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03:49.50Primerwtf, cc is showing adds
03:50.30pompyPrimer: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/not-receiving-your-complimentary-premium-read-this/
03:50.35pompystill not fixed ><
03:50.55Primerthanks
04:00.01oscarucbis BlizzBugsSuck still actively maintained?
04:02.10pompy@project blizzbugssuck
04:02.11Repopompy: [WoW] BlizzBugsSuck (Updated Nov 28, 2010 at 17:35 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/blizzbugssuck/
04:02.17pompy^
04:02.18oscarucbyea thanks i know where to find it
04:02.30oscarucbNov 2010 is why I ask
04:02.43oscarucbit hasnt even had a toc bump in 1.5 years
04:22.31quiescens!
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07:54.19znfhowever, all Annual Pass holders will be invited before any opt-ins.
07:54.22znfwhat a bunch of bullshit
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09:43.49Neurox_sup
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09:49.04sbuznf: huh?
09:49.29sbuznf: 2 guildies just got their invitation
09:50.34nevcairielMaybe they have annual pass? :)
09:50.48sbuerr yes
09:51.34nevcairielI think he was just complaining that annual pass has precedence over opt in
09:51.38sbui see :)
09:52.07nevcairielYou can still get the annual pass, so don't complain :p
09:52.38Neurox_can we get addon author keys already :p
09:52.55dieckthough it's not consistent. I booked annual pass right away, and some guildies who did that way later already have their invitations, me not - but it's ok, I wouldn't have the time now, anyway :)
09:53.22nevcairielAddons are disabled, no point for author keys. :p
09:53.48Neurox_cata beta had them before addons were enabled, but its early days yet
10:05.46Dridzthmm just got beta (EU) ...
10:08.32Neurox_yay?:p
10:08.59Neurox_why is the beta downloader so slow
10:09.11Neurox_P2P is turned on but isnt doing anything
10:09.13Neurox_0.00kb/s
10:11.05quiescensgive it a week or two
10:11.53Caleb|there was a patch earlier today, I had 6MB/s
10:12.35Caleb|are you sure the correct ports are open on your router and such
10:13.24Neurox_which ports is it
10:13.48Caleb|don't know from top of my head, but surely you can google it, it is 6118 or something like that, not sure
10:14.06Neurox_theres no blocking filters on
10:17.03znfsbu, well, I didn't
10:17.22znfnevcairiel, no, I have the anual pass, since the 22th
10:17.53znfnevcairiel, I'm complaining that a friend of mine that doesn't have the anual pass and hasn't played since 2010 (ie: no active account), got beta in first wave
10:19.17StanzillaI still dont have an invite
10:23.10nevcairielI blacklisted you
10:23.18Stanzilla:(
10:26.16nevcairielAlso, they send out invites based on many factors, just because someone gets one doesn't mean he was from opt in or annual pass. Complaining is stupid anyway, its still month till release, and getting in earlier doesn't give you anything, except more bugs. :p
10:28.06Neurox_ooo i have an upload rate now, surely that means I can download p2p too
10:28.13Neurox_1 byte/s!
10:29.41Neurox_why doesnt the download give a peer list these days
10:29.52nevcairielPeople are way too obsessed with beta access. All I will really use it for is fixing my addons once enabled, otherwise I'll probably spent a few hours exploring, but not much
10:30.11Neurox_I don't plan on paying for the game/sub when it comes out
10:30.25Neurox_I dont play wow now, so I'll use the beta to play MoP for free and get bored of it like I did with cata
10:40.50quiescensmy view of betas is mostly
10:41.00quiescensmeh i'll play it when its released
10:41.37quiescensbut i probably won't do that because i would be too far behind to be bothered catching up as it is
10:41.52quiescensd3 though!
10:44.41Neurox_mmm disabling windows firewall seems to have worked
10:45.48quiescensoh noes
10:46.38Neurox_meh still only getting 8kb/s from p2p, useless downloader
10:50.39quiescensthat's not bad
10:50.46Neurox_yes it is :p
10:50.49quiescens8000 times faster than before
10:51.16Neurox_maybe just nobody wants to share with me :(
11:08.40Mikkhaving inbound ports open makes a huge difference for p2p
11:08.45Mikkbecause so many people do not have them open
11:08.52Mikkso if you do, you get their bandwidth
11:11.32quiescensbut then the evil hackers will take over your computer!
11:12.53Torhalhacks at quiescens with a computer.
11:14.24znfNeurox_, maybe your ISP is throttling you
11:16.43quiescensdies.
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11:54.44Neurox_I doubt it znf
11:55.01Neurox_direct download is at 200-300kb/s
11:55.58bluspacecow'sup Neurox_
11:56.05Neurox_hi
11:56.24bluspacecowwatch cha doin
11:56.32Neurox_err nothing
11:56.35Neurox_do I know you?
11:56.58bluspacecowpossibly not :D
11:57.15Neurox_I know there's a Neurox around here somewhere
11:57.49bluspacecowi was just wondering which direct d/l links you were using
11:59.36Neurox_well it's the installer so w/e blizz is giving me
11:59.46bluspacecowD3 or beta ?
11:59.57Neurox_beta
12:00.30bluspacecowhttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4253966199
12:02.48MikkNeurox_: It's not unheard of ISPs throttling peer-to-peer traffic. Quite the opposite.
12:03.01Neurox_other p2p traffic works fine
12:03.13bluspacecowi have noticed you can replace parts of the URLs on there for the other CDNs from http://ak.worldofwarcraft.com.edgesuite.net/wow-pod/public-test/config_recommended_pfil_15148_ML.xml
12:03.29bluspacecowgot _slightly_ better download speeds
12:09.29Neurox_I get the same speeds, so without knowing which files the installer is behind on there's little point in direct downloading through a browser
12:10.00Neurox_I expected better speeds :( what a waste of 100mbit connection
12:16.49znfNeurox_, no, I mean, it could be possible that they're throttling p2p downloads
12:17.06Neurox_they've never throttled p2p before though
12:17.09Neurox_oh
12:17.09Neurox_blizzard?
12:17.13znfno, your ISP
12:17.19Neurox_ISP never has
12:17.24znfthere's always a start
12:17.29znfmy previous one "never did", too
12:17.39znfuntil one day they flipped the switch
12:18.00znf(and they were only throttling bittorrent traffic)
12:18.21znfand keep in mind the Blizzard downloader is using BiTtorrent, even the new one, altough a modified version
12:19.55Neurox_hmm might not be p2p...speedtest is saying I have 3mbps...
12:22.46Neurox_router page isnt loading...seems the terribad virgin media thing needs a restart
12:22.55quiescensgrats
12:23.31Mikkoh dear. virgin media.
12:23.34MikkI KNOW WHAT YOUR PROBLEM IS
12:24.03sbuso your router is a virgin?
12:24.12Mikkvirgin media is a brittish ISP
12:24.25Mikkalarm bells go off already at that point ("brittish ISP")
12:24.27sbubritish, yes, i know what your problem is :p
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12:52.03Torhal|workTurn off the p2p aspect, perhaps?
12:57.34nevcairiel~ping
12:57.34purl~pong
12:57.44Funkeh`Virgin Media has always sucked
12:57.48Funkeh`never heard good things
12:58.05nevcairiel@ping
12:58.06Reponevcairiel: pong
12:58.16haste!ping
12:58.19hasteneed more bots!
12:58.29Reposexymap: 03funkydude 07master * v1.2.6-3-g2ce9fc8 / (12 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] No need to set a global SexyMap, cleanup AutoZoom (remove hook)
12:59.19StanzillaFunkeh`: not using your own map addon anymore?
12:59.42Funkeh`on some characters
13:00.23StanzillaO_O
13:01.11Funkeh`I've used SexyMap for ages on others, just couldn't be arsed figuring out git
13:01.40hastenot really much to figure out :P
13:02.16Funkeh`Well it took me an hour trying to figure out why SSH wasnt working
13:02.24Funkeh`which I fixed by making a new key...
13:02.28Stanzillahehe
13:02.31hastethat isn't really a git problem tho'!
13:02.54Funkeh`can you use it without ssh?
13:03.18StanzillaI never tried
13:09.09hasteFunkeh`: there's http as well
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13:09.20hastebut its not like adding SSH keys should be an issue
13:09.35hasteonly downside is that you _might_ have to specify the one it should use for the pus
13:09.38hasteh
13:09.43hastedepending on how you manage ssh keys and so on
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14:30.44znfwell, now this is a hard decision
14:30.54znfwhich ending to do in ME3
14:31.03ThiefMasterthey all suck
14:33.06sbuznf: ashley!
14:35.15MikkAnyone with US beta account mind reposting http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3553607148 there?  I _really_ don't trust EU dweebs to get this info to devs
14:39.43znfyup, they all suck
14:40.16znfI can't believe they managed to do such a good franchise (altough ME3 sucked compared to the other 2 games), only to have it end so shitty
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14:42.30znfin other words, my ISP blows cock today
14:43.04znf90% of websites don't load on port 80
14:46.43znfanything else works perfectly, still getting ~90Mbit/sec on speedtests :-?
14:50.09dieckznf: last time I encountered something similiar, my laptop was still running on company proxy, without vpn :)
14:50.27znfwouldn't that deny connections completely? :P
14:51.21quiescensgoto sleep
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14:51.59dieckznf: actually, pretty much, yes. But I have quite some bookmarks on IPs, for testing purposes, which went through fine, as proxy configuration didn't touch those
14:52.29znfAh, I see :)
14:54.05znfsupports Mikk's request
14:55.36Mikksupport it by getting it on US beta forums!
14:55.56znfI don't have an US account! :(
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15:00.42dieckhm. I got my beta invite, and despite not having time at all, I just started downloading :) But it's very slow, with or without p2p.
15:00.46dieckI remember it was possible to download via alternative torrent clients like utorrent before, which speeded the downloads up quite a lot. Is this still an option?
15:04.06znfnope
15:04.32hasteis getting 981 KB/s
15:04.35znfthe "new" launcher is using a variation of the bittorrent protocol
15:04.45hastewithout p2p
15:04.54znfyou can't just extract the .torrent and slap it in a torrent client anymore
15:07.04dieckthat's sad
15:07.40dieckI'm getting 370k, with 4m possible maximum
15:12.46znfI got 3-4MB/sec on the 1st day
15:12.56znfbut there weren't too many peers
15:13.04znfand the CDN was hammered
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16:18.17quiescensshrugs
16:18.54quiescensat really big scales p2p doesn't really assure maximum speed
16:19.15quiescensmost consumer connections have a much higher download than upload after all
16:19.23Repobig-wigs: 03funkydude * r9061 / (3 files in 2 directories): ptBR update by renanwar
16:20.14quiescenspats repo
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17:09.05dieckgrpmf. wondered about the slow speed of beta downloader... talked with znf about work vpn... disconnecting work vpn over 2 hours later and speed goes up by factor 5
17:09.50nevcairiellol
17:10.20Mikkuuuuhhh
17:10.26Mikktunnel p2p via work? =P
17:13.01bluspacecow<PROTECTED>
17:13.04bluspacecowtry bypassing it
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17:13.43bluspacecowthere appears to be a choice of 3 CDNs at the top of http://ak.worldofwarcraft.com.edgesuite.net/wow-pod/public-test/config_recommended_pfil_15148_ML.xml you can modify the URL to download from those CDNs
17:15.19nevcairielpeople just have sucky connections. beta client and latest beta patch i downloaded at full speed (40-50mbit)
17:17.39diecknevcairiel: here it comes up to my 32mbit, now. though only 85k p2p :)
17:17.52sbunevcairiel: nah, latest patch was like 300kb/s for me
17:17.56sbuand my connection is fine
17:18.35nevcairielso you claim
17:18.41nevcairielstill, i got it at full speed =P
17:18.50sbuwhen did you DL?
17:19.05nevcairieldunno, when i got home from work
17:19.25Stanzillacheck if your internet connection settings are set to automatically detect settings
17:19.31Stanzillathat's teh secret
17:21.14bluspacecow<---------- downloaded at work about a week ago
17:21.53Stanzillabecause there is no internet in down under
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17:40.37groktartrims Stanzilla
17:44.45znfwoah, the space cow is an MVP too!
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18:19.06dieckso, encountered a bug while creating a char :)
18:19.22dieckstarts early this time :)
18:22.44dieckhm, does battle.net real id not work in beta? I'm not seeing my friends
18:23.35nevcairielit does work, but only with other beta people, its a separate system
18:23.46dieckah, ok. so I have to add them anew?
18:23.48TalrynThey wipe the friends list.
18:23.51TalrynYes
18:24.02nevcairielonly works if they are in beta, though
18:24.13nevcairielalso, real id friends added in beta stay on the list for ever
18:24.22nevcairieli still have mikma on there from last beta =P
18:24.41nevcairiel(real id that is)
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18:44.40Ali1331I hate these download speeds
18:47.32Ali1331I had to redownload the installer file and I got that at 7mb/s so why I only get <70kb/s in the launcher now is a bit weird
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19:00.39StanzillaFunkeh`: basiccombopoints doesn't do holypower, right?
19:03.30Funkeh`no it does combo points
19:08.46Stanzilla:(
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19:17.03Funkeh`Isn't the default bar sexy enough
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19:19.03Repolibbabble-digsites-3-0: 03dridzt * r18 LibBabble-DigSites-3.0.lua:
19:19.03Repo- touch to package updated frFR translation; Archy ticket #387
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19:27.27StanzillaFunkeh`: meh, I just wanted all of that kind of information at the same place and in the same style
19:27.37Stanzillalik CP, HP, lightning shield stacks blabla
19:27.49Stanzillaand weakauras somehow
19:27.56Stanzillareally fucks up text display
19:28.11Stanzillaif you make the fonts bigger it just looks bad
19:31.18StanzillaI told Mikk to fix that but nobody listens to me (
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19:41.04znfMikk, fix that!
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21:02.47znfweee
21:02.52znfgoogle can now plot stuff 3D
21:03.01znftime to input random numbers and equations to see how they look
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21:33.11Repotier-tooltip: 03ThiefMaster * r41 TierTooltip.toc: Bump TOC
21:35.06Repotier-tooltip: 03ThiefMaster * r42 Core.lua: add t11
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22:10.32MikkStanzilla: use a better font nubcake
22:10.46StanzillaMikk: it's got nothing to do with the font :<
22:10.54Mikkmmkay?
22:11.13StanzillaWA somehow scales fonts instead of using a bigger font size or so
22:11.14Stanzillalooks weird
22:11.24Mikkeuh okay
22:12.48Mikkyou're right
22:12.59Mikk<PROTECTED>
22:12.59Mikk<PROTECTED>
22:13.03Mikknow why the hell it does that beats me
22:13.11Mikkanything over 25 pts will look derp
22:13.44Stanzillayes
22:13.45StanzillaMikk: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22349357/wa.png
22:13.46Stanzillathere
22:13.48Stanzillacraptopia
22:14.14Mikkyank out the conditional.  RegionTypes\text.lua    line 43
22:15.22Mikkfunnily enough it does NOT do that for e.g. progressbars
22:15.29Mikkso if you make a huge fooking progressbar it should look fine
22:15.32Stanzillalooks a bit better
22:15.45Mikkcan probably yank out the SetTextHeight call too
22:16.25Stanzillaat size 35 the number stops getting bigger out btw
22:16.31Stanzilla-out
22:16.43Mikklimitation of wow's font renderer i'd imagine
22:17.03Stanzillaprobably
22:17.17Stanzillabut Funkeh` has nice and crispy big numbers in BasicComboPoints
22:17.38Mikktry another font then
22:17.43Stanzilladoing that now
22:21.14Stanzillahttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/22349357/wa2.png
22:21.20Stanzillaleft is wa right is bcp
22:21.23Stanzillavery close now
22:22.35StanzillaMikk: so what we could do is replace the 25 in that conditional by 35
22:23.14Mikkif you have sources checked out.... :P
22:23.24StanzillaI do
22:23.46Mikki dont for some reason
22:24.00Stanzillayou're protection
22:24.10Stanzillayou don't want me to bother your for fixes all the time
22:24.13Mikkhahaha
22:24.19MikkAS IF THAT STOPS YOU
22:24.23StanzillaNO
22:24.25StanzillaBUT NICE TRY
22:24.48Mikk:D
22:26.34Repoweakauras: 03stanzilla * r209 RegionTypes/text.lua:
22:26.35Repolet's try this madness only when fonts are set to be bigger than 35
22:26.40Stanzillagreat success
22:28.41StanzillaSearch "StaticPop" (9 hits in 3 files)
22:28.43Stanzillawohoo
22:28.55Stanzillathought that there are way more
22:33.25Repoweakauras: 03stanzilla * r210 / (2 files in 2 directories):
22:33.25Repotry to avoid some UI taint by setting preferredIndex to 3 for StaticPopupDialogs
22:33.38Stanzillainb4 everything's broken
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23:03.23Ali1331v2just to let you guys know that wowinterface's beta key queue page is up, at least I think so there's a lot of links to cata stuff still so it might not be working properly
23:04.56TalrynWhat is the URL to the page?  I don't see anything on the front page.
23:05.24Ali1331v2http://www.wowinterface.com/beta.php like I said may not be working 100% yet
23:06.24TalrynOk, thanks.
23:07.10TalrynPage seems to work but, yes, the links for the forums and add-ons all point to the Cata stuff.
23:07.47Ali1331v2complete offchance I found it, just google for "mop beta key addon author" like 10 mins ago
23:08.30Talryn:-)  At first I thought you were announcing it.
23:14.18quiescenso.o
23:20.07Ali1331v2i was going to ask about it in the channel but it seems to be invite only
23:20.31Mikkwhich? #WoWUIDev?
23:20.47Ali1331v2#wowinterface i assumed that was theirs
23:29.29Repogrid2: 03michaelspain * r674 / (19 files in 5 directories):  (7 lines trimmed from commit message)
23:29.29Repo* Death status:
23:29.30RepoRefactored, this must fix the ticket #286 too (not tested).
23:29.30Repo* Offline status:
23:29.31RepoChanged the way offline condition is detected. Now an unit
23:30.16quiescenso.o
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23:45.25Mikkstill wondering what the reason for grid2 is
23:45.36Mikk"uses unitGUIDs" isn't exactly on the list anymore
23:52.45quiescensits newer!
23:53.06quiescenseveryone knows that a higher number is better

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