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08:53.36znfIs there no way to center text in a LDB tooltip?
08:59.47znfIs SetCell() from libqtip? :-/
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10:51.35MikkYes
10:51.57MikkAnd if by "LDB tooltip" you mean gametooltip then no, gametooltip knows left & right.
10:54.02znfMikk, Guess I was reffering to GameTooltip
10:54.40znfMikk, what happens if 2 addons use the same table name?
10:55.10quiescensthe world comes tumbling down
10:55.11znfalso, if they bind the same slash command
10:55.17znfwhich one will get priority?
10:55.31mckenziemcthe one that kills quiescens first
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11:12.52znfIs there a function to ProperCase a string?
11:20.05hastewithout knowing what proper casing is, no
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11:42.20znfharl, This Is Proper Casing
11:42.32znfI mean haste
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11:52.22hasteyou could implement it yourself with gsub, if you don't need fancy unicode support
11:52.41hasteyou could still implement it yourself if you do need fancy unicode support ofc, but it would require a lot more effort
11:53.13znfUh.
11:53.17znfSo this:
11:53.18znfreturn string.upper (string.sub(x, 1, 1)) .. string.lower (string.sub(x, 2))
11:53.24znfis not utf-8 compliant? :-/
11:53.40znfie: if people have weird-ass char names, it will fail?
11:54.12znfDamn it!
11:55.17hastestring.{upper,lower} in WoW does have some unicode support afaik, but not much
11:55.35hastenot sure what happens if you do: /run print(string.upper('å')) for example
11:55.44hasteand you wouldn't match it correctly by doing string.sub()
11:55.49znfhaste, just tested it... it failed :-(
11:56.06hasteyes, because å is two bytes, not one, which is what you are pulling out with that code above
11:57.39Stanzillaznf: www.wowace.com/addons/utf8/
11:59.26znfso I have to include that huge-ass code in my addon? :-(
12:00.17hastewelcome to unicode
12:01.44znfhaste, so, my code will fail only if I have the 1st char with.. an accent or whatever, right?
12:02.50znfwierd... /print string.upper("âasta
12:02.52znfdamn it
12:02.55znfwierd... /print string.upper("âasta") fails
12:03.13znfbah, now I'm confusing myself
12:03.59znfSo, what I meant is... /print string.upper("Asăâ") fails on the weird chars. /run print(string.upper("Asăâ")) works
12:05.11hasteyour code failed on unicode because you only fetched a part of the character code (first byte), and because string.upper() most likely doesn't support unicode characters
12:05.25hasteI know string.upper() supports slightly more than stock lua, but not by much
12:05.29haste(in WoW)
12:06.27znfMeh, that will have to do. Whoever's toon name starts with an accented char deserves it >_<
12:06.59Stanzillawhat are you coding btw?
12:07.02hastethen what about people who use characters form their own language like: æøå :D ?
12:07.38znfhaste, they still deserve it :P
12:07.51hastesuch a half-assed job ;P
12:08.03znfI hate it when someone has the 1st or 2nd char of their toon's name "accented".
12:08.10znfIt's impossible to tab-complete it >_<
12:08.26znfStanzilla, my fork of vhaarr's BananaDKP
12:09.18znfhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/plantaindkp/
12:11.01hastemake an interface for it instead of slashcommand -- completely avoid the entire issue
12:11.13znfhaste, that's far away on the to-do list :P
12:11.32quiescensexcuses
12:11.38znfI had a go at an UI for it... but I sucked at it badly
12:12.22hastenothing a couple of iterations won't solve
12:13.25znfI suck at UIs more than I suck at coding :P
12:14.00quiescensbribe haste to do it
12:14.01hastethen start coding so you can stop sucking
12:16.03znfnah, I am sometimes pretty convincing to have someone spoon-feed me some lines of code, but I haven't yet managed to make someone code a full-featured UI for me :D
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12:25.35harlstares at znf.
12:25.45quiescensrun!
12:25.46znfstares back at harl
12:25.53znfshoots quiescens
12:25.57quiescensdies.
12:26.42harlresurrects quiescens.
12:27.14harlstaring contest, is it?
12:27.55hasteI think znf already lost
12:28.10znfsorry, got distracted and killed quiescens
12:28.41harlshoot and stare at the same time
12:42.45Mikkargh. argh. argh.
12:42.56Mikki have monty python's holy grail fanfare theme in head
12:43.20Mikktan-taaaah   ta-taaah  ta-ta-ta-ta-taaaaahhh
12:43.31Mikktan-taaaah   ta-taaah  ta-ta-ta-ta-taaaaahhh
12:44.47Stanzillatotally unrelated but equally awesome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwIxWt0KCQY
12:47.01znfWhy can't documentation write itself? :-(
12:48.43Megalonznf: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dn5DAs4JWNc/TtdMJsnNlII/AAAAAAAAAmI/z0UgRZjrc6o/s400/Aliens%2Bmeme.jpg
12:48.57znf>_<
12:49.39bluspacecow@znf you can
12:49.46znf:o
12:49.47znfhow?
12:49.57bluspacecowgetting _readable_ and _understandable_ documentation is the problem
12:50.11znf^
12:50.28bluspacecowwrite an ai that automatically writes it
12:50.50Mikkyeah there's lots of automated systems that fills in details about code documentation
12:50.53Mikkthat does exactly fuckall
12:50.59quiescensjust write random jibberish
12:51.07quiescensnoone will notice until its too late
12:51.07Mikkbecause all those systems can do is tell you what the code already says
12:51.12Mikkit doesn't explain why when and how
12:52.05bluspacecowkk
12:52.09bluspacecowsleepy tiems
12:54.01znfI hate Yorshaj with a passion :(
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12:56.39znfIs there a way to track shadowfiend duration with Weak Auras / PowerAuras?
12:57.50znf(not cooldown)
12:58.16znfalso, how about internal cooldowns of trinkets that proc damage spells (darkmoon, raggy trinket, cunning of the cruel / vial of the shadows)
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13:06.49Stanzillaznf: yeah easy, show icon when it proccs, hide on timed counter
13:08.24znfwhen it procs?
13:08.44Stanzillayes
13:08.52Stanzillathat's for trinkets
13:09.00Stanzillashadowfiend is "when it spawns"
13:09.09znfwell, there's no aura my shadowfiend... so what event should I use in WeakAuras?
13:09.25znftried Spell -> Cast Success, but that didn't really work out :P
13:09.37Stanzillaspell summon?
13:09.55znfmkay
13:10.06znfwaits 2 minutes
13:10.15Stanzillamindflay something and wait less!
13:10.32znfI'm in ToT farming charms.. >_<
13:10.47Stanzillawhy would you farm it there?
13:11.08Stanzillaoh, throne of the tides, nvm
13:11.10znf2500 kills / hour
13:11.17Stanzillayes
13:11.40znfHmmm
13:11.41znfwell...
13:11.44Stanzillasomehow my mind translated ToT to "trial of the" something
13:11.46znfit dissapeared instantly, like
13:11.47znf:D
13:11.59znfthe graphic was up for 1 second
13:12.13Stanzillayeah you forgot to set the timed hiding then?
13:12.16Stanzillaset it to 15s
13:12.20znfI did set it to 15s
13:12.57quiescenslies
13:13.07znfah, wait
13:13.12znfunchecks "combat"
13:13.16Stanzilla:p
13:23.04Megalonunchecks "znf"
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14:35.36znflocal string.proper = function (x)
14:35.36znf<PROTECTED>
14:35.36znfend
14:35.40znf^ why is that throwing an error?
14:35.45znf138: unexpected symbol near "."
14:46.28Humbedooh> print (string.upper (string.sub(x, 1, 1)) .. string.lower (string.sub(x, 2)))
14:46.40Humbedooherr, nvm that, but you should add some parens to make it work :)
14:48.03Humbedoohso; return (string.upper (string.sub(x, 1, 1)) .. string.lower (string.sub(x, 2)))
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14:50.35znfHumbedooh, apparently if it's a global... it works.
14:51.14Humbedoohoh, that was the line that borked :)
14:51.33Humbedoohyes, local [global value].stuff is bad I bet
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15:16.12nevcairiela local with a dot in it is always bad
15:16.18nevcairielits not a valid variable name
15:17.16quiescensvarious interesting sorts of wrongness
15:17.51StanzillaZarnivoop: have you thought about adding the possiblity of hiding certain skada windows instead of having to delete them when I just don't need them all the time?
15:23.15ZarnivoopStanzilla: pretty sure it is possible to hide individual windows
15:24.10Stanzillaoh
15:24.15Stanzillaon the right click menu
15:25.09Stanzillanvm then, thanks :)
15:31.08quiescensmoo!
15:38.01Torhalznf: You can center text in a tooltip using LibQTip's colspans.
15:38.08Torhalgoes to work.
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15:39.38quiescenswoek woek
15:46.18znfmeh, i was afraid of that
15:46.45znfso Zarnivoop is the author of skada?
15:47.55Zarnivoopyes
15:49.42quiescensrun!
15:54.08znfZarnivoop, should integrate SkadaWindowButtons in the main skada tbh :P
15:54.22znfthat's all I had to say!
15:55.40StanzillaI think he already did that, znf
15:55.42Stanzillau fool!
15:55.53znfstill has WindowButtons addon enabled
15:56.29quiescensgasp
15:56.58znfwell, how could I have known that it's not needed anymore? :-(
15:58.19znfI only read changelogs when something breaks
15:59.22Stanzillayour own damn fault then :P
16:01.54quiescenscrucify him!
16:06.00znfnoooo!
16:06.06znfcrucifies quiescens first
16:08.03Torhal|worksacrifices znf to a goat.
16:08.11znf:-(
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19:21.29znfIs there any tool like SimCraft... but for healers? :-/
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22:45.30HjalteBadboy has started letting quite a few spammers through, is there a replacement?
22:56.07Funkeh`yeah there is, badboy alpha
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