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| 04:06.10 | bluspacecow | http://antivirus.about.com/b/2011/06/22/curse-com-ad-on-woes.htm |
| 04:06.16 | bluspacecow | in truth in these allegations ? |
| 04:25.40 | Torhal|work | We were hacked, period. This person is either paranoid or an asshole. |
| 04:25.55 | Torhal|work | bluspacecow: ^^ |
| 04:26.11 | Torhal|work | She makes it seem as if we're intentionally infecting people. |
| 04:26.12 | Torhal|work | Gah. |
| 04:27.57 | bluspacecow | so its probably not true |
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| 04:28.11 | bluspacecow | if it is it would be out of your guys ontrol anyway if its in the ad network ? |
| 04:42.46 | Trela | bluspacecow: Pretty much. We do report bad advertisements and have controls to block providers. |
| 04:42.55 | bluspacecow | thanks |
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| 04:44.19 | Shefki | After attending Brevard College, Mary pursued courses in BASIC programming, DBase, and C++. |
| 04:45.02 | Shefki | Obviously the anti-virus expert's first language to list on their resume is BASIC. |
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| 04:58.52 | Galvin | Been a lot of hacking going on this year. |
| 04:59.35 | Torhal|work | Indeed, Shefki. |
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| 11:04.43 | vhaarr | but I guess you guys know already :P |
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| 11:41.56 | vhaarr | they are running readonly atm |
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| 13:08.11 | Adirelle|work | Hi |
| 13:08.41 | Adirelle|work | I was hoping for more information about "critical hardware failure" in the channel topic but this isn't the case |
| 13:08.48 | Adirelle|work | so, 'sup ? |
| 13:13.10 | Myrroddin | i don't have any new info either :( |
| 13:13.56 | Myrroddin | and i'm a moderator |
| 13:15.50 | bluspacecow | as a moderator do you know any if anything this arcticle here says is true : http://antivirus.about.com/b/2011/06/22/curse-com-ad-on-woes.htm#gB3 |
| 13:16.17 | Myrroddin | let me read it and get back to you |
| 13:16.29 | sbu | well... there are flash vulnerabilities, and they do appear from 3rd party advertisers - so.. *Shrug* why not? |
| 13:16.44 | sbu | use antivirus/antimalware and keep your flash/browser up2date |
| 13:16.53 | sbu | you should do that anyways |
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| 13:21.44 | Myrroddin | bluespacecow, i can tell you that whoever wrote that article is really good at believing his or her own BS. Curse is not a "direct ad network", it is a privately held company. the advertisements "hosted" on curse are not, in fact, hosted on curse. they are hosted by other parties, either the ad companies or the companies who hire the advertisers |
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| 13:22.40 | bluspacecow | but once you find which ad is "apparently" has the keylogger on it you can block the provider |
| 13:22.44 | sbu | Myrroddin: but that means those ad could contain flash exploits - yes, its not curse's fault, but still could happen :p |
| 13:22.47 | Myrroddin | yes, there is/was a vulnerbility in Flash, but everybody should be updating Flash often, because adobe has been having security issues for a year and a half |
| 13:23.14 | bluspacecow | its just that some of the tech support regs are pointing to June 15th that they got a new strain of the fake MSN messager virus |
| 13:23.34 | Myrroddin | yes, when we find out, the curse staff (that would be people paid by curse, not us volunteer moderators) pull those ads |
| 13:24.38 | Myrroddin | and yes, people have been spammed by spammers, myself and a few curse personnel included. but to the best of my knowledge, no hack has occured in the DB, and the client remains secure |
| 13:25.28 | Myrroddin | mind you, have you looked at the addon packs? everybody is saying "hey pack author, give me your WTF folder. here's my EMAIL" -- and the spammers read that |
| 13:26.02 | Myrroddin | also, there is yet another fake curse site going out in Google searches |
| 13:26.22 | Myrroddin | i'd link that to you, but you don't want to click it, obviously |
| 13:26.44 | bluspacecow | i dunno |
| 13:26.47 | bluspacecow | might feel kinky :) |
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| 13:27.46 | Myrroddin | no clicky on the bad links! bad links are bad |
| 13:28.28 | Myrroddin | but i just did a google search for "curse addons" and the eighth result is suspicious |
| 13:29.04 | Myrroddin | there is no curse site called "curseaddons.net" |
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| 13:29.26 | Nechckn | But, but... I like to believe that nEt is an evil overlord and did this all on purpose, Myrroddin |
| 13:30.04 | Myrroddin | he might be. i've never asked him, because he might be LOL |
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| 13:31.08 | Nechckn | Good point... Pointy-Hairred Boss has been confirmed, so that would be the next step. =) |
| 13:32.35 | Myrroddin | it's strange. usually i come home, moderate the curse forums, play some rift, go to bed. but since the hardware failed yesterday, i'm a little out of sorts |
| 13:33.04 | arkanes | I don't know about the windows client, but the OS X client uses an embedded safari instances to display adds, including flash ones |
| 13:33.51 | arkanes | so if a malicious flash add does make it into the ad network, then the client could be a point of infection even if you use flashblock and whatnot in your main browser |
| 13:34.26 | Myrroddin | doesn't flashblock just block the whole thing? |
| 13:34.34 | sbu | not inside the curse client |
| 13:34.36 | arkanes | and I'd say that curse does have a responsibility to prevent malicious flash ads from entering its network, although expecting 100% perfection isn't realistic |
| 13:34.39 | sbu | so update flash and its fine :p |
| 13:34.47 | sbu | + use proper antivirus/antimalware |
| 13:34.57 | Myrroddin | i wonder what would happen if you uninstalled flash. what would the site and client look like? |
| 13:35.40 | arkanes | Myrroddin: I actually have flash disabled in safari, and so I just get the plugin gear when the curse client wants to show a flash ad |
| 13:35.50 | Myrroddin | the client is a dotnet app, so should continue to work. and i doubt the site is so dependent on flash it would fail to load |
| 13:36.14 | Myrroddin | well there you go |
| 13:36.25 | arkanes | thats on OS X though and it's a different codebase |
| 13:36.50 | arkanes | I'm assuming they use a browser instance in order to be able to re-use the same javascript based stuff that they let advertisers use |
| 13:36.58 | Myrroddin | you can turn off flash in any windows browser |
| 13:37.18 | arkanes | I know |
| 13:37.32 | arkanes | I'm saying the behavior of the OS X curse client doesn't neccesarily relfect the behavior of the Windows curse client |
| 13:37.49 | arkanes | but I suspect it is the same |
| 13:38.04 | Myrroddin | probably |
| 13:38.59 | Wobin | Mary Landesman is an antivirus professional with several years of experience in virus research, virus prevention and virus detection techniques. |
| 13:39.35 | Nechckn | And studied BASIC, do not forget, Wobin ;-) |
| 13:40.08 | Wobin | -and- dBase! |
| 13:40.30 | Nechckn | Yeah, I actually loled last night on that experience listing. |
| 13:41.18 | Wobin | It's a fraction bizzare to put it in there |
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| 13:41.41 | Wobin | except it's basically saying she didn't do computers in college, only after |
| 13:41.48 | Myrroddin | I blame Ackis |
| 13:41.51 | Nechckn | Indeed - was not sure if it was meant as a joke or what... |
| 13:42.37 | Nechckn | Not to say that you *need* college to be a whiz at really anything, but the information listed was just very odd to me. |
| 13:43.01 | Nechckn | That sounds reasonable, Myrroddin |
| 13:43.21 | Wobin | she appears to have the background required to talk about security though |
| 13:43.55 | Wobin | but she appears not to have the full information about the situation |
| 13:44.06 | Wobin | cause why, would you write an article like that |
| 13:44.14 | Wobin | and -not- have feedback from Curse? |
| 13:44.26 | arkanes | cause pageviews |
| 13:44.27 | Wobin | even a "A curse representative could not be contacted for response" |
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| 13:44.34 | arkanes | or whatevs |
| 13:44.58 | arkanes | she's probably just mad that she can't get her addons updated in the run up to 4.2 |
| 13:45.16 | Myrroddin | maybe not a staffer, but did she read ANY of the moderator answers? |
| 13:45.17 | Nechckn | Ha! could be |
| 13:45.19 | arkanes | and since she can't do that, she figures she may as well make a couple bucks by slapping up a post |
| 13:45.56 | Wobin | also, god damn you woman, don't partially capitalise 'curse.com' sometimes and 'Curse.com' other times |
| 13:46.37 | Myrroddin | i do find the spam in my email annoying, but that article jumped to lots of conclusions based on little to no facts |
| 13:46.45 | Wobin | anyway |
| 13:46.54 | sbu | there are no pictures and since this is the interweb - she can't be female then! |
| 13:46.59 | Wobin | I suggest someone in Curse respond to that with a reasoned post =P |
| 13:47.28 | Wobin | cause the rest of us are just through hearsay |
| 13:47.31 | Nechckn | Or just make up stuff about how she works for the competition, that could be fun, too |
| 13:47.34 | Myrroddin | LOL the only fact I read was yes, people get spam. well, duh. welcome to the internet, please enjoy your stay.... |
| 13:48.58 | Wobin | although - On June 15th, Curse.com finally acknowledged the intrusion - but with the excuse that "It's all too easy for hackers to get into any database." |
| 13:49.01 | Wobin | is a bit odd |
| 13:49.13 | Wobin | as it implies a security breach of internal information |
| 13:49.32 | sbu | but more important: when will curse.com (and others) be back online? :o |
| 13:50.22 | Myrroddin | i'd love to answer that, cuz i want to poke around on curse, but i honestly have no idea |
| 13:50.50 | Myrroddin | i have MOAR Rift addons to write! |
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| 13:51.37 | quiescens | moo? |
| 13:51.44 | Ackis | Wobin: blame gnomes |
| 13:51.51 | Wobin | how's the Rift API? |
| 13:51.56 | Ackis | incomplete |
| 13:52.04 | Myrroddin | but looking good |
| 13:52.20 | quiescens | what be happening? |
| 13:52.40 | Ackis | its under development by someone we know and love |
| 13:52.48 | quiescens | what is? |
| 13:52.59 | Ackis | Addon API for RIft |
| 13:53.15 | Wobin | who be that? |
| 13:53.17 | quiescens | oh, never played that |
| 13:53.27 | arkanes | jimi hendrix?!?! |
| 13:53.50 | Myrroddin | Justin Bieber? |
| 13:54.25 | Myrroddin | oh, wait, you said "someone we know and LOVE"... that discounts biebs |
| 13:54.37 | bluspacecow | not bewbs tho |
| 13:54.38 | Megalon | that discounts pretty much anyone in this channel |
| 13:54.44 | Ackis | Zorba is the developer Wobin |
| 13:55.12 | Myrroddin | yeah, funny that. Zorba isn't in this channel! LOL |
| 13:55.26 | Megalon | I guess he knows why ;( |
| 13:56.42 | Megalon | mhm, if a modern sisyphos would be a man who wants to watch all youtube videos, would that make tityos one that HAS to watch all of them? |
| 13:56.50 | Adirelle|work | Wobin, " On June 15th, Curse.com finally acknowledged the intrusion", well, based on the "screenshot or it didn't happen" paradigm, where is her source ? |
| 13:56.55 | Ackis | http://forums.riftgame.com/showthread.php?204383-Example-addons&p=2566761&viewfull=1#post2566761 best post on addon forums IMO |
| 13:57.19 | Wobin | Adirelle|work: there's much lacking in terms of source. |
| 13:57.33 | quiescens | gasp |
| 13:57.37 | Wobin | but aside from the one link I can't follow, cause Curse is down... |
| 13:57.47 | Adirelle|work | Wobin, my point exactly, even with her solid virus background, this post just looks like a piece of BS |
| 13:57.52 | arkanes | you can't download stuff without signing in |
| 13:57.59 | arkanes | more evidence of keylogger, imo |
| 13:58.15 | Ackis | what's the link to that article again? |
| 13:58.28 | Adirelle|work | http://antivirus.about.com/b/2011/06/22/curse-com-ad-on-woes.htm#gB3 |
| 13:58.52 | bluspacecow | "Keylogger IMO." lolz ackis ! |
| 13:59.30 | Megalon | but with the excuse that "It's all too easy for hackers to get into any database." |
| 13:59.32 | Megalon | wait what |
| 13:59.52 | Megalon | how's that an excuse for getting hacked, wtf :o |
| 14:00.13 | Myrroddin | the way i see it is if hackers can shut Sony down for a month, then anything is possible |
| 14:00.15 | arkanes | "ike the malicious Flash ad, the backdoor/downloader trojan was also hosted on curse.com's very own site." needs some evidence |
| 14:00.54 | Myrroddin | since the only ads that are hosted on curse are curse ads, like the please get premium stuff |
| 14:00.54 | Wobin | this is why I think a curse employee needs to lay out the facts |
| 14:01.09 | Wobin | any post from anyone else will just look like rabid fanboiism =P |
| 14:01.18 | Ackis | comment #5 is pretty good on that site |
| 14:01.45 | Adirelle|work | comment #5 ? |
| 14:01.52 | Wobin | Ackis: are you the Queen of England? =P |
| 14:01.54 | Adirelle|work | only got 4 there |
| 14:02.09 | Wobin | refresh, Adirelle|work |
| 14:02.53 | Adirelle|work | ah |
| 14:03.08 | Adirelle|work | first refresh didn't catch it |
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| 14:21.46 | quiescens | moo |
| 14:22.25 | Myrroddin | moo? |
| 14:24.07 | quiescens | moo. |
| 14:24.50 | Myrroddin | moo! |
| 14:25.51 | Mikk | http://antivirus.about.com/b/2011/06/22/curse-com-ad-on-woes.htm <- comment #6 by moi |
| 14:38.48 | Adirelle|work | Mikk, that's indeed looks for a fault, but not for a hack... |
| 14:39.08 | Adirelle|work | e.g. passwords were never compromised according to your post |
| 14:39.31 | Mikk | i actually have no authority to say anything about curse being hacked or not. at all. |
| 14:39.41 | Mikk | i'm just making an obvious observation |
| 14:39.59 | Adirelle|work | anyway she hasn't either |
| 14:40.06 | Mikk | quite |
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| 14:58.41 | quiescens | o.o |
| 14:58.51 | quiescens | but its more fun to make sensational claims |
| 14:59.12 | quiescens | sensational claims are so much easier to propagate than a quiet voice of reason |
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| 15:47.24 | Megalon | Fisker |
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| 16:16.43 | neoark | any updates? |
| 16:24.29 | prencher | neoark: progressing... slowly |
| 16:37.04 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 17:10.36 | *** topic/#wowace by Ackis -> http://www.wowace.com | http://paste.wowace.com | http://twitter.com/WowAcecom | http://lua.org | Recent changes: http://kb.wowace.com/recent-changes/ | Curse Client v4: http://www.curse.com/client | WoWInterface Minion: http://minion.mmoui.com/ | 4.1 ToC is 40100 - 4.2 is 40200 | Curse Downtime explained: http://bit.ly/ioCGIi |
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| 17:37.58 | *** topic/#wowace by Ackis -> http://www.wowace.com | http://paste.wowace.com | http://twitter.com/WowAcecom | http://lua.org | Recent changes: http://kb.wowace.com/recent-changes/ | Curse Client v4: http://www.curse.com/client | WoWInterface Minion: http://minion.mmoui.com/ | 4.1 ToC is 40100 - 4.2 is 40200 |
| 17:38.14 | Ackis | 11:21prencherI'll also note that the reddit post linked in the topic is not accurate as to what's actually going on. The SAN is fine, we had a hardware failure that was corrected, the issue is the time it's taking for the NAS to check it's partitions |
| 17:46.19 | bluspacecow | wheres that posted ackis ? |
| 17:51.39 | Gnarfoz | reddit |
| 17:52.00 | bluspacecow | erm which article ? the one that was posted before ? |
| 17:52.54 | prencher | I posted that in #curseforge |
| 17:53.07 | bluspacecow | oh! |
| 17:53.10 | bluspacecow | hai2u! |
| 17:53.53 | mckenziemc | slaps bluspacecow around a bit with a large coconut |
| 17:54.07 | bluspacecow | ooooo you kinky manbeast you |
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| 17:57.41 | bluspacecow | @prencher would it help if you hit it ? |
| 17:58.58 | prencher | I punched our sysadmin |
| 17:59.00 | prencher | he was not amused |
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| 18:27.03 | harl|etj | people are sooo wannabe-knowledgable and -nitpicky these days anyway, they often really believe they know how something works just because they heard someone mentioning it at a bar and then start to technobabble all about it. d'oh. |
| 18:32.58 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 18:33.24 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 18:34.27 | harl|etj | huh? |
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| 20:16.52 | harl|wok | why does GetUnitName() add spaces between the character'sname, the hyphen and the realm'sname? |
| 20:17.01 | harl|wok | it seems inconvenient.. |
| 20:17.39 | sylvanaar_work | it is |
| 20:18.06 | harl|wok | :/ |
| 20:18.21 | sylvanaar_work | that is why you dont use the combined name |
| 20:19.34 | sylvanaar_work | !api getunitname |
| 20:19.34 | lua_bot | GetUnitName: Returns a string summarizing a unit's name and server (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetUnitName) |
| 20:19.58 | sylvanaar_work | local Name, Server = UnitName("player") |
| 20:20.50 | nebula169 | just a convenience function blizzard uses the its raid frames |
| 20:20.56 | nebula169 | for its* |
| 20:21.27 | sylvanaar_work | !api UnitName |
| 20:21.29 | lua_bot | UnitName: Returns the name of a unit (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitName) |
| 20:24.34 | harl|wok | hmm.. i'll see if i can fit that into my macro |
| 20:27.04 | Primer | speaking of raid frames, I'm curious as to why PitBull shows erroneous values for power (mana) for raid members when they're far away, but when I target them, they're fine |
| 20:27.30 | Elkano | hmm... how high is the chance to end up with a guild mate in the same dungeon group if you didn't queue together? ^^ |
| 20:28.13 | Primer | it's actually rather good, as the game tries to get people from your own realm first |
| 20:29.05 | Elkano | sounds reasonable, but was still funny ^^ |
| 20:32.28 | harl|wok | i guess i'll have to make a small passive addon out of that macro |
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| 20:39.04 | Primer | yay, "Site Maintenance" |
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| 21:12.32 | sylvanaar_work | harl|wok: your other option: plr, svr = arg2:match("([^%-]+)%-?(.*)") |
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| 21:33.59 | sylvanaar_work | oh right, arg2 didnt have spaces |
| 21:35.24 | sylvanaar_work | plr, svr = arg2:match("([^%-]+)%s?%-?%s?(.*)") |
| 21:35.27 | sylvanaar_work | whee |
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| 21:37.41 | sylvanaar_work | lol, that is still wrong - yuck |
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| 22:16.03 | harl|wok | uhm |
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| 22:17.46 | harl|wok | i just do c,r=unitname(u) and then if (r~="") add the slash otherwise don't |
| 22:18.52 | harl|wok | somehow GetLocale() fails on me though. too confusing. |
| 22:23.30 | harl|wok | i can getlocale ingame just fine to get my locale, but when i do if (GetLocale() == "frFR") then Crack else Do_Something end, Do_Something is never done |
| 22:23.53 | harl|wok | my local isn't frFR, so whatever is in the else part should be done, but it's not. |
| 22:23.57 | harl|wok | *locale |
| 22:25.55 | stencil | is it executing the frFR case? or is it possible its trying to do the Do_Something but that its failing there |
| 22:26.55 | harl|wok | if i completeley remove the if-then-else and just keep Do_Something, it's done.. and it's not trying to do what's in the frFR case, because that is actually the same |
| 22:28.08 | stencil | so neither the if case nor the else case are executing? |
| 22:28.15 | harl|wok | yes |
| 22:29.16 | stencil | then I'd think you're never actually getting to that if statement ... that the code isn't running at all ... |
| 22:30.18 | stencil | this is usually the point I start throwing print statements so that I can be sure whats running and what various local values are |
| 22:30.18 | harl|wok | but it should. i get an error that the variable that should be set inside the if is missing from a line after the if |
| 22:30.45 | stencil | is this a scoping issue? |
| 22:30.47 | harl|wok | hm, debugging sounds great |
| 22:30.55 | stencil | do you need to declare the variable as local before the if? |
| 22:32.06 | harl|wok | no, the if statement is the first thing in the function. it should declare the variable either way, so that it would be available to the rest of the function. |
| 22:34.07 | stencil | but if the variable is declared inside the if or else statement it may be scoped to that only right? |
| 22:34.30 | stencil | and not exist outside of that block for the rest of the function |
| 22:34.39 | harl|wok | i don't know. does if work that way in lua? |
| 22:35.15 | harl|wok | it's the if statement that's causing the variable to disappear at its end then |
| 22:35.51 | stencil | just did this on the command line, got nil was printed out: /run if (true) then local foo="cow" end print(foo) |
| 22:36.09 | harl|wok | i see. i probably should declare the variable before the if then |
| 22:36.32 | stencil | if I omit the word local, then it might work ... just because I'd be setting foo in the global table, but you don't really want to do that |
| 22:37.04 | stencil | so, before the if statement, set up the local variables you want to use in that statement and you should be okay |
| 22:38.04 | stencil | note - this even works: /run local foo=nil; if (true) then foo="cow" end print(foo) |
| 22:39.24 | stencil | even though foo was initialized to nil (which might make you think that it wouldn't really exist as a variable) it did whatever was needed in terms of scoping for it all to work right |
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| 23:59.42 | harl|wok | yep, that works. |