to trick people
20:12.23Semlari don't know what methods you can use to share them in-game but that probably could be restricted a bit
20:12.45nevcairielusers are dumb, but i guess they might get suspicious if there is loads of weird code somewhere
20:13.32znfHow about a warning? "This aura contains custom code!"
20:13.47znfMost people's auras don't contain custom Lua
20:14.17Semlaroh?
20:14.38Semlarthen it should be quite easy to fix
20:15.08Semlarjust make it so you can't share scripts with custom lua in game
20:16.19nevcairielmaybe the custom code should not be sharable at all
20:16.54znfwhat about importing them by copy/pasting?
20:17.23znfSemlar, WA can import from encoded strings, from unencoded (?!), or in-game by clicking a link
20:17.24Semlari would allow that but only if it's in plain text and they should definitely be aware of it
20:17.37nevcairielmaybe even a confirmation box
20:17.40znfauras in plain text are huge :P
20:17.46nevcairielthis aura includes custom code. do you really trust the source?
20:17.54znfyup ^
20:18.23Semlarthe problem is if it's compressed you have absolutely no idea what you're importing
20:18.32Semlarunless it shows what it is in-game
20:18.47znfofc it does show in-game
20:18.58nevcairielwell oyu have to go and find all the custom code
20:19.01Semlarif it's posted on a forum it's not like someone can see what it does before they go to import it
20:19.04nevcairielyou can hide code in rather obscure places
20:19.04znfonce you import it, you can see all the code
20:23.15Stanzilla@AndroidPolice: Looks like 4.4.1 is rolling out to the Nexus 5 starting today: http://t.co/3Iwkejyl4I
20:24.33znfStanzilla, I get no hw video decoding again in chrome, works for you?
20:25.26Stanzilladunno
20:26.00znfsee youtube
20:26.22znfI'm running with --ppapi-flash-args=enable_hw_video_decode=1 , and nothing :-(
20:29.28Stanzillastolenlegacy_: why do you PM me when you are here? :D
20:29.36stolenlegacy_because i derk
20:29.37stolenlegacy_derp
20:29.39znfderp!
20:29.50stolenlegacyyea that
20:30.01Stanzillastolenlegacy: yeah basicly you can just :Click the button
20:30.05Stanzillaand there is no real way to fix that
20:30.28stolenlegacytoo many ways to access the button?
20:30.39stolenlegacyor hm iterate through uiparent children i guess
20:30.40Stanzillayes
20:30.51nevcairielbest way seems to be to try to warn the user with a big confirmation dialog when he imports auras with custom scripts
20:31.11stolenlegacyyou have a very optimistic perception of how much users think when they see big confirmation dialogs
20:31.21stolenlegacyusers are trained to click "okay"
20:31.34Stanzillajust switch okay and cancel buttons :D
20:31.35nevcairielwell what can you do
20:31.39Stanzillaor name them
20:31.45Stanzillacancel and cancelnot
20:31.48nevcairielpreventing it seems impossible
20:32.49stolenlegacyyeah, you can hardly prevent access to uiparent
20:32.55znfwell, not really
20:32.57stolenlegacyand even if you could i'm assuming you could getparent chain from the self itself
20:33.05znfrecently users are a bit more aware of this
20:33.18stolenlegacya small minority of users that read forums are
20:33.34stolenlegacywhich are 5%, optimistically speaking
20:34.48znfbut, suddenly having a pop-up text about custom code will make users warry
20:35.01stolenlegacylots of auras have custom code thoug
20:35.02stolenlegacyh
20:35.04stolenlegacythey'll get used to it
20:35.11stolenlegacyhmm would replacing :click on mailframe sendmail button taint anything
20:35.21znflike? Most auras I see on forums have absolutely no custom code
20:35.27znfthey're simple triggers
20:35.35nevcairielstolenlegacy: nah probably no taint, but what good would that do?
20:35.43stolenlegacytrue you could just grab the .click from anywhere else
20:35.49stolenlegacyand call that with the button as arg1
20:36.31nevcairielSendMail is also called in one StaticPopup dialog
20:36.58stolenlegacynot entirely familiar with lua fenv - how far does it extend
20:37.05stolenlegacydo functions called execute in the same environment as the calling function?
20:37.10nevcairielno
20:37.14nevcairielthats the problem
20:37.26nevcairielits only for the function you call it on
20:37.36nevcairielor any functions defined inside this, of course
20:37.47nevcairielbut nothing that existed before
20:38.04stolenlegacyin that case you don't need to click anything to circumvent though
20:38.10stolenlegacyjust call that /dump handler thing that does loadstring()
20:38.21stolenlegacyand bam circumvented the fenv
20:38.24stolenlegacyunless i'm missing something
20:38.40znfdamn it, now I'm getting all these replies on twitter :-/
20:38.44nevcairielhm i wasnt actually sure how loading behaves
20:38.49nevcairielloadstring*
20:39.06nevcairielbut could blacklist the dump functioon as well, that wouldnt be the big issue i hope
20:39.20stolenlegacyyou'd have to blacklist slashcmdlist
20:39.22nevcairielbut its all pointless anyway,  you would need a whitelist, and thats impossible to maintain
20:39.27stolenlegacyyeah true
20:39.40stolenlegacyand even if the second you expose anything that's a child of a child etc of uiparent
20:42.44stolenlegacyhm could you add a preclick on the send mail button
20:42.53stolenlegacyand set money amount to zero if debugstack() shows a custom aura?
20:44.06nevcairieli had that idea, but: CreateFrame("Frame"):SetScript("OnUpdate", SendAllTheMoneyzzz) ... stack scrubed!
20:44.26znfjust warn the assholes and wash your hands
20:45.10znf"This aura contains custom code that could erase your char, destroy your gear, steal your gold, rape your cat!!!! Are you sure you want to import?!"
20:45.22stolenlegacyfunction RapeCat(uID)
20:45.25stolenlegacyTIL
20:46.03znf90 games on steam, and I have no idea what to play
20:46.38znfwant some wildstar :(
20:47.34znfand for some reasons steam.exe doesn't want to start
20:54.55Gnarfozanyone have a Malkorok Blood Rage WeakAura?
20:55.06Gnarfoz(that shows how far in, in seconds we are, preferrably)
20:55.16Gnarfozthe buff doesn't have a remaining time, it runs out when his rage runs out
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21:11.21Repoweakauras-2: 03stanzilla * r21 Transmission.lua:
21:11.21Repowarn for every aura that is sent by other players and uses a custom trigger.
21:13.22Gnarfozblanket approach
21:13.23Gnarfoz:D
21:14.18Torhalcovers Gnarfoz in a blanket of mozzarella sticks.
21:14.24GnarfozI like
21:14.29TorhalHaha
21:14.30Gnarfozeven though I'll only be able to eat 3
21:14.38Gnarfozwhen's your birthday?
21:14.58Torhal19 days.
21:15.23Gnarfozoh, I misremembered, then :D
21:15.39TorhalHow badly?
21:20.26GnarfozI thought it was in early December
21:21.40Stanzillabirthday on xmas?
21:21.42Stanzilladaamn
21:21.57znfGnarfoz, make one that checks boss1 resource?
21:22.59Gnarfozznf: yeah, I've nearly figured it out, but I only have like 30-60 seconds between pulls to work on this aura ;p
21:23.04Gnarfozso I was asking if someone had one
21:23.18Stanzillahttp://android.clients.google.com/packages/ota/google_hammerhead/7ed504f678cea49ecf0974e8cd956e2974e3f943.signed-hammerhead-KOT49E-from-KRT16M.7ed504f6.zip
21:23.23znfdidn't use one, so meh...
21:23.30znfwhat's hammerhead? N5?
21:23.30Gnarfozyou're not tanking, are you? :p
21:23.41znfnope, I'm happily DPS-ing
21:24.09Stanzillan5, yes
21:24.52znfstop. including. me. in. ghostcrawlers. tweets. :(
21:25.14znfwhy the f* did I bother to tweet him that
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21:55.14Megalonwhat did you tweet znf
21:55.45znfMegalon, just asked GC if he used that name before
22:00.08Stanzillahttp://click.xda-developers.com/api/click?format=go&key=f0a7f91912ae2b52e0700f73990eb321&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.xda-developers.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D2554082%26page%3D3&v=1&libId=814beba7-2b5f-4dc6-bffd-b87899cd68d3&out=http%3A%2F%2Fr17---sn-hp576n7z.c.android.clients.google.com%2Fpackages%2Fdata%2Fota%2Fgoogle_mako%2F0896df95085b6ad55bbe4694a612da0c6ed2fa1c.signed-occam-KOT49E-from-KRT16S.089
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22:17.05MegalonTROJAN! WORM! SPAM!
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22:29.13znfstop stealing my passwords, Stanzilla :(
22:29.27Stanzillayou don't even have a proper phone
22:29.37Stanzillano use in clicking it anyway :D
22:33.01znf:-(
22:33.05znfmeanie
22:45.01Funkeh`proper phone?
22:45.48StanzillaFunkeh`: he has an old iphone
22:45.53Stanzillathat's certainly not a proper one
22:46.14Funkeh`what's a proper one?
22:46.24MegalonN*
22:46.37Funkeh`:X
22:46.48znfI have an iPhone 4s :(
22:47.05Megalonlol, classic backwoods eastern europe
22:47.06Funkeh`oh no?
22:47.23MegalonNO ANDROID 4.4.1 FOR YOU, SCUM!
22:47.44Torhalconverts Megalon into an iPod Touch.
22:48.04MegalonGabeN GIVE ME POWER
22:48.39znfMegalon, stop making fun of me :(
22:48.46Stanzillaznf: http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1094641-meet-chrome-next/?view=findpost&p=596146647
22:50.21znfgood
22:50.32znfthere were some annoying css issues, too
22:50.36znflike the reddit bar flickering
22:50.47znfor the amazon bar going bleeding in the content :P
22:51.46Funkeh`the fix is don't use the dev channel
22:51.50MegalonAn unarmed, emotionally disturbed man shot at by the police as he was lurching around traffic near Times Square in September has been charged with assault, on the theory that he was responsible for bullet wounds suffered by two bystanders
22:51.54Megalon'MURRICA!
22:52.18znfI don't mind stuff like that
22:52.20StanzillaFunkeh`: in his case he is using the thing that is more broken than dev
22:52.24znfalso, I'm not using dev :P
22:52.29znfdev is for Stanzilla
22:52.45Stanzillayeah I sometimes want to use my browser to browse websites
22:52.49Stanzillaso it cant be broken all the time
22:52.54znfI like having a non-functional browser 2 out of 7 days
22:53.07Funkeh`hokay
22:53.42znfCanary is not that bad now... a year ago I couldn't even start it 2 out of 7 days :D
23:01.16znfsb, y u no wildstar?
23:03.17znfStanzilla, why are nameplates so bad at tracking dots? :(
23:03.30Stanzillamine work fine
23:03.36Stanzillaand because nameplates have no unit token
23:23.59PrimerI wish there was a way to make nameplates less "jumpy"
23:24.30Funkeh`you can try the different modes
23:25.09znfall 3 modes suck :(
23:25.15Primerstacking, spreading, and overlapping are the only ones, and...that
23:25.30znfOverlapping are... horrible, as you can't really click them individually anymore
23:25.34znfSpreading are... too jumpy
23:25.54znfand stacking, well, they stack on each other until they go out of your viewport
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23:26.29znfinstead of doing something like [x] [x] [x] [x]
23:26.32PrimerIs there no way to control their positioning via an addon?
23:26.34znfthey go
23:26.34znf[x]
23:26.36znf[x]
23:26.59znfPrimer, no :(
23:29.13znfStanzilla, did you notice that when you multi-dot a bunch of mobs, and if you tab to another one while casting VT on the previous one, the previous name-plate won't get the dot on it? :(
23:30.23Stanzillaznf: it's updating via mouseover so I'm always hovering my mouse around those plates to get them to update
23:30.25Stanzillaso no
23:30.31Stanzillaalso I track dots on the boss frames, too
23:30.36znfhuh? that never happens for me :-|
23:30.46znfI hover and doesn't work :(
23:30.54znfI don't have a problem with boss fights, I have a problem with fights with adds
23:31.32znfI mean, ads @ Nazgrim, for example
23:32.47Stanzillano problem with that
23:33.30znfwish they would just implement dot tracking in their code :-/
23:33.42znfand better positioning!
23:35.33StanzillaI wish I could fly
23:36.00Stanzillaand be invisible
23:36.11znfwhy invisible?
23:37.36Stanzillayou can do all sorts of cool stuff when you can't be seen
23:37.56znfperv...
23:38.36Stanzilla...
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23:39.18Stanzillagn8

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