IRC log for #wowace on 20110822

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00:48.45vhaarrwtf Groktar, that's just evil!
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00:48.51vhaarrthrowing me an /actual/ NPE
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01:33.37superman0069noobs!
01:34.30superman0069let me see that thong
01:35.29superman0069stop playing wow nerds!
01:35.53Dark_Elfno
01:36.24superman0069why
01:36.46superman0069slaps Dark_Elf around a bit with a large trout
01:36.59Dark_Elfbah
01:37.16superman0069i'm a worgen warlock!
01:37.30Dark_Elfthen go play it
01:37.33TorhalAnd here I thought you were a Human Troll.
01:37.34superman0069no
01:37.52superman0069well i can turn my worgen into a human..
01:38.14superman0069troll is horde though
01:38.23Torhal...
01:38.57superman0069so what's up guys
01:39.08superman0069slaps Torhal around a bit with a large trout
01:40.02superman0069torhal stop raiding and say something
01:40.08superman0069dark elf stop role playing
01:40.15superman0069talk to me brother
01:40.57Dark_Elfhows the weather in montreal?
01:41.07superman0069raining :-(
01:41.22superman0069how is it in frankfurt
01:41.43Dark_Elfi haveth no ideath
01:42.05superman0069well damn u
01:43.29Dark_Elfdid the finger, version and ping accomplish anything?
01:43.36superman0069yes
01:43.50superman0069did the spending to much time on mirc accomplish anything in your life?
01:43.59Dark_Elfno
01:44.07superman0069thought so
01:44.20Dark_Elfi dont use mirc
01:44.41superman0069orion
01:45.33Dark_Elflol
01:46.28*** join/#wowace superman0069 (~superman@bas1-montreal31-1242529324.dsl.bell.ca)
01:46.37superman0069so what's going on
01:47.11superman0069are you on eu servers or NA servers when u play wow
01:47.37Dark_Elfim on the free servers :p
01:47.49superman0069ah the private servers
01:48.15mckenziemc1o.o
01:49.22superman0069never knew there was a wowace thing ahah
01:49.26superman0069i found it by luck
01:49.41Dark_Elfnot sure if that was good luck or bad luck
01:49.54superman0069bad luck since you are here!
01:49.58superman0069zing!
01:50.08Dark_Elfi agree
01:50.27superman0069so you're a blood elf i suppose
01:50.39Dark_Elfperhaps
01:50.40superman0069and wait let me guess,you're a paly
01:50.52Dark_Elfactually i play em all
01:51.03superman0069nobody can touch my warlock
01:51.06Repo10gnomeworks: 03lilsparky * r156 plugins/lsw.lua: lsw support tweaks
01:51.22superman0069worgen warlock
01:51.25superman0069he's pimp
01:51.49Dark_Elfi wonder if worgen lick themselves like dogs do?
01:52.02superman0069possible,but we sure look badass!
01:52.26Dark_Elfwe horde dont like u worgen
01:52.28superman0069i can also turn myself into a mount!
01:52.43superman0069well i use to be an orc warlock :p
01:52.46superman0069until i xfered
01:53.22superman0069boy did i ever use to have huge shoulders.
01:53.41mckenziemc1: /
01:53.50Dark_Elfblizzard need to fix worgen anims
01:54.02superman0069why,what's wrong :O
01:54.14superman0069besides the stupid dance
01:54.22Dark_Elfive seen it get stuck picking up items and sometimes on quest in run mode
01:54.42superman0069maybe it happens on your private servers only :p
01:54.46superman0069never seen it happen
01:54.54Dark_Elfthat was on paid server
01:55.21mckenziemc1getting stuck in the loot animation can happen to every race, and i can't tell what you're saying in the 2nd part
01:55.30superman0069use to be a bug where worgens would mount up,then log out,and when logged back in,we use to be way bigger then our mounts
01:55.31Dark_Elfwent pick up item worgen would get stuck in picking up anim and wouldnt do nothing else
01:55.59Dark_Elfrun forward and it would still look like it picking up
01:56.06mckenziemc1generic bug
01:56.10superman0069i never saw that though
01:56.22superman0069u guys playing on european servers?
01:56.33mckenziemc1US here
01:56.39aestilvhaar: yes, that was a question
01:56.44superman0069i'm on ysera
01:57.05superman0069use to be on mug'thol horde
01:57.19mckenziemc1i have abandoned alts on Ysera D:
01:57.29superman0069alliance or horde :P
01:57.44aestilI have this so far, which I know is very wrong, but i'm trying to not cheat by going straight to one of the 20 addons that do this already
01:57.45aestilhttp://pastebin.com/0KzXduWk
01:58.49superman0069guess what the name of my warlock is
01:58.51mckenziemc1what are you trying to do
01:58.59mckenziemc1i didn't understand what you had said earlier
02:00.21Dark_Elfspying on code, i was just wondering why using self: aestil?
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02:02.16mckenziemc1probably body of an Enable function
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02:09.08aestilat this point i'm trying to correctly make it so that i get a value from a function, and correctly store it as a variable
02:09.15aestilwhich i think is what i have to do.
02:10.14aestili suppose i could also just do if GetGossipAvailableQuests(isDaily) = 1 then do ... else end
02:10.38aestilbut this is more of an exersize for me to just learn _something_\
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02:11.17aestili thought to register an addon to look for an even required me to do self:register etc...
02:11.27aestilif that's wrong then i'm glad i learned that
02:11.38aestilthis is day 1.5 of me trying to learn lua as my first entrance into programing.
02:14.55aestili am a total noob.
02:16.55Dark_Elfnah ur doing fine
02:22.34Dark_Elflocal addonname = CreateFrame("Frame") addonname:RegisterEvent("GOSSIP_SHOW") - guess i like emphasizing the addon name although self works
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04:41.22Repo10arl: 03pompachomp 07master * 2.2.7-29-gdb65c7a / (3 files in 3 directories): [+1 commit] Removed the vendor "Brienna Starglow" because she's a regular NPC now ... and "Azure Silk Cloak" is only initially obtainable by Horde since around 4.0.x
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05:22.01ShirikOops! Google Chrome could not find www.google.com. Suggestions:
05:22.04ShirikTry reloading the page
05:22.05ShirikSearch on Google:
05:22.32Shirikso I'm going to ask a stupid question I already know the answer to
05:22.35Shirikcan anyone else get to google?
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05:33.46TorhalShirik: Aye
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05:52.29asmodaihttp://imgur.com/r/gaming/tm3Fb
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06:33.01starlonI'm having issues with the entire internet. I can connect to my ssh account and sometimes Facebook...
06:33.35starlonwants a graphical text www client.
06:35.14Torhalo.O
06:35.20TorhalGraphical text...
06:35.21Torhal...
06:35.23starlonya
06:35.26starlonit can happen
06:35.37Torhal~wiki links
06:35.49Torhal~wiki lynx
06:35.51TorhalBah
06:36.07starlonI use links
06:36.18starlonI know about lynx
06:36.44TorhalI'm pretty sure that your standard Web browser is both "graphical" and "text"
06:36.50TorhalAnd that those two are JUST text.
06:36.58starlonno I can't connect to anything but my ssh account
06:37.14Torhalnothing to do with browser...
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06:37.33starlonYou're misunderstanding me. I was making a funny.
06:37.43TorhalAh
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06:37.46TorhalTime for sleep.
06:37.47starlonshoulda been graphical-text
06:37.50starlonnight
06:41.19starlonI used to host a private proxy on my ssh account and I could tunnel through. server owner didn't like it. heh
06:41.32starloneven though it only accepted localhost
06:43.53mckenziemc1"Make sense!"
06:44.06starlonmake me
06:44.20mckenziemc1casts Rocket Barrage at starlon
06:44.25starlondies.
06:47.07starlonhmm I can connect to wowace too
06:48.01mckenziemc1not while you're dead
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06:55.56starlonguild res'd me
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07:02.47starlonyay I can get to reddit.com. I don't have to go to sleep
07:04.08starlonlays a golden egg he's so happy.
07:05.02starloncause my other option was turning off air conditioning and fans to try and record something.
07:05.15starlonTexas heat...
07:05.44starlonTexas ISPs...
07:06.36starlonTexas is going to be the nation's nuclear waste dump. They'll move all the indigent south by promising minimum wage jobs, while everyone else flees from cancer.
07:07.55starlonGovernor Perry pulled strings to make sure this project went through, even though water levels were too high according to the experts.
07:08.21starlonIt's easy money though.
07:09.12starlontalks and talks until his skull goes pop.
07:11.52starlonoh, so I can connect to reddit.com, but can't connect to the servers following links. lol...
07:11.58starlonthere's always comments
07:12.36starlonand there's always #wowace :D
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07:14.43starlonJust in case you think you're moving to Texas, here's one stranger's account - https://gist.github.com/1158715
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07:21.07Groktari just discovered mod_security for apache httpd
07:21.14Groktartime to change my servertoken...
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08:11.01asmodaisylvanaar: So I follow the pycharm bitbucket plugin link and spot your name there in the comments :)
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08:59.17Repo10gummibears: 03stencil * r2 / (4 files in 1 directory): addon created
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10:24.28vhaarrTorhal: I think you mean elinks
10:24.36vhaarr~wiki elinks
10:39.49asmodaiheh: http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/562
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11:08.33harlhow is name=GetProfessionInfo(GetProfessions());CastSpellByName(name); "only available to the Blizzard UI" if it actually works for another character..
11:10.18harlprobably because it's mining and mining doesn't have its own profession link - as opposed to alchemy?
11:10.24harlthat's not good
11:12.44hastemining is an action
11:12.50hastewhile alchemy just opens the UI
11:13.06harlmining has smelting though
11:13.28harlit's, like, "part of the job"
11:14.08hastebut what does it return?
11:14.26hasteI'm guessing it returns mining, and then tries to cast it
11:14.32hastenot smelting, which is a part of it
11:14.41hasteyou have the same issues, just reversed, with enchanting
11:15.01harlit's just getting blocked by said error message
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11:16.00mckenziemc"You /can/ still use this function outside of secure code to open trade skill windows and to summon non-combat pets and mounts. "
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12:20.52Repo10grid-status-hots: 03Sayclub * r175 GridStatusHotsLocale_koKR.lua: koKR update
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15:54.30RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/gummibears/. GummiBears. stencil (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal.
16:01.37SunTsu@describe gummibears
16:01.38RepoSunTsu: http://www.wowace.com/addons/gummibears/. GummiBears. ## Version: 4.2.00
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16:03.41Slaymanat first I read GummiBears and thought: WTF who's playing that silly tune to themselves for some meaningless ingame event! I despise of it! Then I read the description and now I'm gonna install it. those damned prejudices!
16:04.29nevcairielthat tune is great!
16:04.49Slaymannev, I really like all the work you do with all those addons
16:04.57Slaymanbut your taste SUCKS <_<
16:05.16nevcairielyou should listen to it in some funny language, so you dont understand the words anymore
16:05.22groktarwho wants to see some gross sql that i just wrote?
16:05.22groktar:D
16:05.47Slaymanmmh that is indeed an option, I remember listening to the damned thing in polish on youtube, that cracked me up
16:05.58Slaymangroktar: gimme
16:06.26SlaymanSunTsu: Ping
16:08.02SunTsupong
16:09.00SlaymanSunTsu: on second thought nevermind, I was boggled by gummibears and my duties to CRezz, but a second later i figured: macro the unshift with that cast
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16:09.58SunTsuI'm not playing druid anymore anyway, left alone tank with it
16:10.21Slaymanwhy not tanking has gotten considerably easier
16:10.36Slaymanexcept on groups
16:12.01SunTsuwell wrath somehow spoiled tanking for me and I'm reluctant to try it again
16:12.17groktarslayman: max(if(crf.field_name like 'equipment_cost_%',concat('$',cast(round(p.treated*crf.field_value,2) as decimal(100,2))),'')) as total_cost
16:12.48SunTsubut, well, maybe as soon as my dk has enough tanking gear, right now still working on decent dps gear
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16:13.26SlaymanI should level my pally to 85, so I can compare em all
16:13.52Slaymanhowever DK tanking is, at least for me, considerably harder in raids
16:14.14SunTsuRight now I'm half through with getting my toons to 85.
16:14.53SlaymanI'm at 7 @ 85 working on the 8th (76) and the 9th is just able to ride
16:15.23Slaymanhowever without another slot the 10th would be rather hard since my mule is occupying that slot ;(
16:18.16Slaymangroktar, mmh your parantheses are a bit off I think
16:18.33SunTsuI'm at 5 of 10, of 11 if I count my horde dk
16:18.51SunTsudon't have too much time to play lately
16:18.51Slaymangroktar: max(if(crf.field_name like 'equipment_cost_%',concat('$',cast(round(p.treated*crf.field_value),2 as decimal(100,2))),'')) as total_cost
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16:21.42groktarhmm it ran ok
16:22.23groktaractually yours are off, too
16:22.28groktarthe ,2 needs to be inside the round
16:22.46groktarround(1231.1231,2) = 1231.12
16:23.00Slaymangroktar: I was under the impression round(value,decimal) should be right
16:24.04groktarcast(round(p.treated*crf.field_value),2 as decimal(100,2)) definitely isn't right
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16:34.16pompy@describe gummibears
16:34.18Repopompy: http://www.wowace.com/addons/gummibears/. GummiBears. ## Version: 4.2.00
16:34.28Torhal|work@describe arl
16:34.29RepoTorhal|work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Ackis Recipe List is an addon which will scan your trade skills and provide information on how to obtain recipes. It works fo...
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17:27.48aestilGood morning
17:28.04aestilhow far off is this from being techinically correct
17:28.05aestilhttp://www.wowace.com/paste/3739/
17:31.55Dark_Elfim not qualified to answer but i can tell you that a end is missing, function end with end and if end in end
17:34.43Dark_Elfi think line 6 should be end but could be wrong
17:35.10Torhal|workIt should be.
17:35.21Torhal|workThe if-block is ended, but the function is not.
17:35.26Torhal|workSo that needs to be remedied.
17:35.42Torhal|workPlus return shouldn't have a colon after it.
17:36.00aestilshould just be return qi
17:36.02aestil?
17:36.04Torhal|workYes.
17:36.35aestilis qi local to my file, or only to that function?
17:36.55Torhal|workIt's declared/defined within the function...
17:37.09aestiljust wanted to make sure.
17:37.13Torhal|workSo the variable only exists there, but you're returning the reference to it.
17:38.01aestiland the value of GetGossipAvailableQuests(isDaily) is either 1, or nil, so qi should have a value of 1 or nil, per that function?
17:38.43Torhal|workaestil: Actually, that function takes no arguments but returns multiple values.
17:38.56Torhal|workAssigning it to 'qi' only grabs the "name" value.
17:39.10Torhal|workisDaily is its fourth return valuye.
17:39.12Torhal|workvalue*
17:39.19aestili should really say after if event == "GOSSIP_SHOW" then
17:39.36Torhal|workSo you'd want to do this: local _, _, _, isDaily = GetGossipAvailableQuests()
17:39.41Torhal|workThe return isDaily
17:39.46Torhal|workThen*
17:40.39aestilsince i want to do something if the value of isDaily is 1, I should do
17:40.53aestilif isDaily == 1 then
17:41.00Torhal|workAlso, that function returns different values each time; it starts at the head of the list and each subsequent call returns the next in list, etc
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17:41.45Torhal|workI've never dealt with these functions, myself; I'm simply reading http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetGossipAvailableQuests
17:41.56aestilI'm looking at it as well.
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17:47.51aestilthank you for answering my noob questions.
17:48.28aestili only need the answer to isDaily atm.
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17:51.09GagorianYou should just test it yourself, best way to learn
17:51.13GagorianBut yes, that's the idea
17:52.37aestili'm not sure how to get the addon to load in wow yet.
17:52.37aestil: /
17:53.04GagorianThere should be plenty of basic tutorials
17:53.19aestili'm sure there are.  i will find one.
17:53.30GagorianThose are things you should figure out by yourself, then it's easier to work from that
17:54.50GagorianIt's of course always OK to pastey your code and have someone look at it, but honestly it's best to just experiment
17:55.28aestili'm barely understanding this yet.
17:57.29aestileven the terms, like return or argument or when torhal says 'that function takes no arguments but returns multiple' i don't really know what he means.  so little by little i try to grasp it.
17:57.57aestilso far just searching wowprograming for the different things I think i need, and trying to work out logically what i need to do, and asking for help.
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18:11.14aestili'm just going to order that guide to wowprograming book, and hopefully it covers a lot of these probably very basic noob questions i have.
18:12.17Primerjust use the internet, it's cheaper
18:13.47Dark_Elfsometimes can find at libraries but rare
18:14.16aestilused on amazon its like 15 bucks or something
18:15.13Dark_Elfthing is it was made b4 4.2
18:15.30nevcairielnot that much changed
18:15.58Dark_Elftrue but i think the function has changed for the daily quest
18:16.48asmodaiI still have the first edition of that book XD
18:17.47nevcairielme too
18:17.48nevcairielsomewhere
18:18.19Dark_Elfstill worth the money though
18:24.04asmodaiThat and as paperweight.
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18:48.33Repo10grid-status-hots: 03Bogenlampe 044.2.0.2b * r176 : tagging as 4.2.0.2b
18:48.34RepoIMPORTANT (r174 alpha or newer): ALL STATUSES SHOULD NOW BE DISABLED BY DEFAULT SO YOU WILL HAVE TO MANUALLY (RE-)ENABLE THEM!
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18:53.38StanzillaOKAY THANKS
18:57.05aestilwhat does the parameter 'self' refer to?
19:03.57Dark_Elfself, a reference to the frame to which the script handler belongs
19:07.48aestilwhen i think of frame, i think of some sort of existing panel or something in the game.
19:11.30Dark_Elfhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Handling_events
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19:14.24aestilthank you.
19:14.25aestilrockstar.
19:15.05aestilso, i'm a noob if i'm just doing self:SetScript(blah, blah) without actually creating a frame first that I can work on?
19:15.37Torhal|workCompletely.
19:16.17Torhal|workfunction YourAddOnFrame:DoStuff() self:SetScript("OnSomething", FunctionHandler) end
19:16.20aestiloutstanding
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19:18.35aestilsomeday, i will be less ignorant.
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21:57.58winkdammit, too bad evl's gone
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21:58.16wink7 lines of lua and I managed to patch SliceDice to have an envenom bar
21:58.22winkthe code is that good
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22:07.13Torhal|workwink: Looks like you can contact him on GitHub: https://github.com/evl
22:07.58winkhehe
22:13.28Stanzillaget out of my mind Torhal|work
22:16.26koaschtenso can you people please stop DDOSing the hp web store? i want to buy a touchpad for 99 ;X
22:17.35Stanzillanaw
22:27.18RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/micromalist/. Micromalist. whizkid (Manager/Author). Approved by myrroddin.
22:34.50winkdamn, why can't I do /script X,Y = UnitDebuff("target", 2818) for Deadly Poison?
22:34.56winkkoaschten: you still playing Rogur?
22:35.01wink*Rogue. ffs
22:36.48sylvanaarasmodai: you mean you dont know about my Lua IDE?
22:37.00winkha!
22:37.25koaschtenwink casually yes
22:37.45winkkoaschten: but no idea about an addon to show DP ticks, I assume?
22:37.55koaschtenyou want a tick timer?
22:38.00winkyeah
22:38.04winkthink I didn't have one for all of wotlk and cata now
22:38.31winkSliceCommander and SliceAdmiral give me the creeps
22:38.33koaschteni know event horizon shows you tick marks
22:38.51winkhm, that might be worth a look. thanks
22:40.06Stanzillawhy do you need to see the ticks? :O
22:40.50koaschteni am wondering too
22:40.57koaschtenbecause envenom doesnt wipe out deadly stacks ;)
22:41.34winkmostly because I wanted to have a look at the code
22:41.40winkand to try a few things :P
22:41.49winkbut good point, didn't even think of the Envenom change
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22:45.00winkok, DP timer works and is kinda useless.
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22:47.40Stanzillagood job :D
22:49.19winkhey, I don't even know lua
22:49.30winkit's just occasional addon fixing and configuring awesome
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22:53.49groktarhates his coworker for writing something that needed postgres/postgis
22:58.08Primereh?
22:58.14Primersurely you don't prefer mysql?
22:58.20groktarwell
22:58.21Primerand it's ghetto geospatial stuff?
22:58.23Primerits
22:58.37winkso, evl_SliceDice with Envenom, Feint, Vanish and CloS support \o/
22:58.39Primeris an expert with postgres + postgis, btw
22:58.44groktarwe don't have postgres on our db server
22:58.49Primerthat's too bad
22:58.52Primerwhat did he write?
22:58.53groktarand he made it require postgres 9.x
22:59.00Primernothing wrong with that
22:59.02groktarsome buffer zones stuff
22:59.09groktarya, and i had to go compile it
22:59.09groktar:/
22:59.14Primerwhy?
22:59.20PrimerSurely there are packages for your distro?
22:59.25groktar8.4 ones
22:59.28groktarnot 9
22:59.41PrimerThird party repo?
22:59.48PrimerThose exist, you know
22:59.48groktardidn't see one
22:59.58groktarwell, i was going off the links on their site
23:00.03groktari think i got it working ok now
23:00.04PrimerThat's what I would have looked for first
23:00.20PrimerWhat distro?
23:00.21groktarhardest part was figuring out where they hid the startup script
23:00.23groktarubuntu
23:00.31Primermy condolences
23:00.43winksuggests Excel as a data storage. tried and true
23:01.30groktarcommands pgadmin to connect
23:03.28Primerhttps://launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/postgresql
23:04.54Primerpostgis will likely have no packages though
23:21.08groktari don't need it now
23:21.10groktarit's working
23:21.41groktaris there a nice windows admin thing? i usually use sqlyog for mysql
23:24.16Primerpgadmin3
23:24.56groktarok, that's what i installed
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23:25.40groktarnow where do i type in a query...
23:25.55groktarah, here we go
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23:42.44groktarpermissions fun now
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23:45.11groktarwoot!
23:45.48groktari just gave mysql superuser
23:45.58groktarneed to figure out the accounts the webservers need now
23:53.15DWSRWhy would you give a daemon superuser
23:57.43koaschtenbecause root is the solution to all issues
23:58.17DWSRYes. Including the issue of computer security.
23:58.48koaschtenwheres my irony tags if i need them...
23:59.36DWSRs/if/when/?

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