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10:46.21 | Iroared | hey what time is the wowace website running at? |
10:47.18 | Stanzilla | ...what? |
10:47.41 | quiescens | realtime? |
10:47.44 | quiescens | ideally? |
10:47.49 | haste | faketime |
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11:19.33 | znf | Iroared, half past seven |
11:23.39 | Fisker | maybe bantime sb ? |
11:28.00 | sb | no :( |
11:29.01 | Iroared | znf half past seven AM? |
11:29.43 | Iroared | trying to figure out when the store purchases go out |
11:35.54 | znf | ... |
11:49.37 | nevcairiel | amazon cards are automatically delivered, paypal is manually confirmed once a month at unknown times |
11:50.03 | nebula169 | paypal should be soon |
11:52.44 | nebula169 | (soon being sometime this week) lol |
11:56.25 | Iroared | well so far its been consistent on 5th at around 23:00 |
12:06.42 | nevcairiel | if you're lucky the person doing it is on summer vacation and there is none this month at all :) |
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17:28.21 | quiescens | moo |
17:30.17 | bluipodcow | <PROTECTED> |
17:30.28 | quiescens | go sleep~ |
17:30.41 | bluipodcow | At work :( |
17:30.44 | quiescens | ): |
17:30.50 | quiescens | woek woek |
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18:19.27 | Gnarfoz | OMG |
18:19.51 | Gnarfoz | bathroom door vs. rug vs. foot = ARRRRGH |
18:20.27 | Primer | I don't suppose anyone here would be willing to help me diagnose a problem with my PitBull4_Arrow? I can't figure out why the arrow "goes away" for certain frame groups. |
18:21.45 | Primer | It works perfectly for the group frames |
18:25.15 | Primer | Also, does anyone know how one can track a mob programatically? Like how you can do so in the minimap. |
18:26.15 | znf | So... |
18:26.31 | sb | Gnarfoz: haha! :p |
18:28.04 | Gnarfoz | sb: it's blue :( |
18:28.30 | Gnarfoz | Primer: minimap is pretty much out of bounds, not a lot addons can do with it (intentionally) |
18:28.36 | sb | Gnarfoz: cut it off |
18:28.38 | znf | Thanks for "nothing", blizzard :-/ |
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18:28.46 | znf | "Explanation" of realms, my ass |
18:29.15 | Gnarfoz | what are you ranting about now |
18:29.19 | Primer | Gnarfoz: I presumed that since the minimap did it, that there was an API for it |
18:29.32 | Gnarfoz | Primer: interesting assumption for someone who's been around as long as you :P |
18:29.48 | Primer | Gnarfoz: what you're saying then is that target and focus tracking in the minimap is "special"? |
18:30.01 | Gnarfoz | I'm saying the minimap is pretty much "gtfo" territory |
18:30.16 | Primer | You don't seem to be grasping what I'm saying |
18:30.21 | Gnarfoz | like nameplates are intended to be (it's evil hackery that makes nameplate addons work) |
18:30.25 | znf | I don't think you're grasping what he's saying |
18:30.41 | Fisker | i once murdered a guy |
18:30.43 | Gnarfoz | Blizzard doesn't want addons accessing the information the minimap provides |
18:30.44 | Primer | Gnarfoz: what you're saying then is that target and focus tracking in the minimap is "special"? </repeat> |
18:30.46 | Gnarfoz | is that clearer |
18:31.02 | Primer | I'm going to infer "yes" then |
18:31.05 | Gnarfoz | I have no idea what you mean by "is special". |
18:31.16 | Gnarfoz | the entire minimap is "special" if you want |
18:31.55 | Primer | Perhaps if I word it like this: |
18:32.10 | Primer | In wow, I saw a feature. I want to replicate that feature. What's the API for it? |
18:32.16 | Primer | Presume I didn't say "minimap" at all |
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18:32.31 | Gnarfoz | I can't, since the minimap is... special :D |
18:32.40 | Primer | Then you go: Well, what is the feature? |
18:32.45 | Gnarfoz | dude |
18:32.49 | Primer | And I'd go: mob target and focus tracking |
18:32.50 | Gnarfoz | what's so complicated |
18:33.04 | Primer | Only the way you presumed I knew what you knew |
18:33.05 | Gnarfoz | I have no idea what you even mean by "mob target and focus tracking" |
18:33.06 | Gnarfoz | :D |
18:33.13 | Gnarfoz | since when can you track targets of mobs? |
18:33.27 | Gnarfoz | do you mean the special blips for your target and your focus? |
18:33.44 | Gnarfoz | you can't access the blips (you can replace their BLPs, though) |
18:34.06 | Gnarfoz | unless things have changed over the years, I'd hope someone will correct me if that's the case |
18:34.56 | Gnarfoz | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api ctrl-f minimap - not there |
18:35.05 | Gnarfoz | *not much there |
18:35.15 | Primer | Again, you keep harping on "minimap: |
18:35.17 | Primer | " |
18:35.26 | Primer | Which again, presumes I know what you know |
18:35.34 | Gnarfoz | whaaat |
18:35.59 | Gnarfoz | I'm out, Lei Shen hc explanations seem to come to an end, it's time to die :D |
18:36.28 | Primer | "The fact that you can 'track' _your_ target and focus in the minimap is a 'special feature of the minimap'. There is no API for it." |
18:36.40 | Primer | Is all you had to say |
18:36.55 | Gnarfoz | I said what I said since I understood your question a certain way |
18:36.59 | Gnarfoz | and that's that |
18:37.00 | Primer | indeed |
18:37.33 | Primer | But your basis for understanding was predicated on a presumption that I knew parts of the above statement, which I did not |
18:38.09 | Stanzilla | also pandas |
18:38.21 | Gnarfoz | I just said what came to mind when you asked "can you track mobs, like with the minimap" |
18:38.32 | Gnarfoz | I didn't have an internal discussion first about what you might or might not know |
18:39.03 | Primer | Well, I appreciate your answer nonetheless :) |
18:39.10 | Gnarfoz | I hope it helps |
18:39.33 | Primer | So since that's out...how much do you know about PitBull4? |
18:40.01 | Gnarfoz | you, nebula169 and Stanzilla seem to be using it - that's about it :P |
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18:43.50 | Primer | I don't understand why it's not more popular. It's by far the most configurable raid frame addon I've ever tried. |
18:44.00 | Primer | I guess people just don't want to spend 2 hours configuring it |
18:44.14 | Gnarfoz | because maximum customizability is not the most important thing for most people. |
18:44.21 | Primer | That's the time it took me to redo my config when my SV became corrupted |
18:44.27 | Primer | It is for me |
18:44.33 | Gnarfoz | and that's why it's popular with you |
18:44.42 | Gnarfoz | guess why SUF has a simple config mode |
18:44.48 | Gnarfoz | because most people don't care :D |
18:45.06 | Gnarfoz | in fact, most people care SO little, they don't even use a unitframe addon (: |
18:45.39 | znf | <3 Grid2 |
18:45.49 | znf | think it's by far the most used raid frames addon |
18:46.02 | znf | oh wait, you were talking user frames in general |
18:46.40 | Primer | I for one want to see people's mana |
18:47.01 | Primer | Every screen shot of grid I've ever seen doesn't know mana |
18:47.18 | Primer | Why would you NOT want to know if your healer is OOM but keeping silent about it? |
18:47.23 | Gnarfoz | grid2 the most used? get out |
18:47.36 | Gnarfoz | that's probably vuhdoo or some other crappy "everything configured out of the box" addon |
18:47.54 | Primer | I hear people talking up "elvui" a lot |
18:48.06 | Gnarfoz | typical addon power user illusion - we are a minority :p |
18:48.09 | Primer | I never looked to see if that has a specific unit frame addon |
18:48.17 | Gnarfoz | I think it uses oUF? |
18:48.30 | Gnarfoz | not sure. oUF is a framework after all and would be suited to be used like that |
18:48.57 | Gnarfoz | Primer: Grid has a GridManaBars plugin |
18:48.57 | Primer | WTF...Chromecast on Amazon for $85... |
18:49.33 | Primer | Gnarfoz: Yet I've never seen a screen shot with grid and mana bars |
18:49.36 | Gnarfoz | Grid2 - no idea, it probably has it built-in, seeing how it follows a "include everything" approach |
18:49.50 | Gnarfoz | Primer: I could link you any of mine that show Grid and have a mana user ;-) |
18:50.04 | Primer | May I see one, please? |
18:50.08 | Primer | I'm curious |
18:50.48 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz |
18:51.05 | Fisker | grid1 master race |
18:51.07 | znf | Gnarfoz, Grid is the most used :P |
18:51.17 | znf | vuhdoo is mostly used by healers, though? |
18:51.51 | Primer | Another reason I like PB. My main was a healer for a long time. It told me everything I needed to know |
18:52.15 | Primer | "Oh, you other healer...YOU'RE OOM! Here, have some mana...pops Hymn of Hope..." |
18:52.42 | Fisker | grid1 |
18:52.52 | Gnarfoz | and... of course, the number of people using an extra, non-out of the box module for an addon that's also non-standard is... smaller |
18:53.15 | Gnarfoz | Primer: coming up |
18:53.32 | Stanzilla | healers usually tell me when they need mana |
18:53.44 | Stanzilla | no need to see 10-25 bars going up and down that would only distract me |
18:54.16 | Gnarfoz | (and of course, for raids, there's addons like RaidBuffStatus that just show names of people who're below X%) |
18:54.17 | znf | yeah, I don't really need to see my guildies mana full time :-/ |
18:54.37 | nevcairiel | if you want most used, personally i think most people either use the raid frames that come with their normal UF |
18:54.40 | Gnarfoz | znf: do you have actual numbers |
18:54.49 | nevcairiel | -either |
18:55.00 | Gnarfoz | what nev said, although it's debatabled if that should be included, since it's not a custom addon |
18:55.01 | Primer | Stanzilla: allow me to put that in perspective. I used to lead a 3 hour, once a week, ICC 25 pug. |
18:55.18 | znf | Gnarfoz, in my previous guild more than half the roster was using grid or grid2 |
18:55.19 | Primer | People used to line up for it. Most of the time it would fill with regulars |
18:55.27 | Gnarfoz | znf: wow, 20 people! :D ;-) |
18:55.27 | Primer | But then other times I had to pug |
18:55.40 | znf | Gnarfoz, in this one, it's kind of the same |
18:55.44 | Gnarfoz | another 20 :( |
18:55.52 | Gnarfoz | I assume Grid is pretty high |
18:55.54 | Primer | So yes, you in your dedicated 25 man, sure...I would expect a healer to call out for a mana-providing effect |
18:56.04 | nevcairiel | among people that go hardmode raiding, the statistics will be vastly different then among the rest of the population |
18:56.06 | Gnarfoz | although not sure if it's "without a doubt #1" |
18:56.07 | znf | though a lot of people are starting to switch to ElvUI alone |
18:56.11 | nevcairiel | and the rest is a lot more |
18:56.16 | Primer | But in a 25 man pug I would not. |
18:56.39 | Primer | And yes, I would call out bad healers sitting silently at zero mana half way into a boss fight |
18:56.43 | nevcairiel | also, people that use ElvUI are just brain dead =p |
18:56.51 | Stanzilla | dunno, I'd rather use an addon that tells me when certain people are below a threshold |
18:57.00 | Stanzilla | because of the reason I mentioned before |
18:58.02 | nevcairiel | I have always used raid frames that give me the full information, because i usually not only was a healer, but usually also the healing-leader, so it was kinda my job to keep an eye on them |
18:58.10 | Stanzilla | btw nebula169 with the latest talentmacros update, sometimes macros are not created on login |
18:58.13 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
18:58.23 | nevcairiel | thresholds dont help if you need to instruct people around midfight and shit like that |
18:58.25 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: that is indeed a valid reason |
18:58.28 | nevcairiel | just need more information |
18:58.33 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
18:58.41 | Primer | So Stanzilla, give me a hand with this addon |
18:58.42 | nevcairiel | i tried being a simple healer once |
18:58.53 | Stanzilla | Primer: which? |
18:58.58 | Primer | I can't figure out why the damn arrow goes away on target frames |
18:59.05 | nevcairiel | then the old healing leader left because he was an ass (well he was kicked), and for some reason the job came to me |
18:59.12 | nevcairiel | i must have an aura of leadership or something |
18:59.19 | nevcairiel | it happened every freaking time |
18:59.20 | Stanzilla | Primer: you'd have to ask breser for that, it's vodoo |
18:59.31 | Fisker | what now ? |
18:59.44 | Primer | well, it seems that a PB4 addon must register specific methods |
18:59.44 | Stanzilla | stop plenking, Fisker |
19:00.06 | Fisker | plenking? |
19:00.33 | nevcairiel | anyway, ima go watch another ep of leverage |
19:03.53 | Fisker | oh ok nevcairiel |
19:04.33 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: using spaces around punctuation, where none belongs |
19:05.36 | Fisker | i thought it was something cool like planking |
19:06.56 | Gnarfoz | Primer: better late than never http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/mop/gridmanabars.jpg (Jadzia has ~75% mana) |
19:07.15 | Stanzilla | dat frame/chat overlap, Gnarfoz |
19:07.16 | Stanzilla | WHY |
19:07.28 | Gnarfoz | because the chat frames suck? |
19:07.34 | Gnarfoz | if I make it smaller, I lose a row of text |
19:07.53 | Gnarfoz | and I don't want to move the UF higher just so it doesn't overlap the chat box background |
19:07.56 | Gnarfoz | (waste of space) |
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19:08.33 | Gnarfoz | (also this UI has been broken ever since 4.0 :D I only patched it up since then. I should re-do it, but then, I should do a lot of things.) |
19:08.44 | Gnarfoz | PROcrastination |
19:08.49 | Stanzilla | why? looks fine apart from that |
19:08.59 | Stanzilla | buttons are bit funky but meh |
19:09.11 | znf | I cba to fix my ui, either :-( |
19:09.13 | Stanzilla | and spacing in general |
19:09.34 | Primer | So many people make fun of my UI |
19:09.36 | Primer | but it works for me |
19:10.31 | znf | Primer, yours is horrible |
19:10.53 | Primer | see? |
19:12.39 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: spacing *should* be simmetrical for most things, or at least aligned from vertical/horizontal center - what's not "in place"? |
19:13.09 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: GraphPaper + "type in coords" for addons that allow it (which are not many... suf, bt4...) |
19:13.11 | Fisker | i wonder if anyone made an addon like the gui editors on VS |
19:13.13 | Fisker | that would be sick |
19:13.37 | Gnarfoz | Primer: horrible ui, sorry! :D welcome to the club of "it works, meh" ;) |
19:14.32 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: heh, actionbars look confusing because there's of course full rows of buttons from the top row to the bottom row, just not all spots in use |
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19:20.40 | Gnarfoz | Grid <-> chat frame spacing looks odd because of a) tabs (which I wanted to use, but don't really, since their behaviour sucks) and b) chat input box that's not visible but would be in that space |
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19:40.23 | Repo | pitbull4_arrow: 03barfolomeu * r8 Description.txt: Add video demonstating the addon. |
19:41.14 | Repo | pitbull4_arrow: 03barfolomeu * r9 (2 files in 1 directory): Fix EOL characters. |
19:41.36 | Repo | pitbull4_arrow: 03barfolomeu * r10 PitBull4_Arrow.toc: Fix EOL characters. |
19:55.36 | Repo | libdogtag-3-0: 03parnic * r260 Events.lua: LibDogTag-3.0: |
19:55.36 | Repo | - Submitted Cybeloras's fix for "script ran too long" errors. (ticket #23) |
19:56.18 | Gnarfoz | rages |
19:56.31 | Humbedooh | rawrs |
19:56.55 | Primer | eats |
19:57.21 | Megalon | reanacts waterloo |
19:57.21 | Primer | These Trader Joe's curry simmer sauces are awesome |
19:57.30 | Gnarfoz | Lei Shen HC is annoying |
19:57.36 | Primer | especially this green curry one |
19:57.36 | Stanzilla | indeed |
20:01.51 | Gnarfoz | why am I eating |
20:01.58 | Gnarfoz | STAAHP |
20:02.30 | Gnarfoz | Primer: aren't wowace svn repos set to have eol-style:native anyway? |
20:05.09 | Primer | All I know is the files locally were in DOS format |
20:05.31 | Primer | And that's a pet peeve of mine |
20:07.22 | Repo | pitbull4_arrow: 03barfolomeu * r11 (2 files in 1 directory): |
20:07.22 | Repo | Add checks to ensure child elements exist before attempting to delete them. Not sure how code is getting here without these child elements though. |
20:07.48 | Repo | pitbull4_arrow: 03barfolomeu * r12 PitBull4_Arrow.toc: Sigh...always forgetting to bump the version... |
20:08.04 | Repo | pitbull4_arrow: 03barfolomeu 04vv4.0.0-5.3.0.003-alpha * r13 : Tagging as vv4.0.0-5.3.0.003-alpha |
20:08.34 | Primer | All I need to figure out is how all the PB4 "magic" happens |
20:08.51 | Primer | I'm not using said magic for the onupdate though |
20:08.57 | znf | magic! |
20:09.04 | Primer | that part seems to work well enough |
20:09.56 | Gnarfoz | Primer: should be a matter of configuring your svn client the way you like. it creates the files locally, it puts the file endings in |
20:10.03 | Gnarfoz | (line endings) |
20:10.22 | Primer | well, the files were imported with DOS EOLs |
20:10.31 | Gnarfoz | like I said |
20:10.40 | Gnarfoz | well, rather |
20:10.44 | Gnarfoz | what's your svn client set to do? |
20:11.04 | Primer | presumably windows EOLs on windows, despite being run via cygwin |
20:11.10 | Gnarfoz | I don't know if it svn stores some kind of preference, in case the client doesn't have one |
20:11.18 | Gnarfoz | svn cli? |
20:11.22 | Primer | aye |
20:11.36 | Gnarfoz | I see |
20:11.36 | Primer | I'm currently at work, where I only have Linux |
20:11.46 | Primer | but the initial import was done at home on windows |
20:11.50 | Gnarfoz | don't want a GUI client? |
20:11.59 | Gnarfoz | hm, so your linux svn cli client checked them out |
20:12.08 | Gnarfoz | and had crlf line endings? |
20:12.20 | Gnarfoz | that's... weird |
20:12.24 | Primer | no...I use rsync to sync addons between home and work |
20:12.29 | Gnarfoz | ugh :D |
20:12.30 | Gnarfoz | ok |
20:12.36 | Primer | yeah, it's complicated :) |
20:13.05 | Primer | hrmm, I really should local that one function called onupdate... |
20:13.13 | Primer | OnUpdate, even |
20:18.45 | breser | Gnarfoz: SVN doesn't touch line endings unless you tell it to. |
20:18.54 | breser | Gnarfoz: By setting svn:eol-style |
20:18.55 | Gnarfoz | so what does that mean for primer? |
20:19.05 | Primer | it's no big deal |
20:19.11 | Gnarfoz | he should set svn:eol-style on everything? |
20:19.12 | Primer | I already took care of it with dos2unix |
20:19.22 | Primer | there was no svn:eol-style set anyhow |
20:19.29 | breser | Gnarfoz: Pretty much yes, that's why we have auto-props. |
20:19.30 | Gnarfoz | of course, but it's a matter of knowing for the future :D |
20:19.30 | Primer | I prefer to not set that |
20:19.46 | Primer | breser: I'm told you know PB4 magic |
20:19.59 | breser | Though it's not going to help him much if he moves wc's between windows and *nix systems. |
20:20.22 | breser | Primer: Depends on what the magic you're wondering about is. |
20:20.26 | Primer | i.e. invocations of module-defined methods by PB4 |
20:20.37 | Primer | breser: I'm still working on that arrow addon |
20:20.49 | Primer | I found that it doesn't work very consistently for target frames |
20:21.06 | breser | target of target or just target |
20:21.09 | Primer | and targettarget and targettargettarget and focus |
20:21.17 | breser | Those are wacky frames. |
20:21.19 | Primer | and focus target |
20:21.39 | breser | We don't get events for them so we have to poll. |
20:21.47 | Primer | What's happening is that I can make the arrow appear when I toggle the "enable" for those frames |
20:22.03 | Primer | but it goes away if I switch targets |
20:22.16 | Primer | even if the other target would be eligible for the arrow, i.e. another group member |
20:22.16 | breser | That is odd. |
20:22.45 | breser | Is this consistently broken? |
20:22.53 | Primer | Yes |
20:23.02 | breser | I'll take a look later tonight then. |
20:23.30 | Primer | Is there any sort of documentation for PB4 modules? |
20:23.41 | Primer | I wonder if I just didn't implement something |
20:24.02 | breser | http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4/pages/api/ |
20:24.31 | Primer | All I implemented was :OnEnable, :ClearFrame (which I've yet to see called), :UpdateFrame |
20:24.50 | Primer | oh wow, 2 days ago even |
20:24.54 | breser | Primer: ClearFrame will be called when frames are torn down or if the addon calls it. |
20:25.17 | breser | Primer: I think that date is bogus. |
20:26.05 | Primer | awww |
20:26.12 | Primer | and here I thought ckknight was still active... |
20:26.12 | breser | Primer: Specifically I think ckknight eded stuff directly through the db sometimes. |
20:26.19 | breser | Primer: edited* |
20:26.28 | breser | Primer: And put weird dates on them. |
20:27.07 | breser | Primer: Singleton frames don't get torn down so you won't see ClearFrame called much if you don't use it. |
20:27.29 | breser | Primer: Group frames get torn down an a timer if they haven't been in use for a while. |
20:29.03 | breser | Primer: There's the possibility here that UpdateFrame is being called before the API's are returning the correct value of the new target. |
20:29.42 | breser | Primer: WoW's event system sometimes delivers events before the APIs that query the related things show the change. |
20:29.47 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
20:29.50 | Primer | Lovely |
20:29.56 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
20:30.04 | Fisker | will we get cross-region real id chat with the launcher? |
20:30.15 | Stanzilla | nope |
20:30.21 | Primer | breser: I can tell you that the addon seems to work perfectly for group frames. |
20:30.24 | Fisker | fuck blizzard |
20:30.25 | Fisker | why not? |
20:30.27 | breser | Primer: If that's the case sometimes you have to add a flag in the event and then process in OnUpdate. |
20:30.29 | Fisker | what if i have us account? |
20:30.46 | breser | Primer: However, we should be dealing with those cases for you. |
20:30.49 | Fisker | (then i can login as americas) |
20:31.06 | Stanzilla | Fisker: well atm no chat is implemented (or exposed to users) at all so maaaaybe it will happen when you have both us and eu accounts active |
20:31.12 | Stanzilla | but you have a dropdown at every game |
20:31.14 | Stanzilla | for the accounts |
20:31.22 | Stanzilla | so I guess it will use the one selected there |
20:31.35 | Primer | breser: Right. In all the other modules I've looked at it seems that PB4 handles all that type of stuff. |
20:32.05 | Primer | I also probably didn't pick the best PB4 module as an example for this. I picked ShadowOrbs. |
20:32.15 | breser | At least we try to hdie some of the gory details of different frames from the modules. |
20:33.11 | Primer | In case you want to look at the code without downloading the entire addon, I have an svnweb for it: http://ceregatti.org/svnweb/index.cgi/pitbull4_arrow/view/trunk/Arrow.lua |
20:33.32 | breser | I'll just check itout. |
20:33.40 | Gnarfoz | any hunter with lei shen hc experience? does disengage really just not do anything? |
20:34.02 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: for what? |
20:34.04 | Stanzilla | or in general? |
20:34.07 | Gnarfoz | ah sorry |
20:34.10 | Gnarfoz | against helm of command |
20:34.24 | Gnarfoz | our hunter says he's just being pushed away, even while in the air from disengage |
20:35.02 | Primer | I was thinking of moving the arrow code and the config options out of this file so that it only contains the module:methods(), for simplicity |
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20:35.33 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: he's right though |
20:35.52 | Stanzilla | you fly like 1m with the glyph |
20:36.26 | znf | 3 yards* |
20:36.32 | Gnarfoz | that'd be 1y |
20:37.25 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: yeah, I'm not saying he's lying, just saying he might be a moron :D |
20:37.30 | Gnarfoz | you never know ;) |
20:37.34 | Stanzilla | indeed! |
20:37.48 | Gnarfoz | znf: 1 y = 1 m, was what I was trying to say, btw |
20:37.53 | Gnarfoz | at least in WoW, lulz |
20:38.02 | znf | Gnarfoz, figured |
20:38.16 | Gnarfoz | Blizzard measurement system |
20:38.22 | Stanzilla | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQxmE2QuWYM |
20:38.23 | Gnarfoz | still better than US |
20:38.24 | Repo | pitbull4_arrow: 03barfolomeu * r14 (3 files in 1 directory): Fix non-local function. |
20:38.25 | Stanzilla | chill out music |
20:38.35 | Repo | pitbull4_arrow: 03barfolomeu 04vv4.0.0-5.3.0.004-alpha * r15 : Tagging as vv4.0.0-5.3.0.004-alpha |
20:38.36 | Gnarfoz | I'd rather have this boss chilling himself out... to death |
20:38.59 | Gnarfoz | barely surviving intermission #1 so far |
20:39.18 | Stanzilla | good luck then |
20:39.21 | Gnarfoz | anyway, out of time, I hope we can reproduce the 11/13 kill next ID |
20:39.28 | Gnarfoz | s/kill/clear/ |
20:39.34 | Stanzilla | do you have a warrior and/or shaman? |
20:39.41 | Stanzilla | or rogue? |
20:40.12 | Gnarfoz | warrior tank/crappy DD; shaman heal (or ele, enh, but that's rather situational); rogue. |
20:40.17 | Gnarfoz | i.e. particularily all 3 |
20:40.33 | Stanzilla | you can mass spell reflect chain lightning |
20:40.45 | Stanzilla | and you can smokebomb the swirly thingy casts |
20:41.00 | Stanzilla | and something with grounding totem, too |
20:41.37 | Gnarfoz | ok, he's not in range for diffusion chain, he's tanking the boss |
20:41.51 | Gnarfoz | smoke bomb against bouncing bolts? how does that work? |
20:41.58 | Stanzilla | smoke on the boss |
20:42.09 | Gnarfoz | interesting |
20:42.14 | Stanzilla | but that's not for intermission I guess |
20:44.00 | znf | wait, that works in normal mode, too? |
20:45.49 | Stanzilla | yes |
20:47.43 | Gnarfoz | ok, we're doing bouncing bolts last, so that either doesn't get cast, or it is cast from the previous corner's timer -- while we're moving him |
20:47.46 | Gnarfoz | sad |
20:47.48 | Gnarfoz | :D |
20:47.55 | Fisker | this is fun |
20:47.56 | Gnarfoz | sounds like a nice use for sb |
20:48.03 | Fisker | main tank fails 2x bouncing bolts on intermission |
20:48.13 | Gnarfoz | heh |
20:48.25 | Fisker | still has the balls to complain over bouncing bolts immediately thereafter (even though we actually got them) |
20:48.26 | Gnarfoz | someone suggested putting a tank alone in one quarter... |
20:48.36 | Gnarfoz | that didn't work out well |
21:00.23 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: if you find out about grounding totem (what you can block with it), let me know |
21:00.41 | Stanzilla | will do |
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21:11.20 | Gnarfoz | blergh |
21:11.35 | Gnarfoz | what's the for x in {list} do y syntax in lua again |
21:11.37 | Gnarfoz | I forget |
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21:21.13 | Gnarfoz | could wowhead stop being dicks and STOP LOADING NEW ADS |
21:21.15 | Gnarfoz | fuckers |
21:25.14 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: Depends on the type of table; dictionary or array. |
21:26.43 | Gnarfoz | I used quests={123,123,123,123} for id = 1, #quests do somethingwith(quests[id]) end |
21:26.51 | Gnarfoz | (that's... dictionary?) |
21:26.57 | Torhal | Array. |
21:27.00 | Gnarfoz | blergh |
21:27.10 | Torhal | But that's proper syntax. |
21:28.37 | Gnarfoz | hmmm, now I'm curious: is this "array" is really just a dictionary that defaults the value of the keys to true and does some metatable magic to access the name of the key instead of the value? or... something? |
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21:29.24 | Gnarfoz | (seeing that arrays don't really exist as a datatype in Lua (which might even be wrong - IIRC there's just lists, though?)) |
21:35.10 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: Tables have two sections internally. |
21:36.43 | Gnarfoz | so internally every table is a dictionary? |
21:38.46 | Torhal | It's a bit deeper than that, but without reference I couldn't give exacts. |
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