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01:47.11Primernebula169: true, but now we PB4 users have more options
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01:53.35znf<Stanzilla> znf sb Shadow Word: Death damage is now increased by 80% when used on enemies that have less then 20% health, but the cooldown is no longer reset if the target does not die.
01:53.36znfgay
02:03.48pompy1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK6zhpuBZVo&feature=inp-lt-lol-us The Killers performing live.
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03:08.06Primerreally pissed that /bb got subverted by some other addon
03:13.41oscarucbwhich?
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03:24.25quiescensyours!
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03:35.18Stanzillaznf: it's a buff though
03:35.29EridiusStanzilla: I should get emails on ticket comments, but wowace/curseforge's email system is so obtuse that I can't guarantee it. Why?
03:35.50StanzillaEridius: I commented on your pb ticket and was wondering if you saw it
03:36.42EridiusStanzilla: looks like no, I didn't get an email. strange
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03:38.50EridiusStanzilla: hmm, malygos has combo points? I totally don't remember that, although wowpedia confirms it
03:39.08nebula169it does, so does the daily outside of nexus
03:39.25EridiusStanzilla: so I guess always load combo points mod (unfortunately), and rip out the short-circuit at the top, but update the UpdateFrame call to also go ahead if you're in a vehicle?
03:39.38Eridiuseven though that's kind of unfortunate that entering a vehicle would cause combo points to then appear
03:39.41nebula169also re: wowace's email system, i'm pretty sure i've never gotten an email in the past five years
03:39.58Eridiusor maybe if you're in a vehicle it still hides unless you have 1+ combo points
03:40.48StanzillaI wonder if it is worth having a worse implementation just for those old things
03:41.01Eridiuswhat do you mean?
03:41.10nebula169not really "worse"
03:41.48Stanzillaokay
03:41.51Stanzillanot optimal then
03:43.23Stanzillawell blizzard could always do it again so I guess we have to take care of it
03:43.38nebula169it's pretty trivial to check on events and change something
03:44.05nebula169the layout system does a tonne of work every frame
03:44.14Stanzillayeah but wouldn't checking for combopoints being 1+ solve having the background hanging there anyway?
03:44.21Stanzillabecause it would never show when you don't have some
03:44.40EridiusStanzilla: I'm tempted to just always check for combo points and show it regardless if you have 1+, without even checking for vehicle UI
03:44.46Stanzillayes
03:45.04Stanzillathat's what I meant
03:45.08nebula169just so long as you hide it when exiting the vehicle
03:45.42Eridiusnebula169: well presumably you'll lose combo points then, no?
03:45.46nebula169oh, you mean only show it when you have 1+
03:45.49Eridiusyeah
03:45.56Eridiusso every time you hit 0 it would disappear again while in the vehicle
03:46.03Eridiusnot ideal, but it's old content and it's better than nothing
03:46.18nebula169in my head it translated to showing the bg after getting a combo point and leaving it
03:56.11EridiusStanzilla: ok I updated the patch at http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4/tickets/1048-patch-only-enable-combo-points-when-appropriate/
03:56.28EridiusI tested to make sure the indicator was still gone from non-combopoint classes. I did not test to verify that it works on Malygos, but it should
03:56.57Stanzillaalright, just have to see if breser is ok with it now
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04:53.48breserFine with me I'll apply it.
04:54.01breserIt's not ideal but at this point not really important.
04:55.14Repopitbull4: 03Shefki 07anchors * v4.0.0-beta8-445-g3af3d29 Modules/ComboPoints/ComboPoints.lua: [+1 commit] Disable ComboPoints module when appropriate
04:55.15Repopitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta46-4-g596aa5a Modules/ComboPoints/ComboPoints.lua: [+1 commit] Disable ComboPoints module when appropriate
04:56.06breserThe only alternative I can see is to try to find some way to detect that a vehicle will have combo points which I'm not sure that you can do or make the module load when entering Malygos.
04:56.51breserI'm not inclined the accept the later since I don't like the idea of having the future maintenance if they add more vehicles with combo points, and some of them may be outside instances.
04:57.27breserActually I'm not sure PB4 has entering instance loading right now.  I can't remember if I added that or not.  I know I had PB4 modules to specific fights.
04:58.12breserMust not have since I don't see any load on demand args for my Jaraxus and Anubarak modules.
05:03.15Stanzillaoh breser what do you think about nebula169's share config module?
05:03.22PrimerStanzilla: want to see the addon live?
05:03.23Stanzillaship with mainline?
05:03.28StanzillaPrimer: yes
05:03.29Primerhttp://twitch.tv/barfolomeu
05:04.16Stanzillawatching
05:04.20breserStanzilla: I'm not ready to include it yet.  I looked at it briefly but as I already discussed with nebula169 there are probably some improvements to make.
05:04.28PrimerI'll walk around so you can see
05:04.32Stanzillabreser: oh ok
05:04.51breserStanzilla: In particular I think we can chunk the data so we can avoid the game freezing as you load stuff.
05:05.16breserStanzilla: But doing that takes format changes that we should change before we give it to the masses.
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05:05.50StanzillaPrimer: what's that one huge arrow there
05:06.01Stanzillagroup 4
05:06.01Stanzillatop
05:06.16Stanzillaah ok
05:06.23Stanzillabreser: alright
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05:06.37PrimerStanzilla: you listening?
05:06.41Stanzillayes
05:06.42PrimerI'm talking to you
05:06.43Primerok
05:06.48Primertoggled DirectionArrow off
05:07.20breserYou guys back to playing around with the arrow modules?
05:07.43quiescensyou broked it!
05:09.18Stanzillabreser: primer made a new one
05:13.19Stanzillasounds like you're having fun there :D
05:13.28Stanzillaand looks like the addon works as expected
05:14.33StanzillaI wish I had a decent connection to stream at a HD res
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05:19.52Stanzillathat did not go so well, haha :D
05:20.18PrimerStanzilla: sorry I can't stream at multiple rates
05:20.21PrimerI haven't figured that out
05:20.31Primerbut yeah, look at the code. It's minimal
05:20.34Stanzillamy download is fine
05:20.37Primerthere's nothing fancy about it
05:20.47Primerit reuses the minimap arrow
05:22.05breserdecides to take a look.
05:22.35StanzillaI would leave it enabled for dead people because battle rez
05:23.25Primerexactly
05:23.37Primerthat's one of the main reasons I wrote DirectionArrow in the first place
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05:33.59breserPrimer: I'm watching...  Sorta.
05:34.10PrimerI left
05:34.20Primer2 wipes on Lei Shen in LFR is too much
05:34.31breserYeah I just heard you talking about if anyone was watching.
05:34.47PrimerMy daughter was asking :)
05:35.03Primershe likes to talk over the stream
05:35.08breserAhh
05:35.21PrimerAnyhow, I wasn't aware of any PB4 arrow addon
05:35.22breserYou know I have absolutely no idea where you are.
05:35.41breserNo idea if he ever released it.
05:35.49PrimerI started writing this one last night
05:36.08Primerthe arrow code is from my other addon, DirectionArrow, so I already had the hard part written
05:36.16breser*nod*
05:36.21Primerhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4_arrow/
05:36.26Primerit's extremely simple, IMO
05:37.25breserI have to say sorta watching that makes me want to play but I really just don't have the time to do it anymore.
05:37.49Primerhttp://ceregatti.org/svnweb/index.cgi/pitbull4_arrow/view/trunk/Arrow.lua
05:37.55Primerthat's all the code right there
05:39.08PrimerI saw a few lua errors from it in a different session from before. I think I need to fix how the arrow container should be handled for the frames with the player unit
05:39.24Primeras well as anything that can't be tracked, like an enemy player
05:39.50PrimerNot sure exactly what is causing the error I saw
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07:40.18Fiskerman Funkeh`
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08:42.35Fiskeropen your eyes Stanzilla
08:50.15Stanzillasup Fisker
08:50.34Fiskernothin'
09:03.12Stanzillamy head is jungle, Fisker
09:03.18Fiskercool
09:03.34Stanzillaae ven
09:05.05Fiskerwhat does that mean?
09:05.26Stanzilla*a even
09:05.28Stanzillaa jungle
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10:08.04quiescensi think stanzilla lost it
10:09.34nevcairieli think he never got any
10:11.26Fiskeri want to upgrade to a dedicated server nevcairiel
10:11.28Fiskerbut money
10:11.48nevcairieli like having a dedicated server
10:14.02Fiskerme too
10:18.47winkis too lazy and cheap to migrate away from a handful of vservers
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12:28.52winkman DK are still facerollers
12:29.13winkmy worst-equipped 85 and he's mowing through jade forest
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12:37.16Fiskerlets punch Elkano in the face
12:37.27Fiskerare you with me Stanzilla ?
12:37.45Elkanoyou wouldn't hit a guy earing glasses, would you?
12:37.50Elkano+w
12:38.04Fiskerthat depends Elkano
12:38.09Fiskerare they google glass glasses?
12:39.48Elkanohell no...
12:40.29Fiskerthen i might as well punch you
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12:58.58quiescenso.o
12:59.06quiescenssomeone broked nevcairiel
12:59.20nevcairielnah just had to change my irc client settings a bit
13:01.27quiescensoh okay
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13:55.55znfStanzilla, so wait
13:56.08znfthey made haste suddenly not attractive anymore for RPPM?
13:56.11znfthis is gay :-/
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14:04.13Fiskerumad znf ?
14:08.32Fiskerare we back to hating haste again?
14:08.35Fiskerpoor haste
14:08.52hasteI'm always loved
14:11.19Megalonhey hey
14:11.55FiskerMegalon
14:13.48bluspacecow*fondles haste*
14:14.06hastesee?
14:14.40Fiskerfondling != loving
14:14.42hastethought I had turned off 4G on my phone, but apparently not
14:14.50hasteyes it is Fisker!
14:14.54Fiskeroh ok
14:15.08Fiskergoes out and starts fondling women on the street
14:15.18Fiskerit's just love, you can't stop me
14:16.25haste:3
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14:23.02Fiskerhey haste
14:23.04Fiskernoone can stop me
14:23.08Fiskernot even znf
14:30.35bluspacecow*gasp*
14:30.41bluspacecowfisker is unstoppable!
14:31.54Fiskeroh oh bluspacecow
14:31.59Fiskeri'm steering in your direction now
14:32.13bluspacecoweeek!
14:32.20bluspacecow*runs*
14:40.03Fiskeryou cannot outrun me bluspacecow
14:40.07Fiskeri am outrunnable
14:40.15Fiskerwait
14:40.18Fiskerunoutrunabble
14:40.22bluspacecow:_:
15:02.56Stanzillaznf: no, just less OP
15:15.23Megalonbut less OP equals less FUN, Stanzilla
15:15.52bluspacecow*noms Stanzilla*
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15:31.46znfStanzilla, so shitty :(
15:32.02Stanzillaznf: yes, everything is shitty
15:33.59Stanzillait's so fucking hot, I'm melting
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15:44.07quiescenso.o
15:44.20quiescensgivs blu a cookie
15:52.47Fiskermore fun Megalon
16:04.38znfStanzilla, yeah... I was forced to go out of the hotel today...
16:19.25Fiskeri once went out of your hotel
16:25.10znfFisker, cool.
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19:40.11StanzillaRAIN
19:40.12StanzillaFINALLY
19:40.22nevcairielits really quite cool outside here
19:40.32nevcairieli went out to get some food and was surprised how good it was
19:40.44nevcairielnow i opened all the windows!
19:40.52nevcairielstill warm inside
19:40.58StanzillaI just hope the rain here has the same effect
19:43.24StanzillaFisker: did you update your google services to get the device manager yet?
19:46.51Stanzillaoh well, not really the full app, guess nvm then
20:07.28Fiskeryes Stanzilla
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21:09.20Stanzillasb Gnarfoz [22:05:17][I] <AFK>[Activision-Alleria]: was hat der für fehichkiten
21:09.35GnarfozStanzilla: not bad
21:09.42Stanzillaye
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21:32.12winkhttp://battlebards.libsyn.com/battle-bards-episode-6-wild-star-with-jeff-kurtenacker
21:32.20winkreally can't wait for WildStar. awesome music
21:42.46HatrazWhen is WildStar coming out?
21:43.19nevcairiellast news was something like "second half of 2013"
21:43.29nevcairielif thats still true, i dont know
21:46.07nevcairielmaybe ready for holidays
21:48.02nevcairieli hope it turns out fun
22:03.01TorhalHas GW2-style combat and a much better AddOn system than WoW.
22:04.12Gnarfozthat'd be a first
22:04.59TorhalThey designed it with the attitude that WoW is so successful largely due to AddOns.
22:05.10TorhalThere's also no taint system. If you can't do it, they can't either.
22:06.55Gnarfoznot sure how that makes it "much better" than WoW's, seeing that WoW before 2.0 also had no taint system
22:07.09TorhalWoW before 2.0 was also bottable with AddOns.
22:07.15TorhalWildstar isn't.
22:07.27Gnarfozif you say so
22:07.30TorhalI do.
22:07.33Gnarfozthat's nice
22:07.43TorhalYou're weird. :P
22:08.07Gnarfozjust trying not to flame you for making absolutist stamements about something that hasn't even been released
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22:08.41TorhalI've worked with it.
22:08.44Gnarfozand trying your utmost to make WoW's addon system seem like shit, when it's the best around so far
22:08.47TorhalBeta account and all that.
22:09.14TorhalWoW's system IS shit. It's tacked on as they need stuff and fuck the non-Blizzard users of it.
22:09.40TorhalWildstar's is designed from the ground up to be easy to use, not stomp on the global namespace, etc.
22:10.19TorhalAnyway, off to play games.
22:10.23Gnarfozhave fun
22:56.59Caleb|Torhal don't think you are supposed to talk about being in the beta, NDA and whatnot :P
22:57.40TorhalDidn't give any actual info!
23:02.55nebula169_i'm sad i'm not in the wildstar beta
23:03.07ShirikI'm more sad I'm not in the wildstar beta
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