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02:51.49Repoauto-toast: 03tharai * r15 / (4 files in 1 directory): Change name to AchievementBroadcaster.
02:51.49RepoI think this suits the addon better.
02:53.34Repoauto-toast: 03tharai * r16 AchievementBroadcaster.toc: bump version for name change.
02:54.19pompy@project auto-toast
02:54.19Repopompy: [WoW] Achievement Broadcaster (Updated Jun 18, 2012 at 02:53 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/auto-toast/
03:02.14Repoouroloot: 03farmbuyer * r106 / (4 files in 1 directory):  (1 line trimmed from commit message)
03:02.14Repo- More cosmetic cleanup.
03:02.15Repo- Implement "GUI noob" option.  Basic entries for Loot and History tabs.
03:02.15Repo- Disable wipe->kill toggling once the entry is actually a kill.  Duh.
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06:40.13Repogrid: 03phanx 044.3.4.1482-beta * r1482 :  (4 lines trimmed from commit message)
06:40.13Repo* Added a new Resurrect status module. Please report any and all issues with this to the WowAce ticket tracker!
06:40.14Repo* Fixed range checking on dead units (ticket #566).
06:40.14Repo* Fixed the options for removing custom auras (thanks jlam).
06:40.15Repo* Fixed an issue that caused some Frame settings not to be updated when switching to another profile (ticket #556).
06:43.07Repogrid: 03Phanx * r1483 Statuses/GridStatusRange.lua: - Improved range checking on dead targets for warlocks
06:49.03Repogrid: 03Phanx * r1484 Statuses/GridStatusResurrect.lua: - Removed alpha version warning
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07:59.58Repogrid: 03phanx 044.3.4.1485-beta * r1485 :  (7 lines trimmed from commit message)
07:59.58Repo* Added a new Resurrect status module.
07:59.59Repo* -- Please report any and all issues with this to the WowAce ticket tracker!
07:59.59Repo* -- If you use the GridStatusRes plugin, you should disable it, or unassign its "Incoming resurrection" and "Resurrected" statuses from all indicators.
08:00.00Repo* -- Core support for Soulstones will be added in a future release.
08:01.05KivinCan a frame have multiple script handlers on the same script?
08:15.36Elkanonot directly since registering a new overwrites the old; you'll have to use a proxy layer
08:15.37Torhalo.O
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12:49.06Kethothe packager is sleeping http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=19598&page=6#52
12:49.11Kethostarts poking prencher
12:49.20bluspacecow*fondles prencher*
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13:24.31znf@project bad-boy
13:24.31Repoznf: [WoW] BadBoy: Anti Spam Blocker & Reporter (Updated Jun 17, 2012 at 13:43 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/bad-boy/
13:31.24quiescenso.o
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14:09.23dieckAnti Spam Blocker? So that would allow spam?
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15:00.52prenchershould be running again
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15:32.50quiescensthat's what you think
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16:04.45prencherquiescens: is it?
16:05.16Torhal|workdeploys a tactical nuke from space upon quiescens.
16:05.44MegalonTorhal|work is now known as theoverkiller
16:05.45durcynwho the hell writes your scripts anyway, as much as that packager falls over, i'd want someone to be unemployed
16:06.28Ackisdurcyn: y u want to see prencher and torhal get fired?
16:06.45Torhal|workAckis: Erm, we didn't write that shite.
16:07.15prencherdurcyn: The person who wrote that IS unemployed
16:09.31Megalonso they got it from a bum on the street
16:09.41Megalondid you eat his face off afterwards Torhal|work?
16:09.42quiescenso.o
16:09.48quiescensso violent
16:10.00Torhal|workMegalon: No, Fisker- is the one who smokes "bath salts".
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16:12.07Megalonwell, Fisker- smokes everything, as long as it's name is in quotations
16:12.33Torhal|workThis is true, "Megalon".
16:13.16MegalonI said it, of course it's true, "Torhal|work"
16:13.30durcynare you both jockeying for danish blowjobs, that's disgusting
16:14.05Megalonwhat makes a blowjob a danish one
16:14.39durcynfisker puts jelly on his lips
16:14.43Torhal|workErm, where the hell did you derive that from durcyn?
16:15.02durcynthe term 'smoke' as a euphemism, Torhal
16:15.06pompyTorhal|work: "Hey, I just met you, and this is crazy, but I just did bath salts your face looks tasty"
16:15.08pompy:P
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16:15.24Torhal|workWeirdos.
16:15.27MegalonTorhal|work, ones sexual desires, hidden in the subconciousness sometimes get a message through
16:15.32pompylol
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18:07.25Yoshimois there a way to fill the npc info cache by requesting their info with a script?
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18:23.52oscarucbdon't think you can request info for an npc which is not IsVisible(), but I mighth be wrong
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20:40.15Repopostal: 03oscarucb * r361 Modules/OpenAll.lua: add the other player's name to AH opening output
20:40.15Repoidea by jmbarlow
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21:07.30KivinWhat's the proper way to react to a CheckButton getting clicked (changed). Calling :GetChecked in an <OnClick> handler deadlocks the widget.
21:09.42vhaarrKivin: No, it doesn't.
21:10.30KivinAlright.... then I've got a really weird bug, because <OnClick>self:GetChecked();</OnClick> freezes the control (no longer receives OnEnter, OnClick, etc)
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21:12.18KivinOh frig me, I see what's going on.
21:12.30vhaarrNoone uses XML any more, you should take a look at some of my addons like BugSack, Blockoland, FascistGnome, etc for Lua-driven config.
21:12.59KivinI know I should. But I literally need just a drop down and three check buttons and that's it, so i thought I'd roll it myself.
21:13.08KivinRather than learn an api. Shame on me I guess.
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21:13.15vhaarryeah, you're doing it wrong
21:14.19KivinWould you still advocate an all-lua setup for guis that can't be generated with automated libraries?
21:14.37vhaarryour GUI can be generated with "automated libraries", whatever that means
21:15.00vhaarrbut if it's a simple thing with 4 widgets, then yes I'd advocate writing it from scratch
21:15.02Kivin*sigh* like AceConfig
21:15.16vhaarrI'm certain AceConfig could handle it
21:16.11KivinI wrote an addon like Auctioneer which constitutes a fairly considerable amount of control hierarchy and templating and I wouldn't relish the idea of writing it by hand in lua
21:16.32vhaarrthat's what you're doing now, in XML
21:16.45KivinWhat do you mean?
21:16.54vhaarryou ARE writing it by hand, are you not?
21:17.02KivinBut the Xml is more expressive
21:17.04vhaarror did you find some sort of GUI designer for WoW that I am not familiar with
21:17.11vhaarr(which is entirely possible)
21:17.11KivinNay sir
21:17.34vhaarrthe XML might be more expressive, but it's also forcing you to learn two things at the same time
21:17.53vhaarrone of which is almost entirely deprecated by everyone except Blizzard themselves
21:18.14vhaarrthere's only a few addons I know of that use XML to define their UI, and all those addons suck ass
21:18.16KivinI'm pretty comfortable with the xml, actually. I have to read the manual on lua pretty well constantly though.
21:18.52KivinI'm not trying to argue with you, by the way. You're one of a tall list of esteemed people who have all said basically the same thing.
21:19.07vhaarrI'm not arguing
21:19.14KivinJust being clear
21:19.16vhaarrcool
21:20.32vhaarrI won't argue with the fact that if you are comfortable with the XML and don't envision yourself creating any future WoW UIs then it's perfectly fine to leave it like it is
21:20.55vhaarrbut judging by the problem you had initially here where the widget froze up, I'd say you're not comfortable
21:21.06vhaarrso, that was my basis for discussion
21:22.15KivinFair enough
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21:38.33KivinMy AceDB data isn't getting pushed to file correctly. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.
21:39.11KivinMy saved variables file looks like:   MyAddonData = { ["Profile Keys"] = { ["Joe - Server"] = "Default" } }
21:39.55vhaarrand your TOC SavedVariables entry?
21:40.11KivinIt matches the first argument of my AceDB:New
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21:41.37KivinI don't need the profiles of my AceDB so I'm assigning self.db to AceDB:New().global (And global is defined in my data default table)
21:43.01Kivinhttp://www.wowace.com/paste/hle2p6yi1admtn05/
21:44.07KivinIt's being called after VARIABLES_LOADED if that makes any difference
21:44.27vhaarrand then how do you set something on the db?
21:44.39Kivinself.db.foobar = baz
21:45.01Kivinor addon.db.foobar = baz from outside of an addon method
21:50.42vhaarrwhat does db_defaults contain?
21:51.47KivinSorry had to go pick up dinner upstairs; http://www.wowace.com/paste/5596/
21:52.13Torhal|workglobal = { events = {} }
21:52.38Torhal|workYou're writing to global but not declaring it as part of your defaults.
21:52.47vhaarrno torhal, he does that in the DB init
21:52.50Kivinglobal is being specified in the LibStub("AceDB") line
21:52.50Torhal|workAh
21:53.01KivinSorry, know its confusing. Should have just pasted the whole thing
21:53.08vhaarryes, you should
21:53.36vhaarryou realise that you have to restart WoW for it to pick up changes to savedvariable TOC entries, right?
21:54.19KivinIndeed. I've not made any changes to the toc in days and just haven't bothered to check if settings were pushing down to disk since practically nothing was configurable until now
21:55.03vhaarrwell we need to see your code, there's nothing wrong with what you've shown so far
21:55.22KivinIn point of fact, the SavedVariables\AuctionToast.lua file does contain the specific variable that is denoted in the toc and in the :New func
21:56.24vhaarryes, but seeing as you were just providing random snippets and code that had potentially been written straight to IRC, there could've been a mistake somewhere that you didn't see
21:56.56vhaarras opposed to copy/pasting, like when you wrote "<Kivin> My saved variables file looks like:   MyAddonData = { ["Profile Keys"] = { ["Joe - Server"] = "Default" } }"
21:57.19vhaarrperhaps MyAddonData wasn't matching the TOC or the Lua init
21:57.45vhaarrit's better if you just dump the code in its entirety
21:58.06Kivinsorry about the wait, was just trimming out some CreateFrame boilerplate and commented old code
21:59.47Kivinhttp://www.wowace.com/paste/i4ln2d5mpob8xukt/ that refers to the creation of the db and assignment of its values. The rest is addon logic which only references toast_events
22:00.50KivinI can verify with /dump that addon.db is being assigned to
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22:04.32vhaarrI don't understand why you have two tables containing basically the same data
22:05.08vhaarrso you access the |toast_events| table in your addon code?
22:05.15vhaarrwhy not just use the db directly instead
22:05.36vhaarrthe only thing you're missing in the db is the pattern
22:05.43Kivinocd coding, maybe. the pattern field doesn't need to be pushed to disk since its stored in localization. I access the |toast_events| tables, which metatable down to their db partners
22:06.04vhaarralso, line 28 is not necessary, the variables created by the loop are automatically local
22:06.18Kivindodm
22:06.20Kivindidn't know that
22:06.21Kivinthanks
22:06.39vhaarrI'd just have a mapping of the event name to the pattern and otherwise access the db directly
22:06.40Torhal|workIf it were necessary, it'd be bitching about you not declaring _
22:07.05vhaarralso, a loop like |for i, v in next, tbl do| creates less fallout than ipairs
22:07.34Kivinfallout, as in garbage or something else?
22:07.46vhaarrright
22:07.58KivinWill keep that in mind
22:08.47KivinAs for my saved variables getting canned each uireload, I don't know... I'll sleep on it, refactor out the toast_events and revisit it in the morrow
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22:26.12Stanzillaare you using LibToasts btw?
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22:49.08Funkeh`http://live.theverge.com/microsoft-live-blog-tablet-announcement/
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22:51.50StanzillaFunkeh`: what are you hoping for?
22:51.59Funkeh`nothing
22:52.07Funkeh`just curious to see what it is
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22:52.22Stanzillatablet
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22:52.44Funkeh`Gonna laugh my ass off if that's all it is
22:52.48Stanzillabut I want a announcement that the metro ui in win8 was april's fool joke
22:52.51Stanzillaand take it back
22:52.56Funkeh`there's gonna be something unique about it
22:53.11StanzillaFunkeh`: xbox shizzle integrated
22:53.23Funkeh`What's unique about that?
22:53.30Stanzillanothing, but this is MS
22:53.33Funkeh`Windows 8 has that shite
22:53.58Stanzillamight also be something new IN THE CLOUD
22:54.17Megalonyou can now have your own personal cloud
22:54.21MegalonINSIDE THE CLOUD
22:54.25Funkeh`you are a cloud
22:54.26Stanzillanice
22:54.31StanzillaI live in the cloud(s)
22:54.34Megaloneveryone who buys win8
22:54.45Stanzillabtw win8 might be heaven for desktop modders
22:54.49Megalonwill get an actual mario galaxy cloud suit
22:54.54Stanzillamight get back to the level of winxp
22:55.14Funkeh`whats with all the "might"?
22:55.24Funkeh`some kind fo rumour?
22:56.23Stanzillanah, I'm just guessing
22:56.31Funkeh`lol
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22:56.39Stanzillabecause all the cool visual styles were non-glass
22:56.50Funkeh`well if you ignore the start screen it has many improvements over 7
22:57.20Stanzillahttp://www.winunleaked.info/publicimgup/afad44fb1eea45dbe949e43e408ed8332.PNG
22:57.21Stanzillathis
22:57.24Stanzillastill hurts my eyes
22:57.44Funkeh`that's because it's 90% watermark
22:57.49Stanzillahaha
22:57.55Funkeh`some picture with your watermark, sir?
22:58.35Funkeh`"Did I mention they're serving champagne and mimosas to everyone here? They are." reason enough to go
22:58.44StanzillaI mean
22:58.44Stanzillahttp://www.neowin.net/images/uploaded/20120618_160834_463.jpg
22:58.46Stanzillawhat is this
23:00.01Funkeh`No idea, but I highly doubt it will end up with that many shades of pink
23:00.35Stanzillawell that's an option
23:00.50Stanzillablack looks bad, too http://www.neowin.net/images/uploaded/4_4.png
23:01.09Funkeh`I generally ignore these leaks considering how wildly different the widgets end up looking
23:01.30Stanzillameh, that's the real deal
23:01.33Stanzillaand I'm hungry
23:01.41Stanzillaand that ms thingy might be a new surface device
23:01.52Stanzillaor both
23:01.57Stanzillaafk looking for food
23:04.38mckenziemcafk hiding Stanzilla's food
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23:23.47Stanzillahey
23:23.49Stanzillait's a tablet
23:24.31Stanzillaand called surface
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23:24.38Stanzillaso I was double right, Funkeh`
23:24.49Funkeh`zz
23:25.23Stanzillawoah
23:25.25StanzillaUSB 2
23:25.27Stanzillanice microsoft
23:25.44Funkeh`was just thinking that
23:25.57Funkeh`though the pictures of it do look good
23:26.18Funkeh`rather have one fo the Nokia mockups personally
23:29.45Funkeh`wow...
23:29.48Funkeh`the keyboard
23:29.53Funkeh`that's genious
23:30.16Funkeh`holy fuck
23:30.24Stanzillayes
23:30.30Stanzillaso cool
23:30.34Funkeh`its a fucking transforing laptop
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23:30.39Funkeh`tranforming
23:35.53Funkeh`perimiter venting, nifty
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23:41.46Stanzillawtb price tag already
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23:58.09Funkeh`Stanzilla, got any "priced competatevely" in your wallet?
23:59.32nebula169means it costs 20$ less than an ipad

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