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01:19.33Repotank-points: 03JackTripper * r169 / (5 files in 1 directory):  (8 lines trimmed from commit message)
01:19.33Repo- Updated TankPoints version to 5.0.4
01:19.34Repo- Bumped TOC interface version to 50001
01:19.34Repo- Paladin "Holy Shield" removed from game; removed check for talent and calculations
01:19.35Repo- Warrior "Shield Mastery" removed from game; removed check for talent
01:20.13Repolibstatlogic-1-2: 03JackTripper * r75 LibStatLogic-1.2/LibStatLogic-1.2.lua:
01:20.13Repo- API GetPrimaryTalentTree() removed in 5.0.1; using GetSpecialization()
01:20.14Repo- Any players over level 85 will, for now, use level 85 combat rating conversion values
01:31.08Repotank-points: 03JackTripper * r170 .pkgmeta: - doing stuff that package meta might like more
02:13.16Repoheal-points: 03JackTripper 07mists * r131 : Destroying the project by creating a Mists branch
02:18.31Repoheal-points: 03JackTripper * r132 / (3 files in 1 directory): - removed use of HealPoints Bonus Scanner
02:21.26Repotank-points: 03JackTripper 07mists * r171 : You must specify a commit message.
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04:30.55Repodogtagtooltip: 03iceeagle 07master * v1.0-beta-1-gda8cd7c / (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] repackage with new libs
04:48.15mckenziemc(7:21:10 PM) Repo: tank-points: JackTripper mists * r171 : You must specify a commit message.
04:48.19mckenziemche's not a part of the system
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05:04.31znfwtf is tank points
05:04.34znf@project tank-points
05:04.34Repoznf: [WoW] TankPoints (Updated Aug 05, 2012 at 02:31 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/tank-points/
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07:26.11Repo- Add 'chatprefix' function for building loot line jump links, and a
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07:26.12Repo- Make use of them for local and remote notifications, boss kills,
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07:40.31Repolibactionbutton-1-0: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 0.12-8-gfd3d0f6 LibActionButton-1.0.lua: [+1 commit] List all used WoW API functions as allowed globals for the FindGlobals script
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09:37.38Repolibbabble-boss-3-0: 03nevcairiel * r374 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua:
09:37.39RepoAutomated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system
09:37.49Repolibbabble-faction-3-0: 03nevcairiel * r160 LibBabble-Faction-3.0.lua:
09:37.49RepoAutomated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system
09:37.54Repolibbabble-zone-3-0: 03nevcairiel * r349 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua:
09:37.54RepoAutomated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system
09:38.03Repolibbabble-boss-3-0: 03nevcairiel 044.3-release31 * r375 : Weekly Tag - #31
09:38.09Repolibbabble-faction-3-0: 03nevcairiel 044.3-release31 * r161 : Weekly Tag - #31
09:38.15Repolibbabble-zone-3-0: 03nevcairiel 044.3-release31 * r350 : Weekly Tag - #31
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10:58.03Repoxperl: 03THARAI * r651 XPerl_Player/XPerl_Player.lua:
10:58.04RepoUse UPDATE_EXHAUSTION event instead of OnUpdate to check for changes in rested xp.
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13:06.45Funkeh`nevcairiel, babble-boss should be pretty much defunct come 5.x fyi
13:07.25Funkeh`not sure why zone is sitl being updated either
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13:20.58Yoshimodont you need it for precataraids?
13:21.08Repoxperl: 03sontix 06sontix_mop * r652 / (60 files in 16 directories): initial commit
13:23.08Repolil-sparkys-workshop: 03remcoros * r132 pricingSupport/tsm_support.lua:
13:23.08RepoFix TSM minimum buyout support (oops, my first time with LUA)
13:24.40Funkeh`Yoshimo, currently yes, but pre cata dungeons have been added to EJ so raids probably will be. But my point was there is no reason to be updating it with the new bosses
13:25.28Funkeh`if you were talking about zone, that's entirely replaced by map id
13:25.38Yoshimoadding precata raids to the journal isnt needed really, since people give a damn about strategy nowadays ;)
13:26.09Funkeh`what does strategy have to do with the dungeon journal?
13:26.13Yoshimowhat about these other babble libs like faction ?
13:26.37Funkeh`don't know
13:26.42Yoshimoits inside of it funke,  doing maps for black temple alone took ages
13:26.50nevcairielI dont go around adding new stuff really, i just run my update script
13:27.17nevcairielthere are new languages, which had plenty of new translations
13:27.28Yoshimoitalian most likely
13:27.32nevcairielyea
13:27.35nevcairielptBR too
13:27.41nevcairielstill relatively new
13:28.21Yoshimois there much else than babble that is so common that it could be killed?
13:28.35Funkeh`zone should be killed
13:29.46nevcairieladdonloader still uses babble-zone, it supports the X-LoadOn-Zone where you're supposed to enter the zone name in english, sadly no API can replace that 1:1, unless Blizz gives us one not only reporting the localized but also the english name
13:31.03Funkeh`why would you need the zone name in english instead of a zone id?
13:31.08nevcairielother then that the only thing i have that loads BZ is BigWigs and LibTourist, wonder what uses LibTourist
13:31.21Funkeh`no we don't load BZ I removed it last year
13:31.48nevcairielFunkeh`: because thats how the addonloader contract was defined, of course you can change that but it breaks every addon using that for now
13:32.19Funkeh`right, then it should be updated so bz can be eventually kileld off, or it will never happen
13:32.28nevcairielnot to mention that it also supports loading on subzone
13:32.30Funkeh`and support both name and id temporarily
13:32.39nevcairielwhich the API cannot do
13:32.51Funkeh`I believe there are globalvars for subzones
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13:33.09nevcairielthere are not
13:33.24Funkeh`there are, but they may be restricted to dungeons
13:33.42nevcairielthe only thing there is are the names of the floors of dungeons
13:33.54nevcairielwhich may not even match the subzones
13:34.21Funkeh`and why can't the addon itself give the subzone names to addon loader?
13:34.44Funkeh`wait, there aren't subzones even in BZ
13:34.45Yoshimoso there are no subzoneids yet?
13:34.47nevcairielbecause the addon is not loaded yet
13:35.00Funkeh`nevcairiel, in the metadata obviously
13:35.22nevcairielnot to mention that thats exactly what the babble projects are about, a central place for the translation, so not every addon has to do it
13:35.47Funkeh`nevcairiel, there are no subzones in BZ
13:35.51Funkeh`there is a subzone lib for that
13:36.12nevcairielthe subzones in BZ are not complete, but i guarantee you there is more then the major zones in it
13:36.33Repoxperl: 03sontix 06sontix_mop * r653 tags/: remove tags
13:36.34Funkeh`but there is absolutely no need to use an entire library of every subzone when you can have the subzone in the addons metadata
13:36.47nevcairiel<nevcairiel> not to mention that thats exactly what the babble projects are about, a central place for the translation, so not every addon has to do it
13:36.50nevcairieldo you read? =P
13:36.55Funkeh`do you?
13:37.00Funkeh`I was anwering your statement
13:37.20nevcairielso i'm supposed to gather the translation myself for every addon that potentially might want to use it?
13:37.37Funkeh`yourself? that's the point of localizers....
13:38.01nevcairielassuming i feel like translating to german one day, i have to translate the same string in X addons?
13:38.28Funkeh`lol? no, as has always been with addons, translators translate the addons they use
13:38.43Funkeh`zones are no different to any other translation string
13:38.53nevcairielSo why did we ever have babble libs?
13:39.08nevcairieloh right, so trivial strings like that dont get duplicated and triplicated
13:39.20Funkeh`because addons like bigwigs had to have giant databases of translations with no API to use
13:39.30Funkeh`however when the addon is only using a few strings, it spointless
13:40.07Funkeh`if that's your debate, you can keep the web localizating of BZ
13:40.10Funkeh`and authors can use that
13:40.21Funkeh`no need to embed the entire list in an addon
13:41.24nevcairielBZ is optional for AddonLoader anyway, if its not present it wont be used, heck the .toc or pkgmeta don't even mention it, so it wont be pulled in by default
13:42.21Funkeh`so what exactly is your argument against EoL'ing bz?
13:42.35nevcairielif you bothered to check, i already did
13:42.38nevcairielweeks ago
13:42.51nevcairielbut i'm just saying there are still things the API cannot replace fully
13:43.35quiescenso.o
13:43.39nevcairielnot that many people read the project description of the babble libs to notice such messages :p
13:43.41Funkeh`and I disagreed
13:43.49Funkeh`I was arguing about zone, and you brought it subzones
13:44.00Funkeh`zone can be entirely phased out
13:44.01nevcairielbecause such entries are inside BZ
13:44.06Funkeh`badly
13:44.48Funkeh`just because the addons scope was taken out of context doesn't mean it can't be replaced, by sub-zone
13:45.02Funkeh`if people are using BZ for subzones, they're doing it wrong
13:45.31Funkeh`which bring me back to BZ is dead, if you need zones, it's replaced by id's, if you need subzones, it's replaced by babble sub zone
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13:48.59Repoxperl: 03sontix 06sontixmop * r652 / (67 files in 17 directories): initial commit for mop
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14:00.49pompy(8/5/2012 9:21:07 AM) Repo: xperl: sontix sontix_mop * r652 / (60 files in 16 directories): initial commit
14:00.58pompyznf, Stanzilla: ^ lol
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14:09.10Repoxperl: 03sontix 06sontixmop * r653 / (16 files in 16 directories): update toc to 50001 for working modules
14:12.05pompyheh
14:14.06Yoshimoyou cant kill it, never ;)
14:15.05nevcairielcould bribe someone to accidentally delete the projects
14:15.09nevcairielproject*
14:41.03Yoshimoone would need to know a person with enough powers to also loose the serverbackups^^
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15:06.27Stanzillaoh the joy of sleeping 12 hours+
15:07.04quiescensgives Stanzilla a cookie
15:07.39Funkeh`eww
15:08.27Funkeh`I couldn't sleep that log without feeling like crap when I woke up
15:08.32Funkeh`long*
15:10.13StanzillaI always file like crap when I wake up
15:10.15Stanzillaso no diff
15:31.51Repofishing-ace: 03sutorix 04Release 0.5.7 r1 * r183 : Tagging as Release 0.5.7 r1 for Library updates.
15:45.27Repobartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07mop * 4.5-MoP-beta3-2-gda10629 / (31 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
15:45.27Repoda10629: Remove pre-4.3 compat checks
15:45.27Repo43423a9: Update copyright header
15:48.42Repobartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07mop * 4.5-MoP-beta3-5-gae700b3 Bartender4.toc: [+3 commits]
15:48.42Repoae700b3: Load LibKeyBound before LibActionButton
15:48.42Repo06fbb80: Update WoWAce project URL
15:48.43Repo4d9f748: Remove reference to long-removed ActionButton.lua
15:49.31Stanzillaspring cleaning nevcairiel
15:50.04nevcairielso who do i complain about the packager doing shit these days?
15:50.10nevcairielcomplain to*
15:50.11Stanzillaprencher
15:50.46nevcairieli pushed some changes to the mop branch and it decided to re-package my last tag, mark it as an alpha, and game compat 4.3 :p
15:51.12Stanzillawtf
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15:51.32Elkanothat's why I don't tag but just change file settings manually...
15:51.34Humbedoohvotes for Torhal
15:51.46Elkano~emulate Torhal
15:51.46purlAckis, it's ALL your fault!
15:52.37nevcairielooh now it created another file
15:52.54hasteYou require additional files!
15:52.58nevcairielone that it built a month ago
15:53.04nevcairieljust built it again :P
15:53.49nevcairielseriously, someone bump the packager to the top of the fixing list
15:54.54hasteit's barely important
15:56.23kagarocures client not hé mac is going nuts, i keep getting network connection was lost popup
15:56.58kagarowhen it scans my mop beta install
16:02.48Stanzillabroken piece of shit
16:03.45kagaroand if i update to latest version is totally crashes
16:05.22Torhalkagaro: The Mac client has issues with certain AddOns for whatever reason. Replacing those should solve the issue (the upcoming version doesn't have that issue at all).
16:05.28Repobartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07mop * 4.5-MoP-beta3-6-gce75666 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add support for LibDualSpec-1.0
16:06.23kagaroTorhal whats the eta? as i only have 2 add ons that i installed with the curse client a few days ago on my beta install. it stopped working correctly after the beta announcements on wow ace for tagging
16:06.34Stanzillanevcairiel: I just checked the bt4 ticket tracker, awesome stuff there :D
16:06.46Torhalkagaro: A week or two, I believe.
16:06.46nevcairielits full of shit
16:06.51Stanzillayes
16:06.52nevcairieli should delete them all and start over
16:07.08nevcairielsometiems i clean them, then i dont look for a few month, and its all back to hell
16:07.26Stanzillahttp://www.wowace.com/addons/bartender4/tickets/845-uhycfgc-fghctuyctuiycytgcv/
16:07.46nevcairiel"can not update" or "installation fails" are some of the typical errors
16:07.51nevcairielprobably CCs fault
16:07.58Stanzillathe only "useful" ones are on page 4
16:08.07nevcairieli really wish there was an option to keep tickets open but opt-out of CC created tickets
16:08.10nevcairielthe old ones, eh?
16:08.15Stanzillayeah
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16:41.55Yoshimoisnt shadowed usually only on wowuidev?
16:53.11Repoouroloot: 03farmbuyer * r129 / (3 files in 1 directory):
16:53.11RepoDon't set a default keybinding, but rather change the associated option to not be clunky and gross.
16:55.16Reposhadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.4.4-31-gc08b5b1 / (5 files in 3 directories): [+1 commit] Added support for the quest boss indicator on target (enabled by default) and focus (disabled by default)
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18:48.29Repo* added color options for Eclipse and Runes rings
18:49.14Repodogtagtooltip: 03iceeagle 07master * v1.1-beta / (25 files in 3 directories): [+2 commits]
18:49.14Repo2b1e9ae: update localization
18:49.14Repocac1329: bug fixing
18:49.17Repodogtagtooltip: 03iceeagle 04v1.1-beta * 8ed92d2 /: [new tag] Tag as v1.1-beta
18:51.00znf@project dogtagtooltip
18:51.01Repoznf: [WoW] DogTagTooltip (Updated Aug 05, 2012 at 18:49 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/dogtagtooltip/
18:51.08Stanzilla@dick znf
18:51.15znfwhat?
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18:51.20Stanzillahi cuty
18:52.16znf<nevcairiel> could bribe someone to accidentally delete the projects
18:52.25znfwhat kind of bribe are we talking about here?
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18:57.42nevcairieli dunno, give Stanzilla his last epic item for BiS or something, and he'll do whatever we ask
18:57.55Stanzillahaha
19:08.54Repoouroloot: 03farmbuyer * r131 / (3 files in 1 directory):
19:08.55RepoWarn if restoring ridonkulous amount of data.  Placeholder values for MoP raids.
19:12.20Repoxperl: 03THARAI * r652 XPerl_Player/XPerl_Player.lua: Re-enable pvp timer...again...
19:13.54znfwait
19:14.00znfI need to have fun with the xperl repo
19:14.03znfreads the commit messages
19:14.45Repoaboutis: 03LaoTseu 07master * v40300-1-1-g1c1f6fb Aboutis.lua: [+1 commit] Allow Aboutis to be disable by other addons. Aboutis:Enable(), Aboutis:Disable() and Aboutis:IsEnable()are available now. Setting is only for the current session.

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