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00:28.49 | Primer | bah, SavedInstances is still broken |
00:28.56 | Primer | now it's not tracking galleon |
00:29.05 | Primer | and sha |
00:29.18 | durcyn | reload your ui |
00:29.36 | Primer | I went from one toon to another |
00:29.47 | Primer | still not showing that I did sha on the toon I left |
00:29.59 | Primer | even though I just killed it |
00:31.52 | durcyn | yes, the kill detection is broken, but it works on load. the only quest that's actually broken is oondasta |
00:32.18 | Primer | surely loading a new toon constitutes a "load"? |
00:32.33 | durcyn | christ, man, think about it for a minute, the quests are character specific |
00:32.37 | Primer | ok, I think I see what you mean |
00:35.58 | MysticalOS | the quest returns are broken |
00:36.03 | MysticalOS | for all 4 of them |
00:36.07 | znf | since when? |
00:36.11 | MysticalOS | the hidden weekly quest for the bosses returns false, always |
00:36.13 | znf | only Oondasta was broken |
00:36.21 | MysticalOS | none of them worked for me last week |
00:37.02 | MysticalOS | i even killed boss again just to see if it actually reset, it didn't. the quest return was just incorrect |
00:38.45 | MysticalOS | hmm |
00:38.50 | MysticalOS | it's actually working at the moment |
00:39.04 | MysticalOS | on an alt that killed nalak and oondoasta but not sha or galleon |
00:39.10 | MysticalOS | <PROTECTED> |
00:39.13 | MysticalOS | returned yes yes no no |
00:43.59 | znf | it's bugged |
00:44.10 | znf | when you kill nalak, the quest flag for oondasta gets marked, too |
00:44.14 | znf | if I remember corectly |
00:46.42 | MysticalOS | hard to say. hell my oondasta is really bugged this week anyways |
00:47.29 | MysticalOS | i dced on a monday kill and i still got credit when i logged back in. that was normal. the wierd thing is, i logged back out. I login tuesday, and a bonus roll popped up for oondasta |
00:47.41 | MysticalOS | from the monday kill |
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03:53.06 | MysticalOS | lol |
03:53.31 | nebula169 | totally killed him in berserk with ever conduit fully leveled |
03:53.35 | MysticalOS | 4 total bouncing bolts, one in each second. the tank knockback was like 2 yeards |
03:53.35 | nebula169 | every* |
03:53.40 | nebula169 | yea |
03:53.43 | MysticalOS | section* |
03:53.51 | MysticalOS | killed lu'lin in phase 1 |
03:53.57 | MysticalOS | started phase 4 |
03:54.05 | nebula169 | lol |
03:54.30 | MysticalOS | immediately she drops dead, suen comes out, no day phase abilities, no dusk phase, just phase 4 suen with no abilities |
03:55.09 | MysticalOS | i noticed in LFR the bouncing bolt timing was a little off |
03:55.12 | nebula169 | lol, doesn't even do the charge? |
03:55.18 | MysticalOS | no |
03:55.19 | MysticalOS | nothing |
03:55.23 | MysticalOS | just radiance |
03:55.28 | MysticalOS | no tank swaps |
03:55.39 | MysticalOS | same as normal if you kill lu'lin first |
03:55.44 | MysticalOS | go back to day but with no abilities |
03:55.46 | nebula169 | ah |
03:56.00 | MysticalOS | although on normal you'd actually wipe if suen was at 100% |
03:56.07 | MysticalOS | to do achievement you kinda get her low first |
03:56.22 | MysticalOS | on normal we have gotten lu'lin to 3% before, but never killed her |
03:56.27 | MysticalOS | now we know that'd be very bad |
03:56.36 | nebula169 | yea, same, i think our best push was right around 3% |
03:57.24 | MysticalOS | i always thought she'd go to 1hp, so you could still get ice commets for day phase. but nope, just drops dead, no comets, just radiance soft enrage with a full health suen |
04:04.34 | znf | we actually got the achievement by accident |
04:05.01 | znf | think it was bugged, though |
04:05.18 | Fisker | Stanzilla |
04:05.21 | Fisker | ol |
04:05.33 | Fisker | with a d |
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07:18.02 | quiescens | pats repo |
07:23.12 | sb | morning |
07:24.23 | quiescens | moo |
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07:48.42 | Repo | LeiShen: show one bar instead of multiple target bars for Overcharge and do the same for Static Shock in normal/LFR |
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08:06.57 | Repo | atlasloot-enhanced: 03dynaletik * r4191 / (3 files in 3 directories): - living sandling seems to drop from council LFR |
08:06.57 | Repo | - loottables.lua update |
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08:47.45 | Stanzilla | those fucking calendar invites |
08:49.29 | Repo | big-wigs_common-auras: 03_yusaku_ * r226 CommonAuras.lua: itIT Locale update |
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09:13.36 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: is the calendar api protected? |
09:13.45 | Stanzilla | or can you delete every invite with the word "x" in it? |
09:18.00 | sb | where is your gastfreund Stanzilla? |
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09:26.57 | Stanzilla | :D sb |
09:34.18 | Stanzilla | something new for Fisker to try out http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/4890174/condom-snorting-the-vile-and-deadly-new-internet-trend.html |
09:43.33 | Fisker | retarded fad |
09:43.37 | Fisker | unless there's cum in it |
09:44.33 | sb | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_rSMP2o_gY |
09:44.58 | sb | wtf is this Stanzilla :/ and WHY |
09:47.14 | Stanzilla | yeah dunno |
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10:15.00 | Stanzilla | holy shit lei shen lfr |
10:18.25 | bluspacecow | Stan! |
10:18.34 | bluspacecow | did you find that macro to delete calender spam yet ? |
10:18.48 | Stanzilla | nope |
10:18.54 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/8568990024#6 |
10:19.05 | Stanzilla | oh cool |
10:19.06 | Stanzilla | thanks |
10:19.10 | bluspacecow | original source was the EU forums way back in 2011 IIRC |
11:00.31 | sb | Stanzilla: holy shit why? |
11:00.41 | sb | worse than duruwhatevermu |
11:05.15 | Stanzilla | sb: yes |
11:05.21 | Stanzilla | at least we had tanks that knew shit |
11:05.23 | nebula169 | my completely random group one-shot it, l2raidlead |
11:05.43 | Stanzilla | first pull was like OK GUYS ILL PULL |
11:06.08 | Stanzilla | after that, "ah ok, you guys might not know this fight, don't stand in bad spots and run into good spots" |
11:06.12 | Stanzilla | ô,ô |
11:06.18 | Stanzilla | third try was the kill |
11:26.31 | Megalon | 1x14 -- Apr 15, 2013 -- POSTPONED Pre-empted with news coverage of the Boston Marathon bombings |
11:26.45 | Megalon | that's it, fuck you mr bostonbomber |
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11:57.46 | Repo | tradeskill-info: 03ethancentaurai * r587 Locale/koKR.lua: koKR update. |
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12:11.45 | Fisker | i wonder why they re-enabled calendar invites from trial accounts |
12:12.32 | nebula169 | china infiltrated some interns at blizzard |
12:12.59 | Funkeh` | Fisker, you sure that's what they did? |
12:13.10 | Fisker | dunno |
12:13.30 | Fisker | i read a post on the eu forums that they changed the faq to say that they didn't allow that anymore |
12:14.28 | Fisker | Hey guys, the eagle eyed amongst you may have noticed a change to our Starter Edition FAQ today: |
12:14.28 | Fisker | Cannot trade, create or join guilds, invite players into a party, create calendar invites or disable experience gains |
12:14.28 | Fisker | This step has been taken to combat these spam calendar invites. If there are still some on your calendar then a manually typed /ignore playername command will remove all pending calendar invites from said player. |
12:15.08 | Fisker | And I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have been stupid enough to leave that enabled for like 2-3 years |
12:16.29 | Funkeh` | yeah that's odd |
12:16.42 | Funkeh` | because last time this was an issue during cata they suddenly fixed it |
12:16.51 | Funkeh` | and I assumed it was something to do with trial accounts |
12:27.17 | quiescens | moo? |
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13:00.55 | sb | ewww Stanzilla internets master |
13:01.27 | sb | there was a kitten cam some months ago (~10 + mother), do you know the url? :p |
13:04.44 | Kalroth | http://www.ustream.tv/ffrc this? |
13:06.21 | Kalroth | http://animal.discovery.com/tv-shows/too-cute/games-more/kitten-cam.htm or this?! |
13:08.20 | sb | not sure, but i think its the 2nd url |
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13:23.22 | Repo | Loader: also send a version query on enable, should fix issues with joining a group then zoning, which kills your ability to receive addon comms during the loading process. |
13:44.08 | Repo | big-wigs: 03_yusaku_ * r10799 ThroneOfThunder/Locales/itIT.lua: itIT Locale updates |
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15:29.26 | Stanzilla | hugs Funkeh` |
15:31.29 | Stanzilla | I was at the hospital today and told my doc that these new meds are totally killing me |
15:31.34 | Stanzilla | her answer was that I have to get used to it |
15:31.35 | Stanzilla | YAY |
15:39.51 | nevcairiel | go snort a condom and relax |
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15:40.33 | Stanzilla | haha |
15:42.18 | Torhal|work | So basically, Stanzilla, a woman told you to man up? |
15:42.27 | Stanzilla | yes |
15:42.45 | Torhal|work | Oh, ok. |
15:44.05 | Stanzilla | problim officer? |
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16:18.19 | Stanzilla | stuf unit frames is weird |
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16:19.26 | durcyn | i wouldn't use anything totalpackage wrote |
16:19.32 | Stanzilla | why |
16:22.11 | Gnarfoz | because he's a total package |
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16:27.19 | pompy | yeah why!? |
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16:27.50 | Repo | ThroneOfThunder/Trash: Add Thunder Lord "Conductive Shield" and Rocky Horror "Horrifying Roar" cooldowns. |
16:30.25 | znf | Stanzilla, someone tell him about this: "You cannot right-click Stuf's player buff icon to cancel shape-shift forms (ie. druid forms and shadow form) since they're protected now. |
16:30.25 | znf | " |
16:30.42 | znf | wasn't that unprotected in 5.2 again or something like that? |
16:31.01 | durcyn | no |
16:31.17 | znf | I know SuF can do it, something about protected headers and such? |
16:33.58 | znf | Scumbag jQuery.backstretch kills the browser :( |
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16:43.49 | Stanzilla | I don't give a shit |
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17:06.14 | Stanzilla | I GM just wrote me a heart |
17:06.14 | Stanzilla | I think she/he loves me |
17:09.48 | Gnarfoz | obviously |
17:10.51 | Repo | big-wigs: 03jongt23 * r10808 / (2 files in 2 directories): esES update |
17:12.48 | Stanzilla | uhh |
17:12.51 | Stanzilla | start8 update |
17:12.53 | Stanzilla | "Optionally view the taskbar when using the full screen Windows 8-style menu" |
17:12.54 | Stanzilla | nais |
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17:18.46 | Gnarfoz | the shit menu |
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17:24.38 | durcyn | i like how microsoft buckled and made metro optional in 8.1 |
17:29.37 | Ackis | I honestly don't understand why everyone HATES metro |
17:29.42 | Ackis | it has its uses |
17:30.01 | Ackis | the integrated calendar used to be good, the mail client is wicked |
17:30.11 | nebula169 | i use it for random stuff, calendar and weather |
17:30.47 | Ackis | the calendar was better until they turned off google calendar integration the twats |
17:30.47 | nebula169 | win+tabbing through the windows is quick to get between them and back to the desktop |
17:32.41 | durcyn | you're actually using outlook express, ackis, is that what you're telling me |
17:33.00 | durcyn | it's a good thing i didn't have any respect for you in the first place, or that'd be gone now |
17:34.35 | Ackis | outlook express was good back in the day |
17:35.31 | durcyn | because any mail client that automatically renders all content using internet explorer at default security levels is amaaaaazing |
17:36.12 | Megalon | renders durcyn using Fisker |
17:36.13 | Ackis | don't you remember when IE used to be good? |
17:36.31 | durcyn | the last version of IE i even looked at crosseyed was 4.0 |
17:36.51 | Ackis | yeah I'm talking about the first version |
17:37.02 | Ackis | which was 3 wasn't it? |
17:37.06 | durcyn | oh, you mean back when it was called NCSA Mosaic |
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17:39.20 | Stanzilla | they did not durcyn |
17:39.59 | durcyn | http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/16/4229900/windows-8-1-boot-to-desktop-option |
17:40.31 | Stanzilla | turned out it was for Kiosk mode |
17:41.25 | Funkeh` | everything is speculation |
17:41.35 | Funkeh` | until it releases |
17:44.12 | Stanzilla | nom nom speculatius |
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18:10.47 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: how's your picogroup fork going? mine has some bugs again, apparently |
18:11.41 | durcyn | only thing i noticed is occasionally loot method retuns bogus shit during zoning, should be sorted in current head |
18:13.06 | Gnarfoz | mine is using SetRaidDifficulty which doesn't exist |
18:13.10 | Gnarfoz | did they change those *again*? |
18:13.18 | nebula169 | add ID to the end |
18:13.19 | Gnarfoz | or maybe I reverted to some shit old version, I dunno |
18:20.16 | Stanzilla | b0b Gnarfoz |
18:20.33 | Gnarfoz | what? |
18:34.58 | znf | wtf blizzard |
18:35.02 | znf | game crashed |
18:35.03 | znf | now wants update |
18:35.05 | znf | son of a bitch |
18:35.10 | Stanzilla | meeeeh |
18:35.14 | bluipodcow | Lol another one ? |
18:35.15 | Stanzilla | STUF does not what I want either |
18:35.19 | bluipodcow | Lolololololol pollock |
18:35.31 | bluipodcow | Wtf autocorrect |
18:37.09 | Gnarfoz | [19:29:52] <Ackis> the integrated calendar used to be good, the mail client is wicked <-- are you high? it has basically NO features |
18:38.12 | Gnarfoz | (because it's an even further stripped down version of Outlook Exp... wait, "Windows Mail") |
18:38.31 | durcyn | man Gnarfoz i already yelled at him for that an hour ago |
18:38.47 | Gnarfoz | so fucking what |
18:38.55 | Gnarfoz | it's bad enough to be yelled at for many times |
18:38.56 | durcyn | so carry on? |
18:39.17 | Repo | ailo: 03stencil 042.8.1 * r231 : Tagging as release 2.8.1 |
18:42.39 | nevcairiel | its funny how normal outlook doesnt use IE to render html mails anymore |
18:42.47 | nevcairiel | ... instead, it uses words html engine! |
18:42.52 | Gnarfoz | normal outlook is a proper email client/PIM |
18:43.03 | Gnarfoz | (not saying html mails aren't the devils work, but...) |
18:43.22 | nevcairiel | html mails are even worse if you have to cater such terrible html renderers like word |
18:43.27 | nevcairiel | aka outlook 2010 =P |
18:43.37 | durcyn | it's an even worse generator |
18:43.37 | Gnarfoz | just don't cater to html renderers |
18:43.53 | nevcairiel | if customer wants pretty images in his mails, whatcanyoudo |
18:44.06 | Gnarfoz | pick another customer |
18:44.10 | Gnarfoz | (;p) |
18:44.22 | Torhal|work | "I'm sorry, sir; your money is simply not good enough." |
18:44.27 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
18:47.42 | nevcairiel | in capitalist germany, customer picks you! |
18:50.19 | Fisker | man Funkeh` |
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18:50.25 | Fisker | i still need that addon for auto-reporting anal |
18:53.38 | Repo | halonatools: 03broliant * r111 / (4 files in 3 directories): (2 lines trimmed from commit message) |
18:53.39 | Repo | HalonaTools: |
18:53.39 | Repo | 2013-04-17 ("The Thunder King:2.42") |
18:53.39 | Repo | - Fixed error in HTCommon:SetGMOTD(messageText) function. |
18:54.13 | Repo | halonatools: 03broliant 04Release-v2.42 * r112 : HalonaTools: Tagging as release of version 2.42. |
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19:14.00 | znf | ...what a surprise. We made everyone not DPS @ 1st boss HC, and we made it to berserk |
19:14.19 | znf | instead of dying on 1st ionization / lightning ball etc. |
19:14.41 | durcyn | your raid sounds worse and worse every time you talk about it |
19:15.31 | Gnarfoz | znf: that actually sounds like a good idea |
19:16.06 | Gnarfoz | although we're dying in the first storm phase |
19:16.09 | Gnarfoz | not on ionization |
19:16.59 | znf | apparently some of our healers don't know when to dispel... |
19:17.26 | Gnarfoz | that's what voip is for \o/ |
19:17.35 | Gnarfoz | but we're going to do what you just did, I think. |
19:17.54 | znf | yeah, but that's the thing - you don't really need to communicate over voice that you need to get dispelled |
19:18.07 | znf | if you see a person that has ionization but not waters, dispel |
19:18.21 | durcyn | because the splash damage isn't important or anything |
19:18.25 | nebula169 | much easier if you just have a set rotation, lol |
19:18.42 | znf | durcyn, the splash damage is just 4 yards |
19:18.46 | znf | nebula169, in 25? :-/ |
19:18.51 | nebula169 | yes |
19:19.04 | durcyn | or just have people without self-dispels move out at 5 seconds and let it time out |
19:19.18 | nebula169 | yea, we have people with cds do that |
19:19.25 | durcyn | the amount of stupid bullshit people try to do on jin'rokh is hilarious |
19:19.40 | znf | durcyn, that's what we're doing, basically |
19:19.41 | durcyn | for a while we had a shadow priest mass dispelling mages and shit |
19:19.51 | znf | I'm getting out, mass dispeling myself, going back in |
19:19.53 | durcyn | he got lightning every time before heroic for 8 pulls in a row |
19:19.59 | durcyn | before ionization even |
19:20.09 | znf | lol |
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19:34.51 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: our holy paladin has gotten lightning all pulls since the second one tonight |
19:35.00 | Gnarfoz | *the first lightning |
19:35.03 | znf | stolenlegacy, I have a feature request for you that I don't know how to implement :> |
19:35.22 | Gnarfoz | hahaha |
19:35.36 | Torhal|work | znf: ? |
19:35.38 | Gnarfoz | good timing (I know he just re-joined, but it's a lot more funny this way) |
19:37.12 | znf | Torhal|work, need to figure out a way to be reminded that the dot was applied with 100% crit |
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19:43.27 | Repo | big-wigs: 03pettigrow * r10809 / (3 files in 2 directories): frFR Update |
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19:45.41 | znf | Funkeh` / nebula169 - the DBM version check doesn't seem to be working in raids? it worked while I wasn't in a instance |
19:46.11 | znf | it only shows me as having DBM |
19:47.57 | nebula169 | as in dbm users seeing you as using dbm? or bw says your using dbm |
19:48.11 | znf | nebula169, http://i.imgur.com/z50Mmq9.png |
19:48.36 | nebula169 | shows your twice |
19:48.39 | nebula169 | you* |
19:49.24 | znf | before I entered the instance, it showed everyone who was using DBM properly |
19:50.09 | znf | now in raid it just doesn't show who's using DBM (except me, and I'm not using it) |
19:50.37 | nebula169 | Funkeh` added doing a version sync on enable, might be messing with things /shrug i don't touch core stuff very often |
19:52.54 | znf | it's kind of weird, though - why isn't it showing up everyone else who's emulating the DBM version check? And why did it work before I entered an instane? :P |
19:59.34 | znf | hmmm, this 4chan witch hunt is interesting |
19:59.39 | znf | for the boston thingie |
20:05.12 | MysticalOS | oh znf i noticed that too |
20:05.21 | MysticalOS | it's because bigwigs doesn't send it until onenable |
20:05.40 | MysticalOS | if it's grey it's not sending version |
20:06.21 | MysticalOS | when i was testing code i just kept clicking bigwigs to enable it (orange or whatever) so i'd pull version from it |
20:08.33 | Repo | big-wigs: 03Wetxius * r10810 ThroneOfThunder/Locales/ruRU.lua: ruRU update. |
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20:16.36 | Gnarfoz | the bw-dbm version check doesn't work for me at all |
20:16.54 | Gnarfoz | doesn't show the "dbm users" line, even though I'm certain everyone who's being reported as "no boss mod" is a DBM user |
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20:30.46 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz |
20:33.21 | Funkeh` | err no MysticalOS |
20:33.28 | Funkeh` | it sends it when you join a group |
20:33.37 | Funkeh` | I only made it send onenable ALSO today |
20:34.08 | Funkeh` | znf, if you joined the raid late then no one will send a version query for you to harvest the responses |
20:34.09 | MysticalOS | ah strange, i could swear when i was adding the BW version checking, i always had to enable it. maybe it was just a timing thing. is it sent on a delay after group join? |
20:34.27 | Funkeh` | yes |
20:34.44 | Funkeh` | otherwise it will spam like crazy as people join the raid like DBM does |
20:34.45 | MysticalOS | yeah i noticed that too. bigwigs only sends when THAT user joinsm not when other join. dbm resends versions every user join after the "hi" sync |
20:35.01 | MysticalOS | heh yeah, i know why you did it the way you did, but it kinda sucks a little in same right |
20:35.25 | MysticalOS | cause the last person to join raid doesn't get versions from the bigwigs users |
20:36.17 | MysticalOS | bigwigs sends a sync when you do a version check right? maybe i can have dbm's version check send that too, that it's requesting versions? |
20:36.39 | Funkeh` | no it doesn't |
20:37.26 | Funkeh` | if it did you'd have to delay the print to harvest the responses |
20:37.40 | MysticalOS | true |
20:39.34 | MysticalOS | i wonder if dbms coms can be reduced by delaying send (after a raid join) by something short, like 3-5 seconds.so it won't send version on "H" until the time since last H was > x seconds. that way it won't send version 25 times during a mass invite, it'll just send it 1 time (or maybe 2-4 times if people accept invites a little slow) |
20:41.28 | Funkeh` | in other words, the exact same way BW does? |
20:42.20 | MysticalOS | bigwigs doesn't resend version when OTHERS join the raid |
20:42.34 | Funkeh` | when others join the raid they send their own query |
20:42.55 | Funkeh` | provoking a response from everyone else |
20:43.00 | MysticalOS | hmm |
20:44.17 | MysticalOS | so i just need to send that query in dbm or something? for example, if i reload UI after raid is formed, i'll have no bigwigs versions for rest of raid. or if i join raid last, i wont' have versions for everyone who joined before me. guess I just need a way to quiery those versions |
20:44.54 | Funkeh` | that's because no one has send a query, for you to harvest all the responses |
20:45.02 | Funkeh` | this is the issue I'm saying BW has to znf |
20:45.34 | Funkeh` | the only way qould be to send a DBM version query which would then make DBM users think you're using DBM |
20:46.11 | Funkeh` | MysticalOS, you can send a BW version query with version 0 if you want it to be ignored and just provoke a response |
20:46.17 | Funkeh` | not sure if DBM allows it |
20:46.51 | Fumler | What does UnitClass("player") etc return? I just want to fetch the englishClass portion of it |
20:47.19 | Fumler | lua is strange |
20:47.21 | MysticalOS | 1, localized string(you don't want ot use this typically) |
20:47.31 | nebula169 | first return is the localized string, second is the class token |
20:47.32 | MysticalOS | 2, a non localized string, you want to use this |
20:47.45 | Fumler | well how do I just get 2? |
20:48.00 | MysticalOS | _, class = UnitClass("player") |
20:48.03 | nebula169 | local _, class = UnitClass(unit) |
20:48.07 | MysticalOS | well yeah local |
20:48.14 | MysticalOS | oops, don't leak globals |
20:48.22 | MysticalOS | :) |
20:48.30 | Fumler | Cant just call index like in normal languages? :P |
20:48.44 | nebula169 | lua is lua, not other languages |
20:49.05 | Torhal|work | How do you index multiple return values? |
20:49.11 | Torhal|work | I've never even heard of that. |
20:49.19 | Megalon | you gotta wrapt it Torhal|work |
20:49.19 | nebula169 | UnitClass("player")[2] |
20:49.22 | Megalon | in a wrappy wrapwrap |
20:49.25 | nevcairiel | very few languages have multiple return values, so any comparisons you want to make will most likely fail :P |
20:49.25 | nebula169 | DUH Torhal|work |
20:49.55 | Torhal|work | nebula169: That's just...wrong. |
20:49.57 | znf | Funkeh`, I see. btw, do you think there's still a reason for BigWigs to emulate the DBM version check now that DBM can also "detect" that? |
20:50.00 | nebula169 | :p |
20:50.18 | Funkeh` | znf, what do you mean it can detect that? |
20:50.20 | Fumler | var derp = UnitClass("player") - then I can just call derp[1] |
20:50.23 | nebula169 | i always thought the faker thing was silly |
20:50.37 | nebula169 | Fumler: then do local derp = {UnitClass("player")} |
20:50.38 | Torhal|work | Fumler: It's multiple return values, not a return value that's always an array P |
20:50.41 | znf | Funkeh`, well, the DBM version check reports when a person uses both DBM and BigWigs |
20:50.46 | MysticalOS | class = select(2, UnitClass("player")) is also doable which basically tells it to ignore first arg and start at 2nd and go from there |
20:50.53 | Torhal|work | nebula169: Don't encourage bad practices :P |
20:51.01 | nebula169 | can't stop people from being retarded |
20:51.03 | nebula169 | ;[ |
20:51.03 | nevcairiel | ^ don't do what MysticalOS suggests, though |
20:51.06 | MysticalOS | right |
20:51.10 | MysticalOS | that's not efficient |
20:51.10 | Fumler | Thanks guys |
20:51.29 | Fumler | best is to put first one in a throwaway variable? |
20:51.36 | MysticalOS | yes |
20:51.41 | nevcairiel | i may favor it if you want like the 10th value out of some function |
20:51.48 | nevcairiel | because it otherwise gets unreadable |
20:51.51 | nevcairiel | but not for 2 :P |
20:52.04 | znf | Funkeh`, DBM shows like: Znufflessd: DBM 5.2.5 alpha (r9320) & BigWigs Alpha (r10791) |
20:52.05 | Fumler | and _ is the norm for returns you dont want? |
20:52.12 | nebula169 | i use select when i want one value with a fallback if its nil |
20:52.17 | nevcairiel | znf: so maybe you run both? |
20:52.24 | nevcairiel | znf: users are known to be stupid |
20:52.26 | MysticalOS | _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _,useful arg = AwsomeFunction() |
20:52.32 | MysticalOS | ^ you know that's sexy nev |
20:52.35 | durcyn | znf is known to be a user |
20:52.37 | Fumler | :D |
20:52.47 | Fumler | Thanks for the help |
20:52.49 | nevcairiel | durcyn: i know, i used him as an example there |
20:53.07 | znf | nevcairiel, the question was if there's any reason for BigWigs do emulate DBM on a DBM version check |
20:53.11 | znf | s/do/to/ |
20:53.38 | MysticalOS | znf, assume that at least half the raid is running an outdated version of dbm that can't see BW versions anyways |
20:53.39 | nevcairiel | znf: if some dumbfuck raidlead makes dbm mandatory, you could at least claim you run both =P |
20:53.41 | MysticalOS | cause it's the damn truth |
20:53.54 | znf | dunno, just wondering |
20:54.02 | MysticalOS | and what nev said |
20:54.18 | znf | ok :-) |
20:54.28 | MysticalOS | I don't care what people run, as long as they have SOMETHING and it's not 10 RELEASE versions out of date |
20:54.51 | MysticalOS | i'm gonna bitch at the DBM or bigwigs user that's running a version from last year |
20:54.53 | nebula169 | hate people don't don't atleast have the latest release |
20:55.01 | nevcairiel | it really should say a release date or something in there, those revisions are kinda hard to pin point somewhere |
20:55.34 | MysticalOS | i thought about that actually |
20:55.38 | znf | well, not gonna be a problem soon, anyway, for me, we're most likely gonna force everyone to use BigWigs |
20:55.48 | nevcairiel | as a RL you may know bigwigs OR DBM releases/versions, but maybe not both |
20:55.49 | MysticalOS | but that's a really long string, it'd be 2 lines per person in most chat frame sizes |
20:56.10 | Torhal|work | Require a decoder ring. |
20:56.39 | MysticalOS | Hmm, maybe i could just make users who are running an old version red in the print |
20:57.07 | MysticalOS | then all i have to do is add latest rev of DBM and BW to check, and if rev < that make red? |
20:57.39 | nevcairiel | it could be smart and simply use the newest it sees as reference, i think bigwigs does that |
20:58.01 | MysticalOS | that's true |
20:58.01 | nevcairiel | warns you when someone has a newer one too, or at least used to, havent used it for a expansion or so |
20:59.43 | Funkeh` | yes it does |
21:00.01 | Funkeh` | znf, I still don't understand you're complain, so it tags as you using DBM, that's what it's meant to do |
21:00.08 | Funkeh` | your compaint |
21:00.51 | nebula169 | but it should know you don't have it on your own screen! |
21:01.00 | durcyn | if i can translate: once both mods detect both mods, version faking is no longer necessary |
21:01.18 | nebula169 | <nevcairiel> znf: if some dumbfuck raidlead makes dbm mandatory, you could at least claim you run both =P |
21:01.22 | nebula169 | :p |
21:01.30 | MysticalOS | ^ |
21:01.32 | durcyn | don't raid with dumbfucks that use dbm in the first place! |
21:02.33 | MysticalOS | if you're killing bosses and doing fight right. i don't care if you're running billy bobs boss warning system? |
21:05.00 | durcyn | one of these days we should put our differences aside, MysticalOS, and start hating on PhoenixStyle |
21:05.16 | znf | Funkeh`, I'm not complaining |
21:05.20 | znf | Funkeh`, just wonderig |
21:05.26 | nebula169 | what, someone needs to START hating PS? i've hated that shit since tbc |
21:05.55 | MysticalOS | EnsidiaFails! /glares at Caleb| |
21:06.02 | MysticalOS | <PROTECTED> |
21:06.17 | znf | basically what durcyn said :P |
21:06.28 | nebula169 | although, libfails-mop errors like a bitch during iron qon |
21:06.44 | MysticalOS | too many people standing in shit, lib can't handle it! |
21:07.09 | nebula169 | yea, think it was arc lightning, lfr was going nuts |
21:07.22 | MysticalOS | your standing in fire!. why the hell was that mage who just got storm cloud standing in melee! |
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21:08.45 | dieck | MysticalOS: oldschool mage, leveling staves skill probably :) |
21:10.47 | MysticalOS | my mage alt always had max fist skills, this was a requirement |
22:14.21 | Repo | big-wigs: 03dynaletik * r10811 ThroneOfThunder/Locales/deDE.lua: - deDE update |
23:00.44 | Repo | saved_instances: 03oscarucb * r265 SavedInstances.lua: |
23:00.44 | Repo | Delay core:Refresh 5 minutes for quest DB to update after daily rollover |
23:00.45 | Repo | remove some dead code |
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23:21.30 | znf | Hmm, I have a small issue with 64bit client - feels like it's memory leaking or something |
23:22.21 | durcyn | maybe the issues is your "feelings" |
23:22.45 | Primer | Surely you can monitor its memory footprint? |
23:23.10 | znf | yeah, it's going up to 2.3GB used |
23:23.17 | znf | I haven't seen it pass 1.5GB in ages |
23:28.56 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r10812 Loader.lua: Loader: request DBM version on group join. |
23:29.05 | Funkeh` | znf, there |
23:29.13 | znf | nice, thanks :-) |
23:29.20 | MysticalOS | working together to fix same problem in both mods :) |
23:29.47 | MysticalOS | my fix i sent you is correct yes? |
23:30.12 | Funkeh` | I don't know DBM API but it looks like it should work fine for you |
23:34.41 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r10813 / (2 files in 2 directories): Update credits list |
23:41.31 | Repo | libcandybar-3-0: 03funkydude * r66 bars.lua: Reset clamp status of returned bars. |
23:42.52 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r10814 Plugins/Bars.lua: |
23:42.52 | Repo | Bars: don't clamp bars to screen, we already clamp the anchor. |
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23:54.57 | Repo | fzxc: 03Fylwind 07master * 1.0.10 FZXC.lua: [+1 commit] Messages from ignored players are now hidden. |
23:54.59 | Repo | fzxc: 03Fylwind 041.0.10 * 2d27afb /: [new tag] Tagging as 1.0.10 |
23:58.44 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: does that break clamping the new skin where the icon is not really part of the bar? |
23:59.27 | Funkeh` | how would clamping affect that? |
23:59.46 | Stanzilla | because the icon is outside of the anchor |
23:59.52 | Stanzilla | and you move it to the left side of the screen |
23:59.59 | Stanzilla | the anchor clamps but the icons is outside of the screen |