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00:23.12Gnarfozis there a good online version of the Dungeon Journal that's being kept up to date?
00:25.29Kethodo you mean the text from the journal?
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02:31.32Repo10big-wigs_outland: 03funkydude * r15 / (2 files in 2 directories): Doomwalker: some guesswork
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03:15.51Repo- zhCN/zhTW update.
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04:13.17Repo- Save valor points (not displayed yet)
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05:13.30quiescens!
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05:58.00Repo336797c: Massive overhaul: Completely re-arranged the code structure. Re-named some upvalues and completely did away with others. Removed unnecessary code and simplified much of what remained - much more is needed. Announcements are now delayed until after the player is fully in-game so that they will not be missed.
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06:06.03steev_swtor beta weekend over :(
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07:02.05asmodaisteev_: and how'd you like it?
07:02.30steev_asmodai: i preordered the game as soon as it was over
07:03.41asmodaiBut mechanics-wise, it's still like any other MMO or not?
07:05.49steev_pretty much, a few differences
07:05.51steev_pvp was fun
07:06.07asmodainods
07:06.20steev_there are some *great* differences though
07:06.25asmodaiSuch as?
07:06.30quiescensmoo
07:06.35steev_well okay, say you're in a group
07:06.37asmodaiGo to sleep
07:06.44steev_you happen to be off... getting training or some such
07:06.54steev_someone in the group stumbles upon a quest giver
07:06.55quiescensno moo? ):
07:07.02steev_so they click it
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07:07.12quiescenshow dare they
07:07.16steev_the game then prompts everyone in the group nearby to start conversating
07:07.28quiescensis conversating a word
07:07.30steev_and if you're NOT nearby, it prompts you to start a holoconversation
07:07.40steev_so you show up as a holograph
07:07.51steev_and can accept or turn in quests that way
07:08.28asmodaiAh
07:08.30asmodaipretty nice
07:08.32steev_class specific "instances"
07:08.55steev_meaning only 1 of your class can go in, so only 1 BH, 1 Sith warrior, so on
07:09.11quiescensi usually never like that o.o
07:09.34steev_well they are class specific, and really, you don't NEED anyone else
07:09.49steev_once you hit... level 10 i think, you get an assistant
07:09.57steev_think hunter pet, but humanoid
07:10.20quiescensits just that you can end up at (x) level, and then find out you can't play with a friend because they happened to be playing the same class or whatever
07:10.39steev_quiescens: not quite
07:10.56steev_you each go into the instance, and it's just you in each one, and it's not like they are hard
07:11.20steev_i need to pre-order a second copy for my ex
07:11.44asmodaiMmm, interesting
07:12.12steev_you can tell though, it's not like it springs up suddenly that it's like that
07:12.19steev_the instance area is green
07:12.28steev_so when you walk through it, it's just you in there
07:12.38steev_(and your helper/assistant)
07:12.43steev_who also attacks and heals you
07:13.13steev_the story lines are good, the environment is amazing
07:13.51asmodaiWildStar also had those quest pop ups.
07:13.54steev_the only real complaint is the same complaint in every mmo, the f'n travel time (although they have "taxi" service, which is like flight paths in wow, except it's SW so you use Speeders :D)
07:14.02asmodaiWonder if they were group as well.
07:14.14asmodaiYea, taxis are always needed at first.
07:14.19steev_there's another group to it
07:14.23steev_er, part
07:14.35steev_you have dark side and light side, as well as rep with your assistant
07:14.54steev_so you talk to someone and they are like oh god, please don't kill me
07:15.13steev_and you can be like f off, die <100 dark side points> or k, ill let you live <100 light side points>
07:15.19quiescensmaybe you should stop threatening to murder everyone
07:15.35steev_dude, i'm a bounty hunter, it's what i do
07:15.39asmodaihehe
07:15.44steev_dead or alive, is easier to bring in dead
07:15.56asmodaiSo how does light/dark side work out in the long run then?
07:15.58quiescensalive is usually worth more
07:16.21steev_asmodai: it's almost a second leveling system, with rep/gear
07:16.46steev_not all quests have dark/light side options
07:16.52steev_but when they do, they are *awesome*
07:17.23steev_there was one quest that sticks out, you have to track down a republic noble
07:17.40steev_who somehow got into a slave camp, except when you get there, you find out he escaped, so you track him back
07:18.07steev_and it's because he's dating this... stuck up paris hilton type
07:18.17steev_then then you go through this schpiel
07:18.31steev_and various options move the dialog along, and at the end
07:18.45steev_you have 3 options, let him stay there, kill him, or kill her
07:19.11steev_(and it's instanced, because it's a class quest)
07:19.40steev_i was grouped with another BH and we were comparing notes as to how things went based on our answers
07:19.54steev_killing her netted 50 darkside points, but killing him netted 100 darkside points
07:20.02steev_as you move up in rank you can buy awesome gears
07:20.17steev_of course, if you're republic, you probably need to be all carebear and not kill much
07:20.49quiescensso killing the person you were trying to find is more evil than killing some relative stranger?
07:21.02quiescensyou were probably looking for the "kill them all" option
07:21.19steev_killing them is what you're supposed to do, so you get more darkside points (it's a good thing to get as sith :P )
07:22.11quiescensthat's not how it works
07:22.16steev_yes it is!
07:22.18quiescensif killing him is what you're supposed to do
07:22.23quiescensthen killing the bystander for no reason
07:22.30quiescensis more ebil than just killing who you came for
07:22.33steev_well no
07:22.37steev_you kill her because she's a bitch
07:22.52asmodaihaha
07:23.10steev_and i love that they don't sugar coat it, they are all like, oh, you're zabraki, you're not worthy of being an imperial
07:23.47steev_and in 3 days of playing (not non-stop), i only made it to level 14
07:24.04steev_because i was busy looking around and exploring, the landscape is awesome
07:24.22quiescensmy point totally stands o.o
07:24.24steev_you get a "codex" which is basically... knowledge of anything you come across
07:24.45steev_quiescens: no it doesn't.  killing bitches doesn't pay
07:25.15quiescensbut its a measure of good/evil so to speak!
07:25.20steev_oh, and when you log in, instead of the shitty tips
07:25.22steev_like in wow
07:25.23quiescensnot "whether you do as you were told/supposed to"
07:25.32steev_it reminds you of where you are progressed in your class quest line
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07:25.43steev_not like, oh shit, you gotta go kill some nubs
07:26.06steev_little background, sprinkle in your toons name, why they are on the quest, and what is needed
07:26.24quiescensjust because killing the guy is the "correct" course of action, killing the bystander would be considered the more evil act
07:26.41steev_but she's not just a bystander
07:26.53steev_quiescens: get the game and do the BH quest line, you'll understand
07:27.15quiescensi'll bet there will be at least one situation where killing bystanders will get you your dark sidey thingies and finding a way not to will get you less or none
07:27.19steev_you also get "social" points
07:27.28steev_quiescens: of course it does
07:27.38steev_but that specific situation it makes sense
07:29.06steev_you get those by doing the quests, remember how i said you can holograph in, well you interact with the quest giver as well, and then the game "rolls" to see which answer it takes for the group
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07:29.29steev_if it picks yours, it gives you 4 social points, otherwise you get 2 social points (or none if you don't answer)
07:29.48steev_and you can buy stuff with social ranking as well
07:29.59steev_sadly, i didn't get a chance to do any crafting
07:30.19steev_that is where SWG was far and above from WOW
07:30.36steev_i *hate* crafting in wow, it's too generic and crap
07:30.52steev_but based on what i saw, i think it is going to be similar, although a little more customizable
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08:46.13Repodelete note by right click
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09:22.45quiescensmoo.
09:26.44koaschten|pad~seen vhaar
09:26.45purli haven't seen 'vhaar', koaschten|pad
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11:16.10RepoAdded Version to the bottom of the Info tab
11:16.11RepoStandardized the Achievement msg
11:16.12RepoSaved achievements to the database
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13:44.10Yoshimoif my fps drop from 150 to 7 while crafting chocolate cookies , which of the addons in this list could i blame for it: gnomeworks, gnosis, lilsparkysworkshop ?
13:44.28quiescensmm cookies
13:50.16koaschtenYoshimo i'd suggest grabbing auctionhouse, activate cpu profiling, craft and check the cpu load
13:50.29koaschtenerrrr
13:50.31koaschtenoptionhouse
13:50.41Repo10libbabble-itemset-3-0: 03arith * r32 LibBabble-ItemSet-3.0.lua: translation update to WoW 4.3.0.14980
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13:55.24quiescenskoaschten: close enough
14:04.20Megalonkoaschten, i'd also suggest grabbing something, but that's a different story
14:04.52Repo10libbabble-itemset-3-0: 03arith 044.3-beta-r32 * r33 : Tagging as 4.3-beta-r32
14:05.07koaschtenMegalon are you trying to step into Fisker's footsteps for witty comments?
14:06.51Megalona small step for me koaschten
14:06.58Megalonbut a big step for mankind
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16:26.24sintAckshttp://lulzshirts.com/colorblind - FUCK YOU IMAGE. FUCK YOU.
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16:33.57quiescenso.o
16:34.11quiescensspeaking of
16:34.23quiescensshould make a shirt that has one of those circles with the dots in it
16:34.32quiescensthat has a number
16:34.36quiescensbut make it all the same colour
16:35.45groktaromg.  one of our client has sent 280,000 requests to one of our webservices today.  only 6800 of those requests were unique :D
16:36.01quiescensreported
16:36.15nevcairielclearly, they are trying to dupe you
16:36.46groktarat least our servers are holding up
16:36.59Megalonor it means that groktar's shitty service only returns useful data 2.5% of the time
16:37.08groktarlol
16:37.21MegalonI'M ONTO YOU AND YOUR 'SERVICE' GROKTAR
16:37.50Megalonbut I need to zoom in further on this shit
16:37.55Megalonbut I can't find my sunglasses
16:38.07sintAcksquiescens, it's been done
16:38.07groktaris just happy that the rest of the site is still running fast
16:38.08sintAcksalso fuck you
16:38.16quiescenso.o
16:38.26quiescensthat's not very nice
16:38.26sintAcksthe shirt thing
16:39.01sintAckshttp://www.zazzle.com/i_heart_the_colorblind_tshirt-235402101745612970
16:42.18quiescensnoes
16:43.20quiescensi mean make one is actually all the same colour
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16:43.24quiescensand just pretends to say something
16:43.38sintAckswat
16:44.03quiescensmebeh you can trick someone into wondering why they can't see it
16:44.09sintAcksoo
16:44.11sintAcksthat would be funny
16:44.24quiescensspells out teh joke careefullly
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17:48.47groktarpoor webservices server is sending me emails now
17:48.51groktarit's crying out for help
17:54.29Megalongroktar, I warned you
17:54.46Megalonstop it with your sentient server experiments
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18:31.31groktarput some 1337 caching on that webservice to turn 1s requests into 5ms requests
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18:40.40quiescenscheating
18:40.59quiescensturns off groktar's caching
18:57.35Torhal|workpersecutes quiescens as a malcontent.
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18:58.20Megalonputs Torhal|work into a geocache
18:59.10Torhal|workdeletes Megalon's favicon.
18:59.34Megalonboah
18:59.40MegalonBOAH!!!1
19:00.44Megalonthis is getting personal Torhal|work
19:00.58Megalonyou don't just simply touch another mans favicon
19:01.03MegalonTHIS IS NOT HOW SOCIETY WORKS
19:01.09Torhal|workYOU CACHED ME, BRO!
19:02.03Megalonbut they told me to hide things i like in it
19:02.05Megalonwtf :(
19:03.02Torhal|workLemmings.
19:03.21asmodaiit's torhal.
19:03.39Megalonwhy would i put lemmings in there
19:05.35Torhal|workMegalon: To frighten and awe people, of course.
19:11.15Megalonmhm
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19:12.13Megalonbrb, buying a pack of jumping spiders... and a deer cam
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19:22.31Repo10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r8714 / (2 files in 2 directories): frFR Update
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19:57.15Repo10big-wigs: 03Starinnia * r8715 Locales (2 files in 1 directory): fix missing opening quote
19:59.10StanzillaMegalon: http://i.imgur.com/3vLDf.jpg
19:59.31Stanzilla2 1/2 feet sea spiderz
20:08.25Megalonfeet is not a unit
20:08.27Megalonit's a limb
20:12.04Megalonbut 90cm ain't bad for a spider
20:12.21Megalondid you read that? cm, as in CENTIMETER
20:17.47Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r8716 DragonSoul/Locales (3 files in 1 directory):
20:17.48RepoDragonSoul: Revert broken Chinese translations, helps to format as UTF8.
20:19.56Torhal|workdelivers a METRIC kick to Megalon's groin.
20:20.20nevcairielbetter then an imperial kick
20:20.33Torhal|workHeh
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20:24.33Megalonlook at all the metric fucktons i give
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20:46.19steev_Ackis: you played on WH too?
20:46.32steev_never realized you were that ackis
20:49.29znfZAM/wowhead are offering 25.000 SW:TOR beta keys, btw
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20:51.55Fiskerso is everyone
20:53.33znfAre they?
20:55.05Torhal|workznf: http://www.curse.com/betas/swtor-na
20:55.15znfI missed that :-)
20:55.28znfbah, limited to US and Canada there
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20:55.48znfanyway, either I missed a few lines of text, or there's no download link
20:56.34znfI found the "link"
20:57.20znfSo... this is some sort of stress test, with the abundance of beta-keys handed out?
21:04.47Gnarfozznf: there's a eu link, too, just replace na with eu ;)
21:05.07znfright, I mindlessly clicked it without actually reading it :P
21:13.40nebula169everyone gets a beta invite this month
21:14.00nebula169the promo keys are for people that don't have a swtor.com account
21:14.19Megalonwhat's the 14th month, because according to curse my brithday is 12.14
21:16.05mckenziemcyou were never born
21:16.15Megalonwhat the fisker
21:16.28Megalondid my mom lie to me all those years???
21:17.18znf*cough*cloned*cough*
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21:24.47Megalonwhat do you mean cloned
21:25.01MegalonI OPERATE THIS MOON BASE FOR 20 YEARS NOW
21:25.12Megalonand you tell me i'm a clone? don't be ridiculous
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21:59.48RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/mosphetcookies/. MosphetCookies. Tom65789 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal.
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23:34.09Torhal|work@project arl
23:34.10RepoTorhal|work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author), Jim-Bim (Author), pompachomp (Author), Torhal (Maintainer), Zhinjio (Former author), BWMerlin (Contributor). Updated: 41 hours ago. Tickets: 13/1356
23:37.11Repo10mnameplates: 03mangeg 07master * 1.17-2-gdc1849d / (26 files in 8 directories): [+2 commits]
23:37.12Repodc1849d: - Health bar tweaks
23:37.13Repo3bfb4aa: - First commit of 2.0
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