IRC log for #wowace on 20111003

00:20.38Repo10stratafix: 03oscarucb * r15 StrataFix.lua: 4.3 tweaks
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01:40.05Repo10ace3: 03mikk * r1038 AceSerializer-3.0/AceSerializer-3.0.lua:
01:40.06RepoAceSerializer-3.0: Yank all support for NaN for now. It would seem WoW 4.3 can't generate them (it throws errors), so we obviously can't encode/decode them.
01:42.16Repo10ace3: 03mikk * r1039 tests/AceSerializer-3.0.lua: Tests for AceSerializer-3.0 r4 (no more NaN support)
01:45.47Gnarfozuhm
01:46.00Gnarfozare you sure that's a planned change and not some random bug?
01:46.07Gnarfoz@Mikk
01:46.36Mikkwell see... they're using the "NaN trick" for shrinking all Lua values by a lot
01:46.47Mikkby encoding the datatype in the "signalled NaN" bits
01:46.57Mikkwindows clients now error on division by zero
01:47.03GnarfozI have no idea what that means, might be the vodka
01:47.35Mikkthe only blurry answer we have is "blahblah intended change blah blah stability of our client blah"
01:47.39Gnarfozis this Lua implementation stuff? (meaning, how they implement Lua in their $otherlanguage client)
01:47.48Mikkthis is lua v5.2
01:47.56Gnarfoz'tis? hm
01:48.05Mikkwhich comes with this "NaN trick" as a compiler flag, which they have enabled
01:48.10Gnarfozah!
01:48.24Mikkor well it's enabled by default on windows builds
01:48.28Gnarfozso which one is it... saving memory or removing /0 errors
01:48.31Gnarfoz:o
01:48.43Mikkthe NaN trick saves memory
01:48.48Mikkquite a bit too
01:49.01Mikkwhich of course ups performance a bit
01:49.15GnarfozI see
01:49.35Mikkbut yeah division by zero kabooming the client ....
01:49.38Mikkwe shall see
01:49.59Gnarfozprobably all still laughable compared to the possibility of decoupling the Lua processing from the render thread
01:50.23Gnarfozoh, wait, what did you mean by "windows clients error" - they hard crash?
01:50.40Gnarfozbecause operating on NaN threw Lua errors before, did it not?
01:51.07Mikkdoing math on NaN threw lua errors before, but you could CREATE a NaN by doing 0/0
01:51.11Mikkor math.log(-1)
01:51.15Mikkor various other invalid maths
01:51.32Mikkand yeah the clients hardcrash now with /0
01:51.51Mikkapparently THAT much was not intended but eh
01:52.05Mikki needed to do something about aceserializer because it's not even loading on ptr now
01:52.06Gnarfozoh, hehe
01:52.12GnarfozI see
01:52.43Mikk(and it's quite possible that aceserializer has never ever been used to decode/encode a NaN, ever.. it was added for completeness)
01:52.56GnarfozI see "Hey, try /dump 0/0 - awesome trick" spam in our future
01:53.17Mikkhow is that different from "Hey, try /run while(1) do end"
01:54.14GnarfozDifferent ending
01:56.36Mikkinfinite loop is more annoying for people that dont remember alt+f4!
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01:58.52asmodaiheh
02:04.54Gnarfozor mac users
02:09.11mckenziemc"Mikk: this is lua v5.2" ??
02:09.24Mikkyes
02:09.34mckenziemcis blizzard switching and _VERSION is just not updated?
02:09.42Mikkis it not?
02:09.50Mikkyou looking @ ptr?
02:09.51mckenziemcsays 5.1
02:09.54Mikkblink
02:09.54mckenziemcon ptr
02:10.04Mikkthen wtf
02:10.21Mikkwho was smoking and saying wow4.3 = lua5.2 ?
02:10.21Arrowmasterafaik this had nothing at all do with with 5.2
02:10.28Arrowmasteryou
02:10.35Mikkno i got it from someone else :P
02:10.56Mikkokay then forget everything i said about "NaN trick" (though then it becomes fucked up as hell why it's working on mac and not windows)
02:11.19Mikkmckenziemc: you on a mac?
02:11.31mckenziemcwindows 7 x64
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02:35.57asmodaio_O
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02:54.41Repo10masscod: 03Tharai * r2 Mass COD (3 files in 1 directory): Inital commit
02:54.52bluspacecowoh ok repo
02:55.03asmodaiNooo, no COD
03:03.46Repo10masscod: 03Tharai * r3 / (3 files in 2 directories): Fix directory structure
03:05.01pompy@describe masscod
03:05.02Repopompy: http://www.wowace.com/addons/masscod/. Mass Cod. Easily send many items via cod.
03:14.55Gnarfozcan anyone, in few words, explain, what a tail call is?
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03:17.03pompy~wikipedia tailcall
03:17.19pompylil more than a few words
03:19.16Gnarfozso it's using a procedure that returns something right before the end of another procedure (that returns THAT return value)?
03:21.13pompyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tailcall#Syntactic_form
03:23.00Mikkfunction blah(asdf) print("hi")  return someOtherFunc(asdf) end
03:23.02Mikkthat's a tailcall
03:23.25Mikkthe benefit is that everything in the current function can be unloaded
03:23.32Mikkand the return from someOtherFunc doesnt need to be stored somewhere
03:23.40Mikkit's immediately passed to the guy that called blah()
03:24.21GnarfozI see
03:24.23Gnarfozty
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03:55.05GnarfozMikk: https://github.com/Gnarfoz/CustomStuff/commit/7e810db0c5a5a160adeeefe0093b514852ade29f like this? ^^
03:57.20MikkGnarfoz: yep
03:57.58Mikk(i also like OnUpdates because they neatly get around the problem of "was this addon loaded at the start? or later via lod?"
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04:04.20asmodaiAnyone else looking forward to Dark Souls?
04:05.24GnarfozI have one already
04:08.51Repo10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.4.1-6-gaaf18c1 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits]
04:08.52Repoaaf18c1: Removed some old debug code
04:08.53Repo8887bc7: Removed a lonely comma and replaced it with a period.
04:08.54Repo70c3738: Fixed color by reaction type on empty bar
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04:12.43asmodaiGnarfoz: true
04:16.36Repo10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.4.1-7-g5991bd0 modules/units.lua: [+1 commit] Some more old code removed
04:26.15Repo10recount: 03Elsia * r1175 GUI_Detail.lua: - Repackage with 4.3 fixed AceSerializer-3.0 (RIP NaN)
04:26.16Repo- Fixed one case of division by zero in focus detail display. There may be more instances of divisions that need checks for zero divisors now.
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04:51.17Repo10xperl: 03mysticalos * r582 XPerl_RaidMonitor/XPerl_RaidMonitor.lua: fix error from last commit
05:15.32TorhalAye, Mikk: /dump _VERSION on PTR produces _VERSION="Lua 5.1"
05:15.54TorhalI'd be shocked if they were using 5.2 considering it's still in beta
05:15.54bluspacecow*fruffs torhal's hair*
05:16.10Torhalo.O
05:18.08bluspacecowmeeeow
05:18.14bluspacecow*bat* *bat*
05:19.30mckenziemcnotes regressions in bluspacecow
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05:21.50asmodaiKhan Academy rockd
05:21.52asmodairocks
05:21.59asmodaitorhallie!
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05:30.56Repo10professionsvault: 03oscarucb * r271 ProfessionsVault.lua: add 4.3 PTR bits
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05:31.23asmodaislaps quiescens with Fisker
05:31.24Kethodoes anyone know around what time would Lua 5.2 be released?
05:31.29quiescensdies.
05:31.42asmodaiKetho: isn't it released already?
05:32.00asmodaiBecause I remember reading a changelog
05:32.08Kethothe final version?
05:32.17asmodaiah, mustve been beta then
05:33.03Kethoslaps quiescens again with Fisker
05:33.08quiescensdies.
05:35.26asmodailol
05:35.39asmodaidied again?
05:35.48asmodaibloody self-res
05:36.18mckenziemcslaps asmodai with quiescens
05:37.24asmodaiouchies
05:37.28quiescensdies.
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06:19.42starloncasts Immortality on quiescens.
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06:26.01Repo10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.4.1-8-g53f721b modules/auras.lua: [+1 commit] Added the ability to right click cancel your own auras while out of combat back, since Blizzard loosened their restrictions
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06:33.51mitch0shadowed: ping
06:34.28mitch0I'd like to have the focus/target hightlight separated (so that I can have highlight only for current target)
06:39.45Repo10collectinator: 03pompachomp 07master * 1.0.13-13-gac56439 Docs/Main.txt: [+1 commit] some main page cleanup
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07:51.54asmodaislaps random people
07:52.45nevcairielwhat would you do that for
07:53.00asmodaijust cause I can here, from half way around the world
07:53.11asmodaigot your beta yet nevje?
07:54.37nevcairielnah, i never get chosen by random luck
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08:00.08starlongives asmodai a kitten and a lazer pointer.
08:02.42asmodainevcairiel: :(
08:02.44asmodaistolenlegacy: wooohoo
08:07.11starlonasmodai: You must have underestimated the gift's potential. Start pointing it randomly at people. Far more lulz than merely slapping people.
08:07.31asmodaiI was actually enthusiastic about the kitten.
08:07.35asmodai<-- cat lubber
08:07.40starlon:D
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08:59.19stolenlegacyhuh asmodai
08:59.20stolenlegacywhat
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09:23.19asmodaistolenlegacy: wait, what?
09:23.28stolenlegacy<asmodai> stolenlegacy: wooohoo
09:23.46asmodaiyes
09:23.56asmodaimeant starlon
09:24.04asmodaitab completion and such
09:24.46SunTsuthere's a channel where everybody replying to me miscompletes to sungami - that guy really must hate me by now
09:24.54asmodaihaha
09:25.26quiescenso.o
09:25.43quiescensmy tabcomplete works smrtly
09:25.57quiescensit autocompletes to the most recently active matching person
09:29.52asmodaiWith your o.o all the time it ought to rank you high each time :P
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12:13.25quiescens):
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14:24.58Repo10atlasloot_tt (experimental): 03Hegarol * r10 / (2 files in 2 directories): Version number
14:32.42Yoshimo@describe atlasloot_tt
14:32.43RepoYoshimo: http://www.wowace.com/addons/atlasloot_tt/. AtlasLoot_Tooltip. Shows the source of an item as a tooltip
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15:04.03Repo10grid: 03Phanx * r1444 GridFrame.lua: - Reverse the center icon cooldown model
15:08.11RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/atlasloot_tt/. AtlasLoot_Tooltip. Hegarol (Manager/Author), Lag123 (Author). Approved by Ackis.
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16:01.15Repo10chinchilla: 03ethancentaurai 07master * 2.4.2-1-g73f7e30 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Fix an error caused by Blizzard changing stuff in Patch 4.3. Should also work for Patch 4.2.
16:06.57RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/roguerotationhelper/. RogueRotationHelper. theochao (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal.
16:09.37RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/masscod/. Mass Cod. Tharai (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal.
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18:29.37Repo10libauctionscan (experimental): 03sapu94 * r16 LibAuctionScan.lua: update
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20:54.18Repo10libdialog-1-0: 03Torhal * r45 LibDialog-1.0.lua: Added support for dialog durations.
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21:11.20Torhal|work@help
21:11.21RepoTorhal|work: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
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21:14.43pompy@help list
21:14.43Repopompy: (list [--private] [<plugin>]) -- Lists the commands available in the given plugin. If no plugin is given, lists the public plugins available. If --private is given, lists the private plugins.
21:15.05pompyTorhal|work: ^ ?
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21:23.38Repo10libdialog-1-0: 03Torhal * r46 .hgtags: Added tag r46-release for changeset 31887cda4fea
21:29.46mckenziemc@help Torhal|work not be a noob
21:29.46Repomckenziemc: Error: There is no command "torhal|work not be a noob".
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