| 00:07.12 | Talryn | I guess if you name a frame when you call CreateFrame, there is no way to later rename it? |
| 00:07.55 | End_ | why do you want to rename it? |
| 00:08.19 | Talryn | Because the name is based on input from the user and I want to allow the user to rename it. |
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| 00:42.18 | stencil | End, are you there? I badly need a sanity check. Just had a moment of "did it always work like that and if so how much crack was I on back then?" |
| 00:43.05 | End_ | did what work? |
| 00:43.13 | End_ | (yes I am here) |
| 00:44.18 | stencil | okay - so I just set the filters on the pet journal so that it didn't show collected, only the non collected. When I called GetNumPets it still returned the correct value for the number of pets I own |
| 00:44.37 | stencil | I had thought that the numOwned was the number owned within the filtered results ... |
| 00:44.42 | End_ | nah |
| 00:44.47 | End_ | only total changes I'm pretty sure |
| 00:44.59 | End_ | I'm pretty sure numOwned stayed the same |
| 00:45.07 | End_ | well |
| 00:45.12 | stencil | which is why repsonding to LIST_UPDATE looked to be such an issue |
| 00:45.12 | End_ | mostly sure |
| 00:46.03 | stencil | because to determine if the number of owned changed I thought you had to reset the filters so that you could be sure you were getting the correct num owned (in case they were filtering to favorites or something) and then that would spawn additional list updates |
| 00:47.17 | End_ | I've always unregistered, reset filters, and then got the result from GetNumPets() + iterated through all pets |
| 00:47.24 | End_ | so I'm not completely certain |
| 00:47.43 | stencil | but if you can just determine whether the total count of owned has changed regardless of filter state then its not quite as bad an issue cause you can ignore any update lists if the numOwned hasn't changed without touching the filters |
| 00:48.15 | End_ | nods. |
| 00:48.39 | stencil | yeah, I've been doing the reset filters thing too the whole time ... which means I either made a whole mess of work for myself for no reason or the behavior did change ... |
| 00:48.52 | stencil | hence, sanity check heh |
| 00:50.25 | End_ | I'm trying to be general purpose, so I kinda shied away from using those counts, but that might simplify things quite a bit |
| 00:51.20 | End_ | hm |
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| 00:52.20 | End_ | maybe numOwned did change behavior, because I very definitely considered comparing against it at one point |
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| 00:54.00 | End_ | okay, I don't even know anymore, let's just both be crazy people |
| 00:55.25 | End_ | numOwned is only used in the ui for the owned pets indicator at the top, so it makes sense for it to not be affected by filters |
| 00:56.01 | stencil | yes. but that doesn't mean it didn't used to work differently heh |
| 00:56.13 | End_ | yeah I dunno |
| 00:56.34 | End_ | I kinda wish I kept better notes |
| 01:01.23 | End_ | hm that removed a bit of code |
| 01:02.24 | stencil | I had posted something on the blizzard forums about the potential for LIST_UPDATE problems when there were multiple addons and how they really should add a PET_JOURNAL_PET_ADDED event. Someone followed up in support about the problem and suggested as another way they could solve it adding an unfiltered param to GetPetInfoByIndex and GetNumPets ... they wouldn't have to add an unfilitered flag to GetNumPets if numOwned had always been u |
| 01:02.42 | End_ | well |
| 01:02.47 | End_ | I like to know about species too |
| 01:03.12 | End_ | and unfiltered, total just owned + species you don't know about |
| 01:03.48 | stencil | yeah, but the key is knowing whether you can ignore a list update or not |
| 01:04.08 | End_ | true, but an unfiltered flag would need to be applied in both places |
| 01:04.16 | stencil | (so really, he could have limited his suggestion in my opinion to GetNumFlags) |
| 01:04.33 | End_ | species won't change, but when scanning I want unfiltered in both places |
| 01:06.19 | End_ | well, it doesn't break |
| 01:06.52 | End_ | except I don't know when I went from 222 pets to 227, but I'll assume I logged onto an alt or something |
| 01:07.11 | End_ | now to test on the beta with pet battles |
| 01:07.12 | stencil | heh |
| 01:07.17 | End_ | and cages |
| 01:07.42 | stencil | yeah- did you see my follow up post in the forums? |
| 01:07.46 | End_ | yeah |
| 01:08.06 | End_ | I was considering how to respond to it, but this numOwned business might make my original response irrelevant |
| 01:08.21 | End_ | (ie if we can just check to see if it changed) |
| 01:08.51 | stencil | yeah, it makes both of my posts pretty much irrelevant as well |
| 01:09.01 | End_ | huh odd |
| 01:09.11 | End_ | I got a whole bunch of PJLU when I logged into the beta |
| 01:09.20 | stencil | PJLU? |
| 01:09.20 | End_ | oops |
| 01:09.26 | End_ | PET_JOURNAL_LIST_UPDATED |
| 01:09.29 | End_ | our old friend ;-p |
| 01:10.26 | End_ | oh |
| 01:10.32 | End_ | I forgot to copy over the new version |
| 01:10.40 | End_ | and I'm using a really old version |
| 01:15.32 | End_ | this most recent build was yesterday? |
| 01:16.04 | stencil | I think so, there was a rolling restart thingy scheduled for this morning IIRC so they may have slipped in a change then |
| 01:18.39 | stencil | are you seeing on the beta that the count of owned is one more than it should be as well? |
| 01:18.49 | End_ | I wasn't even looking at that yet :< |
| 01:19.11 | End_ | apparently I completely fail at putting the right versions in my AddOns directory |
| 01:19.12 | stencil | well, just wanted to remind you of that in case you would get errors related to it |
| 01:19.32 | End_ | shouldn't affect me, but I'll see if it is right or now |
| 01:19.37 | End_ | s/now/not/ |
| 01:20.11 | End_ | ok much better |
| 01:21.02 | End_ | I get the same number as the GetNumPets() |
| 01:21.29 | stencil | err, how are you generating that number? |
| 01:21.39 | End_ | load from 1 to total |
| 01:21.47 | End_ | if owned put it in the owned list |
| 01:21.55 | End_ | (isOwned, whatever) |
| 01:22.02 | End_ | I also catch all species |
| 01:22.12 | stencil | ah, so you are iterating over the not collected as well? |
| 01:22.15 | End_ | yes |
| 01:22.26 | stencil | I do not |
| 01:22.41 | End_ | my addon doesn't care, but the library assumes someone will want that info |
| 01:22.51 | stencil | but ... it would seem odd for there to be a mount filtered by collected/notcollected that is counted in the total number of owned |
| 01:23.10 | stencil | and doesn't display properly in the PetJournal itself |
| 01:23.16 | stencil | how many do you own? |
| 01:23.28 | End_ | 200 on beta |
| 01:23.39 | End_ | total is 507 |
| 01:23.48 | stencil | been busy haven't you :) |
| 01:24.00 | End_ | many are duplicates |
| 01:24.14 | stencil | or at least, when I had my toon copied over to the beta server, it didn't keep any of my pets |
| 01:24.16 | End_ | being I've copied the same character over twice :P |
| 01:24.22 | End_ | ah |
| 01:24.34 | End_ | actually the first copy didn't I guess |
| 01:24.34 | stencil | all the ones I have I bought or trapped |
| 01:24.38 | End_ | I copied again and the second copy worked |
| 01:25.08 | End_ | now to battle all the pets and also release and cage them too |
| 01:26.44 | End_ | actually, first I should make it not tell me about COMPANION_UPDATED "MOUNT" in my event debugger :< |
| 01:27.18 | stencil | COMPANION_UDPATE is pretty much all around useless |
| 01:27.24 | End_ | mostly |
| 01:27.33 | End_ | I use it for one strange situation |
| 01:27.39 | stencil | doesn't it fire anytime someone wanders into your range with a pet or mount or something? |
| 01:27.49 | End_ | the mount event does |
| 01:28.27 | End_ | critter fires when you swap pets (my addon cares about that part) and then it also fires useful on very rare occasions when logging in |
| 01:28.57 | End_ | like...PET_JOURNAL_LIST_UPDATE fires...but you don't have completely pet information...and then COMPANION_UPDATE "CRITTER" fires, and now it is up to date |
| 01:29.03 | stencil | might be better to hook SummonPetByID instead to catch pet swaps |
| 01:29.23 | End_ | I want to catch losing your pet due to whatever |
| 01:29.41 | End_ | but that's not in the library |
| 01:30.58 | stencil | well, as far as I can tell dismissal is through another call to SummonPetByID, but if you need to catch things like pets despawning for range or something then ok |
| 01:31.05 | End_ | yup |
| 01:31.52 | End_ | huh, PET_JOURNAL_PET_DELETED is firing twice? |
| 01:32.17 | End_ | well whatever |
| 01:32.17 | stencil | yes |
| 01:32.22 | End_ | this seems to work |
| 01:33.06 | stencil | and yeah, I sort of just check on the second whether I have an entry for that pid in my data and if not just ignore it if the numOwned count hasn't changed |
| 01:35.20 | stencil | I've sort of foolishly optimized my code on deletion to not rebuild the list if I can just prune out the one pid (but if it was the only example of its species then I rebuild since certain indexes I keep are now invalid and its easier to rebuild than bother shifting stuff) |
| 01:36.55 | End_ | welol |
| 01:36.56 | End_ | well |
| 01:37.00 | End_ | it looks like this strategy works |
| 01:38.09 | stencil | so, I just threw put together a little code in a wowlua folder to iterate all pets and count numOwned and I'm still getting a diff of 1 |
| 01:38.54 | stencil | all the toons are same faction on beta ... but still I should probably roll through them all to see if for some reason one has access to an extra pet |
| 01:42.47 | End_ | oh could be |
| 01:42.56 | End_ | but |
| 01:43.05 | End_ | all pets should show up regardless of faction |
| 01:43.30 | End_ | I have the moonkin pet, and both horde and alliance version show up, I just can summon the other faction's version |
| 01:43.48 | End_ | s/can /can't / |
| 01:44.28 | stencil | yeah, I saw the unsummonable issue with horde vs alliance balloons |
| 01:45.11 | stencil | but based on the toons I have on the beta and the fact that the only pets I have are ones I bought or trapped I shouldn't see that |
| 01:45.46 | stencil | of course, maybe the issue is related in some way to the fact that I don't have the pets the toon I transfered to beta should have |
| 01:46.17 | End_ | in my experience they just didn't get merged |
| 01:46.26 | End_ | but I dunno |
| 01:50.34 | stencil | yeah, hmmm. I count 33 pets, GetNumPets tells me 34. GetNumCompanions("CRITTER") returns 136 ... |
| 01:51.00 | stencil | could be some result of failed merge ... don't know |
| 01:52.13 | End_ | yeah that definitely shows that it didn't merge |
| 01:52.25 | End_ | but dunno why the count would be off |
| 01:52.52 | stencil | and off by only 1 since 136 is >> than 34 |
| 01:53.30 | quiescens | o.o |
| 01:54.41 | Torhal | savagely stabs quiescens with Ackis. |
| 01:54.46 | quiescens | dies. |
| 01:54.51 | pompy | why torhal |
| 01:55.08 | quiescens | ): |
| 01:55.14 | Torhal | Because you're too unreliable, pompy. You might have skidded off of his liver. |
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| 02:25.28 | mckenziemc | so mean quiescens |
| 02:25.34 | mckenziemc | ~lart quiescens |
| 02:25.34 | purl | throws quiescens's poor little doggy off a cliff |
| 02:25.39 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 02:25.59 | grokse | ~lart mckenziemc |
| 02:25.59 | purl | slaps mckenziemc upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 02:26.11 | mckenziemc | ~whaleslap grokse |
| 02:26.11 | purl | ACTION beats grokse upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
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| 02:50.15 | durcyn | fix your bot then |
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| 03:24.25 | mckenziemc | don't look at me like that quiescens |
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| 04:00.30 | durcyn | Kaelten: gief repo :( |
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| 04:39.01 | nevcairiel | what, repo has been broken for a day now and no-one bothered to simply start it again? |
| 04:41.43 | znf | nevcairiel, did you do stuff on CCCP? |
| 04:42.23 | nevcairiel | i dont involve myself in those weird codec packs, i just write codecs, what packs use them is not in my control =p |
| 04:42.35 | znf | what codec did you write? :D |
| 04:43.05 | znf | was just looking around and noticed "Thanks to Nevcairiel we now have much better ISO Media Container" |
| 04:43.49 | nevcairiel | they switched to my stuff for some things, including the mp4 demuxer i guess |
| 04:44.03 | nevcairiel | i dont usually pay attention to that stuff |
| 04:44.24 | znf | I was just trying to find info on when/why did ffdshow remove a lot of their encoders |
| 04:44.44 | nevcairiel | because they were broken and unmaintained |
| 04:48.06 | znf | I'll never get the hype of 10bit stuff... |
| 04:48.46 | nevcairiel | its just for better compression |
| 04:48.51 | nevcairiel | but only weird anime people use it |
| 04:49.47 | nevcairiel | you can get 10-20% better compression from the same source when you do it in 10bit |
| 04:49.50 | znf | Ah, so it's not actually better video quality |
| 04:50.19 | nevcairiel | well, better compression is the same as better quality, it just depends how you tweak the parameters |
| 04:50.35 | nevcairiel | if you have a fixed target size, better compression allows you to put more data into that file |
| 04:50.40 | znf | yeah, got that |
| 04:50.43 | nevcairiel | if you just want smaller, then the quality stays the same |
| 04:50.56 | znf | but if you're not limited by size, quality is not better with 10bit |
| 04:51.13 | nevcairiel | not if you use a 8-bit source |
| 04:51.31 | nevcairiel | (which like 99.9% of content is) |
| 04:51.32 | znf | are there 10 bit sources? |
| 04:51.40 | znf | other than weird anime :P |
| 04:52.01 | nevcairiel | some professional cameras produce 10bit, but nothing in the consumer area really |
| 04:52.24 | znf | guessing that blu-ray content is all 8bit |
| 04:52.29 | nevcairiel | yesa |
| 04:52.31 | nevcairiel | -a |
| 04:53.50 | znf | so people are just tripping balls if they claim better quality on 10bit stuff, basically |
| 04:54.24 | nevcairiel | there might be some corner cases where its slightly better |
| 04:54.39 | nevcairiel | but usually, its really done for compression, not quality |
| 04:55.28 | znf | also, wtf is LAV? |
| 04:55.42 | nevcairiel | my codec |
| 04:55.46 | znf | related to libav in any way? |
| 04:56.14 | nevcairiel | not directly, i had the name before libav split from ffmpeg |
| 04:56.49 | znf | libav split from ffmpeg?! o.o |
| 04:56.58 | znf | I've been living under a rock, I guess |
| 04:57.12 | nevcairiel | there was some political drama, and some developers forked into libav |
| 04:57.36 | znf | I haven't bothered with "3rd party" video codecs ever since I started using XBMC exclusively |
| 04:59.09 | znf | nevcairiel, can I use LAV to encode, like ffdshow was able to do? |
| 04:59.20 | nevcairiel | no, i only do decoders |
| 05:00.01 | znf | Is there any free H264 directshow encoder? |
| 05:00.09 | znf | or VFW, however it's called |
| 05:00.20 | nevcairiel | i dunno, maybe h264vfw still works |
| 05:00.25 | znf | I can only find x264 which seems to only come in binary form |
| 05:00.35 | nevcairiel | or x264vfw rather |
| 05:00.45 | znf | or, do people still use virtualdub for basic video processing? |
| 05:01.20 | nevcairiel | no idea, i never really did much encoding |
| 05:01.29 | nevcairiel | i would probably just use avisynth and x264 directly |
| 05:01.34 | nevcairiel | no vfw or other stuff |
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| 05:01.50 | znf | Never managed to understand avisynth scripts |
| 05:02.05 | nevcairiel | anyway, x264vfw seems to still be alive |
| 05:02.42 | znf | Now if they could make virtualdub to use modern containers... |
| 05:03.33 | znf | Seems that my best solution to simple encoding is still VLC :-/ |
| 05:03.36 | znf | Thanks for the info |
| 05:04.16 | nevcairiel | there are plenty of tools that wrap the encoders and muxers, if you just want some simple tool, like HandBrake |
| 05:05.41 | znf | that looks interesting |
| 05:08.08 | znf | that's almost what I want, nice |
| 05:08.59 | znf | I way to "cut" videos would have been nice (like you can set in/out points in VirtualDub), but this will have to do |
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| 05:10.10 | durcyn | you can do cuts decently in gpac |
| 05:10.50 | znf | mumbles something about open source projects not having screenshots |
| 05:12.23 | durcyn | it's CLI =P |
| 05:12.40 | znf | ow :-/ |
| 05:12.56 | znf | meh, I have ffmpeg for that... |
| 05:13.31 | durcyn | ffmpeg's obonoxious for direct stream copy to a new container type, hence gpac/mp4box |
| 05:13.53 | durcyn | since for some reason people still use matroska containers |
| 05:13.56 | znf | yeah, I had issues trying to copy from an .mp4 to an .mkv, direct stream |
| 05:14.18 | znf | well, "scene" releases still come in .mkv |
| 05:14.54 | znf | heck, I still use .mov for MJPEG content |
| 05:16.02 | durcyn | isn't that the same as an ISO MPEG4 container these days, i thought apple donated quicktime containers to the MPEG-LA for it |
| 05:16.30 | znf | afaik the MP4 container is based on MOV |
| 05:16.32 | nevcairiel | mov still has some differences |
| 05:16.48 | znf | mp4 is supposed to be some sort of "evolution" of mov from what I read |
| 05:17.08 | znf | (mkv seems to have originated from apple's mov concept, too) |
| 05:17.17 | znf | ofcourse, I could totally be wrong :P |
| 05:17.47 | nevcairiel | mkv is completely separate, although no-one knows where the developers got their inspiration |
| 05:18.42 | durcyn | one can assume based on the results, from a visual inspection of their own prostates |
| 05:19.02 | znf | always thought it was inspired from apple's MOV, mostly because of their multi-stream support |
| 05:19.30 | znf | but I don't know much about containers |
| 05:20.25 | znf | durcyn, people probably still use mkv because it's open standard / free |
| 05:20.54 | durcyn | fanatical scene people use it specifically because it explicity supports multiple audio and subtitle streams |
| 05:21.15 | durcyn | even though you can stuff text into mp4 containers too |
| 05:21.24 | znf | mp4 supports the same, I guess? |
| 05:21.36 | nevcairiel | mp4 is a horrible format internally, i much rather stick to mkv, eventhough its not perfect either |
| 05:21.56 | znf | from what I read, mp4 can support lots of stuff, even stuff it wasn't made for? |
| 05:22.12 | durcyn | none of the playback devices i use deal with mkv containers, so i'm stuck transcoding |
| 05:22.22 | durcyn | and even in software the overhead seems higher |
| 05:22.28 | durcyn | well, not "even" |
| 05:22.42 | znf | Get better playback devices? :P |
| 05:22.54 | durcyn | i'll give 'em this though, it's not ogg |
| 05:23.05 | znf | Most devices I've seen (that are not made by "popular" manufacturers) seem to support MKV |
| 05:23.24 | znf | Philips, Panasonic, Sony etc. don't seem to support MKVs |
| 05:23.27 | durcyn | you want to transcode 10 terabytes for me? |
| 05:23.33 | znf | My LG tv does, though |
| 05:23.36 | nevcairiel | overhead on what, cpu usage or space? |
| 05:23.42 | durcyn | cpu |
| 05:23.57 | nevcairiel | if you can measure the cpu usage of the demuxer in contrast to the decoder running at the same time, you're crazy =P |
| 05:24.12 | znf | Even a monitor I bought once, a BenQ with USB port, had MKV support |
| 05:24.16 | Elmoe | yeah I'm not sure how demuxing would use any appreciable amount of cpu |
| 05:24.23 | znf | So I'm wondering what device you have that doesn't support mkv :> |
| 05:24.32 | Elmoe | and you can repack your existing audio and video streams from a mp4 to mkv container or vice versa extremely quickly |
| 05:24.40 | nevcairiel | IO bound, really |
| 05:24.44 | Elmoe | I do this all the time just to standardize my collection into mkv |
| 05:25.09 | Elmoe | could out mkvtoolnix if you haven't already has all the clis for muxing easily |
| 05:25.15 | Elmoe | er check out |
| 05:25.36 | durcyn | i already use mkvtoolnix to demux mkvs so i can remux into mpeg4 containers, i'm your opposite =P |
| 05:25.57 | znf | durcyn, but seriously, what device(s) are you using that don't support mkv? |
| 05:26.11 | nevcairiel | probably some apple device :P |
| 05:26.11 | Elmoe | you find that process a pain in the ass though? I just run a script and it doesn't take long at all (I reencode aac audio into ac3 at the same time too) |
| 05:26.13 | durcyn | surely you can guess |
| 05:26.17 | durcyn | Elmoe: it's cron'd |
| 05:26.22 | znf | really? :( |
| 05:26.23 | znf | apple? :( |
| 05:27.03 | znf | granted, I don't really care in what format my media comes in, but I'm glad the scene got rid of .avi |
| 05:27.08 | Elmoe | running a wdtv live w/ wdlxtv firmware myself, best support for different formats I have found in a device but the horsepower of the wdtv is pretty laughable now |
| 05:27.30 | znf | I'm so tempted to buy a RPi |
| 05:27.42 | durcyn | i tried just having a flat filesystem and an xbmc front end, but one box running with itunes as a server and appletvs as streaming clients is seamless |
| 05:27.53 | durcyn | kill me if i ever actually buy content from them |
| 05:27.58 | nevcairiel | Dont buy the RPi if you want it as a media center, its severly limited in its capabilities there |
| 05:28.02 | znf | ATV or ATV2? |
| 05:28.08 | znf | nevcairiel, how come? |
| 05:28.08 | durcyn | some of each |
| 05:28.21 | durcyn | and for an STB, why not just get a roku? |
| 05:28.38 | znf | Elmoe, isn't the UI horrible on all those media thingies? |
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| 05:28.46 | nevcairiel | znf: the CPU can get maxed out just by decoding HD audio streams, and the hardware video decoder is limited to H264, so even some old MPEG2 file wouldn't play |
| 05:28.56 | nevcairiel | or a divx file, for hat matter |
| 05:29.17 | znf | After I've used XBMC for so long on lots of stuff, whenever I see those bad UIs on hardware media players I cringe |
| 05:29.21 | Elmoe | znf: nah not at all, supports titlesheets and all that jazz |
| 05:29.45 | Elmoe | xbmc has a nice ui but a total lack of a good plugin infrastructure for things like youtube |
| 05:29.46 | znf | nevcairiel, I see, someone said that it handles mpeg4 asp just fine (I assumed both xvid and divx) |
| 05:29.59 | znf | huh? what do you mean? I find the youtube plugin quite nice? |
| 05:30.08 | nevcairiel | the cpu may be fast enough for some low-res content, but i wouldnt bet on it really |
| 05:30.26 | nevcairiel | well at least you dont loose much money if you give it a shot |
| 05:30.37 | Elmoe | znf: maybe I just didn't play with it enough but it was basically just a title browser, no nice previews or anything |
| 05:30.37 | grokse | i like the job boxee does indexing video files, but it does randomly struggle with certain h.264 streams |
| 05:30.56 | grokse | gets through a 1080p file fine but then can't handle a 720p one |
| 05:30.56 | znf | meh, it would cost me around 100€ with shipping and a case to get it here in romania |
| 05:30.57 | grokse | random |
| 05:31.12 | znf | wasn't boxee discontinued for PCs? |
| 05:31.28 | nevcairiel | boxee comes with hardware now, doesn it |
| 05:31.34 | znf | Yeah |
| 05:31.42 | znf | That little box was so much promising |
| 05:31.50 | grokse | ya, it was like $140 on amazon |
| 05:31.52 | znf | Then they went to shit |
| 05:32.02 | Elmoe | durcyn: the roku sucks btw, you need to run a special channel roksbox to even stream custom media |
| 05:32.27 | znf | the boxee is 236€ here |
| 05:32.30 | znf | screw that |
| 05:32.42 | Elmoe | znf: for that price you could just build a foxxconn custom xmbc frontend |
| 05:32.47 | znf | Elmoe, indeed |
| 05:32.48 | grokse | :( |
| 05:32.55 | grokse | yarly |
| 05:33.04 | znf | I really loved the 1st gen ATV |
| 05:33.11 | znf | Wish I could have gotten my hands on a cheap one |
| 05:33.29 | Elmoe | I'd love a foxxconn just for the extra horsepower (my only real complaint about wdtv with the open firmware) but I can't rationalize the expense |
| 05:33.32 | znf | I even have a broadcomm crystal hd decoder around the house that I could "transplant" to :P |
| 05:34.05 | znf | but apple hardware is retardadly expensive, even 3rd hand... |
| 05:34.50 | durcyn | znf: hm, i actually have one i loaned out and could probably get back, but i'm not paying international shipping |
| 05:35.03 | znf | where you from? :P |
| 05:35.11 | durcyn | the states |
| 05:35.20 | znf | ouch, that would cost me shitloads in custom fees, too |
| 05:35.54 | znf | nevermind the fear that it wouldn't ever arrive due to our shitty postal service |
| 05:36.31 | znf | durcyn, how are you using them, btw? |
| 05:36.41 | znf | did you replace the wifi with an hd decoder? |
| 05:36.54 | znf | or just doing SD content? |
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| 05:50.51 | grokse | wow, there are $99 ivy bridge chips? |
| 05:51.32 | grokse | would still have to find decent software for an htpc though :/ |
| 05:52.51 | znf | XBMC |
| 05:53.13 | nebula169 | wish they would integrate dsplayer into xbmc already |
| 05:53.32 | znf | dsplayer? |
| 05:53.39 | znf | sounds familiar |
| 05:53.49 | nebula169 | it uses directshow to render video |
| 05:53.51 | znf | why would you want directshow? |
| 05:53.57 | grokse | i tried xbmc like a year ago, but it didn't do a good job figuring out my collection |
| 05:54.11 | nebula169 | because their builtin player chokes on some 1080p video |
| 05:54.18 | znf | I haven't found anything that XBMC couldn't handle |
| 05:54.26 | nebula169 | my box is a bit older |
| 05:54.29 | durcyn | znf: mostly just atv2s, they do 720p h264 already |
| 05:54.33 | nebula169 | run perfect using directshow, though |
| 05:55.00 | durcyn | znf: for the braodcom card, there's only one slot, so you better have ethernet |
| 05:55.03 | znf | I only tried to run that software codec using dsplayer, that did h264 with minimum cpu-usage |
| 05:55.12 | znf | damn if I can remember it's name |
| 05:56.22 | znf | CoreAVC |
| 05:57.26 | znf | nebula169, but doesn't your box do DXVA? |
| 05:57.53 | znf | grokse, it didn't index it properly? |
| 05:58.30 | nebula169 | i use my old laptop, heat expansion has made the video card pretty touchy so i have to leave dvxa and cuda off ;[ |
| 05:59.25 | znf | Do you use the wifi on it? |
| 05:59.37 | znf | also, what platform? linux or windows? |
| 05:59.39 | nebula169 | nah, gigabit port |
| 05:59.42 | nebula169 | windows |
| 06:00.05 | znf | I found out that most laptops fail the dpc latency check when used over wifi :-/ |
| 06:00.14 | znf | thus real-time decoding of 1080 sometime fails badly |
| 06:00.16 | nevcairiel | wifi drivers are usually just bad |
| 06:00.32 | znf | terrible, in fact |
| 06:00.37 | znf | nebula169, http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml |
| 06:00.41 | znf | run this when you get the time |
| 06:01.00 | Elmoe | yeah I wired my whole house for gigabit, never trust wifi for something heavy duty like streaming 1080 3d |
| 06:01.10 | nebula169 | will do |
| 06:01.10 | grokse | same as Elmoe |
| 06:01.19 | znf | And if you have problems with your laptop getting hot while doing CPU, just buy one of those broadcomm crystal hd decoders |
| 06:01.23 | znf | they're like $12 |
| 06:01.46 | znf | replace the wifi card with it (as most laptops only have 1 mini-pci-e slots) |
| 06:02.02 | znf | I did that with my old laptop and it worked awesome |
| 06:02.12 | nebula169 | i have another for a bluetooth card i took out |
| 06:02.20 | nebula169 | so sounds like an amazing idea |
| 06:02.21 | znf | 1080p support without breaking a sweat |
| 06:02.33 | znf | http://www.ebay.com/itm/Broadcom-BCM70012-BCM970012-BCM70010-Crystal-HD-Video-Decoder-AW-VD904-AZUREWAVE-/320951258506?_trksid=p5197.m1997&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D16%26meid%3D1893637529352720020%26pid%3D100016%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26 |
| 06:03.37 | znf | Even my new laptop is doing horribly on 1080p content with wifi enabled |
| 06:03.46 | Elmoe | you can easily run hdmi over cat6 as well, so if you have an old dekstop to use as a htpc it doesn't need to be in the same room as your tv |
| 06:04.05 | grokse | has to be cat6? |
| 06:04.07 | znf | it's not that the wifi can't handle the data, but it simply "hangs" the system due to the drivers being shitty :-/ |
| 06:04.15 | znf | Elmoe, don't you need an active converter? |
| 06:04.31 | Elmoe | grokse: I was wiring my whole house with cat6 so I just ran that for the hdmi, assume it would work just fine with cat5 just shorter distance |
| 06:04.34 | nevcairiel | grokse: 5e also works, just need gigiabit |
| 06:04.39 | grokse | ah, kk |
| 06:04.43 | Elmoe | znf: yeah they are cheap thought (at least in the US) |
| 06:04.45 | znf | just need to have all 8 wires full-copper |
| 06:04.57 | nebula169 | i have everthing on the other side of the wall where the tv is and have a rack with all the components with an ir blaster run with the cords |
| 06:05.07 | znf | cheap UTP cable doesn't usually come full-copper |
| 06:05.14 | grokse | i wired with cat5e. just wish that i'd done two outlets per room instead of one |
| 06:05.38 | nevcairiel | znf: cat5e are full copper, but with cheap UTP the lack of shielding will destroy the signal on anything > 30m or so |
| 06:05.41 | znf | they have 4 wires copper and the other 4 (the ones that aren't used for 100mbit) being an alloy that is shit for anything |
| 06:05.47 | Elmoe | grokse: yeah I did 2 outlets per bedroom, then 4 in the office and 8 to the living room, better to run more while you are at it hah |
| 06:05.49 | znf | nevcairiel, I know |
| 06:05.59 | znf | I had a "small" scale ISP here :P |
| 06:06.13 | grokse | they charged my $50 per outlet when they built my house |
| 06:06.17 | znf | About ~2km of UTP cable from building to building |
| 06:06.28 | grokse | in retrospect, another $250 isn't much |
| 06:06.29 | grokse | :/ |
| 06:06.42 | Elmoe | grokse: yeah not in terms of building a house haha |
| 06:06.43 | znf | $50 for outlets sounds silly expensive tbh just for that |
| 06:06.47 | nebula169 | its pretty easy to run your own wire |
| 06:06.49 | Elmoe | grokse: I just bought a place and wired it myself |
| 06:06.58 | Elmoe | nebula169: yeah just takes time |
| 06:07.01 | znf | but yeah, in comparision with the costs of building a house... |
| 06:07.02 | nebula169 | yea |
| 06:07.04 | grokse | i've wired up a few houses |
| 06:07.16 | grokse | but most of the outlets are on exterior walls |
| 06:07.22 | nebula169 | ew |
| 06:07.26 | grokse | i don't want to screw up the insulation |
| 06:07.34 | znf | Elmoe, I usually dislike active converters, I have this irrational fear that they'll mess with my signal :P |
| 06:07.51 | Elmoe | I have a little 8U rack in the office closet for the patch panel, switch, etc. but for htpc I just use the hdmi output from my second gpu |
| 06:08.05 | nevcairiel | znf: its a digital signal, it doesnt degrade :p |
| 06:08.11 | znf | nevcairiel, I know! |
| 06:08.15 | Elmoe | but I really just use htpc for video games and backup to my wdtv in case it barfs on a file |
| 06:08.34 | znf | I just use my main pc now :P |
| 06:08.40 | grokse | would have also been smart to ask them to be on interior walls, especially since they called me the day they were doing the wiring to find out EXACTLY where i wanted them |
| 06:08.41 | grokse | :/ |
| 06:08.42 | znf | I retired my old Xbox a few years ago :D |
| 06:08.57 | znf | poor thing handled SD content just fine :P |
| 06:09.11 | Elmoe | znf: I took a cable of the hdmi converter but they were cheap and have worked flawlessly thus far |
| 06:09.16 | Elmoe | er I took a gamble that is |
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| 06:10.18 | Elmoe | what I've been having trouble with is just the normal old hdmi keystones |
| 06:10.26 | Elmoe | I've tried 2 different keystones now and both are flaky as hell |
| 06:10.33 | grokse | :( |
| 06:11.25 | grokse | gross, the cable just plugs into the back? |
| 06:11.30 | znf | keystones? |
| 06:11.36 | grokse | no punchdown or anything? |
| 06:11.42 | Elmoe | znf: you know like for a keystone wall plate |
| 06:12.03 | Elmoe | grokse: yeah I've just been getting the ones you plug in, do they sell punch down types? |
| 06:12.10 | Elmoe | that would be better (although a bitch) |
| 06:12.14 | grokse | that's what i was looking for |
| 06:12.39 | Elmoe | the hdmi and usb keystones I've found are all just plug in type, which is kinda ghetto but you can use some electrical tape |
| 06:12.46 | znf | no idea what those are |
| 06:12.50 | grokse | retches |
| 06:12.53 | Elmoe | znf: yeah you do let me find a pic |
| 06:13.10 | grokse | you know, the little things that snap into rectangular holes in a wall plate |
| 06:13.11 | Elmoe | http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10426&cs_id=1042609&p_id=6853&seq=1&format=2 |
| 06:13.46 | znf | oh, ok |
| 06:13.47 | znf | I got it |
| 06:21.17 | Corveroth | Miss chance... I know it's now 15% for a boss, is it just a linear 5%/level? |
| 06:22.02 | durcyn | it's 12% for same level, 15% for +3 |
| 06:22.17 | znf | huh? |
| 06:22.23 | znf | it's 5% for same-level |
| 06:24.06 | durcyn | huh, where'd i hear 12 |
| 06:25.48 | znf | 12% for lvl87 (ie: dungeon bosses) |
| 06:25.56 | znf | so +2 levels |
| 06:26.18 | Corveroth | That's... not linear at all. Wat. |
| 06:26.31 | Corveroth | grumbles. |
| 06:26.42 | znf | 5% for same level, 12% for +2 levels, 15% for +3 levels |
| 06:26.44 | Corveroth | Blizz and their funny numbers. The rating scaling for crit at 90 was bad enough, now. |
| 06:26.49 | grokse | installs wow |
| 06:27.12 | nevcairiel | linear is boring, logarithmic or exponential scales is where its at! |
| 06:27.16 | durcyn | first step being +4 and second two being +3 doesn't make sense |
| 06:27.18 | Corveroth | All the other ratings played nice! Plug 42.5 into the old formulas, you got the new ratios! |
| 06:27.29 | znf | dunno why do they even care about +1 levels |
| 06:27.30 | Corveroth | But Crit, nooooo. Crit's all "I'm gonna be 42.857bullshit" |
| 06:27.42 | znf | I mean, what exactly would you gear for +1 level? :-? |
| 06:27.51 | Corveroth | Why couldn't hte ratio have been 595? It would've been perfect! WHY 600? |
| 06:27.59 | Corveroth | ... I'm done now. |
| 06:28.03 | quiescens | moo |
| 06:28.09 | nevcairiel | 600 is a much nicer number then 595 |
| 06:28.18 | durcyn | znf: well, my character sheet is showing 5.56% hit chance, .44% miss chance against 85 |
| 06:28.20 | Corveroth | But. It. Doesn't. Match. |
| 06:28.26 | grokse | slaughters quiescens and has quiescens steaks for dinner |
| 06:28.27 | durcyn | znf: so i think it's 6+3+3+3 ? |
| 06:28.34 | znf | Hmmm |
| 06:28.36 | znf | you draenai? |
| 06:28.40 | durcyn | tauren |
| 06:28.45 | znf | Weird |
| 06:28.51 | Corveroth | I like the 3%/level idea. |
| 06:29.07 | znf | makes more sense, but I wonder why did they change that |
| 06:29.12 | nevcairiel | 6% base and 3% per level makes some sense, i guess |
| 06:29.13 | quiescens | dies. |
| 06:29.14 | znf | and how does it make sense for it to be 6% |
| 06:29.22 | znf | (when previously it was 5%) |
| 06:29.24 | Corveroth | Magic numbers. |
| 06:29.49 | Corveroth | Wait a tick. |
| 06:29.57 | znf | I mean, you start from 5% == same level, you reduce the overall hit% for +3 levels, but you increase the % for same level? |
| 06:30.06 | Corveroth | Nude, character sheet says 5/8/11/14. |
| 06:30.12 | Corveroth | But... but I though. |
| 06:30.21 | Corveroth | Wasn't it supposed to be 7.5+7.5 = 15%? |
| 06:30.42 | durcyn | znf: http://i.imgur.com/Fnk34.png |
| 06:30.51 | durcyn | i'm looking at spell hit, not sure about physical |
| 06:31.08 | znf | where's that .76% coming from? |
| 06:31.20 | znf | you only have 4.76% hit rating on your gear |
| 06:31.24 | Corveroth | Alright. Whatever. Magic numbers go in. Forget the rational. |
| 06:31.29 | durcyn | i know! |
| 06:31.40 | znf | erm, 0.8 not 0.76% |
| 06:32.05 | durcyn | it's a feral druid, shouldn't be any weird spell hit passives |
| 06:32.55 | znf | ogs on |
| 06:34.11 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/dvMj0.png |
| 06:35.05 | znf | Melee is different |
| 06:35.24 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/DKNuN.png |
| 06:35.42 | znf | (but melee also needs exp) |
| 06:35.47 | durcyn | yes, it's exactly half for all physical |
| 06:35.49 | End_ | help I'm losing my mind |
| 06:36.00 | durcyn | i just want to know where that extra .8% came from |
| 06:37.17 | oscarucb | its from your racial expertise |
| 06:37.23 | oscarucb | converted to hit |
| 06:37.32 | znf | what race are you? |
| 06:38.02 | durcyn | i said tauren, it's an alt so i don't really pay attention to racials, derp |
| 06:38.23 | znf | oh, sorry, |
| 06:38.34 | durcyn | mystery solved i guess |
| 06:38.50 | znf | since when do tauren get expertise racial? >_< |
| 06:38.59 | Corveroth | Oh, frig. Racial expertise... that's the missing 1% in the hit numbers. |
| 06:39.10 | Corveroth | Orc mage has 1% baseline expertise. |
| 06:39.14 | znf | Orcs, yes |
| 06:39.20 | znf | but Taurens don't have exp |
| 06:40.23 | grokse | heh, angelic feather is fun |
| 06:40.52 | znf | meh |
| 06:41.00 | znf | I took Phantasm |
| 06:41.18 | quiescens | why? |
| 06:41.20 | grokse | i'm just running around putting feathers on the ground |
| 06:41.31 | znf | I always liked Phantasm as a talent :P |
| 06:41.52 | znf | quiescens, also, you have no idea what we're talking about |
| 06:41.54 | znf | so go moo |
| 06:42.16 | quiescens | moo |
| 06:42.17 | quiescens | ): |
| 06:42.43 | durcyn | feather's so much more fun than phantasm :| |
| 06:44.12 | znf | 3 charges, boring |
| 06:47.16 | oscarucb | that's actually pretty OP that expertise racials now give dps casters spell hit |
| 06:47.21 | oscarucb | wonder if that was intentional |
| 06:47.54 | znf | well, EXP acts as hit |
| 06:48.10 | oscarucb | yea its just those racials never did anything for warlocks and mages before |
| 06:48.12 | znf | but as of racial, sounds weird tbh :P |
| 06:48.35 | Corveroth | My concern... how do I detect if those are active? |
| 06:48.42 | Corveroth | 'cause GetCombatRating ain't gonna cut it. |
| 06:48.45 | oscarucb | check the weapon type |
| 06:48.48 | oscarucb | and the race |
| 06:48.49 | znf | @project my-little-companion |
| 06:48.52 | znf | o.o |
| 06:48.53 | Corveroth | blugh |
| 06:49.01 | znf | where did repo go? |
| 06:49.01 | Corveroth | Also, blugh. |
| 06:49.09 | oscarucb | but GetCombatRating is the wrong thing to call anyhow |
| 06:49.51 | znf | well, shit |
| 06:49.54 | znf | 9:49am |
| 06:49.57 | znf | I should go to sleep >_< |
| 06:49.58 | oscarucb | GetSpellMissChance(), GetRangedMissChance(), GetMeleeMissChance(), GetEnemyDodgeChance() |
| 06:50.06 | oscarucb | ^ those include the racial, and everything else as well |
| 06:51.14 | oscarucb | or you can query the racial directly with GetSpellHitModifier() |
| 06:52.06 | Corveroth | Oh. Well then. That's quite convenient. |
| 06:52.11 | Corveroth | Thanks =) |
| 06:52.33 | oscarucb | strangely the racial gives a human warlock expertise and SPELL hit, but NOT melee hit |
| 06:52.38 | oscarucb | thats just bizzare |
| 06:52.53 | nevcairiel | what does a warlock need melee hit for |
| 06:52.59 | znf | EXP == Spirit == Spell Hit |
| 06:53.03 | oscarucb | they dont, but it makes me think this is a bug |
| 06:53.11 | znf | It's not a bug |
| 06:53.20 | znf | if you reforge stats to EXP on your toon, you get spell hit |
| 06:53.48 | oscarucb | meh I'm just happy I get a free 1% spell hit for using a caster sword now |
| 06:53.56 | znf | interesting :P |
| 06:54.03 | znf | but that sounds OP |
| 06:54.08 | Corveroth | I think the idea there was to make it so that melee with some spell damage (DKs, for example) automatically reach spell hit cap |
| 06:54.15 | Corveroth | By gearing expertise to the dodge cap |
| 06:54.29 | oscarucb | yea which is why its weird they also buffed casters as a side effect |
| 06:54.32 | znf | I think they fucked up and forgot that some racials give EXP |
| 06:54.58 | Corveroth | Yeah, just a quirky side effect. Not a ton of use, except trying to game racials. |
| 06:55.13 | znf | well, 1% is a lot of rating... |
| 06:55.15 | Corveroth | Or I guess reforging extra "hit" onto gear that already has it? |
| 06:55.24 | oscarucb | 1% hit is alot - it may make or break my choice between two similar caster weapons |
| 06:55.37 | znf | I'm guessing they'll change it soon |
| 06:55.41 | znf | else it's way too OP |
| 06:55.46 | znf | anyway, almost 10am I should go to sleep |
| 06:55.47 | znf | .o/ |
| 06:56.08 | oscarucb | yea im off too, latez |
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| 07:08.35 | Dridzt | mainly want to know if I can refresh submenus without closing the dropdown :P |
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| 14:43.33 | kagaro | anyone know why the sufwrapper frame stays visible on screen? |
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| 14:44.31 | nevcairiel | the whatnow? |
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| 14:44.52 | kagaro | there is a box on my screen stack says SUFWrapperFrame |
| 14:46.36 | kagaro | nvm found it |
| 14:47.25 | bluspacecow | it missed |
| 14:47.27 | bluspacecow | you |
| 14:47.31 | bluspacecow | so was like |
| 14:47.35 | bluspacecow | "oh hai" |
| 14:47.39 | kagaro | its for pet battle frames which aren't on live |
| 14:47.42 | quiescens | o.o |
| 14:47.45 | quiescens | go to sleep blu |
| 14:47.56 | bluspacecow | *sleeps on quiescens* |
| 14:48.01 | quiescens | ): |
| 14:48.04 | bluspacecow | *drools in sleep* |
| 14:48.13 | bluspacecow | *sleeply bats quiescens hair* |
| 14:48.18 | quiescens | dies. |
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| 15:00.22 | Stanzilla | kagaro: I once thought that thing is stealing my clicks |
| 15:02.51 | quiescens | gasp |
| 15:02.54 | quiescens | steal them back |
| 15:03.38 | kagaro | well i can't get rid of it, so I'm just ignoring it |
| 15:03.57 | Stanzilla | kagaro: is it "I fix a chatter bug today"- day today? |
| 15:04.24 | kagaro | maybe |
| 15:04.53 | Stanzilla | coolio |
| 15:07.37 | kagaro | any one in particular Stanzilla? |
| 15:09.39 | Stanzilla | kagaro: this one is still the most annoying for me http://www.wowace.com/addons/chatter/tickets/226-copy-chat-highlighted-text-not-alligned/ |
| 15:09.43 | Stanzilla | and I still blame icons in chat lines |
| 15:25.42 | kagaro | ill take a look some time today stan I'm rebidding my ui for the most part today |
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| 16:26.39 | ice | Ackis, there? |
| 16:26.51 | ice | Torhal, there? |
| 16:27.42 | ice | Just a few issues with Collectinator's "db" I'd like to report. |
| 16:28.30 | ice | Enchanted Lantern: shows for me as a missing pet despite the fact I have it. |
| 16:28.36 | bluspacecow | sleep tiems |
| 16:29.06 | ice | Frigid Frostling: shows as missing pet as well despite the fact I have it. |
| 16:29.42 | znf | ice, you're probably better making a ticket at this hour |
| 16:29.50 | ice | Guild Herald: shows as missing pet as well despite the fact I have it. This one could be due to the fact the pet is greyed in the new pets UI pane as it isn't a pet that can battle. |
| 16:31.08 | ice | Soul of Aspects: shows a misding pet as well despite the fact I have it. This one could be a bug on Blizzard's end, I have the pet but no matter what I do I can't summon it. |
| 16:31.19 | ice | s/misding/missing |
| 16:32.38 | ice | So yeah, at least 4 pets have issues; Enchanted Lantern, Frigid Frostling, Guild Herald and Soul of Aspects. |
| 16:33.17 | ice | Oh and one mount has an issue. |
| 16:33.28 | ice | Frosty Flying Carpet. |
| 16:34.02 | ice | Probably because once learnt, the mount spell name is Magnificent Flying Carpet. |
| 16:34.54 | ice | Or could be a completly different mount. |
| 16:35.28 | ice | Actually nevermind, the Frosty isn't the Magnificent. |
| 16:35.35 | ice | I'm just missing it it seems. |
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| 16:50.28 | End_ | ice: ackis is rewriting it |
| 16:51.04 | ice | End_, I know. |
| 16:51.10 | End_ | oh ok then |
| 16:51.14 | ice | Just reporting 4 fast bugs easy to fix. |
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| 17:07.42 | pompy | ice, you can file a ticket with detailed understandable information! |
| 17:29.02 | ice | pompy, I'm old school... IRC > all. |
| 17:31.08 | pompy | cool story bro |
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| 17:41.09 | ashemedai | waaaaaaa |
| 17:53.57 | ashemedai | lights quiescens on fire and tosses him in front of Torhal's door |
| 18:02.29 | Megalon | hey Torhal, nice porch flare you got there |
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| 18:06.46 | ashemedai | Woops, forgot to ring the doorbell |
| 18:10.19 | ashemedai | oh awesome, first reward tier unlocked on the XCOM preorder on steam XD |
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| 18:21.05 | durcyn | Stanzilla: every day is chatter bug day lately |
| 18:21.15 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 18:21.49 | durcyn | and where the hell is Repo, ping Kaelten pingpingpingping ping |
| 18:24.12 | Dark_Elf | u mean chatter still works? |
| 18:25.02 | pompy | durcyn: iknorite |
| 18:25.17 | durcyn | Dark_Elf: mostly |
| 18:25.49 | Dark_Elf | i will test it today then lol |
| 18:25.54 | durcyn | i don't think it's had a release tag in a while though |
| 18:29.25 | pompy | ERROR #134 (0x85100086) Fatal condition! |
| 18:29.25 | pompy | Failed to read file from local. |
| 18:29.27 | pompy | >< |
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| 18:31.43 | Repo | collectinator: 03Ackis 072.0 * 1.1.1-43-g4648678 / (6 files in 2 directories): [+5 commits] (1 truncated) |
| 18:31.44 | Repo | 4648678: Add a few entries to the database for testing. |
| 18:31.44 | Repo | 58dfa12: Add the database files. |
| 18:31.45 | Repo | 3f9cb74: Fix display string. |
| 18:31.45 | Repo | f51f689: Fix some collection stuff. |
| 18:32.10 | ashemedai | Scary |
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| 18:34.04 | pompy | ok so why is my client crashing when trying to log into an alliance character |
| 18:35.00 | Megalon | stop playing alniance palydan! |
| 18:37.45 | Repo | collectinator: 03Ackis 072.0 * 1.1.1-44-g79dcc26 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Set up the db and the code so it should be scanning. It's getting stuck on InitCollections though. |
| 18:56.32 | Repo | arl: 03pompachomp 07master * 2.4-41-gcad1cf8 Database/Recipes/Engineering.lua: [+1 commit] manually revert the recent changes to engineering db file |
| 19:07.47 | Repo | whats-today: 03dearna * r12 WhatsUpToday.lua: proper use of GetGossipAvailableQuests() |
| 19:08.04 | znf | clearly, alliance being bad |
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| 19:15.23 | Stanzilla | woho repo is back |
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| 19:17.35 | znf | hi Repo |
| 19:17.37 | znf | what's up? |
| 19:17.46 | znf | @project my-little-companion |
| 19:17.47 | Repo | znf: [WoW] My Little Companion (Updated Sep 04, 2012 at 12:18 UTC) - http://www.curseforge.com/addons/my-little-companion/ |
| 19:20.07 | Dark_Elf | is that like my little pony lol |
| 19:20.44 | znf | guess so |
| 19:21.05 | Dark_Elf | lol |
| 19:28.02 | ashemedai | battle bronies |
| 19:29.37 | Dark_Elf | saw a battle pet trainer yesterday while playing, clicked on it but it dont do anything, guess it not totally active yet |
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| 19:34.26 | nevcairiel | battle pets come with mop |
| 19:34.40 | silentium | you'll be able to learn the Battle Pet Training once MoP goes live, you won't even need the expansion on your account to do that |
| 19:35.03 | znf | huh? |
| 19:35.06 | znf | I'm pretty sure you will need the expansion |
| 19:35.24 | silentium | they explicitly stated that you wont need it |
| 19:35.34 | znf | Where? |
| 19:35.39 | silentium | but who knows, maybe they've already changed that again |
| 19:35.53 | znf | I'm 99.99% sure you will need MoP for pet battles |
| 19:35.59 | znf | you won't need it to play a panda |
| 19:36.36 | Kemayo | http://wow.joystiq.com/2012/07/24/mists-of-pandaria-not-required-for-pet-battles/ |
| 19:36.38 | mckenziemc | humans cannot quantify certainty down to the level of hundred millionths |
| 19:38.22 | Dark_Elf | guess that link answered that |
| 19:38.38 | silentium | thanks Kemayo, I couldnt find my source that fast any more |
| 19:43.46 | znf | I have my doubts |
| 19:44.34 | znf | Fuckin' rogues are unkillable in pvp... |
| 19:44.48 | Dark_Elf | what? |
| 19:45.04 | znf | I've been trying to kill this guy for ages |
| 19:45.08 | znf | and he keeps escaping with like 2 hp |
| 19:45.19 | Dark_Elf | i seldom see them in wg any more |
| 19:45.33 | Dark_Elf | that vanish spell is nicer now |
| 19:46.12 | Dark_Elf | i usually play hunter and dont have problem with rogues , cause i mark their asses |
| 19:46.13 | znf | that vanish spell is complete bullshit |
| 19:46.29 | znf | he's about to die then poof, vanish, blind and goes the fuck away |
| 19:47.06 | Dark_Elf | i just wish they would of kept all the old spells we learn, cause i had shadowstep and now i gotta wait til later to get it again |
| 19:48.28 | Dark_Elf | i seen a rogue the other day use sap, and i was in combat, i thought sap only worked when not in combat guess blizzard needs to clarify that |
| 19:50.56 | Dark_Elf | another thing that annoys me is these priests that use fear, then u end up running all over the place then another character attacks u and fear is still applied which i think is bs |
| 19:51.26 | Dark_Elf | and oh dont get me started on the paladin, omg the stun is rediculus |
| 19:59.29 | znf | I'm annoyed by the fact that I can't fear warrriors that whirlwind |
| 19:59.34 | znf | what bullshit is that? |
| 19:59.46 | mckenziemc | bladestorm? |
| 19:59.50 | znf | whatever it's called |
| 20:04.20 | Repo | elkguild: 03elkano * r10 ElkGuild.lua: added column sorting (not saved, yet) |
| 20:04.21 | Repo | added ArmoryChat support |
| 20:11.04 | durcyn | Elkano: more ebb, less everything else! =P |
| 20:11.15 | Elkano | :P |
| 20:11.56 | Stanzilla | znf: just disarm them, noob |
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| 20:14.24 | znf | Stanzilla, IMMUNE |
| 20:14.25 | znf | ... |
| 20:14.28 | znf | that's what I'm trying to say |
| 20:14.36 | znf | I can't use PH on them |
| 20:14.37 | mckenziemc | not to disarm |
| 20:14.42 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 20:14.51 | znf | PH is a disarm & fear |
| 20:14.59 | Stanzilla | znf: you can |
| 20:15.03 | mckenziemc | yeah, but i would think the disarm part would work |
| 20:15.13 | znf | seems they're immune to both :-/ |
| 20:15.14 | Stanzilla | what you can't is disarm while die by the sword is running |
| 20:15.17 | znf | while spinning around |
| 20:15.19 | Stanzilla | that are swirling blades around the warrior |
| 20:15.23 | znf | zzz |
| 20:15.29 | znf | why do I even bother pvping... |
| 20:15.54 | znf | at least I'm having fun with Spectral guise |
| 20:17.16 | Stanzilla | nooblet |
| 20:18.51 | znf | I was never into pvp |
| 20:20.48 | Realfriend | you pvp for a little while and have fun, then you take a break and forget about the frustration so you can go back |
| 20:21.17 | znf | wtf, I just 2-shot a druid |
| 20:21.33 | znf | DP with 3 orbs and MB and poof dead |
| 20:24.35 | Dark_Elf | must of been a noob druid |
| 20:26.12 | Repo | focus-interrupt-sounds: 03Talyrius * r72 FocusInterruptSounds.lua: FocusInterruptSounds: |
| 20:26.12 | Repo | - A leaked global is tainting the Glyphs frame |
| 20:27.05 | Stanzilla | durcyn: is chatter still tainting for you? |
| 20:27.20 | durcyn | no, thought i committed that fix |
| 20:27.35 | Stanzilla | well you did but it's still getting blamed here |
| 20:27.53 | durcyn | GlyphUI? |
| 20:27.59 | durcyn | it's probably a hook somewhere |
| 20:28.16 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 20:28.20 | durcyn | or chatter's your first alphabetical ace3 addon |
| 20:28.27 | durcyn | running embedded? |
| 20:28.31 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 20:28.40 | znf | ok, SWD is pissing me off |
| 20:28.50 | znf | it's activating way too late |
| 20:29.01 | durcyn | anything meaningful in taintlog? |
| 20:30.16 | Stanzilla | nah, got it turned off atm, will test later |
| 20:35.09 | znf | *ponders in buying pvp gear and gem full pvp power* |
| 20:35.35 | durcyn | waste of money for two weeks of use |
| 20:35.46 | znf | I have 22k justice points... |
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| 20:40.28 | ashemedai | Heh, they actually named the auctioneers in MoP H.A.R.V.E.Y. and D.E.N.T. |
| 20:45.21 | Dark_Elf | http://s903.photobucket.com/albums/ac231/DarkElf71/?action=view¤t=WoW163805cut.jpg - wonder if this would be worth uploading? |
| 20:48.26 | durcyn | nope |
| 20:48.35 | Dark_Elf | ok |
| 20:49.28 | Repo | head-count-2: 03kagaro 07master * 1.10-2-g05bcc76 / (5 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] added EJ data pull, this is dry coded |
| 20:50.12 | znf | -1000 internet points for you for using slowbucket.com |
| 20:50.57 | Dark_Elf | me sorry, it slow |
| 20:51.14 | Repo | vendorreward: 03mecdemort * r11 / (2 files in 1 directory): Bump toc for 5.0.4 |
| 21:00.59 | Repo | timetodie: 03mecdemort * r97 TimeToDie.toc: Bump toc to 5.0.3 |
| 21:03.44 | Repo | arcanecombopoints: 03mecdemort * r16 ArcaneComboPoints.toc: Bump toc to 5.0.3 |
| 21:05.59 | Repo | arcanecombopoints: 03mecdemort 04v1.6 * r17 : Tagging as v1.6 |
| 21:06.24 | Repo | timetodie: 03mecdemort 04v1.5 * r98 : Tagging as v1.5 |
| 21:06.50 | Repo | vendorreward: 03mecdemort 04v1.4 * r12 : Tagging as v1.4 |
| 21:07.50 | znf | @project vendorreward |
| 21:07.51 | Repo | znf: [WoW] VendorReward (Updated Sep 08, 2012 at 21:07 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/vendorreward/ |
| 21:08.16 | znf | now that's a useless addon now |
| 21:10.05 | Realfriend | I can see it being useful for someone who is doing LoreMaster and is going to vendor everything |
| 21:11.57 | Dark_Elf | sounds good, but i dont like autoturn ins |
| 21:12.27 | Realfriend | I remember an addon, maybe Scrap, that put a gold icon on the quest item that had the highest vendor value. That seems like a better solution to me. |
| 21:12.46 | Dark_Elf | yeah there is addons that do that |
| 21:13.39 | Dark_Elf | tekkub wrote vendorbait that does similar |
| 21:14.19 | znf | am I the only one who manually selected those? :( |
| 21:15.03 | Dark_Elf | i usually look see if there is item i can use, and if not that highlight tells me which one brings best money |
| 21:16.07 | Dark_Elf | perhaps another idea for addon would be to highlight an item that is better with a color then if not highlight an item with best sell price |
| 21:17.21 | Dark_Elf | although i think addon called pawn does that though so, guess all ideas have been done lol |
| 21:17.45 | Repo | head-count-2: 03kagaro 07master * 1.10-3-g2b18b1f Constants.lua: [+1 commit] added debug line |
| 21:18.30 | durcyn | Monomyth / OneChoice seem like better options for quest reward selection |
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| 21:24.50 | Dark_Elf | ok durcyn sold me on onechoice, skips monomyth though |
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| 21:32.01 | rljohn | hello all. i've resubbed to update an addon. how much has pandas ruined everything |
| 21:32.11 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 21:35.11 | Repo | heatsink: 03durcyn 07master * 50001-14-5-g47f2aad Heatsink.lua: [+1 commit] interrupt detection works, now show a bar for it |
| 21:36.02 | znf | rljohn, nothing much |
| 21:37.53 | rljohn | good |
| 21:38.28 | rljohn | because looking at this code is making present-day me hate 2010 me |
| 21:42.48 | Dark_Elf | what addon u updating rljohn? |
| 21:43.30 | rljohn | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/enraged |
| 21:44.02 | rljohn | gotta admit though, chilling in Orgimmar is making me debate about buying pandas |
| 21:44.15 | znf | wonder if that addons is still useful in some way |
| 21:44.37 | Dark_Elf | i bet it will err on first try on new patch |
| 21:45.10 | rljohn | i got a handful of posts and private messages, figured it was worth it |
| 21:47.07 | Dark_Elf | its aways worth it when u got others using it. although didnt really have to pay to play wow |
| 21:49.15 | rljohn | a friend wanted the resurrection scroll rewards, so it wasn't really a big deal |
| 21:51.29 | Gnarfoz | znf: I'm guessing there's some Amarande talk in between the lines? ^^ |
| 21:52.01 | mckenziemc | yes |
| 21:53.26 | rljohn | new login screen is pretty |
| 21:54.01 | rljohn | only 14 errors, could be worse >.> |
| 21:54.49 | mckenziemc | there will be more when you get those fixed :p |
| 21:55.39 | Dark_Elf | i liked cataclysms better |
| 21:57.48 | Dark_Elf | i think having horde and alliance pandas is gonna be a mess |
| 21:57.54 | Gnarfoz | order now and you too can give her multiple cataclysms |
| 21:58.42 | znf | yeah |
| 21:58.45 | sb | lol Stanzilla :P |
| 21:58.55 | Stanzilla | best ID eu |
| 21:59.02 | sb | nah, GC twitter thingy :p |
| 21:59.12 | Stanzilla | *idea |
| 22:00.34 | Repo | head-count-2: 03kagaro 07master * 1.10-4-g6681cef Constants.lua: [+1 commit] tested code on live, now loads all the bosses form the EJ |
| 22:01.12 | znf | Seriously |
| 22:01.19 | znf | I'm gonna go forum-nerd-rage soon if they don't fix this ASAP |
| 22:01.25 | Stanzilla | what |
| 22:01.38 | znf | the SWD activation |
| 22:01.57 | znf | target at 18? nope, can't use it... |
| 22:02.03 | Repo | head-count-2: 03kagaro 041.11 * d02d6f8 /: [new tag] 1.11 Mop Compat, now with EncounterJournal bosses with fallback to babble boss for older instances" |
| 22:07.01 | Stanzilla | yeah that is pretty annoying |
| 22:07.07 | Stanzilla | better tweet to gc znf |
| 22:09.42 | znf | tweets |
| 22:10.32 | znf | there! |
| 22:10.37 | mckenziemc | stabs |
| 22:29.36 | znf | sb, mkay, so |
| 22:29.55 | znf | it seems that PI is only better in *some* situations when you can actually use it multiple times |
| 22:30.21 | znf | else it fails badly behind DI |
| 22:34.38 | sb | oh okay, so you are also haste > crit > mastery |
| 22:34.56 | znf | yeah, I switched to that |
| 22:35.00 | znf | I'm not sure it's good so far |
| 22:35.14 | znf | I mean, mastery ticks can trigger DI/FDCL :-/ |
| 22:37.53 | Stanzilla | anyone with a warcraft movies premium account? |
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| 22:55.26 | Gnarfoz | I haven't been to WCM in 2 years : |
| 22:55.26 | Gnarfoz | :o |
| 22:58.42 | znf | I've never been to WCM |
| 22:58.44 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: they closed down all old videos to premium only -.-.- |
| 22:58.56 | znf | lame |
| 22:59.23 | Repo | glow-fo-sho: 03dridzt * r90 GlowFoSho.lua: - Fix chat handling. |
| 22:59.23 | Repo | - Remove chat hooks and use Filters properly. (should fix issues with duplicated chat messages) |
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| 23:07.17 | Repo | silver-dragon: 03Kemayo 07master * v2.6.3-15-g29420cc / (17 files in 4 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 23:07.18 | Repo | 29420cc: New tooltip handling: show on mob tooltip if it's an achievement mob, and give option to show the id in the tooltip (for help with manual alerts) |
| 23:07.18 | Repo | e1174ea: Little more rearranging |
| 23:07.19 | Repo | b9760cb: Little extra name collection |
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| 23:21.45 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: do you need a specific one? I collected them for some years :F |
| 23:22.08 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: yes but its one from my guild, you probably dont have that |
| 23:24.18 | Repo | glow-fo-sho: 03dridzt * r91 GlowFoSho.lua: |
| 23:24.18 | Repo | - Remove a couple unneeded calls while we're here. HookScript(ed) functions run after the originals by default. |
| 23:25.02 | mckenziemc | hey Shirik |
| 23:32.13 | Repo | libmounts-1-0: 03yssaril * r55 / (3 files in 2 directories): added Profession restrictions to the data file |
| 23:32.13 | Repo | added new function lib:GetProffessionRestriction(id) returns if we meet the restrictions to summon the mount (if any) and which profession and profession level required (if any) |
| 23:38.19 | Repo | libmounts-1-0: 03yssaril * r56 LibMounts-1.0/LibMounts-1.0.lua: fix documentation |
| 23:40.39 | Repo | libmounts-1-0: 03yssaril * r57 LibMounts-1.0/LibMounts-1.0.lua: fix spelling /sigh |
| 23:41.32 | mckenziemc | hugs Yssaril |
| 23:41.40 | Yssaril | sigh |
| 23:42.25 | znf | So... |
| 23:42.30 | znf | Some druid typhooned me into a tree |
| 23:42.35 | quiescens | grats |
| 23:42.44 | Gnarfoz | you're a winrar |
| 23:42.44 | mckenziemc | ~stab quiescens |
| 23:42.44 | purl | ACTION runs at quiescens with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 23:46.09 | Repo | onecore: 03Kaelten * r70 / (2 files in 2 directories): Added tag v1.3.12 for changeset 6e52f70025a2 |
| 23:46.09 | Repo | Fixed lua error in config panel |
| 23:46.39 | Repo | onebank3: 03Kaelten * r70 .hgtags: Added tag v3.3.17 for changeset 970e13f5661a |
| 23:46.59 | Repo | onebag3: 03Kaelten * r155 .hgtags: Added tag v3.4.7 for changeset e72ace84dae2 |
| 23:55.40 | Repo | libmounts-1-0: 03yssaril * r58 LibMounts-1.0/LibMounts-1.0.lua: fix equalities |
