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| 00:08.19 | Repo | 10retardcheck: 03oscarucb * r16 RetardCheck.lua: rename gift |
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| 00:12.18 | Groktar | boils mckenziemc and feeds him to quiescens |
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| 00:19.14 | cubed | Does anyone know a good way to do event based pull or wipe detection? |
| 00:19.35 | cubed | like, for a raid boss |
| 00:23.06 | Repo | 10retardcheck: 03oscarucb * r17 RetardCheck.lua: add pally auras |
| 00:27.04 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r8644 Firelands/Ragnaros.lua: |
| 00:27.06 | Repo | Firelands/Ragnaros: change the sons counter to a local message so we can get away with using a singular/plural escape code and not error for the crazy people still using RaidWarn broadcasting in this day. |
| 00:27.25 | Wobin | cubed: Event_Everyone_Is_Dead |
| 00:27.37 | mckenziemc | kills Wobin |
| 00:27.58 | Wobin | explodes, killling everyone in the room |
| 00:28.34 | Groktar | boils the wobinbits into a stew |
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| 00:29.50 | cubed | lol |
| 00:29.53 | cubed | but for real |
| 00:31.21 | cubed | PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED fails for battle rez I think |
| 00:33.39 | cubed | and INSTANCE_ENCOUNTER_ENGAGE_UNIT fires multiple times this encounter |
| 00:34.29 | Repo | 10retardcheck: 03oscarucb 041.0 beta 2 * r18 : Tagging as 1.0 beta 2 |
| 00:34.56 | Funkeh` | cubed, http://www.wowace.com/addons/brez/ |
| 00:35.06 | Funkeh` | I have engage/wipe detection running in it |
| 00:35.10 | cubed | I will take a look |
| 00:35.10 | cubed | thanks |
| 00:36.10 | Funkeh` | I use almost the exact same code in bigwigs too. But it's only useful for cataclysm encounters |
| 00:36.28 | cubed | which this is |
| 00:36.48 | Funkeh` | Just sayin' |
| 00:37.18 | cubed | ooo I like this |
| 00:37.20 | cubed | ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA |
| 00:37.32 | cubed | I am goign to implement that, : |
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| 01:02.51 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 01:34.55 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp 07master * 2.2.8-85-g35741d1 Database (3 files in 3 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 01:34.56 | Repo | 35741d1: Updated the coordinates for the Vendor, Nyoma |
| 01:34.57 | Repo | d8f8b0a: Datamined the Cooking trainer, Zarrin, which added his ID to the recipes he was missing from and also updated his coordinates so the waypoint is accurate |
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| 02:24.15 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/wheres-he-gone-now/. Where's He Gone Now?. ThePants999 (Manager/Author). Approved by myrroddin. |
| 02:24.21 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/broker_healercd/. Broker_HealerCD. Morgalm (Manager/Author). Approved by myrroddin. |
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| 03:17.32 | cubed | Funkeh, you there? |
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| 03:43.26 | cubed | t.t |
| 03:43.44 | quiescens | o.o |
| 03:43.52 | cubed | o.0 |
| 03:44.42 | cubed | Funkeh` left me :( |
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| 03:45.46 | quiescens | /pat |
| 03:48.12 | pompy1 | cubed: its like 5am where he is, hes prolly sleeping! |
| 03:48.31 | cubed | :( |
| 03:49.08 | cubed | anyone else care to take a look, working on this wipe/pull detection - he linked his brez addon, but I think there might be a bug |
| 03:49.35 | mckenziemc1 | go to sleep quiescens |
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| 04:17.39 | Groktar | threatens to boil quiescens |
| 04:24.07 | mckenziemc1 | stares at Groktar and threatens to acquiesce |
| 04:32.32 | Groktar | tosses mckenziemc1 into the pot along with the quiescens |
| 04:33.12 | mckenziemc1 | acquiesces |
| 04:37.47 | mckenziemc1 | (killing Torhal in the process) |
| 04:40.53 | Torhal | purges mckenziemc1 with fire. |
| 04:55.01 | cubed | quick hypothetical: if I am storing config variables in a SavedVariable, I can load them into local variables or possibly put them in my addon's table - since none of them need to be externally visible, it seems like local variables would be more efficient (avoid the table lookup), but does it really matter at all in terms of performance? |
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| 04:56.25 | haste | depends on how often you are checking config variables, but most likely not |
| 04:56.41 | cubed | a couple are every frame, would it be worth it for those? |
| 04:56.54 | cubed | probably |
| 04:56.56 | cubed | ? |
| 04:57.39 | cubed | well, not EVERY frame, but every frame in a 10 second window every minute during an encounter |
| 05:00.59 | mckenziemc1 | keep in mind that if you use locals for the individual settings, the saved-variable table will not stay in sync |
| 05:01.31 | cubed | so long as you update both simultaneously it's fine |
| 05:01.31 | haste | is it worth adding the extra complexity? is it really an issue? can it be an issue? |
| 05:01.45 | quiescens | dies. |
| 05:02.08 | mckenziemc1 | except that updating both simultaneously can be counterproductive, depending on frequency |
| 05:02.17 | cubed | Well I mean, I just change a variable declaration from frame.variable to local variable, and references to variable rather than frame.variable |
| 05:02.35 | cubed | updates only occur via slash commands, i.e., infrequently |
| 05:03.24 | cubed | I have no idea if it can be an issue though, or if there is some "best practice" I should follow |
| 05:03.37 | haste | the best practice is readable code |
| 05:03.40 | mckenziemc1 | ^ |
| 05:03.56 | cubed | no difference in this case |
| 05:04.09 | mckenziemc1 | unless there's a detectable performance hit, it's better to avoid complicating the code |
| 05:04.12 | cubed | p.s., I love oUF, :) |
| 05:04.33 | mckenziemc1 | you have added complexity if you're updating both the locals and the saved variable on those slash commands |
| 05:05.00 | cubed | like I said, there is no difference in terms of LoC or anything else, just changes from "if frame.variable then" to "if variable then" |
| 05:05.03 | mckenziemc1 | that may also come back to bite you if you decide to add more configuration settings |
| 05:05.22 | mckenziemc1 | LoC = ? |
| 05:05.27 | mckenziemc1 | oh |
| 05:05.27 | cubed | lines of code |
| 05:06.30 | cubed | I am already storing them in values in the addon's table on addon load, I guess I wanted to avoid the table look up from the SavedVariable, and didn't realize I was just replacing it with another, lol |
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| 05:15.39 | Repo | -fix dev toggle |
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| 05:46.05 | cubed | anyone know a good time to catch Funkeh`? |
| 05:48.52 | haste | around CEST |
| 05:55.28 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 12:36.51 | Repo | mitch0: http://www.wowace.com/addons/retardcheck/. RetardCheck. Game: WoW. oscarucb (Manager/Author). Updated: 2 hours ago |
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| 14:02.27 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 15:29.30 | Repo | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
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| 16:08.24 | quiescens | brr |
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| 16:13.54 | asmodai | quiescens: cold? |
| 16:14.37 | Megalon | or he died in battle |
| 16:15.04 | asmodai | As a brave warrior or? |
| 16:16.14 | Megalon | or a dumb wizard |
| 16:16.19 | Megalon | tell us quiescens |
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| 16:28.10 | Torhal|work | Megalon: A wizard did it! |
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| 16:39.13 | asmodai | Torhal|work: kill quiescens ? |
| 16:39.28 | Torhal|work | asmodai: Nah, anyone could have done that. |
| 16:39.34 | asmodai | lol |
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| 16:40.06 | Megalon | but they aren't allowed to use magic outside of hogwarts Torhal|work |
| 16:40.26 | Torhal|work | Don't make me stab you in the face. |
| 16:42.05 | asmodai | lol |
| 16:47.24 | quiescens | o.o |
| 16:47.37 | quiescens | stabbing people is bad |
| 16:50.05 | Megalon | with your ballista Torhal|work? |
| 16:52.13 | asmodai | His USB-powered ballista |
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| 17:00.27 | Megalon | there's nothing against it in the rules |
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| 17:21.09 | koaschten | Blizzard asking for class feedback on the class forums. |
| 17:21.17 | koaschten | spam in the blue tracker \o/ |
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| 17:36.32 | asmodai | koaschten: lol |
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| 17:56.46 | asmodai | dumb me, here I was thinking, oh this D3 tester knows someone at blizzard. |
| 17:56.51 | asmodai | forgot it was F&F |
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| 18:49.32 | asmodai | Anyone in here know the difference between the msvcp*.dll and msvcr*.dll? |
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| 18:51.00 | arkanes | you need em both |
| 18:53.21 | arkanes | VCR has most of the mechanics of the runtime, the C runtime, the C stdlib, and a bunch of C++ stdlib stuff, VCP has the rest of it |
| 18:54.30 | asmodai | So they're complementary? The documentation I could find on it didn't say much except hint that the r one might be re-entrant. |
| 18:54.47 | arkanes | they're complementary, yeah |
| 18:54.51 | arkanes | not different versions of the same thing |
| 18:55.23 | asmodai | Cool, because I did not find this clear: |
| 18:55.34 | asmodai | msvcr90.dll - Multithreaded, dynamic link (import library for MSVCR90.DLL). Be aware that if you use the Standard C++ Library, your program will need MSVCP90.DLL to run. |
| 18:56.09 | arkanes | right you'd need it as well |
| 18:56.11 | asmodai | Especially if, like you say, the stdlib is actually spread over both. |
| 18:56.27 | arkanes | it shouldn't really be a big deal, since any normal way of getting them will always give you both of them |
| 18:56.57 | arkanes | it only matters if you're packing your own depdendencies instead of using the redist package and want to chop out VCP for whatever reason |
| 18:57.23 | asmodai | Clear. |
| 18:57.47 | asmodai | Thanks for that, haven't messed around much with that side of Windows programming yet. |
| 18:59.22 | nevcairiel | You should either ship the full redist installer (or through a .msi dealy), or do static linking. Screw shipping the dll in your application directory |
| 19:00.48 | asmodai | Oh, wasn't planning on doing that. redist gtw |
| 19:00.49 | asmodai | ftw |
| 19:01.24 | asmodai | Was just digging through dependencies with dependency walker |
| 19:01.45 | asmodai | and noticed these two and couldn't find any conclusive documentation that explained just what the difference of these was. |
| 19:02.07 | nevcairiel | I think visual studio really needs a mode like, "build against the default runtime which is present on every goddam system" |
| 19:02.21 | asmodai | lol |
| 19:02.23 | haste | does not exist! |
| 19:02.33 | nevcairiel | but no, you upgrade VS, and you need to ship a new runtime |
| 19:03.10 | nevcairiel | granted, i actually started using stuff from the latest runtimes |
| 19:03.16 | nevcairiel | there is some neat features in TR1 |
| 19:03.22 | asmodai | Well, looking at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/abx4dbyh%28v=VS.100%29.aspx over http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/abx4dbyh%28v=VS.90%29.aspx it seems they're cutting many crt dlls |
| 19:03.51 | asmodai | They do try to cut down on DLL hell it seems... XD |
| 19:04.28 | nevcairiel | mixed managed/native is some weird stuff anyhow |
| 19:04.34 | nevcairiel | might have technical reasons for the change |
| 19:06.16 | asmodai | Well, I'm late to the party on all this. So trying to pick up stuff left 'n right. |
| 19:07.02 | Megalon | you sound like one of the london rioters |
| 19:07.13 | nevcairiel | they dont pick stuff up |
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| 19:08.30 | asmodai | Heh |
| 19:09.22 | asmodai | The description might be apt though |
| 19:09.33 | asmodai | I might be breaking windows to get to the nitty gritty details |
| 19:09.36 | asmodai | :3 |
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| 19:15.54 | nevcairiel | oi, noise incoming |
| 19:18.53 | asmodai | Noise? |
| 19:19.15 | mckenziemc | kxuepyfuied |
| 19:22.16 | Megalon | yea, something like that |
| 19:24.12 | asmodai | Most sensible thing you said all day. |
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| 19:24.52 | nevcairiel | the noise! |
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| 19:25.15 | Megalon | it's like real noise |
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| 19:25.18 | Megalon | just without the sound |
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| 19:26.16 | asmodai | Oh, that noise |
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| 20:33.00 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/test-hg/. TestHG. Torhal (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
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| 20:39.07 | sbu | @describe retardcheck |
| 20:39.08 | Repo | sbu: http://www.wowace.com/addons/retardcheck/. RetardCheck. Checks your gear before bosses and yells at you if you're a retard |
| 20:44.26 | Megalon | you passed it sbu |
| 20:50.11 | sbu | ok! |
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| 20:57.20 | Repo | 10retardcheck: 03oscarucb * r22 RetardCheck.lua: dont autocheck in bgs |
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