00:03.25 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Rabbit * r505 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
00:03.26 | Repo | Add a print when repair permission is temporarily granted, and base the default withdrawal limit on the avg. ilvl. |
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00:23.36 | Repo | 10gnomishatter: 03Rabbit * r2 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
00:23.37 | Repo | Initial commit of a shattering throw thingybob that won't get nearly enough features for you to be interested. |
00:24.40 | vhaarr | err, wtf the .lua file there contains the same as the .toc file |
00:26.04 | vhaarr | what-the-hell |
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00:31.37 | Repo | 10gnomishatter: 03Rabbit * r3 shatter.lua: |
00:31.38 | Repo | wtf everything got lost, good thing it was a simple addon - drycoded |
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02:46.02 | Repo | 10shared-media-blizzard: 03Seerah * r33 / (2 files in 1 directory): SharedMedia-Blizzard: |
02:46.03 | Repo | - added 8 new backgrounds |
02:46.04 | Repo | - added 2 new statusbars |
02:46.05 | Repo | - updated TOC number |
02:47.30 | Repo | 10shared-media-blizzard: 03Seerah 041.6 * r34 : Tagging as 1.6 |
02:47.36 | Repo | 10gnomeworks: 03lilsparky * r148 Libs/LibTradeSkillScan.lua: drycode fix to tradeskill scanner |
02:50.23 | Repo | 10lfg-call-arms-broker: 03eridius 07master * v0.9.3-4-g8541911 / (4 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits] |
02:50.24 | Repo | 8541911: Add Role filter in preferences |
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03:36.55 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03ananhaid * r8511 / (4 files in 2 directories): BigWigs: |
03:37.10 | Repo | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
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04:22.16 | p3lim | Why isnt the packager running on Molinari? |
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04:49.38 | p3lim | any mods/admins awake? |
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05:09.58 | Repo | 10xperl: 03mysticalos * r553 XPerl_RaidFrames/XPerl_Raid.lua: |
05:09.59 | Repo | Comment out the part that still taints and only leave in the part that doesnt |
05:15.51 | Repo | 10lfg-call-arms-broker: 03eridius 07master * v0.9.3-7-g6ba54d5 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits] |
05:15.52 | Repo | 6ba54d5: Add option to play a sound when the CtA roles change |
05:15.53 | Repo | c0466f2: Give disabled roles a greyed-out look |
05:15.54 | Repo | a100477: Add embed for AceGUI-3.0 |
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05:52.16 | Repo | 10big-brother: 03oscarucb * r259 BigBrother.lua: add click item linking |
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06:57.41 | vhaarr | aw man I'd like to smack this person in the face; |
06:57.49 | vhaarr | talking about a ingame taint issue: "If this error message stops appearing when all addons are disabled, then it's an addon causing the problem." |
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08:10.02 | harl | hey |
08:10.21 | mckenziemc | doesn't mourn Fisker |
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09:10.31 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03a9012456 * r8512 Locales/common.zhTW.lua: zhTW update |
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09:21.59 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r8513 Firelands/Locales/frFR.lua: frFR Update |
09:30.44 | Repo | 10ora3: 03a9012456 * r506 locales/zhTW.lua: zhTW update |
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10:13.10 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r968 GrimBatol/Umbriss.lua: Maybe fix Umbriss (for now), drycoded! Ticket #53. |
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10:53.04 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r8515 Firelands/Locales/koKR.lua: koKR Update |
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11:29.29 | Repo | 10ldb-vengeance: 03DerSchreiner 041.2.3-Releace * r39 : Tagging as 1.2.3-Releace |
11:29.59 | Repo | 10ldb-vengeance: 03DerSchreiner 041.2.3-Release * r40 : Tagging as 1.2.3-Release |
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11:42.16 | Repo | 10grim-reaper: 03ywfn * r96 GrimReaper.toc: |
11:42.17 | Repo | Seems to be working fine with 4.2 after my last commit (couple weeks of testing here) |
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15:38.41 | Repo | 10firstlootever (experimental): 03stolenlegacy * r18 / (2 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 4 lines) |
15:38.42 | Repo | Added achievements: |
15:38.43 | Repo | - Cataclysmic Collector |
15:38.44 | Repo | -- Obtain at least one new item while in each of the listed zones. |
15:38.45 | Repo | --- Mount Hyjal |
15:40.24 | Repo | 10weakauras: 03CommanderSirow * r175 / (4 files in 1 directory): * Added role-load options (Ticket 184) |
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16:55.36 | groktar | hisses and spits at a varchar(10) default 0 not null column holding integers |
17:04.55 | Repo | 10spell-reminder: 03oridan * r227 core.lua: SpellReminder: |
17:04.56 | Repo | - Possible fix for reported bug |
17:14.19 | harl | so.. how to solo Moragg, vh hc.. i can only get him down to like 40% with my bm hunter (341).. and then she just dies irremediably in the most literal sense, there seems to be no way to hide from the guy or avert the damage |
17:14.49 | harl | and since i'm the only one attacking him (other than my pet), he always targets me with his stupid spells |
17:16.04 | Repo | 10spell-reminder: 03oridan * r228 core.lua: SpellReminder: |
17:16.05 | Repo | - Use name as ident when translating custom groups into new format. |
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17:42.07 | arkanes | literally irrmediably? |
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18:19.36 | mmercer | hey guys, anyone know of a currently maintained minimap mod, seems like chinchilla and sexymap are both abandoned now |
18:19.54 | Stanzilla | depends on which features you need |
18:20.02 | mmercer | relocatable, square |
18:20.24 | Antiarc | sexymap works fine, it just doesn't need a lot of updates. |
18:20.42 | mmercer | kk |
18:20.47 | Stanzilla | minimapster :o |
18:23.57 | mmercer | minimapster hasnt been touched in about 18 months :p |
18:25.01 | Stanzilla | touched date does not matter |
18:25.41 | mmercer | is trying to avoid having to use the "load out of date addons" currently. will probably not be able to succeed :| |
18:29.59 | Stanzilla | open the toc file, change the number, ???, profit |
18:32.58 | Fisker | awww vhaarr you asked for my feathers |
18:33.03 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
18:34.28 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
18:35.56 | mmercer | Antiarc: what is the little golden dragon beneath sexymap? dont recall ever seeing that |
18:36.16 | Antiarc | I don't know! I'm not sure I added it! :P |
18:36.36 | Megalon | all this heying nowadays |
18:38.25 | Stanzilla | hey Megalon |
18:40.23 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
18:40.26 | Fisker | hey Megalon |
18:40.28 | Fisker | hey Antiarc |
18:53.21 | Megalon | time to dance Fisker |
18:53.29 | Fisker | why Megalon |
18:53.42 | Fisker | i also lold today Megalon |
18:53.45 | Megalon | ze dragons Fisker, ze dragons |
18:54.17 | Fisker | i don't get it? |
18:54.36 | Megalon | then you probably haven't preordered it! |
18:54.44 | Megalon | h3h3h3! |
18:54.56 | Fisker | LOL! |
18:55.11 | Fisker | shitty gaem right? |
19:00.33 | Megalon | yea |
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19:40.34 | Megalon | not a game Fisker |
19:40.35 | Megalon | a song |
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19:41.25 | Fisker | rebecca black? |
19:41.37 | Megalon | no :( |
19:41.43 | Megalon | martin's song |
19:41.47 | Megalon | hot'n'cold |
19:42.00 | Megalon | you kno |
19:42.01 | Megalon | w |
19:42.04 | Megalon | a song of ice and fire |
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20:53.17 | Pup | does anyone know how to check whether a buff on a friendly unit is castable by this player? seeing as UnitAura() appears to be broken? |
20:54.38 | arkanes | how is UnitAura broken? |
20:55.07 | Pup | easier to explain is i link http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1934584329 |
20:55.09 | Pup | if* |
20:55.16 | Pup | RAID filter doesnt work how it did pre 4.0 |
20:56.21 | Pup | i've tried posting on wow forums, talking to a GM about it, but no joy in getting someone who knows anything about it |
21:00.16 | Pup | basically, since i cant get confirmation from blizz whether its a bug or not, and less hope of getting it changed back, I'm wondering how you check for stuff like that post 4.0 |
21:00.31 | arkanes | well its easy enough to see if you can cast a buff |
21:01.00 | arkanes | but for raid buffs I'd imagine you'd want to do something more specific anyway |
21:01.26 | Pup | i just want to check a buff on a player, and know whether i can cast it or not |
21:01.37 | Pup | thats what the RAID filter did in UnitAura |
21:01.45 | Pup | if you couldnt cast it, it returned nil |
21:01.57 | arkanes | right, and its trivial to do that, just check the spell id |
21:02.05 | Pup | against? |
21:02.09 | arkanes | but that doesn't seem like a very useful thing to do |
21:02.53 | Pup | well, im looking through the buffs on all players in my raid/party/pets, and am only interested in the ones i can cast in this particular instance |
21:02.57 | arkanes | so maybe there's a better way to do what you're actually trying to do |
21:03.15 | arkanes | are you looking at raid buff coverage? |
21:03.38 | arkanes | because again there you need to handle overlapping effects and it's best to write explicit checks for them |
21:03.42 | Pup | when you say 'check the spell id', against what? you suggesting to hardcode a list of spellids that each class can cast in my addon? |
21:03.49 | arkanes | no |
21:03.58 | arkanes | that would be silly |
21:04.01 | Pup | idd |
21:04.07 | Pup | so what would i check againsy? |
21:04.21 | arkanes | the spellbook |
21:04.27 | arkanes | but what is it *for* |
21:05.01 | Pup | im displaying buffs on raid members, and im giving the option to the user to filter that list to only buffs they can cast |
21:05.34 | arkanes | okay, but whats the usefulness of that featre |
21:05.46 | arkanes | doesn't it make more sense to handle it by buff coverage instead? |
21:05.55 | Pup | buff coverage? |
21:06.02 | arkanes | kings and mark are the same buff |
21:06.04 | Pup | yes |
21:06.10 | Pup | i handle all that |
21:06.26 | arkanes | if you already handle all that, then there's no need for you to do any further filtering |
21:06.34 | Pup | umm no |
21:06.39 | arkanes | because you already know all the buffs you care about |
21:06.47 | Pup | theres many buffs that are not grouped with other ones |
21:06.58 | arkanes | there's... 2? |
21:07.06 | arkanes | dark intent and focus magic? |
21:07.08 | Pup | Well Fed |
21:07.21 | Pup | ok bad example :D |
21:07.21 | arkanes | thats not a raid buff |
21:08.00 | Pup | Retribution Aura |
21:08.45 | arkanes | you really think people need to see who their ret aura is on? |
21:08.53 | arkanes | so they can recast it, I guess? |
21:09.08 | Pup | well with auras, it would be more so you know to mnove into range |
21:09.52 | Pup | esentially, by default it shows all buffs on all players, food, elixirs, flasks, auras, raid buffs |
21:10.06 | Pup | and i used to have an option to filter that list to castable ones |
21:10.21 | Pup | i loop through each buff with UnitAura anyways as i go through |
21:10.34 | Pup | it used to work by applying the RAID filter if that option wa selected |
21:10.55 | Pup | so i only got info on the ones the user was interested in |
21:10.59 | arkanes | well, doesn't seem very useful to me, and I'd wonder if anyone actually used it |
21:11.07 | arkanes | it made more sense back when raid buffs were different |
21:11.13 | Pup | yes, many people used it |
21:11.17 | Pup | and i used it all the time |
21:11.18 | arkanes | but like I said, all you have to do is just check the spell against the spellbook |
21:11.28 | Pup | well tbh, this mode goes back to wow classic |
21:11.32 | Pup | but its evolved over time |
21:11.32 | arkanes | right |
21:11.37 | arkanes | it made plenty of sense in classic |
21:11.39 | Pup | and was rewrittedn for 2.0 |
21:11.52 | Pup | and extensively rewritten again when the buff stuff changed in LK |
21:11.53 | arkanes | but it has made less and less since since then, and doesn't make a whole lot now |
21:12.11 | Pup | it makes sense to be able to filter for buffs that you can cast |
21:12.26 | arkanes | I can't imagine why |
21:12.42 | arkanes | but I did say how |
21:12.46 | Pup | because its a mod that allows you to click the icons to recast |
21:13.16 | arkanes | so confusing |
21:13.22 | Pup | well, you suggest maintaining a list of spellids that are raid castable, rather than keep it generic and let blizz worry about that |
21:13.25 | arkanes | that means you need to set up the secure buttons ahead of time |
21:13.40 | arkanes | which means you already know what buffs they can cast and therefore you care about anyway |
21:13.49 | arkanes | and no, I clearly suggested no such thing, because that would be silly |
21:14.01 | arkanes | you check it against the spellbook with GetSpellInfo |
21:14.02 | arkanes | like I said |
21:14.56 | Pup | <arkanes> because you already know all the buffs you care about |
21:14.58 | Pup | i meant that |
21:15.00 | Pup | but anyways |
21:15.12 | Pup | ill try GetSpellInfo and see if it does what i need |
21:17.24 | Pup | i guess it's not easy trying to understand what I;m asking without seeing it in practice |
21:18.09 | arkanes | normally when you call UnitAura with a filter, it's because you're looping over buff indexes |
21:18.15 | Pup | yep |
21:18.18 | arkanes | and therefore you don't know what buffs you're going to get |
21:18.21 | arkanes | there's no need to do that anymore |
21:18.22 | Pup | idd |
21:18.31 | Pup | how come? |
21:18.38 | arkanes | because you can just check a buff by name |
21:18.46 | arkanes | UnitAura("player", "Blessing of Might") |
21:19.10 | Pup | and if i dont know the names of the buffs on a player without iterating through them? |
21:19.16 | arkanes | so when you're working from a known list of buffs you care about, which you are here, you can just check each one directly without needing to scan the indexes |
21:19.24 | arkanes | you know the ones you care about, they're the ones you set up buttons for |
21:19.29 | Pup | im not, remebember its an option |
21:19.39 | Pup | by default the mod liste every buff on a player |
21:19.42 | Pup | lists* |
21:20.11 | Pup | its possible, and probable, that the player mare care about food buffs, or flasks |
21:20.17 | Pup | may* care |
21:20.55 | arkanes | you can't have that and your click-cast buttons, though |
21:21.03 | Pup | i can, and i do |
21:21.12 | arkanes | what are you binding the buttons to, then? |
21:21.47 | Pup | SecureActionButtonTemplate |
21:22.07 | arkanes | right, and you have to create and position those ahead of time |
21:22.13 | arkanes | you can't just do it as auras change |
21:22.29 | Pup | so i iterate through all the buffs on each player, display them depending on the players options, and then lock them in place |
21:22.34 | Pup | set up the secuire actions etc |
21:22.41 | Pup | so the user can recast in combat if needed |
21:22.55 | arkanes | so your list of buffs is fixed when they enter combat? |
21:23.38 | Pup | yes, but.. if say BoK drops off, and MoTW is cast on them, the icon relights up to show its active, and the texture stays as BoK until combat ends and it gets updated |
21:24.50 | arkanes | whatever makes you happy, I guess |
21:24.53 | Pup | hm.. :D |
21:25.07 | arkanes | I have a hard time figuring out how thats supposed to actually be useful as you've described it |
21:25.16 | Pup | it makes the people that use it happy too, apatr from now that UnitAura doesnt work how it used to |
21:25.18 | arkanes | why do I want a bar for, say, a rogues stealth thats always there |
21:25.35 | Pup | maybe you dont, thats for the user to decide whats important or not |
21:25.39 | Pup | personally, |
21:25.47 | arkanes | your default mode seems useless though |
21:26.01 | Pup | because you dont see how it could be useful :D |
21:26.07 | arkanes | and you're going through contortions to make the useful parts work in terms of the useless parts |
21:26.24 | arkanes | why not just have a whitelist of buffs you care about, build the list off that, and allow the player to manage the whitelist |
21:26.29 | arkanes | and a useful set of defaults to start with |
21:26.33 | Pup | im just twanting UnitAura to work with the RAID filter .. :) |
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21:27.00 | arkanes | if you really wanted to you, you could even populate the whitelist when they join the raid or something and it'd work just like it does now |
21:27.02 | Pup | the mod has always been setup so that i dont have to manually update a list of buffs every time blizz changes something |
21:27.11 | Pup | it works as blizz changes stuff |
21:27.12 | arkanes | you do anyway |
21:27.21 | arkanes | because you have to handle raid buff overlap |
21:27.50 | Pup | i use it to monitor BoK and BoM on all the raid, and a whole plethora of buffs on myself (flask, food, other classes buffs) |
21:28.13 | Pup | but i know other users use it for many other things |
21:28.50 | Pup | the only thing i have to hardcode with regard to buffs, is which ones overlap |
21:29.02 | Pup | ie bok/motw |
21:29.15 | arkanes | well, there's not simple overlapping either |
21:29.22 | arkanes | it actually gets kinda complicated :( |
21:29.24 | Pup | well, it currently works fine |
21:29.29 | Pup | and yes, it was kinda complicated :) |
21:29.51 | Pup | the mod works fine atm, apart from an option to filter the lists to just castable buffs |
21:29.55 | arkanes | the thing is that you have 2 different features (more, really) and they don't make sense together |
21:30.04 | arkanes | but for some reason you're trying to implement them in terms of each other |
21:30.08 | arkanes | and that doesn't make sense to me |
21:30.10 | Pup | it doesnt make sense to you |
21:30.30 | arkanes | do you really create a secure action button for ever buff on every raid member? |
21:31.28 | Pup | i create a button for each one the user wants to show |
21:31.40 | arkanes | ... right |
21:31.45 | Pup | tbh |
21:31.45 | arkanes | which you create off a whitelist |
21:31.49 | Pup | no |
21:32.00 | arkanes | then how do you know what the user wants to show |
21:33.02 | Pup | tbh, i only wanted to find out how to reimplement checking for castable buffs, i think GetSpellInfo may work, so cheers for that |
21:33.22 | Pup | if you want to see how the mod works and my crappy ancient coding for you to mock, then you can freely download it :D |
21:33.31 | Pup | its called buffwatch++ |
21:33.49 | Pup | maybe then you might understand what it attempts to do :p |
21:34.09 | arkanes | you've talked about a bunch of features and they mostly make sense |
21:34.22 | arkanes | the problem is that they don't make sense when combined the way you've described |
21:34.46 | Pup | tbh, the mod has been there since 2005, and people that use it seem to find it very useful, and thats mostly what i care about :) |
21:34.50 | arkanes | binding an action button for every buff on every raid member just in case they have it set up to only show the ones they can cast isn't a very efficient way to do things |
21:34.59 | Pup | perhaps not |
21:35.09 | Pup | but tbh, my time is very limited |
21:35.13 | arkanes | and I'm sure that nobody uses that feature, because it wouldn't work |
21:35.16 | Pup | i havent really worked on this for probably over 6 months |
21:35.20 | Pup | lol |
21:35.25 | Pup | it does work |
21:35.32 | arkanes | you're mistaking my meaning |
21:35.41 | arkanes | nobody uses your click cast feature for stealth, and well fed |
21:35.47 | Pup | the mod does everything i want it to, apart from checking whether the buff is castable by this player atm |
21:35.53 | Pup | no indeed |
21:36.01 | Pup | so it may be better to nt use a secure button for those |
21:36.10 | Pup | however |
21:36.18 | arkanes | implement that kind of thing through a different code path |
21:36.20 | Pup | that just leads me back to n ot knowing which ones are castable ;) |
21:36.48 | arkanes | ultimately someone, the user or you, has to tell it |
21:37.07 | Pup | the whole secure thing, before 2.0 i dodnt have to worry about it... it was just buttons that rand some code to cast the spell |
21:37.18 | Pup | when 2.0, it was a simple case of replacing it with a secure button |
21:37.24 | arkanes | I'm sure that nobody is just sitting there with a 40 item buff list on everyone and then hunt and pecking the ones that are reaid buffs |
21:37.44 | arkanes | so anyone whos actually using that feature is almost certainly driving it off a whitelist anyway |
21:38.02 | Pup | the user gets the list of buffs, depending on the options (eg the broken RAID filter amongst others) |
21:38.18 | Pup | and then decides of the ones that are left, if theres any he wants to remove |
21:38.23 | Pup | and the user does so manually |
21:38.35 | Pup | the idea eventually is to allow the user to setup a list of templates |
21:38.51 | Pup | to make that process quicker, but generally, once you have locked down what you want. you tend to leave it |
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21:49.05 | harl | yes, arkanes. |
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21:54.36 | arkanes | harl: eh? |
21:55.00 | harl | huh? |
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