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| 00:22.20 | orionshock | good morning all |
| 00:22.30 | quiescens | o/ |
| 00:22.40 | orionshock | anyone got a min or 3 to help me with an OT question about javascript and "tables"? |
| 00:28.14 | orionshock | nevermind... i think i found the ID10T Error :) |
| 00:28.37 | orionshock | wtb browser that uses lua scripting instead of javascript... :| |
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| 03:08.18 | Repo | ouroloot: 03farmbuyer * r92 / (5 files in 1 directory): (5 lines trimmed from commit message) |
| 03:08.18 | Repo | - Make sure popup dialogs are on top of Ace3's widgets. |
| 03:08.19 | Repo | - Minor code reorganization. Safety hook for future boss-entry code. |
| 03:08.19 | Repo | - Avoid same bug from a couple revs ago when adding manual boss kills. |
| 03:08.20 | Repo | - Ask players about snapshot data when manually entering boss kills. |
| 03:13.39 | znf | sbu, http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3660205991?page=12#231 |
| 03:13.42 | znf | (yes, I'm bored...) |
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| 03:56.25 | Repo | ouroloot: 03farmbuyer * r93 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 03:56.26 | Repo | Implement a list of items to be automatically marked as sent to the guild vault. List controlled on the Options tab like the existing filter. Default list is Cataclysm crafting material drops. |
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| 05:08.43 | quiescens | moo |
| 05:09.13 | mckenziemc | quiescens: goto die |
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| 06:14.13 | sbu | oh yes you are znf! goto sleep |
| 06:14.27 | znf | I woke up at 6am... |
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| 06:26.13 | quiescens | o.o |
| 06:28.34 | sbu | oh hai, its you and Megalon again |
| 06:29.15 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 06:30.35 | bluspacecow | its only 6.30 here |
| 06:30.37 | bluspacecow | i not 4 ! |
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| 06:34.03 | sbu | no bluspacecow, its 8:30! |
| 06:39.21 | mckenziemc | bluspacecow: goto kill_quiescens |
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| 09:11.14 | quiescens | \ |
| 09:21.23 | haste | / |
| 09:27.22 | quiescens | ): |
| 09:27.56 | bluspacecow | * |
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| 09:34.31 | Megalon | mhm |
| 09:35.26 | sbu | ja? |
| 09:37.17 | Megalon | JA JA JA JA MEIN SCHNITZEL IST KAPUTT |
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| 09:40.50 | sbu | Megalon: ok! |
| 09:47.08 | Megalon | i'll repair it with my stalwart schnitzelklopfer! |
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| 09:57.12 | Groktar | not sure what i think about windows 8 |
| 10:04.06 | mitch0 | irrelevant? :) |
| 10:04.17 | mitch0 | your thoughts and win8, too ;) |
| 10:07.38 | Groktar | D: |
| 10:09.31 | Groktar | feels like i should be able to drag back and forth on the start screen |
| 10:15.10 | Stanzilla | I just ate schnitzel Megalon |
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| 11:01.30 | Megalon | you are a lucky man, Stanzilla |
| 11:01.58 | Megalon | schnitzel megalon is haute cuisine |
| 11:02.13 | Stanzilla | I had leberkäs, too |
| 11:02.31 | Megalon | fohlenleberkäs or just regular one? :P |
| 11:03.21 | Megalon | that just reminded me that i'm hungry |
| 11:03.57 | Stanzilla | Megalon: dafuq is fohlenleberkäs? |
| 11:04.55 | Groktar | sounds dutch or something |
| 11:04.57 | Groktar | flees |
| 11:06.08 | Megalon | you know what a fohlen is? |
| 11:06.17 | Groktar | nope |
| 11:06.19 | Megalon | a foal |
| 11:06.26 | Groktar | like a horse? |
| 11:06.56 | Megalon | a young horse |
| 11:07.56 | Stanzilla | it was regular one, Megalon |
| 11:10.26 | sbu | googles fohlenleberkäs |
| 11:11.03 | sbu | so google has no results, must be some strange .at thingie then! |
| 11:11.15 | sbu | Megalon: update your interwebs |
| 11:17.39 | Megalon | it's leberkäs from the meat of a foal |
| 11:17.57 | Megalon | tastes different then the regular industry leberkäs |
| 11:23.17 | Humbedooh | wonders if there's kitten-leberkäs as well |
| 11:25.20 | Megalon | would take quite a few kittens |
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| 12:01.56 | znf | sbu, the horror! DPs initial damage doesn't crit :( |
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| 14:09.53 | Repo | badboy_guilded: 03funkydude * r93 / (2 files in 1 directory): more ads |
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| 14:16.53 | quiescens | o.o |
| 14:36.53 | Chosi | hrm |
| 14:37.07 | Chosi | drop 4pc rogue bonus for 410 underdweller's spaulders? :S |
| 14:37.43 | Chosi | no. |
| 14:37.50 | Repo | retardcheck: 03oscarucb 043.0.2 * r127 : Tagging as 3.0.2 |
| 14:37.54 | sbu | errr, no |
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| 14:52.44 | znf | I'M BORED I'M BORED I'M BORED |
| 14:53.04 | Stanzilla | okok |
| 14:55.21 | znf | Wanted to quest in the beta.. but some NPC dude wont' spawn :-( |
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| 15:18.07 | Repo | inspectfix: 03oscarucb 043.3 * r38 : Tagging as 3.3 |
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| 18:15.08 | Slayman | so it was indeed Skada which killed my WoW Client every now and again |
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| 18:29.33 | Talryn | Skada crashes the WoW client occasionally or it just causes intermittent pauses? |
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| 19:46.04 | sbu | mh, anyone here raiding with lootcouncil? |
| 19:46.52 | znf | that's the most corrupt system ever! :P |
| 19:49.37 | Gnarfoz | at least dictatorship would have the advantage of knowing who's fucking you over |
| 19:50.04 | sbu | well, since i would be dictator.. *shrug* no problem at all.. |
| 19:50.20 | sbu | no idea which dkp/item/whatever system to use :( |
| 19:50.32 | nevcairiel | a good loot council is probably really good for your raid, but of course people get easily pissed off because they never know the real reasons for the choices, etc etc |
| 19:51.38 | Gnarfoz | sadly, the ideal system doesn't exist |
| 19:51.38 | Gnarfoz | : |
| 19:51.39 | Gnarfoz | D |
| 19:52.04 | nevcairiel | communism is also a good system, its just not compatible with peoples mindset |
| 19:52.05 | sbu | we have epgp, which is fine - but 1 small problem: why should i take non-bestinslot items when i can wait for bestinslot, because i would have to pay for both |
| 19:52.10 | Torhal|work | Gnarfoz: Sure it does "Because I fucking SAID so." |
| 19:52.18 | sbu | could be solved by "only first mainspec item for full price" |
| 19:52.40 | sbu | which could be exploited in "okay, i take this staff, and that one, oh, and maybe that one also..." |
| 19:52.40 | nevcairiel | you need a system that punishes excessive point hoarding |
| 19:52.46 | sbu | thats fine with epgp |
| 19:52.48 | Gnarfoz | Torhal|work: see above under "dictatorship, n." |
| 19:52.55 | Torhal|work | Indeed. |
| 19:53.10 | sbu | but doesnt solve "why should i buy 2 items on the same slot" |
| 19:53.33 | Gnarfoz | I don't know the deatils of epgp, but we just use group loot these days and roll on everything; main spec before 2nd/3rd specs, though. But that's pretty much it |
| 19:53.39 | znf | sbu, Mr. Robot's Robocouncil? |
| 19:53.50 | nevcairiel | maybe you should form a sort of loot council, that doesnt decide who gets loot, but bitchslaps people when they skip on real upgrades |
| 19:53.58 | sbu | yup |
| 19:54.04 | znf | http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/robocouncil |
| 19:54.27 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: thats what i would do in a 10man, not sure it works in 25 |
| 19:54.31 | sbu | we had a druid (TANK) not taking 4pc setbonus normal because he waited for heroic... so we had no 4pc tank bonus for ages |
| 19:54.35 | sbu | thats just stupid |
| 19:54.43 | sbu | but you cant force it with a "normal" system |
| 19:54.48 | znf | sbu, should have forced it no matter what |
| 19:55.15 | Stanzilla | sounds super silly, sbu |
| 19:55.19 | sbu | Stanzilla: I KNOW |
| 19:55.22 | sbu | dont tell me |
| 19:55.32 | nevcairiel | every raid has those people |
| 19:55.38 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: yeah, we're 9man |
| 19:55.39 | nevcairiel | even worse on a classical dkp system |
| 19:55.46 | sbu | yep |
| 19:55.53 | Gnarfoz | (funeral is next wednesday t_t) |
| 19:55.54 | znf | http://i.minus.com/il0KPvtYNHmB5.png <--- RoboCouncil |
| 19:55.59 | nevcairiel | they wait for that one trinket before buying anything |
| 19:56.14 | znf | nevcairiel, I did that :P |
| 19:56.19 | znf | for Cunning of the Cruel HC :D |
| 19:56.22 | nevcairiel | then you're a fool |
| 19:56.36 | znf | I was still top dps even without any piece of gear |
| 19:56.46 | sbu | still stupid |
| 19:56.52 | sbu | thats the problem... :D |
| 19:57.05 | Gnarfoz | znf: looks like your subpixel rendering is well and truly fucked |
| 19:57.06 | nevcairiel | unless everyone else was undergeared and really benefited much more then you, its still silly |
| 19:57.16 | Stanzilla | we solved that for our raid, non-BiS items don't cost dkp |
| 19:57.18 | Stanzilla | problem gone |
| 19:57.29 | sbu | hm okay |
| 19:57.32 | nevcairiel | and who decides BiS? |
| 19:57.37 | nevcairiel | i mean, it may be easy for a DPS |
| 19:57.38 | Stanzilla | pool leader |
| 19:57.40 | Stanzilla | and the internet |
| 19:57.54 | Stanzilla | it's easy for everyone in the current situation |
| 19:57.54 | znf | It's a gearing strategy. Considering that the trinket benefits Shadow Priests the most (increased damage from Shadowform), and it's such a low droprate, I had to save up all my DKP for it. |
| 19:57.56 | nevcairiel | but for healers we always had quite some discussions on some items |
| 19:58.06 | sbu | znf: no, should be awarded to SPs first |
| 19:58.10 | nevcairiel | i suppose could mark two items BiS for the same slot to avoid that :p |
| 19:58.10 | sbu | because anything else would be stupid |
| 19:58.15 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: doesnt happen anymore |
| 19:58.23 | Stanzilla | there are 2 or maybe 3 trinkets |
| 19:58.25 | znf | sbu, except we use DKP and lot is just bought with DKP. |
| 19:58.30 | Stanzilla | easy to find out which ones is better |
| 19:58.31 | Stanzilla | etc |
| 19:58.35 | znf | loot* |
| 19:58.44 | znf | sbu, so there was no other way for me to get it. |
| 19:58.52 | sbu | Stanzilla: sounds okay... i think we will go for that |
| 19:59.00 | znf | Loot Councils may work for 10mans, but not for 25mans :-/ |
| 19:59.04 | sbu | BiS item full GP, non-BiS (also offspec) for "25" (dummy value) |
| 19:59.09 | nevcairiel | The question is how many items you had to pass on, and how much higher your DPS could've been if you didnt pass |
| 19:59.12 | sbu | should work |
| 19:59.24 | nevcairiel | Usually, no item will warrant passing on everything else |
| 19:59.34 | sbu | but this also sucks Stanzilla |
| 19:59.43 | znf | nevcairiel, that trinket is an almost 10% damage increase :-) |
| 19:59.49 | sbu | Stanzilla: so i can get my t13 gloves free because there are spine gloves that will never drop, right? |
| 19:59.50 | Stanzilla | sbu: why |
| 19:59.55 | Stanzilla | sbu: yes |
| 20:00.04 | sbu | or we wont kill spine the next 10 weeks |
| 20:00.10 | Stanzilla | instead of them getting disenchanted |
| 20:00.14 | Stanzilla | because everyone is hording dkp |
| 20:00.15 | Stanzilla | for spien gloves |
| 20:00.18 | znf | My gloves went to the shittymage :( |
| 20:00.23 | nevcairiel | i would assume of course that everyone where the T13 gloves are BiS gets them before you |
| 20:00.34 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 20:00.55 | sbu | Stanzilla: so gloves are free for priests, but full price for pallys |
| 20:01.18 | znf | That sounds awfully complicated for loot rules (mantaining BiS lists) |
| 20:01.19 | sbu | so i can take chest because pally spent 10000 pts on gloves |
| 20:01.42 | nevcairiel | but if your gloves drop, you spend all those points |
| 20:01.46 | nevcairiel | i would say it balances out |
| 20:01.59 | sbu | doesnt work if you have fixed price (like epgp) |
| 20:02.23 | Stanzilla | in the end, everyone gets his best loot (or not) dkp values are even and you are better equipped for progression |
| 20:02.27 | Stanzilla | because less stuff is disenchanted |
| 20:02.48 | znf | sbu, Robocouncil --> Republican Ranking Method == WIN |
| 20:03.21 | nevcairiel | at least those decisions are somewhat transparent |
| 20:03.34 | nevcairiel | although one can argue that his scoring is flawed for some class |
| 20:03.42 | sbu | Stanzilla: also hard to decide what is "mainspec" and what "offspec" |
| 20:03.58 | Stanzilla | sbu: why? |
| 20:04.26 | znf | I trust Mr. Robot's ranking. If someone disagrees with the rankings there, he should better come up with the math behind his reasoning. |
| 20:04.40 | sbu | Stanzilla: spine agi trinket for ferals |
| 20:04.48 | sbu | mainspec or offspec? |
| 20:04.50 | Stanzilla | off |
| 20:04.57 | znf | Why off? |
| 20:05.01 | sbu | but using it in tank spec all the time |
| 20:05.29 | Stanzilla | well depends on what the guys does in the raid |
| 20:05.43 | nevcairiel | if someone wants an item to use it in his main spec, then its mainspec |
| 20:05.52 | nevcairiel | doesnt see the problem |
| 20:05.54 | Stanzilla | I have no idea how good it is for a tank but there are better tank trinkets, that I know |
| 20:05.57 | Stanzilla | so if he IS a tank |
| 20:06.11 | Stanzilla | dps should get it first, and if they already have it, it's off specc for him |
| 20:06.19 | sbu | nevcairiel: so its based on ppl telling you "okay, no problem, its mainspec!" |
| 20:07.10 | sbu | so i will take morchok chest for offspec - and some day decide that its better for mainspec, etc... |
| 20:07.13 | sbu | not easy at all :( |
| 20:07.55 | Stanzilla | you will never decide that |
| 20:08.01 | Stanzilla | BiS lists always exist |
| 20:08.58 | znf | sbu, Mr. Robot ranks that trinket BIS (with Indomitable Pride) for tanks. |
| 20:09.00 | znf | bear tanks, taht is |
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| 20:10.50 | Stanzilla | ferals are always special |
| 20:11.00 | znf | Yup. |
| 20:11.10 | znf | But Agi is still the primary stat (yes, even over stamina) for Bears |
| 20:11.23 | Stanzilla | depends |
| 20:11.30 | Stanzilla | our feral is a stamina guy |
| 20:11.36 | znf | He shouldn't be :P |
| 20:11.48 | Stanzilla | why? |
| 20:11.56 | Stanzilla | it was needed for madness etc |
| 20:12.02 | znf | Because stamina is no fun :-S |
| 20:12.05 | znf | Agi is fun for druids! |
| 20:12.11 | Stanzilla | healers are bored anyway |
| 20:12.49 | znf | give me some healers for Madness HC >_< |
| 20:12.53 | znf | Ours blow sometimes |
| 20:12.55 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 20:13.01 | Stanzilla | I was smiting the whole time this week |
| 20:13.05 | Stanzilla | nothing to do |
| 20:13.16 | znf | They wanted me to soak impales with dispersion |
| 20:13.18 | znf | Told them to fuck off |
| 20:13.20 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 20:13.25 | Stanzilla | that's such a shitty tactic |
| 20:13.42 | znf | If they want to do that, they can use the 3 crappy mages we have. |
| 20:14.10 | Stanzilla | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/zkhhqlgkh9hqca9c/sum/healingDone/?s=9733&e=10528 |
| 20:14.14 | Stanzilla | smite smite smite |
| 20:14.43 | znf | lol |
| 20:14.51 | Torhal|work | smites mckenziemc with Stanzilla. |
| 20:14.59 | znf | Why is your SPriest so low? |
| 20:15.11 | Stanzilla | on hps? |
| 20:15.18 | znf | no, on DPS |
| 20:15.25 | znf | 73k seems low for that fight |
| 20:15.30 | Stanzilla | its ok |
| 20:15.36 | Stanzilla | I would have been better!" |
| 20:15.43 | mckenziemc | feeds Torhal|work to quiescens. |
| 20:15.47 | znf | oh, no Cunning of the Cruel |
| 20:15.55 | Stanzilla | I don't have that one either |
| 20:16.05 | znf | That trinket is so fuckin' OP |
| 20:16.11 | znf | I bet I'm gonna use it in the first tier of raiding in MoP |
| 20:16.25 | znf | (unless they break it so it stops working properly after lvl85) |
| 20:16.39 | Stanzilla | I'm wiping on spine atm |
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| 20:16.58 | Stanzilla | and I couldn't get adrenaline rush ready for the next tendon because I was talking on irc |
| 20:17.02 | Stanzilla | I blame you guys for low dps :< |
| 20:17.13 | znf | I have the feeling we'll wipe again next week on Spine |
| 20:17.31 | znf | we pretty much one-shot spine this week, our first kill |
| 20:17.49 | znf | (technically we wiped once because 3 people got stuck on the boat on the first pull...) |
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| 20:27.08 | sbu | i was at 67k on madness! |
| 20:27.40 | znf | That sounds awfully low. Yet I haven't killed it yet, so I can't know how much will I pull at the end. |
| 20:27.47 | znf | Also, I wonder if I should use the Haste or Mastery build :-? |
| 20:28.10 | znf | Mastery seems much much better for single-target dps (I got ranked @ Ultraxion, yey!) |
| 20:28.42 | sbu | was our first kill, so i think its "okay", also was on ~399 ilvl :( |
| 20:28.51 | sbu | no DI! |
| 20:29.03 | sbu | and no magic debuff |
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| 20:30.11 | sbu | also 25man dps is way higher |
| 20:30.16 | sbu | more adds -> more spellweave procs |
| 20:32.35 | Stanzilla | my 10man firstkill was 70k dps on the warrior |
| 20:32.40 | Stanzilla | but yeah, lots of spellweave |
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| 20:55.29 | sbu | Gnarfoz: shutupandtakemymoney! |
| 20:55.29 | Stanzilla | jumps on sbu |
| 20:58.29 | sbu | follows stupid-account-name |
| 21:00.23 | znf | "Blizzard All-Stars" |
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| 21:23.54 | Stanzilla | sbu: :( all others were taken |
| 21:29.46 | Repo | bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v9.106 * r959 : Tagging as v9.106 |
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| 22:00.18 | sbu | Stanzilla: WTF xmas lights |
| 22:00.29 | Stanzilla | wut |
| 22:03.33 | Megalon | mhm |
| 22:04.53 | Repo | bad-boy: 03funkydude * r960 / (3 files in 1 directory): add Italian translations |
| 22:05.49 | Torhal|work | overclocks Megalon. |
| 22:09.48 | sbu | Gnarfoz: did you "order" pebble? |
| 22:10.18 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 22:10.48 | Megalon | puts a fan in Torhal|work's sleeping room |
| 22:10.58 | Megalon | HAVE FUN DIEING THE INEVITABLE FAN-DEATH |
| 22:11.17 | Torhal|work | Weirdo. |
| 22:11.23 | Torhal|work | makes fun of Megalon. |
| 22:12.24 | Megalon | it's only weird because you are 'MURRICA, FUCK YEAH |
| 22:21.34 | Repo | libquestinfo (experimental): 03angelike * r11 / (11 files in 3 directories): (1 line trimmed from commit message) |
| 22:21.34 | Repo | mostly recoded |
| 22:21.35 | Repo | party not working |
| 22:21.35 | Repo | still experimental |
| 22:21.36 | Repo | editor not working |
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| 23:18.56 | quiescens | o.o |
