IRC log for #wowace on 20131202

00:19.06znfAdirelle, it looks to me like you were coding, actually!
00:20.05znfhmmm, this is weird, even though my UI Scale was set to "1", unchecking "Use UI Scale" actually made text look better
00:20.55Funkeh`I thought you're generally NOT meant to use ui scale
00:28.03Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude * r11678 SiegeOfOrgrimmar/ShaOfPride.lua: ShaOfPride: reword projection message (needs translated)
00:33.49Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude * r11679 SiegeOfOrgrimmar/Norushen.lua:
00:33.49RepoNorushen: don't sometimes trigger a p2 soon message for healers going into the other realm.
00:54.49znfFunkeh`, I used to use it a while ago, I was at 0.85; then I did some changes in my UI and I went back to 1.0
00:54.58znfnever bothered to uncheck it
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01:11.12nebula169i've always had a ui scale set
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01:26.21Sintackshttp://puu.sh/5zoy2.png
01:26.22Sintacksyay
02:26.37Funkeh`ok Stanzilla I expanded the taint fix to include the action bar config functions
02:29.24Funkeh`I'm wondering if it would be worthwhile to shove in a combat delay
02:32.16Funkeh`http://pastebin.com/E7kRHiqZ
02:35.14Funkeh`fixes compact unit frame and action bars, I'm not sure if there's anything else
02:48.08Funkeh`ok delay seems to work ok
02:48.21Funkeh`which is great because that makes it even more functional than in is now
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03:31.12Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude * r11680 SiegeOfOrgrimmar/Thok.lua: Thok: Fix LFR screech times.
03:44.27Reposhadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.9.1-10-ga0cf372  (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Random performance tracking code that I can re-enable when wanted
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04:09.43MysticalOSFunkeh`, you going to put that in libchatanims
04:10.06Funkeh`most likely
04:10.15MysticalOSor maybe notaint. heck merge some of that stuff together heh. really just need a notaint lib version as you say
04:10.56MysticalOSlibFixBlizzardsShitTaints-1.0
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04:46.44Repoora3: 03nebula169 * r711 modules/RoleIcons.lua:
04:46.45RepoRoleIcons: hide totals when not in a raid, class color names in tooltip
04:46.54MysticalOSOH, ora3 bug
04:47.01nebula169?
04:47.02MysticalOSsort latency by home or world, is pretty darn useless
04:47.06MysticalOSit sorts by first number only
04:47.08MysticalOSnot the entire numbe
04:47.14nebula169o.O
04:47.53MysticalOSso it performs an alpha numeric sort instead of a pure number sort
04:49.38MysticalOSonly noticed it cause we have 4 poeple tonight who are over 2k :)
04:49.44MysticalOSsome serious US ISP issues tonight
04:52.14nebula169<PROTECTED>
04:53.00nebula169unless the comm did it
04:53.40nebula169yeeea
04:58.08Repoora3: 03nebula169 * r712  (3 files in 1 directory):
04:58.08Repotonumber numeric list values since they get left as strings when split in comms
04:59.44nebula169MysticalOS: fixed, thanks
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07:56.42mitch0.
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08:07.14Timmeh.
08:07.38ZaB|SHC|.
08:45.50haste.
08:50.40StanzillaFunkeh`: cool
08:51.58nevcairielits not like it really fixes stuff, if you never opened the options it doesnt change anything :D
08:56.54Fisker.
09:29.17sb.
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09:31.21winksb: related: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115726/period-our-simplest-punctuation-mark-has-become-sign-anger
09:32.34sbheh
09:39.20quiescenso.o
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10:38.31AiueThen I guess I'll just have to come off as angry.
10:40.27quiescensgives Aiue a cookie.
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12:30.29znfgreat, somehow my config.wtf "reset"
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12:42.23winkwhy don't you have it in git? :)
12:42.57winksays alot about the state of things. Back in LK I used to have whole WTF and Interface dir in git and only updated addons one by one
12:43.19znfmeh, I did some changes to it last night...
12:43.25znfI normally backup once a week or something like that
12:46.13znfwonders why his SliderControl has reverse values
12:46.29znfUp for negative, down for positive values, I don't get it
12:48.02sylvanaarwink we did that same thing in 2005/6 with svn
12:50.22sylvanaarwink you have a bunch of subrepos for your addons? or a separate unrelated git repo and use some other updater still
12:50.51winksylvanaar: I don't bother anymore. I just backup the whole directory pre-major-patch
12:51.11winkif I would still do it, then 1 git repo in WoW folder with both subfolders. no submodules
12:51.50sylvanaaryeah, it is easier to back it up
12:53.17sylvanaarsnapshots
12:54.58winkpeople have managed to produce much better addons in general I think
12:55.08winkthat means you guys!
12:55.33winkor there are more subtle bugs, but BugSack screaming and panicking is much rarer these days
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13:34.35Funkeh`nevcairiel, it does after combat
13:35.52nevcairiel?
13:36.40Funkeh`I modified it afterwards, I did say that
13:37.49nevcairielwell sure, but its not like it can actually prevent taint or anything, it just prevents the error from pressing escape
13:38.05Funkeh`thanks cpt obvious
13:38.19nevcairieland Stanzilla is one to over-value such fixes and assume it fixes every taint related to those areas he ever saw
13:38.47Funkeh`it fixes the errors caused by the tainted execution path, that is all
13:39.25StanzillaI'm not :(
13:39.51Funkeh`yes you are, you treat these things like pixie dust
13:40.01nevcairielha
13:40.09Stanzilla...
13:40.14Funkeh`<3
13:41.44Stanzillahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcRyjkYdDxM
13:43.00Funkeh`fyi http://pastebin.com/0WZqTV6n
13:44.07Funkeh`I'm still going to wait until .2 before adding it anywhere, and I might try to cover a few more things if I can be arsed
13:45.47Funkeh`they look like they're having too much fun
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14:20.00znfthere's your chance, Stanzilla: http://www.reddit.com/r/WowUI/comments/1rv2xa/looking_to_collaborate_with_a_ui_developer/
14:27.56winknice portfolio stuff
14:28.39Repoadibuttonauras: 03Adirelle 07develop * 1.0-beta-17-5-gf49f23c  (4 files in 3 directories): [+7 commits] (3 truncated)
14:28.39Repof49f23c: Overlays: added .group to unitEvents.
14:28.39Repo7b5a32d: Overlays: only listen to MOUSEOVER_CHANGED if @mouseover appears in the conditionals.
14:28.39Repo00db3e6: Overlays: can now listen to messages, in addition to events, for updating.
14:28.39Repo4e3fe5c: Overlays: unregister all messages on action update.
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14:43.38Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude * r11681  (10 files in 2 directories): move more translations to wowace
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15:47.29Stanzillahttp://community.skype.com/t5/Android/Wrong-behaviour-in-group-conversations/m-p/2307219#M35851 < bumping for justice helps!
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16:03.18Fiskerhmm Stanzilla
16:03.30Fiskeris sepia an elaborate ruse to mess with pirates?
16:03.30Stanzillasup
16:03.35Stanzillayes
16:03.38Fiskerfuckers
16:03.48Fiskeramerican dad is like 4-5 times the size than normal :D
16:05.18Megalonthat's so stereotypical :(
16:12.08Repoadibuttonauras: 03Adirelle 07alternative_flash * 1.0-beta-17-6-gfd892f6  (30 files in 6 directories): [new, +1 commit] Use customized flash animations, to differentiate them from Blizzard ones.
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16:24.46quiescensmoo?
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16:39.09Fiskerthey fixed their shit Stanzilla
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17:02.51StanzillaFisker: what are you talking about
17:04.14Fiskergeforce experience
17:05.46StanzillaFisker: more details would help
17:06.06Fiskerthey don't use a dedicated user account for updates anymore
17:06.30Stanzillacool, since when?
17:06.50Stanzilla1.8?
17:07.49Fiskeryes
17:08.17Stanzillacoolio
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17:25.04Stanzillahttps://db.tt/Da6UnXH7
17:25.05Stanzillaheh
17:40.26Gnarfozso I should install Geforce Experience to get rid of nvidia_updatus user?
17:40.45GnarfozFunkeh`: http://pastebin.com/0WZqTV6n <-- I should put this in my random lua snippets addon, right?
17:41.26StanzillaFisker: does it work with WoW for you?
17:41.29Gnarfozwhen should it run? any particular time?
17:42.03Funkeh`you don't need to delay it at all
17:43.14Gnarfozk, I'll put it in the main chunk then
17:44.23Gnarfozhaha, I had this in there
17:44.24Gnarfoz-- Make clicking cancel the same as clicking okay
17:44.24GnarfozInterfaceOptionsFrameCancel:SetScript("OnClick", function()
17:44.24GnarfozInterfaceOptionsFrameOkay:Click()
17:44.24Gnarfozend)
17:44.27Gnarfozshould I be worried?
17:46.01nevcairielit also happens when you click escape, not sure that really goes through the cancel onclick
17:46.05Gnarfoznebula169: should I ditch your roleicons snippet, or is the ora module not ready for primetime, yet?
17:46.07nevcairiels/click/hit/
17:49.16Fiskerdoes what work Stanzilla ?
17:50.41StanzillaFisker: shadowplay
17:50.45Fiskeridk
17:50.45Fiskerdon'
17:50.48Fiskerdon't use it
17:50.49Fiskerdon't play wow
18:01.18Megalondon't don't
18:21.04winknvidia updatus sounds like some roman jerk
18:21.27Stanzillasure is
18:22.34winkTullius Updatus Invidia, Destroyer of <whatever>
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20:08.08PrimerStanzilla: You doing anything differently with shadow 4 set?
20:08.15PrimerSeems to me shadow 4 set is shit
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20:25.02nevcairielalso Fisker dont complain about increased file size, not too long ago they would've just compressed it to hell and it would've looked terrible :p
20:26.22FiskerNo complaints nevcairiel
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20:38.19Parnicyeah fisker. stop complaining.
20:38.50Fiskerhey Parnic
20:39.23Parnicheyhi
20:40.37znfPrimer, pretty much passive
20:42.41znfPrimer, actually, a tip: if you can, try to use a SWD before a MB if you have the proc
20:43.14Primerok
20:44.02znfas SWD is more damage than MB
20:47.38PrimerIt's not entirely clear if the buff is removed after the first MB/SW:D/MS
20:48.06PrimerFrom the wording
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20:48.20PrimerWe've had an abysmal drop rate for conq
20:48.30PrimerOur druid has 4 set in 4 specs
20:48.34PrimerThat's how bad it's been
20:48.54PrimerIf it weren't for celestials I still wouldn't have 4 set
20:49.18StanzillaPrimer: only sometimes delay a SW:D for when you have the bonus up
20:49.37PrimerStanzilla: that's what I was thinking of doing
20:49.42Stanzillagood
20:49.51Stanzillanevcairiel: what were you talking about?
20:52.46znfPrimer, it's removed
20:52.55znfit's a one-time buff
20:54.20Primerheh, I guess it'd be OP if it weren't
20:55.36PrimerI'm starting to drop in the DPS meters as my guildies get more geared.
20:55.43PrimerSP just sucks right now
20:57.21Stanzillayeah
20:57.26Stanzillaon single target that is
20:57.43PrimerI still own on protectors
20:57.57Stanzillayeah if you have bad warlocks you own there indeed :D
20:58.38Primerwe're 10 man, and our lock gquit, but he never beat me
20:59.01Stanzillaok
20:59.06PrimerHe theorycrafted a lot, ran sims, but never did good DPS
20:59.46Stanzillayeah well affliction is just insane there
20:59.50Stanzillabut shadow does fine, too
21:15.05Semlarlocks are op
21:31.17Repobrez: 03funkydude * r115 bRez.lua: seems like flex is 3 resses no matter what.
21:34.06znfAs Shadow at the moment I feel like I'm taking a raid spot for nothing
21:34.44znfat Malkorok the only thing I'm good for is soaking orbs *shrug*
21:47.05Primerznf: I'm lucky in that most everyone else in my raid sucks, and I still top DPS on many fights
21:47.31PrimerBut we don't do heroics yet. In fact, we only killed Garrosh for the first time last week :/
21:49.03Stanzillathat is sad indeed
21:49.48PrimerWe're 10 man, only raid 2 nights a week, and have been plagued by second-night attendance issues.
21:51.13Primerand...we suck
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21:55.33Primerheh, reviewing our WoL...I topped damage on protectors, sha, gala, iron jugg, general, and malk
21:55.37Primerthat's how bad we are
21:56.13PrimerI'd probably top siegecrafter too if I wasn't a conveyor person
21:57.24PrimerStanzilla/znf: Have you switched to using FDCL on fights where you wouldn't have before now that you have 4 set?
21:57.32znfno
21:57.49znfthe only fight where it's fun to use FDCL is Protectors
21:58.21PrimerI thought FDCL was more for high movement fights
21:58.23znfthough I don't think it's optimal, dps wise
21:58.31znfand which is that in SoO? :P
21:58.40PrimerI don't even move on protectors...but then again, not heroic
21:59.04znfFDCL is good where you don't have time to use SWI
21:59.16znfon protectors you multi-dot everything, doesn't really leave much room for SWI
22:00.05StanzillaPrimer: I almost always use FDCL because I hate S&I
22:00.24Primerheh
22:00.45PrimerI love bursting at the start of a fight with SW:I
22:00.49PrimerI always pull aggro
22:01.01znfyou're pulling wrong, then :P
22:01.02nebula169bad tanks
22:01.13Primernaw, I'm doing like 800k DPS
22:01.21Stanzillabad tanks
22:01.22Stanzilla:D
22:01.31nebula169our shaman does 1.8m dps at the start of a fight, i'm still miles ahead of him
22:01.36znfon a /pull 10, I fade @ 4s; pre-pot at 2.1, use Halo at 2.0, then Mind Blast
22:01.36Primerwell, that's what I keep saying...WTB MORE TANK AGGRO
22:02.00Stanzillawhy the fade
22:02.03Primernebula169: at the start of a single target fight?
22:02.11nebula169yes
22:02.13znfStanzilla, tanks happen
22:02.17nebula169acendence is broken
22:02.17StanzillaPrimer: yes, shamans are crazy
22:02.51Primerour healer that goes DPS does so as an elemental sham, and his burst is crazy on Garrosh
22:03.02Primerbut then he's just constantly AOEing
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22:04.26PrimerIf I'm starting with 2-3 orbs, I usually dot up first to avoid aggro, but even then: pot, PI, halo, VT, SW:P, MB, SW:I...and eventually fade because I've pulled aggro
22:04.52Primerbut yeah, tank should salvation me, but never does
22:04.54Stanzillaeven having to think about aggro is bad imo
22:05.28Primerand yes, I still use PI on most fights
22:05.41Primerbecause of SW:I + PI...I still get better numbers with that
22:05.42Stanzillathat is bad, too :D
22:06.19Primerwell, this is why I like talking to you guys. I can't stand to read shit online, because you can find a case for every spec combo
22:06.27Primerall claiming to be better than the other
22:06.51PrimerWhile I know I'm technically still "reading shit online" here...it's interactive :)
22:06.58Stanzillayeah well on some fights you can argue talent choices
22:07.08Stanzillabut most of them are best done with ToF
22:07.13Stanzillathat talent is just too good
22:08.19znfPrimer, PI is retarded :-/
22:08.21znfsorry bro
22:09.09znfon that tier there's only 2 choices: DI or ToF
22:09.14znfIf there's ads, you want ToF
22:09.21znfif there's no ads, then DI
22:09.36znfDI gives you more orbs for SWI
22:09.45Stanzilla(and I even ToF on juggernaut because it procs of heals, too)
22:09.53Stanzillaf
22:09.54Stanzillaffff
22:09.55Stanzillamore fffffs
22:10.10znfI had that idea, but I was too lazy to hunt for low-healths :P
22:10.55Gnarfozanyone know the name of the recent-ish WoL competitor?
22:11.07Stanzillaznf: no need to hunt with self pom and ds/halo
22:11.13StanzillaGnarfoz: warcraftlogs.com
22:11.33Gnarfozis it any good?
22:11.44znfpfft, CBA to PoM!
22:11.44GnarfozI just saw the name thrown around just before I went to the US
22:11.49Stanzillayes
22:11.59znfoh, it's written in AIR
22:12.35PrimerCool. I'll definitely give ToF and DI more thought in the next raid.
22:12.54Stanzillahttp://mashable.com/2013/12/02/morgan-freeman-ipad-fingerpaint/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link
22:12.56Stanzillaholy shit
22:13.46znfoh, how nice!
22:13.51znfyou can have "personal" logs
22:14.09Stanzillayes
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22:16.16znflet's see how it looks/works
22:18.12Semlarwe still haven't killed garrosh and i don't know why
22:18.26Semlarit sure as hell ain't my fault i'm awesome
22:18.36Stanzillanormal?
22:18.38znfgo heroic 1st boss :P
22:18.41Semlarnormal
22:18.42znfit's easier than garrosh
22:18.48Stanzilla:(
22:19.01Semlari think it's our healers
22:19.38Semlarhow do you do the final phase
22:19.47nebula169kill him as fast as possible
22:19.48Primerdon't die
22:19.51nebula169lol
22:19.54Stanzillakite adds and zerg
22:19.55Stanzillalol
22:20.00PrimerSemlar: 10 man?
22:20.00Semlaryou just ignore the adds
22:20.10nebula169yea, pretty much
22:20.11Stanzillayes
22:20.21Semlardo you have someone pick them up or just completely ignore them
22:20.34Stanzillathe tank
22:20.53Semlarour tanks were saying there is no way in hell they could solo tank garrosh
22:21.04Semlarat the end
22:21.23Semlarbut if a tank picks up the adds they're going to be next to the boss
22:21.31Stanzillano
22:21.35Stanzillahe just runs around with them
22:21.53Semlarand if he's kiting them then the other one is solo tanking him
22:22.07Stanzillacorrect
22:22.14Stanzillafor the last few percent that's no big deal
22:22.57Semlarbut when the final phase starts you just ignore adds completely
22:23.08Semlarfor the entire final 30%
22:23.14Primeraye
22:23.18Semlarokay
22:23.20nebula169yea, its a dps race at that point
22:23.28PrimerHero, pots, cds, all on Garrosh
22:23.56znfError: Unable to generate a chart.
22:23.56Semlaryeah our problem is we keep using bloodlust at the beginning and don't have it at the end
22:24.02znfso much for warcraftlogs :(
22:24.03Semlarand they won't stop using it at the start
22:24.14Semlari think we actually have too much dps
22:24.29Primeryou won't have it up before the last phase if you do that
22:24.30znfStanzilla, doesn't seem to be working for solo play :(
22:24.58Stanzillaznf: didn't test it yet, could be because he's working on stuff atm
22:24.58Primersome people offer that as a strat, but you do too much at the start, and it's not back up before the last phase, in our experience
22:24.58Stanzilladunno
22:25.04Stanzillahe's on twitter, very active
22:25.39Semlarin my experience if we're actually doing well we end up being sated into the final phase and can't use it again
22:25.56Stanzillathere is only one BL/Heroism in that fight
22:25.57PrimerSemlar: is this 10 man? If so, are you 2 healing?
22:26.00Stanzillaif there is more, you are bad
22:26.27Semlaryeah we're 2 healing 10 man except it means one of the healers is dpsing and not particularly well
22:26.55Semlaralso that leaves one of the 2 healers as a fistweaver and i feel like he isn't healing as well as he could be
22:27.03nebula169i mean, do you really need lust at the start? not like being in the phase a little longer matters as long as adds aren't getting backed up
22:27.10PrimerThen one of your healers has to step up
22:27.15Stanzillayou really want to use it at the end
22:27.26Stanzillawere it really matters, it doesn't at the start
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22:27.47Semlarno we don't need the lust at the start but we have a trigger happy shaman
22:28.11znfthen use BL 1 minute afer the pull :D
22:28.29Stanzillause it before the pull
22:28.30Stanzilla:D
22:28.36Stanzillaso he can't!
22:28.39znferm, before, yes
22:28.46Semlargood idea
22:29.32Semlaralso for whatever reason we seem to get farther using the lust at the start but i think that's a complete coincidence because it should have no affect on anything
22:29.50Stanzillahttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-dj9xkud2y6c4a79s/sum/damageDone/?s=14981&e=15439
22:29.55Stanzillagerman logs T__T
22:30.03Primerja
22:30.07Semlarand the person doing the logging refuses to upload our attempts
22:30.21Semlari need to just start logging it myself
22:30.30znfI love the settings available for warcraft logs
22:30.50PrimerChaosblitz
22:30.55Primerist gut
22:30.57Semlarthey think it would be demoralizing to upload our wipes or something
22:31.13SemlarI WANT TO ANALYZE ZE DATAS
22:31.34znfStanzilla, this is funny. While I was doing a combat log, some mage came and shot a few ice bolts... the parser picked him, but not me :D
22:31.37PrimerWas ist Gedankenstachel?
22:31.45Stanzillamind spike
22:31.57Primermind you, I dont' speak Deutsch
22:32.07Stanzillathat sentence was 100% correct
22:32.08PrimerAlthough my mom does
22:32.29PrimerBut she speaks Brazilian German
22:32.54Stanzillathat sounds interesting
22:32.54Primerthe one she learned from her parents, who spoke Portuguese with a very strong German accent...both were born in Brazil, as were their parents
22:32.55Semlari like that "other" is 55% of the damage
22:33.40PrimerThey came to Brazil in the late 1800's...guessing that's when a lot of emigration happened to escape serfdom in Europe
22:34.34PrimerI feel I have to add that disclaimer, because people naturally assume my antecedents were Nazis escaping after WWII
22:35.26Semlarwe have a warrior and a dk tank, who would you have kiting
22:35.34Stanzillawarrior
22:35.35Primerwarrior?
22:36.01Semlaralso how do you deal with weapons during the final phase in terms of positioning
22:36.02Stanzillawe have the same setup in the alt raid
22:36.27znfbefore 1st weapon, ranged all go to throne
22:36.29Semlardo you spread out a certain way when the adds are coming out
22:36.41Semlarwell actually
22:36.43Stanzillayou spread during the whirl and stay spread
22:36.47Semlarif you're kiting i guess you might as well just stack up
22:37.08Stanzillabut I think we used to stack
22:37.14Stanzillato make it easier for healrs
22:37.24Stanzillabut now the last phase is like 10s or so
22:37.29winkPrimer: sounds a little like those towns in the US where people speak "some sort of" German :P
22:38.25winkI find that fascinating with people knowing their family trees
22:38.32Semlarlast time we did it we got split by a weapon, mind control went out and one of the groups didn't manage to kill their mc'd player
22:38.33winkfor me it's.. 3 generations maybe, then no clue
22:39.26Stanzillawink: my grandpa traced our roots back to 16xx something
22:39.36winknice.
22:39.40Stanzillanow he's dead and all we have is some plans
22:39.46Stanzillawith his amazing handwriting
22:39.49winkI know the village where my grandfather was a blacksmith
22:39.51winkthat's about it
22:39.58winkerr greatgrandfather, ofc
22:40.46Semlar<PROTECTED>
22:41.10Semlari think i was actually pretty out of it at this point, it's not my best work
22:41.24znfStanzilla, I'm paranoid! :( I "lost" 5 gigs in 2 days on the ssd
22:41.28Semlari'm so tired of fighting garrosh
22:43.09Stanzillayou need to stop clicking :p
22:43.14Semlaryou can't stop me
22:43.20znfstop clicking
22:43.27SemlarNEVER
22:43.57znfthen you'll never kill garrosh
22:44.21Semlari disengaged backwards when we came out of the heart because apparently it doesn't let you turn around in midair at that point
22:44.32znfalso, ew @ your UI
22:44.35znf:-&
22:44.46znfand, seriously, DBM?
22:44.56Semlarthat actually isn't dbm but it's close enough
22:45.05znfhuh?
22:45.07Stanzillawhat are those green and red arrows?
22:45.11Stanzillaznf: it's VEM
22:45.13Semlarit's VEM which is basically DBM
22:45.25znfwtf is that
22:45.33Semlardbm with voice overs
22:45.39znfok, let me rephrase
22:45.42znf*why*?
22:45.47Semlarwhy not
22:45.52Stanzillabecause it works for him :p
22:45.55StanzillaWHAT ARE THE ARROWS
22:46.00Semlarmy nameplate addon
22:46.06znfyeah, you're never going to kill it :D
22:46.12Stanzillawhat do they mean?
22:46.19Semlarthey just show who's targeting what
22:46.25znfO.O
22:46.32znflol, what addon is that?
22:46.37Semlarmy nameplate addon!
22:46.46znf..what's it called? >_<
22:46.51Semlarit hasn't got one
22:47.16znfbodypull?
22:47.18Semlarit's called SemlarPlates
22:47.22znfthat's one weird addon
22:47.37Semlaror semlar's plates or something i don't know, it's not finished
22:47.44znfthe arrows are confusing as fuck for me :D
22:47.58Parnicgood thing you don't have to use the addon, then
22:48.10znfthe big number is the health of friendlies?
22:48.16Stanzillawell were not asking to rate his UI but their gameplay
22:48.24Semlarthe number in the center of my screen is my health
22:48.34Semlarthe numbers above the nameplates are their healths
22:48.35Stanzillait looks ok until you fail at adds
22:48.52Stanzillas/asking/asked/
22:49.01Semlarwe got split by a weapon, mind control went out and then the other half of the raid didn't kill their player
22:49.40Semlarwhich is impressive because our warlock basically soloed me
22:49.43znfSemlar, those red arrows seem useful for a tank
22:49.52StanzillaI saw that, but that's not a tactic problem
22:50.59Semlarthat was our best attempt so far though
22:51.10znfWhy are you not doing the stacking tactic all the way around?
22:51.20znf(untill P3 anyway)
22:51.28Semlarwe didn't have bloodlust at the end because we were still sated there :l
22:51.58Semlarwhat do you mean about stacking
22:52.07znfwe never spread until P3
22:52.13Semlarwe start spreading out when it becomes empowered
22:52.29znfI see you have 2 normal weapons around
22:52.46znfwhat are the blue and green markers for?
22:52.58Semlarduring the first phase we alternate between them
22:53.07znfyeah, that's what I'm talking about
22:53.15znfwe just stack behind the boss full time
22:53.21Semlarafter we come out of the first heart we start leaving weapons around the room and ignore them
22:53.21znfwe don't spread for weapons
22:53.36Semlarwe aren't spreading for weapons
22:53.41znfwe put the weapons on the group, they get killed
22:53.44Semlarwe're spreading when he starts throwing out the adds
22:53.46znfie: we heal trough it
22:54.46Semlarwe just move over when he throws a weapon out but we stay in a group
22:55.01Semlarand ignore the weapon
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22:55.52Stanzillayeah we do the same
22:55.53Stanzillaon normal
22:55.59Stanzillaon heroic you don't have a choice, really
22:57.00Semlarour guild's other 10 man managed to down garrosh this week
22:57.18znfmoving didn't ever do good for us, we just heal trough the weapons. Moving as a group is so bad for us :D
22:57.18Semlarand they have less dps than we do
22:57.28Primertwitch.tv's flash video editor sucks ass
22:57.45Primerbeen trying to make a cut of our Garrosh kill and it's crashed twice already
22:58.22Semlari capture to my computer, i can't stream with my upload speed
22:58.44PrimerI have 30mb/s up
22:58.53Semlari have 1mbps up
22:59.01PrimerI've had someone follow me on twitch simply because of the video quality
22:59.12Primertold me mine's the best stream he's ever seen
22:59.25Semlaryoutube rapes my video quality with it's crappy transcoding
22:59.53PrimerI saw a lot of artifacts on yours at 720
23:00.01PrimerI don't dare go up to 1080 here at work
23:00.16Primerwhere our bandwidth is not as good
23:00.51Semlarbasically when stuff starts happening the quality goes to hell because of whatever youtube's compression method is
23:01.07Semlaryou'll notice it in any youtube video
23:01.30Semlarparticle effects will do it
23:01.41PrimerYou know what's really sad? We had a guild lock come to the raid to drop a soulwell
23:01.47Primerfor our Garrosh kill
23:02.58Semlar<PROTECTED>
23:03.51Semlari play a little better though
23:04.08znfdamn it, I did a LFR thingie
23:04.16znfand I had Combat Logging disabled...
23:04.24znfthe only reason I joined LFR was for combat logging >_<
23:04.58znfSemlar, so why are you not releasing that addon?
23:05.17Semlar>_>
23:05.46znfwat? :-(
23:05.49Semlar>>_>>
23:05.55znf<<_>><<>>?
23:06.55Semlari haven't gotten around to it
23:07.21Semlari'll try and force myself to work on it tonight
23:07.42znfI can't use it, anyway, but it looks pretty cool
23:08.51Semlarbrb
23:10.31znfStanzilla, so far the only thing that sucks in xCT is that incoming damage can't be colored by school
23:10.55Stanzillaok
23:11.11znfyou don't ok me!
23:11.18StanzillaI do
23:11.21Stanzillasuper tired here
23:11.38znf(also no icon on the incoming ability)
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23:16.20Semlar-Laptopherro
23:18.08Primerok, finally got through twitch's horrible flash and am uploading the kill to YT
23:18.26Stanzillaand I'm going to bed
23:18.36Semlar-Laptopcan i come
23:18.47Stanzillanot enough space
23:18.52Semlar-Laptopwell, think of me
23:18.55Stanzillawould have to fight that one out with my cat
23:23.51PrimerFor me it's cats
23:23.53Primerand dog
23:23.55Primerand wife
23:24.04PrimerI suppose I should have ordered that differently...
23:24.05Semlar-Laptopi do not let my cat into my bedroom
23:24.51PrimerWhy?
23:25.05PrimerI love it when I wake up and there are 4 cats on my bed
23:25.46Semlar-Laptophe has a habit of tearing a hole in the bottom of the box spring and climbing into it
23:26.30Semlar-Laptopplus i don't need cat hair in every room of the house
23:32.54znfI like this WarcraftLogs.com :D
23:33.43znfhttp://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/n9dAmhrc8FvVPzRf
23:38.30PrimerLFR? I mean, who plays unholy DK nowadays
23:39.26znfyeah, LFR
23:39.38znfI never liked Frost
23:40.06wink<3 Unholy
23:40.13winkfaster run speed > all
23:40.20PrimerI don't either, but it beats unholy DPS by a LOT
23:40.21Semlar-Laptopgotta go fast
23:40.28Primerunholy is for pvp though
23:40.41winkit's al #10 and only does LFR
23:40.44winkUnholy is fine
23:40.48winks,al,alt,
23:41.04Primerit's my alt #2, and MS is blood
23:41.17PrimerOS is frost though, but only because I hardly play him

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