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09:57.42znfSo, correct me if I'm wrong, but tertiary stats will be a random bonus, like Diablo3's loot system, and not fixed items like we have now in WoW, right?
09:57.55Fiskeryes
09:58.34znfbut the rest of our items are fixed, right?
09:59.16Fiskeryes
10:00.51znfI wonder if we will be able to see stats for all specs before you are in that spec when it drops
10:02.50nevcairielsounded more like the primary stat just switches
10:03.43nevcairielI dont think its entirely differently itemized
10:04.19nevcairielwith hit and expertise gone, the items are really quite universal
10:04.29nevcairieland it did seem like special stats like spirit will only be on non-armor
10:13.10sbmorning
10:13.38sbmissed all of blizzcon *sigh* so interesting sunday :o
10:17.51nevcairieljust watch the whats next panel and the raid and gameplay panel, and you'll be up to date
10:17.58nevcairielexiting stuff in there
10:19.04znfnevcairiel, so probably it's something like [Headpiece of nevcairiel] / +50 stamina, +50 primary attribute, +25 haste, +25 crit
10:19.11nevcairielpretty much
10:19.15nevcairielthats how i envision it
10:19.21sbnevcairiel: doing that right now, but opening thingy first
10:19.22Megalon+20 readiness, + speed
10:19.26Megalon+fasterloginqueue
10:19.58nevcairielznf: in case you didnt figure it out yet, sturdiness means the item wont damage when you die :p
10:20.09znfI just need confirmation of [headpiece of nevcariel] can drop with or without a tertiary stat
10:20.11znfyeah, figured it :P
10:20.27nevcairielit sounded like the same item can drop with different tertiary stats
10:20.41Megalonwhy not get rid of cloth/leather/mail/plate all together
10:20.48nevcairielor even a addon socket
10:21.03nevcairielif i understood the socket changes right
10:21.03znfcurios as how the gems will be, then
10:21.17znfwill they be tertiary stats?
10:21.17znfprocs?
10:21.26znfdoesn't sound like they want flat stats on them
10:21.50nevcairielmight be primary/secondary stats, they did say they want them to be a real bonus, stronger individual gems, but less gem slots all around
10:21.58nevcairielbut all will be revealed in time
10:22.07nevcairielthey might not even know for certain yet
10:22.11znfI don't have that much patience :(
10:22.14znfwant info faster
10:22.23znfand I'm still not clear about the loot system in normal/heroic
10:22.30nevcairielconsidering its playable at the con already, might be beta soonish, maybe january
10:22.35nevcairielits just normal loot
10:22.57znfwhat's with the personal loot option, then?
10:23.02znfthat "opt in" thingie?
10:23.03nevcairielonly lfr
10:23.16nevcairielwhat opt in thing, they didnt say anything about that
10:23.25znfThe new Flex loot model will work similar to how Master Loot does today, but the number of drops will scale based on the number of people eligible for loot in the group. The personal loot system won't be removed, you will just have to opt in to it.
10:23.42nevcairielwhere does it say that?
10:23.48nevcairielbecause the speakers didnt :p
10:24.00znfit's on mmo-c, and it was live blogged last night, too, if I remember corectly
10:24.16nevcairielso nothing official
10:24.19sbStanzilla: so you have to create a custom registry key for wow + win patch, right?
10:24.30nevcairieli watched the thing just earlier today, there was nothing about opt-in for normal mode
10:24.46znfI haven't watched the Q&A, was at work all night
10:24.50znfjust read the live blog from wowhead
10:25.42znfI read it somewhere last night...
10:25.44znfcan't remember where
10:26.00nevcairieli should watch the Q&A, maybe it was in there
10:26.14znflet me check the blue announcements
10:26.25znfah, yes
10:26.25znfin there
10:26.27znfhttp://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/279303-warlords-of-draenor-dungeons-and-raids/
10:26.40nevcairielin any case it doesnt really matter, if you want normal loot, just go normal, if not, your raid can decide to go personal
10:27.17znfwait, that's not it, either
10:27.19znfwhere the hell did I read it
10:27.50nevcairielthere most certainly wont be a per-person decision, since that makes no sense, so it will be a global raid option if its optional at all
10:29.09sboh, mobile hearthstone, thats going to be interesting
10:29.13sbbuybuy produktivity @ work
10:29.17sbbyebye :|
10:29.25sbwtf - i should buy something, its stuck in my brain
10:29.29nevcairielmaybe they should fire you
10:29.40znfmeh, I didn't like HS that much
10:29.43znfthe start was fun
10:29.51sbnevcairiel: j/k - never doing game/pr0n stuff at work
10:29.59znfthen I got pwned in PvP every other match and it got boring
10:30.42nevcairielanyhow i'm excited for the new expansion, just need to sneak into some raid spot to actually be able to experience it properly
10:30.53znfnow, the other curiosity is this:
10:30.58znfEach raid difficulty has its own lockout. They will be loot based lockouts, allowing you to kill the same boss multiple times per week and only get loot once a week.
10:31.05nevcairieljust like flex today
10:31.16znfI'm interesting in the loot part.
10:31.25nevcairieljust like flex today
10:31.37nevcairielevery boss gives you loot once
10:31.44nevcairielwell once on ev ery difficulty
10:31.46znfIf no personal looting, then how it will work? I'll have 25 players in raid, 24 are loot-locked, 1 isn't.
10:31.58znfWill the boss drop 5-6 items and only the unlocked guy will be eligible?
10:32.03znfOr will it drop only one item?
10:32.09nevcairielyou get loot for 24 people, and cant give it to number 25
10:32.16nevcairieler, other way around
10:32.17nevcairielbut yeah
10:33.07znfNow, -forged items, will we see them all difficulties? :-?
10:33.30Fiskerso cold
10:34.13Fisker
10:37.48Megalonlike winter
10:38.17znf16˚C here and sunny
10:38.17Fiskerchimney
10:38.18znfquite nice
10:38.28sb16.... :O
10:38.46sb5 here
10:39.04nevcairiel5-6 here as well
10:41.31Megalonsnow here ;o
10:42.01Megalonwinter is already here :<
10:45.34znfsnow sucks :(
10:46.51Megalonthe problem is that atm is the real shitty temperature zone
10:47.02wink20° last Friday \o/
10:47.06Megalonsnow + rain is like the worst of both worlds
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10:47.26Megaloncold as fuck = nice snow that just sits there, doing snow stuff
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11:05.45znfwonder why can't I spend my 4€ b.net balance to buy decks in HS
11:07.19quiescenshax
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12:28.50winkthat monk buff is so silly
12:29.16wink1h in howling fjord, 2 monks: level 70,0 to 71,9
12:29.24winkincl heirlooms
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13:17.14Stanzillasb: I only winpatched
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13:34.26nevcairielman the new female gnome looks really awesome
13:34.52Fiskersauce?
13:35.02nevcairielwatched the art panel
13:35.19FiskerTrying to watch the esports one
13:35.23sbStanzilla: thats not meant to help :p
13:35.24Fiskerbut it goes to another stream after 10-15 minutes
13:35.28Fiskerand I have to restart
13:35.31sbif you read the "supported games" thingy
13:35.31Fiskerwhich is fucking annoying
13:35.37Fiskernot to mention it lags in chrome fullscreen
13:35.55nevcairielchrome lags in video if it loses focus, its kinda silly
13:39.32Chosi!seen Deronda
13:39.48Chosi.seen anyone
13:39.50Chosimeh!
13:42.13Fiskermine does it regardless
13:45.37Megalon:<
13:47.30Fiskerdirectv should be shot
13:47.49Fiskerhow hard can it fucking be to just seperate the esports stream into matchups?
13:47.57Stanzillasb: I know
13:48.09Fiskerinstead of going "Here's an 8 hour stream of today, figure it out yourself, also we're randomly gonna reset the stream to another one"
13:48.46Megalonwhat do you wanna watch? the hearthstone tournament?
13:48.54Fiskernope
13:48.55Fiskersc2
13:49.04Fiskerhearthstone isn't an esport
13:49.17MegalonxD
13:50.13Megalonhttp://sc2links.com/tournament.php?tournament=WCS%20Grand%20Finals%202013
13:50.14Megalonhf
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14:18.51Stanzillanevcairiel: flex today?
14:19.01StanzillaI'm only there till 1900 though
14:19.01nevcairielwhen?
14:19.05Stanzilla17:30 I think
14:20.15nevcairielhow long does it usually take?
14:21.02Stanzilla2000 or so max
14:21.03Stanzillaiirc
14:21.11nevcairielsounds good
14:23.39nevcairielI'll join with my druid
14:24.01Stanzillaok
14:24.16Stanzillawill be mixed of GnarfUSA's raid, guys from our guild and randoms
14:25.51nevcairieli only know the first 4 bosses, but i guess I'll figure it out =p
14:25.57Stanzillayeah
14:26.33sbmeh, 1730!
14:26.57nevcairielarent you horde anyway, what do you care!
14:27.00Stanzillayou are horde scum anyway
14:27.08sbgf plays alliance :/
14:27.18Megalonkill her
14:27.33sberr no
14:27.42nevcairielvirtually!
14:27.58Megalonand literally!
14:28.26Megalonperhaps she already did died
14:30.47sbthought she could join, but 1730 is bad :D
14:31.59nevcairieli shouldnt have watched the other panels, now i'm really excited
14:32.06nevcairielalso, wtb new nelf skins
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16:24.02EthanCentauraiI wonder if tinystomper hates me yet. :|a
16:24.22Funkeh`who?
16:24.31EthanCentauraithe author of oQueue
16:24.50Funkeh`considering blizz are implementing their own, I can safely say no one gies a fuck what he thinks :P
16:25.02EthanCentauraiorly?
16:25.17nevcairielyes for 6.0
16:25.27nevcairielno silly mesh networking
16:25.30EthanCentauraiI know little about WoD
16:25.40Funkeh`hit up mmoc
16:25.55Funkeh`pretty much has all the slides in pictures
16:26.07EthanCentauraithey usually do
16:26.26EthanCentauraiI'll look later… I haven't had the urge to this time, WoD has been disappointing to me so far
16:26.48nevcairieldisappointing? it seems all pretty great so far
16:27.16EthanCentauraiI'm not a fan of the time-travel / paradox / parallel universe story
16:27.35Funkeh`http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2013/november/bconWoWRAD028.jpg
16:27.42RessyCaverns of Time was nothing but that.
16:27.43EthanCentauraibut as I said, I haven't done much research at all :P
16:27.46Funkeh`I think it's gonna be the best expansion yet :x
16:28.09nevcairielall they do is point the dark portal into the past
16:28.11nevcairieldeal with it :p
16:28.40Funkeh`so glad for item and stat squish
16:28.44Funkeh`like wewt
16:28.49nevcairielshouldve done it last expansion
16:29.04EthanCentauraiwhat happens to Outland then?
16:29.20nevcairielthey are not certain how to get there yet
16:30.04nevcairielbut they explained that the whole world story is kinda broken anyway with outland, since classic is basically in a cataclysm state, and outland is not really into that time
16:30.49nevcairielso maybe they'll move it into a caverns of time kinda deal, since from todays standpoint it really is in the past
16:30.54nevcairielbut that was just a pitched idea
16:30.55nevcairielwho knows
16:31.51EthanCentauraimaybe they'll add a lever to the Dark Portal like in the Daily Blink comic >.>
16:31.53Stanzillanevcairiel with my guild tag looks so weird :D
16:32.13nevcairieli assume you dont bother with voice for flex? :d
16:32.20nevcairielnvm :p
16:32.21Stanzillait's optional
16:32.26Stanzillabut most of us are there
16:33.39nevcairielhe posted the info after i asked :D
16:35.33nevcairielalso, i seriously hope nightelf eyes still glow in the new models
16:36.55quiescensmoo
16:37.06quiescensglowing eyes is ebil
16:37.25quiescenselves are ebil
16:39.10quiescensreroll into a moo
16:39.13quiescensnodnod
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16:47.31EthanCentaurairolls a Tauren Hunter named quiescens and spams Feign Death.
16:54.05quiescens):
17:01.29Aiuefeigns death.
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17:23.41KemayoI'm wondering if the new toy box means I can delete all my toys now, and have them all still be "unlocked" when it shows up.
17:24.47StanzillaI'm scared that deleted stuff does not count
17:24.50StanzillaI deleted so much shit
17:27.30KemayoWell, it does say that it's account-wide, so if they just scan for stuff in your bags when the patch hits, at least you'd be able to go grab it again with another character.
17:28.37quiescensi liked the throwy things that your target had to forcibly catch whether they wanted them or not
17:29.46KemayoDoes mean that I can delete all the duplicates, leaving just a single character overwhelmed for now. :)
17:35.44EthanCentauraiI'm gonna hold on to them, just to be safe
17:36.10nevcairieli didnt keep any of the toys from mop
17:36.16nevcairieljust too much shit
17:36.38nevcairielbut they could figure it out from quests done
17:37.03EthanCentauraiwe could always level another alt through Pandaria and earn them all again
17:37.04EthanCentaurai>.>
17:37.05EthanCentaurai<.<
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17:53.05Stanzillano thx
18:00.44nevcairieli only had 3, if thats what it takes, i will :p
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18:48.04Fiskeromg nevcairiel Stanzilla
18:48.06FiskerGnarfUSA will be so mad
18:48.12FiskerDay9 called it Nexii!
18:49.38nevcairielwhats a day9
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18:55.36Stanzillaa caster
19:02.25FiskerTasteless' brother!1
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19:48.06znfoh yay, login queue
19:48.11znfthat's what I get for waking up at 9pm :-/
19:56.00EthanCentaurailogin… queue?
19:58.45znfEthanCentaurai, yes
19:58.57znfhttp://i.imgur.com/LHXn25J.jpg
19:59.26EthanCentauraimy realm is dead :P
19:59.36EthanCentauraiI haven't seen a queue since WotLK came out
20:00.00znfI can't even use Shrine of 2Moons at this hour
20:00.10znfgrabbing mail takes like 10 seconds from the mailbox after I click it
20:00.20znftarget dummies are useless with about ~1s of casting lag
20:07.21winkouch
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20:24.24Repobig-wigs: 03maat * r11591 SiegeOfOrgrimmar/Galakras.lua:
20:24.25Reposhave off 5 sec from the first tower defender bar for the south tower
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20:57.57nevcairielznf: do what i did and switch realm
20:58.10znfno way
20:58.18znfnever going back to a less than high-pop realm
20:58.39nevcairielso you can wait in queue and not play during peak times because of lags? sounds like fun
20:59.13znfbeats not having anything to do
20:59.36znfbeats having an empty AH
20:59.38nevcairieleverything is cross realm these days, also there is a middle-ground between empty and full
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21:00.24znfstill not going back :P
21:00.31nevcairielwell then you dont get to complain
21:00.33znfI played on a dead realm for too many years to give up on this :)
21:00.36nevcairielnext time you do, i'll ban you!
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21:52.50znfStanzilla, why would HW accel work in FF but not in Chrome?
21:53.13Stanzillabecause chromeflash sucks balls
21:53.21Stanzillathe whole plugin and plugin handling is utter shit
21:53.35znfit worked friday!
21:53.50Stanzilladunno
21:53.54Stanzillanevcairiel: got much loot today?
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21:54.58znfStanzilla, http://i.imgur.com/cvN7fFQ.png
21:55.03znf:-(
21:55.08znfFF vs. Chrome
21:55.21znfthat is also weird in it's own way - why software video rendering?! >_<
21:59.19nevcairielStanzilla: dunno, 4 items or so, still need to see about that one weird trinket
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22:00.36Stanzillaok
22:02.06nevcairielhad to leave after spoils though, was already 9pm and didnt really have more time, it went really a bit slow in between
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22:03.34Stanzillawhat was at 9
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22:16.36znfStanzilla, w00t - disable pepper flash thingie, get accelerated video decoding
22:19.31Stanzillayeh
22:19.53Stanzillaznf: now try dual monitors and fullscreen
22:20.18znfbah, I got my 2nd screen faced away now :P
22:20.35Stanzillaspin it
22:20.37Stanzillaand try it
22:22.21znfworks
22:22.22znfO.o
22:23.16znfeven works with having a chrome tab on the 2ndary screen in fullscreen, and having the rest of the browser on the main screen
22:23.34znfblizzcon player still using 65% CPU :(
22:23.46Stanzillanice
22:24.32znfthey should really consider doing something about that retarded DirecTV
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22:38.46Repodiminishingreturns: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.3.5-2-gfafee38  (4 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
22:38.46Repofafee38: Fixed addon URLs in README.
22:38.46Repod4bbfe9: Use LibNameplateRegistry-1.0 instead of LibNameplate-1.0.
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23:00.53znfGOD DAMN STUPID BLIZZCON PLAYER
23:01.00znfI can't watch the video in full-screen
23:01.21znfafter ~30 minutes it starts stuttering
23:01.48znfgetting out of fullscreen somehow restarts the video from 0
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23:35.01MysticalOSAll I can say to my screwup is GDI
23:35.18MysticalOSRegisterEvent goes a long way in making things work...
23:41.44Sintacksznf, you sound mad
23:42.00znfSintacks, a bit :(
23:42.29Sintacksbut yes, that was happening the whole time (stuttering) and the only way to fix it was to reload which you would have to do at a good time to not miss anything important
23:42.30Sintackswhich wasn't easy
23:42.53znfI reloaded using videos, usually :-/
23:43.17Sintacksi should cook
23:43.19Sintacksbut i don't wanna
23:43.59znfnevcairiel, you're the video guru - why isn't this DXVA'd by any player? http://i.imgur.com/DQ9n9FV.png
23:45.25znfs/any player/any player I tried until now/
23:45.32MysticalOSI had to reload the blizzcon stream about once every 30 minutes to reset flash cpu usage since flash blows
23:46.23znfMysticalOS, just their retarded player. I don't have any issue with YouTube, for example
23:46.26znfjust their player sucked badly
23:46.41znfI tried watching the contest now, after ~30 minutes the video started stuttering
23:46.52znfI went out of fullscreen, the video restarted from 0 :-/
23:47.24znfso I'm doing it the "naughty" way
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