| 00:10.14 | MysticalOS | Torhal, the big question is this. mac support? |
| 00:10.41 | Torhal | Supposedly after launch, but I don't know about the AddOn tool - it's a separate program. |
| 00:11.06 | MysticalOS | eww, after launch for an MMO? |
| 00:11.19 | Torhal | Last I heard - may have changed since February. |
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| 00:14.07 | Xuerian | GW2 did mac after launch |
| 00:14.21 | Xuerian | Not arguing merits, but it did well |
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| 00:27.58 | Repo | ora3: 03nebula169 * r643 oRA3.lua: scale down the tabs a touch |
| 00:29.33 | Repo | ora3: 03nebula169 * r644 modules/Gear.lua: Gear: fix slash command |
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| 00:47.31 | Repo | ora3: 03nebula169 * r645 (7 files in 2 directories): switch inTable's declaration to dot syntax |
| 01:02.37 | Repo | ora3: 03nebula169 * r646 modules/Cooldowns.lua: Cooldowns: stop bars for people that leave the group |
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| 01:58.41 | nebula169 | heh, found this cleaning up my pictures http://nebularg.com/wow/2a7apw8.gif |
| 02:11.34 | pompy | nebula169: says the image contains errors |
| 02:12.26 | nebula169 | weird, plays fine for me |
| 02:13.04 | sb | works fine |
| 02:28.40 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 03:14.21 | Repo | ascendancetimer: 03oscarucb * r7 core.lua: add LvB misses to the tier calculation |
| 03:14.23 | Repo | add feature to override CD display on default ActionButtons |
| 03:15.14 | Repo | ascendancetimer: 03oscarucb 041.1 * r8 : Tagging as 1.1 |
| 03:30.25 | Repo | ascendancetimer: 03oscarucb * r9 core.lua: tweak the actionbutton update |
| 03:30.41 | Repo | ascendancetimer: 03oscarucb 041.1.1 * r10 : Tagging as 1.1.1 |
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| 06:23.42 | Torhal | @ping |
| 06:23.43 | Repo | Torhal: Pong. |
| 06:34.08 | quiescens | pats repo |
| 06:34.56 | Torhal | @curse quiescens |
| 06:34.57 | Repo | Torhal: Project "quiescens" was not found. |
| 06:35.13 | quiescens | ): |
| 06:36.40 | Stanzilla | morning |
| 06:39.37 | quiescens | o/ |
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| 06:59.48 | Repo | auracle: 03stanzilla * r139 Auracle.lua: let's error less here |
| 07:00.52 | Repo | auracle: 03stanzilla * r140 Auracle.lua: also just enable ALL THE THINGS to be safe |
| 07:01.11 | Stanzilla | not very proud of that code |
| 07:07.23 | Stanzilla | bah, there is no masque skinner for combuctor ( |
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| 07:08.25 | Stanzilla | oh nvm http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info21988-Combuctor_Masque.html |
| 07:15.00 | Torhal | !project auracle |
| 07:15.03 | Torhal | @project auracle |
| 07:15.03 | Repo | Torhal: [WoW] Auracle (De)Buff Monitor (Updated Jun 01, 2013 at 7:02 UTC) - https://www.wowace.com/addons/auracle/ |
| 07:15.25 | Torhal | There Stanzilla goes again. Updating dead shit. |
| 07:15.26 | Torhal | :D |
| 07:16.28 | Stanzilla | Torhal: not dead, works 100% fine |
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| 07:21.21 | Stanzilla | my hate for jaliborc just grew over 9000 |
| 07:23.15 | Torhal | Stanzilla: ? |
| 07:23.45 | Stanzilla | lack of options in combuctor |
| 07:23.49 | Stanzilla | ticket was opened by himself |
| 07:23.51 | Stanzilla | 2 years ago |
| 07:24.26 | Torhal | HAWT |
| 07:24.40 | Stanzilla | idd |
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| 07:40.39 | Repo | gathermate2: 03Phanx 07master * 1.26-1-g6bbfe2e Config.lua: [+1 commit] Improved Broker plugin. Right-click for options, click to toggle minimap icons, shift-click to toggle minimap icons. |
| 07:43.36 | Stanzilla | Caleb|: help :( that still errors |
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| 07:51.54 | Repo | auracle: 03stanzilla * r141 Auracle.lua: better. maybe? |
| 07:52.43 | Stanzilla | ofc not |
| 07:52.44 | Stanzilla | fml |
| 07:53.44 | Stanzilla | how hard can it be to disable that fucking addon on a event and then renable it on another |
| 07:55.20 | Stanzilla | cheer me up, Torhal |
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| 09:16.03 | quiescens | what did you break this time stan? |
| 09:20.32 | znf | Everything. |
| 09:21.50 | Stanzilla | quiescens: nothing; I just need a way to disable the addon without actually disabling it so the event handler stays and enables it later again |
| 09:23.08 | quiescens | you can do it~! |
| 09:23.24 | quiescens | i has faith in you |
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| 09:30.44 | Fisker | i hate oracle |
| 09:30.54 | Fisker | i need to install some oracle stuff without an installer |
| 09:31.15 | Fisker | and i need to modify system enviroment variables too |
| 09:31.28 | Fisker | which was easy |
| 09:31.34 | Fisker | now i just need to properly be able to remove it again |
| 09:33.44 | Fisker | oracle are always a bunch of dicks |
| 09:33.49 | Fisker | their java installer is shit too |
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| 09:36.47 | Repo | reforgelite: 03iroared * r96 (5 files in 1 directory): 1.28 |
| 09:37.04 | Repo | reforgelite: 03iroared 04v1.28 * r97 : Tagging as v1.28 |
| 09:40.50 | Stanzilla | holy shit |
| 09:40.53 | Stanzilla | what did he do there |
| 09:42.32 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 09:42.34 | Fisker | wanna haswell? |
| 09:42.43 | Stanzilla | nope |
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| 09:55.13 | nevcairiel | its funny how you can apparently already order haswell from some shops, but no mainboards yet |
| 09:55.20 | nevcairiel | wonder who would do that |
| 09:57.24 | Fisker | I would nevcairiel |
| 10:00.41 | Stanzilla | Adys: https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/PYTHON-532 that could have been Fisker |
| 10:02.43 | wink | it's too much to the point, not enough random rambling |
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| 10:15.51 | Megalon | and it actually has a valid bug |
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| 10:21.36 | Repo | reforgelite: 03stanzilla * r98 Scaling.lua: remove breaking brace |
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| 10:48.01 | wink | didn't someone say they forgot "load out of date addons"? I had it now |
| 10:48.42 | wink | or are we at 5.3.1 already? |
| 10:49.47 | sb | morning |
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| 11:12.28 | Stanzilla | wink: a mini patch finally reset it, not .1 though |
| 11:13.42 | wink | aah |
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| 11:36.29 | sb | nevcairiel: will buy from amazon anyways this time - realized they removed the limit from their "partnernet" thingy :D |
| 11:42.08 | sb | nevcairiel: delux or pro mainboard? :o |
| 11:43.06 | nevcairiel | probably pro |
| 11:43.08 | nevcairiel | need specs |
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| 11:48.25 | Stanzilla | simple m4a to mp3 converter? (not itunes) |
| 11:48.29 | Stanzilla | oh an free |
| 11:48.30 | Stanzilla | *d |
| 11:59.20 | Megalon | stop rapemurderpiratekilling music, stan |
| 12:04.32 | sb | nevcairiel: http://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/artikel/hardware/mainboards/26281-ueberblick-die-z87-mainboards-von-asus.html |
| 12:06.11 | nevcairiel | these overviews lack the specific details i need to know |
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| 12:15.54 | Repo | gnomeworks: 03wildcard_25 * r229 RecipeData.lua: |
| 12:15.54 | Repo | Make sure GetRecipeDifficulty always returns a value (drycode). |
| 12:27.42 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 12:27.53 | Fisker | old sb |
| 12:29.53 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
| 12:30.37 | Fisker | hey |
| 12:30.42 | Fisker | what to do? |
| 12:33.00 | Stanzilla | uploading music to google |
| 12:33.12 | quiescens | don't do it~ |
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| 12:33.54 | Fisker | why do you have m4a music? |
| 12:34.02 | Fisker | are you a bad person? |
| 12:34.12 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 12:34.26 | Fisker | knew it |
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| 13:39.12 | sb | eu logins dead? |
| 13:39.14 | sb | eu servers dead? |
| 13:39.19 | quiescens | panic~! |
| 13:39.26 | quiescens | runs around in circles |
| 13:39.37 | sb | shots quiescens |
| 13:39.50 | quiescens | dieds. |
| 13:39.55 | Funkeh`` | sb, a few sservers just crashed |
| 13:40.23 | quiescens | i couldn't work out what tense that was so i split the difference |
| 13:41.48 | sb | ~wowalert |
| 13:41.49 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 13:42.32 | Funkeh`` | and again |
| 13:42.44 | quiescens | funkeh did it |
| 13:43.30 | sb | yup... |
| 13:44.21 | sb | world server is down \o/ |
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| 13:47.07 | sb | thank you Stanzilla |
| 13:47.15 | Stanzilla | for what |
| 13:47.20 | sb | crashing servers! |
| 13:47.27 | Stanzilla | np |
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| 14:00.01 | Stanzilla | GG WP BLIZZARD |
| 14:00.04 | Stanzilla | horridon trash is back |
| 14:00.31 | sb | cool |
| 14:00.34 | quiescens | \o/ |
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| 14:16.33 | wink | woo, 90 |
| 14:16.40 | sb | grats :P |
| 14:16.45 | wink | another useless priest who can't play \o/ |
| 14:16.48 | wink | thanks. |
| 14:16.50 | wink | so boring |
| 14:18.09 | Fisker | are you mad Stanzilla ? |
| 14:19.52 | Stanzilla | nope |
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| 14:23.44 | Fisker | good |
| 14:23.47 | Fisker | you didn't seem mad |
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| 14:37.45 | Funkeh`` | wow reforgelite |
| 14:37.53 | Funkeh`` | I was all exite to update to version 1.28 |
| 14:37.57 | Funkeh`` | for all the new changes and shit |
| 14:38.08 | Stanzilla | look at the diff |
| 14:38.11 | Stanzilla | so funny :D |
| 14:38.12 | Funkeh`` | you know what I'm saying Stanzilla |
| 14:38.16 | Funkeh`` | error at login |
| 14:38.25 | Stanzilla | that I fixed |
| 14:38.32 | Funkeh`` | ReforgeLite\Scaling.lua:3386: unexpected symbol near ')' |
| 14:38.36 | Funkeh`` | I mean, do you even test |
| 14:38.52 | Stanzilla | fixed in the alpha |
| 14:39.02 | Stanzilla | the funny thing is how he replaced tooltip scanning though |
| 14:39.12 | Stanzilla | confused the shit out of me |
| 14:39.48 | Funkeh`` | it doesn't look like he's packing alphas |
| 14:39.55 | Funkeh`` | but the current release is fucked |
| 14:40.35 | Funkeh`` | so he's using the method I'm using in ora now? |
| 14:41.05 | Stanzilla | I don't know what you use |
| 14:41.14 | Stanzilla | but its a ton of values from the dbcs or so |
| 14:41.23 | Stanzilla | just skimmed over it |
| 14:46.24 | Funkeh`` | wow |
| 14:46.28 | Funkeh`` | just what I wanted Stanzilla |
| 14:46.36 | Funkeh`` | a giant ass table full of values |
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| 14:47.37 | Stanzilla | yes :D |
| 14:49.58 | Stanzilla | Funkeh``: do you wanna help me out with my auracle problem maybe? |
| 14:50.06 | Stanzilla | I'm too dumb to figure it out |
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| 14:50.52 | Funkeh`` | sounds like a trap |
| 14:51.14 | Stanzilla | it's not that hard, I'm just trying to disable the mod on a event and reenable on another |
| 14:51.26 | Stanzilla | and I don't understand enoug of it to do that properly |
| 14:51.45 | Stanzilla | my guess is when I really disable it, the event handles goes away too |
| 14:52.37 | Funkeh`` | if you're calling :Disable on an event then every event will be unregistered if you're using aceevent |
| 14:52.46 | Funkeh`` | you'd need to register an event after that to enable it |
| 14:54.30 | Stanzilla | hrm |
| 14:55.32 | Stanzilla | that's what I thought, now I just need to know which frame to use etc |
| 14:56.24 | znf | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.31 | znf | I wonder where I could get a 3rd identical monitor from |
| 14:57.01 | Stanzilla | Funkeh``: can I just self:RegisterEvent in there? |
| 14:57.24 | Funkeh`` | probably |
| 14:57.29 | Stanzilla | http://paste2.org/Le5PcX4N |
| 14:57.33 | Stanzilla | that's the 2 functions |
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| 14:58.15 | Funkeh`` | probably |
| 14:58.19 | Stanzilla | ok |
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| 15:06.28 | Fisker | hey Funkeh`` |
| 15:06.34 | Fisker | is this some meme i'm unaware of? |
| 15:06.46 | Fisker | Or will you please stop spelling excited wrong? It upsets me :( |
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| 15:52.47 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel Fisker haswell nda just lifted |
| 15:52.52 | Fisker | old? |
| 15:53.15 | Stanzilla | yers |
| 15:53.17 | Stanzilla | 1h ago |
| 15:53.19 | Stanzilla | srorry |
| 15:54.07 | nevcairiel | the new iris pro gpu seems to do really well |
| 15:55.26 | nevcairiel | (for a iGPU) |
| 15:56.22 | Fisker | no z87 here yet :( |
| 15:57.12 | nevcairiel | funny how the new iGPU beats AMDs APUs, that will kill AMDs cpu market completely now |
| 15:58.53 | nevcairiel | but yeah, give z87 board roundup and tech details |
| 15:59.38 | sb | APU? |
| 15:59.53 | Fisker | some fancy new term |
| 16:00.09 | nevcairiel | accelerated processing unit or something |
| 16:00.09 | Fisker | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerated_processing_unit |
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| 16:00.18 | nevcairiel | its how AMD calls their new CPU+GPU thingys |
| 16:00.21 | wodim | yes hello |
| 16:00.24 | wodim | wodim here |
| 16:00.44 | wodim | there is something i am wondering and i think you can help me |
| 16:00.49 | Stanzilla | gtfo wodim |
| 16:00.53 | Stanzilla | you french weirdo |
| 16:00.56 | wodim | fuck you french |
| 16:01.00 | Stanzilla | ! |
| 16:01.00 | wodim | k now shut up |
| 16:01.10 | wodim | is it possible to read the output of SendAddonMessage ? |
| 16:01.22 | wodim | i mean, everything that is being sent in my guild or something like that |
| 16:01.36 | nevcairiel | you need to know the prefix of stuff i think |
| 16:01.49 | nevcairiel | wonder if you can tell it to receive all messages |
| 16:01.51 | wodim | different addons use different prefixes i suppose |
| 16:02.04 | wodim | but is there an addon for that already? google brings me nothing |
| 16:02.05 | nebula169 | don't register a prefix and it'll still trap everything |
| 16:02.19 | nebula169 | atleast it did in the recent past >.> |
| 16:02.29 | wodim | nice |
| 16:02.32 | wodim | how do i do so? |
| 16:03.01 | wodim | i supposed there would be a way to do so without having to install any aditional addons |
| 16:03.48 | nebula169 | can try /run local f = CreateFrame("Frame") f:SetScript("OnEvent", print) f:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_ADDON") |
| 16:04.03 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/prozessoren/2013/intel-haswell-prozessor-fuer-desktop-pcs-im-test/20/ |
| 16:04.14 | wodim | no output (by now) |
| 16:04.23 | wodim | ah yes, i see output |
| 16:04.27 | wodim | nice, thanks |
| 16:04.30 | Stanzilla | is it french? |
| 16:04.49 | wodim | not hopefully |
| 16:04.56 | Stanzilla | didn't know you play wow btw :p |
| 16:05.09 | wodim | i do |
| 16:05.11 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: y u link that |
| 16:06.05 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: I was about to mention something from that, then I was distracted by raid and forgot :< |
| 16:06.48 | nevcairiel | that page has a few flaws in it anyway |
| 16:07.01 | Stanzilla | like? |
| 16:07.12 | Stanzilla | I think I wanted to say that the upgrade is probably not worth it for me |
| 16:07.13 | Stanzilla | from Ivy |
| 16:07.16 | nevcairiel | they say they increased the TDP because its less efficient |
| 16:07.22 | nevcairiel | but thats not hte reason |
| 16:07.36 | nevcairiel | the TDP was increased because the voltage regulators are now on the CPU, and those produce heat |
| 16:07.48 | Fisker | It's technically not worth it if you're running 1st i7 oc'ed :P |
| 16:08.02 | Fisker | i think i'll upgrade from SB though |
| 16:08.09 | nevcairiel | i dont think, i will |
| 16:08.13 | wodim | https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1FR5H8tu2PU/UaocaakdwhI/AAAAAAAAWag/eAY4VadB8yg/s0/image_01062013_180806.png |
| 16:08.15 | nevcairiel | but also for othe reasons |
| 16:08.17 | wodim | wonder what these people mean |
| 16:08.54 | nevcairiel | i kinda "need" the new GPU for developing some improvements, and the new CPU features like AVX2 will also be nice to develop stuff for |
| 16:08.57 | Fisker | they mean carbonite spam |
| 16:09.07 | wodim | Crb |
| 16:09.08 | wodim | right |
| 16:09.09 | nevcairiel | i got a 1200 CHF donation last week, that'll buy me new hardware :p |
| 16:09.14 | Fisker | CHF? |
| 16:09.29 | nevcairiel | swiss money |
| 16:09.31 | Fisker | oh |
| 16:09.49 | nevcairiel | ~950 € |
| 16:10.12 | Fisker | lots of room for a 4770k and a new board |
| 16:10.14 | Fisker | do it |
| 16:10.15 | Fisker | DO IT |
| 16:10.18 | nevcairiel | i will! |
| 16:10.23 | nevcairiel | also, new ram and new cooler |
| 16:10.24 | Fisker | btw nevcairiel |
| 16:10.25 | Fisker | BTW |
| 16:10.36 | Fisker | you're receiving foreign money while working with nuclear reactors |
| 16:10.40 | Fisker | i see whats going on here |
| 16:10.57 | nevcairiel | all german nuclear reactors of my employer are shutdown |
| 16:11.17 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: for LAV? |
| 16:11.19 | Fisker | yeah exactly |
| 16:11.44 | Stanzilla | also wtf |
| 16:11.47 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: of course |
| 16:11.48 | Stanzilla | such a high donation? |
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| 16:12.02 | nevcairiel | i got a couple of 500€ ones before, but this was indeed the highest |
| 16:12.10 | nevcairiel | some company donated that use LAV, |
| 16:12.21 | Fisker | http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/zardon/asus-z87-sabertooth-motherboard-review-w-intel-i7-4770k/ |
| 16:12.21 | Stanzilla | oh right |
| 16:12.23 | nevcairiel | thats not much money for a company, so all to me! |
| 16:12.25 | Fisker | not that i would ever want that |
| 16:12.25 | Stanzilla | I was thinking wow addons only |
| 16:12.28 | Fisker | but that's one review |
| 16:12.32 | Stanzilla | totally forgot that you probably get stuff for lav, too |
| 16:12.55 | nevcairiel | sabertooth is weird |
| 16:13.05 | nevcairiel | asus should just post specs on their models |
| 16:13.06 | Stanzilla | I love my sabertooth |
| 16:13.12 | Fisker | maybe they have |
| 16:13.25 | nevcairiel | i would always be worried that this tiny fan would start making noises |
| 16:13.32 | nevcairiel | the one that pumps air into the armor |
| 16:13.51 | Stanzilla | does not for me |
| 16:14.14 | Fisker | http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/SABERTOOTH_Z87/ |
| 16:14.15 | Fisker | haha |
| 16:14.23 | nevcairiel | you forged url? |
| 16:14.32 | nevcairiel | navigation didnt have it yet |
| 16:14.47 | Fisker | yeah |
| 16:14.50 | Fisker | http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/MAXIMUS_VI_EXTREME/ |
| 16:15.33 | Fisker | Intel® I217V |
| 16:15.38 | Fisker | i wonder if that controller is awesome |
| 16:15.42 | Fisker | never heard of a number that low! |
| 16:16.40 | nevcairiel | a new controller from feb '13 apparently |
| 16:17.15 | Fisker | need the list over boards |
| 16:17.17 | nevcairiel | with vPro functionality |
| 16:17.20 | Fisker | so i can see if i want thw ws one |
| 16:17.31 | Fisker | no mention of vpro on the maximus page |
| 16:17.54 | nevcairiel | well i suppose the the NIC may support it optionally only |
| 16:17.58 | Fisker | yeah |
| 16:18.16 | Fisker | only one port though |
| 16:18.18 | Fisker | sadface |
| 16:18.22 | Fisker | not that i use the second |
| 16:18.33 | wink | LAV=? |
| 16:18.40 | nevcairiel | one is fine, two is a neat edition, but i would probably use it only one day a year or something |
| 16:18.45 | nevcairiel | addition* |
| 16:18.47 | Fisker | will check if i can trick the navigation |
| 16:19.04 | nevcairiel | i tried to forge the normal P8Z87 boards, but didnt find a url |
| 16:19.47 | nevcairiel | oh some are showing up |
| 16:19.52 | nevcairiel | H87-PRO |
| 16:20.51 | Fisker | probably coming up as we speak |
| 16:21.11 | nevcairiel | there is the Z87-WS |
| 16:21.25 | Fisker | http://www.asus.com/supportonly/Z87WS/ |
| 16:21.47 | nevcairiel | http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z87PRO/ |
| 16:22.16 | nevcairiel | nice, the PRO has PS/2 :P |
| 16:22.28 | Stanzilla | wink: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=156191 |
| 16:22.49 | wink | ah thanks |
| 16:22.57 | Fisker | most of them do i think nevcairiel |
| 16:23.07 | Fisker | even though it sucks |
| 16:23.10 | wink | would've been a little surprised for wow addons :P |
| 16:23.28 | wink | nice job, all I ever got was one CD from my amazon wishlist |
| 16:23.29 | nevcairiel | Fisker: deluxe doesnt |
| 16:23.34 | wink | for 10 years of open source \o/ |
| 16:23.52 | Fisker | because it's aimed at not retards |
| 16:23.53 | Fisker | :P |
| 16:23.57 | nevcairiel | i also need at least 2 HDMI/DVI connectors, my silly screens have no display port |
| 16:24.04 | nevcairiel | PS/2 > USB for keyboards |
| 16:24.08 | Fisker | terrible |
| 16:24.15 | Fisker | mine has like a billion ports |
| 16:24.22 | Fisker | 2 dvi, hdmi and dp i think |
| 16:24.30 | nevcairiel | maybe i'm lying |
| 16:24.32 | nevcairiel | let me check |
| 16:24.42 | sb | PS/2 > USB? why? |
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| 16:24.47 | nevcairiel | apparently they do have DP |
| 16:24.49 | nevcairiel | my board just didnt |
| 16:24.51 | Funkeh`` | sb, because it can be keylogged! xD |
| 16:24.57 | sb | :| |
| 16:25.05 | nevcairiel | sb: only PS/2 supports infinite rollover |
| 16:25.44 | sb | "Full N-Key roll over via USB" |
| 16:25.46 | Stanzilla | wink: what do you dev |
| 16:26.00 | sb | from the description of my keyboard |
| 16:26.15 | nevcairiel | sb: its probably hoping you dont hit the limit :p |
| 16:26.21 | sb | :D |
| 16:26.30 | wink | Stanzilla: everything, that's probably one of the causes. I'm jumping between projects all the time and never started a successful one on my own |
| 16:26.30 | nevcairiel | admittedly its like at 9 keys |
| 16:26.37 | Fisker | no |
| 16:26.38 | Fisker | 6 |
| 16:26.41 | nevcairiel | 6? |
| 16:26.42 | nevcairiel | oh well |
| 16:26.43 | Fisker | yes |
| 16:27.01 | Fisker | And i'm pretty sure it's been fixed in most serious gaming keyboards either way |
| 16:27.13 | nevcairiel | how do you fix a usb limitation? |
| 16:27.16 | Fisker | has something to do with how the usb packets are constructed |
| 16:28.03 | nevcairiel | ew the deluxe has two NICs, but one is realtek <.< |
| 16:28.45 | Stanzilla | wink: lke what? |
| 16:28.51 | Fisker | sucks nevcairiel :( |
| 16:28.56 | Fisker | i think the WS one uses 2xintel |
| 16:29.11 | nevcairiel | it does |
| 16:30.14 | wink | Stanzilla: you'll probably don't know most besides PHP |
| 16:31.28 | Fisker | i hope i can get it to boot fast though nevcairiel |
| 16:31.33 | Fisker | my surface pro is fucking insane |
| 16:31.37 | Fisker | boots in 3-5 seconds |
| 16:31.54 | nevcairiel | it says it supports intel rapid start |
| 16:31.55 | wodim | hey a question about the game, what happened to the boats that departed from theramore island now that it's destroyed |
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| 16:32.03 | Fisker | yeah |
| 16:32.08 | Fisker | all z77 and above boards do |
| 16:32.15 | Fisker | mine is p68 sadly though :( |
| 16:32.19 | Fisker | even z68 might support it |
| 16:32.22 | Fisker | p67* |
| 16:32.24 | nevcairiel | z68 doesnt |
| 16:32.26 | nevcairiel | i have one |
| 16:32.33 | Fisker | that sucks |
| 16:32.47 | wink | wtf is this rapid start? |
| 16:32.48 | Fisker | I tried doing it on mine |
| 16:32.58 | Fisker | then i learned it didn't support it |
| 16:33.08 | wink | http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P8Z77M/#specifications seems to support it |
| 16:33.08 | nevcairiel | wink: it "remembers" the bios init and skips directly to the OS init, more or less |
| 16:33.14 | Fisker | basically it allows skipping legacy bios oproms for fast booting wink |
| 16:33.39 | wink | nevcairiel: ah. well. it is quick but I hadn't noticed RIDICULOUS BOOT TIME |
| 16:33.40 | Fisker | lets wikipedia it |
| 16:33.58 | nevcairiel | it only works really great with windows 8 |
| 16:34.02 | nevcairiel | needs some OS help |
| 16:34.02 | wink | meh |
| 16:34.12 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1VrW_d3E-Y |
| 16:34.12 | Fisker | btw |
| 16:34.47 | nevcairiel | that sure was a fast boot |
| 16:35.05 | wink | that sure was a cheesy video |
| 16:35.40 | Fisker | sure was |
| 16:35.55 | wink | god the direct button |
| 16:36.04 | Fisker | also it doesn't work if you have a graphics card installed with a legacy bios oprom installed |
| 16:36.12 | Fisker | which is why i flashed an uefi bios on mine |
| 16:36.24 | Fisker | and almost bricked my 680 in the process :P |
| 16:36.30 | wink | lol |
| 16:36.43 | wink | I'm actually eager to try out win8 |
| 16:36.54 | wink | but no way in hell I'd waste this working win7 install |
| 16:37.05 | Fisker | i hope oracle dies soon |
| 16:38.10 | wink | as much as I hate to disappoint you... won't happen |
| 16:38.28 | Fisker | yeah |
| 16:38.43 | Fisker | If only it was possible to use another DB |
| 16:38.57 | wink | for what? |
| 16:39.04 | Fisker | just some software at work |
| 16:39.06 | Fisker | well it is possible |
| 16:39.09 | wink | I still haven't seen a worthwhile use :P |
| 16:39.12 | Fisker | :P |
| 16:39.19 | wink | it's all just company policy |
| 16:39.48 | wink | not saying no one needs it, but I've never seen it |
| 16:39.54 | Fisker | If we could run this software on a mssql i would be sooo happy |
| 16:40.04 | Fisker | or just anything else really |
| 16:40.12 | wink | return of the flatfile |
| 16:40.21 | wink | still a better consistency story than mongodb! |
| 16:41.07 | wink | still, not sure if I'm happy or sad that the days of obsessing over hardware are over for me |
| 16:41.21 | wink | I had to look up my mainboard in a blog post |
| 16:41.31 | wink | I'd never remembered it |
| 16:42.15 | nevcairiel | hm, obviously the WS has a PCIe switch, i wonder, does it harm performance if that thing is present but you dont use it? :d |
| 16:43.59 | nevcairiel | also, two 8-pin power connectors on the board? i wonder if i even have a second cable :P |
| 16:45.27 | Fisker | need a new psu either way :D |
| 16:45.50 | nevcairiel | mine would still be good, i suppose |
| 16:47.31 | Fisker | yeah |
| 16:47.38 | Fisker | but doesn't support the new c-states probably |
| 16:48.22 | nevcairiel | mine does |
| 16:48.28 | nevcairiel | manufacturer certified it |
| 16:48.46 | nevcairiel | got a seasonic x-series |
| 16:49.02 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 16:49.13 | Fisker | seasonic is shit |
| 16:49.20 | Fisker | i prefer corsair branded seasonic psus |
| 16:50.32 | nevcairiel | and i actually found a second 8-port cpu dealy in my cable bag |
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| 16:51.39 | nevcairiel | maybe i'll go WS as well, it doesnt have these nonsense features like WiFi |
| 16:52.24 | Fisker | you could put something else there instead |
| 16:53.30 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 16:53.38 | Fisker | ssd |
| 16:53.40 | Fisker | tv tuner |
| 16:53.43 | Fisker | sata |
| 16:53.43 | Fisker | idk |
| 16:53.58 | nevcairiel | instead of the silly wifi? :p |
| 16:54.48 | Fisker | yes |
| 16:55.08 | nevcairiel | how do you rip out the integrated wifi? :p |
| 16:55.25 | quiescens | with a hammer |
| 16:56.14 | Arrowmaster | is it part an expansion card |
| 16:56.23 | nevcairiel | nah, its part of the IO shield |
| 16:56.31 | nevcairiel | cable connectors for an antenna |
| 16:57.06 | Arrowmaster | thats not a haswell board is it? |
| 16:58.04 | nebula169 | nevcairiel: you can remove it |
| 16:58.45 | Fisker | the maximus one can be removed as far as i know atleast |
| 16:58.55 | nevcairiel | i was talking about the pro |
| 16:59.41 | nebula169 | i assume any board with the wifi go stuff can be removed, its just an addon card thats screwed in there |
| 17:00.49 | Fisker | i thought they wouldn't have bothered to solder it on the boards at all nevcairiel |
| 17:01.22 | nevcairiel | its directly part of the main IO shield, would be odd if you can mess with that part |
| 17:09.13 | Fisker | a |
| 17:17.36 | sb | nevcairiel: WS? |
| 17:20.50 | nevcairiel | WS looks like it might serve me best, just needs pricing |
| 17:21.07 | sb | whats WS? :P |
| 17:21.11 | sb | board type? |
| 17:21.21 | nevcairiel | http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z87WS/ |
| 17:21.24 | sb | ah, i see |
| 17:21.28 | sb | workstation |
| 17:24.04 | sb | mhh, asus or gigabyte (uefi looks better there) |
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| 17:38.40 | Fisker | source sb |
| 17:38.48 | nevcairiel | why would you care how your bios looks |
| 17:39.10 | sb | Fisker: paper stuff next to me :D |
| 17:39.12 | nevcairiel | i actually kinda liked the old blue award bios |
| 17:39.12 | Fisker | why do you care how your mom looks? |
| 17:39.34 | nevcairiel | it gave me more of a bios'y feeling |
| 17:44.01 | quiescens | the yellow on blue? |
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| 18:18.53 | Stanzilla | just played resto druid first time in my life |
| 18:18.56 | Stanzilla | pretty fun |
| 18:19.17 | nevcairiel | it is |
| 18:19.43 | Stanzilla | well actually I lied |
| 18:19.48 | Stanzilla | it's the first time since wotlk |
| 18:20.01 | Stanzilla | I played it a few times there on a friend's account in her raid |
| 18:20.59 | nevcairiel | although healing charts can get annoying if you have a bunch of direct-healing-snipers in your raid that always make your hots go nowhere |
| 18:21.33 | nevcairiel | but once there is more damage than they can steal away from your hots, it gets good .p |
| 18:21.43 | Megalon | hots walk around now? damn |
| 18:27.51 | sb | haha Stanzilla, you said "friend" and "her" |
| 18:27.55 | sb | whats wrong? |
| 18:29.09 | nevcairiel | back in classic i played a priest in a few friends on a girls account, is that so special? :p and yes, she also was just a friend :p |
| 18:29.21 | nevcairiel | in a few raids* |
| 18:29.59 | nevcairiel | more precise, she was the girl friend of a friend, so no touching anyway! |
| 18:31.18 | wink | my first raid as resto was progression on Archimonde |
| 18:31.30 | wink | oddly enough we killed him |
| 18:31.47 | sb | mhh archimonde cloak :D |
| 18:31.51 | wink | talk about overpowered ZA gear :D |
| 18:31.55 | sb | "click, CLICK!1111 ... too late" |
| 18:32.08 | nevcairiel | i played resto since day 1 classic, never switched main, never any serious alt raiding |
| 18:32.09 | wink | fun times |
| 18:32.37 | wink | nevcairiel: lucky you, I have to swap between combat and assa nearly every expansion! :D |
| 18:32.53 | nevcairiel | well you still play dps rogue all the time |
| 18:32.56 | wink | yea |
| 18:33.08 | wink | that was sarcasm as well |
| 18:33.13 | znf | pure dps classes don't get to complain |
| 18:33.22 | Stanzilla | sb: :( |
| 18:33.25 | wink | but I had to bring alts in various progression raids |
| 18:33.26 | sb | played priest healer for 5 years then shadow (until now) |
| 18:33.31 | wink | as we've been never "really good" |
| 18:33.33 | sb | (err, and still playing :D) |
| 18:33.35 | wink | so my alts suffice :D |
| 18:33.58 | wink | resto shammy on professor as well |
| 18:34.03 | nevcairiel | sb: that was because in classic priests had to heal or stay outside :P |
| 18:34.10 | wink | think I even tanked Karazhan and Grull |
| 18:34.14 | nevcairiel | like pallys and druids too |
| 18:34.18 | wink | s,ul,uu, |
| 18:34.19 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: our main druid is the biggest QQ machine, he is almost znf level |
| 18:34.24 | nevcairiel | that bad eh |
| 18:34.26 | sb | nevcairiel: yes, in classic i had shadow spec and healed "nevermind, its okay here" (mc and stuff) |
| 18:34.29 | Stanzilla | biggest resto druid problems are absorbs and monk healers |
| 18:34.35 | Stanzilla | because their hots tick faster |
| 18:34.36 | Stanzilla | or so |
| 18:34.53 | nevcairiel | oh yeah i hated playing with 2 or more disc healers |
| 18:34.55 | wink | biggest resto druid problem is that I can't kill them |
| 18:35.10 | nevcairiel | screw them and not letting damage hit! |
| 18:35.23 | nevcairiel | i should play a lfr of the new raids one of these days |
| 18:35.39 | nevcairiel | or maybe of the old raids first to get more gear :P |
| 18:36.14 | Stanzilla | healing druid is OMG SO MANNY BUTTONZ now, nevcairiel |
| 18:36.21 | Stanzilla | even have to use those mini treants |
| 18:36.34 | nevcairiel | they havent really changed resto druids for a long time |
| 18:36.59 | Stanzilla | in my brain I just mapped everything to my priest spells |
| 18:37.57 | nevcairiel | its not all the terribly different |
| 18:38.11 | nevcairiel | you have your fast/cheap, fast/expensive, slow/heavy heals |
| 18:38.20 | nevcairiel | and a bunch more dots i suppose |
| 18:38.26 | nevcairiel | hots* |
| 18:38.42 | nevcairiel | man i really cant type for shit today |
| 18:39.23 | Repo | auracle: 03stanzilla * r142 Auracle.lua: holy crap, it works :o |
| 18:39.30 | Stanzilla | common problem :D |
| 18:41.02 | sb | Stanzilla: qq machine znf level? :D |
| 18:41.08 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 18:41.09 | sb | i like that %-) |
| 18:41.10 | Stanzilla | ALMOST |
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| 18:41.26 | Stanzilla | btw this could have been me https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/967059_10151474296711840_998747470_o.jpg |
| 18:41.37 | Stanzilla | if I had a gf, I'd do that |
| 18:41.49 | sb | thats why you dont have a gf |
| 18:42.04 | nevcairiel | thats kinda funny |
| 18:42.07 | Stanzilla | gf that can't take that of fun |
| 18:42.09 | Stanzilla | are not worth it |
| 18:42.13 | Stanzilla | *that kind |
| 18:42.36 | sb | Stanzilla: depends on history and maybe issues with (dis)honesty and stuff *shrug* |
| 18:42.47 | sb | but yes, its funny :D |
| 18:42.52 | Stanzilla | true |
| 18:43.41 | wink | lol |
| 18:44.20 | wink | when someone uses a line of "I haven't been fully honest" it usually resolves to "yes, I did eat all the cookies" |
| 18:45.01 | nevcairiel | she does overreact on the first line already, methinks |
| 18:45.13 | nevcairiel | or there is history of that kind |
| 18:45.18 | Stanzilla | just shwos that they have history on that |
| 18:45.21 | Stanzilla | damn u |
| 18:45.25 | wink | yeah, sonded really weird |
| 18:45.30 | nevcairiel | (maybe not between them, maybe between her and some previous guy) |
| 18:45.41 | Stanzilla | german pro typing crew today haha |
| 18:45.45 | nevcairiel | you know, issues go deep in the women |
| 18:45.51 | Stanzilla | like penis |
| 18:45.56 | Stanzilla | </fisker> |
| 18:45.58 | nevcairiel | not yours though |
| 18:46.07 | Stanzilla | haha |
| 18:46.30 | Stanzilla | last time I had sex was 1.5 years ago |
| 18:46.31 | Stanzilla | sad :( |
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| 18:47.04 | wink | Stanzilla: both your hands broken or what? |
| 18:47.16 | Stanzilla | haha |
| 18:47.49 | wink | man I'd love to be in the WildStar beta right now |
| 18:48.17 | Stanzilla | I really wanted to take a look at that because I heard so many good things about it |
| 18:48.31 | Stanzilla | like being clever and not trying to use a realistic look |
| 18:48.49 | Stanzilla | *them |
| 18:48.58 | nevcairiel | those always fail |
| 18:48.59 | wink | just because of their devspeak videos I'd buy it and give it a chance |
| 18:49.02 | nevcairiel | one thing i like about wow |
| 18:49.07 | nevcairiel | they just didnt try, and its good |
| 18:49.08 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 18:49.32 | Stanzilla | even If wow looks shit by now, it's always better than some half assed pseudo realistic shit that never meants my quality standards anyway |
| 18:49.41 | wink | yeah |
| 18:49.56 | wink | but I've never seen anyone dissign wow for lack of realism :P |
| 18:50.03 | wink | either you're ok with the look |
| 18:50.09 | znf | You don't read forums alot, do you? |
| 18:50.10 | wink | or you hate it for being comicky |
| 18:50.24 | wink | znf: no one whose opinion I'd accept, so forums are out per se |
| 18:50.43 | Stanzilla | znf: why would we. full of retards and I can imagine that 99% of those guys will never understand why wow looks like how it looks |
| 18:50.44 | wink | I'm not reading youtube comments either |
| 18:50.45 | znf | wink, it's enough to glance at mmo-c comments once in a while :D |
| 18:50.56 | wink | znf: my feed reader does not display those :D |
| 18:51.08 | nevcairiel | we have our own opinions, we dont need forums to steal the one of others |
| 18:51.22 | wink | Stanzilla: well, are the real reasons well-known? :P |
| 18:51.30 | Stanzilla | WoW just needs a polygon bump and it will be fine again :D |
| 18:51.45 | Stanzilla | wink: ass old engine, lack of devs (TM Ghostcrawler) |
| 18:51.53 | Stanzilla | AAAND |
| 18:51.54 | nevcairiel | the engine is showing its age, yea |
| 18:51.57 | Stanzilla | so many peple are used to the look |
| 18:52.01 | wink | Stanzilla: http://www.wowwiki.com/Warcraft_Adventures:_Lord_of_the_Clans :D |
| 18:52.05 | Stanzilla | they just don't want them to adjust to new shit |
| 18:52.06 | Stanzilla | like omg |
| 18:52.12 | Stanzilla | my mage looks different now |
| 18:52.28 | nevcairiel | people complained about the polygon bump in BC, it was hilarious |
| 18:52.28 | wink | can we get rid of blood elves then? |
| 18:52.37 | znf | 50% will say that it looks better |
| 18:52.47 | znf | 50% will say that OMG WOW IS NOW RUINED |
| 18:53.09 | sb | oh, znf is here again |
| 18:53.19 | znf | what do you mean, bitch? >_< |
| 18:53.38 | wink | the decline of the west is imminent |
| 18:53.38 | sb | hi :/ |
| 18:53.59 | Fisker | wwhy are you a jerk Stanzilla ? |
| 18:54.13 | Stanzilla | Fisker: disablity |
| 18:54.15 | znf | http://24.media.tumblr.com/efd56a3487ba74f273e5412d8f83563a/tumblr_mnetrmSkEa1s373hwo1_400.gif |
| 18:54.16 | wink | lol "The Lurker Below was going to be a Patch 5.3 battle pet, but it didn't look good when scaled down." |
| 18:54.24 | Fisker | oh ok Stanzilla |
| 18:54.26 | quiescens | i didn't really pay enough attention to notice this supposed change in BC |
| 18:54.34 | wink | quiescens: me neither |
| 18:54.45 | quiescens | i don't remember anyone complaining about it either |
| 18:55.05 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 18:55.14 | quiescens | gives wink a cookie |
| 18:55.29 | wink | omnomnoms |
| 19:03.24 | Stanzilla | http://mashable.com/2013/06/01/iphone-5s-concept/ |
| 19:03.25 | Stanzilla | ew |
| 19:03.56 | znf | ew |
| 19:04.05 | Stanzilla | does not look like an apple product at all |
| 19:04.16 | znf | looks completely horrible... for everything |
| 19:05.33 | Fisker | holy shit nevcairiel |
| 19:05.51 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gWHFahU9ZU |
| 19:05.52 | Fisker | !1 |
| 19:06.07 | wink | https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1ZxcfdHJBMw |
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| 19:07.35 | Stanzilla | Fisker: is that 4x pcie3/x16? |
| 19:07.56 | Fisker | idk |
| 19:09.09 | Fisker | :OOOOOOOOO |
| 19:09.16 | Fisker | built-in ramdisk support |
| 19:09.20 | Fisker | i think i want hat |
| 19:09.22 | Fisker | that |
| 19:10.12 | Stanzilla | dayum |
| 19:10.13 | wink | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:10.21 | wink | _| |_ |
| 19:10.26 | wink | here is hat, Fisker |
| 19:10.38 | Fisker | thanks for hat wink |
| 19:10.40 | Fisker | want b an? |
| 19:10.42 | Fisker | ban* |
| 19:10.50 | wink | moar b |
| 19:11.01 | Fisker | i will now refresh every computer site Stanzilla |
| 19:11.03 | Fisker | in the world |
| 19:12.00 | Stanzilla | hf |
| 19:12.45 | Fisker | it's x8/x16/x8/x8 btw Stanzilla |
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| 19:13.17 | Stanzilla | hrm |
| 19:13.18 | Stanzilla | meh |
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| 19:24.28 | sb | how does mainbaord ramdisk support work? |
| 19:24.50 | Repo | Updated wiki entry: Knowledge Base / Store / Author Reward Points - http://www.wowace.com/wiki/knowledge-base/store/author-reward-points/ |
| 19:27.31 | sb | okay, Fisker - $$$$$$? |
| 19:27.42 | sb | i want that |
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| 19:28.31 | Fisker | many $$$$$$ |
| 19:28.41 | Fisker | i think the old maximus was like 300-350€ |
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| 20:02.37 | nebula169 | http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/37484233.jpg |
| 20:08.27 | Fisker | 64Mb UEFI AMI BIOS, PnP, DMI2.0, WfM2.0, SM BIOS 2.5, ACPI2.0a Multi-Language BIOS |
| 20:08.31 | Fisker | does that upset you nevcairiel ? |
| 20:12.01 | nevcairiel | should it? |
| 20:13.40 | Fisker | i don't think so |
| 20:13.58 | Fisker | why don't they just get over with it and slap like a 256MB flash chip on there? |
| 20:14.21 | Fisker | on their previous motherboards they eventually had to strip features in order to support new cpu's and shit |
| 20:15.01 | wink | http://www.twitch.tv/dryaan |
| 20:15.20 | wink | the guy has 3 90 rogues with 512,517,532 ilvl. I'm jealous a little |
| 20:17.25 | Fisker | just on this channel instead nevcairiel |
| 20:17.26 | Fisker | derp |
| 20:17.40 | Fisker | damn |
| 20:17.47 | Fisker | the asrock version of maximus vi is fucking expensive |
| 20:18.00 | nevcairiel | the extreme6? |
| 20:18.14 | nevcairiel | or the fatality? |
| 20:19.08 | Fisker | asrock formula something |
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| 20:36.26 | Caleb| | wink and he is not even the one with the most geared alts in our guild |
| 20:36.51 | znf | Caleb|, did you guys ended up joining that GDKP run? |
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| 20:37.02 | Caleb| | znf I have no idea |
| 20:37.14 | znf | oh, ok :P |
| 20:37.24 | Caleb| | I try to do the bare minimum |
| 20:37.27 | Caleb| | :D |
| 20:37.48 | wink | Caleb|: it's not really about gearing. my second rogue is turning 86 right now because I hated levelling so much. :P |
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| 20:41.52 | wink | Caleb|: but don't people usually have those alts on the same server? especially if multiple raiding chars of same class. |
| 20:42.28 | Caleb| | yep, he is a trial tho |
| 20:43.45 | wink | shame on me for never having heard of Envy then probably :P |
| 21:06.35 | znf | bad wink |
| 21:09.00 | Gnarfoz | someone send me one (or ten) of these crazy bitcoin ASIC miners |
| 21:09.14 | znf | ASIC? |
| 21:10.51 | Gnarfoz | application specific integrated circuit |
| 21:12.09 | Gnarfoz | (i.e. the most efficient way to do something with ICs) |
| 21:12.50 | znf | So... what hardware do you have? |
| 21:13.07 | znf | woah, holy fuck |
| 21:13.09 | znf | that's expensive |
| 21:13.15 | znf | http://www.butterflylabs.com/ |
| 21:13.35 | Gnarfoz | well, that's just the biggest one they offer |
| 21:13.44 | Gnarfoz | (or rather, that particular manufacturer offers) |
| 21:14.09 | znf | looks for tech specs to see how much power it uses |
| 21:14.46 | Gnarfoz | quite a bit, but the amount of BTC you can mine with them easily pays for the power |
| 21:14.48 | znf | uh, that thing has a integrated Nexus 7 :o |
| 21:14.54 | Gnarfoz | the huge one, yeah |
| 21:14.59 | znf | well, can you mine that much anymore? |
| 21:15.16 | Gnarfoz | with these, yes |
| 21:15.25 | znf | Oh, BTCs are down to $128 |
| 21:15.43 | Gnarfoz | they've been mostly stable for a month now |
| 21:15.57 | Gnarfoz | http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/topcontributors.php |
| 21:16.00 | znf | So you're interested in investing in them? |
| 21:16.09 | Gnarfoz | investing? no, I'm not crazy |
| 21:16.19 | znf | thought so :P |
| 21:16.47 | Gnarfoz | but I'd certainly mine some if the delivery times weren't so bad for both the ASIC systems I know of |
| 21:16.57 | Gnarfoz | (the one you linked and Avalon ASICs is the other one) |
| 21:16.58 | znf | how cheap? |
| 21:17.04 | Gnarfoz | not cheap :D |
| 21:17.09 | znf | ok |
| 21:17.11 | znf | :-( |
| 21:17.21 | Gnarfoz | I think the Butterfly labs $274 one is the cheapest |
| 21:17.46 | znf | hmmm, how much is a latest-gen GPU mining? |
| 21:17.49 | Gnarfoz | which I could afford some of, maybe even the second smallest they have - but it wouldn't be worth it right now because if I ordered today, I'd get it in who knows how many months |
| 21:17.50 | znf | like that titan thingie |
| 21:17.55 | Gnarfoz | the have a BIG backlog |
| 21:18.32 | Gnarfoz | on that list I linked, those 65 GHash/s+ contributors are all running Avalon ASICs |
| 21:18.48 | znf | So what happens when everything is mined? |
| 21:18.52 | Gnarfoz | (there were like half the number of people with that high a hash rate a week ago) |
| 21:19.22 | Gnarfoz | that's still quite a while away, but when everything is mined, transaction fees will probably go up |
| 21:19.37 | Gnarfoz | s/probably go up/go through the roof/ |
| 21:19.38 | znf | I still think it's too volatile |
| 21:20.08 | wink | I hate that I didn't buy a bunch for 8$ |
| 21:20.14 | Gnarfoz | wink: yeah, who doesn't :D |
| 21:20.18 | wink | serves me well to bee to tightfisted about 100$ |
| 21:20.19 | wink | :P |
| 21:20.27 | znf | wish I had $100 5 months ago :P |
| 21:20.33 | wink | I can't spell today either |
| 21:20.34 | Gnarfoz | I know a guy who was so happy 4 years ago because he successfully ordered a pizza for like 150 BTC |
| 21:20.41 | wink | lol |
| 21:21.14 | znf | bet he kicks himself in the balls now |
| 21:21.17 | wink | Gnarfoz: well I think it's not THAT many people who really thought about dealing with BTC at the 10 EUR mark |
| 21:21.28 | Gnarfoz | certainly |
| 21:21.31 | wink | Gnarfoz: I mean.. compared to the exposure it got at 200 |
| 21:21.38 | znf | I still don't understand why it gained up so much |
| 21:21.43 | wink | me neither |
| 21:21.49 | Gnarfoz | I knew of it in 2009 but didn't believe it would ever take off :D |
| 21:21.51 | wink | I thought 8 => 20 |
| 21:21.54 | wink | not worth the hassle |
| 21:22.11 | znf | I heard about it in 2010 or 2011, was like, "meh, not covering the power costs to mine them" |
| 21:22.12 | wink | but I didnt think it safe enough to waste 100$ :P |
| 21:22.23 | Gnarfoz | wink: and that's the gamble :D |
| 21:22.26 | wink | yup |
| 21:22.44 | Gnarfoz | most efficient way to get BTC: steal some |
| 21:22.46 | wink | but when I look at the rates of my bank account |
| 21:22.53 | wink | I should've just invested :P |
| 21:22.55 | znf | oh god, I need to change my PC badly... this 1xDVI 1xVGA is making me OCD |
| 21:22.59 | Gnarfoz | indeed wink, indeed |
| 21:23.25 | znf | Gnarfoz, nah, most efficient way is to make trojans that install the miner on unsuspecting victims PCs |
| 21:23.36 | Gnarfoz | you're wrong |
| 21:23.39 | Gnarfoz | that's a LOT more work :p |
| 21:23.44 | znf | Not really |
| 21:23.50 | znf | I found one installed on a friend's PC |
| 21:23.56 | Gnarfoz | start an online wallet service and make off with it :D |
| 21:24.07 | znf | Was really simple done and implemented |
| 21:24.09 | Gnarfoz | yeah, you talked about it before |
| 21:24.11 | znf | Not even trying to hide itself :D |
| 21:24.13 | Gnarfoz | (I think) |
| 21:24.34 | Gnarfoz | there's also modified GPU drivers around that include GPU miners :D |
| 21:24.39 | wink | installing is too hard |
| 21:24.44 | wink | just use some JS thingy |
| 21:24.51 | wink | and slowly leech off the pennies |
| 21:24.53 | znf | Even found one on my mom's PC, but her pc didn't have a good enough GPU to run it, and it was crashing =)) |
| 21:24.58 | wink | off their dyin macbooks |
| 21:25.49 | wink | I'm so bored today I have to force myself to not read work email after 2 weeks of vacation |
| 21:25.53 | wink | what's wrong with me? |
| 21:26.26 | znf | well, I'm at work |
| 21:26.38 | znf | and I have nothing to do, it's 12:30am, and I don't feel like going home |
| 21:27.00 | znf | I'm actually upgrading a coworker's iphone... |
| 21:27.21 | wink | http://bkase.github.io/CUDA-grep/finalreport.html |
| 21:27.40 | znf | that's... interesting |
| 21:28.11 | znf | Our regular expression file was 2000 lines of the same regular expression. |
| 21:28.14 | znf | *blink* |
| 21:29.14 | znf | wonders if the iPhone will boot |
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| 21:49.13 | Fisker | so Stanzilla |
| 21:49.25 | Fisker | got googledevs om YouTube? |
| 21:51.40 | znf | Fisker - I'm lazy. Should I swap my old sempron with 2GB ram with a C2D with 4gb ram? |
| 21:51.48 | Fisker | no |
| 21:51.57 | Fisker | i7 |
| 21:52.04 | znf | Fisker, *free C2D |
| 21:52.13 | Fisker | i7 |
| 21:52.21 | znf | Fisker, give me your i7 for free then |
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| 21:52.32 | Fisker | anyway obviously yes |
| 21:52.47 | Fisker | are you in need znf? |
| 21:54.14 | Fisker | OK |
| 22:00.13 | znf | Fisker, ofc I am in need :( |
| 22:03.55 | Fisker | too late |
| 22:06.43 | nevcairiel | Fisker: still no prices for asus boards |
| 22:08.24 | nevcairiel | oh i found some |
| 22:08.33 | nevcairiel | deluxe for 236, no ws yet though |
| 22:11.24 | Fisker | maximus vi is basically 400€ here |
| 22:12.18 | Fisker | i'm a bad person |
| 22:12.43 | Fisker | hah |
| 22:12.48 | Fisker | board not in stock for another 3 weeks |
| 22:13.14 | nevcairiel | that would suck :P |
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| 22:18.24 | Fisker | i can wait |
| 22:18.29 | Fisker | I'm still waiting on my new case |
| 22:18.55 | nevcairiel | most people _can_ wait, unless their pc is broken, but we don't want to! |
| 22:19.17 | Fisker | Well i don't think i want to assemble it in this shitty midtower case |
| 22:19.25 | Fisker | so even if i did get it i would probably just wait for the case |
| 22:19.50 | nevcairiel | i'm ready to assemble it once i have all the parts |
| 22:20.05 | Fisker | yay |
| 22:20.09 | Fisker | i got grid 2 for free! |
| 22:20.19 | Fisker | well |
| 22:20.28 | Fisker | i got grid 2 for 400€ |
| 22:20.30 | Fisker | :P |
| 22:20.54 | nevcairiel | @curse grid2 |
| 22:20.54 | Repo | nevcairiel: Grid2: http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/grid2 |
| 22:20.54 | Fisker | actually probably closer to 329 or 349€ |
| 22:20.58 | nevcairiel | free grid2 ^ |
| 22:22.32 | Fisker | another shop has the maximus vi written down for june 5th though |
| 22:22.46 | nevcairiel | you really want the maximus? why? |
| 22:23.11 | Fisker | why not? |
| 22:23.22 | Fisker | it free wifi |
| 22:23.24 | Fisker | it has |
| 22:24.02 | Fisker | i need a comparison list |
| 22:24.12 | nevcairiel | because its stupid expensive for some oddball extra features |
| 22:25.26 | Fisker | you looked at the pro right? |
| 22:25.33 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 22:25.40 | nevcairiel | but i would rather take the ws now |
| 22:25.52 | Fisker | not in stock |
| 22:26.12 | Fisker | not even in the list |
| 22:26.18 | nevcairiel | yeah nto yet |
| 22:26.27 | nevcairiel | if it doesnt show up i may change my mind |
| 22:29.47 | Fisker | kpls |
| 22:29.50 | Fisker | no ramdisk support |
| 22:30.02 | Fisker | i'd actually rather want the pro over the WS |
| 22:30.03 | nevcairiel | wtf does bios ramdisk even mean |
| 22:30.24 | Fisker | lol |
| 22:30.27 | Fisker | the ws has firewire |
| 22:30.30 | Fisker | FIREWIRE |
| 22:30.53 | nevcairiel | firewire is still used by some cameras, if any board gets it, the ws makes sense |
| 22:31.55 | nevcairiel | none of the boards is just perfect |
| 22:32.13 | Fisker | fuck it, i'm getting the pro |
| 22:32.42 | Fisker | or am i? |
| 22:33.01 | Fisker | I'm not sure if that heatsink will be friendly with my noctua |
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| 22:34.21 | Fisker | well i can always upgrade my parents pc if it turns out i need a new board |
| 22:34.22 | Fisker | LOL |
| 22:34.26 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 22:34.59 | nevcairiel | hm the heatsink does indeed seem to be rather big |
| 22:35.30 | Fisker | i hope my bank didn't close my card because i just ordered for like 1500€ in rapid succession |
| 22:35.56 | Fisker | doesn't seem like i did |
| 22:36.07 | Fisker | z87-pro + 4770k inc |
| 22:36.20 | nevcairiel | i thought you didnt need it right away anyway |
| 22:37.06 | Fisker | didn't you say something about we didn't want to wait anyway? :D |
| 22:37.51 | Fisker | to be honest |
| 22:37.56 | Fisker | this computer is noisy as fuck |
| 22:38.18 | Fisker | I'll probably be running it on stock fan the next couple of weeks just to get the computer to shut the fuck up |
| 22:39.20 | Fisker | basically nevcairiel |
| 22:39.29 | Fisker | the z87-pro is identical with the maximus |
| 22:39.40 | nevcairiel | just no ROG shit? :p |
| 22:39.43 | Fisker | except the oc panel, bios features and the detachable wifi thing |
| 22:40.11 | Fisker | well actually |
| 22:40.15 | Fisker | has more pcie lanes naturally |
| 22:41.18 | nevcairiel | hm no pro yet in my favorite shops |
| 22:41.55 | nevcairiel | only deluxe and plus |
| 22:42.33 | Fisker | but basically take and compare the pro and maximus vi |
| 22:42.49 | Fisker | http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/MAXIMUS_VI_EXTREME/ |
| 22:42.56 | Fisker | http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z87PRO/ |
| 22:43.05 | Fisker | of course the mosfets and shit are probably lower grade |
| 22:43.06 | Fisker | but wtf |
| 22:43.11 | Fisker | this shit won't overclock anyway |
| 22:43.56 | nevcairiel | silly onboard wifi on the pro doesnt even do ac |
| 22:44.16 | Fisker | zero fucks |
| 22:44.25 | Fisker | first thing i'll do is disable wifi |
| 22:44.57 | Fisker | i don't even want the device in my device manager |
| 22:45.04 | nevcairiel | same |
| 22:45.13 | nevcairiel | second: same thing for fucking bluetooh |
| 22:45.15 | nevcairiel | +t |
| 22:45.29 | Fisker | i wonder why there's no thunderbolt this time around |
| 22:45.40 | nevcairiel | the deluxe/dual has thunderbolt |
| 22:45.45 | Fisker | hmm |
| 22:45.51 | Fisker | as i recall the z77 maximus had thunderbolt too |
| 22:45.57 | nevcairiel | http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z87DELUXEDUAL |
| 22:45.58 | Fisker | but no such luck on the z87 |
| 22:46.06 | Fisker | i guess zero fucks to be had |
| 22:47.08 | nevcairiel | comparison of the two boards indeed makes them quite similar |
| 22:47.26 | nevcairiel | anyhow, i also have a PRO right now, and the feature set stays similar over the generations |
| 22:47.54 | Fisker | the onboard ramdisk thing would've been cool though |
| 22:48.01 | nevcairiel | now i only need to figure out how high i'll go with ram |
| 22:48.07 | nevcairiel | probably stay with 2133 |
| 22:48.12 | Fisker | wow |
| 22:48.14 | Fisker | :P |
| 22:48.20 | Fisker | I got these cheapass 1333 |
| 22:48.22 | nevcairiel | it gets fucking expensive over that |
| 22:48.24 | Fisker | i believe |
| 22:48.34 | nevcairiel | native speed on haswell is 1600 already |
| 22:48.55 | Fisker | does support 1333 though right? |
| 22:48.58 | znf | So... I've never had an xbox. |
| 22:48.58 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 22:49.17 | znf | How do I connect a kinect to it? I only have an "i/o" port next to the ethernet one on the back, which, ofcourse, I can't fit the kinect in |
| 22:50.01 | nevcairiel | its a usb cable, isnt it |
| 22:50.19 | znf | the connector looks like USB, but it's orange and has a cut corner |
| 22:50.44 | znf | I think they sent me the wrong xbox/kinect pair :( |
| 22:51.06 | Fisker | man |
| 22:51.07 | nevcairiel | http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-360/kinect/kinect-sensor-setup |
| 22:51.08 | nevcairiel | go read |
| 22:51.10 | Fisker | there's some cheap rams nevcairiel |
| 22:51.15 | Fisker | but they got a fucking heatsink |
| 22:51.17 | nevcairiel | ram is generally rather cheap |
| 22:51.18 | Fisker | GET THE FUCK OUT |
| 22:51.40 | znf | Yeah, clearly I have the wrong combo. My kinect doesn't have a power adapter. |
| 22:51.43 | Fisker | i thought frequencies weren't generally that well though? |
| 22:51.49 | Fisker | I always thought cas latencies meant more |
| 22:51.57 | nevcairiel | combination of both = awesome |
| 22:52.12 | nevcairiel | i was looking at G.Skill RipJawsZ DIMM Kit 32GB PC3-17066U CL9 |
| 22:52.20 | nevcairiel | only a small heat spreader, no big fins |
| 22:52.43 | Fisker | how is that even possible? |
| 22:52.51 | Fisker | why do those fuckers never sell anything here? |
| 22:53.01 | Arrowmaster | znf: pics please |
| 22:53.18 | znf | Arrowmaster, big white bulky xbox + kinect sensor with purple connector |
| 22:53.33 | nevcairiel | isnt the xbox a curved black box? :D |
| 22:53.42 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 22:53.58 | nevcairiel | znf got the chinese knock-off |
| 22:54.00 | Fisker | there's a ripjaws z here nevcairiel |
| 22:54.01 | znf | mine's big bulky white :D, not the slim version |
| 22:54.06 | Fisker | but they're cl11 |
| 22:54.15 | Fisker | and i still think the heatsink is too big |
| 22:54.15 | nevcairiel | yeah there is different models |
| 22:54.29 | Fisker | link me yours |
| 22:54.33 | znf | well, not mine, corporate sent it over |
| 22:55.00 | znf | It's this one: http://photos.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/xbox-360.jpg |
| 22:55.47 | Arrowmaster | corporate who |
| 22:55.58 | nevcairiel | Fisker: http://en.gskill.com/en/product/f3-2133c9q-32gzh |
| 22:56.04 | Arrowmaster | but yeah it sounds like you have a kinect for the slim console |
| 22:56.08 | znf | Arrowmaster, the "mother" company :P |
| 22:56.12 | Fisker | thanks for crashing quassel |
| 22:56.19 | nevcairiel | no problems |
| 22:56.28 | Fisker | same heatsink on the ones i saw |
| 22:56.32 | Fisker | except those were red |
| 22:56.37 | Arrowmaster | znf: they sent you the wrong stuff, you need to send it back i guess |
| 22:56.41 | Fisker | I still think they're actually too high for the noctua cooler :( |
| 22:56.53 | nevcairiel | its like 2cm of heatsink |
| 22:56.58 | znf | Arrowmaster, I'm guessing they'll send over the 5 remaining ones and I'll eventually manage to get all the parts together :P |
| 22:57.30 | nevcairiel | which noctua cooler anyway? |
| 22:57.35 | nevcairiel | i was also looking into buying one |
| 22:57.42 | nevcairiel | Noctua NH-U12S specifically |
| 22:57.55 | nevcairiel | it looks roomy enough for heatsinks |
| 22:58.13 | nevcairiel | but its also not the biggest they have |
| 22:58.13 | Arrowmaster | znf: just read somewhere that the kinect that comes bundled with the slim console is only for the slim consoles |
| 22:58.32 | znf | Arrowmaster, yeah, so either I need a power adapter or they sent me the wrong one :D |
| 22:59.05 | Arrowmaster | they say you can find instructions on how to build an adapter to convert it to usb |
| 22:59.24 | znf | inventory item, fuck that, I'm not touching a soldering iron |
| 23:00.11 | znf | I've already got my ass spanked today for installing "non compliant" batteries in the keycard locks |
| 23:00.14 | Arrowmaster | wait a sec |
| 23:00.36 | nevcairiel | they also sell adapters |
| 23:00.44 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 23:00.46 | Arrowmaster | http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/productID.253690100 |
| 23:00.49 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats it |
| 23:01.02 | znf | nevcairiel, yeah I noticed... though I still have to make the papers to justify buying something new |
| 23:01.08 | znf | so I'll just pass and wait for the next batch |
| 23:01.19 | Arrowmaster | you probably have some, you just havent gotten them |
| 23:01.25 | znf | Indeed |
| 23:01.58 | znf | Hmm, I guess I could try to load up some XBLA games |
| 23:02.04 | znf | I wonder how do I do that |
| 23:02.24 | Arrowmaster | do you have any games? |
| 23:02.35 | znf | I have Kinect Sports :D |
| 23:03.10 | nevcairiel | bu no kinect |
| 23:03.12 | nevcairiel | +t |
| 23:03.16 | znf | nevcairiel, pretty much :D |
| 23:03.23 | znf | I thought I was going to have some fun tonight... Guess not |
| 23:07.15 | znf | Arrowmaster, any moding experience with these toys? |
| 23:13.06 | Fisker | btw nevcairiel |
| 23:13.09 | Fisker | those ripjaws |
| 23:13.15 | Fisker | they're cl9/11/11? |
| 23:13.28 | nevcairiel | 9/11/10 i think |
| 23:13.38 | Fisker | maybe |
| 23:13.48 | Fisker | but most memory is 9/9/9 isn't it? |
| 23:13.55 | Fisker | also i got the d14 |
| 23:13.57 | nevcairiel | only the low frequency |
| 23:13.59 | Fisker | not even sure if it fits yet |
| 23:14.05 | Fisker | but it should i guess |
| 23:14.24 | nevcairiel | the lowest true 9-9-9 i see is 1866 |
| 23:14.31 | nevcairiel | above the latencys go down a bit |
| 23:14.39 | nevcairiel | but more raw speed compensates |
| 23:14.58 | Fisker | would 1866 9/9/9 be better than 2133 9/11/10? |
| 23:15.24 | nevcairiel | there was a memory OC article a while back that compared frequency vs latency |
| 23:15.28 | nevcairiel | maybe i can find it again |
| 23:17.57 | nevcairiel | the point is that those latencys are in clock cycles |
| 23:18.12 | nevcairiel | if you can increase the clock enough, it doesnt matter that it needs one more cycle |
| 23:21.13 | nevcairiel | Fisker: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/ivy-bridge-ddr3_3.html |
| 23:21.22 | nevcairiel | they compared 1866 cl9 to 2133 cl11, among other things |
| 23:22.34 | Fisker | seems like a somewhat insignificant difference |
| 23:23.14 | nevcairiel | their conclusion is that clock rate > timings |
| 23:23.40 | Fisker | yeah |
| 23:23.51 | Fisker | i just mean in generally it doesn't seem to make a big difference :P |
| 23:24.10 | nevcairiel | the best value is probably at 1866 right now |
| 23:24.18 | nevcairiel | abvoe that the difference gets even more insignificant |
| 23:24.20 | Fisker | but ok |
| 23:24.32 | Fisker | well i am after all running 1333 |
| 23:24.44 | Fisker | so a step up to 1866 or 2133 could be significant |
| 23:24.56 | nevcairiel | in overall system performance, probably not |
| 23:25.04 | nevcairiel | but it makes one feel better |
| 23:25.08 | Fisker | and the money i saved on getting the z87 pro can be used on more memory :P |
| 23:25.24 | Fisker | besides, i'm pretty sure my parents can use 32GB of RAM |
| 23:25.31 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 23:26.11 | Fisker | when i upgraded to 32GB |
| 23:26.17 | Fisker | they were building a server at work |
| 23:26.22 | Fisker | like workstation board with a xeon |
| 23:26.24 | Fisker | and 4GB of ram |
| 23:26.29 | Fisker | so i gave them 16GB |
| 23:26.31 | Fisker | D: |
| 23:26.31 | nevcairiel | thats terrible |
| 23:26.37 | Fisker | yeah |
| 23:26.49 | Fisker | no moneys |
| 23:27.10 | Fisker | technically speaking i feel bad for them |
| 23:27.28 | Fisker | because i got them to buy a new cpu because i thought the old one didn't work without an update |
| 23:27.29 | Fisker | D: |
| 23:27.51 | Fisker | turns out that asus made the dimm channels like this: 1_2 1_1 2_2 2_1 |
| 23:28.01 | Fisker | and since they had 2x2GB |
| 23:28.08 | Fisker | i put them in 1_2 and 2_2 |
| 23:28.09 | Fisker | derp |
| 23:28.19 | Fisker | and that made the motherboard not post |
| 23:28.26 | nevcairiel | odd |
| 23:28.31 | Fisker | yeah |
| 23:28.32 | nevcairiel | usually its ABAB |
| 23:28.58 | Fisker | was totally sure it was the cpu not booting :( |
| 23:29.16 | Fisker | fortunately it was only like some weird workstation celeron for no money or something like that |
| 23:33.00 | znf | I think my intel mobo is AABB |
| 23:33.21 | znf | I remember about it complaining that it's running single channel mode last time I forgot that... |
| 23:34.43 | Fisker | 1333MHz to 2133MHz apparently adds about 10GB/s to transfer rates :o |
| 23:35.01 | Fisker | though pretty much zero performance difference in games anyway |
| 23:35.06 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 23:35.15 | nevcairiel | might only help with very memory intensive tasks |
| 23:35.19 | nevcairiel | like compressing shit with 7z |
| 23:35.27 | Fisker | :D |
| 23:35.32 | Fisker | i'll keep memory |
| 23:36.24 | nevcairiel | I'm not sure yet, i kinda want to expand to 32 gb, so i need new memory because i have 4x4 right now |
| 23:36.50 | Fisker | ah |
| 23:36.52 | nevcairiel | at least its 1600 already |
| 23:36.56 | Fisker | 32GB is chump change |
| 23:37.00 | nevcairiel | and not 1333 :P |
| 23:37.25 | Fisker | got the only non-heatsink memory i could get :P |
| 23:37.36 | Fisker | or non-tailfin memory i guess is more accurate |
| 23:37.40 | Fisker | it still has a heatsink :P |
| 23:37.40 | znf | stop running so many VMs, Fisker |
| 23:38.00 | nevcairiel | yeah any modern memory comes at least with heat spreaders |
| 23:38.46 | nevcairiel | well maybe i'll keep it for now and change my mind later |
| 23:38.51 | Fisker | the old corsair ax series doesn't support the new c-states right? |
| 23:38.53 | nevcairiel | dont need it right away |
| 23:39.01 | nevcairiel | there was a list somewhere.. |
| 23:39.15 | Fisker | corsair had one |
| 23:39.17 | nevcairiel | http://www.corsair.com/us/blog/haswell-compatibility-with-corsair-power-supplies/ |
| 23:39.30 | Fisker | yeah |
| 23:39.56 | Fisker | wait i think mine was hx |
| 23:40.21 | nevcairiel | silver and gold are also OK, the other ones are apparently still validating |
| 23:40.42 | Fisker | yeah |
| 23:40.57 | Fisker | i think mine is legacy bronze |
| 23:41.03 | Fisker | 3½ years old |
| 23:41.33 | Fisker | oh actually |
| 23:41.36 | Fisker | can't :P |
| 23:41.40 | Fisker | because they don't have 850w |
| 23:41.49 | Fisker | was interested in the AX760i though |
| 23:43.50 | Fisker | man |
| 23:43.52 | Fisker | i get to download grid 2 |
| 23:43.54 | Fisker | for freeeeeeeeeeee |
| 23:43.59 | *** join/#wowace pompy (~Mike@c-68-38-56-4.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 23:45.07 | znf | ok. |
| 23:50.27 | nevcairiel | i wonder if this digital power supply stuff is really worth something or just BS |
| 23:54.13 | Arrowmaster | they are always advertising new power stuff, its probably an advancement but dont think its as much as they claim |
| 23:58.55 | nevcairiel | reviews seem to think its great |
| 23:59.02 | nevcairiel | although expensive |