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| 00:45.25 | Brybry | nebula169: my dad so got hit by a form of that as well (for vista on one of his work tablets) |
| 00:45.52 | nebula169 | annoying ass shit, i haven't had a virus in forever |
| 00:45.54 | Brybry | I copied a couple of the files and links from where I think he got it from and then DBAN'd the system |
| 00:45.58 | Brybry | wasn't worth the effort to remove it |
| 00:46.18 | Brybry | praises the noscript gods |
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| 01:17.44 | Talryn | Is the packager offline? |
| 01:24.36 | Stanzilla | Status |
| 01:24.36 | Stanzilla | Running |
| 01:25.12 | Stanzilla | but there are errors :o |
| 01:25.26 | Talryn | I checked in a change but no sign of it yet. It's been 45 minutes or so. |
| 01:25.52 | Stanzilla | ouf_darc? |
| 01:26.14 | Talryn | Not mine |
| 01:26.40 | Talryn | Did the errors cause it to stop maybe? |
| 01:26.47 | Stanzilla | maybe |
| 01:26.48 | Stanzilla | Torhal: yo |
| 01:26.52 | Stanzilla | wake up |
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| 01:42.35 | oscarucb | The wowace packager appears to be stuck |
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| 02:03.55 | znf | mhm |
| 02:04.02 | znf | commited a change to skillet 6 hours ago :D |
| 02:14.49 | MysticalOS | heh doesn't matter it won't show up in curse client anyways, i hate manually updating mods. :( it's showing a snapshot of 30 hours ago for me. won't show more recent snapshots then that :( |
| 02:33.13 | pompy | prencher: ping |
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| 03:23.10 | pompy | Stanzilla: ping |
| 03:25.49 | znf | I'd like to get my hands on the guy who caused this ressurection bug |
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| 03:26.28 | znf | the "out of range" |
| 03:26.29 | znf | :-/ |
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| 03:44.28 | Torhal | MysticalOS: Yo. |
| 03:44.36 | Torhal | Check to see if DBM is updating now. |
| 03:50.17 | pompy | Talryn: its better now |
| 03:50.25 | Talryn | Ok, thanks! |
| 03:50.58 | oscarucb | Any news on fixing the packager? |
| 03:51.37 | Torhal | oscarucb: ^^ |
| 03:52.47 | pompy | oscarucb: its back to packaging! |
| 03:53.20 | oscarucb | sorry I think I missed something? |
| 03:55.17 | znf | lol |
| 03:55.23 | znf | my DK won 2xSouldDrinker |
| 03:55.34 | znf | guess who's going Frost DW! :P |
| 03:55.57 | MysticalOS | on curse client? shows -15 still |
| 03:58.08 | pompy | MysticalOS: yeah it didnt get packaged, its erroring again >< |
| 03:59.00 | MysticalOS | i've manually downloaded newer files and they are fine, it's just curse client can't see anything past an alpha from 41 hours ago |
| 03:59.15 | pompy | @describe ouf_darc |
| 03:59.19 | MysticalOS | it's often not just dbm though i have this problem with curse cient at least once or twice a week |
| 03:59.22 | pompy | thats the culprit. |
| 04:00.00 | MysticalOS | since 4.3 released sometimes curse wn't show alphas for anything for a few hours to a full day then all of a sudeen it refreshes, i ask windows users to confirm problem and they say it's just me |
| 04:00.05 | MysticalOS | does mac pull from a diff feed? |
| 04:00.16 | MysticalOS | i have to load a lot of mods manually |
| 04:02.49 | znf | MysticalOS, stop on DBM |
| 04:02.53 | znf | go and work on BigWigs! |
| 04:03.07 | znf | It's a sign, really. |
| 04:03.49 | MysticalOS | curse client probably wouldn't show me bigwigs updates either, i've had to manually install as many as 8 addons curse client said were "up to date" as if it was using a day old snapshot. ugg i hate manually updating too |
| 04:04.13 | MysticalOS | it's cause Kaelton doesn't update client anymore ;) |
| 04:04.29 | MysticalOS | i tease, cause cocoa devs a painin ass to find |
| 04:05.30 | znf | I haven't seen an update today in the curse client :P |
| 04:10.22 | pompy | MysticalOS: its gonna package now. |
| 04:10.47 | pompy | oscarucb, Talryn: same. |
| 04:10.51 | pompy | Torhal is your hero |
| 04:11.28 | Torhal | :P |
| 04:11.43 | MysticalOS | pompy, it's not a packaging issue, i'm talkinga bout something else, i've released 5 alphas since =15, every package works, curse client tells me i'm up to date with -15 when -21 is current |
| 04:12.25 | MysticalOS | this happens all the time with mac curse client. i have to manually update addons from wowace by downloading the packages cause curse client is stuck in an old snapshot |
| 04:14.52 | MysticalOS | http://mysticalos.com/client_notuptodate.jpg, and it happens with any mod, it just happens today only dbm was actually updated so i can't show the problem with anything else this time. |
| 04:16.57 | Torhal | MysticalOS: Try updating to -15 and see what actually happens :P |
| 04:17.16 | Torhal | Besides, why the fuck are you updating things you're a dev on suing the client? :P |
| 04:17.22 | Torhal | All of my repos are in my AddOns folder. |
| 04:17.24 | Torhal | :D |
| 04:17.31 | Torhal | s/suing/using/ |
| 04:18.08 | MysticalOS | my repo is in a diff folder, besides the tagging script artifically bumps the rev number on core even ifit wasn't updated, so it passes a version check, i'm too lazy to do that manually |
| 04:18.24 | Torhal | lol |
| 04:18.29 | MysticalOS | if i used a local repo in addon folder it'd always show me out of date heh |
| 04:18.44 | Torhal | The Curse Client ignores working versions. |
| 04:18.46 | pompy | it recognizes it as a dev vesrion |
| 04:18.48 | pompy | ^ |
| 04:18.50 | MysticalOS | i could just do what caleb did with libfail and say rev or 999 but meh |
| 04:19.09 | MysticalOS | yeah i know |
| 04:19.31 | MysticalOS | i don't have any working versions in addons folder, i use the alphas like everyone else |
| 04:19.49 | Torhal | So you actually push changes and THEN test? |
| 04:19.49 | MysticalOS | every addon i do work on has a diff local copy, strange i suppose but i just do it that way |
| 04:20.15 | pompy | lol |
| 04:21.01 | MysticalOS | i test stuff that needs testing when possible, but half the time i can't test anything anwyays, i log a boss fight, then after raid is over i impliment changes, but i can't actually spawn the boss and test til later :\ |
| 04:21.19 | Torhal | Heh, true. |
| 04:22.21 | MysticalOS | there isa pretty fierce pre commit hook in place though in our repo, if you have any hint of a typo it declines commit. keeps the localizers from generating lua errors from missing , |
| 04:23.37 | Funkeh` | what is the |3 string for in wow again? |
| 04:24.31 | Torhal | Funkeh`: I believe that's for languages with strange pluralization rules. |
| 04:24.56 | Torhal | Uness I'm thinking of something else. |
| 04:25.00 | Torhal | Unless* |
| 04:25.02 | Funkeh` | that's |4 |
| 04:25.05 | Torhal | Ah. |
| 04:25.22 | znf | MysticalOS, what does it take to bribe you to drop DBM completely? |
| 04:25.26 | Funkeh` | e.g. |4man:men; |
| 04:25.51 | Funkeh` | this is being used as "|3-3(%s)" where %s is a formatted string |
| 04:25.58 | MysticalOS | torhal, curse client did indeed regress me 6 versions, so it really does think that 41 hour old vesrion is latest |
| 04:26.13 | Torhal | Urk. |
| 04:27.48 | znf | bad curse client! go to your room! |
| 04:50.20 | quiescens | torhal broked it |
| 04:50.23 | quiescens | again |
| 04:52.00 | Torhal | pours oatmeal down quiescens's pants. |
| 04:52.06 | quiescens | dies. |
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| 05:09.04 | mckenziemc | cooks quiescens. |
| 05:11.52 | quiescens | dies. |
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| 05:46.01 | znf | ressurects quiescens |
| 05:46.22 | mckenziemc | kills quiescens |
| 05:46.32 | znf | casts Rebirth on quiescens |
| 05:46.44 | Torhal | vivisects mckenziemc with quiescens. |
| 05:46.51 | mckenziemc | mana burns znf |
| 05:47.04 | znf | casts shadow word: death on mckenziemc |
| 05:47.11 | znf | SWD crits for 300k |
| 05:47.14 | znf | znf dies |
| 05:55.20 | pompy | ~lart Torhal |
| 05:55.20 | purl | slaps a compatible dib on Torhal's head |
| 05:55.27 | quiescens | o.o |
| 05:56.20 | Torhal | ~whalecrit pompy |
| 05:56.20 | purl | ACTION crits pompy with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. pompy dies |
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| 06:00.07 | vithos | is it supposed to be impossible to install addons with the curse client that are marked abandoned? |
| 06:00.35 | vithos | can't install http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/hermes/ |
| 06:02.11 | vithos | but after i manually unzip it, curse client detects it |
| 06:02.38 | quiescens | how dare you defy the system |
| 06:03.32 | MysticalOS | curse client doesn't let me install fubar or cartographer. so i'd say definitely something there that saves the user heartache |
| 06:03.45 | pompy | theres no curse page for the addon |
| 06:03.50 | pompy | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/hermes |
| 06:04.04 | mckenziemc | that shouldn't matter |
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| 06:17.52 | quiescens | dies. |
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| 08:19.33 | Torhal | mckenziemc: Yes, it should matter. If we are no longer hosting it, we're no longer hosting it. |
| 08:22.08 | pompy | ^ |
| 08:22.16 | Kalroth | < |
| 08:23.19 | pompy | > |
| 08:24.36 | vithos | does abandoned always imply no longer hosting? |
| 08:25.05 | mckenziemc | Torhal: what vithos referenced |
| 08:25.47 | Torhal | vithos: It won't show up on Curse, so Curse is no longer hosting it. Therefore, the Curse Client won't show it. |
| 08:25.57 | mckenziemc | but curse is hosting it |
| 08:26.00 | Torhal | Nope. |
| 08:26.03 | mckenziemc | via curseforge/wowace |
| 08:26.13 | Torhal | Developer sites, not distribution sites. |
| 08:26.15 | pompy | thats not curse! |
| 08:26.42 | vithos | seems bizzare to me |
| 08:26.59 | mckenziemc | Torhal: but again, that shouldn't matter |
| 08:27.08 | pompy | not approved == abandoned pretty much |
| 08:27.11 | pompy | ;) |
| 08:27.19 | vithos | abandoned doesn't mean not working or useless |
| 08:27.42 | Torhal | shrugs. |
| 08:27.51 | Torhal | I didn't lay forth the rules, I'm simply explaining them. |
| 08:28.05 | mckenziemc | the client handles them after you've installed them manually |
| 08:28.25 | mckenziemc | and it sounds like you still have the client links on the project pages :P |
| 08:29.30 | mckenziemc | i had the 3.x version offer to install a pre BC mod when i made an addon folder that had the same name : / |
| 08:29.31 | Torhal | That's ckknight's fault. I'll make a ticket/ |
| 08:29.45 | Torhal | And 3.x hasn't been supported in three years :P |
| 08:29.51 | Torhal | Go make some more shit up :P |
| 08:30.01 | mckenziemc | err |
| 08:30.04 | Torhal | :D |
| 08:30.08 | mckenziemc | didn't you bump the major recently? |
| 08:30.27 | vithos | hermes seems to be a prime example of the flaw. it works, people are recommending it to each other because it is useful, but then you have to go through extra hoops to install it just because the author is (my interpretation) saying "if it breaks, i won't be fixing it" |
| 08:30.33 | Torhal | I'm not even sure we still have the source code to be honest. |
| 08:30.36 | mckenziemc | this was about a year and a half ago |
| 08:31.32 | vithos | it also seems weird that the curse page would be deleted |
| 08:31.37 | vithos | like, what if there were useful comments there |
| 08:31.43 | mckenziemc | well it wasn't deleted |
| 08:31.44 | vithos | recommending another addon instead, or something like that |
| 08:31.48 | mckenziemc | just not transitioned |
| 08:32.13 | vithos | not sure what you mean |
| 08:32.18 | vithos | it still exists but can't be accessed? |
| 08:32.20 | Torhal | It's "deleted" |
| 08:32.37 | Torhal | Ok, for example: Cartographer had been completely broken for years. |
| 08:33.07 | Torhal | It was still showing on Curse, and getting "recommended" because of its number of downloads. |
| 08:33.28 | Torhal | This was pissing people off, because they were downloading it and getting 40+ Lua errors. |
| 08:34.06 | Torhal | If we simply let all AddOns, regardless of their usefulness, exist after being abandoned….that would be a sorry service. |
| 08:34.13 | vithos | if it were me i would have solved that by displaying a warning banner saying it's been abandoned and may not work on the site |
| 08:34.24 | znf | people can't read |
| 08:34.27 | vithos | and maybe an extra popup dialog in the curse client |
| 08:34.29 | znf | better to remove it |
| 08:34.31 | SunTsu | vithos: people are known not to read warnings |
| 08:34.34 | Torhal | They can't read, seriously |
| 08:34.46 | Torhal | And a large number of folks post TICKETS to US about AddOns. |
| 08:34.58 | Torhal | Logistical nightmare. |
| 08:35.11 | Torhal | "This was broken in the 4.2 patch! Fix!" |
| 08:35.13 | vithos | there used to be warnings instead? |
| 08:35.19 | SunTsu | vithos: you can add huge warnings to a addon's download page that it will e.g. erase all their profiles and people will get by surprised if it does |
| 08:35.29 | znf | oh, btw, I believe (99% sure) that the Curse_thingie addon that the client installs creates an infinite loop and crashes the client |
| 08:35.36 | Torhal | Cartographer had two-inch-tall letters saying "THIS IS ABANDONED AND LIKELY WILL NOT WORK!" |
| 08:35.44 | Torhal | And hundreds of people a day were downloading it |
| 08:35.51 | pompy | i need to add a big warning in arl.. "STOP POSTING DUP TICKETS NOOB" |
| 08:35.52 | Torhal | And bitching at us. |
| 08:36.17 | znf | CurseProfiler <--- this one, I mean, pretty sure it causes an infinite loop in the game |
| 08:36.40 | Torhal | znf: That shouldn't be auto-installed anymore. |
| 08:36.44 | Torhal | It's useless. |
| 08:36.54 | Torhal | It was for WoWDB which we haven't had in years. |
| 08:36.57 | vithos | i'm guessing the warning was in the addon descrition? |
| 08:36.57 | mckenziemc | Torhal: they were getting them through the curse site not the dev sites though right? |
| 08:37.03 | Torhal | mckenziemc: Yep. |
| 08:37.08 | Torhal | vithos: Aye. |
| 08:37.13 | Torhal | Two-inch-tall letters. |
| 08:37.14 | vithos | i.e. you have to scroll down to see it |
| 08:37.37 | znf | Torhal, should tell the client in a remote way or something to delete it from the game(s). |
| 08:37.40 | mckenziemc | then don't make a curse.com page but do let the dev site install links work? |
| 08:37.50 | Torhal | You can go to clientsupport.curse.com and add a ticket suggesting such, but I don't believe the site devs are going to change how things work. |
| 08:38.15 | znf | If it were for me, I'd beat the site devs with a stick 10 hours / day |
| 08:38.38 | mckenziemc | actually |
| 08:38.44 | mckenziemc | do the links on the dev sites work at all? |
| 08:38.54 | mckenziemc | i assume the problem i was having with them was my connection |
| 08:39.04 | Torhal | Anyway, you can also PM the author and ask them to let you take over |
| 08:39.25 | Torhal | mckenziemc: Which links? |
| 08:39.37 | mckenziemc | the Install links on the project pages |
| 08:39.45 | Torhal | Dunno. |
| 08:39.46 | Torhal | Heh. |
| 08:39.49 | mckenziemc | i assume it's me rather than them all being broken but idk |
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| 09:44.40 | stencil | Just in case there's someone on who can fix it, the wowace packager appears to be stuck/frozen/broke etc. My commits been in the pending list for an hour or so. |
| 09:49.47 | quiescens | blames Torhal |
| 09:51.02 | mckenziemc1 | ~lart quiescens |
| 09:51.02 | purl | whacks quiescens with the cluebat |
| 09:54.59 | quiescens | dies. |
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| 10:18.50 | Torhal | stencil: FIxed. |
| 10:22.34 | Stanzilla | pompy: pong |
| 10:45.51 | quiescens | moo |
| 10:46.03 | mckenziemc1 | deprecates quiescens. |
| 10:46.23 | stencil | thanks Torhal! |
| 10:47.01 | Megalon | abandons mckenziemc1 in the desert |
| 10:47.57 | Torhal | np |
| 10:48.24 | Torhal | stuffs mckenziemc1 into a bottle, which he then uses to Christen quiescens on his maiden voyage. |
| 10:50.07 | Megalon | quiescens, fair-haired maiden of the west |
| 10:50.20 | quiescens | dies. |
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| 15:17.16 | quiescens | １０枚 スーパーロリコンＺ(最終形態) |
| 15:17.17 | quiescens | ７～９枚 どこに出しても恥ずかしくない、一人前のロリコン |
| 15:17.19 | quiescens | ４～６枚 今ならまだ引き返せる、軽度のロリコン |
| 15:17.21 | quiescens | blarg |
| 15:17.23 | quiescens | stupid thingy |
| 15:17.26 | quiescens | １～３枚 多分常人、このサイトに来たのは何かの間違い |
| 15:17.29 | quiescens | ０枚 むしろマザコン、もしくはショタコン |
| 15:17.33 | quiescens | i don't even know where that is from |
| 15:17.57 | Torhal | scratches heiroglphics into quiescens with a rusty hanger. |
| 15:18.01 | quiescens | oh |
| 15:18.10 | quiescens | someone flooded another channel |
| 15:18.12 | quiescens | ): |
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| 15:18.19 | quiescens | and right click paste |
| 15:18.22 | quiescens | yays |
| 15:18.52 | Torhal | Stop eating paste, quiescens. |
| 15:24.53 | quiescens | mm paste |
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| 15:27.51 | Megalon | quiescens, stop pasting kim jon-il's last will |
| 15:28.45 | quiescens | north korea is so crazeh |
| 15:29.51 | quiescens | at least, from our perspective i guess |
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| 15:48.50 | znf | so... the hell is wrong with the curse client? |
| 15:48.57 | znf | no updates :-| |
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| 17:21.57 | Talryn | I thought I read there was some change on how the time is updated within a frame update. Is that true and if so where can I get more information on that? |
| 17:22.56 | haste | GetTime() doesn't update within a single frame as of 4.3 |
| 17:23.01 | haste | that's really all there is to it |
| 17:24.05 | Talryn | Does that affect anything such as Ace's timers? |
| 17:24.37 | Talryn | I'm guessing that doesn't affect most addons otherwise. |
| 17:24.48 | haste | I don't see why it should |
| 17:25.59 | Talryn | Ok, thanks |
| 18:14.30 | quiescens | did they ever end up finding out why they decided to change that? |
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| 19:06.20 | MysticalOS | pokes Torhal |
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| 20:06.54 | father0fnine | I'm looking for help creating a slash command (type, I assume, would be execute) that takes an arg to act upon... for example: /cmd find something. info[0] gives me "cmd" and info[1] gives me "find" but I can't figure out how to get to "something". Pointers welcome. |
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| 20:22.14 | MysticalOS | yay someone fixed curse client, it's now caught up and showing the 2 addon updates it wasn't able to see stuck in a 48 hour old snapshot |
| 20:22.46 | MysticalOS | even got a subscription update email showing like all 8 commits it missed |
| 20:23.21 | father0fnine | it was broke? |
| 20:24.56 | MysticalOS | the mac version was at least, confirmed with 2 other mac users, it was stuck on an old 2 day feed and not detecting any updates from today or yesterday |
| 20:25.33 | MysticalOS | happens a lot lately, and seems to be mac version only cause windows counter parts say they always see the latest |
| 20:26.26 | father0fnine | since curse is the only way I know if something new is out there... I don't think I'd notice if there *was* an issue. |
| 20:27.09 | MysticalOS | since someone killed repo, i just have to check wowace and curseforge for recent packages |
| 20:27.59 | father0fnine | Is it just coincidence that wowace shares the name with the addon library ace3? |
| 20:28.34 | ThiefMaster | probably created by the same guys |
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| 20:54.05 | pompy | MysticalOS: wasnt just mac, |
| 20:55.48 | pompy | MysticalOS: r7052 is the latest? |
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| 21:22.13 | MysticalOS | yes |
| 21:22.20 | MysticalOS | decursive update also wasn't showing |
| 21:22.36 | MysticalOS | so it wasn't just dbm either, it was any addon updated in last 2 days |
| 21:23.01 | MysticalOS | all good now |
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| 21:57.34 | groktar | omg i hate rounding jashdfjklsahfjklsa |
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| 22:24.18 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://paste.wowace.com | http://twitter.com/WowAcecom | http://lua.org | Recent changes: http://kb.wowace.com/recent-changes/ | Curse Client v4: http://www.curse.com/client | WoWInterface Minion: http://minion.mmoui.com/ |
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| 23:09.39 | Torhal | ThiefMaster: Not just probably. |
| 23:09.44 | Torhal | MysticalOS: re-poke |
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