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00:40.17Funkeh`I dislike how we still don't have repo back
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01:08.14quiescenspoor repo
01:08.16quiescens):
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01:23.23mckenziemcpoor quiescens ):
01:25.20quiescens):
01:33.44XuerianBah. Can't figure out if I want to try to make or use textures for holy power/shards or just use a / a few statusbars.. =|
01:35.05XuerianBars it is, don't feel like mucking with textures :3
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02:29.34scotepihow can I run a function every x seconds?
02:32.07XuerianOnUpdate passes elapsed. Add elapsed to a counter, when elapsed > 1 then execute and reset counter
02:32.15Xuerianer when counter > 1
02:36.52scotepiumm, looks like onupdate is ran like 100x a secont or more.. seams like a vary ineficent way of doing it..
02:37.53scotepii basicly want to force an update to my LDB every 30seconds or so
02:37.59scotepiuser set
02:40.19Torhalscotepi: OnUpdate runs every frame draw.
02:40.26TorhalSo if you have 100FPS...
02:40.31Torhal!api onupdate
02:40.32lua_botFound 2 possible results for 'onupdate': OnUpdateModel, OnUpdate
02:40.43Torhal!api OnUpdate()
02:40.44lua_botFound 2 possible results for 'OnUpdate()': OnUpdateModel, OnUpdate
02:40.48pompylol
02:40.51Torhal!api OnUpdate^
02:40.52lua_botCould not find a match for 'OnUpdate^'.
02:41.05XuerianPretty much, you either have to roll your own onupdate throttle or use a framework that provides scheduling
02:41.16Torhal!api OnUpdate$
02:41.16lua_botOnUpdate: Run each time the screen is drawn by the game engine  Available for Animation, AnimationGroup, Alpha, Path, Rotation, Scale, Translation, Frame, ArchaeologyDigSiteFrame, Button, ColorSelect, Cooldown, EditBox, GameTooltip, MessageFrame, Minimap, Model, MovieFrame, Que... (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/scripts/OnUpdate)
02:41.34Torhalscotepi: If you're already using Ace3, you can just use AceTimer
02:41.56scotepiyeah, im using ace3, id just like to avoid yet another acelib
02:42.18Torhalscotepi: Look how I handle the timer in Spamalyzer or TravelAgent, then.
02:42.29scotepithanks
02:42.31TorhalLook for 'elapsed'
02:43.39scotepiactauly, i can think of a few uses in my addon for a decent timer
02:43.44scotepiso ldb would be good
02:43.49scotepigah, acetimers
02:44.38Torhalupdater:SetScript("OnUpdate", function(self, elapsed) last_update = last_update + elapsed if last_update < 0.1 then return end end end
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02:44.53Torhalscotepi: ^ That checks if elapsed is a tenth of a second.
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02:45.41TorhalAfter it's >= 0.1 seconds, it would set last_update to 0
02:46.11Torhallast_update would be declared/defined as 0 outside of the function, of course.
02:46.36Xuerianscotepi: Really, just set up a basic frame with a onupdate. Use ^ to write your own scheduler, it can be pretty tiny, and if you bust out a profiler you'll find it's by far the least abusive
02:47.09TorhalAceTimer does exactly this, however, it's engineered so that it handles however many timers you throw at it in a single Frame object.
02:47.16TorhalWIth a single dispatcher function.
02:47.51TorhalJust depends on your needs.
02:48.45TorhalI used the method above in TravelAgent because I didn't need multiple timers, though really in theory using AceTimer would utilize the single library instance and technically be less resource intensive because of it.
02:49.28XuerianAll considered, so long as you don't do something stupid with either one, the difference is negligible and the net impact is even moreso
02:50.08TorhalYar.
03:07.20Dark_Elfcan do it another way too but im not telling it
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03:10.30Dark_Elflook at picofps can see another way
03:11.19XuerianDark_Elf: That's the same way Torhal and I suggested.
03:12.14Dark_Elfyeah i see that, wrong addon
03:12.31TorhalYou can also use animations.
03:12.33TorhalBut meh.
03:12.56XuerianWhat's the deal with the animations thing anyway? They more efficient for animations than doing it by hand, or is it just a short way of doing it?
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07:39.28hasteXuerian: animations are more more efficent as their transformation are implemented in the C side
07:39.45Xuerianhaste: Oh, well that's nifty.
07:40.39HumbedoohOh I do to be beside the C side...
07:40.49Humbedooh+love
07:40.55Humbedoohruined it :(
07:41.07quiescensgo to sleep
07:41.13hasteis horribly tired.
07:41.20Humbedoohstab stab stab staaaaaabs quiescens
07:41.24quiescensdies.
07:41.49Humbedoohwhy would I go to sleep at 8:41 in the morning :(
07:41.52Humbedoohyou go to sleep!
07:42.39quiescenssleep is good
07:42.40hasteI'd like to go to sleep now, at 8:42
07:44.12XuerianWhat, you're both eu?
07:44.24bluspacecowmaybe you've just come off an overnight shift ?
07:44.47hasteI'm very much EU
07:45.34quiescensyou are getting sleepy
07:46.26Humbedoohwe're all the eu!
07:46.39hastedoesn't live in the union.
07:46.42Humbedoohanonymeus!
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07:50.59Xuerianis realizing it's taking a lot more code to show all player powers (runes/shards/etc) as statusbars than he anticipated =|
07:53.00quiescensbribe someone else to do it
07:53.17XuerianI'm almost done anyway.
07:53.27quiescensnever too late to give up
07:53.31mckenziemcpoints at quiescens.
07:53.34quiescensdies.
07:55.30mckenziemcquiescens, your pathetic failure will serve as a warning to all... you are damned! Arise and carry out the master's will!
07:55.36mckenziemcresurrects quiescens.
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07:56.30mckenziemcs/, y/! Y/
07:57.23XuerianAhh, UT2k4 - Menu1
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08:06.59hastehttp://soundcloud.com/black-acre-records/loops-haunt-ark this.
08:08.20XuerianJust started the track, but seriously people. Stop making comments about the release at points in the song.. >:(
08:09.15XuerianAlso middle part is giving me a headache wtf
08:10.41Xuerianhaste: There's a good track buried in there somewhere, covered up by demon monkeys flowing incinerator poo at the sequencer's tracks
08:10.42hastehas a twisted taste in music.
08:10.58Xuerianincendiary*
08:11.19hasteit is a really good track :)
08:11.44XuerianIt's all opinion, but I'm sticking with "There's a good track in there somewhere"
08:12.32XuerianWhich I mean seriously, there's melodies and harmonics that sound pretty great. Inbetween earfuckings.
08:12.59hastereally enjoys music hovering between noise/musical.
08:13.20XuerianWell, then I can appreciate your appreciation of the track, even if I don't share it :p
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08:37.17quiescenso.o
08:43.22znf_playing that track above felt like having a horse raping my ears
08:44.07XuerianWith a bard singing a good song in the background
08:44.15XuerianWhich could hardly be heard through large, angry horsedick
08:44.17Zarnivoopznf_: how would you know how that feels?
08:44.29znf_I don't, I can only imagine
08:44.32XuerianZarnivoop: You're a stranger. I don't like you.
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13:47.56Stanzilla"The Curse Support website has recently encountered an error. We ask that if you're continuing to have problems unrelated to addon downloads, please re-report your the bug."
13:47.58Stanzillawat
13:48.36mitch0wat wat
13:49.41quiescensgasp
13:49.53quiescensyou broked it
13:50.23mitch0and broked the grammar checker, too
13:51.06Megalonone does not simply encounter a fisker and walk away with intact grammar
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14:05.43znf_what's the bigwigs timer broadcast?
14:06.27znf_I can't, for the love of $deity, remember them slash commands
14:09.34znf_I'm trying to use /bwpb here (from bigwigs pizzabar timer), but I can't seem to be able to broadcast a timer to DBM users :-/
14:09.38znf_looks at Funkeh`
14:09.50quiescenswhat if someone has more than one deity?
14:10.28Funkeh`Am I the author of that plugin? No.
14:11.02KalrothYou should be!
14:11.10hasteStanzilla: they set up us the bomb
14:11.22Stanzillahaste: indeed
14:12.13znf_Funkeh`, you're not! but how do I broadcast a timer from bigwigs normally? :P
14:13.04TorhalYou try really hard.
14:15.33quiescenscarefully
14:31.30Funkeh`znf_, /bwcb
14:32.30znf_meh :-(
14:32.39znf_so PizzaBars is not broadcasting it automatically *sigh*
14:40.21quiescensmm pizza
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14:40.43bluspacecowhmmm
14:41.20bluspacecoware updates to executable files hosted by curse … do they go past the check in team ?
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14:56.52Torhal|workbluspacecow: They're run by our AV scanner, and we require source code.
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14:58.20AckisTorhal|work: I gave him the policy on executables
14:58.28Ackishe linked a post in #curseforge
14:58.39bluspacecowhttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3759726690?page=3#40
14:58.39Torhal|workAh
14:58.48bluspacecowgrandma check pls
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14:59.49Torhal|workYou can capitalize North and AV, but not Curse.
14:59.51Torhal|workGG bluspacecow
14:59.54Torhal|workcackles.
15:00.09bluspacecow.....
15:00.18AckisSLAP TO THE FACE
15:01.03Torhal|workbluspacecow: Too many "." for a syntactically-correct ellipsis.
15:01.16Torhal|workYour continued failure makes Ackis sad.
15:01.24Ackisha take that DAD!
15:01.25bluspacecowLOL
15:01.25AckisGET OWNED
15:01.27Ackismuahhahahaha
15:06.39quiescenso.o
15:06.52bluspacecowXD
15:06.54bluspacecowLOL
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18:35.35scotepiAfter running AceConfig:RegisterOptionsTable(), I add some more options with modules, they work such a /sil group however typing /sil doesnt show it in the help
18:35.45scotepiany way to force it to rebuild that table?
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18:40.30scotepithis is how insert it into the table http://pastebin.com/7JtPeuwt
18:41.14scotepinm, its a lua issue when i 'copy' a table
18:42.47scotepibecause i mirror it to other aliases via SIL_Options.args.party = SIL_Options.args.group; and then set the aliase as cmeHidden = true; its not a true copy so it sets the parent as true also
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19:49.12Arrowmasterscotepi: you arent making a copy of the table but a reference to it, just copy paste it multiple times in your lua file so there is a different table for each one
19:49.58scotepiyeah, thats why i sis mirroring, not sure the tecnical term but its the same memory referance
19:52.49Torhal|workThat's the technical term.
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21:50.41Phobixhey all, question. I want to make an addon that will cycle through arena targets, psuedo code to follow
21:51.03Phobixif no arena focus, then focus arena 1, if arena 1 focues, focus arena 2, so on and so forth
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21:51.08Phobixpossible?\
21:51.42Phobixseems straight forwad, jsut curious if its locked down by the wow api at all
21:53.45Yoshimoyou could try to look through wowprogramming.com which should list what is protected and what not
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21:59.37GnarfozPhobix: impossible, can't target programmatically
22:00.06PhobixGnarfoz: not ture, but you cant focus, thats the issue
22:00.16PhobixI already have a working addon that cycles arena targets
22:00.27Gnarfozeh? of course it's true, and I now see you've been told the same in #wowuidev ^^
22:00.30PhobixI jsut want it to be able to cycle and fopcus
22:00.33Phobixyea
22:00.40Phobixwell, you said target
22:00.46Phobixwhich isnt entirely true
22:00.55Phobixtargeting works just fine
22:01.00Phobixbut focusing that target does not
22:01.12Gnarfoz!api target
22:01.13lua_botFound 42 possible matches for 'target'.  Please be more specific or check Google search results: http://is.gd/O6LG29
22:01.23Gnarfozuseless
22:01.25Gnarfoz!api TargetUnit
22:01.25lua_botTargetUnit: Targets a unit (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/TargetUnit)
22:01.35GnarfozThis function is protected and can only be called by the Blizzard user interface
22:01.46Phobixill paste you the code if you want
22:01.50Gnarfozso... you're doing something else, not sure what, but that's the one you want but can't use
22:01.51Phobixit works, all I know
22:02.29Phobixhttp://pastebin.com/W4RXYCVL
22:02.30PhobixGnarfoz:
22:02.50Phobixworks for party memebrs as well, but I use it for arena targets
22:03.15Gnarfozthat's not "programmatically", you're doing it on button press and using secure templates, that's probably fine
22:03.51Phobixoh, I see your distinciton now
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22:20.02znfI feel like stabbing the author of TidyPlates
22:20.50Torhal|workmelts znf down for troll fodder.
22:21.13znfWhy is it that every update breaks my saved variables? :(
22:22.50Gnarfoznot sure, mine hasn't broken... ever
22:23.41znfI had the threath widget turned off on all my chars on the graphite theme
22:23.47znfthreat
22:23.54znfnow it's enabled for every char
22:23.55znf:-/
22:29.21Funkeh`I ditched tidyplates when I realized it was using as much cpu usage as a damage meter
22:32.15znfyeah, i wanted to do that, too
22:32.23znfbut... I tried the alternatives and came back crawling :(
22:33.06znfall other nameplates addons I tried are horrible
22:43.43Gnarfoz!api server
22:43.43lua_botFound 9 possible results for 'server': GetLFGInfoServer, KBSystem_GetServerStatus, UnitIsSameServer, KNOWLEDGE_BASE_SERVER_MESSAGE, CHAT_SERVER_DISCONNECTED, CHAT_SERVER_RECONNECTED, KBSystem_GetServerNotice, IsVoiceChatAllowedByServer, EnumerateServerChannels
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23:41.12XuerianYou know, coming from a computer where I had to watch addon memory and cpu usage, it's nice finally having one where I really don't have to pay attention
23:42.30scotepiyeah, cant wait for wow-64 too
23:43.13XuerianI haven't been experiencing the memory related crashing some people have,but then I don't raid and don't have multiple active displays.. So it's more interesting than "yay" for me
23:43.15scotepiI got 8GB a few months ago becuse i run 2-3 VMs at once for work and watching wow use 2GB max is anoying
23:44.04Xuerianscotepi: Heh, for me it's being able to leave almost everything running, at least until firefox decides it needs to approach the 2gb limit myself. That and I never can seem to account for all the usage, but that's probably because I've got the wrong columns selected in procexp
23:44.06scotepioh crap... i play max windowed on a 1920x1080 and a 2nd 1280x1024 i have a browser of notepad++ open on
23:44.36scotepiewww FF, go Chrome
23:44.50scotepitho they have the same 'real' memory footprint
23:45.10XuerianNope, it doesn't have all the extensions I like or reasonable tab management. I like it otherwise
23:45.52scotepiff has tab management? only thing chrome is missing for me is firebug but im getting good at using the built in version, and thats getting better too
23:46.02Xuerianscotepi: Ever used Tab Mix Plus?
23:46.09XuerianBecause if not you were missing out.
23:46.29scotepii normaly run with 10+ tabs open but can hit 30 or more at times
23:46.39XuerianNot to mention decent vertical tab sidebars that actually work instead of being dropdowns
23:47.33scotepiscreenshots dont make it look vary useful https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus/
23:49.10XuerianMouse and keyboard shortcuts it adds are invaluable, plus adding progress bars (for those of us still on 1mbit), unread indications, and tweaking the buttons on the tab bar is useful
23:49.39scotepiouch, and i bitch about my pos 6mbit
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23:51.21XuerianHey, at least it's not dialup. Most of the time :p
23:51.28scotepilol
23:52.43Dark_Elfif firefox developers would get away from the plugin-container they would probably drop their memory consuption
23:52.44scotepii like my 6mbps some times, the 20ms ping in wow rocks considering im so far from the CO for DSL
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23:54.15scotepiouch, chrome is using 794,206k total memory
23:54.27Phobixchrome is a hog
23:54.42scotepi30% of that is my gmail tab
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