IRC log for #wowace on 20131103

00:03.47Repoora3: 03oscarucb * r693 modules/ReadyCheck.lua: make the setMemberStatus function hookable
00:04.35Reporoleicons: 03oscarucb * r150 RoleIcons.toc: add notes
00:05.02Reporoleicons: 03oscarucb * r151 RoleIcons.lua: add role icons to oRA3 ready check window
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04:15.21Reponpcscan: 03Torhal 07master * 5.4.1.1-27-g6b6a116  (6 files in 1 directory): [+21 commits] (17 truncated)
04:15.22Repo6b6a116: Removed some remnants of the old world system.
04:15.22Repoc9d0c0d: Switched to continent names in default options.
04:15.22Repo58645ef: Fixed version check for character SVs.
04:15.22Repo1d4651b: Removed TESTPRO from SavedVariables, whatever the hell that was...
04:15.42Reponpcscan: 03Torhal 045.4.1.2 * 8d59546 /: [new tag]
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04:22.07nebula169znf: what does the xml do? o.O it loads the lua file then creates a frame and sets it OnLoad and OnEvent handlers
04:22.16nebula169>.>
04:22.34znfyeah, figured
04:22.40znfthough my snippet is not working :(
04:26.27nebula169first arg to OnEvent is also self
04:27.42znfwhy is that godawful addon 806kb zipped?!
04:27.44znf(oQueue)
04:27.48nebula169well atleast he was consistant with the function
04:28.07quiescensmaybe it has images or textures or stuff
04:28.56znfhe's embedding fonts
04:29.00znfseriously? fonts?
04:29.04znfarialb and lucida_console?!
04:29.14znfand sounds
04:29.17TorhalCan he even legally do that with those?
04:29.36quiescensembed comic sans
04:29.54Torhalembeds quiescens in a moving train.
04:29.58quiescensdies.
04:30.05znfTorhal, pretty sure the answer is no
04:30.53Torhalznf: Might not be, though; depends on their license. Lucidia Console, I would think, isn't one he could though. May be wrong.
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04:31.45Torhalznf: He definitely should NOT be doing that: https://www.dropbox.com/s/albdbyab8wblmas/Screenshot%202013-11-02%2023.31.36.png
04:31.58znfI was reading the same thing
04:31.58Torhalhttp://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/font.aspx?FMID=1262
04:32.03nebula169can't with arial, either
04:32.21TorhalHe's just in how own world, nobody else matters.
04:32.23TorhalGood lord.
04:32.36TorhalHe's all "Fuck Blizzard, fuck Curse, fuck Microsoft! I do what I want!"
04:32.47nebula169its all over stupid shit, too
04:32.51TorhalYah.
04:33.20znfTorhal, can you provide some inside-info? ^^
04:33.29znfif it's not too sensitive
04:33.39nebula169its not on curse over donations, yea?
04:34.07znfDo you happen to know how many curse points was his addon generating?
04:36.34znfhis fuckin' font sucks
04:38.18nebula169Oqueue is a very poorly executed good idea with an author that has an attitude problem. He won't let anyone submit pull requests, won't let anyone make a compatible addon using the necessary portion of the code, and won't remove the useless features that 95% of people don't use into separate modules.
04:38.39Torhalznf: Just because he had a donation link in-game
04:38.48znfTorhal, I know.
04:38.58TorhalThat's the inside info
04:39.06TorhalDon't know what else you could have meant
04:39.24znfTorhal, I meant - how many curse points did he rack up on his addon before you guys pulled the plug on him?
04:39.32znfnebula169, explain about the compatible addon.
04:39.52Torhalznf: Oh, a modest amount and it was growing.
04:40.04znfTorhal, define modest :P
04:41.09TorhalI said modest intentionally in lieu of a number.
04:41.26znfI know :D
04:41.32nebula169znf: claimed rights to the protocol he uses, bitch fit over addons that tried to implement it
04:41.34znfand what the fuck is this - http://i.imgur.com/UCpeo7w.jpg
04:42.24nebula169looks like a terrible shadow priest to me
04:42.30znfthe icons with the gems
04:42.35TorhalAhahaha
04:42.37znfthat's from oqueue, too
04:42.46TorhalMouse over them
04:43.01nebula169enchanted, gems, and the ilvl i imagine
04:43.15znfyeah... and I can't see an option to disable that..
04:43.23znfthe hell is wrong with this guy?
04:44.09znfI'm tempted to dig in the code and remove every useless shit, repackage it and redistribute it
04:44.42nebula169i'm purposely avoided getting it for that reason
04:47.22znflet's start with those damn awful fonts
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04:51.45TorhalIt's some really fucked code. I looked.
04:52.13znf"digital signature authentication for oqueue"
04:52.16znfare you fuckin' kidding me?
04:52.30TorhalThe code he's using for that is on the web
04:52.41TorhalAnd there's no indication of what the copyright is.
04:52.54znfmy only question is... why? :-/
04:53.00znfI mean, really? he needed DSA?!
04:53.05TorhalHahahaha
04:53.50znfhmmm, can he do checks for file modifications?
04:54.29znfwait, holy fuck, oqueue.lua _IS_ 733kb
04:54.42Semlaroqueue is the worst thing ever
04:54.57znflike nebula169 said - the idea is great, the addon is utter-shit
04:55.05Semlari tried to read through it once
04:55.16Semlarthat was a regretful decision
04:56.27Semlari was kicking around the idea for a similar non-cross-realm addon that just used a global channel but i haven't bothered starting anything
04:57.33Semlarsomething kind of like the server list you get on steam
04:58.57nebula169from the faq: There is a global ban list for the exploiters, once on it you won’t be able to use this addon anymore. Tampering with oQueue code in anyway for whatever the reason puts you on this list.
04:59.21znfcan he actually detect that?
04:59.25Semlarno
04:59.27nebula169no idea
05:00.03Semlarbut it's a pretty good way to get people to think twice about editing it
05:00.55znfI think this comes from a thread I saw on ownedcore once, there was a post about editing your ilvl straight into oq
05:00.56nebula169i remember people were bitching about him adding people to the global ban list for arguing with him over shit
05:01.13nebula169pretty much every post i've ever read by him is a tantrum
05:01.22Semlarshocking
05:01.50Semlari was going to name it qQueue
05:04.42Semlarthat's probably in bad taste
05:04.50TorhalSemlar: Hah. Kaelten already did that with a debug lib though.
05:04.52nebula169i'd use it
05:05.06SemlarIT'S TAKEN!?
05:05.10SemlarNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
05:06.59znfI like my delete button today!
05:07.04znfDELETE CHUNKS OF CODE!
05:07.11Semlardelete all the code!
05:07.12nebula169pvp shit? DELETED
05:07.13TorhalSemlar: Oh, nevermind - he named it "QQ"
05:07.23Semlarso there's hope..
05:08.46znfI don't mind the pvp shit
05:08.54znfI actually installed it now thinking I'd find someone to do arenas at this hour
05:09.24nebula169it does all sorts of score keeping and ranking for pvp stuff
05:09.28znfbut I don't get the need for stats, ranking and other shit
05:09.36znfor "bounty"
05:09.40znfwhy the fuck would i care? >_<
05:10.30Semlarthe last time i looked at it there were just random globals like "f"
05:11.17Semlari know this, because i was using "f" as a placeholder name for a function i was trying to test and oq was overwriting it
05:14.05znfbye bye score tab
05:21.54znfwth are lucky charms? o.o
05:22.01nebula169marks
05:22.06Semlarbreakfast cereal
05:22.54znf3 functions for "UI shade"
05:22.57znffor a fuckin' shadow?
05:23.36nebula169window shade is hiding the body while still showing the title bar
05:23.41nebula169if thats the naming
05:23.43nebula169meaning*
05:24.02znfstill don't care for it
05:32.21znfnebula169,
05:32.22znf<PROTECTED>
05:32.25znfthat's his "shade"
05:32.29nebula169ah
05:39.50znfwish I had a SSD now with all the reloading
05:41.19znfwhy does this shit addon has a "threat ui"?!??
05:45.53Repolibtexttable-1-1: 03Torhal 07master * 6f96075 LibTextTable-1.1.toc: [+1 commit] Updated ToC Interface version to 50400
05:46.04Repolibtexttable-1-1: 03Torhal 045.4.1.1 * 9006fa5 /: [new tag]
05:47.18znfyay Torhal is coding
05:47.47znfso, Torhal, if hypotethically someone would "clean up" a version of oQueue and post it on curseforge, what would happen?
05:47.57TorhalI'd delete the project.
05:48.19znfI see
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05:48.21TorhalI'm not particularly fond of the damn thing or its owner's attitude, but Copyright...
05:48.40nebula169silly znf, its arr
05:49.00znfnebula169, I was looking for the license, but couldn't find anything
05:49.09TorhalNo license means ARR.
05:49.20znfow
05:49.20nebula169<PROTECTED>
05:49.21nebula169<PROTECTED>
05:49.21nebula169<PROTECTED>
05:49.21nebula169<PROTECTED>
05:49.29znfoh, mkay
05:50.26Torhalznf: So, based on your comment on my tagging of a library, I guess you missed this:
05:50.26Torhal[23:15:21] Repo: npcscan: Torhal master * 5.4.1.1-27-g6b6a116  (6 files in 1 directory): [+21 commits] (17 truncated)
05:50.34Torhal:D
05:50.44znfI ignored it
05:50.48TorhalHah
05:52.11znfwhere the hell is that donate button
05:52.18TorhalOptions?
05:52.32TorhalI just looked at the code after a report and found it.
05:52.47Torhalgrep for beer or Beer
05:52.52TorhalIt's a PayPal link.
05:53.07znfyeah, was searching for the texture
05:54.10Semlarisn't that against the ToS
05:54.28Semlarasking for donations in game
05:54.30TorhalSemlar: That's why I put the project into moderation and now nobody can download it from Curse.
05:54.33nebula169which is why it's not on curse anymore
05:54.40Semlarah
05:54.53TorhalThat was in the middle of last month.
05:55.00TorhalHe's just updating on his own site now.
05:55.17TorhalHence the "Fuck Blizzard, and Curse, and Microsoft!" (the last was for including copyrighted fonts)
05:55.49nebula169he actually supported win-trading and other pvp shenanigans for awhile
05:57.49znfdear god, so much shit in this :(
05:57.56znfdunno what to remove anymore... that much shit is in there
05:58.20Semlarit would probably be easier to just rewrite the whole thing
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05:58.46znfI lack the skills
05:58.50nebula169usually the case
05:59.11Semlari lack the motivation
05:59.44TorhalI have a very large case of "Oh, fuck that!"
05:59.44Semlari don't even finish the projects i like
06:00.03TorhalBesides, I'm busy rewriting _NPCScan like I did ARL.
06:00.52znfvery useful: http://i.imgur.com/lue8zPN.png
06:01.31nebula169first two days of rewriting an addon: reformatting everything to fit my coding style
06:01.47Semlarx1=0/128
06:01.56Semlar:|
06:02.52znfTorhal, why are you rewriting NPCScan, btw?
06:03.45Torhalznf: It was in dire need.
06:04.02znfoops, I broke the ilvl checking
06:04.23TorhalPlus it's mine now, so it didn't seem right having a project I wasn't working on...and I couldn't work on it without making the code sensible
06:06.10znfif (oq.is_banned( player_realid )) then     oq.remove_all_premades() ;
06:06.11znflol
06:07.09Semlar:l
06:07.18znfmeh, so many ban checks :P
06:07.37znfnodes won't communicate with banned people, it seems
06:07.56Semlari've decided the next time i write something i don't want people messing with it's going to be 20,000 lines of incomprehensible nonsense
06:08.47Semlarbut it's only going to have a couple hundred lines that actually do anything
06:09.26nebula169would be consider obfuscation and violate addon policy
06:09.28Semlarthat way when people open it they go WOW this is complicated
06:09.49Semlari don't know, it's not exactly obfuscation
06:10.37nebula169you just said to prevent messing with it, in essence hiding the execution of the code
06:10.41Semlareverything should be perfectly readable
06:10.53Semlarit'll just have a lot of superfluous code
06:10.58nebula169which is what obfuscation is
06:11.47Semlarmaybe i'm just a really bad programmer
06:12.11nebula169if only that was against addon policy ;[
06:12.30Semlarlucky for me
06:13.46znfso, if an addon is found breaching the addon policy, what happens?
06:14.03Semlarthey put a hit out on the author
06:14.23znfif only..
06:23.54Torhalznf: Ostensibly, Blizzard bans the AddOn. In practice, though, I don't let it on Curse and Cairenn doesn't let it on WoWI.
06:24.14Cairenn^^
06:25.01CairennAnd we talk to each other
06:25.22znftoo bad it does nothing in this case
06:37.53Fiskerthat's cheating
06:42.12znfFisker, your face!
06:42.20Fiskernope znf
06:44.26Repoxloot: 03Xuerian 07master * z14c-release-1-g4a89047 Modules/Group/Group.lua: [+1 commit] Group: Add sanity check when updating loot toasts
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06:53.17Repowim-3: 03znuff * r386 Modules/Filters.lua: Added oQueue strings to Filters.lua
06:58.18znfWeird. HandyNotes rapes my CPU for some reasons when I move
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07:29.13znfman, Torhal, the default policy on CurseForge sucks :(
07:29.17znf(repo policy)
07:29.32Torhalznf: Huh?
07:29.45znfthe default policy of repositories on curseforge :(
07:29.49znfwish it would have been Open
07:29.52TorhalAgain: Huh?
07:29.53TorhalAh
07:30.07TorhalYah, prencher ninja-changed that about a year ago.
07:30.15znfon CF I mean
07:30.16TorhalIt WAS open.
07:30.21znfwasn't that always set to private?
07:30.28znfnot WoWAce
07:30.33znfI know wowace got changed last year or so
07:30.38TorhalI dunno, I do know he ninja-changed it on WoWAce.
07:30.40TorhalYah.
07:30.54nebula169really? it defaults to private now? i never noticed
07:31.06TorhalYah. Bullshit, considering that's NOT WoWAce.
07:31.18TorhalI'll have it changed when we go to the new platform.
07:31.44znfEvery time I get the urge to update an addon because its author left it behind, I stumble upon repos being private :(
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07:39.07znfhmmm, if a table is defined as local, I have no way to query it's data from another addon, right?
07:39.14Semlaryep!
07:39.25znf:-(
07:39.42znfthere goes my idea...
07:40.21Semlaryou could make it not local
07:40.32FiskerProbably another persons addon Semlar
07:40.39znfyeah
07:40.58znfwas thinking of somehow importing the TUJ database into Auctionator
07:41.21Semlaryou sure that's local
07:41.25znfyeah
07:41.32znflocal addonName, addonTable = ...
07:42.07Semlarthey don't put it into saved variables or anything
07:42.37znfnah
07:42.42znfthere's a function that you can use to query
07:45.21znfI'm really annoyed by TUJ's huge tooltip (and the fact that you can't hide lines from it)
07:45.38Semlarmy mob tooltip takes up half the screen
07:45.44Semlari should do something about that
07:45.50znfwhy? O.O
07:46.00Semlari put every ability they can cast into it
07:46.13Semlarmostly for testing the addon
07:46.18Semlarand i just kind of left it like that
07:46.50znfheh
07:46.53Semlarand it's not just the abilities you'd expect to see on wowhead, it's all their internal triggers and stuff and that really adds up
07:47.06znfuhm, whoever had the idea to make the search button so small on curse.com?! o.o
07:47.23Semlarprobably torhal
07:47.50Semlari use http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/?site=+
07:48.08Semlarif ever i'm searching
07:48.24Torhalstabs Semlar with an enormous tooltip.
07:48.29Semlardies
07:48.39Semlardramatically though
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07:48.46znfthis addon has such a nice idea: http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/your-mark
07:48.48Semlarwith lots of fanfare
07:48.50znfyet so shitty executed :(
07:48.55quiescensresses semlar
07:48.57znfTorhal, write an addon like that!
07:49.07TorhalLike what?
07:49.16znf^ on your mark
07:49.53znfideal features: select between mark(s) and text(s)
07:50.21znf- configuration save
07:50.31znf- send configurations to other guildies/officers
07:50.43Semlarhit the accept button for the rez but nothing happened
07:50.44TorhalThere's a reason I usually concentrate on data-centric AddOns. I don't actually have to play WoW.
07:50.50znfow :-(
07:50.53Torhal:D
07:51.00znfI'm noticing a silly pattern in our guild
07:51.16TorhalThat UI looks horribad though
07:51.17znfofficers going all "hey, if you're not here tonight, can you share me the macro with group assignments for X boss?"
07:51.21znfyeah, the UI is horrible
07:51.29znfwouldn't be half as bad if it would work
07:51.32znfbut it's been broken for ages now
07:52.04znfalso, would really save up on macro slots for my officers
07:52.25Semlarwhy don't you just yell at people over vent like a normal raid
07:52.51znfPeople forget it's their turn to use cooldowns, for example :P
07:53.17TorhalOMG THE CODE
07:53.18znflots of reasons we don't yell over
07:53.23znfyeah, don't look at the code...
07:53.42TorhalUsually everyone squishes everything together so it's like "HOW THE FUCK DO YOU READ THIS SHIT?!?"
07:53.47TorhalThis is exactly the opposite
07:53.58nebula169i remember someone recently making an addon that's basically a sharable text area for cd order/whatever
07:53.59TorhalA three-line function takes 20 lines it has so much whitespace
07:54.09TorhalAnd ---------------------------- before and after every function
07:54.21znfnebula169, which?
07:54.42znfwould be nice to have some sort of intelligent assigner
07:55.20znflike, for example, you save a configuration for a boss, next time you kill it, you're missing someone from the list, it "greys him out" and notifies that X person is missing and you should replace him in the cooldown list/rotation
07:55.45znf(yes, that happens lots of times)
07:55.47nebula169think it was one of ywfn's addons
07:56.00znfywfn?
07:56.06nebula169http://www.wowace.com/addons/angry-assignments/
07:56.40znfthat's not bad
07:56.54Semlari think everyone in our raid just kind of knows what to do i guess
07:57.40znfSemlar, 10 or 25?
07:57.43Semlar10
07:58.07nebula169sure after it's on farm, but learning shit and coordinating cds, have so many macros to spam during fights so people know the order
07:58.10znfwell, that's why... :P
07:58.12Semlari wish we could get 25 people on at the same time
07:58.13znfwe're doing 25 :D
07:58.23Semlar25s are ez mode
07:58.24znfand our roster is around 34 people
07:58.36SemlarSO MUCH LOOT
07:59.00znfso much failure...
07:59.05znfso much room to screw up
07:59.44Semlareach person matters less and you get 2 extra battle rezzes though
07:59.54znfused to be the case...
07:59.59znfbut thin of Amber Shaper, for example
08:00.09znfso much time until everyone got reshaped and learned what to do...
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08:01.37Semlarah, but that's not because there are 25 people
08:01.50Semlarthat's because those people can't be bothered to learn the fight
08:02.26nebula169in 10s you need 15 less people to learn the fight :p
08:02.28znfwell, true, but still, people had no idea how to set up their UIs properly, they went into panic mode the first time they got reshaped
08:02.30nevcairielthere is two sides to that coin really, in 25 every single person matters less and an individual screw up can be forgiven easier
08:02.42nevcairielhowever, in many cases you also get more slackers to fill up the group
08:02.56Semlarthe difficulty of a 25 man is based around actually get 25 people to do what they're supposed to
08:03.08Semlargetting*
08:03.21znfwhen we downscaled to 10 for holidays, our raids were like 1-2 hours shorter, because we blazed trough everything when we had our best players
08:03.32znfactively maintaining a roster for 25 is hard work :-
08:03.58nevcairielthe logistics for 25 are just harder, which is what most 25 guilds struggle with
08:04.09Semlarwe could do 25 man if our guild's schedules actually lined up
08:04.19Semlarbut as it is we have 2 10 mans on different nights
08:04.34znfback in 5.0 we seriously considered downscaling to 10m forever, because it was hard to maintain a roster :(
08:04.42znfnow we're just over-recruiting
08:05.33znfnebula169, anyway, that addon is nice, though I wish I didn't have to make everyone install the addon
08:05.38znfdoesn't seem to be able to send-to-chat
08:06.16nevcairielman installing windows updated on a fresh win7 takes longer then installing the OS itself
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08:07.13znfso, Torhal, cookie?
08:07.18quiescensme pats repo
08:07.20quiescensaw
08:07.24quiescenspats repo
08:08.11znfI'd post it in the addon sugestion forum, but I think that's mostly empty these days :(
08:09.22nebula169znf: i mean, could post a ticket and ask for it, wouldn't be hard to implement
08:09.46Torhalznf: Huh?
08:09.48znfnebula169, yeah, I know, but a lot of features would not translate directly to chat
08:09.52znfTorhal, addon, marks! ^^
08:09.56TorhalYou do realize I've said that to you like four times tonight.
08:10.03znfnebula169, like spell icons
08:10.12znfTorhal, level with me, alright, I had 1.5L of black tea
08:10.14TorhalI'm actually rewriting Saiket code at the moment.
08:10.58TorhalHe's one of those code-squishers; Hey, this function just ended...let's start another! Fuck vertical whitespace!
08:11.17znfisn't there any tool to tidy Lua code?
08:11.24TorhalAnd I think he's worse than Ackis at commenting shit that's clearly going on from a cursory glance at the code.
08:11.43nevcairielah love those people; -- increment i by i\n i = i+1
08:11.56nevcairielthe second i is supposed to be a 1
08:12.14TorhalHere's one:
08:12.16Torhal--- @return Element regions in the row.
08:12.17Torhalfunction RowMethods:GetElements ()
08:12.22Torhalheaddesks.
08:12.26znfSaiket had some really nice addons
08:12.36znfI love _DevPad for example
08:12.42nevcairielmeh on a function level thats not so extremely terrible
08:12.48TorhalI think Phanx might have picked that one up.
08:12.51nevcairielits worse if its inside the code
08:13.01Torhalnevcairiel: Oh, it is. That was just an example.
08:13.09znfI don't think she did, last update was in 2012
08:13.25Semlarincrements nevcairiel by nevcairiel
08:13.39znfTorhal, btw, like, really, when they redesigned curse.com, how hard was it to preserve or translate old download link to the new format? :-/
08:14.48znfhttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/npcscan.aspx -> http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/npcscan
08:14.51Torhalznf: No idea. That was the brainchild of two people who left the company immediately after the fucking site launch.
08:15.03znfdoesn't sound too complicated regex...
08:15.07znfmod_rewrite that bitch >_<
08:15.09Semlaryou'd have to like.. add a rewrite rule..
08:15.23Semlarwho's got time for that
08:15.56quiescenssilly znf
08:16.27Semlari have written sooo many rewrite rules
08:16.53Semlarpossibly too many
08:18.49nevcairieli hate that it doesnt even rewrite wow.curse.com to www.curse.com
08:18.53nevcairieli always still use the first
08:18.58nevcairieljust gets an empty page
08:19.09znftrue
08:19.38znfCurses' organization looks weird from the outside
08:19.43Torhalnevcairiel: I could have probably had that fixed awhile ago.
08:20.03Repopaste: 03oscarucb * r20 core.lua:
08:20.03Repoenforce a minimum frame size, to work around AceGUI stupidity
08:20.17nebula169oh snap
08:20.29znfTorhal, add a rewrite rule, too :P
08:20.36TorhalNo.
08:20.55TorhalIt's been two years since the relaunch; I can't help it that you can't let it go.
08:21.29znfwould be more hits for the website *shrug*
08:21.52znfthere's places that link to the old site for addons
08:22.10TorhalWhere the hell did you even get that link?
08:22.36znfSaiket's page
08:23.07znfI'm sorry if this hits close to home - but the "redesign" is horrible in some places
08:23.18TorhalIt's a complete piece of shit.
08:23.29TorhalMost everyone hated it before it launched.
08:23.32znfwow.curse.com would be nice to be redirected to http://www.curse.com/addons/wow
08:23.44TorhalBut it was under direction of the then-current product manager.
08:23.45znfto reach the addon page you have to go to curse.com -> downloads -> WoW
08:24.33TorhalWe're going to improve it again, but first is the CF revamp.
08:24.46TorhalThat started with the new store (which we're still iterating on)
08:25.04TorhalThe new transactions listing method makes me want to shoot people.
08:25.28TorhalSure, it's MUCH better-looking than the old one, but functionally it's horrible.
08:26.46znfI like how the url is https://store.curseforge.com/store
08:26.51znfyou can never have enough stores! :P
08:27.16znfTorhal, I think it would be a bit better if there was no expand feature :-/
08:29.03znfTorhal, personally I also dislike the location of the price in points, it's a bit unintuitive
08:29.41nevcairieli like the new store front page
08:29.49nevcairielbut i agree the transaction list is silly
08:31.29Torhalznf: How is the upper-left corner unintuitive?
08:32.32znfTorhal, don't recall ever seeing a store with the price information in the upper-left corner. Also, it's the same color as "in stock" information. I'm usually looking for that info somewhere below
08:35.11Torhalznf: Heh, I don't even see that. Until I get my normal permissions on the store site, all I se is: https://www.dropbox.com/s/kgas2m20rglpnzg/Screenshot%202013-11-03%2002.34.26.png
08:35.36znfhttp://i.imgur.com/94OaXL6.png
08:36.05nevcairieli like that layout *shrug*
08:36.22Semlarmight make more sense to have the cost next to the quantity
08:36.31znfI don't mind the layout. It just feels weird to have the "price" in the top-left corner
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08:39.38TorhalThey did it just to piss you off.
08:39.49znfYUP!
08:39.50Torhal...and to make you bitch about something other than your SP.
08:39.53Torhal:D
08:41.23znfmy SP?
08:41.44TorhalShadow Priest
08:42.18znfI haven't bitched about that in ages
08:42.20znfnow go add a rewrite rule
08:42.24znfactually, more than one
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08:43.59Repo1dce28d: General reformatting.
08:43.59Repo6dbda89: Kill the if () parentheses.
08:43.59Repo30236c5: Un-squishify the code. Honestly, a modicum of vertical whitespace is a GOOD thing.
08:43.59Repoe7d562c: Comment reformatting and/or removal.
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09:05.52nebula169Torhal: 1 points! FIX IT
09:07.15Torhalnebula169: I wish I could. I'm working on the localization stuff, though. I can point (LOL) it out, but really only employees will ever see it so...
09:07.56Semlari would like a 5 cent gift card
09:10.10TorhalSemlar: I can't get gift cards. Having a W-2 and a 1099 from the same company is bad or something, so it goes on my paycheck.
09:11.36znfTorhal, so you cash out the curse points directly to your paycheck?
09:11.48TorhalYar.
09:11.50znfcool
09:12.03znfbut you do get points, right?
09:12.28TorhalI'm confused on whether I should actually answer that or not.
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09:12.41znfI mean, your account shows points?
09:12.58TorhalYes.
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09:13.37Fiskertackles nevcairiel
09:16.53nevcairielno
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09:21.36Semlartickles nevcairiel
09:24.21znfFiskers Fisker
09:24.29Fiskerwhy znf?
09:24.38Fiskercuddles nevcairiel
09:28.00znfFisker, why is my XBMC not receiving AirPlay thingies? :*
09:28.01znf:(
09:28.09Fiskerbecause zero fucks are given
09:28.09quiescensit doesn't like you
09:28.26FiskerDo you also regularily call up bill gates for support with your mac?
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09:30.36znfoh! it needs Bonjour
09:34.59Repodrdata-1-0: 03Adirelle 07master * v2.8.5-2-gf872f94 DRData-1.0.lua: [+2 commits]
09:34.59Repof872f94: Updated some comments.
09:35.00Repo472ef53: Fixed Partial Paralysis (Shiv effect with Paralytic Poison).
09:35.09Repodrdata-1-0: 03Adirelle 04v2.8.6 * 44a4fcd /: [new tag] Fixed Partial Paralysis (Shiv effect with Paralytic Poison).
09:45.52Stanzillamorning
09:47.18nevcairielmornin
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09:55.58Stanzillanevcairiel: how's your gear coming along?
09:58.09nevcairielhttp://eu.battle.net/wow/de/character/zirkel-des-cenarius/Maea/simple
09:58.32nevcairielreally, lfr is "Schlatzugsbrowser" in german? really?
09:58.38nevcairielschlachtzugsbrowser*
09:58.39Stanzillayeah :(
09:58.44Stanzillaalso nice luck on the head
09:59.10nevcairielsome rare dropped a second burden, got chest pretty ok too
09:59.15znfhmmm, so, this guy who wanted me to work for him keeps calling me...
09:59.37nevcairielonly trinket items didnt want to drop at all
09:59.38znfand I really don't feel like answering him :-/
09:59.53nevcairieland got a weapon from lfr, only 476, but hey
10:00.23Stanzillayou could do the lore quest for a small upgrade to boots
10:00.27Stanzillait gives 502 ones
10:00.50nevcairieli'm finishing the normal zone quests now, after that i'll see about the other stuff
10:00.53Stanzillaoh and I can craft you the engi trinket
10:01.02nevcairielwhich one?
10:01.03Stanzillathat is 450+3 uber gems
10:01.06nevcairieldragonling?
10:01.09Stanzillayes
10:02.27nevcairieli was hoping to get one from lfr or so, still have like 10 raid wings to lfr :P
10:02.36Stanzillaok :D
10:02.46nevcairielonly did MV and HoF yesterday
10:05.44nevcairielbut i'll let you know otherwise
10:07.59SemlarKritische Fernkampftrefferchance
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10:14.17oscarucbomg Blizzard fails so hard at daylight savings
10:16.36oscarucbRight now GetQuestResetTime() is returning a negative time
10:21.44Stanzillanevcairiel: I hope you started the legendary chain before doing that
10:23.13Stanzillanevcairiel: also before doing throne lfr, make sure you buy some extra loot tokens from timeless coins
10:37.30Stanzillahoho
10:37.38Stanzillajust found an awesome bug in pb4
10:37.46Stanzillagives you 0 fps until combat ends
10:38.30nevcairielStanzilla: yes i started legendary first thing on 90 for the damn reputation
10:38.37Stanzillagood
10:38.39nevcairielfound a few rares that gave rep towards that, too
10:38.47nevcairielyour realm is apparently full of rares that noone kills :P
10:39.09Stanzillayes
10:39.25nevcairielalso, pandaren rares are fucking annoying
10:40.06nevcairielthat spinning kick thing just kills my pet instantly if i dont manage to recall it in time
10:41.03Stanzilla:D
10:41.15Stanzillaso now the guys in my lfr instantly pulled the boss
10:41.19Stanzillaso I could not drop combat
10:41.22Stanzillastill 1fps
10:42.14nevcairielhm i should do a lfr too
10:43.41Stanzillathank god, fight is over
10:46.06znfhmmm, AirPlay is actually quite nifty
10:48.07Fiskerhey Stanzilla
10:48.15Stanzillahey Fisker
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10:50.13Stanzilladamn
10:50.16Stanzilla2 sigil of power missing
10:51.42nevcairieli got 3/3 this week so far
10:52.05Stanzillayeah it drops really good now that it was buffed twice
10:56.37Fiskerl
10:58.04Stanzillathis is going to end well
10:58.11Stanzilla2 sigils missing, 1 boss remaining
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10:59.05Stanzillaalso nevcairiel I'm so calling your char "MΓ€h!"
10:59.29nevcairielits more like "May"
10:59.42StanzillamΓ€h!
11:03.54Fiskerrunning 4.4 btw Stanzilla?
11:04.41StanzillaFisker: nah, is there a ota release yet?
11:04.47Fiskerno
11:05.04Stanzillaok
11:06.16StanzillaFisker: are you then?
11:06.21Fiskernope
11:06.31FiskerProbably gonna try it out in an hour or so
11:07.02Stanzillawith which version?
11:09.18nevcairielmeh, another ring
11:10.38Fiskerhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506678 <-this one I think
11:10.53Stanzillaah
11:16.05Repoarl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.5.7 Database/ (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Fixed some recipe items which were marked BoE instead of BoP.
11:16.05Repoarl: 03Torhal 042.5.7 * 3d846d2 /: [new tag]
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11:29.35Reposkada: 03cremor * r458 Skada.lua:
11:29.35RepoFixed activating Skada after joining a group if "Hide when solo" is enabled and "Hide in PvP" is disabled (was broken in r445).
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11:37.08Stanzillanebula169: ping
11:37.13nebula169yoh
11:37.51Stanzillanebula169: I can't figure out which part of that stuff is really the cause http://paste2.org/aUMea9n4
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11:52.44GnarfozStanzilla: clearly, you should call nevcairiel's char "Maia" :D
11:53.00Stanzillatrue
11:54.15StanzillaGnarfoz: can you wake me when I fall asleep and dont show up at 5?
11:54.59Gnarfozit's going to be 17:30, but how would I wake you
11:54.59Gnarfoz:D
11:55.05Stanzillaphone!
11:55.06Stanzillaand ok
11:55.32nevcairielset an alarm?
11:55.45Stanzillameh
11:55.58GnarfozI don't think I have your number
11:56.13Stanzillacan't you hangout call or so?
11:58.42GnarfozI have no idea
11:58.48Gnarfozprobably
11:58.55znfhey, that 300 int food recipe is nice
12:07.39Stanzillanebula169: any idea?
12:07.55nebula169nope
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13:41.03Fiskermirror are slow as fuck Stanzilla
13:41.10Fiskerand my computer won't recognize my n4 for some reason
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14:30.03Repoarl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.5.7-4-gbfc429a Core.lua: [+4 commits]
14:30.03Repobfc429a: Finally got around to cleaning up the command handler.
14:30.03Repo17ac3cb: Don't allow mistyped profession names or silly words to reach the Scan method.
14:30.03Repo2f662ec: Yanked now-unnecessary do-block.
14:30.03Repoa1a2087: Removed StrSplit function in favor of simply using AceConsole's GetArgs method: To scan the First Aid profession, simply enclose it in quotes.
14:38.55znfTorhal is still on a roll
14:39.06znfdude, you've been up for almost as much as I have been, I think O.O
14:39.52Torhalznf: 22 hours at this point. About to crash for a few hours, and only a few hours, so I don't wake up at 7pm since I have to go to the office tomorrow.
14:40.07znfHA! beat you
14:40.09znf23 hours here
14:40.21znfand I'm going out with some friends
14:40.27TorhalHeh.
14:40.28znfwhile I have to wake up at 7am tomorow \o/
14:40.43Torhal:/
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14:42.41Repoautoprofitlite: 03kanadian * r14  (2 files in 1 directory): - Fixed GetCVar issue
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15:35.58RepoNew addon: AdiButtonAuras - http://www.wowace.com/addons/adibuttonauras/
15:38.58Fiskerhey Stanzilla
15:39.26Stanzillahi
15:39.34FiskerOn 4.4 now
15:39.59Stanzillaaaand?
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15:41.22Fiskernothin'
15:45.51Fiskerit's ok to be jelly
15:47.24Gnarfozgood
15:47.27Gnarfozsince most of us still are
15:51.15FiskerI get it
15:56.44Repoarl: 03resa1983 07master * 2.5.7-6-g1df20cc Database/ (9 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
15:56.45Repo1df20cc: Merge branch 'master' of git.wowace.com:wow/arl/mainline
15:56.45Repod6dcfae: Update to trainers in Icecrown
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15:59.40Stanzillahttp://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-gaming/mouse-lag-in-video-games-since-upgrading-to/85c28c06-b13c-43be-8282-88528c42e400
16:04.08nevcairielthat addresses the lag issues, i see nothing that may translate to the wow issue
16:04.16nevcairielalso, i installed win7 again, never had the issue here :p
16:04.18Stanzillayeah sadly
16:04.26Stanzillaso you are on 7 again now?
16:04.31nevcairielyes
16:04.34Stanzillaok
16:04.49nevcairielpeople claim that it happened there too sometimes, but never for me, so they can screw themself =)
16:05.38Stanzillaokay
16:06.35StanzillaTorhal: curse sync broken?
16:10.32TorhalStanzilla: Not a clue.
16:10.39TorhalWhy?
16:11.31StanzillaTorhal: latest of http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/affdotspriest is not showing up in the client
16:13.06Torhal:/
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16:28.48Stanzillanevcairiel: flex?!
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16:34.24quiescens?
16:37.57Fisker!
16:40.09quiescens\o/
16:41.13Repoarl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.5.7-7-ge6906d8  (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Added developer dump commands: "/arl dump <command>" - bossids, phrases, profession, and zones.
16:41.21TorhalRessy: ^
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16:46.34Ressynice
16:46.43TorhalRessy: One sec, about to push again
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16:50.25Repoarl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.5.7-9-ga519223 Utilities.lua: [+2 commits]
16:50.25Repoa519223: Added "empties" dump subcommand - shows sources without recipes.
16:50.25Repod0c63b7: Added some input protections.
16:50.32TorhalRessy: There.
16:50.58TorhalAnd if you forget the commands, just /arl dump
16:51.37RessyThis should be fun.. :)
16:51.39Ressythx
16:51.43Torhal:D
16:51.54RessyAre you adding them to Collectinator as well?
16:52.15TorhalI don't even know what exists over there at this point, but I could.
17:04.18nevcairielyay, my phone has shipped
17:04.22nevcairielStanzilla: nah, I'
17:04.43nevcairielI'll pass, maybe next time, got something to do for now
17:04.54Stanzillaok :(
17:05.13Fiskeryay nevcairiel
17:05.19Fiskersoon we'll all be nexus 5'ing
17:05.36nevcairielno tracking info yet
17:06.27Fiskerwhat happened to my nexii Stanzilla?
17:06.31Fiskerjust sitting pretty?
17:06.41Stanzillaprobably
17:08.18Repoarl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.5.7-10-gff3765f Core.lua: [+1 commit] Ensure arg1 is non-nil before attempting to lowercase/trim it.
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18:20.04Fiskerb
18:23.43Repocollectinator: 03Torhal 07master * 2.0.4-5-g0532103 Core.lua: [+1 commit] Apparently "About" and "Profile" never existed.
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18:51.13nevcairielStanzilla: i think they disabled the quest series for the 502 boots when 5.4 launched =(
18:51.25Stanzillaoh?
18:51.27Stanzillathat sucks
18:51.38nevcairielthe world event ended with the SoO raid, apparently
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18:58.52GnarfozFisker: they're still not nexii, asfdasdasfasf
18:58.54Gnarfoz:F
18:59.15FiskerI know Gnarfoz
18:59.51nevcairielnexuseses?
19:04.27Stanzillanexus
19:04.34Stanzillalong u though
19:06.20Funkeh`nexii, what a horrible word
19:09.44FiskerNexii Funkeh`
19:09.46Fiskerdoes that upset you?
19:11.07Gnarfozor just nexuses
19:12.01znfhey Fisker, what are you fiskering?
19:12.18FiskerWhy won't you leave me alone znf?
19:14.49silentiumI thought I read a blue post somewhere that the ilvl 502 boots quest would stay even after 5.4
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19:17.12silentiumhttp://www.wowhead.com/quest=32816#comments:id=1898947
19:17.55silentium@ Stanzilla
19:18.42Gnarfozso he still hasn't learned how to shave http://minecon.mojang.com/post/65782647575/jeb-stood-for-hours-greeting-his-fans
19:19.04Stanzillanevcairiel:  ^
19:19.20Gnarfoznevcairiel: I think silentium meant you
19:19.21Gnarfozbleh
19:19.41silentiumwhoever needs boots :p
19:19.54StanzillaI don't need no boots yo!
19:22.21nevcairieli see
19:31.12Fiskeryou can choose not to shave Gnarfoz
19:31.16Fiskerjust like i can choose to write nexii
19:32.05Gnarfozsadly, both result in being considered a moron
19:33.35znfwtf
19:33.43znfmy single-target dps on dark shamans HC is 245k :-/
19:33.48znfI'm barely above the tank
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19:35.20Fiskerfondle my glorious beard Gnarfoz
19:35.29Fiskermy glorious ginger beard
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19:54.16Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude * r11544 SiegeOfOrgrimmar/Thok.lua: Thok: Fix some breath bars
20:07.58Semlarznf: you have a brewmaster?
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20:31.56FiskerπŸ’•
20:32.22znfSemlar, yes
20:32.35Semlar^_^
20:32.46znfwe're doing the 3 tanks thingie
20:32.55Semlarjust bring 10 brewmasters
20:33.03Semlarto every fight
20:33.12Semlari think that should work itself out
20:33.41znfI'm not sure if my gear sucks or I suck badly :-(
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20:35.38Semlari don't have a clue what my single target dps is on that fight since there is so much aoe
20:37.10Semlargranted i'm pretty sure having to kill the slimes actually lowers my damage
20:40.16Reponpcscan: 03SLOKnightfall 07master * 5.4.1.3  (4 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Added ability to remove mobs from tracking lists and add them to a ignore list. Added alternate mobid's for Wulon and Cranegnasher.
20:40.16Reponpcscan: 03SLOKnightfall 045.4.1.3 * 5523fd4 /: [new tag] Tagging changes
20:40.33Semlarhunter aoe is pretty bad when they're all spread out
20:44.10Humbedoohindeed :C
20:47.37Repohandynotes_timelesstreasures (experimental): 03rainrider 07master * 3f77a5c  (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
20:47.37Repo3f77a5c: Group settings properly
20:47.37Repo4217a5e: Add options to change the individual chest icons
20:48.45Semlari did about 290k dps on my last dark shaman kill, but i'm not sure if heroic mode impacts your damage
20:48.57znfyay, heroic multistrike trinket
20:49.35Semlari can't imagine anything would impact my dps, as far as i can tell hunters just do all of their damage in any situation
20:50.06Semlarit just isn't as high as some of the other classes
20:50.10znfSemlar, well, we split them up...
20:50.15znfso there goes almost half my dps :P
20:50.22Semlarthat wouldn't make any difference to my damage
20:50.34znfdoes to me :)
20:50.36Semlari'd be with wavebinder and the slimes
20:50.50Semlarin fact i don't think i even hit the other boss
20:51.01znfdon't you have dots?
20:51.06znfas a hunter?
20:51.11Semlarnot really
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20:51.32Semlarit wouldn't be worth spreading serpent sting to the other boss
20:51.34GnarfozStanzilla, nevcairiel, Megalon, wink, sb, other german speakers: http://futurezone.at/digital-life/buegeleisen-infizieren-per-wlan-pcs-mit-malware/33.905.164 :D
20:52.04Semlari did hit him it just wasn't anywhere near as much damage as the other guy, just because we tank them on top of each other
20:52.21Semlarthe warlock of course just did the same damage to both of them
20:52.55Semlar<PROTECTED>
20:53.02Repohandynotes_timelesstreasures (experimental): 03rainrider 04v1.0-beta-2 * a90f256 /: [new tag] Version 1 Beta 2
20:53.36znfoh, come on blizz...
20:53.36Semlari think that might have been the first time i stayed as beast mastery for that fight because normally my pet gets killed
20:53.47znfthey screwed this trinket animation again
20:53.52znfmy toon looks like spazzing
20:55.43Fiskernight everyone but znf
20:55.53Semlarnight fisker
20:56.20znfgo Fisker yourself
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21:17.02Repoarl: 03resa1983 07master * 2.5.7-16-g545b52d / (11 files in 4 directories): [+6 commits] (2 truncated)
21:17.02Repo545b52d: Add "Master Cannon" trainer - Leatherworking
21:17.02Repo1615b75: Add "Master Bier" trainer info - First Aid
21:17.02Repo81c68ed: Add 'Master Marhsall' trainer - Cooking
21:17.02Repo4face92: Add 'Master Chang' trainer - Cooking
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21:39.55bresernebula169: Did you guys figure out the cast bar issues?
22:05.36Stanzillanew ticket open at eqdkp
22:05.44Stanzillawe'll see how that goes *chuckles*
22:12.16Stanzillatackles Torhal
22:19.39Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude * r11545 Core/BossPrototype.lua: BossPrototype: replace various error calls with prints
22:22.19bresernebula169: Really, would you knock it off with the whitespace changes on your branches.  All you're really achieving is making it a pain to merge.
22:23.11Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude * r11546 SiegeOfOrgrimmar/ShaOfPride.lua: ShaOfPride: no berserk on LFR or longer than 10m.
22:23.58Semlarthat's one of the saddest things i've read
22:25.36Semlarit takes us four and a half minutes to kill pride on normal
22:26.23Semlarsome poor soul is out there spending longer than 10 minutes on it in lfr
22:28.18Semlari'm not sure lfr should even exist in its current state
22:32.51winklol
22:34.17wink5:44
22:34.21Repoarl: 03resa1983 07master * 2.5.7-18-g72fcd24 / (3 files in 3 directories): [+2 commits]
22:34.21Repo72fcd24: Update Tailoring vendor in Honor Hold
22:34.21Repoa88f694: Remove 'empties'
22:34.27winkbut somehow it was messy today
22:34.43winkmaybe we were still thinking about why we failed on Norushen heroic before
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22:35.16Stanzillanorushen heroic is such a snoozefest
22:36.58Semlarwe killed it even faster last week but that's because our warlock was doing fucking 380k dps
22:37.34Semlari clearly leveled the wrong class
22:39.37Semlar<PROTECTED>
22:41.16StanzillaSemlar: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/zax8pm7v3rbxbxyi/sum/damageDone/?s=7024&e=7241
22:41.38Semlarwarlocks
22:41.45Stanzillayeh
22:41.52Stanzillaand that is an alt raid
22:41.53Semlari should mention he had worse gear than me
22:41.56Stanzillafacepalm hard
22:41.58Repopitbull4: 03Shefki 07anchors * v4.0.0-beta48-495-gcf37e03  (7 files in 3 directories): [+20 commits] (16 truncated)
22:41.58Repocf37e03: PitBull4.DEBUG should be true, if you don't want Debug then disable loading of Debug.lua.  Specifically modify load.xml.
22:41.58Repo68161c0: Merge remote-tracking branch 'nebula169/master' into anchors
22:41.58Repo5cf2171: typo
22:41.58Repod60dc55: force a GUID update for button unit events, too
22:42.12breserStanzilla: Did those changes that nebula169 make solve the castbar issues?
22:42.17Stanzillabreser: yes
22:42.49Semlarfor some reason i really don't do very well on pride
22:43.06Semlari think the target switching breaks my pet
22:43.17Funkeh`beta48? :x
22:43.27breserStanzilla: Any other outstanding issues with boss/arena frames?
22:43.34Stanzillabreser: no
22:44.21Stanzillabreser: I only had one error today (http://paste2.org/aUMea9n4) and nebula169 said something LuaTexts sometimes needing extra updates on INSTANCE_ENCOUNTER blabla event
22:44.51Stanzillaerror is not boss frames related though
22:45.18Semlaralso Fearinchen has a lower item level than me
22:45.26Semlarso that makes me feel better
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22:45.37Stanzillahah
22:45.40Stanzillayeah like I said, alt raid
22:45.41Semlari'm gonna go delete my hunter
22:45.44breserStanzilla: That doesn't have anything to do with LuaTexts.
22:46.11Stanzillabreser: just relaying what he said and I already said the error is not related
22:46.19Semlarit's really about the same to be fair
22:47.03Semlarfrankly i'm impressed that it's lower because i have zero warforged gear
22:47.19breserStanzilla: To be honest I can't fathom how that code could "run too long"
22:47.23Semlarand they have 3
22:47.53Stanzillabreser: yeah idk either, happened when switching weapon enchants in combat, I think
22:48.30breserStanzilla: Ohh I see why it didn't like that.
22:49.01breserStanzilla: That code iterates over 120k GetSpellInfo()'s if it doesn't have the texture for a weapon enchant cached.
22:49.10breserStanzilla: Pretty much blame Blizzard for not making that info available.
22:49.21Stanzillabetter hardcode that to one texture?
22:49.37breserStanzilla: Well the game shows the weapon icon.
22:49.41Semlararen't those textures pretty well generic
22:49.43Stanzillaor even better, get the icon of the spell "Auto Attack"?
22:49.45breserStanzilla: We want to be able to show the spell icon for the weapon enchant.
22:49.58StanzillaI think what I said was actually pretty clever
22:49.59Stanzillalol
22:49.59breserStanzilla: But the game provides no way to look that up.
22:50.15Stanzillaare you sure?
22:50.25breserStanzilla: The weapon enchant interface sucks.
22:50.52breserStanzilla: We have to tooltip scan to even find out the name of the weapon enchant.
22:50.53Stanzillayeah but I'm sure there is a better way
22:51.30breserStanzilla: It's possible things have changed since I wrote this but I doubt it.
22:51.36Stanzillabreser: GetSpellInfo(6603)
22:51.41Stanzillaalways returns the icon of the current weapon
22:51.44breserStanzilla: I don't have the spell id.
22:51.44Stanzilla3rd return
22:51.58Stanzillawhy not? hard code it?
22:52.03breserStanzilla: Yes I realize that showing the icon of the weapon is easy.
22:52.04Stanzillaauto attack is the same for every char?
22:52.15breserStanzilla: That's not what I'm trying to do.
22:52.26breserStanzilla: I'm trying to show the icon of the enchant.
22:52.30breserStanzilla: Which is more useful.
22:52.47StanzillaI didn't even know enchants had icons
22:52.54znflolwat
22:52.59znfwe killed Shamans AND Nazgrim tonight
22:53.01breserStanzilla: Why wouldn't they, they are spells that you cast.
22:53.54Stanzillawell ok
22:53.57Stanzillathat is different then
22:54.16breserStanzilla: If you've cast the weapon enchants before entering battle that issue will never show up.
22:54.21Stanzillacould still hardcode it though
22:54.22breserStanzilla: We cache data that we've discovered.
22:54.47StanzillaI get that
22:54.49breserStanzilla: The only issue is when you change to an enchant we haven't seen before and have to search for it while you're in combat.
22:54.59Stanzillajust having to scan for shit even if there are only like 5 weapon enchants with icons in the game
22:55.20breserStanzilla: You realize there are more than 5?  I think DK's alone have 5.
22:55.35Stanzillathose are no temp enchants
22:55.37Stanzillathose are permanent
22:55.56breserStanzilla: There's probably more than 5 different fishing bobbers (which are weapon enchants)
22:56.04Stanzillaah right
22:56.11Stanzillaso fishing bobbers + shaman enchants
22:56.44winkmy neighbors are playing squash right now
22:56.59winkor having the kind of sexual intercourse I haven't ever heard of
22:57.04wink*or
22:57.05breserThe options are:
22:57.07breser1) Leave it alone
22:57.19breser2) Show the weapon icon if the spell is unknown in combat.
22:57.29breser3) Always show the weapon icon
22:57.51Stanzilla2) I guess then
22:57.58Stanzillapersonally never used it
22:58.30breserStanzilla: Actually you can turn that feature off.
22:58.50breserStanzilla: There's a global aura option to disable it.
22:59.00breserGuess Weapon Enchant Icon
22:59.12Stanzillawhere is that option
22:59.22breser<PROTECTED>
22:59.30StanzillaI assumed the same but it is not there
23:01.04breser"Use spell icon"
23:01.32Stanzillaah ok
23:01.49Stanzillaok nice
23:02.04Stanzillaso far I only had one visual glitch with the cast bar module but that is not related to boss frames either
23:07.05breserStanzilla: And for the record, rogues have poisons.
23:07.34Stanzillabreser: those are buffs now
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23:09.13breserStanzilla: Hmm ok.
23:16.29Repopitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta48-1-g594a6b5 Modules/ (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Remove the spell icon feature from weapon enchants.  This causes problems when the spell icon isn't cached before entering combat and isn't very useful since almost all temporary weapon enchants have been removed from the game.
23:16.29Repopitbull4: 03Shefki 07anchors * v4.0.0-beta48-496-ga5edec7 Modules/ (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Remove the spell icon feature from weapon enchants.  This causes problems when the spell icon isn't cached before entering combat and isn't very useful since almost all temporary weapon enchants have been removed from the game.
23:16.31breserStanzilla: I just yanked the feature.
23:17.50Stanzillaokay
23:17.52Stanzillafine for me, too
23:18.25znfthings you don't want to hear from our rogue during a fight when the boss is at the critical point: "my dagger broke!"
23:22.08Stanzillanebula169: I forgot, why did you delete the arena spec icon module?
23:24.36breserFor what it's worth I'm reviewing the merge to mainline of boss/arena frames.
23:25.33Stanzillacool
23:26.14breserWhich would be a lot easier if someone didn't make whitespace changes on their branch.
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23:31.49Stanzillacertain someone is sleeping atm :D
23:33.00Gnarfozwth does foxlit's addon do
23:33.12Gnarfozbesides break TEH RULES
23:33.31breserLove how I have to use hash refs to see what a merge actually did with git.  As if I can assume that git actually always merges correctly.
23:33.35Stanzillaload text into macros
23:33.47Stanzillabased on conditions
23:33.51Gnarfozty
23:33.54GnarfozI knew that much
23:33.57Stanzillanp
23:34.06GnarfozHOW DOES IT DO EEET
23:34.25Stanzillait abuses teh fact that you can call GetManagedEnvironment() from a secure realm
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23:35.38GnarfozI don't even know what that does
23:35.42Gnarfoz!api GetManagedEvent
23:35.45Gnarfoz!api GetManagedEnvironment
23:35.48Gnarfozfu
23:35.51Gnarfozbot not her
23:35.52Gnarfoze
23:36.09breserWhat addon is this?
23:36.26Gnarfozhttp://townlong-yak.com/purrmetheus/
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23:36.58Gnarfoz(also on curse/wowi, but I don't expect it to work for very long :P)
23:37.23breserWhat a huge waste of time to write.
23:37.38Gnarfozsome people like the challenge
23:37.38breserThey're just remove GetManagedEnvironment from the whitelist.
23:37.40Stanzillahe likes to break stuff
23:37.50GnarfozGetManagedEnvironment is not in the docs @ wowprogramming... let me guess, I have to find the secureframes docs
23:37.56Stanzillaand write proof of concept stuff
23:38.02Gnarfozyar
23:38.08breserGnarfoz: There's really no reason for our code to ever need it.
23:38.22GnarfozI don't even know what it does
23:38.24breserGnarfoz: Only reason I know what it is is because I've actually taken the time to read all the secure code stuff in the past.
23:38.52Gnarfozthis might surprise you, but just as much as it was pointless to create I now want to know how it works ;P
23:39.22breserGnarfoz: RestrictedInfrastructure.lua
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23:39.45GnarfozGARGH
23:39.55breserGnarfoz: It returns a table that is used to replace the global symbol table for a restricted environment.
23:39.58GnarfozI googled "wowpedia xyz" and ended up on wowwiki again
23:40.17breserBlacklist wowpedia on google.
23:40.58bresererr wowwiki
23:42.04breserI'd guess he's able to setup an environment that has access to things he shouldn't and then use GetManagedEnvironment to gain access to things outside the sandbox.
23:42.43GnarfozI wonder what the dice lua does:D
23:42.46breserLuaTexts actually uses something similar to try and prevent users from being able to break the frames.
23:43.20breserI replace the global symbol table with one that has my functions in it.  Though I don't try and block access to the real global symbol table.
23:43.49StanzillaGnarfoz: .
23:43.50Stanzilla16:41:38 βˆ™ foxlit: essentially, p returns a value and a continuation token. If the value matches something, I want to call it again with the continuation token and compare to next value.
23:43.50Stanzilla16:42:43 βˆ™ foxlit: if all the values are matched, I then want to return the last continuation token. If one of them isn't matched, I want to return nil
23:43.55Stanzillaif that helps :D
23:46.41znfI'm actually impressed that it works flawlessly
23:46.46znftesting spriest routine
23:48.19GnarfozStanzilla: nope, but it explains what the purpose is: intentional obfuscation
23:48.43Gnarfozi.e. it's not relevant to the function of the addon
23:49.37Gnarfozbreser: actually, how do I blacklist wowwiki from my search results? I've googled (...) how to, but I only find weird stuff and stuff that uses google.com/cse (custom search)
23:49.51znfGnarfoz, you use the google blocklist addon for chrome :P
23:49.57Gnarfozuh
23:50.01Stanzillaindeed
23:50.02Gnarfozyeah. not
23:50.04Stanzillaznf is right for once
23:50.12breserThought they changed it so you don't need an addon anymore.
23:50.41znftheir blocklist on the google.com website actually tells you to instal the addon :>
23:52.26breserYeah guess I do have the addon installed.  The only domain I have blocked is wowwiki actually.
23:52.57breserhttps://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/hide-unwanted-results-of-go/
23:53.02znfthouh the addon doesn't work for me
23:53.03breserNo idea how well that works.
23:53.42breserznf: It works for me, the search results show up briefly and then its ays "SOme results were removed..."
23:54.04znfwhat I mean is there's no "block this domain" next to the search result on the results page anymore
23:54.10znfhttps://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/personal-blocklist-by-goo/nolijncfnkgaikbjbdaogikpmpbdcdef?hl=en
23:54.23breserznf: You have to config it in the addon now I guess.
23:55.18Stanzillahttps://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1403224_653890661308608_2115931741_o.jpg
23:55.32breserznf: Yeah when you're on a page click the hand icon for the addon and there's a link to block the domain on the page you're on.
23:55.56znfWAIT WHAT?
23:56.18znf"Available December 2014"
23:56.20znflol, right
23:56.21Stanzillachill
23:56.24Stanzilla100% fake
23:56.33znf"instant 85" lol
23:57.13breserEthereal would actually be kinda cool.
23:57.23Stanzillaya
23:57.24phelpsdemon hunter would be cool
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23:57.27breserBut yeah 2 new races and a new class...
23:57.29breserFake
23:57.34phelpswe need another ranged physical class
23:58.02breserznf: Ohh hell I didn't even notice the instant 85 bit.
23:58.32znfwhat we need is another plate spell user!
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