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| 03:00.31 | moop | I intend to eventually make a small mod that changes the colour of nameplates depending on whether they are attacking me or not (I'm a tank) |
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| 03:47.46 | Repo | But it's still completely useless ... |
| 03:47.46 | Repo | Slightly more tasteful anchoring. Only slightly. |
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| 06:20.22 | znf | http://www.wowdb.com/spells/78204/#15354-15464 <--- this is extremly gay |
| 06:20.55 | znf | like I don't have enough sells to use, now I have to summon shadowy apparitions by myself?! |
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| 06:21.31 | znf | and Vampiric Embrace is a 15second spell?! |
| 06:21.43 | sbu | and you have to recast sw:p :D |
| 06:21.52 | sbu | its like "press everything that flashes" at the moment |
| 06:22.07 | sbu | its hard to keep dots running |
| 06:22.28 | sbu | 3 * mb, use shadowy app. |
| 06:22.29 | znf | oh, you're in the beta? |
| 06:22.49 | sbu | every 1.2 mindblasts use SW:D (with correct talent) |
| 06:22.50 | sbu | yep |
| 06:23.04 | znf | time to step my priest aside, then |
| 06:23.07 | sbu | and then you are also supposed to mindflay :p |
| 06:23.15 | sbu | pressing 5 keys at the same time! |
| 06:23.25 | sbu | well no, i think it can be fun - somehow.. ;) |
| 06:23.32 | znf | I like the way my spec works now. |
| 06:23.38 | znf | I have enough buttons to keep track off. |
| 06:23.39 | sbu | seems a bit DKish |
| 06:23.49 | znf | so, let me get this straight |
| 06:23.52 | sbu | like keeping diseases up and press everything that flashes :p |
| 06:24.17 | znf | I need to keep 3 dots up, while I fill with mind flay, cast mind blast, shadowy apparitions, and preferably vampiric embrace manually, too? |
| 06:25.31 | sbu | devouring plague seems to be gone :p |
| 06:25.47 | znf | so if mind blast has no cost (only mana), why do I need mind flay? |
| 06:26.03 | sbu | 6s cooldown |
| 06:26.20 | znf | and the orbs are used for what? |
| 06:26.24 | znf | only shadowy apparitions? |
| 06:26.25 | sbu | shadowy app. |
| 06:26.34 | znf | that's it?! |
| 06:26.35 | sbu | i think so, not 100% sure about that |
| 06:26.46 | sbu | also evanggelism didn't stack for me, maybe something is missing |
| 06:26.56 | sbu | (and that would be the reason to flay actually :p) |
| 06:27.24 | znf | then what's with the lvl45 talent? |
| 06:27.29 | znf | "From Darkness, Comes Light" |
| 06:27.45 | znf | mentions something about Mind Blast costing no orbs |
| 06:28.02 | sbu | nothing about mind blast in there |
| 06:28.08 | sbu | "You have a 20% chance when you deal damage with Vampiric Touch to cause your next Mind Spike to be instant and not extinguish your Shadow damage-over-time effects from the target." |
| 06:28.25 | znf | oh god |
| 06:28.34 | sbu | better not take this talent |
| 06:28.38 | sbu | i prefer archangel :D |
| 06:28.49 | sbu | oh wait... |
| 06:28.56 | znf | free mind spike :-/ |
| 06:29.12 | sbu | yes, archangel :D |
| 06:29.22 | znf | and now Vampiric Touch does healing, again?! |
| 06:29.24 | znf | just by itself?! |
| 06:29.37 | znf | then what the fuck is the lvl90 talent? |
| 06:29.41 | znf | "Vampiric Dominance"? |
| 06:29.53 | sbu | 20% chance to use ONE (!) mindspike is nice - but i think it would screw up everything in your "rotation" |
| 06:30.12 | znf | "press flashy buttons" |
| 06:30.19 | znf | so, what's the lvl90 talent, then? |
| 06:30.26 | znf | I'm assuming it's not the one on the website |
| 06:30.48 | znf | ah |
| 06:30.50 | znf | "coming soon" |
| 06:30.51 | znf | ok |
| 06:31.06 | znf | http://mop.wowhead.com/mists-of-pandaria-talent-calculator#p |
| 06:31.17 | znf | I was looking at the official one, which is really really really outdated |
| 06:31.26 | znf | "Dominate Mind"?! |
| 06:31.47 | sbu | mind control :p |
| 06:31.56 | znf | But I see there's a base spell called "Mind Control", too |
| 06:32.14 | sbu | its not final.. :) |
| 06:32.24 | znf | oh, we have no more ball?! |
| 06:32.25 | sbu | as i said, i couldnt even build up evengelism stacks |
| 06:32.30 | sbu | or i dont know how to do that :p |
| 06:32.49 | sbu | no more ball? |
| 06:33.02 | znf | lvl45 middle talent was something called "holy star" |
| 06:33.13 | znf | "Divine Star" |
| 06:33.36 | znf | oh wait, it's been moved to lvl90 |
| 06:34.15 | sbu | err wait |
| 06:34.52 | sbu | why should i take vow of unity when i can aactually take something that deals damage? :p |
| 06:35.18 | znf | *shrug* |
| 06:35.32 | znf | the most important talent seems to be the one at lvl75 |
| 06:35.43 | znf | power infusion goes right out the window |
| 06:35.51 | znf | so there's twist of fate or divine insight |
| 06:36.02 | sbu | yup, depending on the fight |
| 06:36.09 | sbu | lots of adds = twist of fate |
| 06:36.16 | sbu | everything else = divine insight |
| 06:36.22 | znf | why so? |
| 06:36.38 | znf | 15% is not a big deal to targets below 20% :-/ |
| 06:37.32 | sbu | the other one again screws with your "rotation" somehow :o |
| 06:37.45 | sbu | because 40% just feels like "EVERY CAST" |
| 06:38.05 | sbu | (well, maybe its bugged and the proc chance was too high :p) |
| 06:38.09 | znf | let's see, so far looks like I'm gonna pick: Void Tendrils, Phantasm, Archangel, Angelic Bulwark, ??!!??, and well...? |
| 06:38.32 | znf | "Vow of unity cannot be cast on tank specialized players" |
| 06:38.35 | znf | lol, useless talent, then |
| 06:38.54 | znf | well, useful for pvp, I guess |
| 06:38.57 | sbu | err of course "divine star" |
| 06:39.21 | sbu | "doing damage to all...." :p |
| 06:39.30 | znf | we'll need to see what the "coming soon" talent is :P |
| 06:39.50 | znf | if it does holy damage unaffected by the shadow modifiers, then it's pretty much a useless "fire orb" variant |
| 06:40.42 | znf | "When Symbiosis is cast on you by a druid, this button will be replaced by the new ability you have temporarly learned." |
| 06:40.50 | znf | So I have to put that on my action bar? fail |
| 06:40.59 | sbu | huh? |
| 06:41.03 | sbu | which button |
| 06:41.31 | znf | apparently all classes/spec learn this base line ability, "Symbiosis" |
| 06:42.03 | sbu | oh :p |
| 06:42.15 | znf | which is used by the druid talent |
| 06:42.59 | znf | hmmm, so SWP generates orbs, too |
| 06:43.00 | znf | wtf |
| 06:43.15 | znf | oh, hello Inner Fire... 10% spell power :o |
| 06:43.20 | znf | Wonder if it stacks with raid buffs |
| 06:43.33 | sbu | i think so |
| 06:43.54 | sbu | just like mage armors stack with raid buffs |
| 06:44.00 | znf | oh, and we got Renew back |
| 06:44.26 | znf | and Binding Heal |
| 06:44.55 | znf | the fuck, Dispersion is baseline @ 60 |
| 06:44.56 | znf | o.O |
| 06:45.48 | znf | Hmmm, did you notice the mastery proc, sbu? |
| 06:46.16 | sbu | well so vampiric dominace is the "old" vampiric embrace and vampiric embrace is like passive divine hymn while dpsing :D |
| 06:46.41 | znf | Vampiric Dominance? |
| 06:46.44 | znf | where? |
| 06:46.58 | quiescens | o.o |
| 06:47.00 | sbu | znf: no idea, its on mmo-champion |
| 06:47.15 | znf | oh god... the changes |
| 06:47.16 | znf | they hurt |
| 06:47.29 | sbu | nothing is final at all, so... *shrug* |
| 06:47.35 | znf | ah, Dominance was supposed to be the lvl90 talent |
| 06:47.53 | sbu | would make sense, "healing talents" |
| 06:48.02 | znf | so, basically they removed DP, gave the healing part to VT |
| 06:48.17 | znf | they changed vampiric touch to be a useless cooldown |
| 06:48.32 | znf | and they added dominance for "old times sake" |
| 06:48.37 | sbu | useless? |
| 06:48.57 | znf | erm, Vampiric Embrace, sorry |
| 06:49.07 | sbu | 20k hps for ~15s is pretty nice :D |
| 06:49.15 | sbu | oh, only direct damage.. meh |
| 06:49.21 | znf | yeah, so, like I said, useless :P |
| 06:49.32 | znf | I'm not gonna waste a GCD for that :P |
| 06:49.45 | sbu | oh, nah, its "single target" damage |
| 06:49.47 | sbu | so should affect dots |
| 06:50.03 | znf | I'm pretty sure I'll roll with Vampiric Dominance |
| 06:50.19 | sbu | so its basically 50% of your dps as healing for 15s - MUCH better than using divine hymn at the moment as "emergency heal" |
| 06:50.28 | sbu | you can still do dps while healing the raid |
| 06:50.38 | znf | we'll see :-? |
| 06:50.44 | znf | I'm more pissed that we lost Holy Nova, though |
| 06:50.51 | znf | that was the best spell for farming low level mobs :( |
| 06:51.07 | quiescens | pats znf |
| 06:51.10 | quiescens | there there |
| 06:51.19 | znf | (unless they allow me to cast mind sear on myself!) |
| 06:51.33 | sbu | casts mind sear on quiescens |
| 06:51.36 | quiescens | dies. |
| 06:51.39 | sbu | err no |
| 06:51.43 | sbu | you wont take any damage! |
| 06:51.48 | sbu | lies! |
| 06:52.36 | znf | I can't make my mind about this, though: http://www.wowdb.com/spells/112833-spectral-guise#15354-15464 |
| 06:52.57 | sbu | pvp |
| 06:53.13 | znf | "lasts 6 seconds or until your true form is hit by 3 direct attacks" |
| 06:53.16 | znf | wtf does that mean? |
| 06:53.32 | sbu | well its like invisibility |
| 06:53.33 | haste | sounds like its a way to move away |
| 06:53.44 | sbu | except you dont drop out of combat and some "mirror" will stay at your position |
| 06:53.53 | znf | is aoe considered direct attack? |
| 06:53.54 | sbu | which will take up to 3 hits |
| 06:54.03 | sbu | wonder if you are damaged when it gets hit :p |
| 06:54.11 | znf | aaaaaaaa |
| 06:54.12 | haste | depends on the aoe znf |
| 06:54.19 | znf | "leaving your true from behind" |
| 06:54.21 | znf | ok, that makes sense now |
| 06:54.43 | quiescens | that wording seems silly |
| 06:54.56 | znf | yeah :-/ |
| 06:55.01 | znf | GIVE ME THE BETA ALREADY FFS |
| 06:55.15 | quiescens | "true form" |
| 06:55.20 | quiescens | is a bit iffy |
| 06:55.20 | znf | sbu, the new content (85-90) is not available yet, right? |
| 06:55.23 | znf | only some dungeons? |
| 06:55.23 | sbu | right |
| 06:55.28 | quiescens | almost makes it sound like it puts you back there when it wears off |
| 06:55.31 | sbu | low level dungeons actually |
| 06:55.43 | haste | quiescens: that wouldn't make much sense |
| 06:55.46 | znf | I saw someone going trough one of the new dungeons |
| 06:55.49 | quiescens | why not just say that it leaves your shadow behind and makes you invisible |
| 06:55.50 | quiescens | or something |
| 06:56.10 | quiescens | it wouldn't make sense as a spell, but that is what the description makes it sound like |
| 06:56.23 | quiescens | if its your true form, then that would be where you really are |
| 06:57.27 | znf | sbu, how many orbs can you have max? |
| 06:57.27 | znf | 3? |
| 06:57.46 | quiescens | anymoo |
| 06:57.47 | quiescens | shrugs |
| 06:57.55 | quiescens | i just think the wording is bad~ |
| 06:58.03 | quiescens | i don't even know what these orbs you are talking about are |
| 06:58.27 | quiescens | in my day, shadow priests had like 3 things to cast |
| 06:58.40 | znf | Wonder if it will be worth using the Orbs for 1 or 2 apparitions, or just deplete the bar completely with 3 orbs |
| 06:59.03 | znf | priority so far sounds like |
| 06:59.27 | znf | Shadowy Apparitions > Mind Blast > Vampiric Touch > Shadow Word: Pain > Mind Flay |
| 06:59.40 | sbu | don't forget sw:d procs ;) |
| 06:59.42 | dieck | you have to cast Shadowy Apparitions now? |
| 06:59.50 | sbu | yep |
| 06:59.50 | znf | dieck, apparently :-/ |
| 06:59.56 | dieck | not enough micro management already? puh |
| 06:59.57 | znf | it's the only use (in pve) for the orbs |
| 07:00.08 | dieck | maybe I'll better get going with my druid |
| 07:00.40 | znf | sbu, well, if you take Divine Insight, yeah |
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| 07:01.29 | znf | if you take From Darkness Comes Light _and_ Divine Insight, you just increased your spell rotation by 2 spells :D |
| 07:04.28 | sbu | FDCL seems to be to hard to manage :o |
| 07:05.05 | znf | Judging by the wording, Shadow Word: Pain only generates orb when cast, right? |
| 07:05.15 | sbu | have to test |
| 07:05.20 | sbu | but i'm at work at the moment |
| 07:05.32 | znf | damn you! |
| 07:05.32 | sbu | will do some tests this evening |
| 07:05.35 | znf | y u get beta? : |
| 07:05.36 | znf | :P |
| 07:05.39 | znf | and you're at work! |
| 07:05.43 | znf | Give beta to a nolifer like me! |
| 07:05.44 | sbu | because i'm awesome! |
| 07:05.59 | dieck | did you already play spriest in Beta? It sounds much more work than it already is now? Or is that evened out by other factors? |
| 07:06.14 | znf | sbu is in the beta, I'm not :-( |
| 07:06.16 | sbu | dieck: 08:21 < sbu> its like "press everything that flashes" at the moment |
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| 07:06.22 | sbu | thats my first impression ;) |
| 07:06.30 | dieck | sbu: yes, but with skill, or faceroll? :) |
| 07:06.52 | sbu | skill :( you have to keep dots up (no auto refreshing sw:p, short duration vt) |
| 07:07.00 | znf | how short? o.o |
| 07:07.00 | sbu | well not ":(" |
| 07:07.19 | sbu | oh, its still 15s, nevermind |
| 07:07.47 | znf | ah, thank god |
| 07:08.03 | znf | well, I don't have issues managing dots |
| 07:08.11 | znf | especially that DP is gone now |
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| 07:08.25 | dieck | ah, ok, one less to manage |
| 07:08.38 | znf | the Mastery seems to be passive damage now? |
| 07:08.43 | znf | no more "empowered shadow"? |
| 07:08.51 | dieck | hm, so no more spamming dp while running with sw:d on cd? |
| 07:08.52 | sbu | znf: +SA, +SW:D, +MB on cooldown, .. |
| 07:09.16 | sbu | oh, right, no more spamming dp |
| 07:09.48 | znf | Ow, right |
| 07:09.51 | znf | I liked that :( |
| 07:09.52 | sbu | so its void shift znf - can't move out of the fire, just swap health with your tank :p |
| 07:10.03 | znf | let the tank be burned? :D |
| 07:10.22 | sbu | oh, even better, vow of unity |
| 07:10.32 | sbu | damage redirect |
| 07:10.39 | znf | that doesn't work with tanks! |
| 07:11.00 | sbu | i don#t care :p |
| 07:11.01 | znf | I can't seem to find Dark Evangelism at all in the spells |
| 07:11.02 | sbu | use it on healers then ;) |
| 07:11.13 | znf | only it's holy version |
| 07:11.17 | sbu | yup |
| 07:11.23 | sbu | thats why i was unable to stack eveangelism |
| 07:11.26 | sbu | no idea how thats going to work |
| 07:11.53 | znf | did you notice empowered shadow? |
| 07:11.55 | znf | is it gone or...? |
| 07:12.15 | sbu | didn't notice, but i hate the blizz ui :( |
| 07:12.23 | sbu | i think i didn't notice lots of things ;) |
| 07:13.59 | sbu | no raid today, so i can test everything :p just remember to ask me then ;) |
| 07:14.06 | znf | I have raid today! :( |
| 07:14.08 | sbu | sadly no addons allowed at the moment |
| 07:14.16 | znf | yeah, that's sad :( |
| 07:14.19 | znf | can't track things properly |
| 07:14.19 | sbu | so i can't compare damage |
| 07:14.28 | sbu | yep |
| 07:14.29 | znf | combat log parsing? : |
| 07:14.31 | znf | :D |
| 07:14.35 | sbu | *sigh* |
| 07:14.39 | znf | wonder if WoL does betas? :P |
| 07:15.58 | dieck | hm, I head an "offline" log parser before... don't remember the name |
| 07:16.19 | dieck | but you could scroll through effects quite nice, analyzing what happend very good |
| 07:16.29 | sbu | stasiscl |
| 07:16.31 | sbu | ? |
| 07:16.46 | dieck | hm, no, wasn't that |
| 07:17.09 | znf | sbu, archangel seems to be just a DPS cooldown now |
| 07:17.12 | dieck | Cardio |
| 07:17.22 | sbu | znf: like it was before!? |
| 07:17.27 | znf | no, I mean |
| 07:17.31 | znf | it doesn't say anything about consuming stacks |
| 07:17.45 | dieck | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/wcardioraid/ |
| 07:17.46 | znf | so you don't have to build it up |
| 07:17.55 | sbu | okay, but i cant use it, its just inactive |
| 07:17.59 | znf | oh |
| 07:18.32 | znf | did you just try pressing it? :P |
| 07:18.36 | sbu | nope :p |
| 07:18.36 | znf | without expecting it to highlight? :D |
| 07:18.39 | znf | fail :D |
| 07:19.02 | sbu | well, highlight vs. normal vs. "greyed out" :) |
| 07:19.19 | sbu | but also some spells don't have a cooldown at the moment, e.g. void shift |
| 07:19.23 | sbu | you can spam it |
| 07:19.33 | sbu | so lots of "bugs" or "work in progress" there |
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| 07:22.59 | quiescens | welll |
| 07:23.09 | quiescens | no addons for a little bit does make sense |
| 07:23.30 | quiescens | presumably get at least *some* testing of the default ui |
| 07:23.31 | quiescens | nodnod |
| 07:23.46 | znf | I'm amazed how people can play with that horrible UI :-S |
| 07:24.46 | sbu | i can't :( |
| 07:25.06 | sbu | i need proper target debuff display |
| 07:26.17 | znf | same |
| 07:27.55 | znf | and the most important - I need god damn timers |
| 07:28.20 | znf | need to know how many seconds I have left on the damn debuff : |
| 07:28.21 | znf | :P |
| 07:28.30 | znf | that decreasing pie over the dots doesn't tell me shit |
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| 07:30.44 | znf | sbu, hmmm, here's something to test |
| 07:31.06 | sbu | i will make a video then :p |
| 07:31.30 | znf | FDCL + Shadow Word Death |
| 07:31.32 | sbu | last time i logged in with 60k spellpower, 500k SW:D killed me |
| 07:31.34 | znf | Wonder if it resets |
| 07:31.50 | sbu | the 2p t13 didnt do anything |
| 07:31.55 | znf | lol |
| 07:32.03 | sbu | oh right, no more redoced damage on SW:D i think |
| 07:32.07 | znf | I wonder if FDCL enables double-tapping |
| 07:32.13 | quiescens | you have 60k spellpower? |
| 07:32.32 | znf | Intellect Scaling Gone Wrong, I guess :D |
| 07:32.48 | quiescens | i remember our shaowpriests |
| 07:32.49 | sbu | nah, happened once, was "okay" then |
| 07:32.52 | quiescens | killing themselves on |
| 07:32.56 | quiescens | um |
| 07:32.59 | sbu | madness? easy :p |
| 07:33.01 | quiescens | the end guy in karazhan |
| 07:33.10 | znf | we've killed ourselves planty of times @ Madness of Deathwing in LFR |
| 07:33.13 | pompy | prince |
| 07:33.13 | quiescens | and also on |
| 07:33.27 | znf | double-tap shadow word: death --> crits for 350k... twice |
| 07:33.29 | quiescens | the guy with the charges in |
| 07:33.30 | quiescens | um |
| 07:33.30 | znf | imagine the damage you take back |
| 07:33.34 | quiescens | the flying undead city thing |
| 07:33.40 | znf | quiescens, naxxramas? |
| 07:33.47 | quiescens | that's the one |
| 07:34.03 | sbu | oh btw, i love LFRing madnees :D |
| 07:34.25 | sbu | low raid dps, low dps on spawning blood etc.. it's fun ;) |
| 07:34.32 | quiescens | the one with prince was just because of the 1hp thingy |
| 07:35.32 | quiescens | oh the frogger slimes were funny in naxxramas too |
| 07:35.56 | znf | oh, remember Chimaeron? :D |
| 07:36.08 | quiescens | is that to me? |
| 07:36.10 | znf | no, sbu |
| 07:36.18 | sbu | yes :( |
| 07:36.22 | sbu | oh running to boss |
| 07:36.27 | sbu | oh, lets hit sw:d while running |
| 07:36.28 | sbu | oh... |
| 07:36.33 | znf | mhm :P |
| 07:36.40 | znf | died twice |
| 07:36.43 | znf | then that spell was off-limits :D |
| 07:36.53 | quiescens | what is a chimaeron |
| 07:37.04 | sbu | quiescens: Y U NO PLAY WOW!?!?!?! |
| 07:37.13 | znf | quiescens, it's a boss where all the raid is brought down to 10k HP |
| 07:37.40 | quiescens | psh |
| 07:37.57 | znf | now, considering the average SWD hits for 50-60k when the boss is below 25% and you get that damage back if he doesn't die... |
| 07:38.00 | quiescens | we didn't have 10k hp anyway |
| 07:38.04 | sbu | i liked the first version of our sw:d glyph |
| 07:38.05 | sbu | it was like |
| 07:38.12 | znf | not sure which that is |
| 07:38.22 | sbu | "boss is <30% hp, healers, just heal me... dont even thing about stopping!" |
| 07:38.28 | sbu | infinite sw:d spam :D |
| 07:38.29 | sbu | no cooldown |
| 07:38.32 | znf | ah, lol |
| 07:38.33 | znf | wtf :D |
| 07:38.43 | znf | instant cast spell heh |
| 07:38.48 | znf | that hits shitloads |
| 07:39.40 | quiescens | reported |
| 07:40.12 | sbu | quiescens: was patched after first or second week :( |
| 07:40.34 | quiescens | ): |
| 07:40.57 | quiescens | abusing bugs is wrong~ |
| 07:41.01 | sbu | was no bug |
| 07:41.39 | sbu | but the didnt expect players to spam that thing (well.. it was kinda obvious, but.. *shrug*) because it has a self-damaging component |
| 07:43.56 | znf | I don't think it's viable to choose FDCl and Divine Insight |
| 07:44.04 | znf | I believe it's quite impossible to play with both |
| 07:44.16 | quiescens | maybe you're just that good |
| 07:44.48 | znf | I mean in the same time! >_< |
| 07:45.13 | sbu | znf: why should FDCL reset sw:d? |
| 07:45.37 | znf | the other one :P |
| 07:45.44 | znf | Divine Insight |
| 07:45.51 | sbu | i think it does, but will test :) |
| 07:46.10 | znf | well, actually, it doesn't really matter if it resets it or not, though |
| 07:46.32 | znf | because it says "40% chance your NEXT shadow word: death" |
| 07:46.42 | znf | so won't double tap it anyway |
| 07:47.34 | znf | FDCL seems more PvP-oriented though |
| 07:47.42 | znf | instant mind spike |
| 07:47.52 | sbu | too dangerous in pve |
| 07:48.06 | znf | well, it will probably LIGHT UP |
| 07:48.06 | znf | :D |
| 07:48.33 | sbu | right, but hard pressing instant spells without cooldowns sometimes causes them to be cast again :p |
| 07:48.38 | sbu | which will clear your dots then ;) |
| 07:48.47 | znf | indeed |
| 07:49.21 | znf | Altough, FDCL could be good at fights with a lot of movement |
| 07:49.38 | znf | run around while you have vampiric touch, if it procs, you get free damage |
| 07:50.58 | znf | I predict a lot of talent swapping on fights :P |
| 07:51.24 | quiescens | cheatings |
| 07:53.07 | znf | uhm |
| 07:53.14 | znf | Shadowy Apparition has a range : |
| 07:53.15 | znf | oh right |
| 07:54.12 | dieck | sadly, I still haven't got my annual pass beta invite... most others in my guild have. I hope I didn't delete the mail by accident as spam :) |
| 07:54.32 | znf | nobody in my guild got the beta invite |
| 07:54.35 | quiescens | maybe someone stealed it |
| 07:54.39 | znf | dieck, you don't need the mail |
| 07:54.41 | znf | just check your account |
| 07:54.46 | znf | if the beta is there, you have it, else it's not |
| 07:54.51 | dieck | oh, ok |
| 07:55.19 | dieck | ah, darn, my authenticator is at home :) |
| 07:55.47 | znf | iPhone / iOS? :P |
| 07:56.05 | dieck | Yes, I have one, but I'm using the "hardware" authenticator |
| 07:56.18 | sbu | iO-what? :p |
| 07:56.27 | dieck | and as far as I know, you can't have 2 attached? |
| 07:56.33 | sbu | correct |
| 07:56.52 | sbu | i have android + windows clone inside a truecrypt container - backup, just in case... |
| 07:57.16 | znf | erm |
| 07:57.19 | znf | I wanted to say |
| 07:57.19 | quiescens | i have a password |
| 07:57.21 | znf | iPhone / Android |
| 07:57.33 | znf | sbu, using WinAuth? |
| 07:58.28 | dieck | a friend of mine broke his hardware authenticator. took a 3 minute call to blizzard and reading one of his wow keys (not even the base game) to have it removed |
| 07:59.44 | znf | I prefer to use my phone |
| 07:59.45 | sbu | znf: yep |
| 07:59.47 | znf | + WinAuth |
| 07:59.50 | znf | WinAuth is awesome :P |
| 08:00.18 | znf | http://code.google.com/p/winauth/ ^ |
| 08:00.33 | znf | get backu code == use it everywhere :P |
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| 11:47.55 | Mikk | WinAuth seems like a horrible horrible horrible idea |
| 11:48.12 | Mikk | if it ever gets semipopular, WoW keyloggers will by default go copy its keyfile |
| 11:48.25 | Mikk | and then your authenticator gets you 0% additional protection |
| 11:49.00 | Elkano | wait, what? |
| 11:49.08 | Mikk | http://code.google.com/p/winauth/ |
| 11:49.16 | sbu | Mikk: thats not winauth fail then |
| 11:49.36 | Elkano | a windows version of the smartphone token app? |
| 11:49.42 | Mikk | yes |
| 11:49.55 | Mikk | sbu: If you aren't worried about keyloggers you don't need an authenticator |
| 11:49.58 | sbu | 1. i save my winauth+keyfile in my truecrypt container 2. there is an option to password-protect (encrypt) your keyfile |
| 11:50.35 | Mikk | and the keylogger wouldn't pick up that password? |
| 11:50.57 | sbu | point taken. |
| 11:51.29 | sbu | still - its an emergency procedure for me. in case i lose my phone / crash the software somehow |
| 11:51.47 | Mikk | nod. if you're not opening your truecrypt container, a trojan can't get it |
| 11:52.22 | Mikk | if i had a smartphone authenticator i would copy this to my laptop (which i dont play wow on) |
| 11:52.33 | Mikk | unfortunately i use the java authenticator |
| 11:52.36 | Mikk | which they no longer support |
| 11:52.36 | Mikk | >.< |
| 11:52.43 | Mikk | bastards |
| 11:52.54 | quiescens | password imo |
| 11:53.28 | sbu | Mikk: i can copy my passwo[Drd from textfiles, so keylogger wont get it!!!1 |
| 11:53.39 | quiescens | zomg |
| 11:53.52 | sbu | or excels, even more secure then! |
| 11:54.33 | Mikk | yeah because there aren't any keyloggers that monitor the contents of the clipboard... there are only stupid hax0rs, ever :P |
| 11:54.40 | sbu | see! |
| 11:54.47 | sbu | no problem then! |
| 11:54.52 | quiescens | people that know enough to be dangerous but not enough to actually be safe |
| 11:55.12 | sbu | excels quiescens |
| 11:55.17 | quiescens | dies. |
| 11:55.22 | mitch0 | moo |
| 11:57.04 | sbu | Mikk: i agree, it's not a perfect solution - but it can save you some trouble (well, customer support/contact forms) |
| 12:02.24 | quiescens | its true |
| 12:02.39 | quiescens | dealing with customer support thingies is too much headache |
| 12:46.33 | quiescens | not a frequently used quit message |
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| 13:09.14 | Repo | bad-boy: 03funkydude * r855 BadBoy.lua: |
| 13:09.15 | Repo | This really should fix silent functionality not working for some folks |
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| 13:50.17 | quiescens | ): |
| 13:51.37 | Repo | bad-boy: 03funkydude * r856 BadBoy.lua: tweak previous |
| 13:52.15 | groktar | boils himself |
| 13:52.35 | quiescens | ): |
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| 13:54.31 | groktar | nulls quiescens |
| 13:54.39 | quiescens | dies. |
| 13:55.30 | groktar | came to work at 6 today so i could get off at 3 |
| 13:55.32 | groktar | blerg |
| 13:55.35 | groktar | wants to go back to bed |
| 13:55.43 | groktar | blames quiescens |
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| 14:03.52 | quiescens | ): |
| 14:03.54 | quiescens | goto sleep |
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| 14:17.23 | nevcairiel | sbu: doesnt the mobile authenticator offer some fallback code with which you can recover from losing the authenticator app somehow? |
| 14:18.10 | nevcairiel | it gave me some restore code, at least |
| 14:20.39 | Repo | breuesk (experimental): 03breue * r67 / (2 files in 1 directory): Getting the rest of the UI elements to respond intuitively |
| 14:20.39 | Repo | Convenience command to build and populate a brand new list |
| 14:20.51 | znf | erm, where's Mikk? |
| 14:21.00 | znf | anyway, what if it gets the file used by WinAuth? |
| 14:21.08 | znf | the file is encrypted with windows' ESF thingie |
| 14:21.17 | znf | EFS |
| 14:21.34 | nevcairiel | if its a keylogger, its running as your user and windows decrypts it for you. :) |
| 14:22.40 | znf | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/120650/winauth.png |
| 14:23.04 | nevcairiel | and a keylogger can log passwords |
| 14:23.23 | nevcairiel | having that thing on a system where the keylogger would also install itself is just bad |
| 14:23.36 | quiescens | shrugs |
| 14:23.44 | znf | if you have a keylogger that will/can target that file, I'm gonna go ahead and say that you have bigger problems than your WoW Account :P |
| 14:23.57 | quiescens | there are more important things to be worried about than a game if your system is compromised imo |
| 14:24.09 | nevcairiel | why do you think people use authenticators? because of keyloggers. |
| 14:24.18 | znf | not really |
| 14:24.20 | znf | I got it for the pet :> |
| 14:24.46 | znf | I didn't even use it before they added that whole "you don't have to enter your key every fuckin' time" |
| 14:25.00 | nevcairiel | i configured it to require the key every time |
| 14:25.10 | znf | also, I rather use it for when I have to log on someone else's computer |
| 14:25.39 | znf | besides, I have a screenshot of my restore codes in my dropbox :P |
| 14:28.25 | znf | I wouldn't trust my banking account with a local running software |
| 14:28.31 | znf | but it's just a game |
| 14:30.55 | Stanzilla | hey my account is worth a few hundred bucks |
| 14:31.10 | znf | so is mine, but they have backups! :P |
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| 15:58.38 | quiescens | moo |
| 15:59.12 | Torhal|work | serves quiescens on rye bread to Megalon. |
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| 16:58.58 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r9059 DragonSoul/Yorsahj.lua: |
| 16:58.59 | Repo | Yorsahj: add a warning for corruption and a bar for the aoe acid pulse. |
| 16:59.51 | znf | beats Fisker with a stick |
| 17:01.48 | Repo | bad-boy: 03funkydude * r857 BadBoy.toc: bump toc version to v8 in prep for release |
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| 18:23.04 | Repo | bad-boy: 03funkydude * r858 BadBoy.lua: French anti-goldspam update |
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| 19:16.57 | Repo | sexymap: 03Torhal 07master * v1.2.5-1-gd9c1b1a SexyMap.toc: [+1 commit] Updated ToC interface version to 40300 |
| 19:17.02 | Repo | sexymap: 03Torhal 04v1.2.6 * 8af9c57 /: [new tag] Tagging new release. |
| 19:18.11 | Stanzilla | lolz Torhal |
| 19:18.13 | Stanzilla | you fool |
| 19:18.17 | Stanzilla | activated my trap card |
| 19:18.38 | Torhal|work | Stanzilla: ? |
| 19:19.14 | Torhal|work | bounces a Poké Ball off of Stanzilla's forehead. |
| 19:19.22 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 19:19.53 | Torhal|work | definitely.mkv |
| 19:27.01 | pompy | torhal.xxx |
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| 20:26.57 | groktar | http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5w47UZN23pc/T2sNDN0-FUI/AAAAAAAAGD0/nH94M_IFpxw/s1600/you_down_wit_OPC-yeah_you_know_me.png |
| 20:27.00 | groktar | this is so true |
| 20:27.10 | groktar | only usually that's me reading code i wrote last week |
| 20:27.50 | Mikk | the art of commenting |
| 20:27.53 | Mikk | it takes much time to learn |
| 20:28.06 | Mikk | imagine you're explaining why the function exists to a rubber ducky sitting next to your monitor |
| 20:28.21 | Mikk | don't explain the name. don't explain what it does in detail. explain WHY it does it and WHEN. |
| 20:28.53 | Mikk | pointing out the main callers can also be very helpful (gives you a notion of WHEN) |
| 20:34.26 | Megalon | hooray 4 mouse trap in the last panel |
| 20:39.22 | Torhal|work | eviscerates Megalon with a tray of Lebkuchen. |
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| 20:51.33 | groktar | god i hate editing this page |
| 20:51.48 | groktar | blames Mikk |
| 20:53.02 | Humbedooh | Torhal|work, gief! |
| 20:53.33 | pompy | lol this microsoft xbox rep wont write off this transaction pending until i tell him im going to renew my account. |
| 20:53.54 | pompy | but from what i remember u cant buy from over the phone. |
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| 21:49.02 | Repo | bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v8.000 * r859 : (4 lines trimmed from commit message) |
| 21:49.02 | Repo | Tagging as v8.000 |
| 21:49.03 | Repo | -Possibly fixed an issue for some users where silent mode didn't work. |
| 21:49.03 | Repo | -Re-code the raid icon handling and symbol handling to strengthen BadBoy against spam that uses raid icon & symbol separation. |
| 21:49.04 | Repo | -Print a chat message if an addon is breaking critical chat data that BadBoy needs, thus breaking BadBoy, and showing an error. |
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