IRC log for #wowace on 20120331

00:24.37sylvanaarman, another beta
00:25.01sylvanaari cant resist - even thought I dont even play wow anymore
00:25.49Ali1331v2same sylvanaar !
00:25.50Ali1331v2:D
00:25.57Ali1331v2havent played in years
00:26.19Ali1331v2I figure playing it in a broken stage will reduce my desire to play it on release
00:32.56Mikksnork
00:38.46quiescensdon't do it sylv
00:38.51quiescensdon't do it
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00:39.57Groktaryay mists of pandaria appeared
00:40.10quiescens???
00:40.13quiescensoops
00:40.14quiescens?
00:41.33quiescensdon't do it Groktar
00:42.09Groktary
00:42.22Groktari wanna kill pandas
00:43.01quiescens):
00:43.21Groktarexterminate them all
00:43.28quiescenswhat did the pandas ever do to you
00:44.23Groktarthe existed
00:44.26Groktar*they
00:44.31quiescensracist
00:46.02Groktarnoms a panda cub
00:46.15quiescenso.o
00:46.18Ali1331v2dont kill da pandas
00:46.32Groktari wonder if they're good to eat
00:46.32Ali1331v2and I thought pandaria itself wasnt open yet anyway
00:46.42Groktari thought they opened up a zone
00:47.20quiescenspoor pandas
00:47.25Groktarmmo champ says two zones are open
00:49.50Ali1331v2mmochampion has flyby videos
00:53.00CairennAli1331: the page was done up in the hopes of getting keys at some point, but we still haven't heard whether we will be getting keys or not.  We just did it up so that if we do, it's already to go.
00:53.45Ali1331v2ah ok, just wondered if it was working cause I think I was first :P
00:55.03Cairennyou were 'first' because we haven't opened it up yet
00:55.09Cairennthat's why it isn't linked anywhere
00:55.35Ali1331v2sorry :(
00:55.35Cairennthe three of you that clicked it are all being taken back off, for now at least
00:55.41Ali1331v2aww
00:55.58Cairennwhen we're really ready to go, there will be lots of announcements about it, same as always
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01:00.39TalrynYeah, no problem Cairenn, I was just curious.
01:00.50CairennNo worries, s'all good.  :)
01:07.24Repobad-boy: 03funkydude 04v8.005 * r864 : -Anti-goldspam update
01:07.25Repo-Support for patch 4.3.4
01:07.25Repo-Tagging as v8.005
01:11.19Groktarcreeps up behind Funkeh`s repository
01:11.23Groktarreverts his commits
01:11.54Repoarchy: 03Dridzt 07master * 1.8.22-1-gfaee2e4 Archy.lua: [+1 commit] Pull in updated LibBabble-DigSites-3.0 to fix ticket 387, dig site error on french client. Add a way for users to dismiss and ignore the incompatible TomTom setting warning for the current Archy version.
01:28.05Repoblood-shield-tracker: 03talryn1 07master * 0.16-11-g1f2bf7e BloodShieldTracker.lua: [+1 commit] Remove the checks from PWS, Illum Heal, and DA aura scans.
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01:33.58quiescenspats repo
01:34.33Groktaris excited about doing the rollout for work tonight
01:35.02quiescensthrows a spanner into the works
01:35.55Groktargasps
02:05.31Groktargood lord this svn merge is taking forever oO
02:05.38Groktarblames quiescens
02:06.07quiescensdies.
02:06.28Torhalblames whoever decided to use SVN.
02:06.39TorhalSVN merge? GOOD LUCK!
02:07.28Groktarhey, it's only been going for 10 minutes now!
02:07.48Torhalgit-svn to migrate that shit, IMO.
02:07.59Groktarwe've talked about it
02:08.21Groktaranyway, we always commit to a branch, which then gets merged over to a staging branch
02:08.25TorhalBe proactive! Ninja that shit!
02:08.25Groktarwhen i'm merging into the trunk now
02:08.43Groktari also get to resync 3 mysql slaves that my boss managed to bork
02:08.50TorhalHawt.
02:08.55TorhalYour boss sounds pretty cool.
02:08.57Torhal<.<
02:08.59Torhal>.>
02:09.01Torhalv.v
02:09.09Groktarhe denies doing it
02:09.20Groktarbut i SAW him running alters on the table that broke replication
02:09.28TorhalHah
02:09.54Groktarluckily i normally don't have alter
02:09.58Groktarso i can't bork it
02:09.59Groktar:p
02:10.02Groktaryay merge finished
02:11.55Groktarloves the way he has logins to the production servers but not the beta ones
02:12.13TorhalYour boss is winning.
02:12.44Groktar:p
02:12.56Groktari got elected to do all the server setup when we moved from rackspace to a colo
02:16.32Groktarscrew hiring IT people!
02:57.36arkanesoh mah gawd, pandas
03:01.41Reporoleicons: 03oscarucb * r59 RoleIcons.lua: fix a rare lua error on startup
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03:25.57TorhalFoof.
03:26.07Torhalsews arkanes up in a cute little panda outfit.
03:55.46[Wobin]hahaha svn merge
03:55.55[Wobin]have they made that process any easier/
03:55.56[Wobin]?
04:37.46arkanes[Wobin]: yeah actually
04:37.53arkaneswith a sufficiently recent SVN
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05:37.20Repotier-tooltip: 03oscarucb * r44 Core.lua: fix incorrect T11 item codes
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08:28.04quiescensblah
08:29.41Humbedoohblah yourself
08:29.48quiescens):
08:29.58quiescensgoto sleep
08:30.07Humbedoohcan't! I'm fixing bugs and stuff!
08:30.17quiescensexcuses
08:30.34Humbedoohand going "squee" when I close a ticket with WONTFIX ;>
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09:08.10sbumorning!
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09:39.16mckenziemcnight
09:39.18mckenziemczzzzz
09:41.27Stanzillamr mikk
09:52.07znfwonder if there's a point in refreshing that account page
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09:55.03sbuwonder if there's a point in refreshing quiescens
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10:36.09Repotier-tooltip: 03oscarucb * r45 Core.lua: add T12 codes
10:41.45MikkStanzilla: wut
10:42.18Yoshimonot really
10:42.52StanzillaMikk: fix pls http://www.wowace.com/addons/weakauras/tickets/252-error-on-thumbnail-creation-on-import-of-some-displays/ :p so when can tag a good release :o
10:43.10Mikk__|__
10:43.18Mikkmy best solution for that would be to pcall() the thumbnail creator
10:45.08Stanzilla:D
10:47.25Stanzillagood idea mikk, looking forward to testing what you will do!
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10:48.09nevcairielhe reported the issue, since when do reporters also fix things around here. :p
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10:55.19mitchnullwtf... on this music radio I listened to some religious bastards took over and now all I get is an infinite loop from 2-3 lines from the bible :(
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11:24.00Mikknevcairiel: stanzilla is being very speshul in regards to weakauras & me :P
11:26.34Chosiis there a way to import gathermate data into archy? i like the colored dots on the minimap that change color based on distance
11:57.02MikkChosi: request the feature for gathermate
12:05.15Chosiexport to archy or the colored dots thing? :)
12:05.48Chosii think i should rather request it for archy
12:05.54Chosiit could just make use of the imported data
12:06.38znfChosi, uhm, you're missing the point
12:06.52znfthe "data" itself doesn't color the dot
12:07.04znfit's a feature of archy
12:07.44Repotier-tooltip: 03oscarucb * r46 Core.lua: reduce memory churn
12:08.12nevcairielwhat does the color make a difference for? You can see the distance from .. uhm .. the distance! :)
12:08.29Chosiznf: but archy has its own coords db as it seems
12:08.45znfthat's not the point dude...
12:08.45Chosiso i have colored archy dots + gathermate circles on the minimap
12:08.50Chosiit is my point.
12:09.01znfso turn off gathermate's archaeology nodes if that bothers you
12:09.29Chosiit bothers me, that archy doesn't have all the _data nodes
12:09.33Chosithat's it.
12:10.02Chosidoesn't even bother me, it would be a nice to have
12:10.33nevcairielnot really, unless archy thingys also turn into circles, otherwise they would block the real node icons that indicate something spawned
12:10.58Chosiyou don't need that for archeology
12:11.04Chosibecause things don't spawn.
12:11.51Chosiwell, they do once you found them
12:11.55Chosibut you don't have to see them
12:12.00znfStill don't understand what your issue is
12:12.02Chosicause you're standing right next to it
12:12.15Chosiznf: i already understood you don't get it.
12:12.28znfbecause you're not doing a good job explaining it :)
12:12.53nevcairielhe is just complaining that gathermate has more data then archy
12:13.10Chosiarchy doesn't seem to have any data at all until i found something
12:13.15Chosithen it places a dot on the map
12:13.45Repogridstatustankcooldown: 03slaren * r34 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Updated spell list contributed by savethetrees
12:13.51znfhmmm, I'm pretty sure that back in 4.0 Archy had some sort of pre-populated database
12:14.28Chosiso after some time i have archy dots. so i search for an artifact and get the regular distance indicator. based on my current position all thte surrounded _archy_ dots are colored in distance colors
12:14.44Chosiso i know which spots make sense
12:14.58znfhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/archy/tickets/381-would-it-be-possible-to-import-gathermate-data/
12:15.01znfThere's your answer.
12:15.36Chosiit's an excuse, but yes, thanks =)
12:16.05znfstill, I'm pretty sure I had a pre-populated data for archy :-/
12:16.11znfdatabase*
12:16.19znfbut I could be wrong, as I haven't done any archaeology in over a year
12:17.45Repogridstatustankcooldown: 03slaren 04v1.6c * r35 : Tagging as v1.6c
12:39.29ThiefMaster~seen oscarub
12:39.32purlThiefMaster: i haven't seen 'oscarub'
12:40.33ThiefMaster~seen oscarucb
12:40.33purloscarucb <~oscarucb@d149-67-185-199.try.wideopenwest.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 8h 37m 50s ago, saying: 'it hasnt even had a toc bump in 1.5 years'.
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14:04.01Repobad-boy: 03funkydude * r865 BadBoy.lua: anti-goldspam update
14:07.07Repotier-tooltip: 03oscarucb * r47 Core.lua:  (2 lines trimmed from commit message)
14:07.07Repolocalize the addon
14:07.08Repoall the english strings have been replaced by locale-independent tokens
14:07.08Reporeorganize the labeling of class spec and raid difficulty to make everything more uniform
14:07.09Repoadjust the RegisterSet arguments to support all this
14:08.47Reposexymap: 03funkydude 07master * v1.2.6-4-g9787a39 / (5 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] remove aceconsole embed
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14:48.22MikkMy contribution to world electricity consumption (and gfx card lifetimes) of the day: http://www.wowace.com/paste/5005/    (weakauras trigger that sets your maxfps to 30 while standing still, otherwise 60)
14:48.44Mikksent my gf's graphicscard temp from 50C to 37C
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14:50.48Stanzillawhere is the tooltips fix, Mikk
14:53.12znfMikk, can you make my passively cooled GPu to go to 37°C? :D
14:53.29Mikktry it? =)
14:53.41znfdon't think that would help me
14:53.50znfI don't get 60fps in raids :D
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14:53.58Mikkno me neither
14:54.04sbumhh, there must be a reason why i switched from weakauras to powerauras again...
14:54.07sbujust can't remember :D
14:54.11Stanzillathe tooltip bug
14:54.14Mikkyou like having your CPU eaten?
14:54.17Stanzilla;D
14:54.33znfbought a new CPU and you needed a benchmark?
14:54.40Mikkactually i have a sneaky suspicion that i haven't tested yet
14:54.48sbuMikk: i don't care since my cpu is more than enough for wow :p
14:54.50Mikktheory: the WA import bug only happens if you haven't opened the config yet
14:55.10znfso is mine, except for 25man raids :(
14:55.28Mikkznf: really though, if your FPS is >60 while doing nothing much... use the fps adaptor =)
14:55.42znfI have vsync enabled...
14:55.45sbuor use vsync
14:55.45Mikker.. >30
14:55.46sbuyep
14:55.50Mikki meant >30
14:55.51znfalso, I use maxfpsbk 15
14:56.05znfso unless I'm in the game...
14:56.11Mikkyeah i have 10 in background
15:07.47Stanzillaso did you fix it yet, Mikk
15:26.02znfMikk, Mikk mimimimimimimimikk
15:26.03znferm
15:26.10znfHelp with WeakAuras
15:26.49znfhttp://www.wowace.com/paste/5006/ <--- I have this
15:27.21znfGod damn aura thing won't turn off if I unequip the ring until I go into the configuration menu
15:28.04znfOh. I fixed.
15:28.07znfFalse alarm.
15:30.13Stanzillaman znf you suck
15:31.06znfweird, I run like 3 weeks with this "issue"
15:31.10znfand didn't notice it until I pasted :D
15:33.59Mikkwell you trigger on a stupid event
15:34.01Mikkyour problem :P
15:34.34Mikkah nm my bad
15:34.44MikkANYWAY wtf is up with people assuming i'm some sort of WA god :P
15:34.58nevcairielyou just have that smell to you, ya know
15:35.07Mikki haven't showered for a couple of days...
15:35.22nevcairielsee
15:35.34nevcairielit attracts the flys
15:36.10znfMikk, you once submitted a patch... :D
15:37.09Stanzillanah basicly I just annoy Mikk all the time because he knows the bug and deep in his heart he really wants to fix it
15:37.46Funkeh`Mikk, so I heard you like WA
15:38.08nevcairieli think he went showering now
15:38.42Stanzillahaha
15:38.45Funkeh`lol...
15:41.10znfoh
15:41.16znfthe WA author kind of quit :-|
15:41.20znfI hate it when that happens
15:41.30znfbut I bet that Mikk is willing to take over if it stops working
15:42.16Mikkarmlocks znf's head with nose-in-armpit
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16:28.14arkanesoops :(
16:28.31ThiefMasterhacks your account
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16:36.37Yoshimoznf what is WA?
16:36.45znfYoshimo, WeakAuras
16:38.33Yoshimo@describe weakauras
16:39.30pompy~lart Yoshimo
16:39.30purlinstalls PocketPC on Yoshimo's PDA
16:39.38pompy@project weakauras
16:39.38Repopompy: [WoW] WeakAuras (Updated Mar 30, 2012 at 22:35 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/weakauras/
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19:15.49TalrynThe quest rewards in the beta are directed to your current class and spec.  If you want to level in a non-DPS spec, especially a tank spec, that could be an issue.  The dodge/parry gear isn't going to be useful for leveling.  Perhaps adding a choice would be nice.
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19:32.26MikkYoshimo: WeakAuras = PowerAuras except takes a _fraction_ of the CPU and much friendlier UI.
19:33.03nevcairielIf you can write a trigger to change the fps cvar, i can already tell you that its way too much for a aura addon. :P
19:35.53Stanzillayou can build your whole interface with it
19:39.54Yoshimowhat is wrong with http://pastebin.com/C9rxQJrm ?
19:40.43Mikknevcairiel: It allows you to write your own Lua triggers. It's not like WA itself knows how to fiddle FPS. I do it.
19:40.58nevcairiellike i said
19:41.02nevcairielway too much for an aura addon
19:41.24Stanzillanope :<
19:42.16Mikkyou don't understand the purpose of this class of addons
19:42.20Mikkit's not just "show me my buffs"
19:42.26Mikkit's "show anything whatever way i like"
19:42.42nevcairieli stand by my statement
19:42.53Mikkshrugs
19:43.04Mikkit makes a hell of a lot easier to make a UI that works well for you
19:43.13Mikkinstead of just having a bunch of bars
19:43.22Mikkyou can actually display thing as different graphics in different places of the screen
19:43.28Mikkor texts
19:43.30Mikkor bars
19:43.31Mikkor sounds
19:44.08Mikki use it to push out important notifications to our raid
19:44.22Mikkinstead of just having them as one more bar in $bossmod_of_choice
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19:55.21elegoshello!
19:55.47elegosI've got a project in mind, but I never ever created a GUI, nor I've ever messed with the default UI to hook into it.
19:56.22elegosMy idea is to create custom fields in the quest log, under a custom category with their own requests
19:56.55Mikkdo you know any programming language?
19:56.56elegosfor example, category "Addon category", quest name "My custom quest", description "yadda yadda" objectives: "create X objects"
19:57.11elegosI know C/C++, C#, I worked on Lua too
19:57.20elegosa little of Objective C
19:57.21Mikkthen dive headfirst in i guess? ;)
19:58.05elegosuhm... what do you mean? I don't understand the locution :)
19:58.32Mikkit seems to me that you know what you want and have requisite knowledge to get started
19:58.35Mikkwelcome to ui modding ;)
19:58.51elegoshell yeah :)
19:59.37elegossoooo... where could I start? I know how to create a "hello world" addon (I have just to follow a stupid tutorial)... but how to hook inside the quest log?
19:59.49Mikkyou need to extract framexml and see the code
19:59.59Mikk~framexml
19:59.59purlmethinks framexml is Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml
20:00.00elegosfrom the wow addon kit maybe?
20:00.19Mikkit used to be that yes
20:00.23Mikknow it's in the console
20:00.41elegosin the console?
20:01.47elegosahhh I see
20:03.34elegosI've executed Wow.exe with the -console argument, how can I access it? (I've got an european keyboard if you tell me to use ~ :P )
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20:10.48hasteelegos: key is ` by default I think, so try using alt-gr to trigger it
20:11.45elegosI tried, no chance
20:12.02elegosbtw the grave accent should be ALTGR+0096 if I'm not wrong
20:13.05hasteyou could try logging in and run SetConsoleKey('somethingsane') and log out and try again
20:13.18elegosyeah I was trying that one
20:14.35elegoscan I use a modifier?
20:14.44elegosi.e. CTRL+ALT+\?
20:15.08hasteCTRL-ALT-? in that case, no idea if it works however
20:15.40elegosuhm, according to wowpedia no, only standard ASCII
20:15.54Mikkelegos: switch to US keyboard layout
20:15.56Mikkhit topleft key
20:16.45elegosThis should be sufficient ./script SetConsoleKey("ù");
20:17.03elegosI was joking <.<
20:17.14elegosI'll try your way
20:18.18elegosAmerican - International or Dvorak?
20:18.30elegosor United States? Damn Microsoft :)
20:18.53elegos`
20:18.56elegosok should be fine
20:20.12elegosuhm, wow's keyboard is still in italian (>.>)
20:20.36hasteremove the default one
20:21.20elegosdone!
20:23.07elegosextracting files... where could I learn more about the FrameXML syntax? I know XML, not the WoW's particular format
20:24.16hasteits just XML with rules defined in UI.xsd
20:28.41elegosfor example, this line: GameTooltip_AddNewbieTip(self, ABANDON_QUEST, 1.0, 1.0, 1.0, NEWBIE_TOOLTIP_ABANDONQUEST, 1);
20:28.57elegosis actually an API call? Can't see it in wowprogramming.com's reference list
20:30.46elegosI think I'd be interested in the QuestLogFrame frame, right?
20:38.54elegosI think I've isolated the function which is fired every time the quest log is opened, QuestLog_Update()
20:39.16elegosmay you please help me editing it adding a custom, static new quest just to understand how it works?
20:39.24elegosQuestLogFrame.lua lines 345+
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