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00:01.33 | sb | Chosi: i want to kill you now |
00:01.51 | sb | "Ehrfurchtgebietende" SERIOUSLY??? stop using DE :( |
00:02.18 | Gnarfoz | sb: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/blackmoore/Arthine/simple there I fixed it |
00:02.20 | Chosi | i used google |
00:02.26 | Chosi | and used the first links |
00:02.33 | Chosi | i'm not using german :S |
00:02.43 | Gnarfoz | you googled your own character's armory? :D |
00:03.16 | Chosi | i googled armory |
00:03.20 | Chosi | clicked the link |
00:03.23 | Chosi | filled in my char name |
00:03.24 | Chosi | :p |
00:03.34 | Gnarfoz | ohje ^^ |
00:03.57 | Gnarfoz | I just have to type "H" (first letter of my character's name) and armory is the first link in my URL bar ^^ |
00:07.32 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r9406 BigWigs.toc: bump version |
00:13.38 | sb | MORE PUMUCKL |
00:14.30 | sb | oh |
00:14.38 | sb | Gnarfoz: SA in 2 weeks |
00:15.01 | Gnarfoz | yeah I realized that this morning when I stumbled upon the ticket |
00:27.17 | sb | Gnarfoz: doesnt work for me |
00:27.26 | sb | if i type "s" the first match is "schnitzelS" :/ |
00:27.26 | Gnarfoz | what does? |
00:27.30 | Gnarfoz | ahaha |
00:27.45 | Gnarfoz | ctrl-del! |
00:27.58 | sb | never! |
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00:38.55 | quiescens | pats purl |
00:39.06 | Gnarfoz | did someone complain again |
00:39.07 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
00:39.15 | durcyn | man lfr garalon is comedy gold |
00:39.25 | Chosi | how does it work? |
00:39.30 | Gnarfoz | we can't even get normal garalon done so far |
00:39.36 | durcyn | crush still goes off when people walk under him |
00:39.47 | Gnarfoz | not even exactly sure what we're fucking up besides "everything" |
00:40.01 | quiescens | maybe that's the problem |
00:40.15 | Chosi | when will this shit open for us Gnarfoz? |
00:40.28 | Gnarfoz | lfr? less than 12 hours |
00:40.33 | Chosi | aight |
00:42.47 | sb | durcyn: nice :D so wipefest? |
00:43.13 | sb | Gnarfoz: goto sleep |
00:43.32 | Gnarfoz | probably not before realms are down, once again |
00:44.33 | Gnarfoz | at least the server crash earlier finally let me see Garalon for the first time |
00:44.44 | sb | galleon |
00:44.46 | durcyn | sb: quitfest |
00:44.47 | Gnarfoz | yes |
00:44.51 | Gnarfoz | Garalon lol |
00:45.02 | Gnarfoz | and someone even managed to share the tag, yay? 2x gold. |
00:45.56 | Gnarfoz | and depending on if he respawns when the realms come out of maintenance or not, we might even know when the next spawn will be :o |
00:46.16 | sb | 20-120h? |
00:46.17 | Gnarfoz | http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/380/373/03a.jpg |
00:46.21 | durcyn | galleon spawned twice on mine yesterday, once on the timer and once on a server crash, this game is cool |
00:46.24 | durcyn | it's supposed to be 48 |
00:47.50 | Repo | basic-chat-mods: 03funkydude * r381 playernames.lua: playernames: fix group indicators |
00:48.43 | Gnarfoz | also, up to 12/20 rare items now |
00:54.24 | pompy | i missed galleon by 15 minutes :( |
00:59.20 | znf | ~wowalert |
00:59.20 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
01:00.11 | znf | no servers restart?!?!?!? |
01:00.42 | znf | I wantz galleon wtf |
01:03.06 | Repo | basic-chat-mods: 03funkydude * r382 BasicChatMods.toc: bump version |
01:08.23 | Funkeh` | prencher / Torhal / Torhal|work I just tagged 2 repos and nothing happened... |
01:09.25 | Torhal | Funkeh`: Looks like it's packaging to me |
01:09.31 | Torhal | @project basic-chat-mods |
01:09.32 | Repo | Torhal: [WoW] BasicChatMods (Updated Nov 07, 2012 at 01:03 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/basic-chat-mods/ |
01:09.55 | Torhal | Packaged 7 minutes ago, around the time you tagged. |
01:10.15 | Funkeh` | http://www.wowace.com/addons/basic-chat-mods/files/ |
01:10.20 | Funkeh` | http://www.wowace.com/addons/big-wigs/files/ |
01:10.23 | Funkeh` | no files |
01:10.26 | Funkeh` | no repo message |
01:10.38 | Funkeh` | no repo errors |
01:10.45 | Funkeh` | or package log for that matter |
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01:13.21 | Funkeh` | Torhal, seems the only thing indicating it's been tagged is the project activity log |
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01:29.12 | znf | !@#@!#!@)(#!_@#( !_@#(!@_#(! warriors |
01:30.15 | mckenziemc | drops a nuclear quiescens on znf. |
01:31.11 | Torhal | Funkeh`: How did you tag? Website? |
01:31.32 | Funkeh` | yes |
01:31.43 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r9407-release * r9407 : Tagging as r9407-release |
01:31.48 | Repo | basic-chat-mods: 03funkydude 04v6.8 * r383 : Tagging as v6.8 |
01:31.49 | Torhal | Yah, I just saw files, didn't look at state (was watching Walking Dead) |
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01:32.09 | Torhal | WTH, works now. |
01:32.22 | Funkeh` | thanks if that was you |
01:32.37 | Torhal | You didn't just tag again? |
01:32.39 | Torhal | Wasn't me. |
01:32.51 | quiescens | a wizard did it |
01:32.51 | Funkeh` | no I didnt |
01:32.55 | Torhal | Hrm, |
01:33.35 | Torhal | Well, prencher did change something to stop idiots from converting their projects to a repo project when they'd been uploading zips before and then tagging like it was going to do magical shit |
01:33.48 | Torhal | Maybe it's on a timer, unsure |
01:34.07 | Torhal | (people doing that would break the packager) |
01:35.00 | mckenziemc | maybe you should fix the root problem |
01:35.09 | mckenziemc | kills Torhal's users. |
01:35.15 | prencher | Torhal: I haven't done anything like that |
01:35.24 | Torhal | prencher: I thought you had? Or were? |
01:35.26 | Torhal | Hrm. |
01:35.26 | prencher | I stopped the packager from running on games its not supposed to |
01:35.32 | Torhal | That's pretty fucked up. |
01:35.51 | Torhal | prencher: Funkeh` tagged over 30 minutes ago, and nothing happened until 4 minutes ago |
01:36.06 | Torhal | Repo suddenly spouted both tags into the channel and the packager started packaging the tags |
01:36.41 | prencher | yeah that was because of something else |
01:36.43 | prencher | don't worry about it |
01:36.51 | prencher | queue backlog from a maintenance task |
01:36.58 | Torhal | Aah |
01:37.29 | Funkeh` | well now I can go collapse in bed |
01:37.31 | Funkeh` | fucking cold |
01:38.07 | Torhal | G'night. |
01:48.57 | quiescens | moo |
01:49.29 | mckenziemc | freezes quiescens mid-moo |
01:49.36 | mckenziemc | reverses |
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02:03.14 | znf | where's my HoF LFR? |
02:09.39 | Chosi | our server just "reset" |
02:09.46 | Chosi | so i guess it should be available now |
02:10.22 | znf | reset as in dailies reset? |
02:11.19 | znf | or restart? |
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02:14.06 | Repo | libperiodictable-3-1: 03muffinmanken * r409 / (2 files in 2 directories): Added a bunch of MoP potions |
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02:35.50 | Xuerian | So who of you are on Blackrock/US? |
02:36.50 | Dark_Elf | hmm xlootmonitor is broke again |
02:37.22 | Xuerian | Dark_Elf: It usually is. Are you using alpha versions? |
02:37.39 | Dark_Elf | it keep saying cant find deformat 2 |
02:37.49 | Xuerian | This is important, are you using alpha versions? :P |
02:38.03 | Dark_Elf | im using the last update |
02:38.41 | Dark_Elf | but it didnt start doing this error prior to updating the xloot |
02:38.48 | Xuerian | ... because you're using the alpha |
02:38.51 | Xuerian | Stop using the alpha :) |
02:39.17 | Dark_Elf | im confused |
02:39.20 | Xuerian | Or keep using it and tell me what /it/ breaks, but monitor will not work with it at all until I port it, which is soon |
02:39.43 | Dark_Elf | i will just wait |
02:40.01 | Dark_Elf | anyways deformat is old library anyways |
02:40.02 | quiescens | "soon" |
02:40.03 | Xuerian | Dark_Elf: XLoot z1+ is, essentially, XLoot 1.0. I will be rolling Group, Monitor, and Master into one core+module package. |
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02:40.13 | Xuerian | quiescens: It's actually moved from valve time to blizzard soon |
02:40.55 | quiescens | soon™ |
02:41.00 | Dark_Elf | ok so in other words when i updated xloot it overwrot the dummy? |
02:41.15 | quiescens | gasp |
02:41.27 | Xuerian | Dark_Elf: Yes. Either use Beta/release XLoot+Monitor, or use "Old Plugin Support" + 1.0 + whatever |
02:41.33 | Xuerian | But alpha is going to break stuff |
02:41.52 | Dark_Elf | ok thanks |
02:43.26 | Dark_Elf | it was working otherwise lol |
02:44.41 | znf | Xuerian, man, your versioning scheme sucks |
02:45.05 | znf | too many letters, too many numbers |
02:45.08 | Xuerian | znf: I'm a special snowflake |
02:45.29 | Xuerian | Really, I just picked a random letter because I'm a rebel and R is too mainstream |
02:45.45 | Xuerian | then ##.##.## means nothing to me, so I'm like "letters mean small changes" |
02:46.38 | Dark_Elf | ah crap i just noticeds something |
02:46.50 | znf | Xuerian, so basically, something that only you can understand |
02:47.14 | znf | hey, like I said, the decision to call it Xloot-1.0 was stupid in the first place :P |
02:47.17 | Gnarfoz | which is the only real requirement to a versioning scheme |
02:47.17 | Xuerian | znf: Hey |
02:47.17 | znf | so much confusion |
02:47.23 | Xuerian | At least the whole addon isn't shitty name now |
02:47.24 | Xuerian | Just versions :D |
02:47.25 | Dark_Elf | i have the old loot monitor and the new xloot_monitor in there lol |
02:47.38 | Xuerian | Dark_Elf: Hah. Yeah. Remove the alpha :p |
02:47.39 | Gnarfoz | who monitors the monitor? |
02:48.26 | znf | is following the US elections |
02:48.31 | znf | why the hell do I even care? |
02:48.40 | Xuerian | Because abject horror isn't picky |
02:48.45 | Dark_Elf | i may test it without the old plugin first and see if i still get error |
02:49.14 | Xuerian | Dark_Elf: New monitor does one thing, it adds a second "You receive" message to chat for debugging :P |
02:49.15 | znf | Dark_Elf, I don't think you understand :P |
02:49.29 | Xuerian | Seriously. Don't use the alpha if you want to use monitor. |
02:50.10 | Dark_Elf | right |
02:50.21 | znf | Dark_Elf, basically, he made a mess with the project names :P |
02:50.27 | Dark_Elf | no |
02:50.41 | Dark_Elf | its not mess i made a mess with my addons folder |
02:51.09 | Dark_Elf | i got xloot and 1.0 both in there |
02:51.09 | Xuerian | znf: That's actually not the issue right now, the issue with monitor is it still uses the devil's framework |
02:51.16 | Xuerian | Well. |
02:51.22 | Xuerian | I mean, the names aren't helping, buuut |
02:51.29 | znf | I know :P |
02:52.13 | Dark_Elf | anyways its good that is getting the ace2 out |
02:53.48 | Repo | battlegroundtargets: 03kunda * r166 BattlegroundTargets.lua: update |
02:54.19 | Dridzt | is this a good time to use LibDropdown for masterloot menus instead of the stock blizzard one? I still have a 'sort of working' implementation of that lying around |
02:55.05 | Dridzt | although I didn't see any issues with UIDropDown sofar with XLootMaster |
02:55.14 | Dark_Elf | also may want to drop the embeds and just put the libs in toc dont need an embeds |
02:55.17 | Dridzt | taint and such I mean |
02:57.37 | znf | Dridzt, haven't seen any taint so far with that |
02:58.17 | Dridzt | yes me neither and I masterloot often, but we're running 10mans so I haven't tested bigger menus |
02:59.47 | znf | I'm doing 25s |
03:04.57 | pompy | [08:01:06 PM]Korgol Crushskull yells: The Darkmoon Deathmatch is over! Pompalicious is the victor! |
03:08.10 | znf | lol |
03:08.15 | znf | forgot about Darkmoon |
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03:18.59 | Xuerian | Dridzt: Well, up to you. The new structure is perfectly happy with module-specific embeds, if you like, I can whip up and push the required stub code for master (most of it is there already, really) and throw some comments in so you can see what's changed |
03:19.38 | Dridzt | no need to do extra work for me, I'll figure it out :) |
03:19.54 | Dridzt | There's 1 thing that I never got around to implementing in xlootmaster |
03:20.22 | Xuerian | Dark_Elf: TOC files work, but the way you have to develop core-module addons plays into the hand of XMLs, because for us, it's actually one folder and all the modules are actually in the Modules folder instead of the root Addons folder. So we just load the "load.xml" for each module, and it loads itself |
03:20.25 | Dridzt | it needed a way to refresh the recipients menu with the rolls from the ML requested grouprolls after they're finished |
03:20.53 | Dridzt | if that made any sense how I said it :P |
03:20.58 | Xuerian | Dridzt: I'm not sure how to go about that now, purely because I haven't really thought about how the group rolls compare to /random, which it used to support |
03:21.03 | Xuerian | made sense :] |
03:22.13 | Dridzt | in the 'new' xlootmaster there's support for 2 kinds of raid rolls atm |
03:23.51 | Dridzt | assigning raidunits to 1-raidtotal and requesting a randomroll from server |
03:24.34 | Dridzt | requesting a grouproll (the new blizz functionality) |
03:24.41 | Xuerian | Right. |
03:24.51 | Dridzt | problem is in the default LootHistory frame |
03:25.16 | Dridzt | when ML spawns grouproll and raid responds, he gets a list with all the rolls and can right-click assign to winner |
03:25.48 | Dridzt | XLootMaster has no way to do that now, except in the ML's head :) |
03:26.03 | Xuerian | Request a roll, wait for the next roll, then store the rollID? |
03:27.33 | Dridzt | I believe LOOT_ROLLS_COMPLETE fires when everyone has responded |
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03:28.26 | Xuerian | I watch both LOOT_ROLLS_COMPLETE and LOOT_HISTORY_ROLL_COMPLETE, then just rescan the history to find the matching rollID in group |
03:28.51 | Xuerian | Wait, what do I do.. oh well. Probably can take this to PMs to keep the channel clear, too |
03:28.53 | Dridzt | getting who rolled what on which item is not much of a problem when ML requests a grouproll spawned |
03:29.09 | Dridzt | what was needed (one idea, might be something better) |
03:50.26 | Repo | xloot: 03Xuerian 07master * z1c-alpha-3-g8087849 Modules/ (7 files in 4 directories): [+3 commits] |
03:50.27 | Repo | 8087849: More verbose comments in options |
03:50.27 | Repo | 74d62ff: Fix monitor localization |
03:50.28 | Repo | d1452af: XLoot_Master stub |
03:50.35 | znf | Dridzt, I'm fine with that |
03:50.52 | znf | I mean, the way it works now :P |
03:51.39 | Xuerian | Don't tell me it's going to package that 0_o |
03:53.36 | Xuerian | Is there a way to keep the packager from packaging unless there's a new tag? |
03:58.19 | Stanzilla | Xuerian: are you still not done with confusing everyone with your xloot version madness? |
03:58.36 | Stanzilla | and yes to that question |
03:58.38 | znf | Xuerian, set the project to only package on release/beta? >_< |
03:58.50 | Xuerian | znf: I want to package on alpha, but not on tagless pushes :p |
03:59.02 | Xuerian | Stanzilla: NEVERRRR HOIST THE VERSIONS HIGH |
03:59.25 | znf | ...why would you tag alphas? :-| |
03:59.38 | znf | what purpose do the betas serve? |
03:59.46 | Xuerian | Well, there always the "Troll Dark_Elf" reason |
04:00.24 | Xuerian | Alpha> Fresh code for adventurous gits. Beta> Reasonably stable code that might still break things or isn't done. Release> herderrrr addonz r fun. |
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04:06.26 | Stanzilla | Xuerian: then disable package creation for everything but release and tag every alpha you want tested as release :o |
04:07.24 | znf | Stanzilla, shutdown is bullshit |
04:07.27 | Xuerian | Stanzilla: ARE YOU INSANE |
04:07.30 | Xuerian | D: |
04:07.32 | Stanzilla | Xuerian: no you are :( |
04:07.40 | Stanzilla | znf: I was sleeping until now so Idc |
04:08.25 | znf | Stanzilla, good, text me when the servers are up? :D |
04:08.32 | Stanzilla | sure |
04:09.10 | znf | +40748881658 |
04:09.50 | Xuerian | #1 idea EU |
04:10.20 | znf | Xuerian, at least I would get /some/ calls! |
04:10.41 | Xuerian | ... I know that feel =| |
04:10.46 | Dark_Elf | is not a troll :p |
04:11.36 | znf | Oooooh. |
04:11.42 | znf | Ok, now I realize why this was a bad idea |
04:11.46 | znf | this channel is weblogged :( |
04:12.16 | Stanzilla | rofl |
04:12.49 | Dark_Elf | thinks all addons are alpha |
04:12.58 | Xuerian | znf: Aaand there we go\ |
04:13.38 | znf | oh well |
04:13.40 | znf | more calls for me! |
04:13.41 | Dark_Elf | in fact i saw one day someone did a release and then 2 hours later did another release, i was thinking wtf |
04:13.48 | Fisker | so anyone know why Blizzard abandoned their own breaking news system for obscure twitter accounts? |
04:14.15 | Stanzilla | what breaking news system |
04:14.30 | znf | Stanzilla, logon message |
04:14.42 | Stanzilla | that is broken? |
04:14.45 | Stanzilla | ~wowalert |
04:14.45 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
04:14.51 | Stanzilla | indeed |
04:14.52 | Stanzilla | bitches |
04:15.25 | Xuerian | Dark_Elf: I do that often enough, it's called "Oh crap, there's a bug" |
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04:17.28 | Stanzilla | for me it's "should have tested that ingame. crap." |
04:17.44 | Xuerian | that too |
04:18.34 | Dark_Elf | so arent these just betas instead of release? |
04:19.57 | Xuerian | Which are you talking about? What Stanzilla and I said, or XLoot z1*? |
04:20.11 | Dark_Elf | addons in general |
04:20.23 | Stanzilla | that's up to the author, I guess |
04:21.21 | Xuerian | Pretty much that. Me, for example, I know a lot of people will be set to beta channel, so I don't want to package anything beta until I'm sure it mostly works. |
04:23.02 | znf | I don't know anyone who sets to beta |
04:23.12 | znf | all my addons are set to alpha |
04:23.18 | znf | with the exception of shadowed-dick |
04:23.46 | Dark_Elf | well i always download alpha |
04:23.58 | Dark_Elf | cause i want the latest |
04:24.53 | Dark_Elf | that way i can test em, and unfortunately when i find errors i tend to report them |
04:25.06 | Dark_Elf | but i guess i will stop doing that |
04:25.19 | Stanzilla | why |
04:25.23 | znf | I usually bug the people in here if it's one of their addons |
04:25.48 | Dark_Elf | well yeah that why i do it in here, cause goto website and they may not look at it for a month lol |
04:25.51 | Torhal | Xuerian: You broke my mind. |
04:25.59 | Xuerian | Dark_Elf: I'm glad you want to test it, and you're welcome to, I'm just saying Monitor won't work for you right now |
04:25.59 | Torhal | Tagging alphas? o.O |
04:26.14 | Torhal | Every push is an alpha unless followed by a tag. |
04:26.20 | Xuerian | Torhal: I really don't get why that's surprising, but it probably comes from the fact that I didn't know it packaged automatically on push |
04:26.21 | Torhal | Unless you turn packaging off :) |
04:26.28 | Torhal | Heh. |
04:26.42 | Xuerian | I prefer the cleaner version number, though |
04:26.43 | Torhal | Just the fact that it's been that way for years :) |
04:27.39 | Xuerian | Torhal: Well, curseforge wasn't around when I was working with the old ones/SVN, and since I started using Git, I tagged everything I wanted packaged, and that apparently happened whenever I pushed |
04:28.12 | Torhal | Xuerian: Haven't you been dealing with Xloot on CurseForge for over a year? |
04:28.35 | Xuerian | Torhal: See "Pushes have always coincided with tags" |
04:28.42 | Torhal | Ah. |
04:28.53 | Xuerian | Though I understand now :p |
04:30.00 | znf | curseforge is ugly |
04:30.02 | znf | wowace is better |
04:30.03 | Stanzilla | stop talking about it then, killing my half-asleep brain :8 |
04:30.04 | znf | and prettier |
04:30.05 | znf | and better |
04:30.06 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
04:30.07 | Fisker | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oQCCmuTn7k |
04:30.17 | Stanzilla | already saw that Fisker |
04:30.30 | Fisker | does it say anything interesting? |
04:30.35 | Fisker | I don't understand hitler that well |
04:30.35 | Stanzilla | no |
04:31.40 | Fisker | apparently LG and Samsung has gotten pretty pissed at Google for the N4 pricing :D |
04:32.10 | quiescens | o.o |
04:32.59 | Fisker | i just wish Google had done it in all markets |
04:33.05 | Xuerian | Doesn't really surprise me. Who manufactured the N4? |
04:33.07 | Fisker | but that's probably where LG put down their feet |
04:33.10 | Fisker | LG Xuerian |
04:33.29 | Xuerian | Huh, I figured they would be pushing their first in-house motorola out. |
04:33.44 | quiescens | what does samsung have to do with it? |
04:33.52 | Fisker | they make phones? |
04:34.05 | Fisker | even Apple is probably pissed about this |
04:34.55 | znf | Good if they're pissed |
04:35.00 | znf | I'm hoping they don't run out of parts by summer |
04:35.04 | znf | so I can buy one for cheap |
04:35.15 | quiescens | iuno, for lg its maybe okay but for everyone else its like, you can't really complain about the competition's pricing |
04:35.33 | Fisker | Samsung is also a partner |
04:35.46 | Xuerian | Sure you can. Does it make sense is another question. |
04:36.06 | znf | Nobody's stopping them to up the "game" and produce better cheaper phones ^^ |
04:36.06 | Fisker | imo they got greedy |
04:36.23 | Fisker | it wasn't hard to find the highest end android phones in the 399->449€ level |
04:36.34 | quiescens | complaining about someone selling stuff cheaper than you is probably a bad marketing decision |
04:36.36 | Fisker | but they felt like throwing another 100-200€ on top of that |
04:37.40 | znf | I'm glad they made an 8GB version |
04:37.53 | znf | heck, most people I know would settle for a 4GB version for even cheaper :P |
04:38.37 | quiescens | 4 is probably low for a lot of people |
04:39.05 | Xuerian | Doesn't it have a sd card, or are they pushing drive/music cloud storage? |
04:39.23 | Fisker | Google hasn't used sd cards for a while now |
04:39.24 | znf | quiescens, not every stores music on their phones |
04:39.29 | znf | everyone* |
04:39.34 | Fisker | They basically officially said "Fuck SD cards" with Android 3.0 |
04:39.46 | znf | The only 2 MP3s I have on my phone are my ringtone and alarm tone... |
04:40.21 | quiescens | i know but there's still emails and apps and photos and such and a lot of people would appreciate the leeway of having the 8 |
04:40.22 | Fisker | I wish they had put a 32GB at 349€ though |
04:40.29 | Fisker | 16GB at 329€ |
04:41.04 | Xuerian | Fisker: Really? That bothers me =\ |
04:41.25 | quiescens | to be fair |
04:41.30 | Fisker | They say SD Cards are pretty terrible |
04:41.38 | quiescens | sd cards have almost never been particularly well.. |
04:41.39 | Fisker | because they basically force everyone into formatting FAT |
04:41.41 | quiescens | handled |
04:42.05 | znf | yup, FAT is a shitty system |
04:42.06 | Fisker | and they don't like having app developers deal with FAT nor storage being unmounted |
04:42.10 | Xuerian | They're pretty terrible, but so is paying out the nose for transfer past your cap, or if you have really low data speeds in your area and trying to cloud everything. =\ |
04:42.35 | quiescens | its always treated as a secondary storage that is a lot harder to use and/or very limited in what you can use it for |
04:44.53 | Xuerian | Anyway, that said, 4GB without a sd-card is pretty terrible, that's worse than my D2 I picked up off ebay years ago |
04:45.08 | znf | I have 3GB space left on my 8GB sd-card... |
04:45.23 | znf | and 1gb is used by the rom (as I have an old phone without much internal storage) |
04:45.34 | quiescens | technically we were saying that it doesn't havea 4gb |
04:45.34 | quiescens | lol |
04:45.36 | znf | and ~2gb are just backups of old roms I can't be arsed to delete :P |
04:45.49 | znf | so I'm using less than 4gb :D |
04:46.16 | Fisker | yeah i almost never use up more than 8-10GB of storage anyway |
04:46.21 | Fisker | and that was with the S3 |
04:46.32 | Fisker | their fucking roms is like 1GB |
04:46.49 | znf | the biggest file I ever had was an 720p recording (~15 minutes) that was like 1gb |
04:47.02 | znf | Why do you want a N4 if you have an S3? |
04:47.13 | Xuerian | Eeeehh, yeah, realistically it isn't that bad. It only gets bad when I try to stock up on audiobooks or something. |
04:47.26 | znf | anyway |
04:47.27 | Xuerian | Or if you're trying to use it as a camcorder, that too. |
04:47.30 | znf | obama seems to have won |
04:47.32 | znf | can go to bed now |
04:47.37 | Xuerian | o/ |
04:47.42 | Fisker | why wouldn't obama win? |
04:47.46 | quiescens | anyway, i still kind of think using an sdcard as extra storage would be nicer if it just merged with the built in storage |
04:48.02 | znf | quiescens, that can't be done |
04:48.06 | znf | because fat32 |
04:48.17 | quiescens | sure it can |
04:48.38 | Xuerian | A little iffy on that one. Hard to determine what happens if it is seamless. But I'm not saying the current/previous situation is good either |
04:48.47 | Fisker | a JBOD configuration could be possible but they would have to sacrifice using FAT32 atleast |
04:49.03 | Fisker | or convert to using it entirely |
04:49.11 | Fisker | which should never happen |
04:49.52 | quiescens | the thingy about it is probaably just they feel a need to be able to cleanly handle the card being removed unexpectedly |
04:50.28 | Fisker | it's not much of an android problem but rather an app developer one |
04:50.35 | Fisker | google just took the decision on behalf of them |
04:51.17 | Xuerian | I mean, really. Internal storage needs to be adequate, but optional explicitly unreliable SD storage seems like it should be a option. |
04:51.26 | quiescens | another option is having no memory built in and just using a card as the primary storage |
04:53.04 | Xuerian | Not practical while it's so shitty |
04:53.25 | Xuerian | Really, keeping media on the card and apps/data on the phone seems to make a lot of sense |
04:53.51 | quiescens | anymoo, i would say its mostly a) not wanting to have little slots so they can make the phone look better and/or smaller, and b) allowing them have the distinct price points |
04:54.14 | quiescens | the implementation reasons are fairly easy to deal with |
04:54.33 | Xuerian | quiescens: Doesn't need a slot, just have it under the battery lid somewhere |
04:54.45 | Xuerian | Price points makes sense though |
04:55.46 | quiescens | there's still the electrical contacts, the place to put it, the controller if needed that take up room |
04:56.32 | quiescens | do they actually have a battery lid |
04:57.25 | Xuerian | Yeah, it does require extra hardware either way you slide it |
04:57.35 | Xuerian | Not sure about the N4 though. |
04:57.40 | Fisker | not on the n4 |
04:57.44 | Fisker | well there is a battery lid |
04:57.48 | Fisker | but it's secured by screws |
04:57.49 | Fisker | :D |
04:58.09 | Xuerian | My Evo runs CM10 more or less fine :[ |
04:58.14 | Fisker | (But atleast those screws can be removed without spending 50€ on an iphone liberator kit) |
04:59.39 | Fisker | http://twitpic.com/b9sddk/full |
05:00.16 | Fisker | 2 T4 screws and the rest is just standard screws :D |
05:00.47 | Xuerian | Fisker: I'm just confused about why they didn't include a LTE radio |
05:00.51 | Fisker | they did |
05:00.54 | Fisker | just no antenna for it |
05:01.17 | Xuerian | s/a LTE radio/actual LTE capability/ |
05:01.29 | Fisker | And they didn't include LTE because doing so requires carrier certification which again means that Google is kept out of the loop on software |
05:01.43 | Xuerian | Ah. |
05:02.45 | Fisker | But wouldn't it be amazing if LTE just laid dormant and all you had to do was activate it? :P |
05:03.07 | Fisker | was hoping there had been a microsd slot not removed under that backplate, but wishful thinking :D |
05:03.22 | Fisker | that's what they did with wp7 i believe |
05:03.37 | Fisker | was a damn microsd slot in it when you popped it open |
05:03.43 | Xuerian | I'm looking forward to phones using that improved antenna that came up recently |
05:03.54 | Xuerian | I'm tired of reception getting worse with more towers going up >:( |
05:46.18 | quiescens | clearly the solution is to use a landline |
05:50.43 | Wobin | Tin cans and string |
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06:24.51 | Caleb| | ~wowalert |
06:24.51 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
06:25.46 | Stanzilla | Fisker: I might get it for 316 euros but that would be on 10.12 |
06:25.47 | Stanzilla | :/ |
06:26.01 | Fisker | :( |
06:27.33 | Stanzilla | notsurewhattodo |
06:30.24 | Stanzilla | Fisker: fuck media markt |
06:30.30 | Stanzilla | I just do google play |
06:30.36 | Fisker | me too |
06:30.58 | Fisker | i do require some form of sleep |
06:31.18 | Fisker | i could watch some tv |
06:31.27 | Fisker | but you never know with blizzard |
06:31.48 | Stanzilla | why do you want to stay up? galleon? |
06:31.58 | Fisker | yeah |
06:40.43 | Xuerian | Fisker: Blackrock? |
06:41.42 | Fisker | no |
06:41.46 | Fisker | EU |
06:41.48 | Fisker | and Tarren Mill |
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08:10.28 | quiescens | moo |
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08:20.39 | Xuerian | beep |
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09:28.32 | Repo | serenity-now: 03calahil * r2 / (85 files in 23 directories): -Fix the broken SVN |
09:30.58 | Repo | mastershapeshifter (experimental): 03cielazure * r118 MasterShapeShifter (4 files in 2 directories): hide while in vehicles |
09:32.46 | znf | oh come on stupid maintenance |
09:38.30 | quiescens | o.o |
09:39.02 | mckenziemc | quiescens. |
09:43.34 | Repo | serenity-now: 03calahil * r3 / (4 files in 1 directory): -Fix for the SVN |
09:46.54 | Repo | serenity-now: 03calahil 040.9rc9 * r4 : Tagging as 0.9rc9 |
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10:47.22 | sb | morning |
10:47.43 | quiescens | moo |
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11:51.16 | Stanzilla | http://vimeo.com/52933870 |
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12:25.16 | sb | "Leider müssen wir die Wartungsarbeiten um vorraussichtlich 2 Stunden verlängern, um wichtige Tests an den Servern durchzuführen" |
12:25.19 | sb | galleon \o/ |
12:25.21 | sb | nice |
12:25.41 | Chosi | yayers |
12:26.09 | Chosi | bis wann? |
12:26.25 | sb | ETA 15:00 |
12:26.36 | Chosi | meh |
12:26.44 | sb | could also be 14 / 16 / 17 uhr :D |
12:27.50 | nevcairiel | or maybe never! |
12:36.59 | Repo | libstatlogic-1-2: 03JackTripper * r188 LibStatLogic-1.2/LibStatLogic-1.2.lua: |
12:37.00 | Repo | - changed Monk's APPerAgi from 0 to 2. Nobody knows if two is right, but it might be more correct than zero |
12:52.59 | Stanzilla | so today I had to work on a script that reads variables from a db, injects it into html and generates a pdf from it |
12:53.15 | quiescens | grats |
12:53.19 | Stanzilla | sad part is, the guy never told us how the db is structured and what the names of everything is |
12:53.47 | Stanzilla | so now we have a cool strict that can inject "dickbat" into a lot of fields in a pdf |
12:53.49 | Stanzilla | \o/ |
12:56.52 | Fisker | sounds like mad |
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13:28.36 | Stanzilla | writes sms to znf |
13:30.50 | nevcairiel | wait you want all the information required to do your job before you start? like that ever happens :P |
13:31.14 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: took him like 5 hours to send a sample sql query code they used |
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13:31.17 | Stanzilla | that said..nothing |
13:31.36 | nevcairiel | if you have access to the db, you can just go snoop around in it! |
13:32.50 | Stanzilla | we don't |
13:34.34 | sb | ewww |
13:34.37 | sb | Stanzilla is doing some work? |
13:34.55 | sb | REAL work? |
13:36.34 | prencher | Don't be ridiculous |
13:37.13 | Stanzilla | :( |
13:37.40 | Stanzilla | I do that from time to time you know |
13:38.08 | sb | <3 IT, putting all new email accounts in PDFs+XLS file on a network share anyone can access |
13:38.13 | sb | *head => desk* |
13:39.16 | sb | see, maintenance finished |
13:39.52 | sb | *checks for galleon* |
13:40.31 | Stanzilla | I got gold |
13:40.34 | Stanzilla | very happy about that |
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13:45.40 | Stanzilla | znf: wake up already |
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13:47.04 | sb | no galleon here |
13:47.32 | nevcairiel | didnt they change it so that he has a high chance to spawn sometime after a restart, but doesnt spawn instantly anymore? |
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13:47.55 | Stanzilla | their system is a buggy piece of shit |
13:49.56 | quiescens | o.o |
13:59.31 | Fisker | bam dat berserk on blade lord |
14:00.08 | Fisker | it's always been instant up after logging in here nevcairiel |
14:04.07 | sb | For a limited time, the 840 Pro SSDs will also include a code for a downloadable full version of the highly anticipated video game "Assassin's Creed® III," |
14:04.10 | sb | nice :D |
14:04.16 | Stanzilla | yeah |
14:04.22 | Stanzilla | I bet that will be us only or so |
14:06.47 | Fisker | too bad sb |
14:06.52 | Fisker | i wish Stanzilla |
14:07.03 | Stanzilla | why Fisker |
14:07.12 | sb | WHATS BAD Fisker? |
14:07.18 | Fisker | because noone wants ass creed 3 |
14:07.28 | Fisker | well maybe if it was ass creed 3 |
14:07.33 | Fisker | but not assassins creed 3 |
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14:25.06 | Chosi | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/notes-uneed/tickets/70-in-game-calendar/ |
14:25.07 | Chosi | ha! |
14:25.11 | Chosi | i'm not alone :> |
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14:29.01 | quiescens | go to sleep |
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14:59.25 | Fisker | yay Stanzilla |
14:59.27 | Fisker | i got dps leg plates |
14:59.30 | Fisker | which i got last week |
15:00.55 | sb | y so dpsy? |
15:02.18 | Repo | basic-chat-mods: 03funkydude * r385 playernames.lua: playernames: missed an extra check |
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15:23.05 | sb | oh, still no HoF heroic kill!? |
15:24.15 | Funkeh` | is someone streaming or? |
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15:40.05 | Caleb| | dancing is serious business sb |
15:44.03 | sb | Caleb|: no offense, just wondering :o |
15:47.06 | Caleb| | didn't get offended, just letting you know that dancing is serious business |
15:49.15 | sb | also, what dancing? |
15:49.59 | Caleb| | Attenuation |
15:50.12 | sb | ugh, i see |
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16:00.09 | Stanzilla | Caleb|: is everyone really wiping to that? |
16:01.18 | Caleb| | it is just basically you can't really loose people at srtart, cuz you'll loose people last phase |
16:01.35 | Caleb| | but you know how it is, there always some new guys dieing to the mechanic |
16:01.48 | Stanzilla | looking forward to it |
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17:58.17 | znf | Stanzilla, Fisker: thanks |
17:58.22 | znf | but I was SO dead asleep |
17:58.28 | znf | didn't hear shit :-/ |
17:59.14 | Fisker | they were dicks znf |
17:59.21 | znf | Uh? |
17:59.28 | znf | ah, Blizzard? biggest |
18:00.25 | Fisker | wrote around 13:00 that servers were coming up |
18:00.28 | Fisker | then lol nope wait 2 hours |
18:01.02 | pompy | yeah it was extended for us too |
18:01.16 | znf | pompy, was it extended TWICE? |
18:01.28 | pompy | unsure of that, i was at work!! |
18:01.49 | pompy | all i know is galleon spawned 15 mins before i got off of work.. /rage :P |
18:01.50 | pompy | :( |
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18:06.38 | Fisker | so Stanzilla |
18:06.46 | Fisker | now anandtech says those benchmarks were done in a freezer |
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18:32.31 | Repo | New announcement: Subversion Rollbacks for a Subset of Repositories - Access Temporarily Disabled - http://www.wowace.com/announcements/subversion-rollbacks-for-a-subset-of-repositories-access/ |
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18:36.59 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: FascistGnome is missing (at least one) translation entry |
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19:00.59 | Fisker | i fear for my very life znf |
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19:37.42 | Megalon | you shall throw a holy grenade |
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19:51.22 | Slayman | How can you have so little overview as a tank, stone guard is really not that hard |
19:53.37 | Lobster | it's harder to manage as a tank than all of the bosses the tiers before |
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21:03.29 | Kemayo | znf: You may have to be more specific about "fix handynotes_lorewalkers". |
21:07.34 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: also, fascistgnome opens whisper/chat windows to everyone who's missing something |
21:08.32 | Slayman | I shouldn't have switched from tanking to rogue, I believe I could do it. I hate being halted by sth I cannot do anything about |
21:10.36 | znf | @project handynotes_lorewalkers |
21:10.36 | Repo | znf: [WoW] HandyNotes_Lorewalkers (Updated Oct 08, 2012 at 17:05 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/handynotes_lorewalkers/ |
21:10.59 | znf | Kemayo, read curse.com comments :) |
21:11.47 | Gnarfoz | without anything in them |
21:12.31 | Xuerian | Kemayo, why is it so hard to drag betterquest trackers around :( |
21:28.38 | znf | we go 10m? we get 7 raid drops on trash |
21:28.42 | znf | we go 25m? no trash drops |
21:29.57 | Gnarfoz | sux to be you |
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22:23.10 | Torhal|work | Xuerian: I know, it's insane. |
22:26.53 | znf | sb, first boss in hof talents? |
22:27.31 | Stanzilla | divine star or cascade, you are in melee range all the time |
22:31.52 | znf | meh |
22:31.56 | znf | ToF / FDCL ? |
22:32.56 | znf | every time i see "Supplicant" I'm thinking of wpa_supplicant |
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22:52.21 | highly | Is Grum there? |
22:53.45 | Stanzilla | points at Grum |
22:54.12 | highly | xD |
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22:54.52 | highly | but afk :/ |
23:01.53 | Repo | syllabus: 03LaoTseu 07master * v1.0-16-g5ae22aa Syllabus.lua: [+1 commit] Ticket #39 - Trying to fix the deformat code for the ERR_SKILL_UP_SI string so it works with the German client. |
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23:18.46 | sb | znf: di+fdcl+halo :p |
23:19.00 | sb | and dno Stanzilla, easy to stay at ~20y |
23:19.06 | znf | meh |
23:19.29 | Stanzilla | I've never been there sb |
23:19.29 | Stanzilla | :D |
23:20.03 | sb | znf: movement, so di+fdcl is great :D |
23:20.03 | sb | same for second boss |
23:20.10 | znf | meh |
23:20.14 | znf | we didn't kill it anyway |
23:20.22 | sb | garalon is tof |
23:24.10 | sb | znf: you didnt kill the first boss? :o |
23:24.23 | znf | I didn't |
23:24.35 | znf | we had ~30 minutes left for HoF |
23:24.35 | znf | so eh |
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23:25.39 | sb | mindfactory: BETTER GIEV SSD TOMORROW |
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23:38.54 | sb | <PROTECTED> |
23:39.18 | znf | I don't have the patience required to watch videos |
23:39.57 | znf | unless they suddenly start making "demos" in the game like, for example, counter-strike has, to load something in the game client and "play it back" with MY UI and see the stuff I want... videos are shit |
23:40.18 | sb | i see :D |
23:40.22 | sb | so we still hate Stanzilla? |
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