IRC log for #wowace on 20111221

00:00.52TorhalFunkeh`: Replacement's already been written, just needs some tweaks and deployment methinks.
00:11.20znfwtb repo back :-(
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00:12.32Gnarfozwtf
00:12.37Gnarfozkilling repo :O
00:12.41Gnarfozwryyyy
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00:14.04groktarcreeps up behind Gnarfoz
00:14.09groktarpours water on his phone
00:14.44Gnarfozgrabs the spare one
00:25.53Kaeltennew repo is better :)
00:26.10Funkeh`old repo was present
00:26.16Funkeh`make new repo so and we shall see!
00:26.53KaeltenI'll see if we can't get him online in the next day or so
00:27.01Kaeltenwe needed to migrate everything off the old box that he was on
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00:53.46Megalonwtf is in the fucking badlands
00:53.54Megalontell me terra nova, i must knoooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwww
00:54.43vithosis there any armory tool where you can search a guild to see if anyone in it can craft a particular item?
01:00.15TorhalMegalon: I'm pretty sure you and Fisker are the only people on the planet who watch that silliness with bad CGI.
01:02.52MegalonTorhal, it's the power glove of tv shows
01:02.57MegalonIT'S SO BAAAAAAAAAAAD
01:03.19Torhalretches.
01:03.20Megaloni watched the pilot because dinosaurs
01:03.28Megalonand i stayed for the trainwreck the whole series is
01:03.45TorhalI thought that was the reason for CSI: Miami's continued existence.
01:03.49MegalonI don't know if there is even a single one-dimensional character in this series
01:04.28Megalon0.5 dimensions is the most 90% reach
01:04.33TorhalHaha
01:05.07Megalonthe script is corny, in a corny way
01:05.18Megalonthe dialogs are ed wood worthy
01:05.38Megalonthe cgi could comes from an old game gear
01:06.02Megalonit's like a huge car accident on the other side of the highway
01:06.22Megalonyou look, you think it's terrible, you think off all the bad things that happened there
01:06.30Megalonand 4 hours later you realize that you are still watching it
01:07.10TorhalOuch.
01:07.18TorhalSo it's worse than tvtropes?
01:07.43Megalondidn't read the tvtropes about it
01:07.58TorhalNo, I meant about being sucked in.
01:07.59Torhal:D
01:08.29Megalonoh :D
01:08.38MegalonTorhal, you have no clue how much it sucks
01:08.49Megalonso yea, it sucks you in :P
01:09.09Megaloni watched brba, dexter
01:09.21MegalonI think my brain just needed something where it has nothing to think
01:09.44Megalonlike an 80s action flick, with 80s cgi in 13 episodes!
01:11.59TorhalZOMFG
01:15.22Megalonbut without sly or arnie :/
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01:38.44prencherfor a minute there I thought you were talking about warehouse 13
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01:47.25LinkerZzhey, anyone there? i've got a problem ):
01:48.17LinkerZzrofl. there is a million ppl on the channel, but no one is there? '-'
01:48.46LinkerZzgreat...
01:49.32mckenziemchides.
01:49.40LinkerZzYOU
01:49.42LinkerZzhelp me
01:49.42LinkerZzT_T
01:51.11LinkerZzSOMEBODY HELP ME @_@
01:51.59NechcknIf you do not ask... you will recieve no answer.
01:53.02LinkerZzI'm currently using Bartender4 for the first time in this computer, and all the bars are showing up, except for the main bars. Bars 1 through 10 simply doesn't show up. All of them are enabled, I've already tried to center them, but none of them shows up ):
01:55.46NechcknThat I do not know.. but someone likely does; hang out for a bit and someone should chime in who does.  Maybe try a default profile - if there is one in the options?
01:56.33LinkerZzIn the Presets, there is a few. and I've already applied the 'Full Reset' one. Already reinstalled the addon... dunno what else I can do .-.
01:57.08NechcknI use dominos, myself
01:57.27LinkerZzWhat's that?
01:57.53NechcknAction bar manager
01:58.22LinkerZzDoes it disable that ugly blizzard art bar?
01:58.33mckenziemcthe gryphons?
01:58.42Nechcknno
01:59.58LinkerZzOh fuck. I hate it. That's why I use Bartender
02:01.15Nechcknmost bar Addons either allow you to disable 'em or use their own
02:01.45LinkerZzIs dominos a good one?
02:02.51NechcknI think so - that and bartender are like the top choices from what I have seen
02:04.06LinkerZzI see... I'll try it then. Thanks for the intel
02:05.02NechcknNot 'up' on the differences, but I know Dominos does everything I need - and then some.
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02:09.05LinkerZzI've just installed it. It's a little confusing. I didn't managed to click on the bars, move them or whatever. '-'
02:10.05NechcknShould be either a minimap button or a LDB button that you can click/right click.
02:10.10LinkerZzAnd I can't drag any action to them...
02:10.23NechcknThat will pull up the options, and allow you to move things where ever you want.
02:11.01NechcknThere will be some notice on the screen saying "placement mode' once you click it.  Then drag/move show/hide all of 'em.
02:12.03LinkerZzYeah, I figured out that it would be like that since Bartender is it. The Icon says to left-click to configure them, shift+right click to bind them and right click to open the options window. But when I left click the button, nothing happens. I mean, the notice does open, but I can't move nothing, nothing shows up, no bars, nothing...
02:12.42Nechcknhttp://www.curse.com/addons/wow/dominos has the commands and such in the 'description'
02:13.10NechcknI do not have game, nor code here - so just going by memory, myself - but that lists what you need to set up and move, etc.
02:14.03Nechcknhttp://code.google.com/p/tullamods/wiki/DominosBasics has a 'ton' of info, too.
02:15.59NechcknTime for supper, if there is anything else, someone should be able to help - just give them some time to see your questions and such.
02:16.06NechcknGood luck! =)
02:16.14LinkerZzActually, the commands do exactly what the config does. The notice shows up in the middle of the screen, but no bars shows up, nothing
02:16.21LinkerZzOh well, ok then. Thanks for helping.
02:16.45NechcknDid you disable the other AddOn?
02:17.11LinkerZzYep, I've removed it.
02:17.30NechcknIf you have two trying to do the same thing - they can really cause trouble.  Ensure you have all bars set to show, all the time in the main Blizzard config, too, although have never had an issue.
02:18.00NechcknIt should show ghosts of the bars, when in config mode, you can then click them and show/hide/move them
02:19.03LinkerZzYep, I've imagined that. But nothing shows up. Only the notice. No bars, nothing. But, by the way, the Blizzard bar dissapeared. There is only an icon, and that's all. Blizzard's default bars are already enabled. Bartender is already disabled.
02:19.16Nechckncheck the wiki, it has that in the 'advanced' info - if no bars show, ever, try renaming AddOns to OLD_AddOns and only place Dominos in the folder - then start WoW - that way, you know that nothing esle is interfering.
02:19.49NechcknNormally, when you go into move mode, all the bars are shown on the screen - even those you have nothing in, so you can move them about and then show/hide them.
02:20.08LinkerZzYep. Bartender did that too. Actually, both addons have the same problem to me...
02:20.43NechcknSo, try closing all the way out of WoW and then only place one Bar AddOn in a new, empty AddOns folder
02:20.58NechcknThat will ensure that any stray settings/AddOns are not interfering.
02:21.27NechcknOnce you do see them and all, then slowly move over your other AddOns from OLD_AddOns to AddOns until you see the issue, again.
02:21.40LinkerZzWell, I use the Addon Control Panel. I've disabled them all, reloaded the UI, then enabled only Dominos, then reloaded UI again. Same problem.
02:21.42NechcknYou do need to close wow, completely when adding/removing and the like
02:23.05NechcknUp to you how to do it - Do need to head out, reservations in 23 minutes.
02:23.34LinkerZzOk, bb dude. Thanks for everything. I'll figure something out
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03:19.37vithosFunkeh`, yor'sahj priorities isn't picking colors sometimes on 10heroic this week
03:20.14Funkeh`can you elaborate?
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03:25.09vithosit doesn't do a raid warning
03:25.10vithosat all
03:25.24vithosif i open the interface there are no settings
03:25.27vithosit says raid difficulty ??
03:26.12vithoshowever, bigwigs icon did show that it is loaded
03:27.14Funkeh`the settings will only show properly in the instance, is that when you opened it?
03:27.28vithosyes
03:27.35Funkeh`weird
03:27.36vithosi reloaded ui and now it shows options
03:27.41vithosi'll see if it works this pull
03:34.19vithosnope
03:34.35vithosno lua errors
03:37.38vithosmodule loaded and this time the options do show correctly
03:38.19vithosweird thing is first attempt tonight it was fine
03:39.10Funkeh`vithos, oh
03:39.14Funkeh`I know the issue
03:39.23Funkeh`we recently fixed it in bigwigs, forgot to port it over
03:42.34Funkeh`vithos, commited, should be on curse client now
03:43.21Funkeh`though I have no idea why it would have shown the "??", that fixes it not alerting
03:44.29vithosalright, thanks
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03:57.08vithosworking so far
03:59.07vithoshave to go pull zon'ozz instead now though
03:59.19vithosroster problems :/
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05:24.49quiescensmoo.
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11:28.03Zasuruswhat happened to the curseforge packager? :| The project has disapeared from curseforge! :O http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge-packager/
11:29.51Zasurusprencher, nevcairiel... ether of you know why I can't access it? I have a bug (stopping anyone doing an hg packaging) :( and not I can't even monitor d ticket! LOL
11:30.35mitch0zasurus: I found that hg tag, hg push works
11:31.15airtonixhg sucks
11:31.40airtonixreal men use zip archives via email
11:32.24Zasurus@airtonix: :p
11:32.38ZasurusI must be a real man at the moment then! ;)
11:33.38Zasurus@mitch0: Cool has it been fixed? I know there was a problem but looks like a load of my old ones just got packaged (yesterday some time) but out of order!? But if it's working thats cool.
11:35.32mitch0well, tagging from the web and using other hg tagging methods didn't work for me
11:35.43mitch0so I just use hg tag "lala" ; hg push
11:35.56nevcairielZasurus: you're supposed to use the curseforge project now for tickets, http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/
11:36.01mitch0with some other kind of tag it created a lot of heads
11:36.15Kalrothnevcairiel: can i get bon jovi tickets there too
11:36.27Zasurus@Nevcairiel: OK Cool where the tickets moved or dumped?
11:36.33nevcairielhg is still like the bastard step child however, you're better off using anything else
11:37.09Zasurus:( LOL I use to use SVN but was convinced here to go to hg... Bugger I like hg now! :P
11:37.26nevcairielyou listen to the wrong people
11:37.30nevcairielgit is where the power is at!
11:37.31ZasurusI agree
11:37.39Zasurusto the listening to wrong ppl that is
11:37.56ZasurusI didn't go GIT as hg seemed more windows friendly
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11:46.28ZasurusWell as hg isn't even getting posted to IRC any more I guess it is truely scrued :( Suppose no disadvantage of learning GIT! :) TortoiseGIT should make it simmalar! :) Anyone know if I can convert my hg repo to GIT?
11:47.16nevcairielirc reporting is broken at all right now
11:50.21ZasurusGlad it's not a person thing then :) Are we moving servers or something? Not like Curse to have this many problem at once. :)
11:50.57nevcairieli think they are rewriting some parts of the backend
11:55.40ZasurusWell wish em luck! :)
12:01.24ZasurusHumm the conversion from hg to GIT is crappy... Linux seems to be required and as I have like 20 repo's on hg and the hg packager DID work a bit ago I think I will stay manual for now and hope they fix it. :( Will add a new ticket so I can monitor their progress.
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12:03.18ZasurusOh nevcairiel your right the irc reporting looks like the only think wrong now. packager has picked it up again :) Maybe they fixed it (for now). LOL
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12:10.36Stanzillajust always blame Torhal
12:10.37Stanzillaor Torhal|work
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12:28.17Megalonhttp://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_luc15zSedh1qfeiolo1_500.jpg
12:28.27Megalonthis is true for very large cats and very small jobs!
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12:49.15[Wobin]Bah.
12:49.23[Wobin]I wanted to buy swtor to try it out
12:49.47[Wobin]Star Wars™: The Old Republic™ is not available in your region
12:49.54harlwuff
12:50.04[Wobin]good to see we're still second class netizens
12:50.56Stanzillalike a bawss
12:51.43[Wobin]oh -awesome-
12:51.50[Wobin]MARCH THE 1ST?
12:53.15Kalrothare you even human, Wob
12:53.38Kalrothi've seen your wildlife
12:53.43Kalrothno real human would live there
12:53.47Stanzilla[Wobin]: may the fourth :3
12:53.54[Wobin]pft, you develop immunities
12:54.32Kalrothhttp://www.dinosoria.com/cinema/bbc_02.jpg see, this picture was taken outside Melbourne
12:54.53[Wobin]oh they're just playing
12:55.43Kalroth:D
12:59.05[Wobin]mutter mutter region locked origin store mutter
13:01.40KalrothI'll order you an euro copy!
13:01.52[Wobin]I'm going through g2play.net
13:01.54Kalrothpingtime will only be 2800-4000ms
13:01.56[Wobin]I hope it's valid
13:02.11[Wobin]Kalroth: so, pretty typical ping times, then =P
13:02.18Kalrothhaha
13:08.38quiescenso.o
13:08.44quiescensmarch 1st?
13:09.15quiescensthat's like, old schoool release delay
13:09.57ZasurusAnyone else getting tickets from curse client users since the update a week ago saying they can't update any more? I got like 6 from different ppl in the last week all from the client (so no chance of getting more info!) http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/sexymap-tracker-button-fix/tickets/?status=+
13:15.59ZasurusCool just me. :) Maybe it is a prob with my addon after all then! :O LOL
13:16.50ZasurusWill try pusihing another build up encase it's something wrong with that. I am blaming Wobin's t-rex's
13:17.58quiescensalways that wobin's fault
13:23.42[Wobin]sprays quiescens with t-rex pheremones
13:23.46[Wobin]releases the t-rexes
13:42.01airtonix[Wobin]: are you a ninja?
13:42.12[Wobin]would I tell you if I were?
13:44.10airtonixwe'll only ninjas can survive queensland
13:44.37[Wobin]I don't live there
13:44.47[Wobin]Or if I do, you never saw me live there
13:45.38airtonixi've battled countless yowies
13:45.43[Wobin]right. Commencementing of download of swtor client commenced
13:46.01airtonixi have the wooden bowls of yowie fat to prove it
13:51.15quiescensdon't do it wobin!
13:54.30airtonixintervention time!
13:54.40airtonixhe's addicted already.
13:56.01[Wobin]just pondering if I should join the TOG guild
13:56.24[Wobin]Or see if Matticus is still recruiting
13:56.40airtonixyou should join the dark side
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16:16.52Torhal|work[05:37:56] <Zasurus> I didn't go GIT as hg seemed more windows friendly <-- What the hell are you smoking? Git, Windows-friendly?
16:16.55Torhal|workchokes.
16:17.21Torhal|workAlso, IRC reporting isn't broken. The bot simply isn't on.
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16:35.28mckenziemcdisables Torhal.
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17:10.36quiescenso.o
17:14.35nevcairielTorhal|work: so .. turn it on? :)
17:15.12Torhal|worknevcairiel: No can do.
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17:15.28Torhal|worktypes kill -9 mckenziemc
17:15.30nevcairielwhats with the no can do attitude!
17:15.43Torhal|worknevcairiel: I don't have access to the server it's on? :)
17:15.50nevcairielthat would never stop me
17:15.54Torhal|workHah
17:16.12Torhal|workKaelten: HAX! ^^
17:16.14Torhal|work:D
17:16.30nevcairielIf all else fails, have ackis bug Kaelten
17:16.58Kaelten:P
17:17.13Torhal|workThere's actually a replacement bot. I believe when the repositories were moved to a different server they just decided to not bring repo back at all.
17:17.22Torhal|workWell, that version anyway/
17:17.25quiescenspoor repo
17:17.26quiescens):
17:28.20Megalonwhat if curse changes headquarters
17:28.26Megalonwill they bring you back Torhal|work?
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17:29.25Torhal|workMegalon: I'm not in the HQ, so your argument is invalid.
17:30.00Megalonare you in my basement?
17:30.06MegalonI thought I cut the internet down there, damn
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17:36.34prencherwe made an executive decision for Kaelten to be lazy and not give me a new server to put the bot on
17:36.55Kaeltenhey gotta have my swtor time
17:37.10Megalonswtor, shmotor
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17:37.41prencheralso Torhal|work has been working on a new bot for like 8 months now
17:37.49Kaeltenit's like playing a masseffectified kotor with your million closest friends
17:38.05prencherwho are all the chosen one
17:38.08prencheraccording to storylines
17:38.15prencher3000 chosen ones per server, it's quite lucky
17:38.22Kaeltenabsolutely
17:38.51quiescensi don't have a million close friends ):
17:38.59Kaeltenneither do it
17:39.02Kaeltenneither do i*
17:39.06Kaeltenbioware's a story house and they definitely brought that to front with swtor
17:39.12znfI miss Repo.
17:39.48nevcairielwait, we have no repo because Kaelten was playing? What kind of place is curse running over there!
17:40.05Kaeltennevcairiel: bah take a joke :P
17:40.15nevcairielcalls hubert, what an outrage!
17:40.24Kaeltenhe's higher level than I am
17:40.46Megalonso you also suck at swtor
17:40.58Megalonpwn3d!
17:40.58quiescenso.o
17:41.08quiescensthat's not very nice
17:41.16Kaeltenna, I'm like second highest in the office
17:41.17Kaelten:P
17:41.30quiescenssit on the table
17:41.31nevcairieli'm level 32, but for some reason i didnt feel like playing today
17:41.33nevcairieloh well
17:42.01nevcairielalderaan feels boring
17:42.12Kaeltenhehe, I'm on tatooine still
17:42.25nevcairieli should go back there and do the bonus quest series
17:42.33nevcairieli like killing sand people
17:42.39Kaeltengotta have your hobbies
17:42.43Kaeltenclass?
17:42.48nevcairielsith sorceress
17:43.01KaeltenI went juggernaut
17:43.02nevcairielhealing speced!
17:43.13Kaeltentank!
17:43.26nevcairieli can probably forget about logging in now
17:43.33nevcairielmain rush .. nah ..
17:43.36nevcairielplay again tomorrow
17:43.43prenchercan go play with Kaelten on his RP server
17:43.49prencherthey say thou a lot
17:43.53Kaeltenyup we'd give you a guild invite
17:44.05nevcairielUS timezone server, forget it =p
17:44.24Kaeltenlol
17:45.21quiescenscrazeh 'mericans
17:45.23nevcairieli was recruited by some random guild after doing a flashpoint with them, i'll see how it goes
17:45.50quiescensyou make it sound like you didn't have a choice
17:46.11nevcairielwow, there was no queue on the server
17:46.17nevcairielwhats the deal
17:46.37nevcairielyesterday even in the morning there was a queue
17:47.06quiescenseveryone must have quit
17:47.38nevcairieli think its funny how basically every other quest sends you a follow up letter with some credits
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17:50.44nevcairielKaelten: do you also suffer from the problem that you are way too high level for the zone you are in, but dont want to skip stuff to catch up? :d
17:51.12Kaeltennevcairiel: yeah, lol
17:51.26znfthank god for holidays! my server is actually usable in orgrimmar now, no longer waiting 2 seconds for mounting up
17:51.27HumbedoohI only read that last line nev wrote, and it could be conscrued as dirty :\
17:51.55Kaeltenthey did a really good job designing the quests so they don't feel 'in the way'  so it seems silly to skip them
17:52.01KaeltenI have started skipping heroics though
17:52.22nevcairieli skipped the bonus series on tat, thought i can always finish it later for the story elements
17:52.34nevcairielthey are usually not related to the main story, so thats ok
17:52.54Kaeltenyeah I did the bonus series on balmora
17:52.59Kaeltenthat zone _never_ ended
17:53.43nevcairieli mustve selected the wrong dialog options, my char just made out with some npc
17:54.21Stanzillayeah right
17:54.23znfgirl-on-girl action?
17:54.25mckenziemcO.o
17:54.45znfso wait, was SWTOR officially launched today?
17:54.51nevcairielyesterday
17:54.59nevcairielbut i've been playing since last week
17:55.08mckenziemccheater
17:55.16nevcairielindeed
17:56.01Torhal|workprencher: EIght months, my ass.
17:56.09HumbedoohI was too lazy to actually play the beta :\
17:56.10Torhal|workGo rewrite the packager already :P
17:56.21Humbedoohyou rewrite it, Torhal!
17:56.28Humbedoohyou're obviously just loitering again
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17:56.45Torhal|workHumbedooh: I'm too busy reading IRC.
17:56.59prencherHumbedooh: what, you want it to get worse than it already is?
17:57.02Humbedoohpfft
17:57.14Humbedoohcan it get any worse? :\
17:57.20Torhal|workHumbedooh: Yes.
17:57.32prencheryou'll see when the new repo arrives
17:57.40Torhal|workI'd just add repository hooks that said "Upload a zip, noob."
17:57.42nevcairielit works just fine, its just racist against hg sometimes
17:57.54prencheractually it supports hg better than the other two
17:58.07Humbedoohyeah I was gonna say git was worse :p
17:58.09Torhal|workprencher is hg-biased.
17:58.17Torhal|workHe thinks git should DIAF.
17:58.18nevcairielthen something mustve changed
17:58.42prencheroh it will die
17:58.46prencherit is just a matter of time
17:59.03nevcairieleverything will die eventually
17:59.37prencherpoints to the quadrillion svn repos on curseforge
18:00.53prenchernevcairiel: but no, the packager is equally shit on all repo types
18:01.02prencherthe problem is/was the hooks, which have been improved somewhat since then
18:01.20prenchermercurial is python, so it gets the new hotness first, that's all it boils down to
18:02.53Humbedoohhas moomin shaped gingerbread cookies, mmmm
18:03.47Humbedoohsprinkles some of them on quiescens
18:04.04mckenziemcdies.
18:04.24Humbedooh:\
18:04.51Torhal|workHumbedooh: Go write a library or something, you're killing the channel regulars.
18:05.31HumbedoohI'm writing, I'm writing!
18:05.52Humbedoohnot a libra...or well, a Lua API for a server
18:05.57Humbedoohsort of a library I guess
18:24.39Mikkand yes non-svn on curseforge/wowace should DIAF
18:24.54Mikknothing here is remotely big enough to need more than svn, and the rest just create headaches
18:25.21Mikkpoints at his 111th attempt to get git-remote to work against curseforge
18:25.25nevcairielits your choice wth you use, but i use git for every project, just because it allows me to manage myself better
18:25.48nevcairielgive svn an equiv of git add -p, and you might have a chance. :p
18:27.40Mikknot saying git doesn't have pluses over svn
18:27.54Mikkjust questioning their value here
18:28.23nevcairielits just easier for me to use, why burden myself with a broken svn workflow
18:29.23Mikkwell the svn workflow is to checkout a new copy if you want to start a parallel development
18:29.24nevcairielonce you've used a smarter vcs, you just cannot go back
18:29.33Mikkwhich also makes sense
18:29.55Mikksplit commits don't necessarily work if your first commit depends on something in the second commit
18:30.08Mikk(developer error yes but we're human)
18:30.21Humbedoohnev isn't
18:30.30Mikklies i've seen him fuck
18:30.31Mikkup
18:30.34Humbedoohhe's like...Swedish or Martian
18:30.40Mikkunless that was a clever ruse to make me think he's human
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18:30.50nevcairielthats just stupidity or carelessness, that can happen with any vcs =p
18:31.08Mikkis swedish for the record!½
18:31.23nevcairielhalf swedish?
18:31.33Mikkno just swedish with fat fingers
18:32.02Mikk(incidentally ½ is next to ! on swedish keyboards)
18:32.17nevcairielif i bend the logic a bit, i could say i work for the swedish government, does that count
18:32.30Humbedoohthat's not a good thing :\
18:32.51Mikkblinks
18:33.05Mikkokay now i'm interested
18:33.19Mikkhow the hell does one work for a foreign government except not
18:33.23Mikkunless one is a double agent
18:33.27Humbedoohor Swedish
18:33.56Mikknice catch, but i happen to know he's not =)
18:33.59nevcairieli work for vattenfall, which is owned by the swedish state, i guess
18:34.08Mikka true
18:34.16nevcairieli said the logic had to bend a little =p
18:34.22Mikkexcept they're not exactly a very active owner
18:34.23HumbedoohI've worked briefly for SMHI :\
18:34.37Mikkvattenfall fucks the swedish people over in all ways possible
18:34.45Mikkprices x 10 since deregulation yay
18:35.09nevcairielmore money they can pay me, i guess
18:35.12nevcairielexcept, they dont =P
18:35.13Humbedoohmarket economy + monopoly = bad
18:35.15Mikk(and the government that did it promised deregulation would lower the prices of course)
18:35.29Mikkit's not a monopoly
18:35.40Humbedoohwell a olibopoly then
18:35.41Mikkit's a fucked up you-scratch-my-back-i-scratch-yours situation
18:35.43Mikkyeah
18:35.46Humbedooholigopoly even
18:36.10Mikkthe system is set up so that the price of the most expensive source in use dictates how much everyone gets paid
18:36.17Mikkso different power sources take turn having problems
18:36.24Mikkso that we have to buy coal power from germany
18:36.30Humbedoohit'd work fine if market theory could actually be applied to real life though :p
18:36.46Mikknot a lot of coal power, but enough that it's actually "in use"
18:36.58nevcairielwhats wrong with our coal power
18:37.00Mikkswedish nuclear power plants have the lowest uptime in the _world_
18:37.20Humbedoohstop placing them near capital cities then ;<
18:37.24Mikkand the water power dams "forget" to stock up and shit like that
18:37.35nevcairielhey, they are shutting down our nuclear plants, thats a pretty bad uptime =p
18:37.39Humbedoohgets all his power from a purrdy little windmill
18:38.00nevcairielstupid japan has every running around scared
18:38.03Mikkso.. nuclear + water producers get paid what it costs to produce coal power
18:38.04nevcairieleveryone*
18:38.08Mikkvery very profitable
18:38.12Humbedoohstoring power of that magnitude is more difficult than it may seem, sadly
18:38.30nevcairielstoring power is inefficient no matter what you do
18:38.42Humbedoohwhich is why coal and nuclear is teh awesome still
18:38.47Mikk& water dams
18:38.53Humbedoohdams can run dry :p
18:39.00nevcairielso can a coal mine
18:39.10Humbedoohthen you buy coal elsewhere \o/
18:39.13Mikksnork
18:39.20Humbedoohthe snork is a bitch
18:39.26Humbedooherr I mean his sister
18:39.29Mikkbut yeah gifv more ocean based power, it seems Very Good to me
18:39.51Humbedoohlike those wave energy things?
18:40.01nevcairielat least lignite (brown coal) is too inefficient to ship over long distances, they put the plants basically on top of the mining operation =p
18:40.22MikkHumbedooh: yeah those and others
18:40.34Mikklike tidal power plants
18:40.42Mikkmoon isn't going to stop spinning around the earth any time soon!
18:40.59Humbedoohif only there was a plant that ran on political gaffe
18:41.07Mikkhaha
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21:53.00MysticalOSwell i'l be damned, blizz did change the timing on all of staghelms abilities, sigh. i knew everything seemed, longer
21:55.59Torhal|workdeep fries MysticalOS in DBM sauce.
21:56.01Torhal|work:D
21:57.19MysticalOSthis change would affect bigwigs too, so if i confirm it in enough logs i'll update both :P
21:57.41MysticalOSit seems adrenaline rush is not increasing his energy rate by 20%
21:57.50MysticalOSit looks morelike 10-15% now
22:04.21MysticalOShmm, my data verifies it's 15%, i wonder why such a pointless change on irrelevent content this late
22:07.01Stanzillabecause blizzard sucks
22:09.06GnarfozI can confirm BW timers are off ;)
22:09.23Gnarfoz(at least the jump ones, the only other one I paid attention to was cleave/claw/swipe whatever)
22:10.17MysticalOSyeah, i'm sure they are. for same change. i'll fix em both in a bit, just analyzing more logs, i'd hate to just use my own logs as a baseline, so i'm comparing multiple in WoL expressoin editor
22:10.25MysticalOShttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/ztkmcalseroqdu6k/xe/?s=5105&e=5470&x=spellid+%3D+97238+or+spellid+%3D+98374+or+spellid+%3D+98379
22:10.26MysticalOSheh
22:10.45MysticalOSi love that tool :)
22:25.48znfFunkeh`, can you fix the timers for spine in 10man?
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22:26.41znfFunkeh`, spine in 10man is 5x Searing Plasma, then Fiery Grip. 25man is 2x Searing Plasma, then Fiery Grip
22:27.26MysticalOSthat's such a pain in the ass to do, cause you have to do it on GUID, per each corruption. :\
22:52.35znfbribes MysticalOS to stop working on DBM
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23:43.36znfdoes DI still affect Ferals?
23:52.51sbuwhy not?
23:58.17Stanzillasbu: I found something cool
23:58.29Stanzillahttp://simbot.dyndns.info/
23:59.47sbujmhhhm

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