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02:36.57Repo10big-wigs: 03ananhaid * r8681 Firelands/Locales (2 files in 1 directory): Bigwigs:
02:36.58Repo- zhCN/zhTW update.
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05:31.17digmouseany major API change in 4.3?
05:34.05Repo10retardcheck: 03oscarucb * r51 RetardCheck.lua: fix bad stat detection
05:34.06Repoadd detection for bad named enchants
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05:49.43starlonwhen's 4.3 coming out?
05:50.00mckenziemcsoon
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05:53.34SunTsuI hope it is, then I can keep my old armor around instead of destroying it like I used to do
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05:56.27Repo10direction-arrow: 03Barfolomeu * r49 / (3 files in 1 directory):
05:56.28RepoFixed debug output being generated when debug wasn't enabled.
05:56.41Repo10direction-arrow: 03Barfolomeu 04v0.0.18-beta * r50 : Tagging as v0.0.18-beta
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06:26.44MysticalOS5 min in 4.3 and i'm already highly annoyed, for years i've hit / to invoke slash commands. now you HAVE to hit enter before hitting /, ugg
06:28.17starlon>.<
06:28.21starlonthat's BS
06:28.32starlonaddon likely can change that
06:29.26MysticalOSi hope
06:29.54MysticalOSlooks like ace serializer is broken, so it's causing a shit storm of errors for other mods
06:30.34acethebunnyare you serious? you have to hit enter before / in 4.3? that shit better change
06:31.11MysticalOStell me about it, i cannot get used to this
06:31.23acethebunnycheck your keybinds
06:32.15MysticalOSopen chat slash, /
06:32.17MysticalOShmm
06:32.21acethebunnyhmm
06:32.24acethebunnymight be a coding error
06:32.29MysticalOShopefully
06:32.30starloneven if it's a keybind, you'll still have to enter / a second time
06:32.32acethebunnycheck it with no addons on
06:32.38mckenziemc1no starlon
06:32.42mckenziemc1it enters the /
06:32.45starlonah
06:32.49starlonwell cool then :)
06:32.55mckenziemc1it's supposed to at least; if blizz broke it i assume it's a mistake
06:32.56starlonbastard Blizz
06:33.02MysticalOSprobalby
06:33.14MysticalOSalmost same error in every mod too
06:33.35MysticalOSDivision by zero
06:33.38MysticalOSthat's it
06:33.53mckenziemc1what O.o
06:34.17MysticalOSbugsack doesn't work so i had to default to less informative reporting
06:34.21MysticalOSMessage: ...\AddOns\Ace3\AceSerializer-3.0\AceSerializer-3.0.lua line 27: Division by zero
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06:36.18mitch0local serNaN = tostring(0/0)
06:36.30MysticalOSyeah
06:36.32mitch0they'll have to find a new way to generate NaN
06:36.37MysticalOSlibcran, same error line 52
06:36.43MysticalOSdivision by 0
06:36.44acethebunnywtf is NaN
06:36.47MysticalOSlocal inf = 1/0
06:36.52mitch0not a number
06:37.03MysticalOSseems mods that are using /0 are all broken
06:37.23MysticalOS<PROTECTED>
06:37.25MysticalOSfrom xperl
06:37.29MysticalOSdivision by zero error
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06:38.14mitch0gonna be a fun week for authors then ;)
06:38.36MysticalOSyay
06:39.53starlonlol
06:40.06quiescensblarg
06:40.11quiescens!
06:40.39starlonI laugh now, but I've no subscription so if StarTip's broken, then bwahahaha
06:40.44quiescensyou shouldn't have been dividing by 0 in the first place~!
06:41.15MysticalOSmost of my mods work fine, a few don't, mostly ones that use ace serializer as an embed
06:41.33MysticalOSmapster has a ton of errors but that's expected with the map api changes
06:43.02MysticalOSnow to fly ou tand see what this archaeology tracking does
06:46.12MysticalOSit draws the blob on minimap, thats all,  guess i shoulda expected as much
06:47.49MysticalOSon the plus note, they didn't change CLEU
06:47.53MysticalOSheh
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07:05.20MysticalOSooh, ALL heroics are worth 150 valor tho, if i want to queue ilvl 333 dungeons and faceroll those cause i'm tired of seeing same 2 dungeons i can do that instead :)
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07:08.56starlonoh cool
07:09.35starlonI got tired of running dungeons though. Not enough time to waste like that.
07:09.43starlonis getting old.
07:11.25MysticalOSi refuse to run dungeons, il'l run 5 mans initially but i just don't wanna farm them. if i can get my valor from raids then damn 5 mans
07:11.47starlonyep, my feelings exactly
07:13.25starlonI won't farm for gold either. So yeah, I'm kinda done with MMOs I think, except for addons.
07:13.48MysticalOSugg all these people on corrupted firehawks on ptr make me jealous, my GM doesn't like to do meta cause it means skipping heroic modes for the week, we still don't even have T11 meta, when we hit 13/13 priority had to be farm sinestra for shards of woe, now firelands is over and it's farm firelands for someone else. qq
07:14.03starlonIt was easy when mats weren't connected with farming dungeons.
07:14.13starlonI had a blacksmithing business going in LK
07:14.20MysticalOSyeah
07:14.36MysticalOSeveryone asks me "can you craft" "no"
07:14.41starlonyep
07:14.46MysticalOSi have every firelands pattern, but orbs?
07:14.54starlonlol
07:15.20MysticalOSyou want an orb petition blizz to pull head from butt cause i'm not running 5mans to craft your item
07:15.33starlonnods.
07:15.51starlonBlizzard has no tolerance for laziness it seems.
07:16.12starlonOh but they did make mounts easier to get, and leveling is a bit easier.
07:16.13MysticalOSwell maybe if the gear was like 1 orb, but 5?
07:16.30MysticalOSthat's a MIN of 5 dungeons if i can convince 4 guildies to come with so pugs don't take orbs
07:16.31starlonStill I won't run dungeons.
07:16.38MysticalOSmore then likely, it's more like 20 dungeons
07:16.44MysticalOSlosing orbs to pugs
07:16.49MysticalOSfor a single craft
07:16.53starlonYeah
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11:16.15Repo10halonatools: 03Broliant * r41 / (11 files in 3 directories):  (Message trimmed by 7 lines)
11:16.16RepoHalonaTools:
11:16.17Repo2011-09-28 ("Why So Serious:2.07")
11:16.18Repo- Improved menu layout and spacing for ease of use.
11:16.19Repo- Improved text label options, added minimised display option.
11:17.48Repo10halonatools: 03Broliant 04Release-2.07 * r42 : HalonaTools: Tagging as release of version 2.07.
11:19.48sbu@describe halonatools
11:19.49Reposbu: http://www.wowace.com/addons/halonatools/. HalonaTools. A collection of useful (guild management) tools and utilities for smarter than average bears.
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15:21.20Repo10atlasloot_tt (experimental): 03Lag123 * r6 / (2 files in 2 directories): - save upload (start with options)
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17:28.26Slaymanis there an easy way to tell weakauras to use the trigger ability's texture? like "use own texture" in Power Auras?
17:33.26Repo10retardcheck: 03mikk * r54 sound (9 files in 1 directory):
17:33.27RepoTurn Ermey samples into mono, lower sample rate - slashes size in a fifth. Cut out 60Hz hum.
17:33.46MikkSlayman: yes totally
17:34.03SlaymanMikk: care to elaborate?
17:34.15Mikkthere's an [x] Auto icon checkbox
17:34.27quiescensa wizard did it
17:35.22pompy:O
17:35.31SlaymanMikk: I must be blind or stupid I cannot find one :(
17:35.43Mikkdon't have wow running. moment.
17:39.33Satisfymecould some one be interested in looking into this matter: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=19708
17:40.50nevcairielwhenever the config is shown, it'll query your function again, and get a new list
17:41.14nevcairielIt'll also refresh when you use some control on the config
17:41.23nevcairielusually, it just works. :p
17:42.20Satisfymeyesh I know but this dose not update on show, only updates when I click the first one
17:43.50Repo10halonatools: 03Broliant * r43 / (4 files in 3 directories): HalonaTools:
17:44.04Repo2011-09-28 ("Why So Serious:2.08")
17:44.05Repo- Fixed an auto-conversion call.
17:44.16quiescenso.o
17:44.35Repo10halonatools: 03Broliant 04Release-2.08 * r44 : HalonaTools: Tagging as release of version 2.08.
17:45.16Repo10retardcheck: 03mikk * r55 sound (5 files in 1 directory): Mono-ize, denoise, reduce samplerate for Faelagund mp3 set.
17:45.42nevcairielbut, but, stereo!
17:45.54Mikkyeah you really need stereo for vent recordings =)
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17:50.06Repo10retardcheck: 03mikk * r56 sound (4 files in 1 directory):
17:50.07RepoMono-ize & reduce samplerate for Carrey, Onyxia and Sinnerman mp3s.
17:50.23Mikk1.7 mb -> 0.7mb so far
17:50.25Mikkhumtedum
17:52.40pompypro
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17:57.47SatisfymeNevcairiel somehow it's working now..... not sure what I did thou :S
17:59.25AckisSatisfyme: gnomes
17:59.48Satisfymeyeah :) might be :P
18:00.03Repo10retardcheck: 03mikk * r57 sound (3 files in 1 directory):
18:00.04RepoAaand finally mono-ize, denoise, reduce sample rate, and undo the insane bass boost in the Letomi mp3 set (funnily it's easier to hear the lyrics now).
18:00.24Mikkrawr 461kb
18:00.28Mikki know mah shietz
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18:13.14Repo10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.4.0-8-gd124d91 modules (4 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Fix possible cases of divide by zeroes to not occur anymore due to PTR changes
18:15.51Repo10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.4.0-9-ga5b933b ShadowedUnitFrames.lua: [+1 commit] Don't hide raid frames if zoning in combat
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18:29.45SlaymanMikk: automatic Icon is only on the Icon Type in weakauras not in the texture type
18:29.52Mikkoups
18:29.59Mikkwell that makes sense
18:30.02Mikkicon is icon
18:30.04Mikktexture is something else
18:31.29Repo10collectinator: 03pompachomp 07master * 1.0.13-11-gd804ffd Database (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
18:31.30Repod804ffd: Merge remote branch 'origin/master'
18:31.31Repo7820e7e: Updated the "Gold Mini Jouster" and "Blue Mini Jouster" pet entries
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20:00.14StijnHHello, I have a question about external libs. Last time I used them was when the WowAce updater still existed. I noticed Curse Client has an option for it, but it doesn't recommend it. Why is this? Is there still a significant positive impact on load time when using external libraries?
20:01.19Repo10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.4.0-10-g6643704 ShadowedUnitFrames.lua: [+1 commit] Unregister... all the events
20:05.12Gnarfozthis commit needs a meme picture
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20:11.03AckisStijnH: it just adds extra complication to end users if its enabled, I run with no-libs and have few issues but they do crop up now and then, and load times aren't that drastically changed
20:12.19StijnHAckis: thank you.
20:13.42MysticalOSah there we go workaround for stupid divide by 0 stuff
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20:15.50MysticalOSthis fixes ace serializer local serNaN = tostring(math.log(-1)) local serInf = tostring(math.huge) local serNegInf = tostring(-math.huge)
20:17.49StanzillaMysticalOS: did you create a ticket for that btw?
20:18.15MysticalOSeh, not yet, it's hard to say if blizz put their head in ass and did this on purpose or it's a bug in current build
20:21.21MysticalOSi created a discussion at http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3279039146 and someone else created one in bug reports just in case.
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20:33.01TorhalMysticalOS: Probably an issue of "You can divide by ZERO in Lua? What the FUCK?!? Fix that shit, we already forked it anyway..."
20:33.54TorhalThe REALLY annoying thing to me is the whole "must hit enter before pressing /" issue.
20:34.15TorhalI type "/rl" and windows start appearing
20:34.17TorhalBah
20:35.43MysticalOSapparently the / thing is a mac bug only tho
20:35.50MysticalOSso i've been reading
20:36.25arkanesTorhal: that one keeps getting me too
20:36.26MysticalOSit looks like the divide by zero fix using math.huge works in some mods depending how they use it, others crash wow outright, they freeze the UI hard
20:36.41MysticalOSit's possible they changed the UI compiler?
20:37.51MysticalOSlibtourist will crash the UI regardless no matter what i try to do :(
20:38.09Repo10arl: 03pompachomp 07master * 2.2.9-9-gc811aed / (4 files in 4 directories): [+1 commit] Added two new vendors/trainers: Mrs. Gant and "Chef" Overheat .. Thought I had done it but guess not, correct Undermine Clam Chowder acquire because it was brought out of retirement
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21:18.51Mikkhttp://chimera.pish.biz/index.php?mod=news&news_act=view_comments&p=528
21:18.52Hell-Razoranybody know if theres an addon that will seperate hotkeys by character? like the blizzard one does it globally
21:19.40Mikkwhat hotkeys?
21:19.51Repo10xperl: 03mysticalos * r570 XPerl.lua:
21:19.52RepoUse math.huge and math.log instead of /0 so xperl is functional on 4.3 PTR. also works on live.
21:20.27Hell-RazorMikk, like binding 1,2,3,4,5,6 etc for one char but have them be different for another
21:20.53Mikkwhat does [x] Character-specific key bindings NOT do for you?
21:20.57Mikki'm missing something =)
21:21.06Hell-Razorhrmm
21:21.16Hell-Razordid i miss a character specific key binding thing?
21:21.20Mikkyes
21:21.25Mikkit's in the key bindings menu topright
21:22.11Hell-Razorholy fuck
21:22.13Hell-Razori never noticed that
21:22.22Ackisderp
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21:22.41Mikkwell it took me 3 years before i learned that you could eat & drink at the same time
21:22.51Mikkmaybe 2
21:23.02Hell-Razorlol
21:23.32Mikkwhich is doubly duh because i was playing a warlock at the time
21:23.42Mikklifetap+eatdrink = double manarestore speed
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22:11.17Repo10deus-vox-encounters: 03Harleschorsch 07master * v631 / (3 files in 3 directories): [+3 commits]
22:11.18Repo839a853: Bump version number
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22:44.55StijnHGood evening. I'd like to use LibSharedMedia. Is it enough to reference lib.xml or do I also need to reference CallbackHandler (which is in LSM's toc) ?
22:46.49durcynStijnH: always pull in library dependencies
22:48.16StijnHI'm not necessarily using a WoWAce repo.
22:48.51durcyndoesn't matter. hard embed it if you feel like being goofy, but include the dependencies.
22:49.41StijnHWell, I'm using Mercurial. Could you guide me to achieve such behaviour?
22:49.57StijnHAs I understand it, .pkgmeta is a WoWAce feature.
22:53.57durcynsubrepos if you must, but .pkgmeta is only used by the wowace packager anyway
22:54.27StijnHdurcyn: thank you, I'll give it a go.
22:59.07Repo10halonatools: 03Broliant * r45 / (4 files in 2 directories): HalonaTools:
22:59.08Repo2011-09-29 ("Why So Serious:2.09")
22:59.09Repo- Corrected feature "Auto Set Master Loot".
22:59.40Repo10halonatools: 03Broliant 04Release-2.09 * r46 : HalonaTools: Tagging as release of version 2.09.
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