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| 07:21.40 | Stanzilla | morning | 
| 07:21.44 | nevcairiel | morning | 
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| 07:27.50 | Stanzilla | oh it's december now | 
| 07:50.51 | nevcairiel | thats changes everything! | 
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| 08:06.46 | Stanzilla | yeah time for adventskalender | 
| 08:34.01 | Adirelle | "on cooldown" or "in cooldown" ? | 
| 08:34.07 | Stanzilla | on | 
| 08:35.15 | Adirelle | thx | 
| 08:42.22 | Stanzilla | hahaha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOBCUf_-sf4&proxmate=us | 
| 08:42.25 | Stanzilla | gotta level my monk now | 
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| 09:11.06 | wink | wow | 
| 09:11.20 | wink | I had to read the thread to even grasp the bsics of rhe problem | 
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| 09:26.15 | Stanzilla | wink: I should have mentioned it probably :D | 
| 09:26.36 | wink | I don't play D3 anymore :P | 
| 09:28.01 | wink | think I only played to Hell, Act 2 | 
| 09:30.40 | Stanzilla | I was a really shitty game | 
| 09:30.56 | Stanzilla | just starting to get better with the first expansion | 
| 09:31.21 | wink | dunno, it was nice untill 60 | 
| 09:31.31 | wink | but nm/hell was so repetitive | 
| 09:31.39 | wink | and at times too unfair regarding class | 
| 09:32.21 | wink | maybe worth a try again without AH | 
| 09:32.33 | wink | I didnt even level a 2nd 60 tho | 
| 09:48.07 | nevcairiel | I have high hopes for the expansion to fix the game, but we'll see how it turns out | 
| 09:52.27 | wink | we summed it up as "it's a nice game, but if 'going to bed' or 'take a break to eat' are feasible alternatives, it's just not a great game" | 
| 09:52.39 | wink | it wasn't bad - it just didn't glue you to the seat | 
| 09:54.29 | nevcairiel | it did initially, just not long-term | 
| 09:54.51 | nevcairiel | like the first two difficulties before hitting 60 | 
| 09:55.38 | nevcairiel | and before the AH was full of cheap items that made you OP and you never had to care about drops | 
| 10:06.30 | wink | maybe it's alittle unfair, but if I wait 10 years for it, it may last longer than a month | 
| 10:13.49 | Stanzilla | truth is | 
| 10:14.00 | Stanzilla | diablo is only fun if you get rewarded for the stuff you do on a regular basis | 
| 10:14.21 | Stanzilla | and the expac does that way better than vanilla | 
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| 10:32.13 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz sb http://stadt-bremerhaven.de/allcast-beta-ab-sofort-ueber-google-play-beta-programm-erhaeltlich/ Fisker get fucked or use google translate :D | 
| 10:32.48 | Fisker | ok gonna get fucked tom hanks Stanzilla | 
| 10:33.02 | Stanzilla | =) you're welcome | 
| 10:34.18 | Fisker | can't see what I would want it for | 
| 10:34.51 | znf | Stanzilla, why can't XBMC "access" my mapped drives? :-| | 
| 10:35.07 | Stanzilla | znf: why would I know that? :E | 
| 10:35.18 | znf | I'm starting to regret the update to win8 | 
| 10:35.36 | Stanzilla | you're pretty easy to defeat | 
| 10:35.51 | Fisker | probably because you suck znf | 
| 10:35.57 | Fisker | try mapping them manually | 
| 10:36.05 | znf | Fisker, they are mapped in Windows... | 
| 10:36.08 | znf | they were in 7, too | 
| 10:36.10 | znf | they worked just fine | 
| 10:36.26 | znf | now in 8 they XBMC says that path is invalid, though my drive is still mapped in windows | 
| 10:37.27 | Fisker | Works for me | 
| 10:37.31 | Fisker | But I mapped it manually as I said | 
| 10:37.38 | Fisker | if you try to browse network shares it's kinda wonky | 
| 10:37.52 | znf | I tried to uninstall a program earlier, and when I clicked uninstall, Windows said it can't find the uninstaller for that. Gave me the option to browse for the .exe; with that small browsing window the file was not there. I went manually in Program Files and used the .exe in there | 
| 10:37.58 | znf | There's something funky with file permissions >_< | 
| 10:39.18 | znf | woah, wait a second, that fast&furios guy died at 40? he was 40? damn actors! :-| | 
| 10:39.26 | Fisker | or maybe the uninstaller wasn't registered properly | 
| 10:39.51 | Fisker | I think it's a conspiracy to give jason statham the lead | 
| 10:55.50 | Elkano | Funkeh`, I did check the supported charsets in LSM before adding the fonts, that's why the table is in there... | 
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| 12:00.02 | nevcairiel | LFDs are fun. I'm the healer, a resto druid, and i have more life then the tank, and do more damage then the shadow priest <.< | 
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| 12:11.54 | Elkano | I miss the low(er)-level dungeons where the tank-pala could just heal himself... you could almost solo them... | 
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| 12:51.47 | Funkeh` | Elkano, all that table indicates is what fonts are n which clients | 
| 12:51.55 | Funkeh` | hence why I added the additinal note | 
| 12:53.08 | Funkeh` | we need to implement a new multi lungual friz or blizz needs to | 
| 12:54.37 | Stanzilla | just wip out a font editor and do some copy pasta | 
| 12:55.23 | Funkeh` | is it possible to merge the characters from both fonts? | 
| 12:55.50 | Stanzilla | yes | 
| 12:56.14 | Funkeh` | hmm ill need to look into that | 
| 12:57.26 | bluspacecow | Turkey Slap it in! | 
| 12:58.50 | Stanzilla | most of the font edition software is not free though | 
| 13:04.36 | Elkano | Funkeh`, I ment the comment table | 
| 13:04.53 | Funkeh` | what other table is there? | 
| 13:06.46 | Elkano | line 92+ | 
| 13:07.34 | Elkano | I checked the font files using langcover.pl | 
| 13:07.46 | Elkano | (perl script, not web page) | 
| 13:08.03 | Funkeh` | I'm not saying I don't believe you | 
| 13:08.17 | Elkano | was just the source for that table | 
| 13:08.45 | Funkeh` | well there was nothing explaining that, so I added the comment | 
| 13:11.14 | Elkano | btw: you should have simply reverted your change instead of comitting... you changed that table, too and forgot to change it back | 
| 13:11.45 | Funkeh` | no | 
| 13:11.59 | Funkeh` | If a change has been made to bump the minor it doesn't get reverted | 
| 13:12.07 | Funkeh` | also, <Funkeh`> Elkano, all that table indicates is what fonts are n which clients | 
| 13:12.44 | Elkano | no, the fonts are on all clients | 
| 13:13.02 | Elkano | the table just indicates which charsets are fully supported by that font | 
| 13:14.27 | Elkano | and you marked FRIZQT___CYR.TTF as supporting latin and forgot to remove that mark once you reverted your change | 
| 13:14.56 | Funkeh` | I don't know how many times I need to repeat myself | 
| 13:18.30 | Elkano | also, for font editing, try FontForge | 
| 13:19.06 | Elkano | however, I doubt you'd be allowed to merge those fonts yourself and redistribute them | 
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| 13:20.39 | Funkeh` | They are still distributed with the game technically | 
| 13:20.58 | Funkeh` | It wasa dumb ommision on Blizz's part to leave out special latin characters | 
| 13:21.11 | Funkeh` | I'm not sure they even realize | 
| 13:22.04 | Funkeh` | maybe it will be more apparent next patch when chracters start turning into cyrrilic in peoples raid warnings | 
| 13:22.46 | Stanzilla | =) ou're welcome | 
| 13:22.47 | Stanzilla | morning | 
| 13:23.04 | Stanzilla | .. | 
| 13:23.05 | Stanzilla | cat | 
| 13:23.19 | bluspacecow | dog! | 
| 13:23.21 | bluspacecow | woof! | 
| 13:23.21 | nevcairiel | yoiur cat can type full words? | 
| 13:23.30 | Stanzilla | arrow up history | 
| 13:23.34 | quiescens | o.o | 
| 13:23.48 | Funkeh` | ah damn that's moreexcusable than macros | 
| 13:23.52 | quiescens | how do we know it isn't still your cat typing? | 
| 13:24.13 | bluspacecow | its a talented cat! | 
| 13:24.14 | Elkano | btw: while you did increase the minor for your change, you should have put it to 5040101 (5.4.1 v1) ;) | 
| 13:26.47 | bluspacecow | *nows quiescens* | 
| 13:26.52 | bluspacecow | noms even | 
| 13:27.10 | quiescens | givs blu a cookie | 
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| 13:43.52 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: https://github.com/dandruff/xCT/issues/49#issuecomment-24983170 | 
| 13:45.27 | nevcairiel | doesnt sound fixed =p | 
| 14:04.12 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: it shows the values though | 
| 14:06.57 | nevcairiel | i told you before thats msbt uses the combatlog, and that thing uses blizzards sct to steal the info, which makes it non-trivial to add it. ask the author or switch addon :p | 
| 14:07.11 | Stanzilla | meeeeh | 
| 14:07.33 | znf | I was thinking of switching to xCT for performance reasons :-S | 
| 14:08.02 | nevcairiel | or just turn absorbs on in blizzards sct and use msbt for the rest :P | 
| 14:08.40 | znf | I'll give xCT a try | 
| 14:08.44 | znf | when my ban is lifted... >_< | 
| 14:08.54 | nevcairiel | so never? | 
| 14:09.03 | znf | it's a few hours left | 
| 14:09.18 | Stanzilla | xct has no animations | 
| 14:09.30 | Stanzilla | it's just up/down | 
| 14:09.42 | Stanzilla | and I heard SCT does support absorbs, too | 
| 14:09.44 | Stanzilla | but meh | 
| 14:09.44 | znf | so you say, even less strain on the CPU? :P | 
| 14:10.01 | nevcairiel | if i had cpu issues, i would just turn it off completely | 
| 14:10.23 | nevcairiel | with the spam of numbers its not like you can actually read it in the middle of a fight | 
| 14:10.56 | znf | I can't play without it. I feel like my screen is empty :P | 
| 14:11.03 | nevcairiel | then buy a cpu | 
| 14:11.09 | znf | need new platform completely | 
| 14:11.17 | znf | I'm still on 775, Q6600 :P | 
| 14:12.17 | znf | and a Core i5 + Mobo + RAM is more than what would my salary would be if I would have worked | 
| 14:13.01 | nevcairiel | still has an unused i7-2600k and a gtx 680 lying around, too lazy to ebay | 
| 14:13.39 | znf | rub it in ^^ | 
| 14:13.57 | znf | My only other choice would be go to AMD, but :-/ | 
| 14:16.07 | Ressy | Don't feel bad znf. I'm on the same CPU, only oc'd to 3.0 | 
| 14:16.24 | Stanzilla | don't give him ideas | 
| 14:16.26 | Stanzilla | he would break it | 
| 14:17.20 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: you could SLI with the spare card, or not? | 
| 14:17.30 | nevcairiel | a 780 and a 680? | 
| 14:17.40 | Stanzilla | yeah | 
| 14:17.41 | nevcairiel | cant really SLI Different models | 
| 14:17.45 | Stanzilla | you sure? | 
| 14:19.06 | znf | Ressy, I can't OC :) | 
| 14:19.09 | znf | Intel mobo | 
| 14:19.59 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: pretty sure | 
| 14:21.14 | znf | actually, I should check to see how much is an amd kit | 
| 14:22.02 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/sli-with-different-cards.158907/page-29#post-3008883 | 
| 14:22.34 | nevcairiel | SLI has enough issues as it is, I would not increase that by hacking the driver :P | 
| 14:22.42 | Stanzilla | just saying | 
| 14:22.47 | Stanzilla | you could give the card to me, too! | 
| 14:22.53 | Stanzilla | I have a 680 :D | 
| 14:23.08 | znf | from what I glanced, it needs to be the same device_id | 
| 14:23.18 | znf | pretty sure 680 / 780 have device id | 
| 14:23.33 | nevcairiel | i'll probably just use the 2600k and the card to build a test machine for the future | 
| 14:23.51 | znf | Stanzilla, that driver seems to be used for SLI with different manufacturer cards | 
| 14:24.00 | znf | ie: one Zotac and one Asus | 
| 14:24.02 | znf | but same model | 
| 14:24.16 | nevcairiel | that works with default drivers even | 
| 14:24.22 | Stanzilla | yeah | 
| 14:24.29 | Stanzilla | look at the screenshot above the post I linked | 
| 14:24.37 | nevcairiel | as long as the cards are the same chip, you can even combine one OC and one non-OC card | 
| 14:24.37 | znf | http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/sli-with-different-cards.158907/page-30#post-3012415 | 
| 14:24.39 | Stanzilla | clearly shows two different cards working in SLI | 
| 14:25.03 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel> if i had cpu issues, i would just turn it off completely | 
| 14:25.08 | Funkeh` | I'd have it off with or without | 
| 14:25.16 | Stanzilla | you can be pretty sure that with this amount of hackery it does not work for everyone out of the box :D | 
| 14:25.17 | Funkeh` | don't see any reason for it | 
| 14:25.36 | Funkeh` | reading some spam is the last thing you're thinking of when trying to kill a boss | 
| 14:25.57 | znf | Is nice to see what's hitting you in a raid. I love to see if I'm getting any heals or not. | 
| 14:26.39 | Funkeh` | why | 
| 14:26.44 | nevcairiel | i can ignore it pretty effectively, and i have my settings tuned way down to make the spam less annoying, but i still like seeing it | 
| 14:26.48 | Funkeh` | if you're not, you die,if you are, you don't | 
| 14:27.02 | Funkeh` | you also have a health bar with predictive healing | 
| 14:27.04 | znf | Funkeh`, or I could use a defensive cooldown | 
| 14:27.48 | znf | holy f* at the TDP of AMD's A10 | 
| 14:28.52 | znf | I thought that being poorly performing compared to Intel it would have a lower TDP O.O | 
| 14:29.14 | nevcairiel | as a healer it gives me a bit of an indication if my heals actually hit or all is overhealing and i might be able to re-focus some efforts, but its only marginal and not the main decision driver, so meh | 
| 14:29.39 | Funkeh` | sorry, I didn't mean numbers over an npc or friendly I have those on | 
| 14:29.41 | znf | it's still an extra visual cue which is nice | 
| 14:31.07 | nevcairiel | i really only look at the outgoing stuff, if at all, the incoming is still visible, but has a lot of spam control to summarize events and stuff | 
| 14:31.29 | nevcairiel | could probably turn it off and wouldnt miss it | 
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| 14:31.59 | znf | I use it to figure out what better times to use certain stuff, for example Vampiric Embrace, while learning a fight | 
| 14:32.28 | znf | as I won't be looking trough combat logs later to see how much it healed, I'm gonna see it in the scrolling text | 
| 14:33.29 | znf | meh, seems there's no point in going for an AMD platform: http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core2-Quad-Q6600-vs-AMD-A8-6600K | 
| 14:33.47 | nevcairiel | their cpus arent that great anymore | 
| 14:34.07 | Funkeh` | there hasn't been since the phenom days which os probably what is making you think of TDP | 
| 14:34.07 | znf | I know :( | 
| 14:34.33 | znf | really a shame, tbh | 
| 14:34.35 | Funkeh` | price and lower TDP was a reall boon | 
| 14:34.45 | nevcairiel | the latest cpus have outrageuos TDP for the performance they deliver | 
| 14:35.03 | Funkeh` | yeah no clue what they are doing | 
| 14:35.04 | nevcairiel | while intel keeps lowering it | 
| 14:35.10 | nevcairiel | (the tdp) | 
| 14:35.13 | znf | Intel has no reason to lower down their prices, with pretty much no competition | 
| 14:35.39 | znf | The only case I would see to buy an AMD CPU is maybe for a HTPC, but even there there's those embedded INtel thingies that rock | 
| 14:36.01 | znf | those "NUC" thingies | 
| 14:36.29 | nevcairiel | thats just a ULV intel cpu, but yeah | 
| 14:36.33 | znf | (and while googling I saw someone listing "no thunderbolt" as a CON) | 
| 14:36.49 | nevcairiel | i thought they even had models with thunderbolt now | 
| 14:37.13 | znf | They do? I was looking at the 4th gen 2013 which apparently doesn't | 
| 14:37.21 | nevcairiel | there is different models | 
| 14:37.28 | nevcairiel | some have ethernet, some have thunderbolt | 
| 14:37.29 | nevcairiel | or something | 
| 14:38.09 | znf | I'm still failing to see the appeal of thunderbolt at the moment | 
| 14:38.19 | znf | Anyone happens to have a thunderbolt device around? | 
| 14:38.43 | Funkeh` | thunderbolt is just the shadow of the product it was meant to be | 
| 14:38.53 | znf | that optical thing, you mean? | 
| 14:39.00 | Funkeh` | yes | 
| 14:39.00 | znf | what was it called? Lightpeak? | 
| 14:39.13 | Funkeh` | I think so | 
| 14:39.27 | nevcairiel | maybe it'll get bigger in the next generation, now that generic PCs slowly start to adopt it | 
| 14:39.32 | nevcairiel | and not only macs | 
| 14:40.04 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz | 
| 14:40.20 | znf | nevcairiel, though, you have to think about it - what good did it do to Firewire? Weren't they initially only on macs then they started appearing on PCs? | 
| 14:40.21 | Stanzilla | I can only flex till 19:00 today | 
| 14:40.30 | znf | My mobo has a Firewire port. Don't even know how to use it :P | 
| 14:40.55 | znf | brb | 
| 14:40.58 | Stanzilla | I had a firewire soundcard | 
| 14:40.59 | nevcairiel | firewire always was kind of a niche, it didnt even offer big advantages over usb | 
| 14:41.00 | Stanzilla | it never worked | 
| 14:41.07 | nevcairiel | but thunderbolt at least has the superior tech | 
| 14:41.36 | znf | well, Firewire was faster than USB when they released it, if I remember corectly. Speed was their advantage at the time | 
| 14:41.50 | znf | Though they released USB2 soon enough, if memory serves me right | 
| 14:48.31 | Gnarfoz | that, and firewire did daisy chaining | 
| 14:49.03 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: I posted that into guild chat, I won't be there on time myself (or not at all, maybe) | 
| 14:49.23 | Stanzilla | ok | 
| 14:49.41 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: what do you do on a sunday? | 
| 14:51.01 | znf | seriously, Blizzard, it's been 72 hours... >_< | 
| 14:51.34 | nevcairiel | i told you znf, never | 
| 14:51.44 | znf | :-( | 
| 14:52.59 | znf | btw, is it worth having a K CPU? | 
| 14:53.01 | znf | from Intel? | 
| 14:53.11 | nevcairiel | only if you plan to overclock | 
| 14:53.12 | znf | compared to the locked version? | 
| 14:53.28 | znf | the difference is 50€ O.O | 
| 14:53.54 | Stanzilla | ironicly the K is missing stuff the other one has | 
| 14:54.01 | nevcairiel | the K also sometimes are slightly faster in stock speed, depending on what you compare to | 
| 14:54.39 | znf | online stores that don't have extensive filters are annoying me :( | 
| 14:54.45 | znf | so hard to add the count of memory slots? :( | 
| 14:54.57 | znf | and chipset! | 
| 14:55.05 | nevcairiel | i dont think i have seen a board with other then 4 slots | 
| 14:55.32 | znf | 2 slots for mATX? | 
| 14:55.46 | nevcairiel | well i guess the really tiny boards could go lower | 
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| 14:55.55 | nevcairiel | but even typical mATX just cuts off PCIe slots | 
| 14:56.39 | znf | most asus/asrock matx boards have 2 dimm slots | 
| 14:56.54 | znf | the Haswell chipsets are really confusing me :-/ | 
| 14:57.15 | znf | Even with the table of differences on screen, I don't see why there's so many | 
| 14:57.53 | nevcairiel | you can basically ignore Q, thats for business/workstation, and B is absolut low-cost/low-feature, so in the end it comes to Z or H | 
| 14:58.25 | nevcairiel | Z has slightly more features and allows CPU OC | 
| 14:58.27 | nevcairiel | H doesn't | 
| 14:59.04 | znf | differnce between Q and H87 only seems to be those management features, right? | 
| 14:59.40 | nevcairiel | pretty much | 
| 14:59.46 | nevcairiel | but many of those only work on non-K CPUs | 
| 15:00.00 | znf | btw, anyone ever used that smart response technology? | 
| 15:00.43 | znf | How does it work if you already have a SSD for your OS? Will it just cache stuff from my "classic" hdd? | 
| 15:02.09 | znf | Also, what happened to those hdd's with ram combo? | 
| 15:02.48 | nevcairiel | you have to tell it which disc to cache | 
| 15:03.30 | znf | Oh, I see. Can it work with raid arrays? ie: cache this raid5 | 
| 15:03.36 | nevcairiel | no | 
| 15:03.49 | znf | boo | 
| 15:04.25 | znf | I seem to have 3x1TB drives around, was considering a RAID5 for them | 
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| 15:12.42 | znf | "ASRock Dehumidifier Function" wat? | 
| 15:13.02 | Megalon | it dehumidifies, znf | 
| 15:13.12 | Megalon | to counteract swampass | 
| 15:13.20 | znf | no shit? how does a mobo dehumidifies? >_< | 
| 15:13.46 | Megalon | it has a small package of rice in it | 
| 15:13.56 | Megalon | if it runs hot enough the rice gets even cooked | 
| 15:14.00 | Megalon | free meal | 
| 15:14.47 | nevcairiel | znf: it makes the mobo heat up slightly so that the hot air can carry more water and then runs the fans to blow out the warmed air, its quite ridiculous | 
| 15:15.30 | Megalon | so if you live in the monsoon region? | 
| 15:15.38 | Megalon | or there is a local flood | 
| 15:16.24 | znf | 365€ for a Kit I would like :-/ | 
| 15:16.45 | Megalon | I'd buy a KITT for 365 | 
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| 15:19.00 | znf | the memory price increase is ridiculous | 
| 15:24.13 | znf | yay, no more ban | 
| 15:24.14 | Megalon | glad i bought my 16gb kit for 75€ last year :x | 
| 15:24.26 | znf | 8gb kit is 80€ now >_< | 
| 15:24.28 | Gnarfoz | http://geizhals.de/?phist=837886&age=9999 oO | 
| 15:24.37 | wink | nevcairiel: seriously? | 
| 15:24.43 | Gnarfoz | I hadn't really paid attention, that's more than double the price it was before | 
| 15:24.59 | nevcairiel | i'm always serious | 
| 15:25.02 | nevcairiel | unless i'm not | 
| 15:26.51 | Megalon | Gnarfoz, it's like bitcoins ;< | 
| 15:26.56 | Gnarfoz | heh | 
| 15:26.59 | Gnarfoz | wonder what happened | 
| 15:27.03 | Megalon | bought my kit october 2012 :o | 
| 15:27.22 | znf | Gnarfoz, they're probably buying their primary mats with bitcoins! :D | 
| 15:27.32 | Gnarfoz | unless it's the usual "whoops we have way too much production capacity, prices are bottoming out, let's reduce" -> "whoops, nobody is buying our shit since it's too expensive" back and forth | 
| 15:27.33 | bluspacecow | @Megalon I cans eats it ? | 
| 15:28.47 | Megalon | i can cans you bluspacecow | 
| 15:28.54 | bluspacecow | oks | 
| 15:29.03 | bluspacecow | *transforms into can* | 
| 15:31.15 | Gnarfoz | what's the deal with cpu-integrated memory controllers anyway right now? my sandy bridge cpu officially supports 1066 and 1333 MHz DIMMs, but I'm running 1600 MHz ones - am I running it out of spec or is something else going on | 
| 15:31.27 | Gnarfoz | I'm pretty sure I knew this when I bought it, but apparently, I forgot :D | 
| 15:31.37 | znf | someone should figure out a way to embed GPS into USB Flash Drives | 
| 15:31.47 | znf | Can't wait for tomorow to have the ones I ordered :-/ | 
| 15:31.51 | znf | I seem to be losing them like crazy :( | 
| 15:32.19 | Gnarfoz | you don't need just GPS, you'd also need some method of communication | 
| 15:32.23 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: technically its out of spec, but the controllers can usually go higher then what they are build for, same deal as before they were on the cpu | 
| 15:32.52 | znf | Gnarfoz, obviously | 
| 15:33.06 | Megalon | talkback usb flash drives | 
| 15:33.27 | znf | we need usb drives with a "recall" function | 
| 15:33.37 | znf | so they appear in your hands again | 
| 15:33.54 | znf | Out of all the flash drives I ever had, I remember breaking just 2 | 
| 15:34.02 | znf | The rest? I have no idea where they disappeared | 
| 15:34.06 | Megalon | yea znf, and just call them mjöllnir | 
| 15:34.53 | znf | I remember breaking one when I was demonstrating to a friend how flexible it is: "See? It bends SO MUCH!!! *snap* oh fuck" | 
| 15:36.32 | quiescens | o.o | 
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| 15:41.41 | znf | hmmm, having a SSD really speeds up the Curse Client | 
| 15:41.57 | znf | using it on a HDD is painfully slow to the point I'm tempted to manually update addons | 
| 15:42.54 | quiescens | ssd tends to be particularly helpful for anything that works with lots of small files instead of a few big files | 
| 15:43.54 | sb | using ANYTHONG on hdd is painful | 
| 15:44.00 | sb | THING | 
| 15:44.36 | nevcairiel | reading big sequential files isnt that bad, random access is where it really hurts | 
| 15:45.07 | znf | having to move the magnetic heads all over the place to read a file is the bad part ^^ | 
| 15:46.15 | Stanzilla | oh dear internet http://i.4cdn.org/b/src/1385909885168.jpg | 
| 15:46.35 | Stanzilla | also Gnarfoz do tell now | 
| 15:48.17 | quiescens | go to sleep~ | 
| 15:48.28 | blucannedcow | kk | 
| 15:48.39 | blucannedcow | *sleeps on top of quiescens* | 
| 15:51.26 | Stanzilla | I was just called gay for reading 50 shades of grey :( | 
| 15:51.37 | nevcairiel | i support that sentiment | 
| 15:51.42 | quiescens | feeds blu a cookie | 
| 15:52.01 | quiescens | who reads books these days anyway? | 
| 15:52.30 | Stanzilla | it's a PDF! | 
| 15:52.52 | znf | Why are you reading that? :-| | 
| 15:53.26 | Stanzilla | someone told me it | 
| 15:53.50 | znf | How old is she and what's her boob size? | 
| 15:54.10 | Stanzilla | idk and idk :D | 
| 15:54.22 | znf | *blink* | 
| 15:54.35 | blucannedcow | <PROTECTED> | 
| 15:54.38 | blucannedcow | Don't look | 
| 15:54.47 | blucannedcow | *disappears in cloud of smoke* | 
| 15:54.52 | sb | huh? | 
| 16:10.16 | silentium | was it the blue space cow who told you to read it, Stanzilla? | 
| 16:10.24 | Stanzilla | no | 
| 16:10.35 | Stanzilla | he's like beyond gay | 
| 16:15.32 | znf | Stanzilla, why are people going to huge efforts to install RoS? | 
| 16:16.57 | Stanzilla | datamining? | 
| 16:16.58 | Stanzilla | dunno | 
| 16:17.45 | nevcairiel | people are weird like that | 
| 16:18.02 | znf | huge thread on OC about how to get it working | 
| 16:18.11 | znf | and they're, like "game is working, stuck at the login screen" | 
| 16:18.14 | znf | no shit? | 
| 16:27.41 | znf | So, I'm quite "impressed" that after all these years, nobody made a system-wide equlizer for Windows :-/ | 
| 16:28.32 | nevcairiel | its pretty hard, you cant just plug one in there | 
| 16:28.35 | nevcairiel | many soundcards have one | 
| 16:28.46 | znf | mine had one, too, but it doesn't work in Win8 | 
| 16:28.48 | nevcairiel | if you want one independent of that, it would need to mimic a sound driver | 
| 16:28.55 | znf | I found an APO | 
| 16:29.00 | znf | But it doesn't seem to work in Win8 :( | 
| 16:29.03 | nevcairiel | and then after processing send it to the real sound card | 
| 16:29.14 | znf | http://sourceforge.net/projects/equalizerapo/ | 
| 16:29.15 | nevcairiel | ..which adds latency, which can be bad for gaming | 
| 16:29.41 | znf | I'm wondering *why* it doesn't work under Win8 :-/ | 
| 16:29.46 | znf | Worked fine under 7 | 
| 16:29.58 | znf | Guess my mobo is becoming way too old | 
| 16:30.20 | blucannedcow | will it help if I ate it znf ? | 
| 16:30.27 | znf | no :( | 
| 16:30.31 | nevcairiel | isnt that just an ordinary realteak onboard chip? | 
| 16:30.35 | nevcairiel | realtek* | 
| 16:31.23 | znf | no, it's some retarded IDT chip | 
| 16:31.47 | Stanzilla | that works with realtek drivers too | 
| 16:32.00 | znf | Uhm, how do you know that? | 
| 16:32.10 | Stanzilla | had similiar ones | 
| 16:32.25 | znf | Any ideas if the EQ works? | 
| 16:32.30 | Stanzilla | did for me | 
| 16:32.43 | znf | So which one should I try? | 
| 16:32.53 | znf | just the generic High Def Audio Codec? | 
| 16:33.00 | Stanzilla | yes | 
| 16:33.18 | znf | cool, let's see | 
| 16:39.53 | blucannedcow | (!) | 
| 16:39.56 | blucannedcow | I finds a dime! | 
| 16:41.10 | znf | Does realtek have 1Mbit CDNs? >_< | 
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| 16:43.12 | znf | ah, cool, it's available on filehippo, too | 
| 16:49.37 | znf | Stanzilla, well, I installed the realtek driver, rebooted, nothing happened :-/ | 
| 16:50.35 | Stanzilla | ok | 
| 16:51.08 | znf | Should I do anything "special"? Force the driver to install or did it just work for you? | 
| 16:51.14 | Stanzilla | it just worked | 
| 16:51.28 | Stanzilla | try the device manager method | 
| 16:51.31 | Stanzilla | point it to the inf | 
| 16:53.08 | znf | well, crap: http://i.imgur.com/5hmyzJi.png | 
| 16:53.29 | sb | have disk | 
| 16:54.53 | znf | sb, that's what I did and i got this huge list :-/ | 
| 16:55.07 | znf | guess I'll try them all | 
| 16:58.31 | blucannedcow | the pink one | 
| 16:58.36 | blucannedcow | choose the pine one | 
| 17:14.28 | znf | oh, there's no more WinSAT in 8.1 O.O | 
| 17:18.41 | znf | OH! I got Equalizer APO to work! | 
| 17:18.48 | znf | With the default windows driver | 
| 17:19.29 | Stanzilla | winsat is still there, just no gui | 
| 17:20.36 | znf | Stanzilla, so how do I get my scores? | 
| 17:20.45 | Stanzilla | cmd something | 
| 17:24.25 | znf | the CLI output is not useful :D | 
| 18:07.46 | Repo | prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r918 modules/Editbox.lua: Handle empty cmdhistory in already pushed code | 
| 18:08.22 | Stanzilla | I heard sylvanaar wants to update chatter, too | 
| 18:08.25 | Stanzilla | thx bro | 
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| 18:10.21 | sylvanaar | Stanzilla: chatter might want to make a new module for this - you have to do really stupid stuff to make the arrows work like they used to | 
| 18:10.57 | Stanzilla | well you used the chat history stuff in prat, right? | 
| 18:11.02 | Stanzilla | because chatter has that, too | 
| 18:12.06 | sylvanaar | hmm, ok. this is the command history. for the edit boxes. does it have saved command history also? | 
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| 18:12.22 | Stanzilla | not sure | 
| 18:12.28 | Stanzilla | I never used the chat history stuff | 
| 18:13.53 | sylvanaar | yeah, well. for the arrows to work, you have to keep a duplicate history for the editboxes it seems, so all I added was ability for it to persist across logins. | 
| 18:14.49 | sylvanaar | per-editbox history specifically | 
| 18:14.52 | Stanzilla | meh | 
| 18:15.26 | sylvanaar | I like it because I don't have to retype /print commands between logins lol | 
| 18:18.45 | Stanzilla | meh was more to changing chatter in my head | 
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| 18:51.31 | nevcairiel | dont you hate quests where you have to half-kill a mob and then use some item | 
| 18:51.39 | nevcairiel | i'm always half in trance and just kill them <.< | 
| 18:52.02 | Stanzilla | yeah | 
| 18:54.25 | nevcairiel | also, i love how commander schnottz even has a german accent :p | 
| 18:59.26 | Repo | adibuttonauras: 03Adirelle 07develop * 1.0-beta-15-11-gb6542e3  (10 files in 2 directories): [+11 commits] (7 truncated) | 
| 18:59.26 | Repo | b6542e3: Priest: restored the rules that got lost during the shattering. | 
| 18:59.26 | Repo | a1174a4: Added the rule stubs for priests and death knights. | 
| 18:59.26 | Repo | 114f501: Added an option to disable flash out of combat. | 
| 18:59.26 | Repo | e8b0151: README update. | 
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| 19:20.15 | znf | Stanzilla, why are there 2 xCTs? :D | 
| 19:21.13 | Stanzilla | znf: there are not | 
| 19:21.18 | Stanzilla | there is xCT and xCT+ | 
| 19:21.20 | znf | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/xct-plus | 
| 19:21.20 | Stanzilla | + has ingame config | 
| 19:21.25 | znf | oh, cool | 
| 19:21.28 | znf | also xCT+ seems updated | 
| 19:21.54 | znf | also, link to that mouse issue in windows 8 | 
| 19:22.29 | Stanzilla | my g+ | 
| 19:24.55 | znf | I don't know your G+ :( | 
| 19:25.55 | Stanzilla | that is a) sad b) not my fault c) google | 
| 19:25.56 | Stanzilla | :D | 
| 19:26.14 | znf | sadly, your g+ doesn't show up with "stanzilla g+" | 
| 19:27.32 | Stanzilla | right, i turned search indexing off :D | 
| 19:27.46 | Stanzilla | https://plus.google.com/+BenjaminStaneck/posts/5qCy5ZF7BVj | 
| 19:27.59 | nevcairiel | using your full name still shows up in google | 
| 19:28.17 | Stanzilla | indeed | 
| 19:28.41 | nevcairiel | also fuck this, flying around skilling mining, and i find sever rare pyrite deposits that i cant mine yet, i bet its like 6 now | 
| 19:44.32 | Repo | ouro-guild-alts: 03Farmbuyer * r27  (3 files in 1 directory): Added tag 5.4 for changeset df2360b47496 | 
| 19:44.33 | Repo | Handle chat filters with nil frames (in conjunction with oRA3).  Bump TOC to 5.4. | 
| 20:02.21 | Repo | adibuttonauras: 03Adirelle 041.0-beta-16 * 1ce86cd /: [new tag] Tagging as 1.0-beta-16. | 
| 20:02.21 | Repo | adibuttonauras: 03Adirelle 07master * 1.0-beta-16  (10 files in 2 directories): [+11 commits] (7 truncated) | 
| 20:02.21 | Repo | b6542e3: Priest: restored the rules that got lost during the shattering. | 
| 20:02.22 | Repo | a1174a4: Added the rule stubs for priests and death knights. | 
| 20:02.24 | Repo | 114f501: Added an option to disable flash out of combat. | 
| 20:02.26 | Repo | e8b0151: README update. | 
| 20:05.06 | znf | it seems that I get less FPS under Win8 :( | 
| 20:09.22 | Funkeh` | you need to reinstall your driver if you did it before the 8.1 upgrade | 
| 20:12.07 | znf | I did | 
| 20:12.14 | znf | still CPU related | 
| 20:12.16 | znf | :-/ | 
| 20:12.29 | znf | I even disabled MSBT and my damage meter :( | 
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| 21:06.29 | Adirelle | feels like playing Minecraft again these days. | 
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| 21:50.20 | znf | uhm, wtf | 
| 21:50.24 | znf | I did /suf and my game froze | 
| 21:50.46 | znf | oh, unfroze after 30s | 
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| 22:14.10 | Gnarfoz | your computer is really shit and you should ditch all addons if you want to keep playing ;p | 
| 22:14.51 | Gnarfoz | suf config takes a while to load, I asked Shadowed (dick) about it a while back and he said there's not much he can do to improve it (and he doesn't care) | 
| 22:16.28 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r11676 SiegeOfOrgrimmar/TheFallenProtectors.lua: | 
| 22:16.28 | Repo | TheFallenProtectors: Add damage percentage to heroic calamity message. | 
| 22:22.56 | znf | Gnarfoz, can't play with the default UI, it's horrible | 
| 22:23.16 | znf | so, question about wow and multi-threading | 
| 22:23.27 | znf | I see WoW using 34 threads right now, why aren't those spread over more cores? | 
| 22:23.45 | Gnarfoz | doesn't matter, the important parts are basically single-threaded | 
| 22:24.08 | Gnarfoz | it's probably all their in-game browser shit and whatnot that's newer | 
| 22:24.12 | znf | I see | 
| 22:24.21 | Ressy | sound | 
| 22:24.27 | znf | is sound 34 threads? :P | 
| 22:24.38 | Gnarfoz | they improved their multi-threading a bit with 2.0 but that was about it, I think | 
| 22:24.49 | nevcairiel | 34 threads is nothing in an application this size | 
| 22:25.01 | nevcairiel | however, most of those are most likely not doing much work | 
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| 22:25.06 | Gnarfoz | it would be nothing, if it was a modern application - which it isn't :D | 
| 22:25.31 | Gnarfoz | anyway, are you at all surprised that you get less fps on an OS that does even more shit in the background, znf | 
| 22:25.33 | nevcairiel | just saying that the number of threads doesnt tell you at all how well threaded the app is | 
| 22:25.44 | znf | Gnarfoz, well, the OS is snappier... | 
| 22:25.52 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that's what I was trying to point out anyway | 
| 22:26.01 | Gnarfoz | znf: probably because of no Aero? :p | 
| 22:26.03 | znf | interesting is that I OC-ed the CPU, and I get a bit more FPS :-( | 
| 22:26.09 | znf | dunno, wasn't aero mostly GPU? | 
| 22:26.16 | Gnarfoz | how's that at all surprising? lol | 
| 22:26.25 | Gnarfoz | OC CPU, get more FPS! simple enough | 
| 22:26.38 | nevcairiel | "no Aero" is a wrong statement, they removed glass, but the windows display compositor is now always on and you cant turn it off anymore | 
| 22:27.04 | Gnarfoz | well, then it might be something else | 
| 22:27.16 | Gnarfoz | my statement stands: not surprising to get lower performance on a newer OS | 
| 22:27.17 | Gnarfoz | :D | 
| 22:27.37 | Gnarfoz | also not surprising to get more FPS when OCing your CPU on a game with a heavily CPU bound engine | 
| 22:27.59 | nevcairiel | the core performance didnt really go down though, a lot of optimizations under the hood, but who knows what znf did | 
| 22:28.01 | Gnarfoz | especially considering that you refuse to get rid of also 100% CPU dependent addons | 
| 22:28.33 | nevcairiel | there is so many factors in play that its impossible to guess :p | 
| 22:28.42 | Gnarfoz | there really isn't | 
| 22:28.48 | Gnarfoz | he should get rid of his addons | 
| 22:28.54 | nebula169 | turning off aero wasn't pretty silly in the first place, it took the rendering from the gpu to the cpu, so i'm not sure why people always thought it was a huge performance boost | 
| 22:29.02 | Gnarfoz | or buy a new computer | 
| 22:29.03 | nebula169 | s/wasn't/was/ | 
| 22:30.02 | nevcairiel | nebula169: well it also turned off a lot of the effects in the same step, but yeah it probably didnt help | 
| 22:30.30 | znf | Gnarfoz, I mean that I only OC'd by 300Mhz, and there's a significat FPS increase | 
| 22:30.30 | Gnarfoz | not much "rendering" left to do after turning off aero+all the effects, though, right? | 
| 22:30.37 | nebula169 | you can turn off all the animation and effects without disabling aero, though | 
| 22:30.42 | Gnarfoz | what's your regular frequency, znf | 
| 22:30.45 | znf | 2.4 | 
| 22:30.52 | znf | and I'm at 2.7 now | 
| 22:31.15 | Gnarfoz | and how much FPS did you gain | 
| 22:31.25 | znf | 3! | 
| 22:31.26 | Gnarfoz | more, or less than 12.5%? :p | 
| 22:31.27 | znf | :> | 
| 22:31.33 | znf | 3 more fps! | 
| 22:31.37 | Gnarfoz | you suck at this | 
| 22:31.39 | znf | uh, well, it's from 9 to 13! | 
| 22:31.45 | znf | so 33% | 
| 22:31.46 | Gnarfoz | the answer remains | 
| 22:32.06 | Gnarfoz | addons run in the main thread, per frame, so addons make each frame take longer, lowering your FPS - unless that changes (which I doubt it ever will), making sure you spend as little resources on addons as you can will get you the best FPS | 
| 22:32.21 | znf | yeah, but I can't remove anything else | 
| 22:32.47 | znf | the default user frames suck | 
| 22:32.49 | znf | the default action bars suck | 
| 22:33.08 | Gnarfoz | sure you can; just like Nihilum used to get world first boss kills without using voice communications, there's certainly enough top players who don't use addons | 
| 22:33.17 | Gnarfoz | (not implying you're a top player) | 
| 22:33.26 | Gnarfoz | you just don't want to | 
| 22:33.28 | Funkeh` | that's not entirely true if you're replacing blizz addons with custom addons | 
| 22:33.30 | Gnarfoz | so, live in misery ;p | 
| 22:33.44 | Funkeh` | it is if you're just stacking additional addons | 
| 22:34.27 | nevcairiel | that implies that a replacement can actually properly turn off the blizz stuff and not increase load | 
| 22:34.30 | Gnarfoz | so, hope your addons' authors are being very thorough with those "replacements", then | 
| 22:34.42 | Gnarfoz | ^ | 
| 22:34.48 | Funkeh` | UnregisterAllEvents and Hide :) | 
| 22:35.09 | Funkeh` | Well I'm not talking about shit addons | 
| 22:35.23 | Gnarfoz | well, we're talking about znf, what do you think he's using? :D | 
| 22:35.27 | nevcairiel | heh | 
| 22:36.09 | nevcairiel | there also are some lightweight addons that just slightly enhance the blizzard stuff without significant load increases | 
| 22:36.16 | Funkeh` | znf, u no xperl and titan panel? | 
| 22:36.22 | nevcairiel | but i can certainly see my performance change when i turn off my addons | 
| 22:36.30 | Gnarfoz | I'm amazed, Jimmy Carr got out 2 baskets of kittens in this "8 out of 10 cats does Countdown" episode and none of the panelists made a joke about the show name! :< | 
| 22:36.31 | nevcairiel | but that a difference from 1xx to 1yy matters to me | 
| 22:36.40 | nevcairiel | s/but/not/ | 
| 22:38.07 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: yeah, that kind of addon would probably be better for him; rActionbarstyler, xCT and stuff like that... avoiding anything that processes the spammy events | 
| 22:40.14 | nevcairiel | not sure how good the raid frame re-stylers are there days | 
| 22:40.30 | nevcairiel | but a simple UF without some of the spammy features shouldnt be that terrible on load | 
| 22:41.46 | nevcairiel | anyway, sleepy times | 
| 22:42.41 | znf | yes, there is a good performance increase when I disable my addons | 
| 22:43.15 | znf | and no, I don't use xperl and titan panel | 
| 22:43.35 | znf | the biggest cpu hogs right now are SuF and Grid2 | 
| 22:44.04 | znf | and LibActionButton comes 3rd | 
| 22:44.07 | nevcairiel | full blown unit frames use a lot of performance for stuff like predicted heals and whatnot | 
| 22:44.29 | nevcairiel | action buttons also get a lot of spammy events, yes | 
| 22:45.08 | znf | I actually disabled all my predicted things in SuF, not sure if that has any effect | 
| 22:45.32 | Gnarfoz | you're running two unitframe addons, for starters | 
| 22:45.39 | Gnarfoz | but we've been over this ;p | 
| 22:45.51 | znf | well, SuF's raid frames suck | 
| 22:46.04 | Gnarfoz | they're not Grid, is all | 
| 22:46.09 | Gnarfoz | they're fine otherwise | 
| 22:46.10 | nevcairiel | i raid just fine with sufs raid frames | 
| 22:46.10 | znf | Grid2 > Grid | 
| 22:46.20 | Gnarfoz | yeah yeah, certainly | 
| 22:46.24 | nevcairiel | heck you can even make em look like grid | 
| 22:46.36 | nevcairiel | and give em small indicator things in the corners like grid :p | 
| 22:46.36 | znf | tried and failed :P | 
| 22:46.45 | Gnarfoz | Grid2 is just Grid with tons of plugins included, and written by some crazy spanish guy | 
| 22:46.58 | Gnarfoz | (basically) | 
| 22:47.32 | Gnarfoz | anyway, you don't even play a healer, and you don't raid lead as far as I understand it, what do you need super crazy raid frames for | 
| 22:50.08 | znf | I don't, indeed, I don't even show debuffs on my raid frames | 
| 22:50.19 | znf | last time I tried to make SuF look like Grid I failed badly | 
| 22:50.32 | znf | will try it again | 
| 22:51.05 | znf | hmm, let's try disabling Grid2 in raid | 
| 22:51.46 | Gnarfoz | throws his hands in the air | 
| 22:52.08 | znf | doubt it will make a big difference :D | 
| 22:52.16 | znf | also, the biggest culprit I think are the nameplates | 
| 22:53.37 | nevcairiel | nameplate addons usually are pretty expensive, yes | 
| 22:53.48 | Stanzilla | I think the biggest culprit is your pc | 
| 22:53.52 | SunTsu | remembers maintanking tempest keep with 3 fps, less with those groups on the way to Al'ar | 
| 22:54.44 | Gnarfoz | I think the biggest culprit is his stubbornness | 
| 22:55.31 | znf | Stanzilla, doh | 
| 22:55.41 | znf | Gnarfoz, it's not stubborness, I can't play without those shits | 
| 22:55.44 | znf | I'm just too used to them | 
| 22:56.18 | znf | removing Grid2 didn't really do much, maybe 1-2 more fps | 
| 22:56.27 | SunTsu | znf: sounds like a new challenge to master | 
| 22:56.51 | znf | I've been "mastering" it for years now... | 
| 22:57.09 | znf | the game requires more and more resources and my frames drop patch after patch :P | 
| 22:58.33 | Gnarfoz | suddenly you're calling 2 fps "not much", when you just said that your OC gave you a "significant" increase (3 fps) | 
| 22:59.13 | Gnarfoz | and yes, it could be the definition of stubbornness in the dictionary. you're refusing to get rid of your addons so you can have acceptable FPS. | 
| 22:59.33 | znf | it's not black & white as you see it | 
| 23:00.44 | znf | you see it as "remove addons, get more fps" | 
| 23:00.52 | znf | I see it as "remove addons, stop playing with a shitty UI" | 
| 23:01.33 | Gnarfoz | see? two crows with one stone, you get rid of your shitty UI and gain FPS! :D | 
| 23:01.35 | znf | turning off NamePlates (by pressing V) results in a bigger FPS gain than disabling Grid2 | 
| 23:01.41 | znf | no, blizzard's UI is shit | 
| 23:04.09 | znf | it took them, what? 8 years to make their own nameplates have a casting bar? | 
| 23:08.35 | Gnarfoz | no, they just recently made casting bars show for all units, not just your target. nameplate casting bars are several years old. | 
| 23:09.18 | Gnarfoz | also, I like how your example for how it's not black and white is an extreme black and white example :D ("blizz ui is shit, I'll stop playing") | 
| 23:09.57 | Gnarfoz | playing with 1 digit FPS can't be that bad, if you're not miserable enough to adapt ;p | 
| 23:10.11 | *** join/#wowace Droolio (~drool@host86-164-54-199.range86-164.btcentralplus.com) | 
| 23:10.31 | Gnarfoz | someone make bitcoins go up again | 
| 23:17.53 | MysticalOS | nameplate addons aren't that bad as long as they do not anchor to blizzards name plates. it causes a HUGE fps hit. the latest tidyplates or kui nameplates anchor to uiparent instead then reposition to blizz nameplate for a huge performance gain. in fact, i'd swear performance is better than blizzards own nameplates. More people without nameplate mods complain about fps on nazgrim pull than those running those 2 mods. :) | 
| 23:18.31 | Gnarfoz | I thought tidyplates author reverted that because it interfered with healers have to die | 
| 23:18.56 | Gnarfoz | then went back to some half-as-good halfway implementation | 
| 23:20.43 | MysticalOS | he temp reverted cause he didn't have time to do it right and his halfassing wasn't working, it's pretty good now that he's gone back and done it right | 
| 23:21.14 | MysticalOS | and threat plates has had major performance rewriting too. such as not registering CLEU if you aren't actually using debuff widget. | 
| 23:21.32 | MysticalOS | before, it spent most of it's cpu on a widget that wasn't even enabled. | 
| 23:21.40 | MysticalOS | although if you enable it, it still does :) | 
| 23:21.46 | Gnarfoz | I haven't used TPTP in years, mostly because for a long while it wasn't updated to keep up with TP | 
| 23:23.23 | Gnarfoz | (and I can't remember what I used it for, I do just fine with only TP) | 
| 23:30.07 | znf | what's maxAnimThreads ?! | 
| 23:30.29 | znf | seems it's a new cvar | 
| 23:32.48 | Gnarfoz | probably something for the animation system, so don't get your hopes up | 
| 23:34.09 | znf | I'm not, was just changing my affinity and I noticed that to be new | 
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