| 00:20.36 | Repo | 10libbnaddonmsg-1-0 (experimental): 03stolenlegacy * r6 LibBNAddonMsg-1.0.lua: |
| 00:20.37 | Repo | Fixed an issue that would sometimes prevent sending of messages if the message contained the tab character (\t). |
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| 00:57.03 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 01:22.05 | Groktar | i accidently shutdown -s -f a remote server instead of shutdown -r -f |
| 01:22.06 | Groktar | :( |
| 01:25.17 | quiescens | ): |
| 01:25.19 | quiescens | /pat Groktar |
| 01:25.41 | quiescens | there's a -s? |
| 01:28.43 | bluspacecow | @groktar what did it do instead ? |
| 01:29.14 | mckenziemc | shut down instead of restarting i think |
| 01:30.18 | mckenziemc | Mars ruined my favorite candy bar :( |
| 01:30.34 | quiescens | shutdown is the default o.o |
| 01:30.36 | mckenziemc | they started putting more chocolate in the nougat and now i don't like it D: |
| 01:30.44 | quiescens | when you run the shutdown command |
| 01:30.45 | mckenziemc | quiescens: not with -r |
| 01:30.45 | quiescens | usually |
| 01:31.17 | quiescens | shutdown -s should complain about invalid options |
| 01:31.26 | quiescens | unless groktar sekretly has a shutdown with a -s |
| 01:31.38 | mckenziemc | ssh quiescens |
| 01:31.46 | mckenziemc | sudo shutdown -f +now |
| 01:32.13 | quiescens | yay, no fsck |
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| 01:33.22 | Groktar | windows version |
| 01:33.25 | Groktar | :p |
| 01:33.32 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 01:33.52 | Groktar | next time i drive to the colo i may turn wake on lan on |
| 01:33.54 | Groktar | since i have an sheet with all the mac addresses |
| 01:33.58 | mckenziemc | colo? |
| 01:34.03 | mckenziemc | colony? |
| 01:34.35 | Groktar | colocation |
| 01:35.06 | quiescens | or you could try to not turn off your systems |
| 01:35.20 | Groktar | hehe |
| 01:35.26 | Groktar | i was trying to rearm windows |
| 01:35.44 | Groktar | my boss is being really slow with the buying of licenses |
| 01:36.11 | mckenziemc | http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/shutdown.mspx |
| 01:36.32 | Groktar | yep |
| 01:36.38 | mckenziemc | @quiescens |
| 01:38.40 | Groktar | i should also mention that i accidently iptables -P INPUT DROP |
| 01:38.40 | Groktar | followed by iptables -F INPUT |
| 01:38.51 | Groktar | stupid colocation is all the way across down, too |
| 01:39.05 | Shefki | I hope you mean iptables -P INPUT -j DROP |
| 01:39.06 | quiescens | o.o |
| 01:39.25 | Groktar | i'm pretty sure i didn't need the -j |
| 01:39.28 | quiescens | editing your rules directly on the command line is bad |
| 01:39.40 | Groktar | i was experimenting |
| 01:39.52 | Shefki | Ahh yeah you're right that's the policy thing. |
| 01:40.01 | quiescens | default policy thingy |
| 01:40.04 | Groktar | yup |
| 01:40.05 | Shefki | quiescens: No it isn't. I do it all the time. |
| 01:40.22 | quiescens | it iz ): |
| 01:40.47 | Shefki | How else would you do it use some tool to write the rules for you? |
| 01:40.50 | mckenziemc | edits quiescens' rules from a command line |
| 01:40.56 | Shefki | You think the tool is going to save you from doing something stupid? |
| 01:41.03 | quiescens | edit a script or such |
| 01:41.18 | Shefki | Why would you use a script? |
| 01:41.23 | Shefki | iptables-save is your friend. |
| 01:41.51 | Shefki | Pretty much every distro has /etc/init.d/iptables save |
| 01:42.00 | Groktar | in init.d? |
| 01:42.02 | Groktar | oO |
| 01:42.14 | Shefki | Usually puts the rules in /etc/sysconfig/iptables |
| 01:42.22 | Shefki | Then the init script will restore them on reboot. |
| 01:42.30 | Shefki | No reason to roll your own script now. |
| 01:43.17 | Shefki | Now if you need to use tc, that's something you should do with a script... |
| 01:43.37 | Shefki | There's no standard way of saving and restore qdisc, classes and filters. |
| 01:43.54 | Groktar | anyway, i was pulling my hair out because stuff was completely borked after we moved the servers to the colocation |
| 01:43.57 | quiescens | its just that doing it by hand as you go on the command line lets you put things in an incomplete state easier o.o |
| 01:44.01 | Groktar | couldn't ping anything behind it |
| 01:44.05 | Groktar | no nothing |
| 01:44.06 | quiescens | like Groktar |
| 01:44.17 | quiescens | so easy to think, okay, block this then allow that |
| 01:44.35 | Groktar | eventually i realized that i was typing in the wrong ips |
| 01:44.36 | quiescens | and forget that after you block this, you won't be able to allow that |
| 01:44.43 | Groktar | well, to be fair |
| 01:44.46 | Shefki | If you don't have console access to the machine OOB from the network you're doing it wrong. |
| 01:45.17 | Groktar | i did have a text file full of commands |
| 01:45.30 | Groktar | but i was typing them in manually trying to find the problem |
| 01:45.49 | Groktar | so when i ran it as a script it was fine |
| 01:46.00 | Groktar | because it would immediately add the rules i needed |
| 01:46.00 | quiescens | oic |
| 01:46.20 | Groktar | Shefki: ideas? we're cheap |
| 01:46.20 | Groktar | :D |
| 01:46.52 | Shefki | dialup into a machine with a bunch of serial ports. :P |
| 01:47.03 | Shefki | Serial cards are cheap. |
| 01:47.29 | Groktar | hrm not sure how i'd get a phone line in there |
| 01:47.36 | Groktar | :p |
| 01:47.37 | Shefki | Colo? |
| 01:47.39 | quiescens | i was about to say |
| 01:47.42 | Groktar | ya |
| 01:47.52 | Shefki | Well you call up the phone company. :) |
| 01:47.53 | quiescens | phone lines might not be as easy to arrange as the serial cards |
| 01:48.08 | Shefki | It's not hard to get a pots line into a colo. |
| 01:48.11 | Shefki | Just gotta ask. |
| 01:48.23 | Groktar | that might be kinda sweet |
| 01:48.33 | Groktar | we could move our fax server out of our office |
| 01:49.01 | mckenziemc | just fax it over to the colocation |
| 01:49.07 | Shefki | Yeah we have about 20 lines for a fax server. |
| 01:50.20 | Shefki | Colo may charge you to put in the wire to their telco demarc box. |
| 01:50.30 | Shefki | But it isn't usually terribly expensive. |
| 01:51.33 | Groktar | would be really nice saving the bandwidth at the office |
| 01:51.45 | Groktar | we only have 3 T1s for our internets :( |
| 01:52.14 | Shefki | How many lines for fax are you using now? You might want to look into outsourcing the fax. |
| 01:52.18 | quiescens | won't you then be pulling your stuff off your (now remote) servars? |
| 01:53.20 | Groktar | quiescens: right now we have a bunch of servers at rackspace |
| 01:53.29 | Groktar | when the servers want to fax something they email it to a server in our office |
| 01:53.48 | Groktar | i don't think it's too many lines Shefki |
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| 01:53.58 | Shefki | Mostly outbound or inbound? |
| 01:54.05 | Groktar | all outbound |
| 01:54.25 | Groktar | lemme see how many faxes we had today |
| 01:54.26 | Shefki | I'd be willing to bet you could outsource it for less than the lines cost unless you're just sending a ton of faxes. |
| 01:54.51 | Shefki | Lot of places that provide an email interface for sending faxes. |
| 01:54.59 | Groktar | we have myfax.com as a backup |
| 01:56.06 | Groktar | hmm |
| 01:56.10 | Groktar | ~500 faxes today |
| 01:58.16 | Groktar | i imagine that's enough to keep one phone line pretty busy |
| 01:58.26 | Shefki | So yeah that'd be $1500 a month with myfax.com |
| 01:58.47 | Shefki | Not sure how many lines you have and your long distance costs. |
| 01:58.50 | Groktar | about what tw charges us for our t1s |
| 01:59.15 | Shefki | And that's their pricing on their website. |
| 01:59.22 | Shefki | You should be able to get a better deal with that volume. |
| 01:59.31 | Shefki | Ohh and that's assume 1 page faxes. |
| 02:00.00 | Groktar | hrm |
| 02:00.02 | Groktar | depends on the fax |
| 02:01.00 | Shefki | https://www.metrofax.com/buy-now |
| 02:01.01 | Groktar | anyway, i'm sure management has figured out the pricing |
| 02:01.09 | Groktar | otherwise we would just send everything to myfax |
| 02:01.09 | Shefki | ^ Those guys look to do it about $0.01 per page. |
| 02:01.30 | Shefki | And additional pages are $0.03 per page. |
| 02:02.26 | Groktar | hrm still looks more expensive |
| 02:02.36 | Groktar | did i mention we use our t1s for our internet, too? |
| 02:03.15 | Shefki | tw not charing you for the pots ports? |
| 02:05.04 | Groktar | i honestly don't know |
| 02:05.32 | Groktar | i thought it was just $1500 for everything |
| 02:06.25 | Shefki | Yeah it's hard to guage anything off that since you're almost certainly paying mileage on your T1's and I have no idea where you are and how far you have to go. |
| 02:07.19 | Groktar | i do know that they're talking about dropping 2 of the t1s and getting a 10mbps fiber line from comcast |
| 02:07.23 | Groktar | crosses his fingers |
| 02:07.33 | Groktar | ~4mbps between ~20 people is no fun |
| 02:07.33 | purl | Groktar: okay |
| 02:07.43 | Shefki | I'm not sure if I'd be excited about that or not. |
| 02:07.49 | Shefki | The speed sounds great. |
| 02:07.54 | Shefki | Comcast not so much. |
| 02:08.23 | Groktar | well, supposedly it's a business only fiber thing |
| 02:09.12 | Groktar | our t1s have gone out more often than my comcast this past year >< |
| 02:09.20 | Shefki | Yeah I'm just sceptical of Comcast... |
| 02:11.16 | Groktar | comcasts Shefki |
| 02:12.59 | Shefki | Am I imaginging things or did they remove the ability to select monitors in SC2 on the Mac? |
| 02:13.20 | Shefki | I remember SC2 having that and WoW not having it... Now wow has it and SC2 doesn't. *sigh* |
| 02:14.07 | Shefki | Maybe it was SC1... |
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| 02:39.10 | Repo | d416b25: When updating the player's professions, check to see if there are any invalid stored profession links and remove them. Removed an unnecessary if-check. |
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| 05:23.16 | asmodai | Heh: "Leah has received adequate weapons training and will now properly fire arrows from her bow during this scene, rather than from her feet." |
| 05:43.27 | Groktar | stifling creativity. |
| 05:54.11 | Wobin | asmodai: leah? |
| 05:54.35 | bluspacecow | d3 patch notes |
| 05:54.54 | Wobin | ah |
| 06:01.07 | asmodai | :) |
| 06:03.10 | SunTsu | asmodai: firing arrows from her feet sounds more impressive to me than doing it the usual way |
| 06:06.30 | asmodai | Heh |
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| 06:08.15 | quiescens | o.o |
| 06:08.29 | quiescens | who's leah |
| 06:09.58 | mckenziemc | your future killer |
| 06:10.09 | quiescens | ): |
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| 07:15.48 | asmodai | quiescens: Diablo 3 character, related to Deckard Cain |
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| 07:39.41 | Repo | fix a bug in click-into-chat of EM symbols |
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| 07:49.10 | Repo | 10retardcheck: 03oscarucb * r4 RetardCheck.lua: add sound handling, glyphs, imbues, targetting |
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| 07:50.56 | mckenziemc | @describe retardcheck |
| 07:50.57 | Repo | mckenziemc: http://www.wowace.com/addons/retardcheck/. RetardCheck. Checks your gear before bosses and yells at you if you're a retard |
| 07:56.00 | Groktar | kills mckenziemc and buries quiescens in his entrails |
| 08:15.22 | mckenziemc | @describe groktarcheck |
| 08:15.24 | Repo | mckenziemc: No project found that matches 'groktarcheck' |
| 08:16.27 | Groktar | sounds like a pretty amazing |
| 08:16.29 | Groktar | project |
| 08:25.52 | Repo | 10raid_checklist: 03Anyia3 044.2.1beta1 * r150 : Tagging as 4.2.1beta1 |
| 08:26.28 | Repo | 10broker-statistics: 03Shenton * r15 / (4 files in 3 directories): Typo |
| 08:26.29 | Repo | Fixed my derp with max vengeance calculation (herp) |
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| 08:27.29 | country | Anyone here? |
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| 08:28.14 | country | is this the right place for questions regarding Ace3? |
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| 09:59.19 | starlon | lol @ retardcheck |
| 10:00.42 | koaschten | :D |
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| 10:13.48 | quiescens | o.o |
| 10:14.11 | Sintacks | o.o |
| 10:15.55 | Celestial | o.o |
| 10:18.05 | Megalon | all three of you passed it |
| 10:18.13 | Megalon | you are now official retards |
| 10:18.36 | quiescens | ): |
| 10:18.39 | quiescens | that's not a nice thing to say |
| 10:19.14 | Sintacks | nou |
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| 11:02.49 | asmodai | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SOyz0I5d7w&hd=1 |
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| 11:57.29 | koaschten | d3 stream *drool* http://www.justin.tv/sparkfist |
| 12:02.38 | asmodai | koaschten: and he died :) |
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| 12:10.13 | asmodai | koaschten: wonder what those circles with flags do around the portal. Stash per person in the group/game? |
| 12:11.17 | airtonix | hey Sintacks |
| 12:11.25 | Sintacks | ? |
| 12:11.28 | airtonix | umad? |
| 12:11.34 | Sintacks | Y U HI LITE |
| 12:11.50 | airtonix | for the lulz |
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| 12:16.39 | koaschten | @describe retardcheck |
| 12:16.40 | Repo | koaschten: http://www.wowace.com/addons/retardcheck/. RetardCheck. Checks your gear before bosses and yells at you if you're a retard |
| 12:27.50 | starlon | @retardcheck |
| 12:27.59 | starlon | passed. |
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| 12:40.43 | koaschten|pad | flexes. |
| 12:40.47 | quiescens | dies. |
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| 12:45.23 | mckenziemc | O.o |
| 12:45.40 | mckenziemc | mourns quiescens' passing |
| 12:47.57 | Megalon | koaschten, pad.. pms? :c |
| 12:48.23 | mckenziemc | o.O |
| 12:48.42 | Sintacks | anyone know if a Xeon processor will work in a mobo made for i7, with the same socket? |
| 12:50.47 | vhaarr | Sintacks: yes it will |
| 12:50.55 | Sintacks | thought so |
| 12:51.15 | Sintacks | I have to come up with a PC that's cheaper than a Mac with the same shit |
| 12:51.35 | vhaarr | that's not a particularly remarkable feat, mind you |
| 12:51.37 | Sintacks | and i'm not going to be called a cheater by using a cheaper i7 and not a Xeon... cuz that Xeon is fucking expensive |
| 12:51.41 | Sintacks | I know. lol |
| 12:52.02 | Sintacks | I could build a computer just as powerful for the price of just the Xeon... |
| 12:52.38 | vhaarr | is it the most expensive one? |
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| 12:52.44 | vhaarr | which model is in the Mac? |
| 12:55.20 | vhaarr | Sintacks: as far as I can see, Mac Pro uses Nehalem/Westmere CPUs |
| 12:55.23 | Sintacks | cheapest mac pro |
| 12:55.31 | vhaarr | you should obviously get a sandy bridge one, which is a lot cheaper |
| 12:55.51 | Sintacks | 2.8GHz quad core Xeon... which is $1300 |
| 12:56.06 | vhaarr | nonsense |
| 12:56.09 | Sintacks | yeah i know |
| 12:56.13 | Sintacks | i'm just proving the point though |
| 12:56.47 | vhaarr | the E3-1220 3,10GHz is $270 here |
| 12:56.54 | Sintacks | and i'll do the i7 build that's even cheaper than the mac pro clone after i finish the mac clone |
| 12:57.43 | vhaarr | even the most expensive Xeon is $1155 |
| 12:57.51 | Sintacks | o.O |
| 12:57.53 | koaschten|pad | teases vhaar. |
| 12:57.54 | Sintacks | from where? |
| 12:58.07 | vhaarr | Sintacks: you are looking at the old models, I think |
| 12:58.12 | vhaarr | Sintacks: you need to look at socket 1155 |
| 12:58.12 | Sintacks | prob |
| 12:58.13 | Sintacks | http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2452062263787&id=1318924720¬if_t=feed_comment_reply |
| 12:58.15 | Sintacks | er |
| 12:58.20 | Sintacks | that's not the right link |
| 12:58.21 | vhaarr | koaschten|pad: :( |
| 12:58.28 | Sintacks | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117181 |
| 12:58.35 | Sintacks | same processor as is in the Mac Pro |
| 12:58.42 | vhaarr | Sintacks: yeah forget that, that's old |
| 12:58.47 | Sintacks | yeah i know. lol |
| 12:58.53 | Sintacks | but i'm cloning the mac pro... |
| 12:58.54 | vhaarr | macs use the previous generation CPUs, which cost a lot more for some reason |
| 12:58.59 | vhaarr | why the hell would you do that |
| 12:59.02 | Sintacks | then i'm building what a sane person would actually build |
| 12:59.16 | vhaarr | that's just nonsense |
| 12:59.23 | Sintacks | someone is wrong on the internet |
| 12:59.26 | Sintacks | and i have to prove it |
| 12:59.27 | Sintacks | lol |
| 12:59.36 | Sintacks | and they're a macfag/fanboy |
| 12:59.40 | quiescens | o.o |
| 12:59.43 | koaschten|pad | build a machine on current hardware |
| 12:59.49 | Sintacks | i'm going to |
| 12:59.52 | Sintacks | after i clone the mac |
| 13:01.20 | koaschten|pad | vhaar i registered for an option of another TouchPad, perhaps you are lucky. |
| 13:02.03 | vhaarr | koaschten|pad: I doubt it |
| 13:02.07 | vhaarr | but yeah, let me know |
| 13:02.51 | koaschten|pad | don't be so pessimistic :-( |
| 13:04.19 | vhaarr | I abandoned the idea ever since you linked me the facebook thing, I don't do that shit |
| 13:05.05 | koaschten | well the shop thing failed, so they replaced it with a signup mask and will raffle 1300 buy options now |
| 13:05.11 | koaschten | i think the signup is still up |
| 13:05.37 | Sintacks | heh... this mac clone might actually cost more than a mac... only because it uses older hardware that costs more than current hardware |
| 13:06.33 | koaschten | hmmm a 1155 xeon sandybridge e3-1220 can be had for 160 over here ^^ |
| 13:07.05 | koaschten | epic notice is epic |
| 13:07.06 | Sintacks | I have to get a Radeon 5770.. and that's $120 |
| 13:07.09 | Sintacks | osht |
| 13:07.27 | Sintacks | i can get a 6770 cheaper |
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| 13:09.35 | quiescens | o.o |
| 13:09.46 | quiescens | you borkeded it |
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| 13:11.11 | koaschten | read your @notices quiescens ;) -> christel [Global Notice] Hi all, as previously promised today will be the day where the network goes up in flames... I mean, where we carry out some upgrades to the ircd. I'm about to kill off a number of servers and the affected user count is ~8K! Hopefully this won't take long but I suggest you brace for impact.. |
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| 13:17.26 | Sintacks | oh fuck i wish i had money |
| 13:17.33 | Sintacks | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823114012 |
| 13:17.37 | Sintacks | comes with a free gaming mouse... |
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| 13:24.36 | vhaarr | http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeyless&pid=fc200rtabn |
| 13:24.54 | Sintacks | that's a pretty keyboard |
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| 13:25.51 | Sintacks | "N-key Rollover allows multiple simultaneous key presses to be recognized by your computer. True N-key Rollover works only with the included PS/2 adapter. Using the USB connection will limit the N-key Rollover function to 6 keys, plus 4 modifiers (Ctrl, Alt, Pgup, etc.), at a time. " |
| 13:26.02 | Sintacks | anyone else find it weird that older tech enables more keys at once ... |
| 13:26.15 | vhaarr | personally I /use/ this one http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=pfu_keyboards,hhkbpro2&pid=pdkb400bn |
| 13:26.24 | vhaarr | but I have many, many different mechanicals |
| 13:26.41 | Sintacks | $300... |
| 13:26.44 | Sintacks | holy god |
| 13:26.51 | vhaarr | I got mine for $250 a few years ago |
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| 13:28.42 | Sintacks | god damnit. wtf |
| 13:28.58 | Sintacks | newegg lost my shit and stopped working... |
| 13:31.49 | Sintacks | vhaarr, if you were to build a PC, where would you start.. what's the first piece of hardware you go for |
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| 13:34.34 | Phelps | any tips on using Ace? |
| 13:35.19 | nevcairiel | Sintacks: i would decide on what performance level i want and pick a cpu, then go for the matching mainboard |
| 13:35.37 | koaschten | +1's nevcairiel's comment. |
| 13:35.42 | Sintacks | ^ |
| 13:35.47 | Phelps | ^^ |
| 13:36.13 | Phelps | go with an i5 or i7 (amd is behind imo) |
| 13:36.13 | quiescens | flip a coin |
| 13:36.13 | koaschten | also 5MB/s transfer via usb to the touchpad is a joke :( |
| 13:36.37 | Sintacks | lol Phelps. the fanboy in me doesn't care |
| 13:36.49 | Phelps | fare enough |
| 13:36.52 | koaschten | nothing about fanboism there |
| 13:36.58 | nevcairiel | amd fanboys? those still exist? |
| 13:37.02 | koaschten | intel cpu's are currently plain supperior |
| 13:37.02 | Sintacks | <- |
| 13:37.04 | Phelps | harhar |
| 13:37.09 | Sintacks | yes, i know intel is better right now |
| 13:37.15 | Sintacks | but, i'm-a go with an AMD still |
| 13:37.21 | nevcairiel | well, your loss |
| 13:37.23 | Sintacks | not that i'm building anything.. i don't ahve money |
| 13:37.25 | Phelps | newegg shit its self, i can confirm |
| 13:37.27 | Phelps | http://216.52.208.185/ |
| 13:37.32 | Phelps | :p |
| 13:37.34 | Sintacks | yeah.. same |
| 13:37.35 | Sintacks | ;| |
| 13:37.49 | koaschten | then wait for bulldozer |
| 13:37.50 | Sintacks | at least i was done proving my point to the idiot on facebook |
| 13:37.58 | Sintacks | mac pro clone for $1000 less |
| 13:38.03 | Sintacks | using the same hardware |
| 13:38.14 | Phelps | < apple fan boy |
| 13:38.20 | Sintacks | same outdated processor. same outdated graphics card. same outdated harddrive spec |
| 13:38.24 | Phelps | but I agree, macs are crazy expensive |
| 13:38.28 | Phelps | i just dont care |
| 13:38.38 | Sintacks | I'm not saying I wouldn't own a mac |
| 13:38.45 | Sintacks | but it would run windows... |
| 13:38.51 | Sintacks | macs are sexy |
| 13:38.56 | koaschten | where is the mac pro sandy bridge refresh anyways? |
| 13:38.57 | Sintacks | I wish I could get a mac pro case for my PC |
| 13:38.57 | Phelps | use a custom built intel machine, install os X |
| 13:38.58 | Phelps | win |
| 13:39.27 | Phelps | OS X as an operating system is the reason I love my mac so much |
| 13:39.38 | Phelps | and the case is sexy to boot |
| 13:39.48 | Sintacks | why are the mac pros still running Radeon 5770s |
| 13:39.54 | Phelps | no idea |
| 13:40.11 | Phelps | if you want a performance machine, best bet is to build a hackintosh |
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| 13:40.17 | dieck | Sintacks: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811164060&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3899435&SID=skim1402X558040Xb5ea77748e19d90348b884595c982ea3 |
| 13:40.32 | Phelps | you dont get the looks, but you get the awesome OS and software that runs on it |
| 13:40.45 | Sintacks | lol. you went the reverse of what i said. |
| 13:40.51 | Sintacks | i want a mac pro case for a PC |
| 13:41.10 | Phelps | if you have ever used OS X for any amount of time, you would never use windows again |
| 13:41.39 | Sintacks | http://www.computerhope.com/cgi-bin/isitup.cgi |
| 13:41.39 | Phelps | I switched to mac about 3 years ago, i actually get angry when I use windows now |
| 13:41.44 | Sintacks | they are saying newegg.com is up... |
| 13:41.48 | Phelps | yeah |
| 13:41.48 | Sintacks | but i can't connect to it |
| 13:41.52 | Phelps | you can ping the domain |
| 13:41.56 | Phelps | their DNS is having issues |
| 13:42.08 | Sintacks | isitup isn't supposed to ping |
| 13:42.10 | dieck | here it works fine :) |
| 13:42.36 | dieck | search for Linkworld 431-06 C.2828 Silver at google images |
| 13:42.41 | Phelps | yeah, its DNS problems |
| 13:42.43 | Sintacks | i see it now |
| 13:42.47 | Sintacks | thats' close to a mac pro |
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| 13:42.53 | Sintacks | but not it though. lol |
| 13:42.56 | Sintacks | and it's deactivated |
| 13:43.12 | dieck | i'd suspect it's as close as you can get without being sued by apple :) |
| 13:43.20 | Sintacks | lol |
| 13:43.23 | Phelps | no case can compare to a mac pro case |
| 13:43.29 | Phelps | the inside is a wet dream of a case |
| 13:44.17 | Sintacks | I would love two apple displays though |
| 13:44.43 | Phelps | I have a cinema display next to my imac |
| 13:44.46 | Phelps | sexy :) |
| 13:45.31 | Sintacks | 27" Apple Thunderbolt Display... $1000 |
| 13:45.42 | Sintacks | 2 to 3 weeks shipping.... |
| 13:45.46 | Sintacks | the hell |
| 13:46.06 | Phelps | not sure, bought mine from the apple store |
| 13:46.28 | Sintacks | 2560x1440 |
| 13:46.30 | Sintacks | omnomnom |
| 13:46.39 | Phelps | i made a wallpaper for it |
| 13:46.49 | Phelps | http://benphelps.me/phelps-2560x1440.png |
| 13:46.57 | Phelps | thats what I currently use |
| 13:47.20 | Phelps | my pro ass photoshop skills |
| 13:47.27 | Phelps | and overuse of hardlight filters |
| 13:47.41 | Sintacks | why the hell does it take 2 to 3 weeks to ship... |
| 13:47.56 | Phelps | prob caus its heavy as hell |
| 13:48.01 | Sintacks | lol |
| 13:48.05 | Sintacks | 25lbs |
| 13:48.13 | Sintacks | but the actually shipping time is 5 days from when it gets set out |
| 13:48.16 | Sintacks | and nice background |
| 13:48.31 | Phelps | i dont think it would take 2-3 weeks |
| 13:48.42 | Sintacks | i would hope not |
| 13:48.52 | Phelps | you ever use OSX ? |
| 13:48.59 | Sintacks | no |
| 13:49.04 | Phelps | aww man |
| 13:49.20 | Sintacks | i haven't used mac in ... 16 years |
| 13:49.34 | Phelps | i know it sounds fanboyish, but OS X is amazing |
| 13:49.53 | Phelps | from someone who uses Linux daily and Windows.. weekly |
| 13:50.01 | Phelps | OS X is just sooo much better |
| 13:50.36 | Phelps | really though, the software you can use on a mac is what makes it so awesome |
| 13:50.48 | Sintacks | mIRC doesn't run on it |
| 13:50.50 | Sintacks | so no thanks |
| 13:50.51 | Sintacks | coughs. |
| 13:50.55 | Sintacks | inb4 xchat |
| 13:50.56 | Phelps | sure it does :p |
| 13:50.57 | Phelps | http://www.panic.com/transmit/ |
| 13:51.08 | Phelps | lol, fuck xchat |
| 13:51.14 | Phelps | its all about Linkinus |
| 13:51.23 | Phelps | http://www.conceitedsoftware.com/linkinus |
| 13:51.46 | Phelps | http://www.panic.com/coda/ |
| 13:51.58 | Phelps | http://macrabbit.com/espresso/ |
| 13:52.19 | Phelps | http://www.sequelpro.com/ |
| 13:52.28 | Phelps | pretty much the reasons i love mac right there :p |
| 13:52.44 | Phelps | ohh |
| 13:52.45 | Phelps | http://www.git-tower.com/ |
| 13:53.11 | Phelps | http://mac.github.com/ |
| 13:53.30 | Sintacks | wow... a refurb'd MacBook Air 1.4 GHz Core 2 duo... $750.. you are only saving $150 ... on a refurb'd laptop... |
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| 13:53.46 | Phelps | wouldn't buy an Air |
| 13:53.47 | Phelps | ever |
| 13:53.53 | Phelps | just get a MPB |
| 13:54.05 | Sintacks | lol. not the point. i just watned to see how much you saved with refurb'd stuff |
| 13:54.33 | Phelps | to be fair though, their refurb stuff comes as a new product |
| 13:54.44 | Phelps | you couldn't tell that its a referb |
| 13:55.05 | nevcairiel | I hate they keyboard on the MBP, Apple has no f'ing clue how to do EU keyboard layouts properly |
| 13:55.17 | nevcairiel | s/they/the/ |
| 13:55.18 | Sintacks | the iMacs us 6770s.. why the hell are the Mac Pros so outdated |
| 13:55.20 | Phelps | haha, wouldn't know |
| 13:55.25 | Phelps | i love my mac keyboard though |
| 13:56.31 | Sintacks | though, they are 6770Ms.. but not the point |
| 13:56.35 | Phelps | ohh Sintacks, it could be caus the Mac pro hasn't been updates |
| 13:56.42 | Phelps | updated * |
| 13:57.02 | Sintacks | heh. iMac was cheaper than expected |
| 13:57.06 | Sintacks | $3650 |
| 13:57.13 | Phelps | o.O |
| 13:57.15 | Sintacks | I was expecting at least 5grand |
| 13:57.19 | Phelps | what i mac you looking at |
| 13:57.29 | Sintacks | the most expensive one |
| 13:57.29 | Sintacks | :D |
| 13:57.38 | Phelps | my pimped out iMac 27" was only 2120 with tax |
| 13:58.17 | Sintacks | 27". 3.4GHz i7. 16GB ram. 2TB HDD + 256GB SSD. 6770 2GB |
| 13:58.20 | Phelps | i7, radeon 6970, and crucial ram upgrade |
| 13:58.25 | Phelps | fuck |
| 13:58.32 | Phelps | dont buy HDD or RAM upgrade from apple |
| 13:58.38 | Sintacks | lol i know. |
| 13:58.57 | Phelps | idk whats wrong with them on that |
| 13:59.05 | Sintacks | fanboys will pay for it |
| 13:59.05 | Phelps | 8GB ram upgrade... + $900 |
| 13:59.13 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:59.14 | Phelps | I'm a fanboy, but im not retarded |
| 13:59.17 | Sintacks | harddrives are worse |
| 13:59.23 | Sintacks | ok. normal fanboys will pay for it |
| 13:59.26 | Phelps | haha |
| 13:59.45 | nevcairiel | does steve jobs install the ram personally, or whats with that cost? :p |
| 13:59.53 | Phelps | not sure really |
| 14:00.08 | Sintacks | k. 1TB HDD come standard... |
| 14:00.13 | Sintacks | 2TB, $150 more |
| 14:00.20 | Phelps | maybe its made from the rust of mermaid chastity belts |
| 14:00.22 | Sintacks | I could get two more TB for $150 |
| 14:00.33 | nevcairiel | thats still alot for 1TB extra, but the RAM is really worse |
| 14:00.47 | Sintacks | 6970 1GB to a 6970 2GB.. $100 more |
| 14:01.02 | Sintacks | yeah.. ram is bad. |
| 14:01.10 | Sintacks | 4GB standard.. 8GB, $200 more |
| 14:01.16 | Phelps | I only paid for that because its integrated |
| 14:01.18 | Sintacks | and it's only 1333 |
| 14:01.44 | Sintacks | I need to look into my AppleCare for my iPhone... i need .. something |
| 14:01.49 | Sintacks | my home button doesn't work right |
| 14:01.55 | Sintacks | it'll click but not do shit |
| 14:01.56 | Megalon | BUT I JUST WANT TO USE MY MAC AND NOT INSTALL MY RAM PERSONALLY SO THE $900 IS FINE FOR ME FFS |
| 14:02.19 | Phelps | i got this |
| 14:02.19 | Phelps | http://www.crucial.com/store/mpartspecs.aspx?mtbpoid=CEB1ACF0A5CA7304 |
| 14:02.55 | Phelps | but look at this BS |
| 14:02.56 | Phelps | http://www.crucial.com/store/mpartspecs.aspx?mtbpoid=EA1CBC19A5CA7304 |
| 14:03.04 | Phelps | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:03.48 | Sintacks | woo. Status: Expires July 22, 2012 |
| 14:03.58 | Sintacks | I thought I paid for two years, but wasn't sure |
| 14:04.39 | Phelps | so I want to build a GUI for my addon, how do I go about embedding AceGUI into my addon |
| 14:05.23 | Sintacks | oshit. AppleCare covers the headphones that came with it. |
| 14:05.31 | Sintacks | those broke like, 8 months ago.. |
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| 14:07.29 | Phelps | anyone? |
| 14:07.39 | Phelps | do I only need LibStub and AceGUI ? |
| 14:07.51 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 14:08.06 | nevcairiel | well and callbackhandler, possibly, not sure if it uses it |
| 14:08.11 | nevcairiel | maybe not |
| 14:08.42 | Phelps | I was using Portfolio, but it seems dead now |
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| 15:00.04 | Phelps | nevcairiel: since yo replied to my first question, no errors, but the example code doesn't show, what gives |
| 15:00.28 | nevcairiel | are you using the tutorial i wrote ages ago? |
| 15:00.34 | Phelps | http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/ace-gui-3-0-tutorial/ |
| 15:00.43 | Phelps | so i guess ? |
| 15:00.44 | Phelps | haha |
| 15:01.02 | nevcairiel | you may need to call :Show on it |
| 15:01.09 | Phelps | k |
| 15:02.08 | nevcairiel | i dont remember if frames are shown by default |
| 15:04.08 | Phelps | nevcairiel: i got it, epic fail on my part |
| 15:04.12 | Phelps | I didn't "local AceGUI = LibStub("AceGUI-3.0")" |
| 15:04.27 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:37.10 | Torhal|work | sylvanaar: ping |
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| 15:38.06 | Torhal|work | sylvanaar: Just wondering if there's an updated wow-api-signatures.lua for IntelliJ |
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| 15:54.38 | Phelps | is there a way to hide the sizer thingy |
| 15:54.39 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp 07master * 2.2.8-83-g5ae869a / (3 files in 3 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 15:54.40 | Repo | 5ae869a: Merge remote branch 'origin/master' |
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| 15:54.48 | Phelps | the local sizer_se = CreateFrame("Frame", nil, frame) |
| 15:55.14 | Phelps | nvm |
| 15:55.18 | Phelps | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:05.13 | Phelps | nope |
| 16:05.35 | Phelps | nevcairiel: can I hide the resize triangle on a Frame window |
| 16:05.50 | Phelps | Window has it, but Frame does not |
| 16:06.55 | nevcairiel | i guess you can't then! |
| 16:07.04 | Phelps | i can add it myself |
| 16:07.13 | Phelps | though thats probably bad practice |
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| 16:10.12 | Torhal|work | Phelps: If you want things which AceGUI doesn't provide (and there isn't sense writing a custom widget for it) and the only option is to muck with the internals, then using homebrew frames is the better choice every time. |
| 16:10.46 | Phelps | I just dont want the frame to be resizable is all |
| 16:10.58 | Phelps | should be a general option imo |
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| 16:12.32 | Torhal|work | Phelps: AceGUI was mostly intended for implementing config frames (usually via AceConfigDialog), so they're not very customizable. Hence, homebrew frames. |
| 16:13.36 | Phelps | yeah, its for my addons configuration, but resizing it is pretty much not needed |
| 16:13.54 | Phelps | I'll just leave the resize thing if I cant hide it |
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| 18:25.24 | Repo | 10firstlootever: 03stolenlegacy * r68 / (2 files in 1 directory): Preparing beta-4. |
| 18:25.46 | Repo | 10firstlootever: 03stolenlegacy 04beta-4 * r69 : Tagging beta-4. |
| 18:27.59 | Phelps | nevcairiel: hey, question if you dont mind |
| 18:28.01 | Phelps | SetCallback("OnValueChanged", function(...) print(...) end) |
| 18:28.18 | Phelps | I'm given 3 inputs, the last 2 I understand, whats the first one |
| 18:28.20 | Phelps | its a HUGE table |
| 18:28.43 | Torhal|work | Phelps: It's the object passed as the "self" parameter. |
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| 18:28.52 | Torhal|work | Either the EditBox or ScrollBar |
| 18:28.55 | Torhal|work | Or whatever it is |
| 18:29.02 | Phelps | so pretty much everything then |
| 18:29.21 | Phelps | just curious what it was, wanted to give it a correct label |
| 18:29.23 | Torhal|work | Any widget which would have an OnValueChanged() script, yah. |
| 18:29.39 | Torhal|work | Think of it like this: |
| 18:30.03 | Phelps | self, callback, value |
| 18:30.07 | Phelps | is what I have now |
| 18:30.11 | Torhal|work | Yah |
| 18:30.30 | Torhal|work | Or, if you know what type of object "self" is, use that |
| 18:30.30 | Phelps | alright then, thanks |
| 18:30.43 | Torhal|work | That way your code is clearer |
| 18:30.52 | Phelps | what do you mean? |
| 18:31.00 | Phelps | like CheckBox ? |
| 18:31.03 | Torhal|work | scroll_frame, callback, value |
| 18:31.05 | Torhal|work | Aye |
| 18:31.11 | Phelps | alright |
| 18:31.33 | Phelps | Ace is pretty awesome btw :) |
| 18:32.24 | sylvanaar_work | Torhal: no, i havent updated it, does it need one? |
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| 18:33.27 | Torhal|work | sylvanaar_work: No idea whether things were aqdded/changed/removed since it was updated or not. |
| 18:33.31 | Torhal|work | added* |
| 18:36.00 | sylvanaar_work | yeah, Im going to have to figure out how i created it in the first place now |
| 18:36.22 | sylvanaar_work | i'll take a patch if you feel like doing it :P |
| 18:37.05 | Torhal|work | Hehe |
| 18:37.14 | Torhal|work | I don't know how you created it either, so... |
| 18:39.58 | sylvanaar_work | im guessing i just scraped the api listing |
| 18:40.30 | sylvanaar_work | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api |
| 18:42.48 | sylvanaar_work | hrm, no there must have been another page |
| 18:43.22 | sylvanaar_work | i think jnwhiteh gave me a special link to use, oh man, now i have to check all my logs to find it |
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| 18:58.19 | asmodai | sylvanaar_work: :) |
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| 19:50.09 | Gnarfoz | Kaelten: any ETA on new Amazon gift cards in the shop? |
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| 20:36.21 | Torhal|work | Gnarfoz: They're auto-ordered by the SF office when they hit a certain level |
| 20:37.55 | Gnarfoz | hmm... so I assume they're already ordered, since the level is currently 0 for all EUR denominations? :D |
| 20:38.56 | nevcairiel | the certain level is -1 |
| 20:39.26 | asmodai | EOUTOFBOUNDS |
| 20:39.59 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: go shopping in the UK, they still have some |
| 20:40.18 | Gnarfoz | uhm, hm |
| 20:40.24 | nevcairiel | amazon.com has a shitload of cards as well |
| 20:40.31 | Gnarfoz | gotta check how much I lose from currency conversion, then |
| 20:40.35 | nevcairiel | are that many germans earning points, or do we just get elss cards? :p |
| 20:40.51 | nevcairiel | or rather, euro zone |
| 20:40.59 | Gnarfoz | less cards, probably |
| 20:41.13 | Gnarfoz | also, I have a 55,37⬠amazon.de gift card to spend |
| 20:41.14 | nevcairiel | i suppose some people from neighbouring countrys order as well |
| 20:41.14 | Gnarfoz | so... meh |
| 20:43.35 | Gnarfoz | or possibly that card could also work on a UK order |
| 20:43.36 | Gnarfoz | not sure |
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| 20:50.41 | jnwhiteh | sylvanaar_work: do you need it again |
| 20:50.54 | sylvanaar_work | :) Yes |
| 20:53.33 | jnwhiteh | ? |
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| 21:16.26 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: german cards are out of stock for 2 months or so now |
| 21:16.26 | Stanzilla | :< |
| 21:16.44 | Gnarfoz | so the required level is -200? |
| 21:16.45 | Gnarfoz | :( |
| 21:16.49 | Gnarfoz | VERY out of stock ;p |
| 21:16.56 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 21:17.15 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: but you can tell me if you find out that shopping in .com/uk is worth it |
| 21:18.22 | Gnarfoz | all depends on of I can spend my 55,37⬠thingy there |
| 21:19.07 | Stanzilla | but you can be a nice Gnarfoz and find it out anyway :8 |
| 21:21.14 | Kaelten | they changed some of their processes for ordering |
| 21:21.19 | Kaelten | so it's beend elayed |
| 21:21.23 | Kaelten | but should be in soon from what I've been told |
| 21:23.40 | asmodai | omg, it's Kaelten |
| 21:23.51 | Kaelten | hi :) |
| 21:23.57 | asmodai | How's ya doing? |
| 21:24.20 | Torhal|work | Kaelten: It's a trap! |
| 21:24.52 | Kaelten | asmodai: doing ok, just trying to work my way through what feels like a mountain of sand |
| 21:26.02 | asmodai | Kaelten: That sounds sooo familiar :( |
| 21:26.06 | Torhal|work | I'm pretty sure that's a mountain of mountains, Kaelten. |
| 21:34.19 | Repo | 10mylunes-champions (experimental): 03nyyr * r11 main.lua: * removed warning on unknown pets and just add them |
| 21:35.15 | Repo | 10archud3: 03nyyr * r85 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 21:35.16 | Repo | * added option to show an incoming heal indicator for player health |
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| 21:44.07 | Torhal|work | @project mylunes-champions |
| 21:44.08 | Repo | Torhal|work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/mylunes-champions/. Mylune's Champions. Game: WoW. Status: Experimental. nyyr (Manager/Author). Updated: 8 minutes ago |
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| 23:50.08 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla, nevcairiel: custom amazon.de gift card thingies are sadly not able to be used on .co.uk (only .de and .at and javari.de whatever that is) |
| 23:50.38 | Gnarfoz | -custom |
| 23:52.16 | Gnarfoz | also, product in GBP @ .co.uk is ~6⬠more expensive than .de |
| 23:52.36 | Gnarfoz | AND still no d3 beta. I'm simply out of luck ;P |
