IRC log for #wowace on 20120917

00:02.20Repoarl: 03resa1983 07master * 2.4-88-gea658c6 / (12 files in 3 directories): [+1 commit] Update Exodar trainers Add Azuremyst Isle trainer "Iranis Shadebloom" Add Teldrassil trainer "Valn" - missed on previous scan Add a bunch of missing RecipeIDs
00:10.55Reposexymap: 03funkydude 07master * v2.2-7-g5f5f4c4 / (5 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
00:10.55Repo5f5f4c4: HudMap: Add a toggle option for _NPCScan.Overlay
00:10.56Repo8395110: Buttons: more addon buttons
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00:39.22Repocollectinator: 03Torhal 072.0 * 1.1.1-175-g48203dd / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
00:39.22Repo48203dd: New dump using the new ids. Insanely different results. GG.
00:39.23Repo245b4d0: Dropped the creature_id being supplied by LibPetJournal - use the one supplied by C_PetJournal.GetPetInfoByIndex()
00:39.38Torhalthwacks End_
00:40.19End_hm?
00:40.39Torhal^
00:40.54End_which creature_id is that
00:41.06End_and you're using GetPetInfoByIndex?
00:41.18Torhalfor index in LPJ:IterateCreatureIDs() do
00:41.26TorhalI was using for index, creature_id in
00:41.31TorhalYour API docs don't specify
00:41.39End_hm
00:41.48kagaroanyone else notice the guild rep doesn't seem to be working correctly on live?
00:41.51End_yes, it should be index, creature_id
00:41.56TorhalOnce I dropped creature_id and just used index, I got way different results
00:41.57Reporating-buster: 03gathirer * r376 / (9 files in 2 directories):
00:41.57Repo- Fixed stats with commas in them to display after the complete number and evaluate at the proper value.  Bit PITA but its done.
00:42.06Ressyhow so kagaro?
00:42.12End_oh
00:42.13End_no
00:42.14TorhalIE: Used the creature_id supplied by C_PetJournal.GetPetInfoByIndex()
00:42.34End_it's just a simple list
00:42.39kagarook i had an alt guild its level 1, i just added my main to it in prep to server transfer and my main is almost exalted after just joining
00:42.58TorhalEnd_: Well, I was expecting the real creature_id, not something completely different.
00:42.59TorhalHeh
00:43.02RessyThey changed how rep works with guilds
00:43.04End_what do you mean real?
00:43.18Ressyif you leave a guild, and join a new one, you drop 1 reputation level, instead of losing all reputation
00:43.36AckisRessy: isn't that cool? and there's no cap either
00:44.07End_hm
00:44.10End_they look real to me
00:44.12MysticalOSare people still creating new guilds and getting it to 25 in a day?
00:44.13AckisEnd_: the numbers given by LPJ are completely weird and don't exist, however the numbers given by the API call return basically the NPC ID of all the pets
00:44.17TorhalEnd_: Using "for index, creature_id in LPJ:IterateCreatureIDs() do" I did a dump. When I DROPPED creature_id and just used index, and used the creature_id supplied by C_PetJournal.GetPetInfoByIndex(), the dump showed drastically different numbers.
00:44.24End_well
00:44.38TorhalAnd the new numbers conform with WoWDB/WoWHead.
00:44.58End_the indexes from :IterateCreatureIDs don't correspond to GetPetInfoByIndex
00:45.11Torhal...
00:45.15TorhalHead asplode.
00:45.25End_Regretably, they're a internal detail
00:45.40Ackishahahhahahahah
00:45.44AckisI think I just peed myself
00:45.45TorhalIf they're internal, don't expose them to the user, or document better. Hehe
00:46.05AckisEnd_: Torhal and I have been arguing/debating this for 7-8 hours now
00:46.25End_I wasn't sure how to do that at first, and by now I realized I should have just return them in random order (ie, used the table as a hash not an array)
00:46.57End_the pattern does follow IteratePetIDs though
00:47.23End_also, is there a particular reason you want creatureid?
00:47.33End_speciesID is generally better
00:47.55TorhalCollectinator 2.0
00:48.04End_well okay, that still doesn't explain one thing though
00:48.16TorhalCan't verify shit with the DB sites using species ID.
00:48.17End_you're not getting valid creatureIDs?
00:48.21End_oh
00:48.28End_yeah the db sites kinda suck for that
00:48.41TorhalI wasn't until I dropped the creature_id return value from IterateByCreatureID
00:49.01TorhalJust used the one the PetJournal told me was valid for the index.
00:49.45End_you must be getting different results than me, or I have tried nearly enough
00:50.45TorhalEnd_: http://o7.no/QiW4GI
00:51.00TorhalRed is using values returned by LPJ:IterateByCreatureIDs()
00:51.13mckenziemcStart
00:51.17TorhalGreen is using what the PetJournal said the creature_id was for that index.
00:51.25End_okay
00:51.26End_I see
00:51.38End_yeah, ignore index
00:51.48TorhalNo, I use index.
00:51.54End_there's your mistake
00:51.58TorhalI ignore creature_id now
00:51.59End_why are you using index
00:52.07End_index isn't relavant at all, other than it counts from 1 to #number
00:52.18TorhalIt's the first return value, adn your Docs don't say how to use it? :)
00:52.22TorhalHehe
00:52.27End_my docs should probably say
00:52.28End_don't use it
00:52.44End_what LPJ is doing is collecting everything into lists
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00:53.07End_what I should have done it not lists but instead hash tables and iterated using next instead
00:53.11TorhalIt just says "Get an iterator over the list of creature ids."
00:53.16TorhalThat's it.
00:53.16End_yes it's a list
00:53.57TorhalOk, but how do I get the information from the PetJournal if I don't use index?
00:54.00Torhalo.O
00:54.11TorhalThe creature ID at that point is useless to me. :)
00:54.16End_that's why I said speciesID is much better than creature ID
00:54.44End_I guess
00:54.51End_I could make a mapping that goes creatureID to speciesID
00:54.54End_and save that
00:55.02End_yes, I will do that
00:55.27TorhalI'm just using IterateByCreatureIDs(), using the index value, and ignoring creature_id
00:55.37End_yes, and that will give you wronger results
00:55.41TorhalBecause IteratePetIDs is useless to be since it only uses what you KNOW.
00:55.46End_no
00:55.49TorhalI want all.
00:55.50End_well it shouldn't
00:55.51End_and
00:55.59End_oh wait
00:56.00End_I misread
00:56.00End_yes
00:56.02End_I agree
00:56.23End_I will add the ability to map from creature id to species id though
00:58.59End_blahrgh
01:00.18End_I'm half tempted to bump the major and do it right
01:00.40quiescensfinishing things is overrated
01:02.28TorhalEnd_: I would suggest having IteratePetIDs work as expected. The docs do not say it only works on pets you know, and I wouldn't have known to avoid it like the plague for Collectinator had I not looked at the lib code.
01:03.04End_works as expected?
01:03.07End_how do you mean
01:03.09End_?
01:03.18End_there isn't such a thing as a pet id for a pet you don't own
01:03.33TorhalI must be thinking index then.
01:03.35TorhalBah
01:03.38TorhalSorry.
01:03.40mckenziemcTorhal: why do you keep overwriting 'pet' without using it o.O
01:03.47mckenziemcin that paste (assuming it's source)
01:04.04End_Really, my big mistake was making the iterator iterate over a list
01:04.34Torhalmckenziemc: That's the beginning of the Collectinator 2.0 DB. It'll have things like: pet:AddFilters() etcetera
01:04.42mckenziemcah
01:05.03End_hm
01:05.32End_I wonder if anyone uses index as just a number from 1 to #totalowned
01:06.21TorhalI use it as 1 to #existing and tally total owned by incrementing each time is_owned is true.
01:09.05znf#torhal
01:09.21Torhallua_bot: >#znf
01:09.22lua_botTorhal: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '>'
01:09.31quiescenso.o
01:09.35Torhallua_bot: > print(#znf)
01:09.36lua_botTorhal: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '>'
01:09.43Torhallua_bot: print(#znf)
01:09.43lua_botTorhal: luabot:1: attempt to get length of global 'znf' (a nil value)
01:09.47quiescenslua>1
01:09.47lua_botquiescens: 1
01:09.48TorhalThere we go.
01:09.57mckenziemc"Applicants who do not pass either [driver license] exams [sic] may, depending on the circumstances, be referred to a vision specialist. The vision specialist may prescribe eye glasses or a stronger prescription for the current eye glasses worn."
01:10.09mckenziemca stronger prescription for the current eye glasses? o.O
01:10.13Torhal"Or, they may tell you to fuck off."
01:10.26Torhalmckenziemc: Yes. They tack extra lenses on.
01:10.28TorhalHeh.
01:11.35TorhalGotcha.
01:11.59Repocollectinator: 03Ackis 072.0 * 1.1.1-176-g2664221 Database/PetDB.lua: [+1 commit] Revert PetDB.lua to state this morning.
01:13.25End_man I am tired
01:13.42End_took me several minutes to realize I spelled function as fucntion
01:13.43AckisEnd_: we're gonna lynch you
01:13.49End_:<
01:14.04End_why are we lyching me now
01:14.24Ackisdo *I* need a reason? :)
01:14.31End_it..it'd be nice
01:17.44Reposmartres2: 03myrroddin * r213 SmartRes2.lua:
01:17.44Repo- Hopefully finally fix that stupid error (ticket #64) thanks to Dridzt and funkydude
01:17.45End_:GetSpeciesIDForCreatureID or GetSpeciesIDOfCreatureID?
01:18.27End_of probably doesn't give the idea that it might be related to some sort of loop
01:18.41ShefkiFor
01:19.01End_for it is
01:19.15End_it didn't help that of looked weird when I tried to change it
01:20.39Repocollectinator: 03Torhal 072.0 * 1.1.1-177-g7180659 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Replaced all commented-out Pet Battle pets with real data.
01:23.49znflua_bot: print(#Torhal)
01:23.49lua_botznf: luabot:1: attempt to get length of global 'Torhal' (a nil value)
01:24.11znf@project smartres2
01:24.11Repoznf: [WoW] SmartRes2 (Updated Sep 17, 2012 at 01:18 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/smartres2/
01:24.25quiescenso.o
01:24.39quiescensgives znf a cookie
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01:25.09znfare you trying to make me fat?
01:25.46valdarinwow this channel is quite popular. hi all.
01:27.50End_okay I updated the documentation so maybe it'll be harder to confuse
01:28.00valdarinI've got a general Lua question and I'm hoping someone might have a quick answer. I understand the use of ellipses in the context of an argument list for a function, but what might it mean when you declare a variable as 'local var = ...'
01:28.02End_Torhal: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/libpetjournal-2-0/pages/api/ <-- any better?
01:28.04valdarinany help appreciated =)
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01:30.38TorhalEnd_: Yes. Now I understand why IterateSpeciesIDs() might be useful
01:31.22End_I am so bad at writing documentation :<
01:32.30TorhalEnd_: Practice :)
01:32.51Shefkivaldarin: local var = ... will just pull the first value off the list
01:33.23Stanzillareplaces Torhal
01:33.41Stanzillaalso hey Shefki
01:33.51ShefkiSo if you have a function like this: function foo(...) local var = ...; print(var) end then foo(1,2,3) will print 1
01:35.16quiescenslua> function foo(...) local var = ...; print(var) end foo(1,2,3)
01:35.16lua_botquiescens: 1
01:35.22quiescensgasp
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01:36.05Shefkiquiescens: Did you doubt me?
01:36.19quiescensnot particularly
01:37.07valdarinshefki: thanks for the response. to clarify, the '...' in your example essentially becomes a local variable in the scope of the function so you are just assignin the passed in list from the function call?
01:37.13valdarinor is there some nuance of lua I am unfamiliar with?
01:37.22Shefkivaldarin: ... has special meaning
01:37.44ShefkiIt's treated as a list (something that really isn't used anywhere else in Lua)
01:37.53ShefkiAnd no I don't mean a table, literally a list.
01:38.01ShefkiYou'll see it used with select() a lot
01:38.11ShefkiThe only other place you'll see a list used is in function returns.
01:38.49Shefkihttp://www.lua.org/pil/5.2.html
01:39.13znflua> function moo(...) local var = ...; print(var) end foo(dies,O.o)
01:39.13lua_botznf: luabot:1: attempt to index global 'O' (a nil value)
01:39.24znflua> function moo(...) local var = ...; print(var) end foo("dies","O.o","go to sleep")
01:39.25lua_botznf: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'foo' (a nil value)
01:39.26znfmeh
01:39.28valdarinjust so you know i've tried to do my homework, I have been reading here http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#3.4.10
01:39.40znflua> function moo(...) local var = ...; print(var) end moo("dies","O.o","go to sleep")
01:39.41lua_botznf: dies
01:40.15Shefkivaldarin: What I pointed at should be more elightening.
01:40.25valdarinyea i'm reading through now. ty.
01:41.55ShefkiHmm that might be a tad old.
01:41.59ShefkiSince it's mentioning arg
01:42.11ShefkiWhich I believe is gone now form the WoW Lua interpretor.
01:42.14valdarinit says 5.2. is that not te current version?
01:42.32ShefkiNo that's section 5.2
01:42.39valdarinoh hah
01:42.52ShefkiBut the manual is for Lua 5.0
01:42.53valdarini see, written for 5.0
01:42.54ShefkiWoW is 5.1
01:43.28End_that's kinda funny
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01:43.35End_since arg went away, and select is the light now
01:43.49ShefkiAnyway arg is replaced by ...
01:44.04ShefkiIt used to be the ... was converted to a hidden table named arg
01:44.15valdarinas I'm sure is obvious, I am new to Lua. closest experience for me is Python.
01:44.17ShefkiBut now you can just use ... to access the list directly.
01:44.24valdarinwhich having spent a day looking, isn't as similar as I had hoped
01:44.40ShefkiSo it now longer has to marshal the list to a table.
01:45.00Shefkis/now/no/
01:46.16valdarinis there a special meaning for '...' in the global scope of a file? eg, outside of a function definition?
01:46.32Shefkivaldarin: In WoW yes.
01:46.34End_stuff in the global scope still gets mashed into a function
01:46.35ShefkiIn normal Lua no.
01:46.54Shefki... is now a list of some special things that are passed to each addon.
01:47.09valdarinaha
01:47.13valdarinnow that makes all kinds of sense
01:47.13ShefkiIIRC the first arg is the addon name.
01:47.18ShefkiThe second one is a table.
01:47.34valdarini'm looking at a line that reads: local ADDON_NAME, private = ...
01:47.40End_yeah
01:47.46ShefkiThe table is there so you can share data between files in your addon without using global variables.
01:47.55End_private isn't exposed anywhere, but every file in the addon gets the same table
01:47.56ShefkiBefore that was there you'd have to use at least one global variable.
01:48.55valdarinpractical question - is there a way to easily debug the contents of a data structure. for example, in this case I now have a var private. can you just print that to the screen or do you need to use a built in to unpack it?
01:48.59valdarineg dir() in python
01:49.03valdarinif anybody is familiar with that
01:49.06End_there is /dump
01:49.11End_but
01:49.23End_that doesn't really help you a ton
01:49.37End_usually I ended up exposing the particular variable I want to see in a global so I can examine it after
01:50.05valdarincould you do something as simple as self:Print(private)
01:50.07ShefkiLike End_ if I need to debug something like that I usually do something liek this:
01:50.08valdarinor would that just barf?
01:50.10Shefkishefki = private
01:50.14ShefkiWithout a local
01:50.20End_I guess you could do DevTools_Dump(var) but it doesn't work if Blizzard_DevTools isn't loaded yet
01:50.21ShefkiAnd then I can /dump shefki
01:50.40ShefkiEnd_: LoadAddOn("Blizzard_DevTools"); DevTools_Dump(var)
01:50.42valdarin<PROTECTED>
01:50.46End_yeah that would work
01:50.57Shefkivaldarin: Yes it's part of the Blizzard_DevTools addon.
01:51.10ShefkiWhich is a slightly modified version of the DevTools addon a lot of us used to run.
01:51.22ShefkiActually I still run it since the blizzard version is slightly inferior.
01:53.11quiescensisn't it always
01:53.52Shefki"sysLocation    Sitting on the Dock of the Bay"
01:53.55ShefkiSomeone got cute...
01:54.52valdarinnow I'll have taht song in my head for the evening ;-)
02:03.51znf@project skada
02:03.52Repoznf: [WoW] Skada Damage Meter (Updated Aug 29, 2012 at 07:35 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/skada/
02:04.31znfZarnivoop, question - how the hell do I get rid of the class icons? Or how to make them be "inside" the window, and not outside?
02:04.51znfAnd ofcourse, he has like 1740 idle hours
02:05.45Stanzillaznf: there's an option to turn them off
02:06.04znfwhere? I've look for that for hours
02:06.16Stanzillalet me log in
02:06.17znfoh, hey, that wasn't there
02:06.20znffound it
02:06.23znfbut that wasn't there last time I checked :D
02:06.37Stanzillaman you suck
02:08.09quiescensthat's not a very nice thing to say
02:08.22Repotargetpercent: 03funkydude * r36 / (2 files in 1 directory): re-write to use RegisterUnitEvent
02:08.42Stanzillathat Funkeh` guy again
02:08.53znf@project targetpercent
02:08.54Repoznf: [WoW] TargetPercent (Updated Sep 17, 2012 at 02:08 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/targetpercent/
02:09.05znfanyone happens to play a druid tank and use WA?
02:09.12Stanzillahello
02:09.24znfexport me some druid tonky auras
02:09.33StanzillaI have none
02:09.38valdarini play a druid tank. don't use WA though sorry=)
02:09.41znfdamn you
02:09.44znfI'm too lazy to make my own
02:09.58Stanzillawhat do you ned man, cooldowns?
02:10.17Repolibstatlogic-1-2: 03gathirer * r144 LibStatLogic-1.2/LibStatLogic-1.2.lua: Removed left over debug message I missed
02:10.26znfyeah, but I'm too lazy to make my own
02:10.30MysticalOSsounds like a bug in weak auras
02:10.30mckenziemcNed's here?
02:10.32mckenziemcruns.
02:10.53valdarini've recently started using fortexorcist for tracking CDs
02:11.01valdarinin case you're just interested in a general tip;)
02:11.11MysticalOSshould be a pre made wiki with starter aura's for all classes and specs, hand made by stanzilla ;)
02:11.21Stanzillayeah exactly
02:11.46Stanzillaweakauras has so many bugs atm
02:11.48Stanzilla:(
02:12.23Repocollectinator: 03Ackis 072.0 * 1.1.1-190-g6fe2038 Database/PetDB.lua: [+13 commits] (9 truncated)
02:12.23Repo6fe2038: Add store bought pets.
02:12.24Repo5435b1a: Add Eye of the Legion TCG Pet.
02:12.24Repo1c9bb94: Add TCG pets.
02:12.25Repoa64a1c2: Add Promo pets.
02:12.32Reporating-buster: 03gathirer * r377 RatingBuster.lua: - Removed debug message
02:13.14znfso fix them already
02:13.56znfone more good thing about account wide FoS and achievements - you can farm dungeons on more than 1 char \o/
02:14.24StanzillaI'm waiting for Mikk to fix them
02:14.45znfwhat bugs anyway?
02:15.51znfheh, the only male toon I have is my druid :D
02:16.33Stanzillahttp://www.wowace.com/addons/weakauras/tickets/
02:16.49znfmarks all of them invalid
02:17.17znffor example - http://www.wowace.com/addons/weakauras/tickets/314-extention-send-to-other-player-a-configurationstring/
02:25.01znfStanzilla, lots of tickets there are invalid and crap :P
02:25.02Stanzillathat one really is
02:25.07Stanzillathe other ones are kinda valid
02:25.18znfhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/weakauras/tickets/324-aspect-error-without-lua/ ?
02:25.40znfcan projects stop auto-bug-reporting from the curse client?
02:25.47Stanzillahaha okay that is crap
02:25.50StanzillaFunkeh`: be here for a second please
02:26.22znfI love that "charm woodland creature" spell for druids :D
02:26.33Funkeh`?
02:26.41StanzillaFunkeh`: http://www.wowace.com/addons/weakauras/tickets/329-patch-fix-taint-bug-related-to-target/
02:26.43Stanzillagood/bad?
02:27.24Funkeh`without context it's meaningless
02:27.33znfStanzilla, help here - why so many AoE tanking spells for druids? thrash, swipe, maul?!
02:28.07Stanzillaznf: you use them (apart from swipe) for single target, too
02:28.10Funkeh`I saw it on the forum and quite frankly I have no idea why an aura mod would need to transmit chat links
02:28.11StanzillaFunkeh`: context is in the patch
02:28.18Stanzillayou can see what was replaced with wat :o
02:28.29Funkeh`that's not context :)
02:28.36Funkeh`but anyway off to bed
02:28.37StanzillaFunkeh`: you can send your config via chat
02:28.39Stanzillaoookay
02:28.40znfchat links --> sharing stuff
02:28.41Stanzillagood night
02:28.51StanzillaI'm just going to patch this :E
02:29.30znfwatches Stanzilla break everything
02:30.29Repocollectinator: 03Ackis 072.0 * 1.1.1-191-gcddd45a Database/MountDB.lua: [+1 commit] Update MountDB.lua with all known mounts (except class mounts, fuck those guys.)
02:34.35znfHmmm, tbh, tanking seems more fun now
02:36.00Stanzillabecause of the insane dps
02:36.22MysticalOSour dps are really upset with the tanks
02:36.26MysticalOSright now
02:36.30znfheh
02:36.31MysticalOSultraxion this week
02:36.34MysticalOStop 2 dps
02:36.38MysticalOSwere me and other tank
02:36.40znfour tank was doing ~120k @ Madness
02:36.42znfwas like wtf
02:36.52MysticalOSthe blood dk did about 70k dps, i only did about 55k
02:37.03MysticalOSi missed execute range cause i had to soak
02:37.07MysticalOSi was like "FU bad timing"
02:37.16Stanzillablood dk on balaroc heroic
02:37.17znfyeah, got beat by a blood DK in LFR on DPS, too
02:37.17MysticalOSand to soak, means shield wall
02:37.18Stanzilla130k dps
02:37.18Stanzillahi
02:37.24MysticalOSshield wall and recklessness can't be used at same time
02:37.27znfOnly 130k? :D
02:37.30MysticalOSexecute range, without recklesnsess?
02:37.33MysticalOS10k dps loss!
02:37.52MysticalOSi told em, next week, i'm not soaking.
02:37.58znfStanzilla, have you seen that guy soloing blood lord mandokir? :D
02:38.02znfblood dk
02:38.05Stanzillanah
02:38.10znfhad 900k vengeange
02:38.14znfvengeance
02:38.18MysticalOShow?
02:38.22znfDecapitate
02:38.23Stanzillaznf: get on my server and help me test WA linking
02:38.27MysticalOSbut that's instant death
02:38.31MysticalOSand he resets
02:38.34znfMysticalOS, he can survive it
02:38.40MysticalOS:o
02:38.41znflots of trinkets & abilities stacked
02:38.46znfStanzilla, let me finish this dungeon
02:39.03Stanzillaaye :)
02:39.07MysticalOShmm
02:39.11znfhttp://i.imgur.com/YxL4W.jpg
02:39.21MysticalOSso what, he gets super dps after first decap, then kills before second?
02:39.31Stanzilla16 seconds fight
02:39.57MysticalOSof course it's a DK
02:40.01MysticalOSno other tank is gonna pull that off
02:40.08MysticalOSi don't hav enough crap to stack for that
02:43.10Repocollectinator: 03Torhal 072.0 * 1.1.1-192-g15e31f0 Core.lua: [+1 commit] We don't use LPJ:NumPets() - remove it. Clear focus on the PetJournal search box and set its text to SEARCH before executing a scan.
02:43.20StanzillaMysticalOS: did you fix that taint in buggrabber?
02:43.29MysticalOSnope
02:43.33Stanzillawill you?
02:44.35Reporating-buster: 03gathirer * r378 RatingBuster.lua: - Fix to get base stat values to display again
02:46.41znfStanzilla, what server?
02:46.42MysticalOSbah gulid rosters are still broken
02:46.48Stanzillaznf: zirkel des cenarius
02:47.07znfYou'r on an RP server? o.o
02:47.13Stanzillayes
02:47.19znfAlliance, right?
02:47.23Stanzillayes
02:49.01MysticalOSat login the server is not sending a roster of guildies, at all, but as people come online the roster updates, hmm
02:49.11MysticalOSwhat would be a good way to force a full refresh of online users in roster
02:49.33znfwhy the fuck do I still have MFClip installed
02:50.11znfStanzilla, ok, I'm there
02:50.14znfGibberish is the name
02:50.39Stanzillacan you import that?
02:51.09znfwaitwait a sec
02:51.16znfturned on all the damn addons :-/
02:51.24StanzillaI knew it
02:51.44Stanzillaevery new toon is like WTF IN MY FACE
02:51.54znf:D
02:52.07znfshould I keep WIM on?
02:52.15Stanzillayeah
02:52.23Stanzillanot sure if it works with it, though
02:52.38znfI'll disable it then
02:52.41MysticalOSlooks like it's broken because GetNumGuildMembers() is returning false number of people online, so rest is ust broken
02:52.44znfok, do now
02:52.57znfnope, can't click it
02:53.01znfwait..
02:53.06znffacepalms
02:53.08Stanzillait takes a while to load
02:53.10Stanzillait's huge
02:53.23znfwould help if I would enable WA :>
02:53.25znfdo it again
02:53.28Stanzillamaaan
02:53.36znfyeah, works
02:53.39znfwell, loading...
02:54.26znfstill loading..
02:54.27Stanzillashould be done loading now
02:54.28Stanzillawtf
02:54.29Stanzilla:D
02:55.05quiescensstill loading
02:55.22znfcan you, like, link a smaller one ffs? :P
02:55.38Stanzilladone
02:55.58znfnothing yet
02:56.03znflet me enable bug grabber
02:56.16znfaltough I should see lua errors either way
02:56.36znfalso, why can't I do /wa
02:56.38znf>_<
02:56.54Stanzillathat does not sound very good :D
02:57.32Stanzillayou probably didnt enable ace3 or s
02:57.33Stanzillao
02:57.40Stanzillaor some lib
02:57.46quiescenslol
02:58.22znfLKAJSHDLAS
02:58.55quiescenslkajshdlas to you too
02:58.57quiescenso.o
02:59.04Stanzillaznf best addon tester eu
02:59.26quiescensgives znf a coookie
02:59.27znfyou and your silly german server
02:59.38Stanzillawhat does my server have to do with that? :D
03:00.02znfnew char, crap server :P
03:00.40znfooook, do it now >_<
03:01.23znfslaps Stanzilla
03:01.40znfok, it worked
03:01.47Stanzillanow send me something
03:02.39Stanzillasexy
03:02.41Stanzillaseems to work
03:03.05quiescenswhat did you do
03:04.16Repoweakauras: 03stanzilla * r256 Transmission.lua: let's try Expf's patch for taint free aura linking
03:04.19Stanzilla^that
03:05.28Stanzillaznf: wanna be my battletag friend?
03:05.37znfsure
03:05.46Stanzillastan#2389
03:05.51Repoka_raid-tracker: 03celess * r315 RaidTracker.toc: - update libs
03:05.53Repo- bump
03:06.21Repohellbender-dkp: 03celess * r114 HellbenderDKP.toc: - update libs
03:06.22Repo- bump
03:06.53Stanzillaznf: are you running another instance?
03:07.00znfno
03:07.03Stanzillaok
03:07.15znfI farmed all I had to farm tonight :P
03:07.31Repohellbender-dkp: 03celess 042.4.1 * r115 : - fix wow version
03:07.32Repo- update libs
03:08.06Repoka_raid-tracker: 03celess 042.4.3 * r316 : - fix wow version
03:08.07Repo- update libs
03:09.11znfhttp://i.imgur.com/miW8f.jpg
03:09.14znfworst UI :D
03:09.23Stanzillawtf man
03:09.37znfHonestly - All authors should default their texture to "minimal" when creating a new addon
03:09.44znfall those glossy textures look like crap
03:09.59Stanzillaminimal is not always available
03:10.20znfit should be!
03:10.33znfI feel like it's the only decent texture available :P
03:10.51StanzillaI use HalF
03:11.09nebula169minimalist4lyfe
03:11.20znflol - sea turtle is usable by lvl1s :D
03:11.41Stanzillanebula169: I love you for that macro addon btw
03:11.48Stanzillasuggested it to all my guildies
03:11.52nebula169lol, made my life easier
03:12.06znfwhat addon macro?
03:12.27Stanzilla@project talent-macros
03:12.27RepoStanzilla: Project "talent-macros" was not found.
03:12.27nebula169@project talentmacros
03:12.28Reponebula169: [WoW] TalentMacros (Updated Sep 07, 2012 at 03:11 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/talentmacros/
03:12.30Stanzillaclose
03:13.16znfinteressting
03:13.26znfhttp://i.imgur.com/Zkqvd.jpg
03:13.27znfhehe
03:13.50Stanzillais your SUF problem fixed btw?
03:14.28znfthe mana updates fine
03:14.38znfthe "vehicle" resource doesn't
03:14.44znflike the plants vs. zombies quest
03:15.27Stanzillahokay
03:15.44StanzillaI wonder when the day I can uninstall SUF finally comes
03:15.51znfWhy do you use SuF?
03:15.57Stanzillaboss and arena frames
03:16.18znfPB doesn't have that?
03:16.22Stanzillanope
03:16.30znf:o
03:16.31znfwhy?
03:16.46nebula169i have my own ouf layouts that look like my pb layout for boss and arena frames, lol
03:16.49Stanzillasome guy was afk for a very long time and didn't do it yet
03:17.03Stanzillanebula169: I was too lazy for that
03:17.15nebula169i just stole someone elses and changed the textures
03:17.16nebula169:D
03:17.37Stanzillawell my unitframes look kinda standard but texts are tricky
03:17.40Stanzillaand text colors
03:17.46Stanzillaso I kinda need LuaTexts support
03:17.59nebula169ouf tags work the same way
03:18.00znfwtf
03:18.03StanzillaI know
03:18.04znftb is alliance controlled
03:18.07znfhow did this happen
03:21.41znfI really don't know how you can not have gold in this game
03:21.47Repocollectinator: 03Torhal 072.0 * 1.1.1-193-g36c1b17 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Get mounts in a state where they display in the list without breaking the world.
03:21.53znfdoing dailies = 1000g/day at least
03:22.54valdarini met someone the other day crying about money
03:23.03valdarinnot that i'm rich, but it's realy not that hard
03:23.24znfnot rich either
03:23.27znfonly got around 400k
03:23.33valdarinhaha =)
03:23.36valdarini have 130
03:23.47valdarintoo many alts =)
03:24.22quiescenso.o
03:25.07valdarinare any of you relatively new to addons or all veterans at this point?
03:25.24quiescenswe're very good at pretending
03:25.29znfI'm new, basically
03:25.32znfbut I don't really write addons :P
03:25.40nebula169been doing it for a long time but still learn new stuff all the time
03:25.43znfI just patch things up when I knowhow :P
03:25.45valdarinI'm finding it hard to find current/accurate documentation
03:26.16valdarinmakes me think that people at this point just "know how" ;-)
03:26.23nebula169right its is kind of an awkward time because wowprogramming isn't fully updated for 5.0 stuff yet
03:26.27znfdocu-what? :P
03:26.28nebula169right now*
03:26.37valdarinhaha @znf. exactly
03:27.01valdarini am a big proponent of RTFM, but in this case it's been hard to find the right info
03:27.03znfStanzilla, I just realized
03:27.09znfRIP Mind Soothe :(
03:27.35quiescensis that the thingy for reducing aggro distance
03:27.37valdarindo you play a guardian main?
03:27.39znfyeah
03:27.43znfmind thingie
03:28.15quiescenswhy is it RIP?
03:28.19znfit's gone
03:28.25quiescens):
03:28.28valdarinhow often did you realy use it?
03:28.35znfI used it at the start of cata
03:28.40znfwhen heroics were actually hard :)
03:28.52valdarinhaha, that was so long ago i can't remember =)
03:29.08quiescensbut it was a fun little thing to play with
03:29.15valdarinheroics are hard again, though. go queue for regular (not HOT) heroics and watch all the people do 4k DPS
03:29.18quiescensso why remove it if it wasn't adversely affecting anything
03:29.41znfprobably because it saw so little use
03:30.04valdarinare you a raider znf?
03:30.32znfyeah
03:30.49quiescensbut if it was already working and it didn't break anything, removing it is more woek!
03:31.34znfalso, could have probably had some side effects in Challenge Modes in MoP :P
03:31.36valdarinI like to hear from guardian druids who are being successful in endgame =)
03:31.55znfto the point having a priest would have been required
03:32.08znfSo hard to find a druid tank these days...
03:32.14znfI want one in our guild
03:32.22quiescensbairs
03:32.34znfbears are fun
03:32.37znfI always liked bears
03:32.52valdarinin some ways I feel like we are once again a bit ... different?
03:32.58valdarinas the only tank without an absorb
03:33.05valdarinthere will be fights where that hurts
03:33.13valdarinbut the self healing is pretty ridiculous
03:34.36valdarinI've been raiding as a bear since vanilla. It's been a long road ;-)
03:35.03quiescenswe had a bair or two in vanilla too
03:35.13Torhaldips quiescens in Nair.
03:35.18quiescensdies.
03:35.53znflet's see
03:36.01valdarinthat's cool. seemed pretty uncommon.
03:36.02znfTB dailies done
03:36.26znfI don't need Molten Front anymore
03:36.28valdarinwe only had 2 on my realm =)
03:36.29quiescenswe had lots of durids at one point in vanilla
03:36.52valdarinyea our guild had a million, just limited number of bears
03:37.36Shefkihttp://imgur.com/ZbQRJ
03:38.08quiescenso.o
03:38.24mckenziemcdrops a bear on quiescens.
03:38.33durcynShefki: it's not network, there's an exploit being circulated
03:38.44ShefkiEhh?
03:39.04quiescenswhere is that from? are you graphing your ping o.o
03:39.25ShefkiYes.
03:39.51durcynoh, i assumed you linked that to show that the server was bouncing
03:39.52Shefki100 packet sample every 5 minutes.
03:40.00znflol ui: http://i.imgur.com/GDs3T.jpg
03:40.30ShefkiNahh was just tweaking my monitoring server so I decided to share.
03:40.53durcynwell, there's an exploit going around that uses something to do with trial accounts to crash servers, so.
03:41.06durcynsomeone's been bouncing mine for the past half hour
03:41.19ShefkiInteresting.
03:41.43mckenziemco.o
03:41.48ShefkiNahh the missing week on that graph was because I was too lazy to restore the last weeks worth of data when I rebuilt the machine today.
03:42.44quiescenswhat are you using to collect teh data?
03:43.15ShefkiSomething custom I wrote.
03:43.30znfisn't that cacti?
03:43.35znffor the graphing
03:44.22ShefkiYes cacti is doing the graphing.
03:44.36ShefkiBut I had to write my own tool to gather the data.
03:44.37valdarinyea that looks an awful lot like what I stare at all day at work :o
03:44.58znfShefki, why not just Advanced Ping?
03:45.05Shefkiznf: Didn't work.
03:45.08znfweird
03:45.23ShefkiWoW servers have very strict firewalls in front of them.
03:45.41znfDoes anyone know how to queue for TB?
03:45.51quiescenso.o
03:45.57znfI mean, a /script to queue
03:46.04znfbecause my UI seems to refuse to let me do that
03:46.07quiescenswhy do i keep thinking thunder bluff
03:46.08ShefkiThey don't respond to ICMP past the data center border.
03:46.33znfShefki, but advanced ping can do tcp/udp pings, too
03:46.37ShefkiOr I should say what appears to be the border between AT&T's network and Blizzard's network.
03:46.57Shefkiznf: It's been years but at the time it wouldn't work.
03:47.20ShefkiThey ignore all sorts of traffic, I think at one point I was using advanced ping straight up and they broke it.
03:47.47durcynznf: BattlefieldMgrQueueRequest() iirc, the index is either 2 or 7, not sure
03:48.24MysticalOSi recall pinging on the wow port used to get through, although i think now i'm just getting a pingback from opendns
03:48.30znf21
03:49.10ShefkiWhat I'm doing should be almost indistinguishable from an actual WoW client.
03:49.39znfI hate those argent tournament dailies so much that I just do the mounted combat wihtout mounting
03:49.58quiescensexcept that it does it x times a minute?
03:50.10ShefkiI did say almost...
03:50.18quiescens):
03:50.40ShefkiHowever, I doubt what I'm doing would show up as anything but noise.
03:51.05quiescensznf: can you still pull someone else's enemy out of the thingy area?
03:51.16znfdunno
03:51.58ShefkiI should probably figure out the ipv6 addresses for the realms I care about now.
03:52.09ShefkiWould be interesting to see if ipv6 is better.
03:52.40durcyni can't imagine the routing would be dratstically different
03:52.51durcynor drastically
03:52.52znfShefki, I get ~2ms less on IPv6
03:52.54ShefkiSince I am doing 6 in 4, yes it would.
03:53.02znfand I don't even have native IPv6
03:53.06quiescens2ms does not sound statistically significant
03:53.22znfprobably having native would be faster
03:53.40Shefkiznf: Yeah I'd expect slightly better connectivity, HE seems to have better connectivity than my ISP.
03:53.59ShefkiBut I'm data driven. :)
03:54.10znfAlso using HE :P
03:55.14znfbut it's not always stable
03:55.22znfSo I just switched back to ipv4
03:55.30mckenziemcstatistically stabs quiscens.
03:58.23ShefkiBahh my traffic generator doesn't support ipv6.
03:58.29ShefkiToo much effort to find something else.
03:58.34quiescenswoek woek
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04:02.33valdarinwell guys thanks for the info. I will be back with more questions soon I'm sure ;-)
04:02.39valdarinhave a good evening
04:12.30Repoarchy: 03Torhal 041.8.31a * 10c249c /: [new tag]
04:18.15TorhalFoof
04:18.33quiescensgives torhal a cookie
04:18.36Repoxloot-group: 03Xuerian 07master * z12-beta / (3 files in 1 directory): [+5 commits] (1 truncated)
04:18.36Repod73cafa: Add alert popup skinning/appearance options
04:18.37Repo2289ddf: Hide non-functional show_decided option
04:18.37Repod3fab6a: Add missing localization
04:18.38Repobfa9eed: Fix roll status text coloring
04:18.45Repoxloot-group: 03Xuerian 04z12-beta * 1a2e889 /: [new tag] Fixes, Alert popup skinning
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04:33.51Repoready-check-announcer: 03corg * r46 / (2 files in 1 directory): ReadyCheckAnnouncer:
04:33.52Repo- Update for 5.0 API changes
04:38.23SegankuIt sounds like people found a way to crash wow servers and they've been playing:  www.ownedcore.com/forums/world-of-warcraft/world-of-warcraft-bots-programs/377075-crash-tool-kick-all-players-your-server.html
04:40.47quiescensprobably been done before
04:41.45ShefkiAbsolutely been done before.
04:47.12Repoxloot-group: 03Xuerian 07master * z13-beta / (3 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
04:47.13Repo8094a02: Add alerts anchor/reanchoring
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04:47.16Repoxloot-group: 03Xuerian 04z13-beta * 8d45f0e /: [new tag] Alert/popup reanchoring
04:48.57Repocollectinator: 03Torhal 072.0 * 1.1.1-194-g473fdd8 Core.lua: [+1 commit] Add names to ALL mounts, not just those known. Added debug dump to show mounts known which aren't in the DB
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05:06.53sbmorgen!
05:08.03quiescenso.o
05:08.33sbyes quiescens, you too!
05:08.35sbgoto sleep
05:09.11quiescens):
05:10.45sbznf: tell me about your GC tweet - legendaries in lfr?? i don't get it
05:11.08znfsb, you can get the items required for legendary thingie in LFR, too
05:11.14znfalso, why are you stalking me on twitter?
05:12.18sbbecause i can!?
05:12.21sberrrr what??
05:12.41quiescensreported
05:12.48nebula169the quest for the gem
05:12.52nebula169you can get the items in lfr
05:13.41End_that part has been made pretty clear, although I think znf was wondering if you could get them both in normal and lfr in the same week?
05:13.48znfyes
05:13.57nebula169don't see why not!
05:13.58sbgems as in socket-gems? i dont care then
05:14.09nebula169the sha-touched gems, yea
05:14.25sbas long as you have to run (insert large number here) normal/heroic thingies to get the legendary...
05:15.20sband i guess sha tocuhed gems only fit in sha tocuhed sockets? :D
05:15.26sbwhich are legendary only?
05:15.34nebula169nah, they just drop off sha of fear
05:16.02sbok, fair enough..
05:16.16sbbut the actual question: you can't get legendary weapions from lfr, right? :D
05:16.42nebula169there are lfr version of them, yes
05:16.51nebula169there's no actually legendary yet
05:16.58sboh
05:17.11End_this legendary stuff is going to be over several patches
05:17.16sbi see
05:17.17End_the gems are just part one of ...four?
05:17.23znfthey drop from multiple bosses
05:17.28znfhttp://mop.wowhead.com/items?filter=cr=104;crs=0;crv=Sha-touched
05:17.28sbseems to be fine then
05:17.33sbyup, got that
05:17.44sbas long as you cant' get them in LFR actually... :|
05:17.48End_I think they are going for increased reliance on solo work instead of guild work
05:17.48znfsb, and yes you will
05:17.52znfyou will be able to get it rom LFR
05:17.53sbi dont want to see 90% of all ppl running around with legendary weapons
05:17.58sbmeh
05:18.01znfYou probably won't
05:18.09sb*head -> desk*
05:18.10sbwhy?
05:18.17sblook at rogue daggers
05:18.33znfBecause it will take them to play troughout all the patches
05:18.37znfAnd it will be slow as fuck in LFR
05:18.46End_plus we don't know how hard the solo stuff will be
05:18.50sbi see
05:19.50sbEnd_: oh - priest/hunter-whatever classic quest thingy again? :D (as in "you actually have to know how to play your class") that'd be great :D
05:20.16End_possibly dunno
05:20.20znfI doubt it
05:20.35znfthey said it takes too much effort to do class quests
05:20.43sbbut if you need those gems to socket your HoF/ToES weapons its not that bad if you can get them in lfr
05:21.32znfHoF?
05:21.45sbheart of ffear
05:21.46znfffs, I don't know these acronyms yet!
05:22.08End_I doubt they'd devise completely different quests for each class, but there might be a solo fight (or more) that work differently for each class
05:22.16quiescensi remember helping people with the hunter thingy
05:22.30sbso you died and they could do the quest, right?
05:22.38quiescensmostly keeping other mobs away
05:22.44quiescensand the ebil alliance
05:23.01sbEnd_: we will see then... ;)
05:23.06End_yes we will
05:23.19sbznf: stalking is good!
05:23.32znf...stalker
05:23.53sbi can't read most of your stuff anyway...
05:23.57End_and thinking of the recent firelands staff, the the solo boss after the first? part was interesting, but the difficulty varied wildly by class
05:24.16sbEnd_: nexus?
05:24.18End_yeah
05:24.19quiescensis it in code
05:24.19sbthat part was fun :D
05:24.22End_yeah
05:24.26sbalso rogue quest line
05:24.29znfit was fun pre-nerf
05:24.30End_although I didn't enjoy fighting my pet ai :(
05:24.32znfI did it after.. :(
05:24.37znfand it was boring
05:24.40sbi almost threw my keyboard out of the window
05:24.50sb"wtf, detected again!=!011..."
05:25.06znfthe event pre-boss was more annoying
05:25.12znfthan the actual mini-boss in there
05:25.14quiescensdo rogues still have that funny thingy to get their poisons
05:25.19znfquiescens, no
05:25.27znfnobody told me that I have to get frozen and stuff
05:25.31znfso I was running ahead :D
05:26.10quiescensdo druids still have the special quests for some of their forms?
05:26.18End_pretty sure not
05:26.35znfquiescens, no
05:27.04Ackisnevcairiel: can you regenerate lib-babble-factions please? I just added the MoP factions/new faction levels to it
05:27.12quiescens):
05:32.41sbmeeh, i'm tired, 5 more days at work :|
05:35.44quiescensgo sleep
05:36.26sbcan't, work :)
05:37.04quiescens):
05:38.40znfserver restart in 15...
05:39.12sbfix for crash/exploit/whatever?
05:39.41znfprobably
05:40.29znfSo, I guess I will go for legendary staff again in MoP
05:40.57sbwell, everybody will, right? :D
05:41.06znfthere's a spellpower mace
05:41.08sbalso its possible to get it for every member in your raidgroup
05:41.10znfand a spellpower sword
05:41.16sbcan't use swords!
05:41.52znfthe mace is crit/spirit
05:41.54quiescensthere should be a legendary bag
05:42.01znfthe staff is haste/crit
05:42.12sbcrit :(
05:42.22znfcrit > mastery in MoP...
05:42.26sboh, right
05:42.29sbforgot about that
05:42.35znfI don't really like having to stack crit tbh
05:42.38sbyep, staff then - mace is useless without proper OH
05:42.52sbits stacking haste till 8085 *shrug* :D
05:43.02sbor 7xxx-whatever as goblin
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05:44.18znfthen again
05:44.22znfour mastery is crap
05:44.37znfI would have prefered a straight increase on our dots
05:45.40znfdamn it
05:45.44znfnpcscan scares the shit out of me
05:45.49sb?
05:46.04znfflying in northrend
05:46.08znfrandom rare popped up
05:48.06znfthis staff actually has a pretty model
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05:51.58znfsb, one thing
05:52.05znfhttp://mop.wowhead.com/item=90513 vs. sha-touched weapon? :D
05:52.28sbgiev sha touched url :p
05:53.03znfhttp://mop.wowhead.com/item=87170
05:54.51sbewww
05:55.13sbsha socket is +500 primary?
05:55.18znfyes
05:56.09znfaaand, ofcourse
05:56.18znfthe 489 cloak with haste on it requires rep & vps
05:56.20sbi suppose you wont have 800 int on your offhand?
05:56.37sbso staff is better :p
05:56.41nevcairielAckis: i'll do a full run on the babbles when i get home
05:56.42sbmuch better
05:57.07znfsb, 683 int on offhand
05:57.12sbsee :D
05:57.16znf+ enchant
05:57.42sbstaff has 800 more int and tons of better secondary stats (+500)
05:58.10sbalso, more dps on the staff!?!?!?
05:58.10znfoh, the hc offhand has 769 int
05:59.16znfwoah
05:59.20znfso many neck pieces with intellect
05:59.21znfwtf man
06:00.20sbget the spi+crit one
06:00.25nevcairielconsidering such pieces you share with every damn caster, more is more better?
06:00.44sbyep
06:00.50sblook at DS...
06:01.00sbnot a single (heroic) caster neck
06:01.36sbznf: 7849.1141+1270.1539 vs. 9022.4805
06:01.53sb(dagger+off vs. staff)
06:01.56znfofc there's a heroic caster neck :P
06:01.58nevcairiellooks pretty balanced
06:01.59znfMorchok drops one :D
06:02.33Reporating-buster: 03gathirer * r379 / (9 files in 2 directories):
06:02.33Repo- Converted many of the stat names to reference Blizzard globals to remove need to create localizations for them.  It will now be done automatically.
06:03.36sbthose numbers are with sha touched gem, its 8522.4805 without gem
06:03.53sbso dagger+oh wins ;)
06:14.50znftold'ya
06:14.56znfdid you count enchants?
06:15.07sbi dind't count anything :p
06:15.09sbBiS lists
06:15.43sbbut offhand enchant could be missing
06:15.51sbmainhand doesnt matter
06:15.54znfthere's bis lists already? :-|
06:16.04sbyup
06:16.08sbhttp://warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com/?p=162
06:18.00znfdear $deity, again BIS head is healing? :-|
06:18.21sbthere are also pre-raid and pre-HoF BiS lists :D
06:18.29sbyup :(
06:18.45sbcrit/mastery on dps head
06:19.24sbspirit value seems to be very high.. mhhh
06:19.30sbspi/hit that is
06:19.35znfbecause we need shitloads :-/
06:20.15znflol
06:20.16sbwell, int+spi gem is > int gem :o
06:20.28znfmeta gem with spirit o.o
06:20.57znfengineering head is lowish
06:21.03znfwith spirit and hit gems...
06:21.05znfwtf
06:21.57znfI think this time they made the secondary stat gems too good..
06:22.17sbyup, thats why jewelcrafting is useless now :D
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06:22.40sbbecause JC secondary gems are only +50%, normal secondary gems are +100% stats
06:22.42znfaren't there jc-only secondary gems?
06:22.44znffail
06:23.33sb160/320 (normal) vs. 320/480 (jc)
06:23.45znfI'm curious if the list from Mr. robot is the same
06:24.12znflol - http://mop.wowhead.com/item=86389
06:24.16znfbetter than heroic tier pants
06:25.12sbasus, gief tft already
06:25.35znfwoah @ Darkmoon card :o
06:25.54sbyep
06:26.40znfha! the engineering trinket has 3 cogwheels
06:26.41znfdamn fine
06:26.55sbwell, just like cata, BiS for first content patch (i replaced it with ragnaros trinket)
06:27.08znfyeah, same
06:27.12znfalso, the engineering one is quite high
06:27.26znfand shitloads of hit
06:27.33znf600 hit, 600 spirit and 600 haste
06:27.42znfwait, isn't there a cogwheel with expertise? :-?
06:28.52jnwhitehnebula169: what isn't updated?
06:28.55jnwhitehother than the artwork
06:29.38nebula169sorry, what addon?
06:30.41jnwhitehyou were saying wowprogramming isn't fully updated for 5.0
06:30.47jnwhitehwhat parts? =)
06:30.54jnwhitehdid I miss something?
06:31.22nebula169oh, just function docs, i remember looking through quest api stuff and it was still wrong
06:31.34jnwhitehyes, no one's updated it =)
06:31.39nebula169yea, i know :p
06:31.40jnwhitehanyone can feel free to do it
06:31.57jnwhitehI no longer have the luxury of being paid to update it, and my life has had to take priority =)
06:32.09jnwhitehbut the list of functions/events/cvars should all be accurate
06:32.28stencilWhat are my options in addon code for getting the texture, or spell id, of a spell if the user has only specified it by name and its not in their spellbook?  I suppose I could try to spin through all the spellids til I get match trying to get a match, but I'm not thrilled with that idea ...
06:32.33nebula169yar
06:33.16jnwhitehstencil: its somewhat customary to build a mapping from names to ids at some point after login
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06:36.47jnwhitehor you could do that upon the first query, i suppose
06:36.52jnwhitehthat way you only pay the cost once.
06:37.01stencilyeah.  eventually the spellid should cross my path and my plan was to cache the name=texture pair for future sessions.
06:37.35stencilso, the only time I don't have an icon to show is from when they specify that they want to track that spell and I actually see it as buff/debuff
06:38.19znfsb, the engineering trinket can be used by anyone! :o
06:38.47stencilI suppose the first time I don't find one in the cache I can build the map then ... I'm a touch worried about duplicate names (boss and mob abilities) but when I see the spell in action I guess I can always update/replace the cached value
06:39.28stencildoes blizz have a defined variable name for max spell id that I can use for the loop?
06:39.31Repocollectinator: 03Torhal 072.0 * 1.1.1-196-g8ea808b / (7 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
06:39.31Repo8ea808b: Long live private.collectable_list!
06:39.31Repoe1c1d65: List entries now hold the collectable itself, rather than its ID; simplifies the code a bit and also makes pets and mounts co-exist peacefully (no ID clashes). Killed off private.collectable_list for the same reason.
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06:42.01stencilif not, I'll just have to check wowhead every so often to get an idea of the max range
06:42.57znfWTF is this bullshit
06:43.03Torhalznf: Karma
06:43.04Torhal:D
06:43.10znfworld bosses drop better items than Mogu'shan Vaults
06:43.12znfo.o
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06:43.29Torhalbluspacecow: You're extremely silly.
06:51.48quiescensgives blu a cookie
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06:57.32Repomastershapeshifter (experimental): 03cielazure * r14 beta1/: beta1
06:58.52Repomastershapeshifter (experimental): 03cielazure * r15 beta1/: no use
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07:00.54sbznf: guess you need 25m for worldbosses?
07:01.04znfsb, dunno
07:01.13znfthe loot is via the LFR system
07:01.19znfso you could just invite everyone in the zone
07:01.23sbi see
07:01.27sbgood thing actually
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07:04.26sbznf: bop i guess?
07:04.47Repomastershapeshifter (experimental): 03cielazure * r18 beta1/: no use
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08:17.20asmodaiquiescens: go to bed
08:17.34bluspacecowasmodai: go to bath
08:30.22Repotradeskill-info: 03ethancentaurai * r436 / (2 files in 1 directory):
08:30.23RepoApply a patch from CMTitan, fixing a few incorrect data flags.
08:31.08Repotradeskill-info: 03ethancentaurai * r437 : Ignore the Libs directory.
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09:12.40asmodaibluspacecow: but I'm at work :(
09:12.53bluspacecowlol
09:13.00bluspacecowguess you can't get naked there then
09:13.08bluspacecowor you could but then you would be soon fired.
09:13.12quiescenswoek woek
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10:40.06asmodaiMmm
10:40.12asmodaiI need to check my logs when I get home
10:40.30asmodaibut seems more people on the fora complaining that Outlands/Northrend are being bugged
10:40.50asmodaiSeems the game continuously marks their MPQs' assets are corrupt due to mismatching MD5 hashes
10:41.02asmodaiand thus it redownloads and redownloads and redownloads.
10:41.12asmodaiThat would definitely explain the slow behaviour I saw. Mmm
10:42.52quiescensfun
10:43.10asmodaiNot really
10:44.25quiescens):
10:44.46quiescenspasses asmodai a cookie
10:46.22asmodaihttp://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/5208114145?page=5
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12:49.29RepoSkinItem was not called when opening bags unless reapplying skin from options
12:49.29RepoCheck currentSkin validity
13:02.12Dridztanyone on the EU/US beta? could use someone (preferably with an autoaccept group addon so you can afk)
13:02.28Dridztto test some GROUP_ROSTER_UPDATE code without griefing LFR :P
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13:28.41RepoApply another patch from viruscamp, updating some Engineering and Cooking recipes.
13:31.16StanzillaGnarfoz nevcairiel sb Megalon http://de.webfail.at/image/rutsche-fuer-frauen-gesperrt-fail-bild.html
13:31.16Stanzilla:D
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13:36.44sbStanzilla: got that already :D
13:37.02Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude * r9139 DragonSoul/Locales/itIT.lua: itIT update
13:37.45sbfuck, this is awesome
13:38.25Funkeh`what is this
13:38.29Funkeh`I can't translate images
13:38.33Funkeh`:(
13:38.54StanzillaFunkeh`: some water slide is closed for women because of extreme pressure on the private parts
13:38.59Chosi90% of women hurt themselves "down there"
13:39.09Chosithat's why they're fucking banned from the slide
13:39.09Chosi:>
13:39.22sbhttp://www.kickstarter.com/projects/limemouse/lifx-the-light-bulb-reinvented <-- shutupandtakemymoney :/
13:39.28Funkeh`wow :s
13:39.44Funkeh`didn't we already reinvent it with LEDs
13:40.08sbits LED actually
13:40.14sbWITH WIFI
13:40.16Stanzillahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea3RAkGqYC8 < video of the week
13:40.30Funkeh`http://www.amazon.co.uk/Auraglow-Remote-Controlled-Colour-Changing/dp/B003TXM53K/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1347889215&sr=8-6
13:40.46Funkeh`I'd rather have a non wifi/remote bulb personally
13:40.48MegalonFunkeh`, stop it with your already on the market products
13:40.51KalrothFunkeh`: this is wifi led, how dare you attack the patent system of the united states of america *eagly flies by* *wipes tear of chin with flag in background*
13:41.05Funkeh`:(
13:41.15sbno wifi and wtf is this socket? :p
13:41.16Megalonthis bulb literally transports light by wifi
13:41.26Megalonall you have to do is setup a room with 20 of those bulbs
13:41.34Megalonand a wifi adapter in each room of your home
13:41.47Funkeh`call me old fashioned I guess...
13:41.49MegalonLIGHT, LIGHT EVERYWHERE FUNKEH'
13:42.19Funkeh`felt the same when they tried to do the whole wifi connected washing machines and shit
13:42.52StanzillaSTOP TALKING AND WATCH THE VIDEO I LINKED
13:43.00Funkeh`ill just set an alarm on my phone for when it finishes, I don't need the hastle of xya exploit making exploiters remotely light my house on fire
13:43.07Funkeh`ok
13:43.33Kalrothi want a wifi router with a wifi connection, so i can connect to it through wifi
13:44.29Funkeh`Stanzilla, I approve
13:44.36Stanzillaso god
13:44.37Stanzilla*o
13:44.41Chosithat's not how you hula!
13:45.09Chosiat least it's porter robinson, not crapp other dubstep
13:45.12Chosi*crappy
13:45.51Funkeh`I wonder what kind of camera they used for that
13:46.45Chosi"small tits reunion ...? :D"
13:46.47Chosirofl
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13:47.28sboh, boobievideo?
13:47.33sb*bookmark*
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13:50.00Megalonhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9upTLWRZTfw sb ;(
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13:54.39sbMegalon: i'm at work
13:55.52Funkeh`Elkano, is EBB still removing the tracking button? http://www.wowace.com/addons/sexymap/tickets/198-problems-in-combination-with-elk-buff-bars/
13:56.23StanzillaFunkeh`: it says at the start of the video..
13:56.35Megalon:(
13:56.51Funkeh`Does it? I was distracted...
13:56.56ElkanoFunkeh`, yeah, since it's providing a tracking bar
13:57.13Elkanobut that's an option players can disable
13:57.23Funkeh`Elkano, then make it off by default please
13:57.29Funkeh`it's a bad assumption to make imo
13:58.07Elkanono, its enabled by default like buffs are hidden by default since by default EBB shows the bar
13:58.33Funkeh`eh?
13:58.42Funkeh`buffs are hidden by default?
13:58.57ElkanoBlizzard's yeah
13:59.06Funkeh`that's completely different though
13:59.14Elkanono
13:59.18Funkeh`"elk BUFF bars"
13:59.23Funkeh`not elk TRACKING bars
13:59.27Stanzillaebb replaces everything with a bar, everything that is not a bar, gets hidden :D
14:00.19Funkeh`you're replacing the buff frame with a different version, people expect that
14:00.34Funkeh`what that ticket clearly indicates is that people are NOT expecting their tracking icons to suddenly be removed
14:02.29Elkanono, it indicates ONE person is not expecting it
14:02.49Funkeh`and that's how you justify a bad default?
14:03.13Elkanoif one person doesn't expect a cup to become hot if hot coffee is filled in, we don't lable the cup over here... (I know its different in the US)
14:03.18Funkeh`if you're going to add features that aren't directly related to your addon, turn them off by default
14:03.48Elkanoit's not like it has been that way for years...
14:04.19Funkeh`it's been bad for years, so let's not fix it?
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14:24.52Fiskerhey Funkeh`
14:27.42Funkeh`Fisker, :O
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15:58.25Funkeh`AckisWork, you shouldn't have bothered with that post about global _
15:58.38Funkeh`the amount of people going around setting local _ for no reason is ridiculous
16:00.42Funkeh`local _, value; for _, value in pairs(AtlasSortIgnore) do .... :D
16:02.07ZaB|SHC|Stanzilla: ping?
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16:02.30StanzillaZaB|SHC|: pong
16:03.02ZaB|SHC|regarding weakauras. is it possible to have some kind of foo and (bar or baz) condition?
16:03.24Stanzillathere is a simple "and" and "or" switch for triggers
16:03.30Stanzillaif you want more, you need to use a custom trigger
16:03.48Stanzillano and or chaining, yet
16:04.47ZaB|SHC|what i want to have: if move is ready and (debuff is missing or debuff is running less than 1.5s) then show. is there another way of implementing this?
16:05.14Stanzillanah, only with custom stuff :<
16:05.32Stanzillaor hrm
16:05.52ZaB|SHC|i already have some custom stuff for another widget but this already kills performance (at least it looks like, have to test it outside sw)
16:05.55Stanzillacan you give me a real example with spells?
16:06.42ZaB|SHC|skill is Collosal Smash and its debuff.
16:07.43Stanzillaso you want it to show only when the debuff is not on the mob or under 1.5s and it is ready
16:07.46StanzillaI'll try
16:08.50EthanCentaurai~seen Kemayo
16:08.52purlkemayo is currently on #wowuidev (12h 9m 51s) #wowace (12h 9m 51s) #curseforge (12h 9m 51s), last said: 'Stanzilla: Could you install tekDebug and tell me what message it shows for BankStack when there's a stall?'.
16:10.15ZaB|SHC|Stanzilla: having the correct sytnax for a custom trigger would also help.
16:11.17StanzillaZaB|SHC|: no idea about the syntax and it doesn't work with the standard triggers, so you are out of luck
16:11.51Stanzillayou could make 2 auras though
16:12.07Stanzilla1 with is cooldown ready + duration under 1.5s and 1 with is cooldown ready and debuff missing
16:13.08ZaB|SHC|okay, i'll try something. thanks for the hint with custom triggers
16:16.04Stanzillafury dps is so insane right now
16:16.31Stanzillastacking crit like a g6
16:16.41asmodailike a g6
16:16.58asmodaihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4s6H4ku6ZY
16:17.00asmodaiBOOM
16:17.14Stanzillayes that
16:21.05asmodaiStanzilla: followed by http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOAMfUJ3tsc&hd=1 of course ;)
16:25.25Stanzillaproxtube is letting me down
16:25.32asmodaiYep, the wow client must be broken
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16:25.42asmodaigot a 3 MB repair-on-demand.log
16:25.51asmodaiOnly started on the 13th
16:27.31asmodaiMmm, I wonder what the 32 bit client does
16:27.40Stanzillalooks like proxtube can now only proxy one video at a time
16:34.31asmodaiTorhal: spotted this in FrameXML.log:
16:34.33asmodai9/17 18:28:14.418  ++ Loading file Interface\AddOns\WoWDBProfiler\libs.xml
16:34.35asmodai9/17 18:28:14.418  Error loading Interface\AddOns\WoWDBProfiler\Libs\CallbackHandler-1.0\CallbackHandler-1.0\CallbackHandler-1.0.lua
16:35.58Reposhadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 04v3.5.8 * 359d009 /: [new tag] Tagging as release 3.5.8
16:43.38Repobrez: 03funkydude * r85 bRez.lua: tweak
16:48.59Repotradeskill-info: 03ethancentaurai * r440 / (2 files in 1 directory): Load libraries from the .toc
16:49.35StanzillaFunkeh`: wtb BasicClassPoints
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16:51.55ZaB|SHC|Stanzilla: got it working with custom triggers
16:52.06StanzillaZaB|SHC|: wanna share?
16:52.38ZaB|SHC|just export it? (using german locale as spellids don't work [or i messed them up])
16:54.00Stanzillajust export to string or lua table, doesn't matter
16:54.34ZaB|SHC|d4ZNfaqyaVue1UaQETsuSpLQ0mvQQMRsvz2u1Oak3ueP(es6BkrLZdLANkL2lQDJy)KFQu8xr53u50QyOkrvdwA4IWbHkofqCmK4ZIQfcKwQsLfdfTCk9qOKNc5XQQNtXevP0ufPjRktxXfHk5QqbptjkDDqTrLQ47Qu1MvjBhk0hvPYSaX0uPO5jIyKIi5RqLA0G0LfojuLBbv11uICpLWkvsdtLc3gPMPWPmIMrpg94ug5DapoLrWMi77bmggugzD(GtzenSFoCkp8WiytKzseFgug99agdNYiZHK7dgHBC2TdVn7yenSFoCkJWno72H3MDmO8WdJGnr23rJjWWGYitI4ZPmYCi5(G3sHr0W(5WP8wkmO8WdpmYg5hhjf7ebJoFhHrWKXEYZdlNYOpSzC0m6cM8NJJagiAvvvv17(aE18)t
16:54.40ZaB|SHC|DHkfWxsfF8vHcyFF3lEQxoR6anuNdDOIzCi5Avvvv17(aE1miQp1fQ3fdkr49y5C(N7Ecyut25DgdGpmQOpu6yMWsOcIwvvvv1QQQQ65s9PU3fQ5)N6aniQ2yGTe1XchQb5PvvvvvV7d4vjquZGOMbrndIAge1miQJ6cvmqoZTbMWxxGrDaS5XqfIk1KDENXa4dJk6dLoMjSeQGOvvvv1ZLkrfG8uhv8vVlM0dDagiQ7vLc4lPoqdIQngylrDSWHAqEAvvvvvRQQQQ2yGTe1laVj0AqE8WOXEYZdlNYOb7ebJ(WMXrZOpSzC0zd2jcgzgGb2WicaDy4uElfgLSZ7mgaFyurFO0XmHLWdJC3t2q8yZGYiyYzy0ayZJHr2GEtIWcmolJsYcgfymiJHr4GvkEB2cko7YWWYFloP4kdRnB2)TBW9w
16:54.42Stanzillawaa
16:54.45Stanzillapastebin bro
16:54.46ZaB|SHC|gDiymSMGbLrFOXFzyeCIhWemYg0mIc4lXOpSzC0m6cM8NJJagiAvvvv17(aE18)tDHkfWxsfF8vHcyFF3lEQxoR6anuNdDOIzCi5Avvvv17(aE1miQp1fQ3fdkr49y5C(N7Ecyut25DgdGpmQOpu6yMWsOcIwvvvv1QQQQ65s9PMKfQ5)N6aniAvvvvvvvv17(aEvce1miQzquZGOMbrndI6OUqfdKZCBGj81fyuhaBEmuHOsnzN3zma(WOI(qPJzclHkiAvvvvvvvv9CPsCJkrDGgevBmWwI6yHd1G80QQQQQQQQ65sDuXx9Uysp0byGOMKfQuaFj1bAquTXaBjQJfoudYtRQQQQb5PvvvvvBmWwI6fG3eAnipg9cmHVUsXorWOKcNDj9EWW(5HraV3zoocGpBSN88WA4uEy05XiSqmIatNA
16:54.52ZaB|SHC|p55H1WBPWO3XKWdGnEFhHr4Tnfx72doyHR9HhwB2I2haMh)zWo7EaR94SzFN3zmWgdnGbkpmYWikGFtWxoWxwgHrElLBEJBWdZa
16:54.55ZaB|SHC|wth!
16:54.56nevcairielhow long is that going to be? do i kick him now or wait? :P
16:54.56MysticalOS:o
16:54.57ZaB|SHC|i'll paste it somewhere else
16:55.06Stanzillahaha
16:55.25Stanzillalua table would have been longer :D
16:56.28ZaB|SHC|http://pastebin.com/K8cXMtNx
16:57.18Stanzillalooks fine
16:57.19ZaB|SHC|http://pastebin.com/c8zwW497 as lua-table
16:57.24Stanzillaalso curse you for using the german client
16:57.49ZaB|SHC|:%s/Kolossale Schmettern/$correctSpellId/g done
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16:58.26ZaB|SHC|not really ... :%s/'Kolossales Schmettern'/$correctSpellId/g might be better
16:58.29StanzillaI know, that's not my problem
16:58.34Stanzillapeople using the german client are :D
16:59.05ZaB|SHC|i'll substitute and try if it still works. otherwise you're in charge for finding the right spellids :P
16:59.34Repotradeskill-info: 03ethancentaurai * r441 TradeskillInfo.toc: Fix .toc metadata.
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17:03.56ZaB|SHC|debuff spell ids seems to be different
17:06.20Reposexymap: 03funkydude 07master * v2.2-9-g691d3d2 / (4 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
17:06.20Repo691d3d2: Buttons: Remove the Atlas-specific button handling code as the author has thankfully moved to using LibDBIcon instead of using a button on a frame on the map.
17:06.20Repo8b7436c: Clock: Handle width setting a different way in an attempt to fix the clock being cut out when using certain fonts.
17:14.45Repotradeskill-info: 03ethancentaurai 04v2.2.2 * r442 : Tagging as v2.2.2.
17:17.19TakikaI _really_ love underscore as variable name :)
17:17.43nevcairieli dare you to write an addon with all variables only containing underscores
17:17.49nevcairielvarying amounts are allowed!
17:18.10Takikalocal _, __, ___ ? :))
17:18.32pompy1___
17:18.42TakikaAddon name: ReadThisCodeIfYouCan :)
17:18.51Takikalocal _____ = for :)
17:18.59nevcairieldidnt someone write a brainfuck interpreter for lua
17:19.53arkaneswhitespace is a language, too
17:21.32Takikahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_(programming_language)
17:21.54nevcairielthere are plenty of fun esoteric languages
17:24.19pompy1Torhal: i say we convert ARL to Whitespace
17:24.44mckenziemcesoteric sure, but fun?
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17:31.44sbStanzilla: DO SOMETHING
17:32.23Stanzillasb: why
17:32.24Stanzillawhat
17:32.24Stanzillahow
17:32.38Megalonjust do it, Stanzilla
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17:42.41sbStanzilla: theramore thingy scenario
17:42.45sbnot recognized by WA
17:47.22asmodaipats sylvanaar_work
17:47.46sylvanaar_workhm?
17:53.18Reposilver-dragon: 03Kemayo 07master * v3.0-5-g4b05c10 SilverDragon.toc: [+1 commit] Order of file loading tweak
17:53.43asmodaisylvanaar_work: :D
17:53.47asmodaiYhellow
17:53.54sylvanaar_workhey man
17:54.00Stanzillasb: I know
17:54.32sylvanaar_worki am upset I wont get my new iphone until next month
17:54.37KemayoEthanCentaurai: ^^^
17:55.06StanzillaKemayo: silver dragon just errored on me, was it the thing you just fixed? index upvalue globaldb blabla
17:55.16KemayoThat's the one.
17:55.20Stanzillahokay fine
17:55.30asmodaiKemayo: The notification sound scared me first time around ;)
17:55.34MysticalOSsylvanaar, you were right, negotiate is just a pain the ass, even with my fix, it only solves "player not found" on login, but then still causes errors at logout which doesn't even make sense since it shoudn't be trying to negotiate with them. so i did what you said, commented entire dang thing out
17:55.36MysticalOSproblem solved
17:55.41StanzillaMysticalOS:  yo
17:55.46Stanzillamr instanceinfo professional
17:55.51MysticalOS?
17:56.06Stanzillahttp://paste2.org/p/2235544
17:56.09sylvanaar_workMysticalOS: cool
17:56.09Stanzillawhat does this tell you?
17:56.27mckenziemcthat you used paste2.org
17:56.36Stanzillatroll away mckenziemc
17:57.05Kemayoasmodai: It's supposed to be hard to miss. :D
17:57.13MysticalOSthat difficulty = 5man normal?
17:57.22asmodaiKemayo: uh huh, fat chance of that :P
17:57.26MysticalOSnot surpising, that's what scenario's are
17:57.51MysticalOSmax players 3?
17:57.56sylvanaar_workever since I installed vmware9 running VM's on my machine does not slow it down as much. It seems like thier memory management has improved
17:57.57MysticalOSis that max players for that?
17:58.00StanzillaMysticalOS: hrm but weakauras errored
17:58.04Stanzillayes
17:58.24MysticalOSit errored cause instance type was nil
17:58.27Stanzillait only should check for maxplayers if its a raid though
17:58.34Stanzillaor that
17:58.36MysticalOSit returned 1 3 4 5
17:58.53Stanzillaso why does it return nil, son of a bitch
18:00.22pompy1it doesnt like you
18:01.00arkaneshaha social media in pastebins!
18:01.02arkanesI love it
18:03.13MysticalOSstan just do this, since none is returned everywhere else
18:03.18MysticalOSnil = scenario
18:03.22MysticalOSfor 2nd arg
18:03.28StanzillaI did
18:03.29Stanzillaif(difficultyIndex == 0 or nil) then
18:03.29Stanzilla<PROTECTED>
18:03.41MysticalOSwell, that treats scenarios like outside world
18:03.47MysticalOSmaybe you want to actually say nil = scenario?
18:03.53MysticalOSand "none" = none
18:04.00Stanzillaprobably better
18:04.13Stanzillabut I think I never added the GUI option for all the other stuff
18:04.34Gnarfozwhois corg
18:04.35Gnarfoz:o
18:11.27StanzillaMysticalOS: that doesnt work btw, it still errors
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18:31.26MysticalOSyour fix is bad, the 2nd arg is there, it's just nil, your fix tried to fix a 3rd arg that isn't broken
18:31.34MysticalOS<PROTECTED>
18:31.59MysticalOSdifficultyIndex is 1
18:32.01MysticalOSin your dump
18:32.09MysticalOSinstanceType is nil
18:33.08MysticalOSif not instanceType then instanceType = "none" end
18:35.00Stanzillawhere is that shit again
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18:43.26Repoweakauras: 03mysticalos * r257 WeakAuras.lua: Fix nil instance types
18:43.43Funkeh`breses reset now after combat?
18:44.55Stanzillathank you MysticalOS
18:45.02StanzillaI was busy scenarioing with Gnarfoz
18:46.49znfw00t
18:46.56znf15 scenarios / week as a guild
18:47.58MysticalOSout of curiousity, but what does /dump IsinInstance() return in scenario?
18:48.17MysticalOSwell, ok got api wrong
18:49.16MysticalOS<PROTECTED>
18:49.50MysticalOSthat will probably be nil too
18:51.01Repoweakauras: 03mysticalos * r258 WeakAuras.lua: Refix it, without fatfingering extra keys
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18:53.24Gnarfoz@project loggerhead
18:53.25RepoGnarfoz: [WoW] LoggerHead (Updated Jan 13, 2012 at 23:29 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/loggerhead/
18:54.31Gnarfoz3x LoggerHead-r132\Loggerhead-r132.lua:174: table index is nil; LoggerHead-r132\Loggerhead-r132.lua:174: in function "?"; Ace3-r1064\CallbackHandler-1.0\CallbackHandler-1.0-6.lua:147: in function <Ace3\CallbackHandler-1.0\CallbackHandler-1.0.lua:147>
18:54.35GnarfozStanzilla: ^
18:55.46Repojump-counter: 03durcyn 07master * 50001-04-1-ga10fbe1 locale.lua: [+1 commit] add missing locale file, derp
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18:59.01Gnarfoz@ticket loggerhead 39
18:59.02RepoGnarfoz: [Defect] loggerhead options menu fails to load (New, Updated Sep 09, 2012 at 03:26 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/loggerhead/tickets/39
18:59.06GnarfozStanzilla: ^
18:59.41Slaymanflexget my old friend you needed an upgrade, too much slipped through the cracks
19:00.13durcynthey broke the options so badly past 2385 that i just pegged it there and forgot about it
19:02.23Slaymanhad to rename feeds and need to recheck about quality not being max_quality other than that it works now, let's see if it catches 'em all
19:03.15durcynwasn't actually writing them out last time i ventured an upgrade
19:03.30durcynor passing the URIs to transmission, for that matter
19:03.46Funkeh`Stanzilla, so is fury back to being better than arms?
19:04.05StanzillaFunkeh`: atm yes
19:04.09Stanzillawith some gear tweaks
19:04.15Stanzillabuit it will be crap again come lvl 90
19:04.49Slaymanna I went with deluge, for some reason unbeknownst to me 8-|
19:05.25Gnarfozfastest torrent client >_>
19:05.28Gnarfozfor seeding, at least
19:05.59Slaymanautodelete after ratio 3:1
19:06.15Slaymandon't care for how lang that takes
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19:07.54SlaymanGnarfoz: are you using thetvdb.com for your "what to download"
19:07.57Gnarfozno
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19:08.16Gnarfoz(but I think my bt tracker uses their show banners and/or metadata)
19:08.30Slaymanwell doesn't that like complicate the adding of removal of things to watch
19:08.53durcyni'm still using a yahoo pipe some random put together a while back, aggregates five or six different sources
19:09.26durcyntagging software pulls in tvdb though, if that's what you're talking about
19:09.41Gnarfoznot sure what you mean Slayman
19:09.47Gnarfozor what I would use that site for
19:09.59Slaymanwell thetvdfb is just keeping track of my "favorites" which flexget checks and then DLs them from my source RSS feeds
19:10.09Gnarfozflexget ;o
19:10.27Gnarfozhaven't heard of that in a decade, if I think that's what I think it is
19:10.28Slaymanit is awesome!
19:10.33sbget sickbeard Slayman
19:10.50durcynthere are multiple things named flexget, Gnarfoz, this one's a python rss grabber
19:10.51Slaymansickbeard? ?! ?!?
19:10.56Stanzillawww.sickbeard.com
19:10.57Gnarfozdurcyn: I see
19:10.58Stanzillabest eu
19:11.00sbhttp://sickbeard.com/
19:11.20durcynand last i checked sickbeard was NNTP specific, no?
19:11.23sbadd series, add usenet/torrent provider, wait for twitter notification :p
19:11.24Slaymanflexget cannot tap into sickbeard
19:11.53sbokay "limited torrent support"
19:12.09Slaymanlimited as in well that didn't work at all
19:12.13znfthe community is so shit :-/
19:12.17sbbut since you want to use usenet instead of torrent for downloading stuff - its great :p
19:12.22znfthe wow community I mean
19:12.40Slaymanusenet costs money torrents don't at least not for me yet
19:12.40znfWhy would you use Sickbeard?
19:12.42znf:-|
19:12.49znfflexget ftw!
19:12.54znftorreeeeeeeeentz!
19:13.30Gnarfozsince my bt tracker is in the high-quality niché, I don't really have a need to grab anything from outside sources *shrug*
19:13.33nevcairieltorrents are what gets you sued these days :P
19:13.42Gnarfozyou think? I don't think so
19:13.53nevcairielprobably not over US tv shows, though
19:14.02znf*shrug*
19:14.04Gnarfozprobably over nothing, since nobody knows I'm using it
19:14.09znfwho watches european shows? :P
19:14.12Gnarfoz*le encryption*
19:14.13Slaymannot being careful is what get's you sued
19:14.19Gnarfoztrue
19:14.21znfI mean, the only shows I recently saw from UK was Sherlock
19:14.22znfthat's it
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19:14.37znfIf you download from TPB, you might get sued, sure
19:14.37nevcairielrouting the whole torrent traffic through tor is le slow!
19:14.50Gnarfozthat's overkill and frowned upon
19:14.51znfStick to private communities :P
19:14.52arkanesthats why you need a usenet binaries account
19:14.52Gnarfozand unecessary
19:14.59Slaymanalso germany does not sue for american tv, I don't dl movies or games or the likes, exclusively TV shows
19:15.19GnarfozYES arkanes, because downloading from dedicated news servers is so much safer than p2p with encryption o_O
19:15.26znfI laugh every time someone mentiones usenet :P
19:15.28znfIt's like stoneage
19:15.36arkanesGnarfoz: it's all about where they're looking
19:15.45Gnarfozthey're looking everywhere that's not encrypted
19:15.46nevcairielUsually you just get sued for uploading, at least its much easier for them to get you that way
19:15.48arkanesGnarfoz: usenets not popular enough for them to care about it
19:15.55Gnarfozyou bet?
19:15.57Gnarfoz:P
19:15.57Slaymanbut it got traction once the sueing began and filehosters became dime a dozen
19:16.09arkanesthat's also true, strictly downloading is a harder legal case to make
19:16.11znfIt's easier to track usenet than p2p...
19:16.11durcynyeah, no one ever heard of usenet, that's why isps haven't carried alt.binaries for years
19:16.14arkanesznf: yes
19:16.21durcynare you new to the whole internet thing
19:16.23Gnarfozreboot tiems
19:16.26arkanesit's not *inherently* safer
19:16.41nevcairieli still use torrent for tv myself, but i wouldnt touch a public tracker with a 10ft pole
19:16.51znfNo ISP in Romania caries usenet servers
19:17.07znfThere's no need, really, 100Mbit internet is a cheap commodity
19:17.11arkanesbut because it's there's not as much publicity or awareness, they don't have the infrastructure and everything set up to send out the autoletters and so on
19:17.29znfarkanes, that's another silly statement
19:17.36arkanesznf: is it?
19:17.42znfthere's usenet ads on every damn public BT tracker
19:17.50arkanesso?
19:18.00znfSo how can you say there's no publicity or awareness?
19:18.05arkanesI didn't say that
19:18.08arkanesso... there you go
19:18.45znfAnd the fact that they charge money for something that the "scene" releases for free...
19:18.46znfpfft
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19:19.00arkanesI'm saying that at this time, the focus of the various groups that prosecute people for illegal downloads and uploads is focussed on bt
19:19.04arkanesfor a bunch of reasons
19:19.22durcynexcept they're also looking at usenet, it's not like they can only monitor one at a time
19:19.27znfit's focused on public torrent trackers...
19:19.32arkanesand that therefore, your odds of getting a cutoff letter or actually sued for downloading from an alt.binaries group is less than that of being sued for bt downloads
19:19.38nevcairieland taking down rapidshare :P
19:19.40durcynand now that they're bribing your ISP to do DPI
19:19.46durcyngame over, man
19:19.50Slaymandamn it rapidshare is fi
19:19.53Slaymanghting
19:19.59Slaymansorry had to sneeze ^^
19:20.04arkanesznf: I have no idea why you would think that private trackers are "safe"
19:20.25znfthey're safer than public ones :)
19:20.36arkanesa little bit, maybe
19:20.49arkanesand for similar reasons to why usenet is safer than bt in general
19:21.22durcynthe obscurity argument will never be valid
19:21.28Slaymanrapidshare is the only one who can actually provide the DL Speed I can receive
19:21.33znfI'd rather point out that private torrent trackers are usually free and they don't make any money from the content
19:21.34arkanesusenets not p2p, after all, and they need the active participation of your isp and the hoster of the usenet server to identify you
19:21.41znfUsenet is NOT free and they make money out of it
19:21.44znfWhich makes the matter worse
19:21.45durcynyou can feel as safe as you want, your feeling will continue to have no effect on reality
19:21.58arkanesdurcyn: sure lets talk about reality
19:22.15arkanesdurcyn: I'm sure you've got numbers on the amount of successful prosecutions for usenet downloading vs bt?
19:22.20durcynit doesn't matter if you get sniffed passing port 119 or 6881
19:22.47arkanescontent sniffing like that isn't the norm anywhere yet
19:23.04znfIt is on big ISPs
19:23.05arkanesand it does matter, because they don't have unlimited resources and can't just sniff evertyhing on every port in every protocol
19:23.09durcynand let's talk about how many of those prosecutions were for kazaa, for how relevant history is here
19:23.16arkanesznf: that's untrue
19:23.18znfThey do sniff everything on every protocol
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19:23.23znfUPC for example does it
19:23.28znfSandvine is on the lookout
19:24.18znfUnless you encrypt the traffic, and Sandvine fails on that
19:24.24arkanesridiculous
19:24.38arkanesif you're going to assume that they're content sniffing all your traffic on every protocol for every person everywhere
19:24.56arkaneswhich, incidentally, is an absurdly expensive level of traffic and not somethign that even the NSA hookups do
19:24.59znfdude, they ARE sniffing
19:25.04arkanesthen you should also assume they're mitming all your traffic
19:25.11znfThey are sniffing everythign that passes trough their network
19:25.14arkanesbecause they can, and there's no wasy way for you to know
19:25.27znfSeriously, read up on Sandvine
19:26.12znfIt detects p2p traffic, "somehow", then it filters it by limiting the speed and reseting the connections
19:26.17arkanessure
19:26.22arkanesthat's not the same as content sniffing
19:26.38arkanesthat's actually as old as the internet and the least of what sandvine and other tools can do
19:26.40znfHow do you think they're detecting p2p traffic from non p2p traffic?
19:26.44arkanesthat's cheap and easy and largely effective
19:27.01znfI never said that they're looking in every packet you send, it's automated, but everything passes trough their filters
19:27.07arkanesit's also totally different than identifying what you're torrenting and notifying a rights holder
19:27.43znfI never said that. I don't think there's any ISP that identifies the content you're torrenting
19:27.49znfIt's not their job to do
19:27.59arkanesthe various content companies want them to
19:28.17arkanesand it's possible to do, and they do have the technology to do it on limited scales
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19:28.53arkanesjust identifying the fact that you're using BT is not dangerous to you, though, and can be done regardless of whether or not you encrypt it
19:29.20arkanesBTs traffic patterns are distinctive even if the data streams are opaque
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19:46.54Stanzilla@zh1nt0: A Dyslexic man walks into a bra...#HAHAHAHHA
19:49.53Dridztwth is Blizz doing with the compact unit frames, toggling "keep groups together" from raid manager option makes one unit disappear, no taint messages
19:49.57RessyQuestion: Does the guild recruitment channel still exist?
19:50.13Dridztonly if you're unguilded afaic
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19:53.45Stanzillathought so
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19:58.34Stanzillayay
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20:00.12Ressydang.. okies. thx :)
20:00.28ElkanoTorhal, did you get my query earlier today?
20:01.07Torhal|workElkano: I did, but it was before I left for the office and I forget what it was.
20:01.32Elkanowowdb profiler messing with map dropdowns if a NPC is selected
20:05.10Torhal|workElkano: Oh. That. Shit. :/
20:05.21Torhal|workPutting on my TODO.
20:08.00Stanzillabreser: boss frames before first raid tier in mop?
20:08.16Torhal|workStanzilla: You really don't want that added, do you?
20:08.24StanzillaTorhal|work: :D
20:08.29StanzillaI was serious this time though
20:08.43Stanzillawas thinking about creating a oUF layout if it's not in by then
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20:11.50breserStanzilla: I realize it's something everyone wants.  It'll get done "soon".
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20:14.14Stanzillawhat the hell happened to you and where is the real breser?
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20:18.11nevcairieli dont really consider boss frames that crucial really
20:18.24nevcairielbut on the other hand, if pitbull had some sane internals, adding a bunch of new units should be trivial
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20:19.39Stanzillait's part of the standard set of unitframes
20:19.47Stanzillaand a unitframe addon should cover all of them
20:19.52Repotradeskill-info: 03ethancentaurai 04v2.2.3 * r444 : Tagging as v2.2.3.
20:20.02Stanzillaand pb has no arena frames either but that is covered by the same code
20:20.54nevcairielthats a lame argument, you must think its important for something otherwise you wouldnt try to fail at oUF :P
20:21.35StanzillaI just want to stop using 2 unitframe addons
20:22.05Stanzillaand arena+boss frames are very important
20:24.11EthanCentauraioUF_Adirelle is wonderful when it works
20:24.54EthanCentaurai~seen Adirelle
20:24.58purladirelle <~Adirelle@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 283d 23h 38m 22s ago, saying: 'nevcairiel, LibBabble-Inventory-3.0 needs to be updated : ptBR strings have been added into the localization system since r141.'.
20:25.13EthanCentauraihuh
20:38.39ArcharodimIs patch 5.0.5 deployed on the whole planet?
20:40.13Repoweakauras: 03stanzilla 041.4.7.4 * r259 : Tagging as 1.4.7.4
20:40.39nebula169i don't think 5.0 is out in china? could be wrong
20:41.01nebula169i know they approved it, but not sure the status beyond that
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20:46.24Repodecursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.7.1.1-8-gcb6691c Dcr_Events.lua: [+1 commit] Also check for player GUID when checking for talent availability since (UnitGUID("player")) may still return nil.
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20:49.35RepoUse PLAYER_LOGIN/PLAYER_LOGOUT instead of enter/leave world.
20:49.36RepoFail nicer if for some reason LibStub or CallbackHandler are not available.
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21:12.05bresernevcairiel: It is easy to add units.
21:12.15bresernevcairiel: Hell there's a simple patch to just add them as singletons.
21:12.19breserI don't want to add them that way.
21:12.24breserThey really should behave as a group.
21:12.55breserAnd all the group logic depends on the SecureGroupHeaders for positioning.
21:13.03breserAnd a lot of other stuff.
21:13.31breserAnd of course the secure group header stuff doesn't support those units only party or raid.
21:14.00breserSo it's not a matter of sane internals.
21:15.15znfwhat was that battle ground manager queue command?
21:16.17Stanzillashift+h
21:16.41znfthe api
21:17.43znf/script BattlefieldMgrQueueRequest(21)
21:17.53znffor some reasons, the button is greyed out whenever I try to join T
21:17.54znf...
21:17.59znfbut I can queue with the api
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21:24.29znfStanzilla, what's that shadowpriest thingie?
21:24.31znfthe blog
21:25.16sbwrong s<ab>
21:25.19sbs<tab>
21:25.22sbznf: http://warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com/
21:27.30znfSo yeah, I was correct
21:27.38znfthe engineering trinket ranks even higher with exp, spi and hit
21:27.51znfwould be 1800 spell hit
21:28.10znfhow much hit do we need for 15% @ lvl90 ?
21:31.15arkanesznf: you mean doubling up on exp/hit cogs just to be able to double dip on hit?
21:31.24sbewww wait
21:31.28sbexp as priest?
21:31.31sbwtf did i miss?
21:31.43End_expertise gives spell hit\
21:31.47sbsrsly?
21:31.49sbmeehhh
21:31.54sbat which conversion rate?
21:31.57arkanessb: it's to help hunter pets and hybrids like enhance shamans
21:32.09arkanesif you're melee hit/exp capped, you get spell hit capped as well
21:32.22arkanesapplying it to pures seems a bit odd and does lead to stuff like this though
21:33.03End_you won't see it on your gear, and I wouldn't think you'd care other than you can reforge to it
21:33.21End_although I guess the gem color is different too
21:33.45arkanesin this case the issue is engineering cogs
21:33.51End_oh, I see
21:34.10arkanesbut wait
21:34.19arkanesare cogs unique? I didn't think they were
21:34.22arkanesbut I guess maybe they are
21:34.24sbthy are
21:34.29End_unique equipped, yes
21:34.30sbunique equipped
21:34.42arkanesif you wear the helm and the trinket you've got 5 cog slots to use up then
21:35.10sbmhh, right
21:35.17sbso 3*"hit" + haste + crit
21:35.26arkanesjust 2 hit surely?
21:35.29arkanesexp + actual hit
21:35.31sbspi
21:35.35arkanesright
21:35.45sbwhats the exp -> hit conversion rate?
21:35.55arkanessame as regular hit
21:36.50arkanesthe total amount of rating you need for hit cap is the same between melee and casters
21:37.47Repolibdbicon-1-0: 03funkydude * r28 LibDBIcon-1.0/LibDBIcon-1.0.lua: don't set global onDragStop.
21:40.47Repotargetpercent: 03funkydude * r37 TargetPercent.lua: Fix unit check for bosses
21:41.03Repocollectinator: 03Ackis 072.0 * 1.1.1-216-ga30c678 / (10 files in 3 directories): [+20 commits] (16 truncated)
21:41.03Repoa30c678: Add in MoP factions, this can by C&P to ARL.  Babble Faction will give errors until it's been regenerated.
21:41.04Repoe71b902: Enabled all disabled reps because we don't know what we have just yet.
21:41.04Repo969748a: remove more recipe references
21:41.05Repoc3f6df4: Update localizations, removed a couple that weren't used anymore.
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21:56.43Repo87a16da: Forgot another place.
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21:56.51sbuhoh
21:57.03Repocollectinator: 03Ackis 072.0 * 1.1.1-219-geb29bff Interface/List.lua: [+1 commit] Remove whitespace. Oops.
21:57.07sbsome update from today re-positioned my loot window :o
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21:59.37Ackis^ dry-coded
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22:03.13Repotargetpercent: 03funkydude * r38 TargetPercent.lua: remove the onshow scripts.
22:03.22nevcairieloh right i wanted to run the babble script
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22:06.07znfsorry, was taking a shower
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22:06.09RepoAutomated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system
22:06.14znfYes, exp == hit == spi
22:06.19Repolibbabble-zone-3-0: 03nevcairiel * r358 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua:
22:06.20RepoAutomated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system
22:06.32znfreforging to exp helps pure casters, too, if they have a piece with hit already on it
22:06.48znfthe engineering trinket is usable by everyone
22:07.36znfand yes, as a shadow priest you can use all 3 of them for 1800 hit rating (or balance druid, elemental shaman)
22:08.14Repoarl: 03Ackis 07master * 2.4-90-g3b620c4 Interface/FilterMenus.lua: [+1 commit] Add a work around for the BFAC issue, fixes a dry-code error too.
22:14.24Repotargetpercent: 03funkydude * r39 TargetPercent.lua: Actually keep onshow for bosses only. dc/reload in combat.
22:16.10Repolibbabble-race-3-0: 03nevcairiel * r55 LibBabble-Race-3.0.lua:
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22:16.30arkanesif you're not a hybrid caster though you only have 4 stats to put in your 5 cog slots
22:16.33arkanesI think
22:16.39Repolibbabble-boss-3-0: 03nevcairiel 045.0-release4 * r386 : Weekly Tag - #4
22:16.40arkaneshaste, crit, hit, exp?
22:16.44Repolibbabble-creaturetype-3-0: 03nevcairiel 045.0-release4 * r122 : Weekly Tag - #4
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22:18.42arkanesanyway it's really only valuable as long as you don't have sufficient rating eleswhere to find the hit
22:19.01arkanesso unless the on use is amazing I doubt it'll last past the first tier
22:20.15Repoarl: 03Ackis 07master * 2.4-91-g8a447e5 / (12 files in 3 directories): [+1 commit] Revert a revert.
22:20.19MysticalOSwhere the EU queue times like 20 min?
22:20.23MysticalOSthis is dumb
22:20.29End_you better revert that revert
22:21.00End_..pervert
22:21.03nevcairielfor the scenario? instance servers were apparently just too full
22:21.22End_I guess that shouldn't really be a surprise
22:21.29End_being it's a new thing that everyone wants to see
22:21.32nevcairieli mean, everyone is just bored these days
22:21.46nevcairieli didnt do it yet, after waiting 15min for a group i was like, screw this, can do it tomorrow :p
22:22.05Repotargetpercent: 03funkydude * r40 TargetPercent.lua: typo
22:22.32Ackisthanks nevcairiel
22:22.57arkanesoh the scenario is up?
22:22.59arkanesI need to get ons that
22:24.07MysticalOSdon't rush, you'll be in queue 20min
22:24.08sbyup, its boring ;p
22:24.12MysticalOSto do something you plow through in about 3
22:24.23sbfind some realid/bnet-tag friends :D
22:24.38nevcairieli was told even with a full group it takes a bit to get a instance
22:24.45sbyup, 30s or so
22:24.57sbarkanes: eu horde? :P
22:25.41arkanessb: nah us
22:26.06arkanesStanzilla: does that tag you just did to weakauras have the scenario fix?
22:34.06MysticalOS30 min in queue now and still waiting
22:35.35Repobrez: 03funkydude * r86 bRez.lua:
22:35.36RepoTweak the xrealm pattern match to remove the "(Portuguese)" from the name
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22:37.00Funkeh`nebula169, why is your combat lockdown check commented out in betterextraactionbutton
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22:37.16nebula169that's probably a good question
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22:50.32groksebites Funkeh`s switches
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22:55.32mckenziemcgrokse: look what you did to quiescens
23:01.14kagaroMysticalOS you not missing anything
23:01.39arkaneswell that was incredibly unsatisfying
23:01.43arkaneslike a blowjob from your aunt
23:02.38mckenziemco.o
23:03.06arkanesthe theramore scenario :(
23:03.37Reposhadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.5.8-1-g785cf79 / (5 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Support for top -> bottom, bottom -> top and right -> left bar growths have been added under widget size when advanced settings are enabled
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23:28.20Repolibgroupinspect: 03anyia3 * r25 LibGroupInSpecT-1.0.lua:  (4 lines trimmed from commit message)
23:28.20RepoAdded Dridzt's game data caching, including talent spell IDs (woo!).
23:28.21RepoWish I'd remembered about the GameTooltip! =)
23:30.49Dridztnebula169: probably commented out because there was a typo IsInCombatLockdown() instead of InCombatLockdown()
23:32.43Funkeh`I brought it up because I reloaded in combat and wondered what the taint I got was
23:33.06Dridztyea I had edited my local copy for same reason, your comment made me remember
23:33.17Funkeh`boom he dcd :D
23:33.24DridztInCombatLockdown() is not sufficient too for reloads
23:33.43Funkeh`why?
23:33.43Dridztyou need UnitAffectingCombat("player") or UnitAffectingCombat("pet") too to be absolutely safe
23:33.52Funkeh`hmm
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23:34.02DridztInCombatLockdown() seems to have a 'grace' period in reloads
23:34.11Dridztyou get taint regardless what it says
23:35.07Funkeh`nebula169, did you get that msg from Dridzt ?
23:36.29nebula169so when you reload in combat the function doesn't return true until the loading bar goes away or such? that's annoying
23:37.11Dridztyea
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23:57.46Repo- Added ALL new MoP mounts
23:57.47Repo- Added missing Darkmoon mounts to mount page
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