| 00:10.23 | End_ | how boring, the new AceTimer seems to work perfectly |
| 00:11.00 | nebula169 | you expected it to be broken somehow? lol |
| 00:12.03 | Funkeh` | it was broken, it's had it's minor bumped twice for fixes |
| 00:12.10 | Funkeh` | and there's still something wrong I'm investigating |
| 00:12.17 | End_ | oh, interesting |
| 00:12.28 | End_ | I haven't seen anything broken so far with my own limited testing |
| 00:14.56 | Funkeh` | well they were limited to specific use cases |
| 00:15.14 | Funkeh` | and the current issue I think is an upgrading issue |
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| 02:42.06 | quiescens | moo |
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| 04:05.25 | Repo | big-brother: 03nebula169 06ace3dev * r330 Consumables.lua: checks: remove some upvalues |
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| 07:34.31 | Stanzilla | hellow |
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| 07:42.34 | Repo | big-wigs: 03Wetxius * r9788 / (3 files in 3 directories): ruRU update. |
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| 08:01.56 | Repo | serenity-now: 03calahil * r73 SerenityNow (14 files in 4 directories): |
| 08:01.56 | Repo | -added options to limit how many cd and debuff bars are visible |
| 08:01.57 | Repo | -added a grid for the frame movers so that you can make things purty |
| 08:01.57 | Repo | -tidied up some code |
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| 08:47.19 | sb | morgen |
| 08:51.29 | sb | znf: "We are going to redesign Shadow Word: Insanity." |
| 08:51.35 | sb | but yes, old :D |
| 08:53.32 | Stanzilla | sb |
| 08:53.34 | Stanzilla | warm my feet |
| 08:54.00 | sb | sorry, no :( |
| 08:54.11 | Stanzilla | why not |
| 08:54.18 | sb | because no boobies |
| 08:56.54 | Fisker | so Stanzilla |
| 08:56.58 | Fisker | we're getting 64-bitty |
| 08:57.30 | Stanzilla | maybe |
| 08:58.05 | Kalroth | 128 bitz 4 lyfe!! |
| 09:08.38 | znf | sb, it will be most likely shit, anyway |
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| 09:13.42 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 09:37.11 | Repo | big-brother: 03nebula169 06ace3dev * r331 / (2 files in 1 directory): checks: fix lfg/crz groups and whispering |
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| 09:38.36 | sb | znf: sorry, but shadow dps isnt THAT bad :p |
| 09:38.45 | znf | no, but INSANITY is bad :( |
| 09:38.50 | sb | right |
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| 10:09.18 | Repo | serenity-now: 03calahil * r74 SerenityNow (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 10:09.18 | Repo | -added INSTANCE_CHAT for a comm channel so that you're CD's will show up in LFR/LFD |
| 10:10.58 | Repo | serenity-now: 03calahil 041.1 * r75 : tagged 1.1 |
| 10:20.59 | Repo | big-brother: 03nebula169 06ace3dev * r332 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 10:20.59 | Repo | alerts: option to enable per instance type, combine mass dispel targets, report interrupts used when the mob isn't casting as a miss |
| 10:25.24 | znf | WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU DO THAT?!?!?!?! |
| 10:25.28 | znf | <Repo> -added INSTANCE_CHAT for a comm channel so that you're CD's will show up in LFR/LFD |
| 10:25.31 | znf | ??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 10:25.39 | quiescens | o.o |
| 10:25.49 | quiescens | pats znf |
| 10:25.51 | quiescens | there there |
| 10:26.30 | znf | @project serenity-now |
| 10:26.30 | Repo | znf: [WoW] Serenity Now (Updated Jan 11, 2013 at 07:36 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/serenity-now/ |
| 10:27.08 | znf | I'm, like, tempted to revert that change just because... |
| 10:28.14 | nevcairiel | please do, so we have reason to ban you :D |
| 10:28.14 | quiescens | so much anger o.o |
| 10:28.40 | nebula169 | i've never understood why people support spamming to lfg |
| 10:28.53 | znf | Me neither |
| 10:29.20 | znf | hurr durr let's add instance chat |
| 10:29.41 | wink | znf: don |
| 10:29.53 | wink | znf: don't you know 'not in party' spam? |
| 10:30.15 | znf | wink, I honestly don't care for the "not in party chat" |
| 10:30.23 | wink | as most addons sent interrupts/cds/etc to party, now it has to be INSTANCE_CHAT or whatever for LFR |
| 10:30.33 | znf | I know that... |
| 10:30.44 | znf | They should protect instance_chat |
| 10:30.45 | wink | well, this is just a fix for blizzard changes |
| 10:30.53 | wink | I am not arguing pro or contra spam |
| 10:31.07 | wink | it is the right thing to fix, if your addon has that functionality |
| 10:31.23 | znf | or, here's a crazy idea, disable it in LFR/LFD! |
| 10:31.26 | znf | better fix |
| 10:31.36 | wink | hehe |
| 10:32.00 | wink | dunno, I like Bloodlust announces for example |
| 10:32.03 | wink | might miss the sound |
| 10:32.53 | znf | uhm wait |
| 10:33.03 | znf | I thought they removed the addon channel from instance chat thingie? |
| 10:34.14 | ZaB|SHC| | znf: have you actually looked at the code? it uses the addon comm channel for the instance. so that every user with this addon can track the cds of others (e.g. interrupts ...). |
| 10:34.42 | nevcairiel | znf doesnt read code, he just bitches and moans |
| 10:35.04 | quiescens | people like to complain about changes to addons that don't affect them in any appreciable way |
| 10:35.34 | znf | whenever I see an addon with INSTANCE_CHAT I'm annoyed |
| 10:36.11 | znf | And if you wanna know why, have a look at ensidia fails |
| 10:36.30 | znf | [12:35:55] [IL] [90:Bejèlit-Nemesis:4]: {rt7} Damage from [Squarcio della Tempesta] (total, phase 1): Nelztr (6), Pampalini (4), Firestormer (3), Schumis (3), Bethaheal (3), Onipower (2), Diablotm (2),... |
| 10:36.37 | znf | like anyone gives a fuck about that... |
| 10:36.52 | ZaB|SHC| | use some spam filter and learn to use patterns |
| 10:37.22 | quiescens | or just don't get so bothered about a random line of text o.o |
| 10:38.13 | znf | at least we go MysticalOS2 to permanently disable the /rw broadcast in DBM |
| 10:38.16 | znf | got |
| 10:39.16 | nebula169 | MysticalOS2: should add *** to dbm's pull messages, too /nod |
| 10:40.00 | znf | didn't Funkeh` ask him to make some change that shouldn't need the *** thingies? |
| 10:40.19 | znf | something about broadcasting the pull timer a different way |
| 10:40.35 | quiescens | magic |
| 10:41.14 | nebula169 | well dbm does timers kind of weird, but it's pull message has timed /rw Pull in x |
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| 10:43.31 | znf | yeah, but I bet half the userbase will complain if he removes that :P |
| 10:43.53 | nebula169 | i didn't say remove, i said add *** around it so boss block filters it |
| 10:44.55 | znf | Ah, that's what you mean |
| 10:45.22 | znf | btw, didn't Funkeh` commit a change or something that managed to also block the sound from the /rw ? |
| 10:45.40 | znf | or was I dreaming? |
| 10:49.30 | nebula169 | no, he did, unregisters the event to blizzard's frame, then calls the blizz function manually if it isn't trashed |
| 11:09.14 | wink | SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM |
| 11:11.19 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 11:15.46 | Stanzilla | hey bitches |
| 11:26.07 | Stanzilla | tradeskillmaster is weird |
| 11:26.24 | sb | so are you |
| 11:26.39 | Stanzilla | not funny |
| 11:29.08 | sb | its not supposed to be funny |
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| 11:31.07 | Stanzilla | so what do you use for auction business? |
| 11:32.47 | sb | im not much into auction stuff |
| 11:34.39 | Stanzilla | I just want something where I don't have to drag every fucking item into the sell screen |
| 11:38.00 | Stanzilla | uh oh |
| 11:38.09 | Stanzilla | after reloading like 10 times, the addon seems to work |
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| 11:44.41 | quiescens | reload again |
| 11:44.45 | quiescens | maybe it will break |
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| 11:56.07 | Megalon | reloads quiescens |
| 12:08.20 | quiescens | dies. |
| 12:12.22 | Megalon | my work here is done |
| 12:13.37 | quiescens | ): |
| 12:17.14 | Stanzilla | Megalon: fixed simcraft yet? |
| 12:18.12 | Megalon | indeed :) |
| 12:18.25 | Stanzilla | what was the bug? |
| 12:18.41 | Megalon | no clue, what bug should i have fixed in the first place? |
| 12:18.49 | Stanzilla | I don't know |
| 12:20.45 | Megalon | you know nothing, jon..stanzilla |
| 12:20.51 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 12:26.15 | quiescens | jonzilla? |
| 12:29.07 | Repo | chinchilla: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.5.10a-1-g95c6092 / (9 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Use the new AceTimer-3.0 instead of LibShefkiTimer-1.0. |
| 12:29.29 | sb | Stanzilla: your mom also seems to work after reloading 10 times |
| 12:29.35 | sb | meh... i should go home :D |
| 12:29.43 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 12:29.44 | Stanzilla | or die |
| 12:29.45 | Stanzilla | in a fire |
| 12:31.02 | Repo | tradeskill-info: 03ethancentaurai * r511 / (4 files in 2 directories): |
| 12:31.03 | Repo | Use the new and improved AceTimer-3.0 instead of LibShefkiTimer-1.0. |
| 12:33.27 | Funkeh` | znf, I don't think he nerfed /rw in lfr yet |
| 12:33.40 | Funkeh` | but he did fix the bad way they were handling pull timers |
| 12:34.23 | Funkeh` | I removed the workaround from bigwigs, which means bw users will see 2 bars when a dbm user does a pull. Probably until 5.2 when everyones finaly updated |
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| 12:44.55 | quiescens | ! |
| 12:44.55 | quiescens | ): |
| 12:45.01 | quiescens | blames stanzilla |
| 12:49.26 | Repo | nivbuffs: 03maat * r10 nivBuffs.lua: hide auras in pet battles |
| 12:53.34 | Repo | xperl: 03asixandur * r825 / (9 files in 9 directories): Replaced every old UnitMana call to modern UnitPower |
| 12:53.34 | Repo | Tried adding SPELL_POWER_ALTERNATE_POWER and showing it as energy (this should be the power type you get if you're transformed into a Construct during Amber-Shaper Un'sok, for example) |
| 12:56.39 | Repo | nivbuffs: 03maat 045.1-4 * r11 : Tagging as 5.1-4 |
| 13:00.55 | Stanzilla | Caleb|: wanna do that for auracle, too? |
| 13:01.49 | Caleb| | if I were to touch auracle code it'd be to fix Masque support before anything else |
| 13:03.25 | Stanzilla | hah ok :D |
| 13:03.56 | Caleb| | woah woah calm down, I didn't say I'll |
| 13:04.44 | Funkeh` | <3 Caleb| |
| 13:05.20 | Funkeh` | pats Stanzilla |
| 13:06.13 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 13:06.14 | Stanzilla | you guys |
| 13:08.17 | sb | http://what-if.xkcd.com/28/ |
| 13:28.21 | Repo | big-wigs: 03maat * r9789 Plugins/Bars.lua: |
| 13:28.21 | Repo | make pull timer use the countdown sound and play an initial sound when a pull timer is started |
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| 14:50.54 | nevcairiel | my nexus finally shipped \o/ |
| 14:51.12 | haste | so slow |
| 14:51.32 | nevcairiel | i think i got moved to a later batch because my credit card was acting up in the first week :( |
| 14:52.05 | haste | my n4 was shipped to work the day after my vacation started |
| 14:52.13 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:52.31 | haste | and I had some surgery that week, so couldn't really pick it up until it was thursday |
| 14:52.36 | haste | so sad |
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| 14:52.49 | nevcairiel | so, any word on the charging cubes yet? |
| 14:52.52 | nevcairiel | i need like, 3 |
| 14:52.53 | nevcairiel | :p |
| 14:52.59 | haste | next month I think |
| 14:53.25 | nevcairiel | i bet it'll be equally hard to get those |
| 14:53.46 | quiescens | moo |
| 14:54.06 | haste | the current list prices in norway are 500-750 NOK |
| 14:54.10 | haste | which is fairly insane |
| 14:54.36 | nevcairiel | translate to a currency that anyone else understands already |
| 14:55.04 | haste | 90 - 140 USD |
| 14:55.07 | haste | TROLLOLOLOLOLOL |
| 14:55.18 | nevcairiel | so 70-100 euros or so |
| 14:55.27 | haste | y |
| 14:55.40 | nevcairiel | for a fuckign charging block |
| 14:55.44 | haste | yep |
| 14:55.48 | haste | luckily I only need two! |
| 14:55.48 | nevcairiel | well its the norway extra price |
| 14:56.04 | nevcairiel | i need one for work and one for home at the very least, but i could easily use two at home |
| 14:56.23 | haste | I don't need one in the bedroom, using sleep as android everyday anyway |
| 14:56.38 | nevcairiel | sleep as android? |
| 14:56.46 | haste | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.urbandroid.sleep&hl=en |
| 14:57.06 | nevcairiel | oh its one of those sleep measurment thingys |
| 14:57.10 | haste | y |
| 14:57.24 | haste | looking at the stats makes me a sad panda tho' |
| 14:57.29 | nevcairiel | does that really work? |
| 14:57.51 | nevcairiel | i mean, how often do you change sleep states? Can i tell it to wake me around ~7 without being woken at 6 or only at 8? :p |
| 14:57.52 | haste | kinda, mainly use it for the tracking |
| 14:58.24 | haste | last 14 days statistics: average (h): 4:54 |
| 14:58.33 | nevcairiel | you need to sleep more |
| 14:58.54 | haste | if my body only would |
| 15:00.38 | haste | need to test a wakeup light and earplugs soon |
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| 15:00.44 | haste | but all the wakeup lights suck still |
| 15:01.51 | znf | so, does anyone understand wtf is this? |
| 15:01.51 | znf | http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2013/january/52ValorSpend.png |
| 15:02.07 | znf | a rep... but not from dailies? for valor gear? |
| 15:03.34 | Funkeh` | a raid rep? |
| 15:08.31 | znf | wouldn't those be completely pointless? |
| 15:08.40 | znf | VP gear that requires raid rep? |
| 15:13.49 | znf | ~wowalert |
| 15:13.49 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 15:14.08 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r9790 Loader.lua: |
| 15:14.08 | Repo | Loader: send the fake DBM version if the feature is being turned on whilst inside a raid/group. |
| 15:15.07 | znf | Funkeh`, so, to be clear, now BigWigs also sends timers to DBM, right? |
| 15:15.22 | Funkeh` | you're a lazy bastard |
| 15:15.40 | znf | Yes I am |
| 15:15.58 | Funkeh` | if you mean pull/custom timers, yes |
| 15:16.31 | znf | good! |
| 15:17.03 | znf | removes BigWigs_Pizzabars |
| 15:18.24 | MysticalOS2 | hmm, no packages in 16 hours |
| 15:21.27 | znf | is that good, MysticalOS2 ? |
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| 15:26.47 | Funkeh` | packager is broken, nothing unusual there. Right prencher ? |
| 15:27.06 | Axodious | someone want to help me figure out how i managed to cause pb4_luatexts to crash WoW? getting a "Unable to open DBFilesClient\DeclinedWord.dbc" error 5 times |
| 15:27.44 | Axodious | got this for luatexts i made http://pastebin.ca/2302120 , one more that's the same as the second one but without the percent |
| 15:28.04 | Axodious | seems to only happen in combat |
| 15:30.04 | Axodious | dunno if it's something i should open a ticket for or what because i can't find anyone else having this issue |
| 15:51.10 | Repo | wim-3: 03mysticalos * r358 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 15:51.10 | Repo | Added recognition of battle.net desktop App (since blizz let cat out of bag with D3 PTR) |
| 15:51.31 | sb | desktop app? |
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| 15:52.20 | MysticalOS2 | look at D3 ptr client strings :p |
| 15:53.54 | Stanzilla | was to be expected that hey come up with something like that |
| 15:54.47 | Funkeh` | because guild chat isn't enough like irc as it is |
| 15:54.51 | Funkeh` | with 10 people idling |
| 15:55.24 | MysticalOS2 | i just look forward to them getting strings and icons into wow, so CLNT users stop showing up as big green blobs |
| 15:59.16 | Stanzilla | MysticalOS2: how the fuck do you already have people using it? |
| 16:03.31 | quiescens | what's a good secure delete thingy that works for windows 7? |
| 16:04.12 | quiescens | someone asking for some reason but everything i find looks badly written |
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| 16:13.46 | Repo | bad-boy: 03funkydude * r1108 / (2 files in 1 directory): anti-spam update |
| 16:16.57 | Axodious | quiescens, did you look at bcwipe? |
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| 16:31.59 | Funkeh` | hey Fisker was it you that said 1) the windows 8 upgrade process lets you create an iso to clean install and 2) lets you upgrade from preview? |
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| 16:41.02 | Stanzilla | 1 is true |
| 16:43.13 | Funkeh` | both are true apparently |
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| 16:47.43 | Fisker | there shouldn't be a direct upgrade from preview |
| 16:47.51 | Fisker | but usually it can be achieved my simply modifying the ISO |
| 16:48.05 | Fisker | it's basically just making a check on the build number |
| 16:48.09 | Fisker | and usually works regardless |
| 16:48.19 | Fisker | but usually haven't been officially supported |
| 16:56.19 | Repo | serenity-now: 03calahil 041.1-1 * r76 : tagged 1.1-1 |
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| 17:01.48 | Stanzilla | I just used a different pc with 7 or xp on it Funkeh` |
| 17:01.51 | Stanzilla | eeezpeez |
| 17:02.06 | Stanzilla | just bought another license the day before yesterday |
| 17:02.11 | Stanzilla | forgot that I had to get one for my notebook too |
| 17:02.26 | Funkeh` | that works? |
| 17:02.39 | Funkeh` | well, I was worried it might make some kind of hardware profile that it only installs on |
| 17:02.45 | Funkeh` | but I guess it is a generic iso |
| 17:02.55 | Stanzilla | yes is is |
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| 17:16.30 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r9791 HeartOfFear (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 17:16.32 | Repo | Tayak / Meljarak: Call CloseProximity() to compensate for specific abilities being turned off. |
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| 17:35.22 | quiescens | ! |
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| 18:21.29 | Stanzilla | pets durcyn |
| 18:28.37 | Stanzilla | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-jvCZFu_tIE znf |
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| 18:42.31 | znf | Stanzilla, too bad my guild will pussy out on it |
| 18:42.45 | Stanzilla | HAXPLOITS |
| 18:43.13 | znf | "free hc kill" :D |
| 18:44.30 | durcyn | that guy's camera work doesn't mix with his epilepsy |
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| 18:47.07 | znf | I'd do it, but, like I said, my guild would pussy out |
| 19:08.20 | Gnarfoz | [16:59:08] <Stanzilla> MysticalOS2: how the fuck do you already have people using it? <-- blizzard pplz |
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| 19:19.57 | Gnarfoz | [15:56:16] <haste> I don't need one in the bedroom, using sleep as android everyday anyway <-- I always wanted to get a Wakemate, but I think they went bankrupt before they ever started offering orders to EU |
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| 19:20.27 | Gnarfoz | where do you put your phone? pyjama pants pocket or something? how accurate is the sleep phase detection? |
| 19:20.45 | haste | just next to my pillow |
| 19:20.56 | haste | and I can't really tell how accurate they are |
| 19:24.11 | durcyn | i should see if i can get my hands on a wakemate, i break or sleep through every other alarm clock |
| 19:25.32 | haste | http://imgur.com/C3Pao graphs typically look like this Gnarfoz |
| 19:25.50 | haste | I'm a terrible sleeper, so most likely fairly accurate |
| 19:26.27 | haste | that's from a weekend, so no alarm =/ |
| 19:26.29 | Gnarfoz | no idea :D could also be that it doesn't notice your movement as much |
| 19:26.42 | Gnarfoz | I do wonder how well it works without a gyroscope |
| 19:26.44 | haste | hills are movement |
| 19:26.52 | haste | green on the bottom is "deep sleep" |
| 19:26.55 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 19:30.19 | sb | "pyjama pocket", sure |
| 19:31.08 | Gnarfoz | well, wakemate's approach was wristband |
| 19:31.38 | Gnarfoz | I doubt the stats have a useful degree of accuracy if the movement detector is just lying nearby |
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| 20:56.02 | znf | retarded Curse Client is retarded |
| 20:56.08 | znf | I removed BigWigs_PizzaBars |
| 20:56.22 | znf | it removed bigwigs completely |
| 20:56.45 | Funkeh` | maybe you misclicked |
| 20:57.43 | znf | nope |
| 20:58.04 | znf | it's still listed in my Curse client |
| 20:58.12 | znf | it's just... empty folders :D |
| 20:58.46 | znf | and ofc, now I realize it asked me if I wanted to remove settings when I removed pizzabars |
| 20:58.54 | znf | it probably cleared the settings from bigwigs completely |
| 21:08.29 | Gnarfoz | I want to be a rich wow nerd, too |
| 21:08.31 | Gnarfoz | [21:44:58] <slackie> first world problems: having to afk from a heroic because your maids need to clean under your chair |
| 21:09.13 | nevcairiel | that are bad maids |
| 21:09.40 | nevcairiel | he is obviously just the nerdy kid of some rich guy, if he was boss, he wouldn't go anywhere if a maid asked :p |
| 21:11.41 | Gnarfoz | he's some dude in #ej, early days Google employee |
| 21:13.15 | nevcairiel | still rather silly to move away from your pc for some cleaning |
| 21:13.17 | nevcairiel | :p |
| 21:14.30 | Gnarfoz | it should just mean you need to roll onto the other side of the bed |
| 21:15.03 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: do you have any experience with windows application crash dumps? |
| 21:15.09 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 21:15.27 | nevcairiel | although they are only useful if you have debug symbols for the application you're having a dump for |
| 21:15.46 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I'm aware of that |
| 21:16.41 | Gnarfoz | I'm (or rather, a non-trivial percentage of my guild) having a problem with ts3 (crashes on or almost immediately after connecting), and the dudes on the ts3 forums are being rather unhelpful, because my crashdumps don't have the filename they expect |
| 21:17.34 | Gnarfoz | because mine are being generated in C:\Users\Christian\AppData\Local\CrashDumps - but they say theirs should be in C:\Users\Christian\Documents - and they should be named like this ts3_clientui-win64-15001-2011-11-05 22_18_31.402400.dmp, not like this ts3client_win64.exe.4768.dmp |
| 21:18.02 | Gnarfoz | I'm not sure how these are generated and how much control the crashing application has over it |
| 21:18.34 | Gnarfoz | but since their filename format includes stuff like their build number, at least a little |
| 21:18.59 | nevcairiel | who the fuck cares about the filename |
| 21:19.06 | Gnarfoz | well |
| 21:19.23 | Gnarfoz | I had to break several $breakableItems to not turn the thread into a flamefest |
| 21:19.42 | Gnarfoz | but since I'm trying to get free support from them, I'm trying my best to be civil and not call the support guy out for being a moron |
| 21:20.01 | nevcairiel | you should, because he is |
| 21:20.36 | Gnarfoz | their build # is nothing but the date/time when the build was started as a unix timestamp, and I went on some kind of schnitzeljagd to figure out the build number regardless of it not being in the file name |
| 21:21.03 | Gnarfoz | (one easy way: their auto-updater accesses the regular ftp mirror servers, and those only have a limited number of versions available... in directories labeled with the build number) |
| 21:21.19 | Gnarfoz | anyway, he says "can't use without knowing the build number" (basically ignoring what I'm saying :D) |
| 21:21.32 | znf | Gnarfoz, then rename them |
| 21:21.36 | Gnarfoz | him being an idiot is not what I'm trying to ask, though |
| 21:21.41 | znf | why aren't you renaming them?! |
| 21:22.04 | Gnarfoz | I admit I haven't thought of that |
| 21:22.13 | Gnarfoz | they could just use them like this, though! |
| 21:22.23 | nevcairiel | it is true that its useless without the build number, otherwise you cant match the proper debug symbol to it |
| 21:22.29 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 21:22.37 | Gnarfoz | and I'm aware, hence my efforts to supply them with the build number |
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| 21:23.01 | Gnarfoz | and I can't really be wrong about it, since the updater also writes into the log "my version: 123123123, latest: 123123132" when checking |
| 21:23.08 | Gnarfoz | yadda yadda |
| 21:23.26 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: what I actually wanted to ask though: is there some way the developer specifies some handler or something that then writes out those crash dumps? |
| 21:23.44 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 21:23.49 | nevcairiel | many applications have that |
| 21:23.55 | Gnarfoz | wowerror.exe? ^^ |
| 21:24.04 | nevcairiel | even without an external application |
| 21:24.10 | nevcairiel | can create a custom dialog and everything |
| 21:24.11 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 21:24.15 | Gnarfoz | but ts3's app folder contains: error_report.exe |
| 21:24.20 | Gnarfoz | so this is rather obviously that |
| 21:24.32 | Gnarfoz | so I'm assuming that doesn't get called for some reason |
| 21:24.41 | Gnarfoz | and my question is: any idea what that reason could be? |
| 21:25.16 | Gnarfoz | today, I finally got a reply by someone who appears to be not braindead on their forums, saying "if you have windbg installed, that just might prevent the crashdumps from being generated the way we expect" - |
| 21:25.28 | Gnarfoz | but speedcommander, wow, d3 and others generate their crashdumps fine |
| 21:26.24 | Gnarfoz | after his post, I made sure to delete the "Debugger" registry key in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AeDebug |
| 21:26.30 | Gnarfoz | and uninstalled windbg |
| 21:26.37 | Gnarfoz | so I should be "just a normal windows user" ^^ |
| 21:28.00 | Gnarfoz | finally, the last shred of info I have is that my crash dumps are something like 1.5 MiB big, while those from a guildie (his are from 2011, sadly, his ts3 also doesn't generate crash reports these days - he IS experiencing the same bug as me, though) are barely 300 KiB |
| 21:28.45 | nevcairiel | you can store different quantities of information in a crash dump |
| 21:28.48 | Gnarfoz | basically, I'm assuming something fucked up the debug "environment" TS is expecting, resulting in their error handler not being used |
| 21:29.09 | durcyn | why not just get a crash dump from someone else who's experiencing the issue |
| 21:29.18 | durcyn | alternatively, write a book about it in irc |
| 21:29.19 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I had hoped the windows setting for it (no dump, small dump, kernel memory dump) would affect it, but I think that's just for STOP errors (i.e. BSOD) |
| 21:29.41 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: because for everyone I asked so far: no crash dumps, or alternatively: not experiencing the bug |
| 21:30.03 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: also, writing a book about it because I'm hoping to learn something about what's wrong in the process, too. don't be such a dick :P |
| 21:30.39 | Gnarfoz | I like to (or have a psychological disorder :P) understand the problems I'm experiencing, not just have them magically disappear :D |
| 21:31.36 | znf | can you sign my book copy, Gnarfoz? ^^ |
| 21:31.58 | Gnarfoz | s/(like to .* understand)/like \$1 understanding/ |
| 21:32.19 | Gnarfoz | znf: in which bodily fluid? |
| 21:32.36 | nevcairiel | for the record, the crash dump stores the version information of all involved exe and dll files |
| 21:32.47 | Gnarfoz | you're kidding |
| 21:32.48 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:32.56 | nevcairiel | if the ts3.exe does not have this information in its exe version field, it just fails |
| 21:33.31 | Gnarfoz | it just has the version it's going to be released as (using beta channel) |
| 21:33.39 | Gnarfoz | don't tell me to use stable, though |
| 21:33.49 | Gnarfoz | because then they'll just tell me to try beta channel because the bug may be fixed |
| 21:33.54 | Gnarfoz | ...right |
| 21:34.42 | nevcairiel | you can use a 4 part version number in the exe |
| 21:34.43 | Gnarfoz | their exes are timestamped |
| 21:34.47 | nevcairiel | like 1.1.1.12345 |
| 21:34.52 | Gnarfoz | yeah, it's 3.0.10.0 |
| 21:34.52 | nevcairiel | no place for the build in there? <.< |
| 21:34.53 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 21:35.09 | nevcairiel | timestamps are a bit inaccurate |
| 21:35.17 | nevcairiel | not having the build in the version info is a major fail |
| 21:36.10 | Gnarfoz | you can comment here if you like: http://forum.teamspeak.com/showthread.php/71251-Client-TSDNS-Crash?p=320549#post320549 ;p |
| 21:36.33 | Gnarfoz | anyway, no idea what would cause the crash handler defined by the application to not be used? |
| 21:36.39 | Gnarfoz | or rather, any idea |
| 21:37.55 | nevcairiel | well what you do is set soemthing as the "Unhandled" Exception Filter |
| 21:38.15 | nevcairiel | it may be possible for some debug tool to sneak in between that, so that all exceptions are suddenly handled =p |
| 21:38.36 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 21:38.51 | Gnarfoz | I doubt I have any additional ones installed? |
| 21:39.26 | Gnarfoz | maybe I'm searching for the wrong thing on google, but the registry key I mentioned should be the key that defines the system-wide default *interactive* debugger |
| 21:39.39 | Gnarfoz | ...windbg doesn't even set this automatically |
| 21:40.02 | Gnarfoz | (easy to notice: the "program has stopped working" dialog box suddenly gains a "cancel" button to start the debugger) |
| 21:40.34 | Gnarfoz | that button wasn't there for me before I explictly set that registry key to drwtsn32; I remove the key again since it's obviously not there by default |
| 21:40.58 | Gnarfoz | but: that setting is for the interactive debugger. maybe there's some other setting... gah, I hate this bug :p |
| 21:41.20 | Gnarfoz | I'm only investigating it again because their next server release is going to force upgrading to the current client build (because of Opus) |
| 21:42.07 | Gnarfoz | what confuses me is that even $guildie's box, no crashdumps are to be found, even though he has the exact same problem |
| 21:42.28 | Gnarfoz | and he certainly has never installed windbg |
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| 22:11.13 | Gnarfoz | oh, ultra early maintenance toda |
| 22:11.13 | Gnarfoz | y |
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| 22:27.07 | MysticalOS2 | i lol at http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7592202077?page=1 |
| 22:27.16 | MysticalOS2 | get your raiders online! |
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| 22:28.49 | Gnarfoz | MysticalOS2: eh? hasn't that time already passed? |
| 22:29.02 | Gnarfoz | oh, it's in 30 minutes |
| 22:29.10 | Gnarfoz | guess timezones still suck |
| 22:30.27 | MysticalOS2 | just an odd day/time to do it, when people are logging in for tuesday raids |
| 22:30.35 | Gnarfoz | they log in at 3 pm? |
| 22:30.36 | MysticalOS2 | they must not actually think those servers will be affected full duration |
| 22:30.41 | MysticalOS2 | east coast |
| 22:30.47 | MysticalOS2 | login before 7 |
| 22:30.50 | Gnarfoz | I still hate timezones |
| 22:30.51 | MysticalOS2 | for 7 raid |
| 22:31.18 | Gnarfoz | guess it's always 30 minutes to raid time SOMEWHERE |
| 22:41.32 | Gnarfoz | where there any changes moving CLEU args around after 5.0.1? |
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| 22:45.31 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: hah, I found a way to generate an ever fatter crashdump, sadly, still not getting the proper one ;) |
| 22:46.22 | Gnarfoz | custom settings in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Error Reporting\LocalDumps\ts3client_win64.exe |
| 22:51.11 | Stanzilla | lol znf brownnosed a mrrobot premium sub on twitter |
| 22:55.26 | znf | they promised! |
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| 23:05.19 | znf | Stanzilla, I got it for "beta feedback" |
| 23:05.27 | Stanzilla | i know |
| 23:05.27 | Gnarfoz | I just paid |
| 23:05.33 | Stanzilla | lay down the pitch forks |
| 23:05.33 | Gnarfoz | rich germans being rich |
| 23:05.37 | Stanzilla | fuck you Gnarfoz |
| 23:05.47 | Gnarfoz | what, it's like 0.x$ per month |
| 23:06.03 | znf | no idea |
| 23:06.04 | Stanzilla | what do you get for that |
| 23:06.10 | znf | I bought the app on the phone previousy |
| 23:06.13 | Stanzilla | and why would I need that |
| 23:06.21 | znf | but they changed the premium subscription thingie |
| 23:09.07 | Gnarfoz | hmmm |
| 23:09.21 | Gnarfoz | does hideCaster not show up in combatlog.txt? |
| 23:09.42 | durcyn | nope |
| 23:10.12 | Gnarfoz | hm ok |
| 23:10.42 | Gnarfoz | trying to figure out why this addon (some guy in trade chat asked... not even sure why I'm bothering... probably because I've had enough of debugging ts for one evening :P) |
| 23:10.53 | Gnarfoz | ... can track trinket procs, but not weapon procs |
| 23:11.15 | Gnarfoz | WoL tells me that a difference between them is that the weapon enchant proc has no source |
| 23:11.22 | Gnarfoz | or rather, no name |
| 23:11.43 | Gnarfoz | (but the addon does have some code to check the destname instead of the srcname is empty) |
| 23:18.01 | Gnarfoz | if not hideCaster then |
| 23:18.01 | Gnarfoz | hideCaster = nil |
| 23:18.01 | Gnarfoz | end |
| 23:18.05 | Gnarfoz | I like this part of the addon's code |
| 23:27.40 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: all the realppm enchants have no source |
| 23:27.46 | Stanzilla | that's why classtimre can't display them atm |
| 23:29.06 | Gnarfoz | can't? |
| 23:29.32 | Gnarfoz | you could just check if it's on you... which is what Proculas already does, but apparently it fails? :D |
| 23:30.11 | durcyn | why would you check the source of an aura that can't come from anywhere else |
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| 23:45.06 | Repo | simple-md: 03starinnia * r256 SimpleMD.lua: |
| 23:45.06 | Repo | -detect LFR groups and use Instance Chat instead of Raid Chat (drycoded) |
| 23:48.05 | Gnarfoz | the srcName is literally "Unknown"? what if a player is called that? wtf |
| 23:49.40 | Funkeh` | do you see it proc for other players? |
| 23:49.49 | Gnarfoz | !api isunit |
| 23:49.50 | lua_bot | Found 3 possible results for 'isunit': IsUnitOnQuest, UnitIsUnit, GameTooltip:IsUnit |
| 23:49.52 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: yeah |
| 23:49.58 | Gnarfoz | !api UnitIsUnit, |
| 23:49.58 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'UnitIsUnit,'. |
| 23:50.01 | Gnarfoz | blah! |
| 23:50.02 | Gnarfoz | !api UnitIsUnit |
| 23:50.02 | lua_bot | UnitIsUnit: Returns whether two unit references are to the same unit (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitIsUnit) |
| 23:50.10 | Gnarfoz | ah, that's not what I want |
| 23:50.34 | Gnarfoz | is there an easy way to tell if a string matches a unit name? |
| 23:50.41 | Gnarfoz | (since in groups, player names are valid units ._.) |
| 23:50.54 | Funkeh` | UnitInRaid |
| 23:51.32 | Funkeh` | if calling it with Unknown returns true then have fun! |
| 23:53.00 | Gnarfoz | !api unitexists |
| 23:53.01 | lua_bot | UnitExists: Returns whether a unit exists (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitExists) |
| 23:53.03 | Gnarfoz | shouldn't I use that? |
| 23:54.32 | Funkeh` | I guess |
