| 00:00.03 | Dark_Elf | and costly at that |
| 00:00.07 | znf | I'm eastern european!\ |
| 00:00.19 | znf | I have a shit corrupted country, shitloads of bureaucracy |
| 00:00.19 | Dark_Elf | nice to meet u |
| 00:00.21 | znf | We're poor as fuck |
| 00:00.28 | znf | Don't have a proper healthcare system |
| 00:00.36 | Dark_Elf | i feel same about my country lol |
| 00:00.38 | znf | BUT WE HAVE 100MBIT INTERNET FOR 8/MONTH! |
| 00:00.38 | Gnarfoz | so, you're the USA? |
| 00:00.47 | Gnarfoz | hehe yes, that's always confused me |
| 00:01.01 | znf | Gnarfoz, I'm pretty sure in US you don't have to bring your own medicine, bandages and syringes when you go at the hospital |
| 00:01.14 | Gnarfoz | they do have them there, but you have to pay dearly for them |
| 00:01.21 | Dark_Elf | funny part is most other countries think my country has got it all or something when we dont |
| 00:01.44 | znf | Also, I'm pretty sure you don't have to bribe the medic to operate on you |
| 00:02.00 | Gnarfoz | no, it's simply called "paying", not bribing |
| 00:02.01 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 00:02.07 | Ressy | Kinda glad right now that I live in Canada... |
| 00:02.21 | Dark_Elf | yeah but even if we dont have to bring they charge 5 bucks a pill in hospital and probably 5 bucks a bandage too tight wad hospitals |
| 00:02.28 | znf | Kid of a lady a few years ago had Peritonitis |
| 00:02.32 | znf | (bursting apendix) |
| 00:02.42 | znf | Doctor didn't look at the kid until she slipped him money |
| 00:03.00 | Xuerian | (And the joke is, it's still cheaper than here) |
| 00:03.10 | Xuerian | (though it's not really a joking matter) |
| 00:03.15 | Gnarfoz | that's not what peritonitis is btw |
| 00:03.22 | znf | oh, my bad |
| 00:03.27 | znf | it's called "peritonita" in Romanian |
| 00:03.33 | znf | I assumed it's similar in english |
| 00:03.59 | Gnarfoz | that'd be kind of a weird translation difference |
| 00:04.44 | znf | I guess it's simply "Appendicitis" in english |
| 00:04.45 | znf | oh well |
| 00:04.47 | Gnarfoz | wikipedia disagrees |
| 00:04.47 | Gnarfoz | http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apendicit%C4%83 |
| 00:04.59 | Gnarfoz | or agrees with me, either way |
| 00:05.08 | znf | medical term is "peritonita" |
| 00:05.21 | znf | https://www.google.ro/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_nf=3&tok=FlvhwUIXo_Ow-ZKWF4LNCg&cp=10&gs_id=1&xhr=t&q=peritonita&pf=p&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&oq=peritonita&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=33103e76deb17148&bpcl=38093640&biw=1680&bih=925&ion=1 |
| 00:05.40 | Gnarfoz | if it is, then I agree, you lack a proper healthcare system :p |
| 00:05.52 | Gnarfoz | also, that link leads me to google.ro without anything on it |
| 00:06.26 | znf | weird |
| 00:06.26 | Repo | xloot: 03Dridzt 07master * z2-alpha-3-g6c66293 Modules/Options (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Add XLoot_Master options too. |
| 00:06.49 | znf | not to mention overcrowded beds, shitty food (but that's everywhere) |
| 00:07.15 | znf | I swear, when they make soups, they probably take 1 chicken breast and dip it in 5 different soup pots |
| 00:07.19 | znf | just to "flavor" it a bit |
| 00:07.43 | Ressy | I think all hospitals around the world do that. |
| 00:07.49 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 00:08.02 | Ressy | crappy food. |
| 00:08.05 | Gnarfoz | you're wrong. |
| 00:08.16 | znf | See? German disagrees |
| 00:09.11 | znf | Seeing the new dancers outfit... I know what my GF is getting for x-mass |
| 00:09.13 | Gnarfoz | (also, is there "objectively" bad food? If it doesn't provide nourishment, it probably fails it purpose, I guess) |
| 00:09.31 | Repo | xloot: 03Dridzt 07master * z2-alpha-4-g22ec6d0 Modules/Monitor/XLoot_Monitor.toc: [+1 commit] Trivial .toc edits so it doesn't show as 'XLoot Options' in addons list. |
| 00:10.06 | sb | znf: overcrowded? more than 1 person / bed? :( |
| 00:10.13 | Gnarfoz | hug time! |
| 00:10.20 | znf | sb, no, but good luck FINDING a bet |
| 00:10.29 | znf | Gnarfoz, no taste food? |
| 00:10.45 | znf | Altough some hospitals in the country do ask patients to share beds... |
| 00:10.46 | znf | :-/ |
| 00:11.05 | Gnarfoz | have you ever seen The Matrix |
| 00:11.50 | Gnarfoz | food doesn't have to fulfill any taste requirements/wishes/expectations to serve its purpose :p |
| 00:12.44 | znf | Family usually brings food over |
| 00:12.58 | znf | I loathe the day that, eventually, one of my parents will have to go to the hospital :-/ |
| 00:13.04 | sb | bringing food to the hospital? ugh |
| 00:13.11 | Repo | xloot: 03Dridzt 07master * z2-alpha-5-ga7bde5d Modules/Master/XLoot_Master.toc: [+1 commit] .toc edit (not options either :) ) |
| 00:13.23 | Gnarfoz | might not even be a good idea, depending on why you're there ^^ |
| 00:14.04 | Ressy | Hubby wouldn't bring me food in the hospital after I had our son. He made me eat the hospital food. :( |
| 00:15.44 | sb | Gnarfoz: yup, exactly :D |
| 00:16.23 | sb | Ressy: well, food here isn't that bad (also, depends on why you are there - i had to eat bad stuff, but it was important to eat those thingies) |
| 00:17.01 | Ressy | They gave me stuff I told them I was allergic to. They forgot to check my chart. |
| 00:17.09 | Ressy | herp derps |
| 00:17.31 | Dark_Elf | here there is lot of bed bugs in hospital |
| 00:17.48 | Gnarfoz | so you said "I'm allergic to this, see my chart" and got something else? |
| 00:18.00 | Ressy | no.. They dropped it off and left. |
| 00:18.04 | Ressy | it had a cover |
| 00:18.17 | Ressy | I didn't get to the food til a few mins later, by which time they'd disappeared. |
| 00:18.30 | Gnarfoz | so you tell your nurse or something |
| 00:18.39 | Dark_Elf | they sent my dad home from hospital and less than month later he died in his bed, i found bed bugs on the bed |
| 00:18.49 | Gnarfoz | it's not like they're going to let you starve |
| 00:19.16 | Ressy | I was able to eat the sides of the meal they provided, but not the main. |
| 00:19.22 | Ressy | I didn't starve, but was still hungry |
| 00:19.25 | Gnarfoz | so, you told nobody? |
| 00:19.36 | Ressy | they couldn't do anything. |
| 00:19.44 | Gnarfoz | ... |
| 00:19.46 | Ressy | yeah |
| 00:19.59 | Ressy | more like nurse didn't wanna get off her butt |
| 00:20.32 | sb | Gnarfoz: she is right, they can't do anything here. i also had that problem. they have to order stuff ~4 before lunch-times |
| 00:21.08 | sb | otherwise its just yoghurt, zwieback and tea :D |
| 00:21.24 | Gnarfoz | I guess then it's the other direction: find someone else they fucked it up for and see if they have anything you can eat :D |
| 00:21.44 | Ressy | lol |
| 00:22.39 | Ressy | I had to beg hubby to grab me a cchocolate bar from a machine after going into labour at 6am, not giving birth til 3am next day... Only then could I eat, and everything was closed. |
| 00:23.13 | Gnarfoz | you're 1 day from giving birth and you have to BEG your husband for something so little? |
| 00:23.43 | znf | no sex for him for the next 5 years |
| 00:23.44 | znf | clearly |
| 00:23.48 | sb | 50! |
| 00:23.50 | Gnarfoz | unless she wants more children |
| 00:23.54 | Gnarfoz | :D from him? ;) |
| 00:24.01 | znf | sperm bank |
| 00:24.18 | Ressy | Nurses recommended I wait for breakfast. |
| 00:24.29 | Ressy | I however didn't want to. |
| 00:24.31 | Gnarfoz | (and without knowing any circumstances: wouldn't you even be able to get it yourself, before entering labour? or maybe I misread what you wrote) |
| 00:24.39 | Ressy | I'd already given birth |
| 00:24.40 | znf | and you went into Exorcist mode like ladies do when they go into labor and scream at them? :P |
| 00:24.49 | znf | at people* |
| 00:24.54 | Ressy | lol.. Naw |
| 00:25.00 | Ressy | I was fine once I got my epidural. :) |
| 00:25.13 | Gnarfoz | your what |
| 00:25.36 | Ressy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidural |
| 00:26.02 | Ressy | ie, numbed my entire body from about mid-back down to my toes. |
| 00:26.14 | Gnarfoz | uh |
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| 00:26.39 | Gnarfoz | ok? c-section? or can you actually give birth under that kind of anaesthesia? |
| 00:26.57 | Ressy | epidurals are normal. You can feel contractions, you just don't feel pain. |
| 00:26.58 | Gnarfoz | (not reading the whole thing right now) |
| 00:27.00 | sb | Gnarfoz: PDA, its standard procedure |
| 00:27.27 | Gnarfoz | sb: I wouldn't know, I've not been pregnant :D |
| 00:27.35 | sb | shame on you! :D |
| 00:28.29 | sb | got like ~10 pregnant girls (from school and stuff) on facebook posting stuff like that :p |
| 00:28.43 | Gnarfoz | you know, swapping just two words in that sentence... |
| 00:30.23 | Xuerian | Don't worry, that's how we read it too |
| 00:30.52 | sb | :( |
| 00:33.09 | znf | Ressy, I look like a sane smart person |
| 00:33.13 | znf | do you post facebook pics of your baby? |
| 00:33.27 | znf | you look* |
| 00:33.28 | znf | ... |
| 00:33.33 | znf | I'm not sane. |
| 00:33.46 | Gnarfoz | sane? she posts on tech support VOLUNTARILY |
| 00:33.48 | Ressy | znf: All the time. |
| 00:33.49 | Ressy | lmao |
| 00:33.58 | Ressy | hey hey now |
| 00:34.36 | Ressy | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/148185_10151233227177692_1965610402_n.jpg |
| 00:35.01 | znf | Gnarfoz, oh. |
| 00:35.04 | znf | that kind of person |
| 00:42.45 | sb | Gnarfoz: btw, that band has some nice songs |
| 00:43.27 | sb | got the new album from amazon after your tweet *sigh* |
| 00:45.14 | Gnarfoz | I don't :D |
| 00:45.22 | Gnarfoz | but wasn't the song YOU tweeted from it? |
| 00:45.28 | Gnarfoz | because it's not on the one I have |
| 00:45.34 | pompy1 | oh god lol .. http://nerdreactor.com/2012/11/09/blizzard-being-sued-over-authenticator-use/ |
| 00:46.29 | znf | yeah, funny |
| 00:47.31 | Ressy | 2 hacks? |
| 00:47.44 | sb | Gnarfoz: yup, was on rock antenne metal stream |
| 00:48.52 | Gnarfoz | ah, yeah, that stream rocks |
| 00:49.00 | Gnarfoz | literally, even |
| 00:49.03 | Ressy | Creator of that lawsuit's a moron. |
| 00:49.27 | Dark_Elf | i hope blizzard loses |
| 00:49.30 | Ressy | there was no hack in may.. Must've lied through his teeth to the lawyer to get it started |
| 00:51.18 | znf | Ressy, he's paying the bills :D |
| 00:51.25 | znf | Dark_Elf, why? |
| 00:51.28 | znf | that would be completely retarded |
| 00:51.32 | znf | the laywsuit itself is completely retarded |
| 00:51.43 | znf | it's an OPTIONAL layer of security |
| 00:51.48 | Dark_Elf | cause it sounds to me like bliz has made enuff profit off that silly thing |
| 00:51.49 | Ressy | Also.. loss of information due to negligence on the part of the customer (ie keyloggers obtained from other sites other than Blizzard's), isn't Blizzard's fault. As it is, when you go to change info in account management, most of the info is **** |
| 00:51.57 | Gnarfoz | they don't make any profit off it? |
| 00:51.58 | Ressy | Dark_Elf: Blizzard sells them at cost. |
| 00:52.01 | znf | Dark_Elf, it's $5... |
| 00:52.11 | znf | and last time I checked that included shipping |
| 00:52.16 | Gnarfoz | it does |
| 00:52.17 | Dark_Elf | and at 15 a month for wow it should be free in first place |
| 00:52.26 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 00:52.27 | Ressy | lawlz |
| 00:52.32 | znf | Are you retarded? |
| 00:53.00 | znf | Even my bank asked me for a 10 deposit on the token for e-banking... |
| 00:53.03 | Ressy | Out of US doesn't include shipping. I had to pay for shipping to get mine here. But they expressed them with FedEx, and got them in 3 days. |
| 00:53.09 | Gnarfoz | uhm? |
| 00:53.13 | Gnarfoz | sure EU includes shipping, too |
| 00:53.22 | znf | And the token for my e-banking is REQUIRED |
| 00:53.23 | Ressy | Shipped to Canada. |
| 00:53.25 | Ressy | from US |
| 00:53.28 | Gnarfoz | well |
| 00:53.39 | sb | just use the mobile authenticator :O |
| 00:53.40 | znf | Also, the mobile app is free |
| 00:53.43 | znf | also, WinAuth is free |
| 00:53.47 | Ressy | I bought'em before they existed |
| 00:53.53 | sb | i also did |
| 00:53.57 | sb | + i got 1 from blizzcon |
| 00:53.58 | Ressy | but yeah, thats an option which the person didn't take into account. |
| 00:54.19 | Dark_Elf | agin shouldnt need that stuff how many other games u play need an authnicator, i bet gw2 dont even have on |
| 00:54.27 | Ressy | you don't need an authenticator. |
| 00:54.38 | Ressy | Its just Wow is a target for keyloggers. |
| 00:54.53 | sb | yup, blizzard will lock your account if you are trying to log on from different ips |
| 00:54.58 | Ressy | Its an option so they don't have to do extra work in restoring accounts for people who don't know how to secure their computers. |
| 00:55.13 | Dark_Elf | sounds like a blizzard problem to me |
| 00:55.26 | Ressy | how is that a Blizzard problem, when customers can't secure their own computers? |
| 00:55.28 | znf | Dark_Elf, you don't need it |
| 00:55.30 | Ressy | Nothing to do with Blizzard. |
| 00:55.32 | Gnarfoz | sb: what blizzcon did you attend? |
| 00:55.33 | sb | so (oh the irony) you need an authenticator if you want another person so log in with your account :D |
| 00:55.39 | sb | Gnarfoz: last year |
| 00:55.40 | znf | sb, you don't |
| 00:55.52 | Gnarfoz | also, I bought mine before the cellphone ones existed, too, and it still hasn't failed |
| 00:55.52 | znf | sb, it's just gonna bug the shit out of you until it records both people's IPs as "ok" :P |
| 00:55.58 | Dark_Elf | never have issues with other games with unsecure information |
| 00:56.07 | znf | because other games are not a target for keyloggers |
| 00:56.12 | Gnarfoz | then you won't have them with Blizzard's games, either |
| 00:56.13 | sb | znf: thats why its easier to get winauth + share thingy |
| 00:56.17 | Gnarfoz | what was your point again? |
| 00:56.28 | znf | Tell me what other game had trojans/viruses specifically created to target those games? |
| 00:56.38 | Ressy | Maplestory |
| 00:56.43 | Gnarfoz | more than you think, I'm certain |
| 00:57.02 | Dark_Elf | well guess they need to code better to keep keyloggers out maybe that why microsoft has programmer release patches for their product free i may add monthly |
| 00:57.05 | znf | then again, You don't need it |
| 00:57.11 | Ressy | lmao |
| 00:57.12 | Gnarfoz | "code better" |
| 00:57.17 | Ressy | facepalms hard |
| 00:57.21 | znf | Dark_Elf, seriously, you're making a fool out of yourself |
| 00:57.23 | Gnarfoz | either you're 14 or you simply don't know what you're talking about |
| 00:57.24 | znf | stop it |
| 00:57.26 | Ressy | ^^^^ |
| 00:57.51 | Dark_Elf | i can make a fool out of myself to prove my point that blizzard needs to learn from microsoft |
| 00:57.52 | znf | What is to "code" better if people are retards and can't stay away from clicking that e-mail with "HERP DERP FREE PONY IF YOU GIVE US YOUSERNAME / PASSWORD"? |
| 00:57.58 | Ressy | Considering half the keyloggers warden catches, most AVs don't.. |
| 00:58.05 | Gnarfoz | warden for the lulz |
| 00:58.15 | znf | Dark_Elf, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM WITH THE SOFTWARE |
| 00:58.23 | znf | the software asks for username/password |
| 00:58.23 | Ressy | Thats when I work with the user, get the malware, and send it to Blizz & the AVs |
| 00:58.27 | znf | BASIC auth |
| 00:58.30 | znf | wtf is wrong with you? |
| 00:58.33 | znf | waht else is to code? |
| 00:58.36 | Gnarfoz | if warden could actually catch keyloggers, it'd be violating laws :D |
| 00:58.36 | Dark_Elf | then why need an authenicator? |
| 00:58.41 | znf | Dark_Elf, you don't???? |
| 00:58.42 | Gnarfoz | who said you NEED one? |
| 00:58.48 | Gnarfoz | that's entirely something you said |
| 00:58.50 | Ressy | Gnarfoz: It does. If something looks at wow, it crashes. |
| 00:58.56 | Gnarfoz | ahahaha |
| 00:59.03 | Gnarfoz | seriously, no |
| 00:59.06 | znf | You do NOT need an authenticator |
| 00:59.11 | Dark_Elf | then why sell it? |
| 00:59.22 | znf | Because people are idiots and can't secure their account? |
| 00:59.26 | Ressy | lol |
| 00:59.28 | znf | like, not using public computers? |
| 00:59.30 | Gnarfoz | Xuerian: argh, my UI is full of loot rolls |
| 00:59.31 | znf | sharing username/password? |
| 00:59.34 | Gnarfoz | that don't disappear |
| 00:59.41 | Dark_Elf | the account is with blizzard its not on our end |
| 00:59.47 | znf | Dark_Elf, what? |
| 00:59.48 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: well that's not normal. |
| 00:59.57 | Gnarfoz | I'm sure it isn't |
| 01:00.08 | znf | Dark_Elf, dude, let me explain it to you |
| 01:00.14 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: My fault I'm sure, let me finish skinning the bonus roll frame and I'll walk into RFC and fix that |
| 01:00.21 | znf | Dark_Elf, YOU create an account with blizzard when you buy a product. |
| 01:00.30 | Gnarfoz | I'll get you the errors in a minute, Xuerian |
| 01:00.44 | znf | Dark_Elf, they don't hand that username/password to you to make use of it |
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| 01:01.06 | znf | It's your responsability to keep that information safe. |
| 01:01.34 | znf | How would blizzard stop you from writing the username/password of your wow account on a whiteboard for the whole world to see it? |
| 01:01.40 | znf | And how would you stop that? |
| 01:01.42 | Gnarfoz | Xuerian: http://www.wowace.com/paste/6542/ http://www.wowace.com/paste/6543/ |
| 01:02.10 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: I think Dridzt just fixed that |
| 01:02.12 | Xuerian | Try updating |
| 01:02.47 | Dark_Elf | i suppose it user fault if someone hack blizzard server gains access to all user accounts and passwords too |
| 01:02.51 | Gnarfoz | Xuerian: oh, entirely possible. last updated earlier when you said I want to use XLoot now =) |
| 01:02.57 | znf | Dark_Elf, but that's not the case... |
| 01:03.06 | Dark_Elf | but yet it happened |
| 01:03.13 | znf | Dark_Elf, that happened once, and all users were urged to change their username/password |
| 01:03.22 | znf | They didn't ask people to buy authenticators... |
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| 01:03.37 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: Your implication that I tested and missed that error assumes I actually tested it against real rolls :p |
| 01:03.40 | znf | Also, it's not clear that passwords were leaked... |
| 01:04.12 | Dark_Elf | anyways this argument is pointless lets get back to bitchin about addons lol |
| 01:04.27 | znf | "cryptographically scrambled versions of Battle.net passwords (not actual passwords) for players on North American servers were taken." |
| 01:04.36 | znf | which is why they urged players to change them |
| 01:04.48 | znf | because it takes time for anyone to decrypt those passwords |
| 01:04.52 | Dark_Elf | thats an admitance to being hacked |
| 01:05.05 | Ressy | They had to admit it under US law. |
| 01:05.13 | znf | really, I'm amazed how ignorant you can be |
| 01:05.18 | Ressy | It was a big thing. Did you miss it or something? |
| 01:05.36 | znf | Bottom point is that the authenticator is NOT required for normal gameplay. |
| 01:05.37 | Dark_Elf | yes im ignorant |
| 01:05.52 | Dark_Elf | not required but shouldnt be sold either |
| 01:06.00 | Ressy | .... |
| 01:06.00 | znf | O.O |
| 01:06.01 | znf | Why? |
| 01:06.06 | znf | Why shouldn't it be sold? |
| 01:06.09 | Ressy | so, added protection is a bad thing? |
| 01:06.30 | znf | I'm guessing that if you never have a car accident, they shouldn't put airbags in your car, right? |
| 01:06.37 | Ressy | especially when it means Blizzard's ticket queue times drop because they nee to do less restorations |
| 01:06.40 | Dark_Elf | damn i got a free firewall why should i need protection |
| 01:06.44 | Ressy | .... |
| 01:07.00 | znf | what's a firewall got to do with this? |
| 01:07.08 | Ressy | and you know how easily some of this malware disables that shit? |
| 01:07.11 | znf | Do you understand how a firewall works? |
| 01:07.27 | znf | or what the firewall's task is? |
| 01:07.30 | Dark_Elf | im not gonna argue about how shitty blizzard servers are, it should be on their end, its something else for them to make money, i am done with this argument. |
| 01:07.49 | znf | Dude, if I had op powers I'd kick and ban you forever... |
| 01:07.50 | Ressy | THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT YOU GETTING MALWARE ON YOUR OWN COMPUTER |
| 01:08.06 | Ressy | if you get malware, you essentially hand hackers your password |
| 01:08.10 | znf | You're basically saying "I'm paying $15/month, so they should come fix my computer for free every day" |
| 01:08.12 | Ressy | how the hell is blizzard going to prevent that |
| 01:08.13 | Ressy | seriously |
| 01:08.21 | Dark_Elf | im sure all in this room would ban me forever, but i just stating my opinion |
| 01:08.40 | znf | Uneducated oppinion. |
| 01:08.49 | Dark_Elf | uneducated? |
| 01:09.03 | znf | You clearly have no idea how this stuff works and what an authenticator is for. |
| 01:09.05 | Dark_Elf | is college educated thank you |
| 01:09.07 | Xuerian | Dark_Elf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s96sGHwMhZw |
| 01:09.22 | znf | College educated? You wasted your money, sorry. |
| 01:09.32 | Dark_Elf | yes i did i agree |
| 01:10.00 | Ressy | you may be college educated, but you obviously didn't have any courses when it comes to computer security. |
| 01:10.19 | Dark_Elf | i dont think blizzard did either for that matter |
| 01:10.28 | Gnarfoz | because companies don't go to college. |
| 01:10.37 | Kalroth | companies are people too |
| 01:10.42 | Gnarfoz | figuring this out doesn't require any degree of any sort, it just requires a brain |
| 01:10.45 | Dark_Elf | esp since they can have a stupid diablo 3 server take down a wow server that is pathetic |
| 01:10.45 | Kalroth | dont bully them |
| 01:10.47 | Gnarfoz | Kalroth: they are? :D |
| 01:10.56 | Gnarfoz | Dark_Elf: what the what |
| 01:10.58 | Kalroth | yes just ask Romney and his friends |
| 01:11.06 | znf | Wait, what? D3 server take down wow server? |
| 01:11.11 | znf | That never happened... |
| 01:11.30 | Ressy | auth servers came down under strain the first few days of d3. |
| 01:11.37 | Dark_Elf | stupid ass company should have paid server like wow not on an unpaid server like d3 |
| 01:11.37 | Kalroth | i think he means battle.net downtime, which usually affects all Blizzard games |
| 01:11.41 | Ressy | til they were able to retask them. |
| 01:12.04 | quiescens | o.o |
| 01:12.17 | Ressy | People paid for d3 too. |
| 01:12.18 | sb | goto sleep quiescens |
| 01:12.23 | Gnarfoz | actually, that's something they could've prevented |
| 01:12.27 | Dark_Elf | battle net is the problem to many games same server they need separate battlenet for each game |
| 01:12.35 | quiescens | ): |
| 01:12.37 | Gnarfoz | even though I don't remember the d3 release surge affecting wow logins AT ALL |
| 01:12.44 | Ressy | yeah Gnarfoz. They weren't expecting that many logins. |
| 01:12.49 | Gnarfoz | Dark_Elf: you realize the insanity of that statement? |
| 01:13.08 | Xuerian | Ressy: Awwwww don't bring that up |
| 01:13.12 | Xuerian | No one wants to remember they paid for that :p |
| 01:13.17 | Gnarfoz | Dark_Elf: the POINT of battle.net is consolidation, "separate battle.net" could just as well be translated as "no battle.net" :D |
| 01:13.18 | Dark_Elf | it not insanity, why should d3 players be on same servers as wow people |
| 01:13.23 | Gnarfoz | the are not |
| 01:13.24 | Ressy | lawlz |
| 01:13.25 | znf | Dark_Elf, they're not |
| 01:13.41 | znf | See? That's why your opinion is uneducated. |
| 01:13.43 | Xuerian | Chat server ~= game server. 0_o |
| 01:13.56 | pompy1 | grabs popcorn, all it took was 1 little link. :D |
| 01:14.04 | Gnarfoz | Xuerian: that's something else, again |
| 01:14.09 | Ressy | Wow game servers are all over the US. D3's servers I do believe are all down in Cali. |
| 01:14.17 | Gnarfoz | who cares about that |
| 01:14.28 | znf | Anyway, I don't remember the auth servers on EU preventing WoW logins |
| 01:14.36 | Gnarfoz | znf: ^^^^ |
| 01:14.54 | Gnarfoz | and if they did in the US, then yes, that's an avoidable problem |
| 01:15.11 | znf | But it's a far fetch from "blizzard bad herp derp" |
| 01:15.14 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: I shouldn't have stuck my foot in the conversation to begin with :p |
| 01:15.21 | znf | Tech doesn't really scale indefinately. |
| 01:15.25 | Dark_Elf | :p |
| 01:15.31 | znf | You can't simply throw more servers at an issue in hopes it fixes it. |
| 01:15.33 | Gnarfoz | infinitely, you mean |
| 01:15.39 | znf | Gnarfoz, yes |
| 01:15.47 | Gnarfoz | znf: and yes, you can, if you plan for it from the start :> |
| 01:15.57 | Gnarfoz | it's called horizontal scalability |
| 01:16.08 | quiescens | shrug |
| 01:16.15 | znf | Also, they learned from that, looking at the MoP launch :P |
| 01:16.16 | Dark_Elf | none the less i hope whoever buys blizzard has better servers lol |
| 01:16.26 | znf | Dark_Elf, nobody is going to do that |
| 01:16.37 | znf | It's simply not a good investment. |
| 01:16.42 | Gnarfoz | znf: actually, someone might, since ActiBlizz thought of selling them? |
| 01:16.45 | quiescens | its a great idea in theory to scale things up for a one time burst |
| 01:17.00 | quiescens | but is actually hard to justify when you run your own infrastructure |
| 01:17.02 | Gnarfoz | quiescens: that's not what I meant |
| 01:17.02 | znf | Let's say you buy 100 more servers for launch day. |
| 01:17.08 | Gnarfoz | and to you, too, znf |
| 01:17.10 | quiescens | what do they do with all the extra systems afterwards |
| 01:17.20 | znf | Those servers are probably not gonna see much usage after the 1st week |
| 01:17.25 | Dark_Elf | they should of bought some that for sure |
| 01:17.26 | Gnarfoz | there's no need to scale to idiotic levels just to have one system not affect another |
| 01:17.33 | Gnarfoz | "should of" does not exist |
| 01:17.34 | znf | Sure, you can "rent" servers |
| 01:17.42 | znf | but they run their own infrastructure |
| 01:17.53 | znf | That means you need more server space, more racks, more switches etc. etc. etc. |
| 01:17.56 | znf | For 1 day... |
| 01:17.57 | quiescens | in all probability they did get extra capacity |
| 01:18.03 | znf | yeah, they most likely did |
| 01:18.07 | quiescens | but you would only want to go so far |
| 01:18.08 | Dark_Elf | should have i forgot |
| 01:18.11 | Gnarfoz | well, this wasn't about "d3 login servers broke on day 1" |
| 01:18.38 | Gnarfoz | it was about "d3 launch affected wow logins" (which I can't remember happening, but I'm not in the same region) |
| 01:19.05 | Dark_Elf | i know it did cause wow was down too that day |
| 01:19.09 | Gnarfoz | uhm |
| 01:19.19 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 01:19.24 | Gnarfoz | logins, or what? |
| 01:19.32 | sb | was a wednesday |
| 01:19.36 | sb | weekly maintenance :p |
| 01:19.38 | Gnarfoz | so? |
| 01:19.40 | Gnarfoz | not in the US. |
| 01:19.42 | Dark_Elf | it fact i think it was like 10-12 hours |
| 01:19.44 | Gnarfoz | that's tuesday |
| 01:19.45 | znf | You mean "wow login was down for 2-3 hours while they fixed auth servers"? |
| 01:19.55 | znf | No it wasn't 10-12 hours... |
| 01:20.00 | znf | You're talking out of your ass |
| 01:20.07 | Gnarfoz | you're noticing this NOW? |
| 01:20.08 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 01:20.21 | Dark_Elf | took u long enuff to figure that out |
| 01:20.28 | znf | On EU I could login perfectly fine in D3 after 2-3 hours when people stopped hammering the login servers |
| 01:20.39 | Gnarfoz | same |
| 01:20.51 | Gnarfoz | and wow worked fine all along |
| 01:20.53 | Gnarfoz | *shrug* |
| 01:21.35 | Dark_Elf | shrugs |
| 01:27.02 | znf | I hate people. |
| 01:27.11 | quiescens | ): |
| 01:27.18 | znf | We asked our raiders to try to maximize their chars: pvp, daily quests, you know, stuff |
| 01:27.26 | znf | So this guy claims he has no time to do dailies and pvp |
| 01:27.34 | znf | yet he just got Terrific Trio |
| 01:27.35 | znf | ... |
| 01:27.57 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 01:28.05 | znf | good thing we demoted him to social |
| 01:28.14 | Gnarfoz | I don't have time for pvp, either, but I'm also still at one char >85 |
| 01:28.51 | Gnarfoz | and I'm only still up because I'm doing HC & scenario for daily VP bonus |
| 01:29.22 | znf | I have 2 chars at 90 |
| 01:29.29 | znf | the 2nd is my farming druid\ |
| 01:29.41 | znf | But I pretty much have everything "maxxed" that I could... |
| 01:29.54 | znf | that includes pvp gear and all factions that grant any kind of gear maxxed |
| 01:30.11 | pompy1 | znf: really yeah, and i cant stand ppl who only log in to raid. >< |
| 01:31.15 | znf | but this guy doesn't :P |
| 01:31.18 | znf | he's leveling alts |
| 01:31.24 | znf | and claims he has no time for maxxing his char |
| 01:36.17 | znf | I saw an episode of Family Guy today on Hulu |
| 01:36.24 | znf | Is it me or that show is incredibly retarded? |
| 01:37.13 | Dark_Elf | pvp and dailies are quick |
| 01:37.46 | Dark_Elf | he could level alts doing both those probably quicker |
| 01:39.04 | znf | well, the golden lotus ones are a bitch |
| 01:39.09 | znf | I hated every second of doing those |
| 01:39.20 | znf | also, my arena matches usually last up to 30 minutes |
| 01:40.23 | Dark_Elf | i only do warsong gulch though so 15 minutes and it over lol |
| 01:41.24 | Gnarfoz | sb: great, expendables 2 with... german and russian audio. I should pay more attention when leeching shit at LAN party |
| 01:41.47 | znf | Dark_Elf, I'm specifically refering to arenas |
| 01:42.02 | znf | as Conquest Points gear is quite a good alternative to PvE gear |
| 01:42.42 | znf | Torhal, Veiled Stair has no pet info data |
| 01:42.52 | znf | using a "zone only" filter returns blank |
| 01:43.19 | Torhal | znf: Don't blame me: I parse that shit directly from the PetJournal. It's wrong as fuck. |
| 01:43.32 | sb | znf: i have only 2 slots which could be "upgraded" with CP gear (chest + legs) - so no need to do shitty pvp :p |
| 01:43.43 | Repo | xloot: 03Xuerian 07master * z3-alpha / (5 files in 3 directories): [+7 commits] (3 truncated) |
| 01:43.44 | Repo | 2b1d60e: Skin Bonus Roll frame |
| 01:43.44 | Repo | 15573d6: Make anchors check for child.scale_mod |
| 01:43.44 | Repo | 0036c67: Add default skin set name or set |
| 01:43.45 | sb | no time for this stuff :/ |
| 01:43.45 | Repo | 1e75590: Error on missing skin set |
| 01:43.46 | znf | sb, 483 > 476 gear |
| 01:43.52 | Repo | xloot: 03Xuerian 04z3-alpha * a949627 /: [new tag] Skin bonus roll frame |
| 01:44.05 | sb | znf: as i said, chest + legs - doesnt matter :p |
| 01:44.12 | znf | sure it does O.O |
| 01:45.48 | sb | yay mrrobot |
| 01:46.06 | sb | MY GEAR 129321 , MY GEAR - OPTIMIZED OPTIMIZED129118 |
| 01:46.28 | znf | heh |
| 01:46.35 | sb | ah, i see, stupid run speed enchant |
| 01:46.38 | znf | ^^ |
| 01:46.58 | Repo | xloot: 03Xuerian 07master * z3a-alpha XLoot.lua: [+1 commit] Add Master to list of old versions disabled automatically/printed to chat |
| 01:47.00 | Repo | xloot: 03Xuerian 04z3a-alpha * 7cdc017 /: [new tag] Warn about old version of Master |
| 01:47.10 | znf | ffs, it's 2 hours and 15 minutes to server restart |
| 01:47.12 | znf | go home people |
| 01:47.20 | znf | I need to be home by 6 at server restart! |
| 01:47.25 | sb | oh? another server restart? |
| 01:47.35 | sb | so i should get up early *sigh* |
| 01:47.55 | sb | ~wowlaert |
| 01:47.56 | znf | early? it's 2 hours :P |
| 01:48.00 | sb | ~wowalert |
| 01:48.00 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 01:48.12 | sb | right :D |
| 01:48.16 | sb | but i'm tired |
| 01:48.51 | sb | also, cant do galleon at 5, no players to group up |
| 01:49.31 | znf | GO HOME PEOPLE! YOU'RE DRUNK! |
| 01:49.55 | Xuerian | likes git push |
| 01:49.58 | Repo | xloot: 03Xuerian 07master * z3b-alpha Modules/Group/Group.lua: [+1 commit] Testing changes is for lame-o's |
| 01:49.59 | Repo | xloot: 03Xuerian 04z3b-alpha * 6cfb33f /: [new tag] Whoops |
| 01:51.23 | znf | I'm gonna lag so much on gear upgrades from now on |
| 01:51.25 | sb | oh, skinned bonus roll frame? will test tomorrow in LFR |
| 01:51.29 | sb | why? |
| 01:51.34 | znf | I'm not gonna bid on anything until sha-touched weapons |
| 01:51.40 | sb | *sigh* |
| 01:51.48 | znf | Don't really care much anyway |
| 01:51.48 | znf | :P |
| 01:52.09 | znf | Even if I stay like this for a month, I'll still out-dps 90% of the guild |
| 01:53.21 | Dark_Elf | i hope 5.1 releases tuesday |
| 01:53.56 | znf | haha |
| 01:53.58 | znf | you're funny |
| 01:54.40 | Ressy | if beta's build was 'release candidate' there'd be a chance. |
| 01:54.44 | sb | nah |
| 01:54.53 | sb | "we don't have an eta of an eta" was in some blue post 2-3 days ago |
| 01:55.01 | Ressy | but its not even close to that yet |
| 01:55.14 | sb | another 2-4 weeks |
| 01:57.21 | znf | I hope it's only 2 :P |
| 01:58.20 | pompy1 | 2 for US 4 for EU |
| 01:58.21 | pompy1 | :P |
| 02:00.19 | Dark_Elf | wont be funny if it happens lol |
| 02:06.01 | znf | haha, just seen a chinese bot \ |
| 02:06.07 | znf | lvl85, was flying in V4W :D |
| 02:20.17 | pompy1 | oh god lol http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/603996_10152262290440383_821290472_n.jpg |
| 02:21.19 | znf | lol |
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| 02:46.35 | pompy1 | http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/302729_510696008955119_1651209894_n.jpg |
| 02:50.10 | znf | ~wowalert |
| 02:50.10 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 02:51.31 | znf | no more alert... |
| 02:51.34 | znf | Fisker, go to sleep |
| 02:53.31 | Repo | raidbuffstatus: 03oscarucb * r562 Core.lua: |
| 02:53.32 | Repo | tickt 366: fix spam filter for feast announces to prevent duplicates |
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| 05:12.23 | Xuerian | So, a broker display that can be docked to the top of the screen and show on mouseover. |
| 05:12.54 | durcyn | chocolatebar |
| 05:19.32 | Xuerian | durcyn: Thanks |
| 05:30.40 | Megalon | also try a real chocolatebar |
| 05:31.01 | Megalon | it gives the same happy feelings as finding the addon you searched |
| 05:41.08 | znf | Is there a simple boolean or a simple function that can return if you have a pet learned or not (or captured) |
| 05:49.32 | znf | ~wowalert |
| 05:49.32 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 06:06.28 | Gnarfoz | so znf |
| 06:06.33 | Gnarfoz | where are those restarts |
| 06:08.44 | Repo | xperl: 03asixandur * r784 XPerl_Player/XPerl_Player.lua: Final fix for Druid Eclipse Bar, this really works |
| 06:11.42 | znf | Gnarfoz, they removed the message from logon |
| 06:17.54 | Repo | xperl: 03asixandur * r785 XPerl_Player/XPerl_Player.lua: Modified fix to avoid talent points change event |
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| 06:59.42 | Dark_Elf | people were talking about wanting to make the carbonite maps standalone, i am surprised they didnt want to resurrect cartographer, that would be the approach i would take |
| 07:01.48 | znf | I don't understand why would people want that? |
| 07:01.54 | znf | Cartographer was bloated. |
| 07:02.05 | znf | And the map in carbonite is horrible |
| 07:02.55 | Dark_Elf | well its cause the current versions uses 2 versions of the maps to render |
| 07:03.24 | Dark_Elf | depending on whether u in new area or old |
| 07:04.07 | durcyn | you said carbonite with a straight face, get out. |
| 07:04.22 | Dark_Elf | sorry |
| 07:05.47 | Dark_Elf | but really the idea of google style maps, and an unfinished project, hmmmmm |
| 07:08.23 | Dark_Elf | guess i remember to much stuff from bc and earlier |
| 07:08.45 | Dark_Elf | when carbonite was just a puppy |
| 07:09.07 | Dark_Elf | and cartographer was the top download |
| 07:09.59 | Dark_Elf | long live ckknight, u know you want to say it! |
| 07:10.14 | durcyn | i hope he gets aids, i'll say that |
| 07:10.27 | Dark_Elf | :p |
| 07:11.27 | End_ | znf: on checking if you know a pet: not until 5.1. Until then you need to deal with scanning the pet journal and filters and stuff |
| 07:12.56 | znf | Dark_Elf, stop praising ckk |
| 07:12.58 | znf | he did more harm than good |
| 07:13.17 | znf | people still keep trying to fix the stuff he left behind abandoned |
| 07:13.39 | Dark_Elf | no |
| 07:15.15 | Dark_Elf | guess that means it was good stuff, u know it |
| 07:16.04 | znf | not really |
| 07:16.33 | znf | wowstead is a horrible mess, was his work |
| 07:16.45 | Dark_Elf | starts work on cartographer 5.0 |
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| 07:19.33 | Xuerian | You know what map I miss |
| 07:19.36 | Xuerian | yAtlas. |
| 07:19.50 | Xuerian | That thing was the greatest thing since sliced gnomes |
| 07:20.29 | Dark_Elf | dang that is old |
| 07:20.43 | Xuerian | Yep |
| 07:21.35 | Dark_Elf | starts a kickstarter project for yAtlas lol |
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| 07:23.26 | Dark_Elf | David Petraeus stepped down as director of the CIA on Friday, dang if i was him i wouldnt have, they didnt make clinton step down, so why did he |
| 07:23.43 | znf | Why did he step down? |
| 07:23.49 | durcyn | because congress can't subpoena him if he resigns. |
| 07:23.56 | Dark_Elf | he had affair |
| 07:27.15 | znf | so many pets in Jade Forrest o.o |
| 07:27.41 | znf | (pet types) |
| 07:28.40 | Dark_Elf | wonder if there many in stranglehorn? |
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| 07:31.04 | Dark_Elf | pulls up old.wowace.com to download an old gem |
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| 07:32.49 | Dark_Elf | shh dont tell anyone about the old site the one where all the libraries updates would repackage the addons, and someone would update a translation in ace and about 500 addons would update, gosh i miss those days |
| 07:36.55 | Dark_Elf | ok guess will search my harddrive i got the last version, just got to find it again lol |
| 07:42.09 | durcyn | be sure to narrate the entire insipid process for us. |
| 07:42.47 | Dark_Elf | nah im done |
| 07:55.41 | Repo | serenity-now: 03calahil * r6 SerenityNow (7 files in 2 directories): (1 line trimmed from commit message) |
| 07:55.41 | Repo | -Added a default class selection for the cooldown Config |
| 07:55.42 | Repo | -Added a check to see if target became friendly and remove the debuff timers. |
| 07:55.42 | Repo | -Added the functionality to hide the timer bars when changing targets and only show the new targets debuff timers. |
| 07:55.43 | Repo | -Added both Heroism and Bloodlust to the cd table to avoid wonkiness in the init of the variable. |
| 07:56.40 | Repo | serenity-now: 03calahil 041.0 * r7 : Tagging as 1.0 |
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| 08:23.07 | Repo | big-wigs: 03wetxius * r9420 / (2 files in 2 directories): Better translation. |
| 09:12.10 | Repo | inline-aura: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.8.8-3-g6a396cd Display.lua: [+1 commit] Added my own overlay glow system to avoid tainting Blizzard's one. |
| 09:19.21 | Repo | focus-interrupt-sounds: 03corg * r77 FocusInterruptSounds.lua: FocusInterruptSounds: |
| 09:19.21 | Repo | - Fix nil error (probably caused by very fast casts such as Nature's Swiftness + Healing Touch) |
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| 10:18.46 | Repo | 5cf3254: Use the PostSet hook in DataSource and Junk modules. |
| 10:18.46 | Repo | c4a070b: Added font options to the currency module. |
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| 11:12.37 | Repo | big-wigs: 03pettigrow * r9421 / (3 files in 3 directories): frFR Update |
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| 11:53.45 | Repo | big-wigs: 03pettigrow * r9422 HeartOfFear/Garalon.lua: HeartOfFear/Garalon: fix typo |
| 11:54.00 | quiescens | moo |
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| 13:11.46 | Fisker | we are waiting znf |
| 13:14.55 | sb | yes, we are |
| 13:20.21 | quiescens | waits |
| 13:20.31 | quiescens | o.o |
| 13:24.34 | sb | what are we waiting for Fisker? |
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| 13:53.51 | Theladyjay | anyone on? |
| 13:54.13 | Theladyjay | I found in your FAQs that I could report bugs here for your GatherMate2 addon |
| 13:54.26 | Theladyjay | for whatever reason, copper nodes are not working properly |
| 13:54.46 | Theladyjay | they show up on the map, but every time I get near them the circle goes hollow even if the node is available to mine |
| 13:54.59 | Theladyjay | I have not noticed this problem when mining ghost iron |
| 13:55.03 | Theladyjay | only when mining copper |
| 13:55.22 | kagaro | it only ever shows possible node locations |
| 13:55.42 | kagaro | no ingame addon can see the blips for the actual nodes |
| 13:55.55 | Theladyjay | right, it shows the possible locations first |
| 13:56.09 | Theladyjay | but when I get near those possible locations |
| 13:56.19 | Theladyjay | the locations that actually HAVE available nodes remain filled in |
| 13:56.30 | Theladyjay | while all nodes that are NOT available disappear and the circle goes hollow |
| 13:56.40 | Theladyjay | it's been working this way since I installed the addon |
| 13:56.45 | Theladyjay | and it's still working for ghost iron |
| 13:56.53 | Theladyjay | but for whatever reason, copper is not working this way |
| 13:57.01 | Theladyjay | at least not south of org |
| 13:57.25 | Theladyjay | another strange thing is I no longer see the sparkles above the copper ore |
| 13:57.40 | Theladyjay | I'm not sure why this is, especially when my toon's profession is mining |
| 13:57.40 | kagaro | gathermate only has hollow circle images, it doesnt provide any 'filled' circles |
| 13:57.58 | kagaro | so i dont understand your issue |
| 13:58.11 | Theladyjay | are you sure we're talking about the same add-on then...? |
| 13:58.14 | Theladyjay | GatherMate2 |
| 13:58.18 | Theladyjay | plus GatherMate2_Data |
| 13:58.20 | kagaro | yes |
| 13:58.27 | Theladyjay | I have no other gatherer installed |
| 13:58.30 | Theladyjay | that's the only thing I hve |
| 13:58.34 | Theladyjay | and that's how it's been working |
| 13:59.16 | kagaro | well i havent changed anything in it for a few weeks |
| 13:59.21 | EthanCentaurai | are you actually Tracking Minerals? :p |
| 13:59.28 | EthanCentaurai | the sparkles only show when tracking |
| 13:59.29 | Theladyjay | yes |
| 13:59.32 | kagaro | and if your not seeing the sparkles .. your not tracking minerals |
| 14:00.35 | EthanCentaurai | the "filled in" blips are probably GatherMate2's circles with the Track Minerals blips inside them |
| 14:01.37 | Theladyjay | :) gotcha, it was the blizz setting |
| 14:01.42 | Theladyjay | thanks |
| 14:03.30 | EthanCentaurai | that's my good deed of the day done |
| 14:03.39 | EthanCentaurai | I need to be evil to someone now to balance this |
| 14:08.31 | ZaB|SHC| | kagaro: is it possible to add a keyboard shortcut to hide nodes on the map (just like the one for the minimap)? |
| 14:08.45 | kagaro | there should be an option for that already |
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| 14:09.45 | kagaro | check the main keybidings window |
| 14:10.37 | kagaro | ohh my bad you wanted one for the main map |
| 14:10.43 | ZaB|SHC| | right |
| 14:10.48 | kagaro | ill put it on my list of todos |
| 14:11.17 | ZaB|SHC| | would be nice. if you don't have time, i could code it myself and provide a patch |
| 14:11.59 | ZaB|SHC| | next thing. heading for setting this shortcut in the main keybindings menu doesn't show up (german locale). |
| 14:13.09 | Repo | big-wigs: 03Maat * r9423 HeartOfFear/Zorlok.lua: dance |
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| 14:22.59 | Repo | adibags: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.6-beta-1-11-g9b216bd / (7 files in 4 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 14:23.01 | Repo | 9b216bd: Locales updated. |
| 14:23.01 | Repo | 959edbe: Use the new font system in core and currency module. |
| 14:23.02 | Repo | 51d0862: Refactor font-related code and moved it into its own file. |
| 14:30.23 | ZaB|SHC| | kagaro: to fix the last issue, change line 14 in Config.lua to BINDING_HEADER_GatherMate2 = "GatherMate2" |
| 14:55.31 | Repo | big-wigs: 03Maat * r9424 HeartOfFear/Zorlok.lua: add normal spellId dance and fix berserk |
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| 15:27.33 | Repo | big-wigs: 03Maat * r9425 HeartOfFear/Tayak.lua: fix proximity not opening on engage |
| 15:28.33 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r9426 HeartOfFear (6 files in 2 directories): Zorlok: fix lfr id's |
| 15:37.34 | Repo | big-wigs: 03Maat * r9427 HeartOfFear/Shekzeer.lua: add consuming terror |
| 15:37.34 | Repo | fix engage and phase mess |
| 15:37.35 | Repo | fix eyes icon |
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| 15:42.14 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r9428 HeartOfFear/Tayak.lua: |
| 15:42.15 | Repo | Tayak: reopen normal proximity after a strike and close it in p2 |
| 15:59.59 | EthanCentaurai | ok so... even though I deleted my tags, the packager still repackages all the tags |
| 16:00.17 | EthanCentaurai | I wonder if it's still looking at the tags in the SVN repo... |
| 16:01.10 | EthanCentaurai | ay yi yi, I didn't have this problem when I converted Chinchilla to git >.< |
| 16:01.56 | EthanCentaurai | Torhal: help! |
| 16:02.14 | Stanzilla | changing repos on curseforge is like the worst thing you can do :D |
| 16:02.17 | Stanzilla | it kills everything |
| 16:03.04 | nevcairiel | i told him that |
| 16:03.29 | EthanCentaurai | I am not paying 60 bucks for a subversion client |
| 16:03.54 | Stanzilla | tortoise is free |
| 16:04.05 | EthanCentaurai | I'm on a Mac |
| 16:04.14 | Stanzilla | windows is 30 dollars |
| 16:04.47 | Stanzilla | also I'm pretty sure that there are free svn clients for os x :o |
| 16:04.59 | nevcairiel | command line if anything |
| 16:07.16 | Stanzilla | might ask our resident os x bitches what they use Torhal|work kagaro Kaelten and MysticalOS |
| 16:07.46 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r9429 Plugins/Proximity.lua: Proximity: fix an error |
| 16:08.10 | EthanCentaurai | Kaelten uses Hg |
| 16:08.44 | EthanCentaurai | pretty sure Torhal uses git |
| 16:08.48 | Stanzilla | true but I'm pretty sure he has something for svn, too :) also durcyn |
| 16:09.11 | Repo | atlasloot-enhanced: 03celellach * r3947 / (5 files in 5 directories): |
| 16:09.11 | Repo | Added Mists of Pandaria "Glorious!" Rare mobs and "Lost and Found" rare items. |
| 16:09.12 | nevcairiel | a lot of libraries and old projects are still in svn, they will have clients for them :p |
| 16:31.40 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 16:31.49 | Fisker | can't you punch time in the face? |
| 16:34.50 | Fisker | pls Stanzilla |
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| 16:44.43 | MysticalOS2 | the "dance" ids don't fire a spell cast start event, that's SPELL_AURA_APPLIED after the spell cast start of ID 127834 |
| 16:45.35 | Gnarfoz | EthanCentaurai: you never looked, did you? http://www.smartsvn.com/download http://www.versionsapp.com/ http://www.zennaware.com/cornerstone/ http://scplugin.tigris.org/ http://gigaom.com/apple/12-subversion-apps-for-os-x/ http://stackoverflow.com/questions/899/best-subversion-client-for-mac-os |
| 16:45.40 | MysticalOS2 | svn is being goofy for me today. :\ |
| 16:46.03 | MysticalOS2 | UUID doesn't match expected UUID :( |
| 16:46.20 | Gnarfoz | MysticalOS2: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/subversion-rollbacks-for-a-subset-of-repositories/ |
| 16:46.49 | EthanCentaurai | Gnarfoz: I did, but all the ones I've found either suck, are out of date or simply don't work |
| 16:46.51 | MysticalOS2 | ah |
| 16:46.53 | MysticalOS2 | well then |
| 16:46.59 | Gnarfoz | EthanCentaurai: I highly doubt that. |
| 16:47.53 | Gnarfoz | SmartSVN works wonderfully here, and I doubt it's much of a different experience on OS X, since it's Java anyway. At the very least, it doesn't fall into the "doesn't work category" |
| 16:48.02 | Gnarfoz | (neither do the command line tools, for that matter) |
| 16:48.24 | Gnarfoz | also, Versions and Cornerstone seem to be the "big two", doubt either of them has actual "works/doesn't work" problems |
| 16:49.21 | MysticalOS2 | i use cornterstone |
| 16:49.25 | MysticalOS2 | cornerstone* |
| 16:49.29 | MysticalOS2 | my fav |
| 16:49.58 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r9430 Mogushan/TheStoneGuard.lua: |
| 16:49.58 | Repo | TheStoneGuard: redo the jasper chains func and remove the /say warning. |
| 16:50.02 | Gnarfoz | so, Pizza, Pasta, or something else entirely? |
| 16:50.06 | Fisker | will you assist me Stanzilla ? |
| 16:50.51 | EthanCentaurai | I really liked Versions but I can't afford the 60 bucks to carry on using it |
| 16:52.21 | EthanCentaurai | SmartSVN requires binaries, how do I install those? |
| 16:52.39 | Gnarfoz | "requires binaries" o_O what's that supposed to mean |
| 16:52.53 | Gnarfoz | it requires Java, that's all I know |
| 16:52.53 | EthanCentaurai | it wants the Subversion binaries |
| 16:53.29 | EthanCentaurai | doesn't look like Subversion is "built in" like it is in Versions |
| 16:53.35 | Gnarfoz | uh, it does on OS X? that's news to me |
| 16:53.48 | Gnarfoz | or rather |
| 16:53.51 | Gnarfoz | that's not how it is on windows |
| 16:54.22 | Gnarfoz | in any case, you'd get them from http://subversion.apache.org/packages.html of course |
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| 16:55.10 | Gnarfoz | heh, actually, WANdisco offer svn binaries, too |
| 16:55.30 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wandisco.com/subversion/download#osx "vanilla subversion", I guess |
| 16:57.08 | Gnarfoz | (although I'm surprised, they're usually pretty clear about their requirements, and the OS X version doesn't mention you needing to have subversion installed) |
| 16:57.49 | EthanCentaurai | they're all 1.6 |
| 16:58.01 | EthanCentaurai | or source code |
| 16:58.22 | EthanCentaurai | or require yet another program >.< |
| 16:58.26 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 16:58.29 | Gnarfoz | you can't be this helpless |
| 16:58.35 | EthanCentaurai | I am |
| 16:58.37 | Gnarfoz | or... the OS X situation for subversion can't be this bad |
| 16:58.40 | Gnarfoz | not sure which it is |
| 16:58.49 | EthanCentaurai | I'm retarded |
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| 16:58.57 | Gnarfoz | the wandisco svn download offers both 1.6 and 1.7 |
| 16:59.08 | Gnarfoz | not that you'd need 1.7, why is 1.6 bad |
| 16:59.31 | EthanCentaurai | doesn't WoWace only use 1.7 now |
| 16:59.37 | Gnarfoz | that's their working copy |
| 16:59.43 | Gnarfoz | you should be able to check out a 1.6 working copy from a repo, no matter what |
| 16:59.48 | Gnarfoz | but maybe I'm mistaken on that part |
| 16:59.57 | Gnarfoz | irrelevant, really, since there's 1.7 downloads anyway! :D |
| 17:00.08 | EthanCentaurai | ugh, give me git anyday |
| 17:00.14 | Repo | big-wigs: 03wetxius * r9431 / (2 files in 2 directories): ruRu update. |
| 17:00.16 | Gnarfoz | well, that's another matter entirely :> |
| 17:00.19 | Gnarfoz | (and I agree) |
| 17:01.04 | Gnarfoz | the other option would be to wait and have someone fix the "I switched repo types, please someone kill me now" mess |
| 17:01.30 | EthanCentaurai | aye |
| 17:01.40 | EthanCentaurai | I fucked up converting Tradeskill Info to git |
| 17:02.09 | EthanCentaurai | so now the packager creats 50-odd out of date -nolib zips every time I push something |
| 17:02.23 | EthanCentaurai | even though there are no git tags |
| 17:03.27 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 17:03.46 | Gnarfoz | something similar happens when you use the "fork" functionality on a project |
| 17:07.38 | Fisker | i once forked a guy |
| 17:08.08 | EthanCentaurai | fork off Fisker |
| 17:08.17 | Fisker | fork you EthanCentaurai |
| 17:09.34 | Fisker | wanna fork EthanCentaurai ? |
| 17:09.47 | EthanCentaurai | no thanks |
| 17:10.41 | xjug | forking short-lived conversation. |
| 17:11.09 | Fisker | i'm pretty happy about how it segwayed into fork = fuck when that wasn't even really the original intent of "i once forked a guy" |
| 17:11.17 | Fisker | so now it looks like i wrote i fucked a guy :O |
| 17:11.19 | Fisker | awesome |
| 17:13.30 | Repo | big-wigs: 03wetxius * r9432 HeartOfFear/Locales/ruRU.lua: Add engage locale for Shek'zeer. |
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| 17:28.51 | Repo | Proximity: force sound to play every second for ReverseTarget despite settings. |
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| 18:16.54 | Repo | Add target scanning to amber scalpel beam (this one has an amusing work around to boss appearing to target nothing, he's actually targeting an invisible mob that's targeting player. calling boss1targettarget reveals this) |
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| 20:34.52 | sb | Xuerian: bonus roll has soem strange behavior, not sure what it is, window doesnt disappear after rolling, but no lua error |
| 20:35.04 | sb | also some parts were hidden but the frame/background was still visible |
| 20:37.09 | znf | I'm still waiting for monitor! |
| 20:37.39 | sb | there is no monitor! |
| 20:37.43 | sb | why do you need monitor? |
| 20:38.36 | znf | because I like monitor |
| 20:39.02 | znf | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:39.04 | znf | HAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 20:39.07 | znf | well, NO SHIT SHERLOCK? |
| 20:39.58 | Repo | garajalannounce: 03oscarucb * r35 core.lua: suppress spurious warnings while disabled |
| 20:42.08 | Gnarfoz | I'm always amazed how they can miss obvious stuff like that |
| 20:43.55 | znf | Gnarfoz, someone actually quoted for the feedback thread from the betas :D |
| 20:44.03 | znf | lots of people reported that cleave thingie |
| 20:44.13 | Gnarfoz | haha |
| 20:44.14 | Gnarfoz | nice |
| 20:44.28 | znf | What would they have thought? That the community would not stack cleaving classes for that fight in particular? |
| 20:44.34 | znf | They would "play nice"? |
| 20:51.15 | Xuerian | sb: What is the setting of "Skin bonus roll frame"? |
| 20:58.23 | sb | Xuerian: uhm "true"? :D |
| 21:00.01 | Xuerian | sb: Then if you think the appearance is broken (or have a suggestion on how to improve it) send me a screenshot. As far as it not going away, I'll see what's up |
| 21:01.09 | sb | appeaarance (skinned) is fine :) |
| 21:01.41 | Xuerian | Try /run BONUS_ROLL_REQUIRED_CURRENCY=JUSTICE_CURRENCY BonusRollFrame_StartBonusRoll(6603,"test",30) to show//run BonusRollFrame_CloseBonusRoll() to hide |
| 21:01.44 | sb | https://www.dropbox.com/s/ka6zvbw93yqdb2b/WoWScrnShot_111012_141353.jpg looks good |
| 21:02.05 | sb | well, that was 5 hours ago (doing sha) :D |
| 21:02.08 | sb | dont have it anymore |
| 21:02.10 | sb | will try the next time |
| 21:03.02 | Xuerian | Heh. Alright. But it never went away, you said? |
| 21:04.17 | sb | in LFR it went away - but on sha it didnt |
| 21:05.01 | sb | oh, the difference is - i used a coin on sha |
| 21:05.07 | sb | but didnt in LFR |
| 21:08.01 | Xuerian | Weird. Alright. |
| 21:11.23 | Xuerian | sb: I didn't think about it, but do you mean other elements of the bonus frame that aren't visible there? I've not seen or used it, so I didn't know what all needed to be skinned |
| 21:11.37 | Xuerian | Reading the FrameXML it seems like there's a "spinner" or something. |
| 21:14.17 | durcyn | yeah, it's the dice animation |
| 21:19.24 | sb | i will record the rolling tomorrow (movie) :D |
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| 21:24.41 | Repo | ticket 9: be a little more conservative with frail and voodoo changes to prevent a rare bad assignment caused by latency race |
| 21:25.35 | Repo | garajalannounce: 03oscarucb 041.6 * r37 : Tagging as 1.6 |
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| 22:01.29 | Fisker | so znf |
| 22:01.34 | Fisker | did you see anything to galleon today? |
| 22:01.37 | znf | no |
| 22:01.50 | znf | ~wowalert |
| 22:01.50 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 22:02.59 | Gnarfoz | fucking galleon |
| 22:03.00 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 22:03.43 | znf | Fuckin' wowstead |
| 22:03.49 | znf | for having only 1 custom module widget |
| 22:03.49 | znf | >_< |
| 22:03.55 | Gnarfoz | lulzstead |
| 22:04.10 | znf | my custom widget is getting so freakin' long |
| 22:05.11 | znf | heh |
| 22:05.18 | znf | Ookindadook was not taken on my realm |
| 22:07.35 | Gnarfoz | lucky you |
| 22:10.34 | Fisker | hey znf |
| 22:10.37 | Fisker | not so hey Gnarfoz |
| 22:12.41 | Fisker | :( |
| 22:12.46 | Fisker | why don't you hey me? |
| 22:13.13 | sb | why so Ookindadook today? |
| 22:13.45 | Fisker | are you calling me a motherfucker? |
| 22:15.54 | znf | HEY FISKER |
| 22:15.56 | znf | WHAT IS UP MY FRIEND? |
| 22:16.01 | Fisker | not you znf |
| 22:16.08 | Fisker | you are a jersk |
| 22:16.16 | Fisker | misleading me and stuff :'( |
| 22:16.49 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/Cls1g.png |
| 22:16.55 | znf | this is how you deal with guild invites :D |
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| 22:31.36 | Xuerian | znf: I like that idea |
| 22:32.31 | sb | shhh, Xuerian. dont talk to znf. he will go mad about monitor again! |
| 22:32.40 | znf | Xuerian, yes, monitor |
| 22:32.42 | Xuerian | sb: Well he can go ook himself in the dook |
| 22:32.42 | znf | where is it |
| 22:32.48 | Xuerian | see: ook yourself in the dook |
| 22:33.48 | sb | oh, this looks good |
| 22:33.57 | sb | can i has monitor now? |
| 22:34.05 | sb | meh - wonder if there is a event for bonus loot stuff |
| 22:34.30 | Xuerian | BONUS_ROLL_STARTED, BONUS_ROLL_FAILED,BONUS_ROLL_RESULT |
| 22:35.07 | sb | for other players... :D |
| 22:35.23 | sb | like "xyz got loot/gold" |
| 22:35.35 | Xuerian | No idea. |
| 22:35.49 | Xuerian | ./eventtrace :p |
| 22:39.02 | Fisker | Xuerian |
| 22:40.30 | Xuerian | Fisker |
| 22:40.30 | Repo | xloot: 03Xuerian 07master * z3c-alpha Modules/Group/Group.lua: [+1 commit] Change how BonusRollFrame closing is handled |
| 22:40.32 | Repo | xloot: 03Xuerian 04z3c-alpha * 75b643a /: [new tag] Possible bonus roll frame fixes |
| 22:42.14 | Fisker | roll frames Xuerian ? |
| 22:42.17 | Fisker | for realsies? |
| 22:42.32 | Xuerian | What? |
| 22:43.24 | Fisker | i always wanted roll frames |
| 22:43.39 | Fisker | how do i get this shit? |
| 22:44.31 | Xuerian | arches a brow. |
| 22:45.40 | Fisker | hints: |
| 22:45.50 | Fisker | xloot1.0 doesn't come with roll frames |
| 22:45.56 | Fisker | your commit suggests xloot does |
| 22:46.14 | Fisker | jonndar is dead znf :( |
| 22:46.31 | Xuerian | No, that's always been in group, now it's being rolled into XLoot and the others replaced, same thing I've been typing for the last week, etc |
| 22:46.33 | znf | jonnwho? |
| 22:46.35 | Fisker | and nalash |
| 22:46.37 | Fisker | jonn-dar |
| 22:46.53 | Fisker | i've not been seeing what you've been typing for the last week |
| 22:46.54 | Fisker | ,etc. |
| 22:51.35 | Gnarfoz | sb: 10 days |
| 23:15.16 | Gnarfoz | sb: new Kamelot album any good? |
| 23:17.34 | Fisker | yay Stanzilla |
| 23:17.40 | Fisker | http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/11/10/google-clarifies-nexus-4-10-availability-orders-and-shipments-start-november-13th-no-pre-orders/ |
| 23:18.11 | sb | Gnarfoz: how do you know...? :D |
| 23:18.15 | sb | but yup, i like it |
| 23:18.18 | Gnarfoz | sb: last.fm :> |
| 23:18.22 | sb | i see :D |
| 23:18.34 | Gnarfoz | just signed up for SA |
| 23:19.37 | sb | satellite, WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU |
| 23:19.43 | Gnarfoz | haha |
| 23:20.07 | Gnarfoz | I left it on repeat-1 while I wasn't home or something |
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| 23:20.28 | Gnarfoz | also, check charts/last month, that's a pretty nasty Ohrwurm |
| 23:22.39 | Xuerian | New album is out? D: |
| 23:23.15 | Gnarfoz | 2012-10-26 |
| 23:23.18 | Gnarfoz | says last.fm |
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| 23:29.37 | sb | http://www.last.fm/music/Kamelot/Silverthorn |
| 23:29.40 | sb | oh, damn |
| 23:29.47 | sb | missed concert last week :D |
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