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00:29.58Repoarl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.4.8-8-gf15cc3a Scanner.lua: [+2 commits]
00:30.00Repof15cc3a: Merge branch 'staggered_scanner'
00:30.02Repo73844dd: Coroutines!
01:00.17Repoarl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.4.8-9-ga30e390 Scanner.lua: [+1 commit] MOAR coroutines.
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01:47.58MysticalOSarl, pssht. that should say npcscan :p
01:59.01MysticalOS:o http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/9377569288
02:02.51GnarfozMysticalOS: That's crazy! You know!
02:03.09Gnarfoz(I hope you read that in Christopher Walken's voice)
02:04.48Gnarfozalso, I'm inclined to agree with that Phine guy... should I be? if disabledInOptions or disabledSomwhereElse or disabledForFun then hide() end should be just as good as bitmasks, but far more readable, shouldn't it?
02:08.57TorhalMysticalOS: I still need to figure out what to do with NPCScan. The Python tools aren't working due to the required libs being esoteric and apparently not compiling/installing correctly.
02:23.36Gnarfoz:(
02:23.50Gnarfozis Saiket not around anymore? (if so, I missed that)
02:24.10quiescenswhat is a saiket?
02:24.23Gnarfoz@project npcscan
02:24.23RepoGnarfoz: [WoW] _NPCScan (Updated Oct 13, 2012 at 8:10 UTC) - https://www.wowace.com/addons/npcscan/
02:24.31Gnarfozmeh, doesn't list authors! :D
02:24.37Gnarfoz(well, it never did)
02:24.54Gnarfozohhh, "former author", I see
02:24.56quiescensoh
02:25.32MysticalOSThat's torhal's new project now
02:25.54Gnarfozdelete it an improve SilverDragon moar?! :D
02:26.04TorhalNein.
02:26.10GnarfozSchade. :(
02:26.25Gnarfoz(well, they are a bit different from each other.)
02:26.31Kemayo'tis true.
02:26.44TorhalJust a wee bit :)
02:27.00GnarfozI mostly meant from a "I want a rare scanning addon!" POV
02:27.20KemayoNPCScan is waaaaay more focused on the "I am hunting the achievement rares" side of things.
02:27.24MysticalOSi don't use npcscan anyways, i just want an updated overlay to use with Silverdragon
02:27.52GnarfozMysticalOS: that'd be neat - the HandyNotes integration is ok-ish but not really good with multiple locations
02:27.53MysticalOSbecause the handynotes method of seeing em on map just, doesn't work for me
02:28.19GnarfozAlani, Sha of Fear, mobs synced from other players who use different locale clients... urgh :D
02:28.35Gnarfozmy map is kind of cluttered with SD icons ^^
02:29.01MysticalOSpretty sure i edit out all locations on alani on mine before i import, for that reason. not like you need to know where he is. he's ALWAYS up
02:29.12KemayoWell, okay, the huge difference is that I *really* don't want to do anything by hand, and I've not yet felt motivated to write something to automatically generate those overlays.
02:29.48MysticalOSjust create overly complicated python scripts that require compiling storm lib and a bunch of other shit
02:29.56TorhalIt's insane.
02:30.07MysticalOSi know, i downloaded it once to see if i could do it myself
02:30.12MysticalOSand it quickly turned into a "FUCK THIS"
02:30.12TorhalStormLib, lupa, beautifulsoup, a bunch of other shit.
02:30.44MysticalOSbeautifulsoup? :o
02:30.47Torhalafter I downloaded PyV8 from that github page you showed me, my latest issue is "Cannot instantiate Lua environment" with a fucking c++ line number.
02:31.08TorhalSo I just need to buckle down and see what he's TRYING to do and do it leaner.
02:31.26MysticalOSi also miss SD's old luasocket
02:31.33MysticalOShe changed it all to python on me
02:31.38TorhalSD?
02:31.42MysticalOSsilverdragon
02:31.52KemayoMost of it is just doing the same stuff as SilverDragon's scripts... fetching mob data from sites.
02:32.02TorhalAah
02:32.08GnarfozI'd go for some beautiful soup
02:32.13TorhalI can do Python. Not a problem.
02:32.38MysticalOSso you are having trouble with lua? that's one thing i got working well on OS X, that and lua socket. long as you install 5.1, 5.2 shits itself
02:32.39TorhalWhat's killing me is the 6 or so libs that are NON-standard and must be compiled and the fact that the damn thing NEEDS six libs.
02:32.45Gnarfozrandom poll: what time is it for you guys?
02:32.53MysticalOS10:32PM
02:32.57KemayoWell, yes, thus the reason I made mine not use weird libs. :P
02:33.04Gnarfoz(wtb timezone-aware irc client or something)
02:33.11TorhalIt took me a month to find the time to add coroutines to ARL so datamining didn't disconnect Ressy
02:33.26TorhalAnd that's failing on table.concat() or a frame's SetText
02:33.27Gnarfozpoor Ressy :(
02:33.29Gnarfozbut now she's saved!
02:33.39TorhalBy failing I mean taking well over a fucking minute to execute.
02:34.55Gnarfozthis "hacker vision" chrome addon is really nice :O no more "argh it's burning my eyes!" on bright websites at night
02:35.17Gnarfoz(like now, it's 04:35 :o)
02:35.42GnarfozStanzilla: having fun doing that slow-as-hell scenario?
02:36.01StanzillaGnarfoz: yes with 2 healers and a noob
02:36.05Stanzilla(imma healer)
02:36.07MysticalOSi used to have a ton of DC issues, my router would kill socket connection if upload pipe was maxed for more than 10 seconds. why? because the firmware had a hard coded keep alive that pinged google or some shit and then only waited like 0.5 seconds for an answer and if no answer, killed and restarted connection.
02:36.08MysticalOSno setting to control it
02:36.11TorhalI'm having fun figuring this fucker out: http://o7.no/12MmiTm
02:36.12MysticalOSused to make me RAGE
02:36.21GnarfozMysticalOS: wow that sounds bad :D
02:36.39GnarfozStanzilla: wow, see you when you get out then... in 3 years
02:36.42MysticalOSi flashed the boot loader then force fed different firmware NOT meant for router onto it
02:36.42StanzillaI raged for 12 hours today
02:36.46MysticalOSall good after that
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02:37.14TorhalAll of those prints happen simultaneously so I can't figure out WHERE it's bottlenecking.
02:37.15MysticalOSall i lost was wireless feature
02:37.28MysticalOSwhich didn't matter much to me
02:37.46KemayoAh, right, I'd forgotten all this. NPCScan's overlays are made by building a path up in Routes, then exporting it through several convoluted steps. It's cute.
02:38.07Gnarfoz:O
02:38.11TorhalBut between "About to display!" and "Displayed!" there is roughly 1.5 minutes of apparent nothingness save for the WoW client locking
02:38.25Gnarfozwell, you're supposed to re-use existing software, Kemayo, but... :D
02:38.26TorhalKemayo: It's horrendous.
02:38.29KemayoI remember I once went "hey, it's open source... can I just steal how he builds those?" ...and wound up deciding that, no, he's automating nearly-nothing.
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02:38.57TorhalI took it on because it's a well-loved project and I figured I could do it better.
02:39.00KemayoOn the plus side, this conversation *is* helping motivate me to go write my own overlay-builder.
02:39.00MysticalOSyou and torhal should come up with something together, for the good of all npcscanning addons
02:39.07TorhalThen I saw what I'd inherited and stabbed myself repeatedly.
02:41.43StanzillaGnarfoz: did you read my drama today?
02:41.54Gnarfozdon't think so
02:41.58Gnarfozwas in bed all day
02:42.04Stanzillanice day
02:42.06Gnarfoz(which is why I'm up now)
02:43.04Torhaldeletes Stanzilla's cookies.
02:43.10Stanzillathat was last week
02:43.15Stanzillatoday was partition table
02:43.21Stanzillaand all my data on my system drive
02:44.24Torhal:/
02:45.16Stanzillahate my life recently
02:46.00MysticalOSi swear a good 1/4th of these spells in encounter journal are just flag wrong, spell names are wrong, durations or ranges, this thing can be real worthless sometimes
02:46.09quiescensthat's not very nice torhal
02:46.18quiescensgives stanzilla a cookie
02:46.33Torhalgives Stanzilla quiescens's life.
02:46.45Stanzilla=(
02:46.53StanzillaI always wanted a reset button for Life.exe
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02:52.45MysticalOSWhen life.exe gets you down, run Life.app
02:52.58Repoopenall: 03kemayo * r55 OpenAll.toc: Bump TOC
02:53.36TorhalSo I wrapped the whole damn thing in a coroutine. Turns out that calling EditBox:Show() after a big-ass :SetText() takes all of that time.
02:53.52TorhalSo I'mma try showing first THEN setting text.
02:53.57Repohandynotes_lorewalkers: 03Kemayo 07master * v4-1-g1ff907a HandyNotes_Lorewalkers.toc: [+1 commit] Bump TOC
02:54.16Repohandynotes_lostandfound: 03Kemayo 07master * v7-1-g59bbbc7 HandyNotes_LostAndFound.toc: [+1 commit] Bump TOC
02:54.28quiescenssounds overly complicated
02:54.45MysticalOSwait til you try settext on ptr
02:55.14TorhalShit.
02:55.16MysticalOScalling it at login breaks shit, but works fine after that
02:55.24TorhalShowing first doesn't make it any faster.
02:55.35Torhalgives quiescens a complicated puzzle.
02:56.14TorhalI try to stay away from PTRs now. They're invariable unusable lately :/
02:56.14quiescens):
02:57.39MysticalOSTorhal, maybe you're computer is just too slow http://us.battle.net/en/forum/topic/9377149682#4
02:58.09TorhalNah. This time all of the lag was in EditBox:HighlightText()
02:58.27TorhalI don't get disconnected. Ressy does.
02:58.32TorhalSo her computer is too slow!
02:58.43MysticalOSyeah, wow likes to DC if lockup is longer than x seconds
02:58.59MysticalOSi think i managed it once doing a super optimize on like 3k nodes in deepholm
02:59.07MysticalOSfor routes
03:01.01Repobank-stack: 03Kemayo 07master * v31-2-ge0f0842  (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
03:01.01Repoe0f0842: Sanity check on item detail fetching
03:01.01Repo3b89ac8: Tic TOC
03:05.56TorhalSetText is being an evil fuck: http://o7.no/1d0YfWR
03:17.08KemayoDo you get booted from a scenario after you finish it, if everyone else leaves?
03:17.26Gnarfozdon't think so, no
03:18.07MysticalOSno
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03:28.51TorhalOk, definitely fucked.
03:28.54Torhalhttp://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-interface-customization/370434.htm
03:29.00TorhalKnown issues since 2006!
03:30.55quiescensfix it!
03:31.20Torhaldecompiles quiescens and inserts him into WoW's client code.
03:31.23TorhalGet to it!
03:31.28quiescensdies.
03:31.29Gnarfozwow, slouken post
03:31.33Gnarfozthat's quite old, indeed
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03:32.08Gnarfozalso, how do you make something like that be slow?!
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03:33.10quiescensskill
03:33.28Torhalslows quiescens immensely.
03:33.41quiescensdies.
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05:14.53Repo97b31b4: Support scenario objectives
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05:32.58Repobetter-quest: 03Kemayo 07master * v5-4-g7daa4ab core.lua: [+1 commit] Color objective counts, too
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06:34.25Fiskerhey Stanzilla
06:34.30Fiskernot so hey Gnarfoz
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12:36.56Stanzillahey Fisker
12:37.08Fiskerhey
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14:02.38Repostart populating the modules: Malkorok.lua, SiegecrafterBlackfuse.lua ParagonsOfTheKlaxxi.lua
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15:29.15RepoFail_Siege of Orgrimmar_Paragons of the Klaxxi_Reacton: Red
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16:23.27StanzillaFisker: do you have that hl2 respite card twice?
16:34.05Fiskermaybe
16:34.17Fiskeryou know a neat trick Stanzilla ?
16:34.26Fiskeri don't :(
16:34.37Stanzillanope
16:38.21StanzillaFisker: wanna trade me that one then?
16:42.30Fiskernope!
16:42.52Fiskergonna buy out the hl collection
16:45.43Fiskersee me in a moment Stanzilla
16:46.17Stanzillaok
16:47.53StanzillaI just super lucked
16:47.58Stanzillabought a booster and had all missing cards
16:48.24nevcairieldont all these cards sell for rather cheap on the community market?
16:48.44Fiskerhttp://steamcommunity.com/id/Fisker/badges
16:48.46Stanzillayes
16:48.49Fiskerdo you see my hl2 badge?
16:48.51Stanzillaboster was cheaper than 3 cards though
16:49.07FiskerDO YOU SEE IT?!
16:49.20Stanzillayes
16:50.06Fiskerok
16:50.07Fiskernow reload
16:50.45Stanzillait's a different one now
16:51.23Fiskeryes
16:51.27Fiskeri just completed it
16:51.32Fiskerusing my respite card
16:51.38Fiskerand like 30 other purchased cards
16:52.49Stanzillasomething's wrong with those guys at lvl 70+ on steam
16:53.31Fiskercan you make badges for games you don't have?
16:53.48Stanzilladunno
16:54.39nevcairielno
16:54.45Fiskerif you can't then yeah
16:54.59FiskerThough i may look into getting as many of the remaining games at the summer sale
16:56.20Fiskeraww man
16:56.24Fisker"quad hd"
16:56.27Fiskerand i was like "4K?"
16:56.30Fiskernoep
16:56.32Fisker4x720p
16:57.23nevcairielso they just mean 2560x1440?
16:57.27Fiskeryeah
16:57.33nevcairielthats horrible
16:58.30quiescensis stanzilla fixed now?
16:58.49Stanzillahad to re-do everything
16:58.51Stanzillaso basicly yeah
16:58.55Stanzillalost lots of stuff though :<
16:59.08nevcairielthis is why you dont store stuff on C
16:59.09quiescenscould not back things up?
16:59.17Stanzillanope
16:59.26nevcairieli dont have any single bit of important data on C
16:59.27Stanzillanevcairiel: user directory is usually on c
16:59.38Stanzillaand my desktop
16:59.46nevcairieldont store stuff on the desktop =P
16:59.47quiescenswho stores things on desktop
17:00.03Stanzillayeah well user directory was the big one
17:00.04Fiskerhey Stanzilla
17:00.08Fiskertried data recovery?
17:00.10Stanzilladesktop was just some notes txt files etc
17:00.12Stanzillayes Fisker
17:00.15nevcairieli have a documents folder in my google drive thing, and everything else on other drives
17:00.22nevcairielso everything is still there
17:00.24nevcairielif C goes
17:00.32Stanzillabut what about your user folder?
17:00.36Stanzillawith save games etc?
17:00.41Stanzillaprogram settings
17:01.16quiescensi usually back up most of the user profile directory before wiping a drive
17:01.18quiescensjust in case
17:01.19nevcairieli dont think i play any games that dont have either online profiles or steam synced profiles
17:01.32quiescensand then i end up keeping the backup forever for no good reason
17:01.48nevcairielsure, some settings would be lost, nothing tragic though
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17:03.11Stanzillait's not THAT bad though
17:03.14Stanzillalost some screenshots
17:03.15Stanzillasome pics
17:03.18Stanzillasome notes
17:03.21nevcairieli also have a backup setup of my project drive, where all my development work lives .. if the whole PC fries only my storage drive with the games on would go :p
17:03.23Stanzillabut that's pretty much it
17:03.29quiescenswhy did you break it in the first place?
17:03.33Stanzillaoh and my dev dir of course
17:03.37Stanzillawith all the svn/git checouts
17:03.48Stanzillaquiescens: wasn't intentional
17:03.51nevcairieli have all that on D
17:03.51nevcairiel:D
17:04.24quiescensi kind of started storing my documents and work and stuff in one directory synced between laptop and desktop
17:04.25Stanzillayeah..
17:04.44quiescensat least, i'm putting anything new in the one directory
17:04.51quiescensbut have been too lazy to move everything
17:05.03nevcairieli have all work in a special partition, in fact, its even its own physical drive, i just backup that whole drive onto my storage server
17:05.35nevcairielalthough it only runs weekly
17:06.55StanzillaI probably will start missing stuff next week when I continue doing my things
17:07.02StanzillaWeekend is for relaxing
17:07.56quiescensgives stanzilla a cookie
17:07.59Stanzillathanks
17:08.15Stanzillalike I have a folder with a lot of portable programs that, ofc, have their settings in the programs folder
17:08.24Stanzillaand I wanted them to run fast so they were on the ssd
17:08.25Stanzilla..
17:08.50nevcairielpartition ssd into two drives? :d
17:09.01nevcairielunless you're a cheapo and only get 128gb
17:09.12Stanzillawould not have helped me I guess
17:09.19Stanzillaseeing as the whole drive was borked
17:09.45Megalonbetter then the whole drive beign björked
17:10.14nevcairieli just kept my old ssd when i got a new one, so i have OS on the new one, and dev stuff and tools on the other
17:11.10Stanzillayea same, I just was too lazy to move all the stuff to the old one and alter the shortcuts etc
17:11.11Stanzilla:(
17:11.47nevcairieldidnt you just install windows 8.1
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17:12.10quiescenslazyness will be the end of us some day
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17:38.41Stanzillanevcairiel: as an upgrade, yes
17:45.43Stanzillanevcairiel: I think I asked that yesterday but missed your answer, do I need a standalone install of LAV now after it is included in mpc?
17:59.04nevcairielif you installed an upgrade, no wonder your system freaked out on you :D
18:01.31nevcairieland no, you dont necessarily need it anymore
18:05.08Stanzillaok
18:05.32Stanzillaand it was fine, just didn't restart after windows update (post upgrade) and after a driver update (sata)
18:05.36Stanzillaso I guess that was it
18:05.44Stanzillaanyway, should not have locked the drive
18:05.55nevcairielshould've just unlocked the drive
18:06.18Stanzillayeah
18:06.19Stanzillahow?
18:06.23Stanzillathe whole internet does not know
18:07.27StanzillaI googled and tried things for 10h+
18:07.59nevcairielin that time i would've already re-installed the system :P
18:08.19nevcairielprobably booted some quick linux disc to backup data if i had to
18:09.03Stanzillalinux cd is what I should have done, yeah
18:09.08Stanzillabut not sure if I could access it from it
18:09.10Stanzillabecause locked
18:09.12Stanzilla*shrug*
18:09.43nevcairiellinux usually doesnt care about such things :P
18:10.40Stanzillayeah well
18:10.43Kalrothupgrade from windows anything to windows anything == you end up with Windows ME XP 64-bit
18:10.54StanzillaI didn't think all my restoring tried would end up fucking up my partition table
18:10.56Stanzillaso yeah
18:10.58Stanzillabad luck
18:23.32Fiskeryou are a terrible person
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20:44.04Repoarl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.4.8-10-gc2d8da4 Scanner.lua: [+1 commit] Added progress bars for DB scanning/dumping.
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20:57.13Repoarl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.4.8-11-gc0bc581 Scanner.lua: [+1 commit] Make the progress bar movable.
21:10.37Stanzilla01Repo: arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.4.8-12-gc0bcf81 Penis.lua: [+1 commit] Make the penis bar movable.
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21:20.21FiskerA
21:20.23Reposilver-dragon: 03Kemayo 07master * v3.0.7-4-g0ab7a22 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits]
21:20.23Repo0ab7a22: Rerun the miner. Picks up new rares.
21:20.23Repo31899a1: Fix wowhead locale loading
21:20.23Repo5cdd3e8: Was missing Throne of Thunder
21:21.02MysticalOSthe new rares aren't rare on live, if you're talking about the vale ones
21:21.54KemayoNot particularly. I just meant it'd picked up 10-ish new ones since I last ran it.
21:22.40KemayoYou might be amazed at the extent to which I have not been keeping up to date with WoW news lately. :D
21:22.52MysticalOSall you were missing maybe was 2 pandaria ones and some ToT ones that are insignficant since they are weekly quests you can't skip if you tried
21:22.53MysticalOS:P
21:23.35MysticalOSin 5.4 all the quest related npcs that are tied t removed dailies are changed to rares
21:23.43MysticalOSlike 10-15 new vale rares, forget exact count
21:23.59MysticalOSalthough on live they are still just quest mobs and not rare yet
21:31.26Torhalsends Stanzilla to a penis bar.
21:32.09Stanzillado you get free drinks there?
21:39.17nebula169you better believe it
21:40.05TorhalHahaha
21:40.25TorhalYes, Stanzilla - the drinks are "free"
21:40.45nebula169sometimes they even pay /you/ if you swallow it
21:41.11Stanzillabah
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