IRC log for #wowace on 20121107

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00:01.33sbChosi: i want to kill you now
00:01.51sb"Ehrfurchtgebietende" SERIOUSLY??? stop using DE :(
00:02.18Gnarfozsb: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/blackmoore/Arthine/simple there I fixed it
00:02.20Chosii used google
00:02.26Chosiand used the first links
00:02.33Chosii'm not using german :S
00:02.43Gnarfozyou googled your own character's armory? :D
00:03.16Chosii googled armory
00:03.20Chosiclicked the link
00:03.23Chosifilled in my char name
00:03.24Chosi:p
00:03.34Gnarfozohje ^^
00:03.57GnarfozI just have to type "H" (first letter of my character's name) and armory is the first link in my URL bar ^^
00:07.32Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude * r9406 BigWigs.toc: bump version
00:13.38sbMORE PUMUCKL
00:14.30sboh
00:14.38sbGnarfoz: SA in 2 weeks
00:15.01Gnarfozyeah I realized that this morning when I stumbled upon the ticket
00:27.17sbGnarfoz: doesnt work for me
00:27.26sbif i type "s" the first match is "schnitzelS" :/
00:27.26Gnarfozwhat does?
00:27.30Gnarfozahaha
00:27.45Gnarfozctrl-del!
00:27.58sbnever!
00:38.40*** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> 5.0.4 ToC#: 50001 | http://paste.wowace.com | http://lua.org | Blizzard Hacked: http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/securityupdate.html | This channel is logged, via purl
00:38.55quiescenspats purl
00:39.06Gnarfozdid someone complain again
00:39.07Gnarfoz;D
00:39.15durcynman lfr garalon is comedy gold
00:39.25Chosihow does it work?
00:39.30Gnarfozwe can't even get normal garalon done so far
00:39.36durcyncrush still goes off when people walk under him
00:39.47Gnarfoznot even exactly sure what we're fucking up besides "everything"
00:40.01quiescensmaybe that's the problem
00:40.15Chosiwhen will this shit open for us Gnarfoz?
00:40.28Gnarfozlfr? less than 12 hours
00:40.33Chosiaight
00:42.47sbdurcyn: nice :D so wipefest?
00:43.13sbGnarfoz: goto sleep
00:43.32Gnarfozprobably not before realms are down, once again
00:44.33Gnarfozat least the server crash earlier finally let me see Garalon for the first time
00:44.44sbgalleon
00:44.46durcynsb: quitfest
00:44.47Gnarfozyes
00:44.51GnarfozGaralon lol
00:45.02Gnarfozand someone even managed to share the tag, yay? 2x gold.
00:45.56Gnarfozand depending on if he respawns when the realms come out of maintenance or not, we might even know when the next spawn will be :o
00:46.16sb20-120h?
00:46.17Gnarfozhttp://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/380/373/03a.jpg
00:46.21durcyngalleon spawned twice on mine yesterday, once on the timer and once on a server crash, this game is cool
00:46.24durcynit's supposed to be 48
00:47.50Repobasic-chat-mods: 03funkydude * r381 playernames.lua: playernames: fix group indicators
00:48.43Gnarfozalso, up to 12/20 rare items now
00:54.24pompyi missed galleon by 15 minutes :(
00:59.20znf~wowalert
00:59.20purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert]
01:00.11znfno servers restart?!?!?!?
01:00.42znfI wantz galleon wtf
01:03.06Repobasic-chat-mods: 03funkydude * r382 BasicChatMods.toc: bump version
01:08.23Funkeh`prencher / Torhal / Torhal|work I just tagged 2 repos and nothing happened...
01:09.25TorhalFunkeh`: Looks like it's packaging to me
01:09.31Torhal@project basic-chat-mods
01:09.32RepoTorhal: [WoW] BasicChatMods (Updated Nov 07, 2012 at 01:03 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/basic-chat-mods/
01:09.55TorhalPackaged 7 minutes ago, around the time you tagged.
01:10.15Funkeh`http://www.wowace.com/addons/basic-chat-mods/files/
01:10.20Funkeh`http://www.wowace.com/addons/big-wigs/files/
01:10.23Funkeh`no files
01:10.26Funkeh`no repo message
01:10.38Funkeh`no repo errors
01:10.45Funkeh`or package log for that matter
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01:13.21Funkeh`Torhal, seems the only thing indicating it's been tagged is the project activity log
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01:29.12znf!@#@!#!@)(#!_@#( !_@#(!@_#(! warriors
01:30.15mckenziemcdrops a nuclear quiescens on znf.
01:31.11TorhalFunkeh`: How did you tag? Website?
01:31.32Funkeh`yes
01:31.43Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude 04r9407-release * r9407 : Tagging as r9407-release
01:31.48Repobasic-chat-mods: 03funkydude 04v6.8 * r383 : Tagging as v6.8
01:31.49TorhalYah, I just saw files, didn't look at state (was watching Walking Dead)
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01:32.09TorhalWTH, works now.
01:32.22Funkeh`thanks if that was you
01:32.37TorhalYou didn't just tag again?
01:32.39TorhalWasn't me.
01:32.51quiescensa wizard did it
01:32.51Funkeh`no I didnt
01:32.55TorhalHrm,
01:33.35TorhalWell, prencher did change something to stop idiots from converting their projects to a repo project when they'd been uploading zips before and then tagging like it was going to do magical shit
01:33.48TorhalMaybe it's on a timer, unsure
01:34.07Torhal(people doing that would break the packager)
01:35.00mckenziemcmaybe you should fix the root problem
01:35.09mckenziemckills Torhal's users.
01:35.15prencherTorhal: I haven't done anything like that
01:35.24Torhalprencher: I thought you had? Or were?
01:35.26TorhalHrm.
01:35.26prencherI stopped the packager from running on games its not supposed to
01:35.32TorhalThat's pretty fucked up.
01:35.51Torhalprencher: Funkeh` tagged over 30 minutes ago, and nothing happened until 4 minutes ago
01:36.06TorhalRepo suddenly spouted both tags into the channel and the packager started packaging the tags
01:36.41prencheryeah that was because of something else
01:36.43prencherdon't worry about it
01:36.51prencherqueue backlog from a maintenance task
01:36.58TorhalAah
01:37.29Funkeh`well now I can go collapse in bed
01:37.31Funkeh`fucking cold
01:38.07TorhalG'night.
01:48.57quiescensmoo
01:49.29mckenziemcfreezes quiescens mid-moo
01:49.36mckenziemcreverses
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02:03.14znfwhere's my HoF LFR?
02:09.39Chosiour server just "reset"
02:09.46Chosiso i guess it should be available now
02:10.22znfreset as in dailies reset?
02:11.19znfor restart?
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02:14.06Repolibperiodictable-3-1: 03muffinmanken * r409 / (2 files in 2 directories): Added a bunch of MoP potions
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02:35.50XuerianSo who of you are on Blackrock/US?
02:36.50Dark_Elfhmm xlootmonitor is broke again
02:37.22XuerianDark_Elf: It usually is. Are you using alpha versions?
02:37.39Dark_Elfit keep saying cant find deformat 2
02:37.49XuerianThis is important, are you using alpha versions? :P
02:38.03Dark_Elfim using the last update
02:38.41Dark_Elfbut it didnt start doing this error prior to updating the xloot
02:38.48Xuerian... because you're using the alpha
02:38.51XuerianStop using the alpha :)
02:39.17Dark_Elfim confused
02:39.20XuerianOr keep using it and tell me what /it/ breaks, but monitor will not work with it at all until I port it, which is soon
02:39.43Dark_Elfi will just wait
02:40.01Dark_Elfanyways deformat is old library anyways
02:40.02quiescens"soon"
02:40.03XuerianDark_Elf: XLoot z1+ is, essentially, XLoot 1.0. I will be rolling Group, Monitor, and Master into one core+module package.
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02:40.13Xuerianquiescens: It's actually moved from valve time to blizzard soon
02:40.55quiescenssoon™
02:41.00Dark_Elfok so in other words when i updated xloot it overwrot the dummy?
02:41.15quiescensgasp
02:41.27XuerianDark_Elf: Yes. Either use Beta/release XLoot+Monitor, or use "Old Plugin Support" + 1.0 + whatever
02:41.33XuerianBut alpha is going to break stuff
02:41.52Dark_Elfok thanks
02:43.26Dark_Elfit was working otherwise lol
02:44.41znfXuerian, man, your versioning scheme sucks
02:45.05znftoo many letters, too many numbers
02:45.08Xuerianznf: I'm a special snowflake
02:45.29XuerianReally, I just picked a random letter because I'm a rebel and R is too mainstream
02:45.45Xuerianthen ##.##.## means nothing to me, so I'm like "letters mean small changes"
02:46.38Dark_Elfah crap i just noticeds something
02:46.50znfXuerian, so basically, something that only you can understand
02:47.14znfhey, like I said, the decision to call it Xloot-1.0 was stupid in the first place :P
02:47.17Gnarfozwhich is the only real requirement to a versioning scheme
02:47.17Xuerianznf: Hey
02:47.17znfso much confusion
02:47.23XuerianAt least the whole addon isn't shitty name now
02:47.24XuerianJust versions :D
02:47.25Dark_Elfi have the old loot monitor and the new xloot_monitor in there lol
02:47.38XuerianDark_Elf: Hah. Yeah. Remove the alpha :p
02:47.39Gnarfozwho monitors the monitor?
02:48.26znfis following the US elections
02:48.31znfwhy the hell do I even care?
02:48.40XuerianBecause abject horror isn't picky
02:48.45Dark_Elfi may test it without the old plugin first and see if i still get error
02:49.14XuerianDark_Elf: New monitor does one thing, it adds a second "You receive" message to chat for debugging :P
02:49.15znfDark_Elf, I don't think you understand :P
02:49.29XuerianSeriously. Don't use the alpha if you want to use monitor.
02:50.10Dark_Elfright
02:50.21znfDark_Elf, basically, he made a mess with the project names :P
02:50.27Dark_Elfno
02:50.41Dark_Elfits not mess i made a mess with my addons folder
02:51.09Dark_Elfi got xloot and 1.0 both in there
02:51.09Xuerianznf: That's actually not the issue right now, the issue with monitor is it still uses the devil's framework
02:51.16XuerianWell.
02:51.22XuerianI mean, the names aren't helping, buuut
02:51.29znfI know :P
02:52.13Dark_Elfanyways its good that is getting the ace2 out
02:53.48Repobattlegroundtargets: 03kunda * r166 BattlegroundTargets.lua: update
02:54.19Dridztis this a good time to use LibDropdown for masterloot menus instead of the stock blizzard one? I still have a 'sort of working' implementation of that lying around
02:55.05Dridztalthough I didn't see any issues with UIDropDown sofar with XLootMaster
02:55.14Dark_Elfalso may want to drop the embeds and just put the libs in toc dont need an embeds
02:55.17Dridzttaint and such I mean
02:57.37znfDridzt, haven't seen any taint so far with that
02:58.17Dridztyes me neither and I masterloot often, but we're running 10mans so I haven't tested bigger menus
02:59.47znfI'm doing 25s
03:04.57pompy[08:01:06 PM]Korgol Crushskull yells: The Darkmoon Deathmatch is over!  Pompalicious is the victor!
03:08.10znflol
03:08.15znfforgot about Darkmoon
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03:18.59XuerianDridzt: Well, up to you. The new structure is perfectly happy with module-specific embeds, if you like, I can whip up and push the required stub code for master (most of it is there already, really) and throw some comments in so you can see what's changed
03:19.38Dridztno need to do extra work for me, I'll figure it out :)
03:19.54DridztThere's 1 thing that I never got around to implementing in xlootmaster
03:20.22XuerianDark_Elf: TOC files work, but the way you have to develop core-module addons plays into the hand of XMLs, because for us, it's actually one folder and all the modules are actually in the Modules folder instead of the root Addons folder. So we just load the "load.xml" for each module, and it loads itself
03:20.25Dridztit needed a way to refresh the recipients menu with the rolls from the ML requested grouprolls after they're finished
03:20.53Dridztif that made any sense how I said it :P
03:20.58XuerianDridzt: I'm not sure how to go about that now, purely because I haven't really thought about how the group rolls compare to /random, which it used to support
03:21.03Xuerianmade sense :]
03:22.13Dridztin the 'new' xlootmaster there's support for 2 kinds of raid rolls atm
03:23.51Dridztassigning raidunits to 1-raidtotal and requesting a randomroll from server
03:24.34Dridztrequesting a grouproll (the new blizz functionality)
03:24.41XuerianRight.
03:24.51Dridztproblem is in the default LootHistory frame
03:25.16Dridztwhen ML spawns grouproll and raid responds, he gets a list with all the rolls and can right-click assign to winner
03:25.48DridztXLootMaster has no way to do that now, except in the ML's head :)
03:26.03XuerianRequest a roll, wait for the next roll, then store the rollID?
03:27.33DridztI believe LOOT_ROLLS_COMPLETE fires when everyone has responded
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03:28.26XuerianI watch both LOOT_ROLLS_COMPLETE and LOOT_HISTORY_ROLL_COMPLETE, then just rescan the history to find the matching rollID in group
03:28.51XuerianWait, what do I do.. oh well. Probably can take this to PMs to keep the channel clear, too
03:28.53Dridztgetting who rolled what on which item is not much of a problem when ML requests a grouproll spawned
03:29.09Dridztwhat was needed (one idea, might be something better)
03:50.26Repoxloot: 03Xuerian 07master * z1c-alpha-3-g8087849 Modules/ (7 files in 4 directories): [+3 commits]
03:50.27Repo8087849: More verbose comments in options
03:50.27Repo74d62ff: Fix monitor localization
03:50.28Repod1452af: XLoot_Master stub
03:50.35znfDridzt, I'm fine with that
03:50.52znfI mean, the way it works now :P
03:51.39XuerianDon't tell me it's going to package that 0_o
03:53.36XuerianIs there a way to keep the packager from packaging unless there's a new tag?
03:58.19StanzillaXuerian: are you still not done with confusing everyone with your xloot version madness?
03:58.36Stanzillaand yes to that question
03:58.38znfXuerian, set the project to only package on release/beta? >_<
03:58.50Xuerianznf: I want to package on alpha, but not on tagless pushes :p
03:59.02XuerianStanzilla: NEVERRRR HOIST THE VERSIONS HIGH
03:59.25znf...why would you tag alphas? :-|
03:59.38znfwhat purpose do the betas serve?
03:59.46XuerianWell, there always the "Troll Dark_Elf" reason
04:00.24XuerianAlpha> Fresh code for adventurous gits. Beta> Reasonably stable code that might still break things or isn't done. Release> herderrrr addonz r fun.
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04:06.26StanzillaXuerian: then disable package creation for everything but release and tag every alpha you want tested as release :o
04:07.24znfStanzilla, shutdown is bullshit
04:07.27XuerianStanzilla: ARE YOU INSANE
04:07.30XuerianD:
04:07.32StanzillaXuerian: no you are :(
04:07.40Stanzillaznf: I was sleeping until now so Idc
04:08.25znfStanzilla, good, text me when the servers are up? :D
04:08.32Stanzillasure
04:09.10znf+40748881658
04:09.50Xuerian#1 idea EU
04:10.20znfXuerian, at least I would get /some/ calls!
04:10.41Xuerian... I know that feel =|
04:10.46Dark_Elfis not a troll :p
04:11.36znfOooooh.
04:11.42znfOk, now I realize why this was a bad idea
04:11.46znfthis channel is weblogged :(
04:12.16Stanzillarofl
04:12.49Dark_Elfthinks all addons are alpha
04:12.58Xuerianznf: Aaand there we go\
04:13.38znfoh well
04:13.40znfmore calls for me!
04:13.41Dark_Elfin fact i saw one day someone did a release and then 2 hours later did another release, i was thinking wtf
04:13.48Fiskerso anyone know why Blizzard abandoned their own breaking news system for obscure twitter accounts?
04:14.15Stanzillawhat breaking news system
04:14.30znfStanzilla, logon message
04:14.42Stanzillathat is broken?
04:14.45Stanzilla~wowalert
04:14.45purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert]
04:14.51Stanzillaindeed
04:14.52Stanzillabitches
04:15.25XuerianDark_Elf: I do that often enough, it's called "Oh crap, there's a bug"
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04:17.28Stanzillafor me it's "should have tested that ingame. crap."
04:17.44Xuerianthat too
04:18.34Dark_Elfso arent these just betas instead of release?
04:19.57XuerianWhich are you talking about? What Stanzilla and I said, or XLoot z1*?
04:20.11Dark_Elfaddons in general
04:20.23Stanzillathat's up to the author, I guess
04:21.21XuerianPretty much that. Me, for example, I know a lot of people will be set to beta channel, so I don't want to package anything beta until I'm sure it mostly works.
04:23.02znfI don't know anyone who sets to beta
04:23.12znfall my addons are set to alpha
04:23.18znfwith the exception of shadowed-dick
04:23.46Dark_Elfwell i always download alpha
04:23.58Dark_Elfcause i want the latest
04:24.53Dark_Elfthat way i can test em, and unfortunately when i find errors i tend to report them
04:25.06Dark_Elfbut i guess i will stop doing that
04:25.19Stanzillawhy
04:25.23znfI usually bug the people in here if it's one of their addons
04:25.48Dark_Elfwell yeah that why i do it in here, cause goto website and they may not look at it for a month lol
04:25.51TorhalXuerian: You broke my mind.
04:25.59XuerianDark_Elf: I'm glad you want to test it, and you're welcome to, I'm just saying Monitor won't work for you right now
04:25.59TorhalTagging alphas? o.O
04:26.14TorhalEvery push is an alpha unless followed by a tag.
04:26.20XuerianTorhal: I really don't get why that's surprising, but it probably comes from the fact that I didn't know it packaged automatically on push
04:26.21TorhalUnless you turn packaging off :)
04:26.28TorhalHeh.
04:26.42XuerianI prefer the cleaner version number, though
04:26.43TorhalJust the fact that it's been that way for years :)
04:27.39XuerianTorhal: Well, curseforge wasn't around when I was working with the old ones/SVN, and since I started using Git, I tagged everything I wanted packaged, and that apparently happened whenever I pushed
04:28.12TorhalXuerian: Haven't you been dealing with Xloot on CurseForge for over a year?
04:28.35XuerianTorhal: See "Pushes have always coincided with tags"
04:28.42TorhalAh.
04:28.53XuerianThough I understand now :p
04:30.00znfcurseforge is ugly
04:30.02znfwowace is better
04:30.03Stanzillastop talking about it then, killing my half-asleep brain :8
04:30.04znfand prettier
04:30.05znfand better
04:30.06Fiskerhey Stanzilla
04:30.07Fiskerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oQCCmuTn7k
04:30.17Stanzillaalready saw that Fisker
04:30.30Fiskerdoes it say anything interesting?
04:30.35FiskerI don't understand hitler that well
04:30.35Stanzillano
04:31.40Fiskerapparently LG and Samsung has gotten pretty pissed at Google for the N4 pricing :D
04:32.10quiescenso.o
04:32.59Fiskeri just wish Google had done it in all markets
04:33.05XuerianDoesn't really surprise me. Who manufactured the N4?
04:33.07Fiskerbut that's probably where LG put down their feet
04:33.10FiskerLG Xuerian
04:33.29XuerianHuh, I figured they would be pushing their first in-house motorola out.
04:33.44quiescenswhat does samsung have to do with it?
04:33.52Fiskerthey make phones?
04:34.05Fiskereven Apple is probably pissed about this
04:34.55znfGood if they're pissed
04:35.00znfI'm hoping they don't run out of parts by summer
04:35.04znfso I can buy one for cheap
04:35.15quiescensiuno, for lg its maybe okay but for everyone else its like, you can't really complain about the competition's pricing
04:35.33FiskerSamsung is also a partner
04:35.46XuerianSure you can. Does it make sense is another question.
04:36.06znfNobody's stopping them to up the "game" and produce better cheaper phones ^^
04:36.06Fiskerimo they got greedy
04:36.23Fiskerit wasn't hard to find the highest end android phones in the 399->449€ level
04:36.34quiescenscomplaining about someone selling stuff cheaper than you is probably a bad marketing decision
04:36.36Fiskerbut they felt like throwing another 100-200€ on top of that
04:37.40znfI'm glad they made an 8GB version
04:37.53znfheck, most people I know would settle for a 4GB version for even cheaper :P
04:38.37quiescens4 is probably low for a lot of people
04:39.05XuerianDoesn't it have a sd card, or are they pushing drive/music cloud storage?
04:39.23FiskerGoogle hasn't used sd cards for a while now
04:39.24znfquiescens, not every stores music on their phones
04:39.29znfeveryone*
04:39.34FiskerThey basically officially said "Fuck SD cards" with Android 3.0
04:39.46znfThe only 2 MP3s I have on my phone are my ringtone and alarm tone...
04:40.21quiescensi know but there's still emails and apps and photos and such and a lot of people would appreciate the leeway of having the 8
04:40.22FiskerI wish they had put a 32GB at 349€ though
04:40.29Fisker16GB at 329€
04:41.04XuerianFisker: Really? That bothers me =\
04:41.25quiescensto be fair
04:41.30FiskerThey say SD Cards are pretty terrible
04:41.38quiescenssd cards have almost never been particularly well..
04:41.39Fiskerbecause they basically force everyone into formatting FAT
04:41.41quiescenshandled
04:42.05znfyup, FAT is a shitty system
04:42.06Fiskerand they don't like having app developers deal with FAT nor storage being unmounted
04:42.10XuerianThey're pretty terrible, but so is paying out the nose for transfer past your cap, or if you have really low data speeds in your area and trying to cloud everything. =\
04:42.35quiescensits always treated as a secondary storage that is a lot harder to use and/or very limited in what you can use it for
04:44.53XuerianAnyway, that said, 4GB without a sd-card is pretty terrible, that's worse than my D2 I picked up off ebay years ago
04:45.08znfI have 3GB space left on my 8GB sd-card...
04:45.23znfand 1gb is used by the rom (as I have an old phone without much internal storage)
04:45.34quiescenstechnically we were saying that it doesn't havea 4gb
04:45.34quiescenslol
04:45.36znfand ~2gb are just backups of old roms I can't be arsed to delete :P
04:45.49znfso I'm using less than 4gb :D
04:46.16Fiskeryeah i almost never use up more than 8-10GB of storage anyway
04:46.21Fiskerand that was with the S3
04:46.32Fiskertheir fucking roms is like 1GB
04:46.49znfthe biggest file I ever had was an 720p recording (~15 minutes) that was like 1gb
04:47.02znfWhy do you want a N4 if you have an S3?
04:47.13XuerianEeeehh, yeah, realistically it isn't that bad. It only gets bad when I try to stock up on audiobooks or something.
04:47.26znfanyway
04:47.27XuerianOr if you're trying to use it as a camcorder, that too.
04:47.30znfobama seems to have won
04:47.32znfcan go to bed now
04:47.37Xueriano/
04:47.42Fiskerwhy wouldn't obama win?
04:47.46quiescensanyway, i still kind of think using an sdcard as extra storage would be nicer if it just merged with the built in storage
04:48.02znfquiescens, that can't be done
04:48.06znfbecause fat32
04:48.17quiescenssure it can
04:48.38XuerianA little iffy on that one. Hard to determine what happens if it is seamless. But I'm not saying the current/previous situation is good either
04:48.47Fiskera JBOD configuration could be possible but they would have to sacrifice using FAT32 atleast
04:49.03Fiskeror convert to using it entirely
04:49.11Fiskerwhich should never happen
04:49.52quiescensthe thingy about it is probaably just they feel a need to be able to cleanly handle the card being removed unexpectedly
04:50.28Fiskerit's not much of an android problem but rather an app developer one
04:50.35Fiskergoogle just took the decision on behalf of them
04:51.17XuerianI mean, really. Internal storage needs to be adequate, but optional explicitly unreliable SD storage seems like it should be a option.
04:51.26quiescensanother option is having no memory built in and just using a card as the primary storage
04:53.04XuerianNot practical while it's so shitty
04:53.25XuerianReally, keeping media on the card and apps/data on the phone seems to make a lot of sense
04:53.51quiescensanymoo, i would say its mostly a) not wanting to have little slots so they can make the phone look better and/or smaller, and b) allowing them have the distinct price points
04:54.14quiescensthe implementation reasons are fairly easy to deal with
04:54.33Xuerianquiescens: Doesn't need a slot, just have it under the battery lid somewhere
04:54.45XuerianPrice points makes sense though
04:55.46quiescensthere's still the electrical contacts, the place to put it, the controller if needed that take up room
04:56.32quiescensdo they actually have a battery lid
04:57.25XuerianYeah, it does require extra hardware either way you slide it
04:57.35XuerianNot sure about the N4 though.
04:57.40Fiskernot on the n4
04:57.44Fiskerwell there is a battery lid
04:57.48Fiskerbut it's secured by screws
04:57.49Fisker:D
04:58.09XuerianMy Evo runs CM10 more or less fine :[
04:58.14Fisker(But atleast those screws can be removed without spending 50€ on an iphone liberator kit)
04:59.39Fiskerhttp://twitpic.com/b9sddk/full
05:00.16Fisker2 T4 screws and the rest is just standard screws :D
05:00.47XuerianFisker: I'm just confused about why they didn't include a LTE radio
05:00.51Fiskerthey did
05:00.54Fiskerjust no antenna for it
05:01.17Xuerians/a LTE radio/actual LTE capability/
05:01.29FiskerAnd they didn't include LTE because doing so requires carrier certification which again means that Google is kept out of the loop on software
05:01.43XuerianAh.
05:02.45FiskerBut wouldn't it be amazing if LTE just laid dormant and all you had to do was activate it? :P
05:03.07Fiskerwas hoping there had been a microsd slot not removed under that backplate, but wishful thinking :D
05:03.22Fiskerthat's what they did with wp7 i believe
05:03.37Fiskerwas a damn microsd slot in it when you popped it open
05:03.43XuerianI'm looking forward to phones using that improved antenna that came up recently
05:03.54XuerianI'm tired of reception getting worse with more towers going up >:(
05:46.18quiescensclearly the solution is to use a landline
05:50.43WobinTin cans and string
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06:24.51purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert]
06:25.46StanzillaFisker: I might get it for 316 euros but that would be on 10.12
06:25.47Stanzilla:/
06:26.01Fisker:(
06:27.33Stanzillanotsurewhattodo
06:30.24StanzillaFisker: fuck media markt
06:30.30StanzillaI just do google play
06:30.36Fiskerme too
06:30.58Fiskeri do require some form of sleep
06:31.18Fiskeri could watch some tv
06:31.27Fiskerbut you never know with blizzard
06:31.48Stanzillawhy do you want to stay up? galleon?
06:31.58Fiskeryeah
06:40.43XuerianFisker: Blackrock?
06:41.42Fiskerno
06:41.46FiskerEU
06:41.48Fiskerand Tarren Mill
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09:28.32Reposerenity-now: 03calahil * r2 / (85 files in 23 directories): -Fix the broken SVN
09:30.58Repomastershapeshifter (experimental): 03cielazure * r118 MasterShapeShifter (4 files in 2 directories): hide while in vehicles
09:32.46znfoh come on stupid maintenance
09:38.30quiescenso.o
09:39.02mckenziemcquiescens.
09:43.34Reposerenity-now: 03calahil * r3 / (4 files in 1 directory): -Fix for the SVN
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11:51.16Stanzillahttp://vimeo.com/52933870
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12:25.16sb"Leider müssen wir die Wartungsarbeiten um vorraussichtlich 2 Stunden verlängern, um wichtige Tests an den Servern durchzuführen"
12:25.19sbgalleon \o/
12:25.21sbnice
12:25.41Chosiyayers
12:26.09Chosibis wann?
12:26.25sbETA 15:00
12:26.36Chosimeh
12:26.44sbcould also be 14 / 16 / 17 uhr :D
12:27.50nevcairielor maybe never!
12:36.59Repolibstatlogic-1-2: 03JackTripper * r188 LibStatLogic-1.2/LibStatLogic-1.2.lua:
12:37.00Repo- changed Monk's APPerAgi from 0 to 2. Nobody knows if two is right, but it might be more correct than zero
12:52.59Stanzillaso today I had to work on a script that reads variables from a db, injects it into html and generates a pdf from it
12:53.15quiescensgrats
12:53.19Stanzillasad part is, the guy never told us how the db is structured and what the names of everything is
12:53.47Stanzillaso now we have a cool strict that can inject "dickbat" into a lot of fields in a pdf
12:53.49Stanzilla\o/
12:56.52Fiskersounds like mad
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13:28.36Stanzillawrites sms to znf
13:30.50nevcairielwait you want all the information required to do your job before you start? like that ever happens :P
13:31.14Stanzillanevcairiel: took him like 5 hours to send a sample sql query code they used
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13:31.17Stanzillathat said..nothing
13:31.36nevcairielif you have access to the db, you can just go snoop around in it!
13:32.50Stanzillawe don't
13:34.34sbewww
13:34.37sbStanzilla is doing some work?
13:34.55sbREAL work?
13:36.34prencherDon't be ridiculous
13:37.13Stanzilla:(
13:37.40StanzillaI do that from time to time you know
13:38.08sb<3 IT, putting all new email accounts in PDFs+XLS file on a network share anyone can access
13:38.13sb*head => desk*
13:39.16sbsee, maintenance finished
13:39.52sb*checks for galleon*
13:40.31StanzillaI got gold
13:40.34Stanzillavery happy about that
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13:45.40Stanzillaznf: wake up already
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13:47.04sbno galleon here
13:47.32nevcairieldidnt they change it so that he has a high chance to spawn sometime after a restart, but doesnt spawn instantly anymore?
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13:47.55Stanzillatheir system is a buggy piece of shit
13:49.56quiescenso.o
13:59.31Fiskerbam dat berserk on blade lord
14:00.08Fiskerit's always been instant up after logging in here nevcairiel
14:04.07sbFor a limited time, the 840 Pro SSDs will also include a code for a downloadable full version of the highly anticipated video game "Assassin's Creed® III,"
14:04.10sbnice :D
14:04.16Stanzillayeah
14:04.22StanzillaI bet that will be us only or so
14:06.47Fiskertoo bad sb
14:06.52Fiskeri wish Stanzilla
14:07.03Stanzillawhy Fisker
14:07.12sbWHATS BAD Fisker?
14:07.18Fiskerbecause noone wants ass creed 3
14:07.28Fiskerwell maybe if it was ass creed 3
14:07.33Fiskerbut not assassins creed 3
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14:25.06Chosihttp://wow.curseforge.com/addons/notes-uneed/tickets/70-in-game-calendar/
14:25.07Chosiha!
14:25.11Chosii'm not alone :>
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14:29.01quiescensgo to sleep
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14:59.25Fiskeryay Stanzilla
14:59.27Fiskeri got dps leg plates
14:59.30Fiskerwhich i got last week
15:00.55sby so dpsy?
15:02.18Repobasic-chat-mods: 03funkydude * r385 playernames.lua: playernames: missed an extra check
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15:23.05sboh, still no HoF heroic kill!?
15:24.15Funkeh`is someone streaming or?
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15:40.05Caleb|dancing is serious business sb
15:44.03sbCaleb|: no offense, just wondering :o
15:47.06Caleb|didn't get offended, just letting you know that dancing is serious business
15:49.15sbalso, what dancing?
15:49.59Caleb|Attenuation
15:50.12sbugh, i see
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16:00.09StanzillaCaleb|: is everyone really wiping to that?
16:01.18Caleb|it is just basically you can't really loose people at srtart, cuz you'll loose people last phase
16:01.35Caleb|but you know how it is, there always some new guys dieing to the mechanic
16:01.48Stanzillalooking forward to it
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17:58.17znfStanzilla, Fisker: thanks
17:58.22znfbut I was SO dead asleep
17:58.28znfdidn't hear shit :-/
17:59.14Fiskerthey were dicks znf
17:59.21znfUh?
17:59.28znfah, Blizzard? biggest
18:00.25Fiskerwrote around 13:00 that servers were coming up
18:00.28Fiskerthen lol nope wait 2 hours
18:01.02pompyyeah it was extended for us too
18:01.16znfpompy, was it extended TWICE?
18:01.28pompyunsure of that, i was at work!!
18:01.49pompyall i know is galleon spawned 15 mins before i got off of work.. /rage :P
18:01.50pompy:(
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18:06.38Fiskerso Stanzilla
18:06.46Fiskernow anandtech says those benchmarks were done in a freezer
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18:17.45durcyner, svnserve fuckin' up again?
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18:32.31RepoNew announcement: Subversion Rollbacks for a Subset of Repositories - Access Temporarily Disabled - http://www.wowace.com/announcements/subversion-rollbacks-for-a-subset-of-repositories-access/
18:35.23Megalonrolls Torhal back to work
18:36.59Gnarfozvhaarr: FascistGnome is missing (at least one) translation entry
18:38.47Torhal|workburns Megalon with chemicals.
19:00.59Fiskeri fear for my very life znf
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19:36.43durcynhow can you kill that which has no life?
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19:51.22SlaymanHow can you have so little overview as a tank, stone guard is really not that hard
19:53.37Lobsterit's harder to manage as a tank than all of the bosses the tiers before
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21:03.29Kemayoznf: You may have to be more specific about "fix handynotes_lorewalkers".
21:07.34Gnarfozvhaarr: also, fascistgnome opens whisper/chat windows to everyone who's missing something
21:08.32SlaymanI shouldn't have switched from tanking to rogue, I believe I could do it. I hate being halted by sth I cannot do anything about
21:10.36znf@project handynotes_lorewalkers
21:10.36Repoznf: [WoW] HandyNotes_Lorewalkers (Updated Oct 08, 2012 at 17:05 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/handynotes_lorewalkers/
21:10.59znfKemayo, read curse.com comments :)
21:11.47Gnarfozwithout anything in them
21:12.31XuerianKemayo, why is it so hard to drag betterquest trackers around :(
21:28.38znfwe go 10m? we get 7 raid drops on trash
21:28.42znfwe go 25m? no trash drops
21:29.57Gnarfozsux to be you
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22:23.10Torhal|workXuerian: I know, it's insane.
22:26.53znfsb, first boss in hof talents?
22:27.31Stanzilladivine star or cascade, you are in melee range all the time
22:31.52znfmeh
22:31.56znfToF / FDCL ?
22:32.56znfevery time i see "Supplicant" I'm thinking of wpa_supplicant
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22:52.21highlyIs Grum there?
22:53.45Stanzillapoints at Grum
22:54.12highlyxD
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22:54.52highlybut afk :/
23:01.53Reposyllabus: 03LaoTseu 07master * v1.0-16-g5ae22aa Syllabus.lua: [+1 commit] Ticket #39 - Trying to fix the deformat code for the ERR_SKILL_UP_SI string so it works with the German client.
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23:18.46sbznf: di+fdcl+halo :p
23:19.00sband dno Stanzilla, easy to stay at ~20y
23:19.06znfmeh
23:19.29StanzillaI've never been there sb
23:19.29Stanzilla:D
23:20.03sbznf: movement, so di+fdcl is great :D
23:20.03sbsame for second boss
23:20.10znfmeh
23:20.14znfwe didn't kill it anyway
23:20.22sbgaralon is tof
23:24.10sbznf: you didnt kill the first boss? :o
23:24.23znfI didn't
23:24.35znfwe had ~30 minutes left for HoF
23:24.35znfso eh
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23:25.39sbmindfactory: BETTER GIEV SSD TOMORROW
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23:39.18znfI don't have the patience required to watch videos
23:39.57znfunless they suddenly start making "demos" in the game like, for example, counter-strike has, to load something in the game client and "play it back" with MY UI and see the stuff I want... videos are shit
23:40.18sbi see :D
23:40.22sbso we still hate Stanzilla?
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