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| 00:53.57 | znf | So, I don't get it |
| 00:54.03 | znf | what's with the hype for the 64bit client of WoW? |
| 00:54.14 | znf | I mean, it's not like it's not already large-memory-aware |
| 00:54.41 | Torhal | o.O |
| 00:54.53 | Torhal | It has MOAR BITS! |
| 00:54.57 | Torhal | Or something. |
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| 01:03.29 | mckenziemc | runs foreign code on Torhal |
| 01:11.41 | prencher | znf: large memory aware only gets you 3gb, unless you use PAE which is horridly slow.. and 64bit instructions can net around a 10% perf increase depending on what they're using |
| 01:11.44 | prencher | also, people are stupid |
| 01:12.10 | pompy | prencher: who |
| 01:12.30 | znf | what do you mean only 3 gigs? |
| 01:12.34 | quiescens | does wow itself actually end up going over the usual limits anyway? |
| 01:12.49 | znf | I thought the whole idea of large-memory thigie was to go over 4gigs? |
| 01:13.05 | znf | quiescens, on ultra settings @ 1920x1080, yeah |
| 01:13.36 | prencher | znf: 32bit procs can't go over 2gb by normal means, unless you enable a feature in windows to allow procs to use 3gb; you can then go further still (48bits if memory serves), by using PAE, but that has a significant performance impact - it adds layering to memory lookups |
| 01:13.42 | prencher | so to really use more, you need 64bit |
| 01:14.00 | znf | PAE doesn't really work under Windows client-versions anyway |
| 01:14.18 | znf | PAE can be enabled only o server versions of Windows, if I recall corectly |
| 01:14.43 | prencher | I forget, either way it's not something you want |
| 01:15.08 | znf | I'd focus more on gettig proper multi-treading tbh :P |
| 01:15.37 | mckenziemc | treads upon znf. |
| 01:16.38 | znf | a 7 year game makes my quad-core q6600 seems like a pentium 2 running Crysis sometimes in 25man raids :-/ |
| 01:17.02 | quiescens | be fair |
| 01:17.11 | quiescens | it probably feels like at least a pentium 3 |
| 01:17.48 | prencher | to think bioware would make a more efficient engine than blizzard is pretty scary |
| 01:18.37 | quiescens | shrugs, they also don't have a codebase that started several processor generations ago |
| 01:20.13 | znf | yeah, I understand that, but still... |
| 01:20.14 | prencher | yeah well, they keep adding shit to it without modernizing tech to accommodate it.. look at sc2 and d3, they both run great |
| 01:20.35 | znf | you'd think after 4 expansions they'd update a big portion of the codebase to run properly on multi-core systems |
| 01:20.42 | prencher | it's not like they don't have the funds or the people to do it.. or a 12 million userbase |
| 01:23.23 | znf | I understand that they started the game back when CPU Clock frequencies were on the rise |
| 01:35.38 | Torhal | throttles mckenziemc's bandwidth. |
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| 02:02.37 | Primer | Also consider that you don't easily "add threading" to an existing program |
| 02:02.53 | Primer | You have to find tasks that can be easily parallelized |
| 02:03.08 | Primer | AFAIK, WoW is 2 threads: the game, and the sound |
| 02:10.58 | Wobin | You have a problem and you decide to use parallel processing. You now have two problems, at the same time =P |
| 02:11.44 | mckenziemc | hands Wobin an unsolvable rubik's cube |
| 02:12.07 | Wobin | takes the stickers off the cube and resticks them in order |
| 02:12.34 | mckenziemc | it's still not solved |
| 02:12.41 | mckenziemc | you've got a red sticker on the white side |
| 02:13.05 | Wobin | rotates the entire cube 90 to the left |
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| 02:29.23 | znf | well, why not use a separate thread for rendering stuff and another one for addons |
| 02:29.29 | znf | I'd love to use another thread for addons |
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| 02:30.21 | znf | hey Xuerian! |
| 02:30.28 | Xuerian | Hey znf. |
| 02:32.14 | Primer | znf: sure..why don't you add world peace to that |
| 02:32.54 | znf | he's mocking me |
| 02:33.14 | Primer | I'm right here |
| 02:33.37 | Primer | I'm just saying that's much easier said than done |
| 02:33.55 | Xuerian | Can you transmog heirlooms? |
| 02:35.52 | mckenziemc | yes |
| 02:35.56 | mckenziemc | but mailing them removes i |
| 02:35.57 | mckenziemc | t |
| 02:36.26 | Xuerian | Damn. |
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| 02:46.46 | Xuerian | Do you have to meet class limitations for items to use them for trasmog? |
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| 02:50.44 | znf | Xuerian, yes |
| 02:50.48 | Xuerian | Sad day. |
| 02:50.49 | znf | Xuerian, you have to be able to equip it |
| 02:51.00 | Xuerian | I /really/ like Arena T1 mage gear, I just don't want to play a mage :9 |
| 02:51.09 | znf | meh :P |
| 02:51.15 | znf | I really don't like vanilla gear |
| 02:51.16 | Xuerian | It's nice and simple |
| 02:51.24 | Xuerian | Not vanilla, bc o_0 |
| 02:51.25 | znf | the texture resolution is... ugh, so low |
| 02:51.27 | Xuerian | *arena* |
| 02:51.31 | znf | oh, I read just T1 |
| 02:51.33 | znf | say S1 :P |
| 02:51.43 | Xuerian | Fair enough, I don't pvp :p |
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| 02:53.01 | Xuerian | Well, I guess I'll use Voidheart |
| 02:54.16 | znf | I need to go to ICC to farm warlock look-a-like gear :D |
| 02:54.47 | mckenziemc | >.> |
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| 02:57.57 | znf | mckenziemc, what? >_< |
| 02:59.13 | znf | Would be nice to run around as a priest wearing this: http://goo.gl/EL1xp |
| 02:59.14 | znf | :P |
| 03:00.10 | znf | or as a mage |
| 03:00.14 | znf | http://goo.gl/o5IR3 |
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| 03:51.55 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 03:58.37 | mckenziemc | (they were out of weasels this time) |
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| 13:48.47 | quiescens | moo |
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| 14:56.30 | Ackis | hi torhal |
| 14:56.32 | Ackis | you're my hero |
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| 17:36.45 | znf | WTB an addon for darkmoon faire quest status |
| 17:40.11 | quiescens | hax |
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| 17:44.24 | znf | kills quiescens |
| 17:44.31 | quiescens | dies. |
| 17:49.33 | znf | halp with macro! |
| 17:49.35 | znf | /run local function f() t={};GetQuestsCompleted(t); l={29445,29444};for i=1,2 do if not t[l] then print(l) end end end;x=CreateFrame("FRAME");x:RegisterEvent("QUEST_QUERY_COMPLETE"); x:SetScript("OnEvent",f);QueryQuestsCompleted() |
| 17:49.47 | znf | all I get back are tables :-/ |
| 17:52.53 | Torhal|work | znf: Explain that statement |
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| 17:53.26 | znf | Torhal|work, I have no idea, just found it on wowhead for the OOX beacons, tried to adapt it for darkmoon faire |
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| 17:58.00 | znf | Just need something to figure out if I've completed the following quest IDs: 29451,29464,29446,29445,29444,29443,29457,29456,29458 |
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| 18:19.38 | quiescens | o.o |
| 18:20.18 | quiescens | that doesn't really look right for whatever reason |
| 18:20.27 | quiescens | where did you steal it from? |
| 18:21.43 | quiescens | i mean, hypothetically you probably could have a table who's keys are a table, but i doubt that is intended in this case |
| 18:22.03 | Torhal|work | tables quiescens. |
| 18:22.07 | quiescens | dies. |
| 18:22.27 | quiescens | lua> a={} b={} a{b}=1 pp(a) |
| 18:22.28 | lua_bot | quiescens: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '=' |
| 18:22.34 | quiescens | ): |
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| 18:22.56 | quiescens | lua> a={} b={} a[b]=1 pp(a) |
| 18:22.56 | lua_bot | quiescens: { [{ } (#2)] = 1 } (#1) |
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| 18:26.10 | znf | quiescens, nevermind the techical stuff, just fix it for me, kk? |
| 18:26.42 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 18:32.00 | Torhal|work | formats znf and installs DR-DOS. |
| 18:32.10 | znf | I'm lazy. |
| 18:32.20 | Torhal|work | ~lazy |
| 18:32.20 | purl | Hard work may pay off later, but LAZINESS pays off now! Work hard at hardly working! |
| 18:32.29 | Torhal|work | ~laziness |
| 18:32.29 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 18:32.32 | quiescens | woek woek |
| 18:33.14 | quiescens | it is probably supposed to be if not t[l[i]] then |
| 18:33.16 | quiescens | or something |
| 18:33.27 | znf | indeed, I'd rather write (and debug it for 30 minutes) a script to automate a task rather than doing the task in 2 minutes |
| 18:33.30 | quiescens | but i am too lazy to type out the whole thingy |
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| 19:44.38 | Kainore | Hey does GetInstanceInfo() return type party for dungeon raid for raid pvp for battleground and none if none is that all it return of types |
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| 19:50.06 | Xuerian | o/ |
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| 20:11.55 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/LvWjK.jpg lol |
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| 20:19.42 | Xuerian | lol really? |
| 20:21.45 | Xuerian | I really, really freaking hate printers and windows. |
| 20:35.53 | Humbedooh | wonders if he should release his apache mod_lua project into the world... |
| 20:36.12 | Humbedooh | or would it just be too weird |
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| 22:12.41 | Mikk | Humbedooh: lighttpd fixit |
| 22:14.04 | Humbedooh | :( |
| 22:14.33 | Humbedooh | I have enough protocols to worry about :/ |
| 22:15.03 | Torhal|work | You're not following protocol, sir. |
| 22:15.30 | Mikk | Humbedooh: having said that i'm sure i'd appreciate a mod_lua too =) |
| 22:15.48 | Mikk | Does it cache compiled code? |
| 22:15.51 | Humbedooh | gotta find a different name for it, since someone used mod_lua already :p |
| 22:15.53 | Mikk | Or am I being too optimistic now |
| 22:16.06 | Humbedooh | well it could do that I guess |
| 22:16.20 | Humbedooh | shouldn't be too difficult if I remember right |
| 22:16.31 | Mikk | Nope |
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| 23:37.33 | quiescens | moo |
| 23:39.00 | groktar | beef! |
| 23:39.08 | groktar | slaughters quiescens and tosses him onto the barbecue |
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