IRC log for #wowace on 20120708

00:04.48Repomonkec (experimental): 03mavelesta * r2 / (4 files in 1 directory): Initial check-in
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02:27.43znf@project monkec
02:27.43Repoznf: [WoW] MonkEC (Updated Jul 08, 2012 at 00:09 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/monkec/
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03:06.09Repomonkec (experimental): 03mavelesta * r4 embeds.xml: Match to .pkgmeta
03:06.44Repomonkec (experimental): 03mavelesta * r5 MonkEC.toc: Remove bits added automatically by curseforge
03:07.14Repomonkec (experimental): 03mavelesta * r6 MonkEC.lua: Rename a couple methods for clarity
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03:52.17Repomonkec (experimental): 03mavelesta * r8 MonkEC.lua:
03:52.17RepoDetect intermittent blizzard bugs, notify user, and suggest correction.
03:52.37Repomonkec (experimental): 03mavelesta 040.52 * r9 : Tagging as 0.52
04:18.14Repodecursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.7.0.5-6-g40c2ecc / (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] - MoP spell detection full compatibility (all cleansing spells should be automatically detected) - Workaround bug with 'Purify Spirit' where GetSpellBookItemInfo('Purify Spirit') returns nil and GetSpellInfo('Cleanse Spirit') wrongly returns 'Purify Spirit' - Fix spell self diagnostic (/dcrdiag)
05:16.22Repolibbabble-boss-3-0: 03nevcairiel * r370 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua:
05:16.22RepoAutomated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system
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05:16.27RepoAutomated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system
05:16.37Repolibbabble-zone-3-0: 03nevcairiel * r345 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua:
05:16.37RepoAutomated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system
05:16.57Repolibbabble-boss-3-0: 03nevcairiel 044.3-release27 * r371 : Weekly Tag - #27
05:17.02Repolibbabble-inventory-3-0: 03nevcairiel 044.3-release27 * r149 : Weekly Tag - #27
05:17.04Repolibbabble-zone-3-0: 03nevcairiel 044.3-release27 * r346 : Weekly Tag - #27
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05:28.11nevcairiel~framexml
05:28.12purlframexml is, like, Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml
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06:01.49Repogathermate2_data: 03kagaro * r166 TreasureData.lua: GatherMate2_Data: Data update
06:01.54Repogathermate2_data: 03kagaro 04v10.6 * r167 : GatherMate2_Data: Data update
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06:27.51Repomonkec (experimental): 03mavelesta * r10 MonkEC.lua: Dump chi with blackout kick.  Dump energy with keg smash.
06:27.51RepoDetect and warn if GetSpellInfo returns bad data for blackout kick and touch of death.
06:43.37Repobartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07mop * 4.4.20-7-gd3043e1 / (51 files in 4 directories): [new, +4 commits]
06:43.38Repod3043e1: Preliminary fixes for Vehicle UI
06:43.38Repo0e07854: Update MicroMenu Buttons
06:43.38Repo0d0ff2d: Rename ShapeshiftBar -> StanceBar
06:43.39Repoc1ad75d: Bump TOC to 50001
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06:58.17Repomonkec (experimental): 03mavelesta * r11 MonkEC.lua: Work around spell info bugs - don't make user swap specs.
06:58.18RepoOnly recommend elusive brew once.
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10:01.29Repobartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07mop * 4.4.20-8-g5494279 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Re-Add Vehicle Bar with the Leave Vehicle button
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10:18.07Elkano3 tags in 3 secs? clad, what are you doing? ;)
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13:02.17kagaro|awayhas anyone seen what type of vien you get Kyparite Ore from?
13:03.25Repominimapster: 03nevcairiel * r50 MiniMapster.lua: Fix MiniMap Movement for MoP (with version check)
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13:35.40jnwhitehWhy is the curse client updating live users to my 5.0 tagged versions?
13:35.51nevcairielbecause its a POS? :P
13:36.23nevcairielthat you even assumed it would be smart enough to not do that is big failure on your part, though =)
13:36.38jnwhitehI was told that it did
13:36.41jnwhitehotherwise I never would have done that
13:36.49nevcairielso was i, i still didnt believe it
13:36.49jnwhitehgranted it was someone spouting off in #wowuidev
13:36.52nevcairieland turns out, i was right
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13:36.56jnwhitehthen you're a better person than I am :P
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13:37.15nevcairielTorhal said they are filtering out 5.0 versions on the server side now
13:37.22nevcairielbut if you see problems today, it might not work :P
13:52.54Repogathermate2: 03kagaro 07master * 1.16.2-3-g113da7e / (20 files in 5 directories): [+1 commit] Added new icons for mop nodes, added italian localization file, added trillium
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13:57.48kagarohrmm the numbers of floors changed in mop for dragon sould?
14:00.04Yoshimomaybe they cut the first floor around the temple out?
14:00.17kagarothats what im seeing in the data
14:00.28kagarofirst floor is gone
14:00.55Yoshimothe ingame map is still there as far as i know^^
14:01.14kagarodunno
14:14.50Repogathermate2: 03kagaro 07master * 1.16.2-4-g32f18d8 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Added raptor nests as treasure
14:15.35Torhaljnwhiteh: From what I've been told, the client won't see the MoP stuff, but they'll show up on Curse clearly marked as 5.0.1
14:15.53jnwhitehhrm
14:15.57jnwhitehi'll see if I can get more informaton, then
14:16.29nevcairiellike i said earlier, i wouldnt trust users not do download them ;)
14:16.35jnwhitehheh
14:16.42jnwhitehwell that I can deal with
14:19.47Stanzillajnwhiteh: you used the wrong toc version
14:20.04Stanzillathat's why the filter won't work maybe :)
14:20.13jnwhitehhuh?
14:20.13nevcairielhis files are marked as 5.0.1
14:20.23jnwhitehthey were all 50000 and 5.0.1
14:20.29Stanzillayeah 50000 is wrong
14:20.31jnwhitehafaik
14:20.33nevcairielbtw the correct interface version is 50001
14:20.43jnwhiteh50000 works fine as well, though
14:20.53nevcairieldunno, blizzard uses 50001 for all their addons
14:21.07jnwhiteh*shrug*
14:21.48nevcairielIn any case, Torhal got some more yelling to do first thing tomorrow
14:22.28TorhalNope. Vacation all next week. What's the issue, though?
14:23.00nevcairielWell apparently your filter thingy didnt work for jnwhiteh
14:23.11nevcairieland CC still installs his 5.0 versions
14:23.56jnwhitehwell
14:23.59jnwhitehI can't 100% confirm that
14:24.03jnwhitehso we'll see
14:24.14StanzillaI can
14:24.20Stanzillabecause it lists the update for me
14:24.31jnwhitehwell they're not even there any more
14:24.34jnwhitehso that's a problem :P
14:24.47nevcairielsyndication between CF and curse takes a bit
14:24.56jnwhitehaye
14:25.02StanzillaI'd still say, try again with the correct toc
14:25.05Stanzillaand we'll see
14:27.34Stanzillanevcairiel: can you tag the mop branch for bt please so I can link it to people? :)
14:27.51nevcairieli dont trust curse not to send it to people
14:27.51nevcairielso
14:27.52nevcairielno
14:28.54Torhalprencher: Can you do your CurseForge-side filtering again? That actually worked - apparently the curse.com stuff is broken.
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17:51.21prencherjnwhiteh: which addon is it that's showing up as  5.x?
17:51.57Stanzillaprencher: clique
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18:20.03prencherno 5.x addon has been synced from that
18:20.08prencheronly 4.3.4
18:20.50prencherthe dev version is 50001, if the toc detected is unknown, it's assumed it's the latest release version, which would be 40300
18:23.06prencherin other words it's user error combined with blizzard changing their convention seemingly for the sake of changing it
18:23.49nevcairielthe number at the end was never defined to always be 0 or something, it was 3 in some beta before
18:24.02prencherwell, then blame Torhal for lying to me
18:24.29prencherhe's our resident addon expert (yeah...), so I went by the toc version he gave me
18:24.43nevcairielhow about anything >= 50000 :p
18:25.08nevcairielanyway adding 50000 to the list as well will catch those cases
18:28.47prenchertaking a range like that would add a lot of potential for other issues
18:35.35Stanzillahow about flagging everything that is not like valid_live_version and valid_beta_version as invalid and not sync?
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19:25.39GnarfozBlizzard changed what convention?
19:25.44Gnarfozthey didn't change a thing
19:26.33Gnarfozone digit for major, two digits for minor, two digits for patch... that's how it's been since this format was introduced =}
19:26.59foxlitthe way that triple maps to interface version.
19:27.05Gnarfozit didn't change.
19:27.07Gnarfoz5.00.01
19:27.31foxlitThat .01 is contrary to most prior patches.
19:27.41prencherGnarfoz: previous varions have all been 40000, 40100, 40200 etc
19:27.41Gnarfozit's conforming to the "spec", as it were.
19:27.54foxlit4.3.4, for example? Not 40304.
19:28.05Gnarfozdid 4.3.4 introduce incompatible changes?
19:28.14Gnarfozno, so it's still 40300 for 4.3.0
19:28.40foxlitI don't think that extrapolation is safe.
19:28.51Funkeh`it did introduce incompatible changes
19:29.04Gnarfozsuch as?
19:29.13prencherand this is the first time they've done xxx1 for a major release
19:29.16prencherso yes, it is a break of convention
19:29.18Gnarfozso what?
19:29.19Gnarfozno
19:29.19Funkeh`for starters, it completely removed API, CompainChat
19:29.24Gnarfozwell, convention, maybe. not definition
19:29.51prencherit's almost as if I said convention originally as well
19:29.54prencherhuh. imagine that.
19:30.31foxlitIt's not like how that tag is made was ever really defined
19:30.37Gnarfozfoxlit: sure it was
19:30.44Gnarfozwhen this particular format was introduced
19:30.53Gnarfozfollowing the crazy times before that
19:30.55foxlitlink or it didn't happen.
19:31.03Gnarfozcan't link to the old forums
19:31.39foxlitbut basically, the last time the patch part of the triple played a role in the interface tag was 2.0.3
19:32.07Gnarfozoh so they "changed their convention back"?
19:32.07Gnarfoz;P
19:32.41foxlit2.0.3 was the *only* time that happened
19:32.57foxlitIt's far from the only patch-level patch with breaking changes.
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19:34.56Gnarfozthey've also straight up mislabeled at least one release before
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19:36.35nevcairielthe point is, they have two digits there for a patch-level increment
19:36.42nevcairielif they are always 0, no point in having them
19:36.45nevcairielso they use them sometimes :)
19:37.19foxlitthis particular time seems like an odd time to do so, however :)
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19:37.48nevcairielthe last time it happend was also during a beta
19:37.57nevcairielso, everything fits!
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19:38.54nevcairielI don't get the big fuss about that anyway. It could be some random number every patch for all i care
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19:46.34Gnarfoznevcairiel: it used to include the build number, do you remember that? :| chaos times
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19:47.06nevcairielits not like the logic is smart, any mismatch causes it to show outdated in the client
19:47.17nevcairielso in the end, it really doesnt matter, you just need to know the current one
19:47.27foxlitit'd be neat to claim compatibility with multiple versions at the same time.
19:47.28nevcairielsure its easier if you can compute the number yourself
19:47.47nevcairiel(but most people dont understand the logic :P)
19:47.58Gnarfozpeople? logic?
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20:41.51StanzillaGnarfoz dick
21:01.36Repomonkec (experimental): 03mavelesta * r13 MonkEC.lua:  (1 line trimmed from commit message)
21:01.36RepoCorrect buff mis-mapping
21:01.37RepoAdd options to set health emergency and when to use elusive brew
21:01.37RepoPersist "use AOE" correctly
21:01.38RepoMove code around so the picking engine comes ahead of UI stuff
21:03.09kagarohey Torhal you around?
21:04.20StanzillaGnarfoz sb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soagZC0BMV8&feature=youtu.be&pxtry=1
21:04.25Stanzillathis guy is going to win this week
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21:11.30sbwtf Stanzilla
21:11.43Stanzillait's so awesome
21:11.51Stanzillahow he disses the other guilds on our server
21:11.55Stanzillaand I'm in the video, too!
21:11.57Stanzillawell my char is
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21:44.36GnarfozI like how Shadowed disses people in his changelog for "not reading changelogs" (because his alphas are not compatible with 4.3), even though his changelog says nothing about it being incompatible
21:44.40Gnarfoztypical dick :p
21:51.50Stanzillayeah he is
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22:58.40TorhalBRT, prencher - I said 50001 :P
22:58.44TorhalI even commented on it being odd.
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23:04.04prencherTorhal: BRT?
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23:45.30quiescensmoo
23:50.15pompyprencher: BRT - Bra removal time
23:50.20pompyi doubt it, but yeah
23:50.43Stanzillablack rock tits
23:54.44sbmhhhh

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