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00:00.06groktarPRE-POST MEETING!
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01:58.55znfXuerian, when you hover over an item and you press shift, you don't get the comparision of the loot you're wearing
01:59.09znfXuerian, it works if you press shift first, then hovering. But not hovering then pressing shift.
01:59.59Xuerianznf: Ugh. I wondered what I'd break if I removed the OnUpdate script. It was causing the cursor to flicker constantly..
02:22.06XuerianArgh there is no simple way to register for non-blocking notification of key presses, is there?
02:22.34XuerianWoho hey, there is, nevermind
02:22.41mckenziemchow?
02:22.49XuerianMODIFIER_STATE_CHANGED
02:22.59XuerianFor modifiers, but that's what I wanted
02:23.08mckenziemcah
02:23.13mckenziemci wanted something for every key : /
02:23.20XuerianYeah, that'd be nice too..
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02:32.29oscarucbcan anyone think of an addon that includes a custom cursor?
02:32.36Primerhrmm
02:32.46oscarucbI can't get SetCursor to work for anything but the built-in cursors
02:32.49Primerhttp://www.curse.com/addons/swtor <-- you guys know something I don't?
02:33.07PrimerOr is that just wishful thinking?
02:38.41znfPrimer, that'd be suicide for them not to have addons in a MMORPG :P
02:39.28PrimerThere are none as of yet
02:41.16PrimerI'd like to know ASAP once there's some sort of support for them, so I can start making a few
02:42.50znfhttp://tobolds.blogspot.com/2011/12/swtor-addons.html <--- someone's really bitter :P
02:45.00znfmmm, swtor doesn't even have macros?
02:45.04mckenziemc"Fortunately Blizzard at least put legal measures in place" isn't that technically false
02:45.18Primernope
02:45.25Primerno macros either
02:45.29mckenziemcthey published an explicit policy but that's in no way "legal measures"
02:45.38Primermakes healing very challenging
02:47.48Xuerian*annoying.
02:47.56Primerthat too
02:47.57znflike, who the hell will stop me from making an addon and selling it?
02:48.00znfwould I be sued?
02:48.09XuerianInterface handicaps a fun game do not make, see DotA 1/HoN
02:51.30mckenziemcapproved fansites would refuse to host it and blizzard could theoretically disable accounts of those developing it + add it to the banned addon list (assuming you don't keep changing the folder name) but afaik there's no non-contrived legal action they could take
02:52.01PrimerSo many whiners
02:52.08Primeron this thread about addons in SWTOR
02:52.54PrimerI think wow takes a perfect stance with regards to addons. Just enough functionality to make the game less annoying, but not enough to play the game for you
02:53.18znfmckenziemc, so basically they could bite my ass
02:53.24znfie: #care
02:54.03znfoh, there's that addon
02:54.08znfZygor leveling guide or something like that
02:54.53znfHow do those get away with it?
02:56.34znfthey sound quite expensive, $60 for the leveling guides
02:57.00PrimerI never knew that was an addon
02:57.04PrimerI thought it was a guide
02:57.24XuerianIf anything, charges for content.
02:57.35XuerianNot sure how that'd work any better..
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02:59.26znfanyway, bbl 12 hours or so
02:59.40znfgotta take a 600km round trip *sigh*
03:00.10XuerianEnjoy that..
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03:54.29Wobinoscarucb: it's not really possible to replace the cursor for any period of time
03:54.37Wobinoutside the built in stuff
03:56.38oscarucbthe built in ones work fine
03:56.50oscarucbSetCursor just seems to ignore any other arguments
03:57.01oscarucb!api SetCursor
03:57.02lua_botSetCursor: Changes the mouse cursor image (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SetCursor)
04:05.05Wobinwell it doesn't really
04:05.12Wobinbut it just resets the cursor on next onupdate
04:05.19Wobinso effectively it does =)
04:07.37XuerianHmm. How do you control the visibility of the item icon when showing the gametooltip?
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04:11.12Dark_Elfhttp://www.curse.com/addons/wow/cursor
04:11.38mckenziemcafaik that doesn't change the actual cursor
04:11.53mckenziemcjust adds trails
04:12.52Dark_Elfoopd
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04:23.46oscarucb@Wobin I assure you that it does change the mouse cursor, and you can arrange to make it permanent - thats not the problem im having
04:27.51Wobinmy knowledge is fairly outdated anyway, I haven't looked into changing the mouse cursor for quite a few patches
04:28.03Wobinthere may have been changes to the api that support it now
04:28.16oscarucbyou can change it and keep it that way within the boundaries of a frame you control
04:28.28oscarucbI think my problem is a BLP format issue
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05:13.29Wobinah yes. I was wanting to change the cursor in the world frame
05:13.57WobinI wanted to inject tooltips on gathering nodes
05:25.05TorhalPrimer: We have a huge DB of games in general. Replace swtor with planeshift and you'll get a page too.
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07:35.49KivinLooking for an addon which consolidates all the loot rolls in a raid in to a frame and tells who won them (so as to avoid chat log spam)- recommendations?
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14:56.33KaeltenHope everyone had a great holiday
14:57.10Humbedoohwell I got run over by a car and by bike was stolen :/ but other than that, a fine holiday :p
14:58.22Humbedoohfinally got mod_luahtml to cache compiled scripts, yay
14:59.53Humbedoohstuff here <? x = _G.x or 0; x = x + 1; if (x > 3) >X is more than three! <? end ?> <-- works <3
15:00.11Humbedoohif you add a "then" somewhere in there ofc
15:00.12StanzillaTorhal: gimme repo
15:16.58Torhal|workStanzilla: Dude, it's NOT MY CALL.
15:17.00Torhal|workSheesh.
15:17.11Torhal|worktransforms into a broken record.
15:17.29StanzillaTorhal|work: but you are the cutest one
15:17.36Torhal|worko.O
15:17.46Stanzillaand I like to annoy you :))
15:18.27Torhal|workzeros Stanzilla's reward points.
15:19.10Stanzillawa wa wa wait
15:19.27Stanzillapunish Ackis instead, he made me do it
15:19.36znfdonate your curse points to charity (ie: me and my new mouse fund - I'm broke atm)
15:21.46StanzillaI still have a CRT TV
15:21.51StanzillaI'm in need
15:25.44quiescenso.o
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15:54.31mitch0who killed bitbucket?
15:55.00quiescensoh noes
15:55.22Humbedoohsame people that killed sourceforge :<
15:55.26mitch0moo
15:55.37quiescensmoo
15:55.39mitch0probably those anonymous fellas
15:56.01Humbedoohanonymouse, the tiny but deadly hacker
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16:27.08Torhal|workFisker anonymized a guy once, Humbedooh.
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17:30.25groktarso i just put a pre-commit hook onto our svn server to prevent people from making commits without ticket numbers
17:30.40groktarand someone just made a commit for ticket 0000
17:30.42groktaramazing
17:31.17durcynwelcome to hell
17:31.19Funkeh`piss people off and they piss you off
17:31.38groktarhehe
17:35.16groktarclearly i should make it into a perl script that will check the database for an open ticket
17:35.45durcynclearly that arms race will work in your favor
17:35.47groktarwaits for the "screw groktar" ticket
17:35.48quiescensmakes an empty ticket and commits
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17:36.14durcynor, simply commit under the wrong ticket number of whatever's open at the time, like a lazy human
17:36.19groktaractually that would be better than what we do now
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17:36.29quiescensor combine both solutions
17:36.31groktarso it would actually get reviewed
17:36.38quiescensand commit with tickets assigned to groktar
17:37.28groktarhehe
17:41.38quiescensgoto sleep groktar
17:42.14groktargoing to sleep at 9:40 am on a work day certainly won't end badly for me
17:43.29Megalongroktar, the only bad thing about sleep is that it ends
17:45.06groktarlol
17:45.38quiescensthey don't have to know
17:45.44quiescenswhat could possibly go wrong?
17:48.41Torhal|workforces groktar to peer-review his boss's code.
17:49.26groktarthat's the 0000 offender
17:54.54Torhal|workROFL
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18:34.11HumbedoohMikk, http>//sf.net/p/modplua when you're awake
18:34.24Humbedoohhttp://sf.net/p/modplua even
18:42.36MikkHumbedooh: " retaining the global variables in each state." .. but there can be multiple states of the same file i assume?
18:43.25Humbedoohyeah, obviously
18:43.28Mikknods
18:43.44Mikkso it's not just precompiling, it's actually keeping the states
18:44.22Humbedoohfor the time being it keeps 50 states alive, but I'll put in options to restart them after N runs and such
18:44.45MikkHumbedooh: x = _G.x or 0;   <- are you inputting params straight into the global context??
18:44.53MikkDo. Not. Do That.
18:44.59MikkThat's the source of so many PHP exploits over they years.
18:45.26Humbedoohit's just an example, I don't really do that usually :p
18:45.37Megalonis it you, little bobby drop tables?
18:45.38MikkSo where do params end up?
18:45.59Mikk(Also be aware that people will USE your examples :P)
18:46.07Humbedoohwhen you say params, you mean..
18:46.54Mikkquerystring/post inputs
18:46.59Humbedoohit's not form data or any such, and I suppose the variables will be run in a local do ... end struct
18:47.15Humbedoohparams you get by calling parsePost() or parseGet()
18:47.28Humbedoohthey return a table of key/value pairs for the time being
18:47.35Mikkaaaah
18:47.41Mikkthat's reasonable enough
18:47.48Humbedoohthere's a page with the new http functions
18:48.14Mikkand works well for funny strings that have multiple instances of the same name too
18:49.24Humbedoohmore work on it is needed of course, but it's a start
18:50.12Humbedoohhttps://www.projectit.org runs entirely on a derivative of mod_plua
18:50.51durcynproject tit.
18:51.01Ackisboobies
18:51.08durcyna worthy endeavour
18:51.23Brybryboobies~
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19:16.31HumbedoohMikk, the purpose of that demo with _G.x was that if you refreshed 3 times, it'd display the message
19:16.38Mikkraa
19:17.00Humbedoohvery super complex operations you know...
19:17.20Mikki'm silly sometimes, shoot me :P
19:17.39Mikk(no i obviously didn't fully read the code ^^  )
19:22.25Megalonone day i'll come back to you offer, Mikk
19:23.01Torhal|workanonymizes Megalon.
19:23.53MegalonI AM LEGOS
19:24.00Megalonerm, I meant I AM LEGION
19:25.09Torhal|workconnects Megalon to airtonix.
19:27.05Megalonis that like.. a good thing?
19:34.03Torhal|workMegalon: Dunno, he might be DUPLO.
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19:58.44*** topic/#wowace by Ackis -> http://www.wowace.com | http://paste.wowace.com | http://twitter.com/WowAcecom | http://lua.org | Recent changes: http://kb.wowace.com/recent-changes/ | Curse Client v4: http://www.curse.com/client | WoWInterface Minion: http://minion.mmoui.com/ | Happy 40th birthday Sunshine`
20:00.56Torhal|workOnce again, Ackis is a complete douche.
20:01.17AckisSunshine`: ^
20:06.18PrimerI use an XMPP server that runs entirely on lua...prosidy
20:08.17Sunshine`but i'm not that old :(
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20:08.26Sunshine`meanie Ackis
20:08.42Ackisyay!
20:08.54*** topic/#wowace by Ackis -> http://www.wowace.com | http://paste.wowace.com | http://twitter.com/WowAcecom | http://lua.org | Recent changes: http://kb.wowace.com/recent-changes/ | Curse Client v4: http://www.curse.com/client | WoWInterface Minion: http://minion.mmoui.com/ | Happy birthday Sunshine`
20:11.23PrimerThen how old are you?
20:11.57Torhal|workSunshine`: Rage at him.
20:12.11Humbedoohemasculate him!
20:12.23Torhal|workVIVISECTION!
20:12.35Humbedoohyeah!
20:12.39Sunshine`it's okay, i'll just steal his signature
20:12.55Torhal|workBan him somewhere.
20:13.01Sunshine`and replace it with teletubbies
20:13.37Torhal|workSunshine`: No. Barney with Teletubbies in his lap.
20:13.37Ackisgrowls
20:13.38Humbedoohthe question begs; how old is Ackis...
20:13.43Ackiswait telutubbies?
20:13.45Ackissweet!
20:13.47Torhal|workHumbedooh: Three.
20:13.49AckisI'm older than Sunshine`
20:13.52Humbedoohthat old?
20:17.42Sunshine`:(
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20:46.05Gnarfozbtw
20:46.26Gnarfoztorhal, Kaelten, how about that Repo replacement? :O
20:47.16pompyGnarfoz: its up to prencher!
20:47.53Gnarfozcould have just let the old one live until the damn replacement is ready, I hate it when people do that
20:48.01Stanzillasame
20:48.03Gnarfoz(and wowace has a history of doing stuff like that :P)
20:48.04Stanzilladamn prencher
20:48.09Stanzillaalso damn Gnarfoz
20:48.11Stanzillajust because
20:48.15GnarfozI can live with that
20:48.20GnarfozFSM will be kind to me in the afterlife
20:48.23prenchernope, we couldn't just let the old one live
20:48.26Stanzillalove you anyway
20:49.34MegalonI propose Gnarfoz as the repo replacement
20:49.51Megalonjust forward all commits as email to him
20:49.57Megalonand he reports on them in here!
20:50.29prencherI like it
20:50.52Megalonpole's big adventure, wtf
20:51.27StanzillaGnarfoz: http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/turnbftovampire.jpg
20:56.12prencheralso, new repo. soon. verily.
20:57.11Gnarfozaha
20:57.16Gnarfoz:O
21:14.03Kaeltenyeah the server it was on got shut off
21:14.09Kaeltenso new one coming soon
21:14.10Kaeltennot TM
21:14.25Torhal|workBut I LIKE (™)
21:14.33Stanzillaso next year
21:14.42Torhal|workI said that last year.
21:15.03nicoli_sjust remember, every second you yell at torhal to get it done faster, it gets done 5 seconds faster
21:15.04Stanzillahaxer
21:16.01Dark_ElfRepo: Big Wigs Bossmods Alpha: r8954 for 4.3 52 minutes ago - http://www.wowace.com/addons/big-wigs/
21:22.04Torhal|workHey nicoli_s - when are you going to deploy the new Repo?
21:23.09nicoli_sas soon as you finish it and deploy it
21:23.18Torhal|workIt's finished!
21:23.25Torhal|workIt needs deployed. Get on that.
21:23.56nicoli_sill deploy it as soon as you deploy it, simple as that
21:23.57Dark_Elffinished is a word often used, but never achieved
21:24.11nicoli_sexcept in this case
21:24.16nicoli_sIm finished with my sentence, see?
21:24.41Dark_Elfno cause there was words after finished
21:24.41Humbedoohor are you...
21:26.58Dark_Elfby the way does anyone know if there is an addon that tells for instance. what an ironforge guard tells?
21:28.40Torhal|workpartitions nicoli_s and installs MS-DOS for dual-boot.
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21:29.03nicoli_sdoes that mean i get twice the pay?
21:29.33Torhal|worko.O
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