IRC log for #wowace on 20110502

00:03.51Repo10utopia: 03ywfn * r238 data.lua:
00:03.52RepoCorrected Critical Mass debuff spellID and Dalaran Brilliance
00:03.53Repo(alternate of Arcane Brilliance) buff spellID
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00:24.03TalrynHas anyone figured out what skill level archaeology is required to do the Cache of Madness in ZG?
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00:35.25pompyTalryn: http://www.wowhead.com/npc=52271#comments:id=1403874
00:35.53TalrynOk, thank you.
00:36.03pompyhttp://www.wowhead.com/npc=52271#comments:id=1405726
00:36.11TalrynI tried searching and never found it, guess I missed that.
00:36.12pompyi guess thats ur official answer
00:37.03TalrynUsually have someone with max'd archaeology but in a couple PUGs I've had people claim they had a low archaeology but then they started it up.
00:37.13pompyso 225 or 425 ;)
00:37.26TalrynFairly sure it is less than 425 though :-)
00:37.38TalrynSo I'm going to say 225 until I can prove otherwise
00:38.28pompyi guess thats blizzards way of saying "yeah we know archaeology is a bitch to level so we will let you start a level 85 heroic event with low level archaeology"
00:38.30pompy:x
00:38.56TalrynSame issues with fishing before
00:39.40TalrynAlthough it could be tough on groups as more alts are running it so less people have leveled up archaeology.
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01:12.07mckenziemcsoooooo
01:12.37mckenziemclocks can't summon party members to teh group (if one person's left at teh entrance) anymore?
01:13.04mckenziemcrandom dungeon
01:13.27mckenziemc"You can't do that in an LFG Dungeon."
01:44.34Wobinorly?
01:44.40WobinI wonder why they implemented that
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01:44.59WobinI guess there might be cross server issues
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01:58.33DWSRwobin: It worked for me today.
01:58.39DWSRthought, the person summoning me was from my realm.
02:02.17DWSRWhere's the article on LFD queues looking inside your own realm now?
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02:12.07mckenziemcwhat?
02:13.03SinusPihmm. The new Astrolabe can't plot a line from Stormwind to Twilight Highlands... wonder why...
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02:29.14SinusPiah-ha, wrong zoning. Okay, bummer...
02:41.44Repo10extractor: 03Zhinjio * r53 / (4 files in 1 directory): Extractor :
02:41.46Repo- Added LDBIcon support
02:41.47Repo- Bumped TOC for 4.1
02:41.48Repo- Adding fix for secondary tooltip release (bug 13)
02:58.58Repo10extractor: 03Zhinjio 042.1.2-release * r54 : Tagging as 2.1.2-release
02:59.44pompy"nbc news has confirmed osama bin laden is dead"
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03:19.24Repo10professionsvault: 03oscarucb 044.5 beta 1 * r225 : Tagging as 4.5 beta 1
03:19.25RepoFixes a bug with the link button on self professions
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03:37.51Repo10grid2: 03michaelspain 06michaeln * r634 / (6 files in 4 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
03:37.52RepoFix, correctly update inner border and content texture size of all frames, when profile is changed.
03:37.53RepoFix a crash in Grid2Options on profile changes (bug introduced on recent changes).
03:37.54RepoFix a crash bug in Grid2Options:AddElementSubTypeGroup
03:37.56RepoFreeLayout more changes.
03:47.23Repo10macro-bank: 03Odlaw * r60 / (3 files in 1 directory): - toc update
03:47.24Repo- change how macros are sent to other macrobank users
03:49.03mckenziemchttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2456448634?page=2#28 owned
03:54.23SinusPiHmmmm. Any idea how I could force an update of GetCurrentMapDungeonLevel() without showing/hiding the map frame..?  GetCurrentMapDungeonLevel() doesn't really stay up to date if the map is hidden...
03:57.56mckenziemci have minimal experience in this area, but maybe you could temporarily disable the map frame's Show function (if that doesn't prevent you from getting the info)
04:00.39SinusPidisable the Show function..? Why would I do that..? You mean disable its OnShow handler..?
04:01.46SinusPiIt's not like GetCurrentMapDungeonLevel() opens the worldmap, no no.  It gets old info, unless the map is always onscreen.  So, to get CORRECT GetCurrentMapDungeonLevel() reading, I'd have to show and hide the map - but that might cause bad FPS hits.
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04:20.29Arrowmasterjust call SetMapToCurrentZone()
04:22.59pompywhoever hasnt picked it up yet, http://tinyurl.com/3dy6apw
04:28.31Wobinpompy: don't be silly, who wouldn't have already purchased that game?
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04:32.48pompyheh
04:33.13pompyyeah i have it for 360 but i want it for the pc too lol.. so thats pretty cool its $30
04:33.42Zhinjiosteam preorder ftw
04:34.09pompywasnt the preorder $55?
04:34.29pompyi mean $45
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04:49.55Zhinjiothey could have made it $100, and I still would have bought it.
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05:43.42ausmaraYou'd pay $100 for a mediocre 8 hour performance?
05:43.49ausmaraI'd love to see what you'd pay for a bad whore :p
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08:42.39Repo10talented: 03jerry * r730 / (3 files in 2 directories): Talented: Fix 4.1 compatibility (including Ticket 159)
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10:01.33Repo10tourguide-tradeskill: 03Satisfyme * r53 / (12 files in 4 directories): Uploading work so far
10:23.15[Ammo]for you SSD crazies out there: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2011/05/the-hot-crazy-solid-state-drive-scale.html
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10:31.44sylvanaar_workmine are still going 2 years later
10:32.26sylvanaar_workWTB http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004QJM1HG
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11:09.37Repo10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r483 Core.lua: RaidBuffStatus:
11:09.38Repo- Auto-invite is no longer on by default.  Users will have to switch it on.
11:09.40Repo- Auto-invite now will detect if the player is in a LFG or battlefield queue and reject invites.
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12:05.43Repo10cooldowncount: 03kiki * r98 / (3 files in 1 directory):
12:05.44Repo- Added possibility to blacklist frames of your choosing (from command line)
12:05.45Repo- New command line options: use /cc or /cooldowncount
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12:08.13Repo10cooldowncount: 03kiki 04v3.7 * r99 : Tagging as v3.7
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12:36.38Repo10fragile3: 03Dridzt * r7 / (2 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 6 lines)
12:36.39RepoVersion 3.08-40100
12:36.40Repo- bugfix role detection error when leaving BG or RDF group early
12:36.41Repo- library updates
12:36.42Repo- .toc update, compatible with WoW 4.1
12:40.34Repo10chat-sounds: 03Dridzt * r50 / (2 files in 1 directory): - toc update, compatible with WoW 4.1
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13:04.03Repomitch0: http://www.wowace.com/addons/fragile3/. Fragile3. Game: WoW. Dridzt (Manager/Author). Updated: 26 minutes ago
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14:38.19Repo10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 07master * v3.1.1b / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
14:38.20Repof0c6fbd: Update version to 3.1.1b as a beta release.
14:38.21Repoddc10f6: Attempt to fix issue where some players are unable to see any threat text on the bars until the current profile or TPS option is changed.
14:38.28Repo10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 04v3.1.1b * 662b95c /: [new tag] Tag beta release v3.1.1b
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16:13.43Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r3379 / (4 files in 4 directories): Final prep for 6.03.01
16:15.17Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol 04v6.03.01 * r3380 : Tagging as v6.03.01
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16:45.12mckenziemchey sapu, is there a way to change profiles in TradeSkillMaster_Mailing? i'm trying to use it temporarily as a way to clear bag space (i haven't auctioned anything in months so i'm having a storage crisis) but i don't have a character slot for a bank character, so even if i send everything to that one character, i'd like some way (eg. profile changing) to have that character able to clear their own bags by sending to a diffe
16:45.50mckenziemci realize that's not the intent of the addon but i haven't found anything that works better :(
16:46.04Repo10moncaiqt: 03Moncai * r45 / (4 files in 1 directory): Fixes for 4.1.0
16:46.56mckenziemc"to that one character" should be "to one character"
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16:56.06Adirelle~seen ethancentaurai
16:56.09purlethancentaurai <~ethan@92.24.184.46> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 48d 37m 36s ago, saying: '~seen Dolby'.
16:56.27mckenziemc:O
16:56.30Adirellewe ne to go deeper...
16:56.33Adirelleneed*
16:56.41Adirelle~seen Dolby
16:56.41purldolby is currently on #wowuidev, last said: 'android was slow'.
16:56.49Adirellethat's disappointing
16:57.01mckenziemc~seen mckenziemc
16:57.02purlmckenziemc is currently on #wowace (2h 7m 32s) #curseforge (2h 7m 32s). Has said a total of 5 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen mckenziemc'.
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17:17.41Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r936 ZulGurub/Jindo.lua:
17:17.42RepoBail out if we can't determine the target (#46), hopefully it's a timing issue
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17:34.13mckenziemc~cattlebrand
17:34.14purlACTION brands quiescens.
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17:40.29Repo10ipop-bar: 03Xinhuan * r92 IPopBar.lua:
17:40.30RepoFix the error that occurs on mouseover of the toggle button that shows the current active action bar number.
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17:43.54Repo10ipop-bar: 03Xinhuan * r93 / (2 files in 1 directory): Update version to v3.11.
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17:44.48Repo10ipop-bar: 03Xinhuan 04v3.11 * r94 : Tag release v3.11.
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17:54.07Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r937 ZulGurub/Venoxis.lua: Icon marking for Toxic Link
17:54.45quiescens):
17:54.56quiescensstupid router seems to have broken its wireless
17:55.02quiescensblames mckenziemc
17:55.10nevcairielplug the wire back in
17:55.35quiescensi don't understand why its doing this ):
17:56.37durcynif i had to guess, i'd say it's doing it because it has 'linksys' written on it
17:56.44mckenziemc:O
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18:04.54Primerhttp://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/173086/getplayermapposition-broken-in-41
18:05.05Primerlet's hope they get it right
18:05.41Zynin 4.3
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18:14.21Repo10little-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r938 ZulGurub/Zanzil.lua: Lil debug.
18:17.11quiescensblahh
18:19.09Sapumckenziemc, not really...trying to think if I know a way of doing what you described...
18:25.41Sapuyou can just mail everything to another character and leave it all in the mailbox until you need it (for a month at least)
18:30.11Repo10moncaiqt: 03Moncai * r46 WatchFrame.lua: Added LinkButton Tango to fix achievement tracking
18:35.51Repo10moncaiqt: 03Moncai 04v4.1.0-beta * r47 : Tagging as v4.1.0-beta
18:41.59Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r939 ZulGurub/Jindo.lua: Use the Spirit Warrior's Gaze aura to warn for Body Slam
18:49.59Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r940 ZulGurub (2 files in 1 directory): Zanzil - Take a stab at using aura for pursuit
18:50.00RepoJindo - use correct player param
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18:58.23mckenziemcthe problem is their mailboxes are already full of stale stuff :p
18:58.41mckenziemci did a search and replace on the lua file, it'll work for now
18:59.13mckenziemci plan to either write an addon specifically to use the mailboxes as storage, or get this stuff sold so i don't need it anymore
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18:59.40mckenziemc"need it" referring to the planned addon
19:02.03Megalonjust let it fisker away in them mailboxes!
19:03.02mckenziemci almost lost 4 packages today O.o
19:03.52mckenziemcsomehow i hadn't checked one char's mail in a month and she had 4 packages that had 16 hours left before they got deleted (NOT returned, i'd sent them to a different char 2 months ago and they'd already been returned
19:03.55mckenziemc)
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19:05.10Studdly1Question: There use to be a addon that showed tons of small sq on your screen kinda like a grid
19:05.16Studdly1anyone know the name?
19:05.52mojosdojo-Is it a unitframe addon or something els?
19:06.43Studdly1It would just overlay the whole screen with a grid so you could move a item and get it perfectly center
19:07.35StanzillaStuddly1: align
19:08.07Studdly1Ya thanks
19:08.51mckenziemcLineEmUp is a similar one that lets you place lines at custom places
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19:33.07mckenziemcdoh
19:33.13Ackisasdf
19:33.15Sapuyea mckenziemc an addon that could manage using the mailbox as storage could be cool...especially if it could tell you when stuff is about to be destroyed
19:33.29mckenziemci get back to my computer a second before the afk logout happens :(
19:34.37mckenziemcaltoholic tells me when mail's about to expire / get returned, but most of the time when it tells me (ie. when logging into one character) i dont' feel like taking care of it
19:35.14mckenziemcplus coordination is almost overwhelming with the number of characters i have :(
19:35.38Sapuheh
19:36.14SapuI'm OCD about having my mailbox be empty so I just have my own 3 tab gbank :P
19:36.28mckenziemci have 6 guild banks D:
19:36.35Sapuand a lot of inscription bags
19:36.44Sapux.x
19:40.14mckenziemchello Cairenn
19:40.29Cairennhi mckenziemc
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19:44.57mckenziemcgah, i really wish there was an option to have new addons disabled by default
19:45.30nevcairielwhat would that be good for. usually you want to use it if you install it
19:45.46mckenziemcnot on every character
19:45.55mckenziemcit has to be manually reset for each account and realm
19:47.10mckenziemci usually remember for the first login, but forget when i switch accounts or realms :(
19:48.15HirsuteWell, you could edit the TOCs, but you'd have to redo that every time you updated the addons.
19:49.15mckenziemcand if i have an addon set (eg. altoholic) disabled on some characters, but a new module gets added when i update from curse, the module tries to load without the rest of the set
19:49.50durcynyour life must be so hard
19:50.36mckenziemcunwarranted
19:53.04arkaneswhy would the module try to load, unless you don't have the deps set right
19:53.39mckenziemcit happens
19:53.40arkanesif you've got altoholic installed but disabled, and you install altoholic-stripperboots, the missing dep will keep it from loading
19:54.07mckenziemcassuming the author doesn't mess up
19:54.25mckenziemckeep in mind that was just an example of an addon with a new module
19:55.05mckenziemcshouldn't happen =/= won't happen
19:55.05arkanesjust send the author a PM
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19:55.15arkanes"hey jerkface, set your dependencies correctly"
19:55.19kadrahil!=, not =/=
19:55.22kadrahilget it right
19:55.44arkanesif you've got an example of it happening when its *not* the dependency thing, I'd like to see it
19:58.30mckenziemcthat's inconsequential anyway, arkanes
19:58.41mckenziemcit could happen, whether i can provide an example or not
19:59.05mckenziemci'm not up to searching through my addons right now, and that's not the only reason i'd like the option, anyway
20:00.16arkaneswell, it could happen, but then again whatever option you want could be ignored also
20:00.39arkanesalso wow could turn in to a purple mushroom and sing the badger song
20:01.27mckenziemcdon't be stupid, arkanes
20:01.58mckenziemcthe point is it would be a convenience. unnecessary, but still a convenience
20:02.03arkanesyou want a feature because you've imagined a scenario where a different feature fails to work for no reason
20:02.13mckenziemcthat was one example
20:02.26mckenziemcand it's not imaginaton, it could well happen
20:02.39mckenziemcas you've stated, it could be fixed, but the inconvenience would have already happened
20:02.46arkanessigh
20:02.49mckenziemcyou're getting sidetracked on an inconsequential point
20:02.50arkanesyes, clearly I am the stupid one here
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20:07.23Repo10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 07master * v1.2.9 / (4 files in 3 directories): [+4 commits]
20:07.25Repo45178a7: update toc to 40100
20:07.29Repo0d262f8: reran miner
20:07.30Repo1eff2c0: Added ZG, ZA maps and Bosses Updated Miner to account for Edge of Madness Ran Miner to pick up 4.1 Loot some ZA bosses loot tables are still empty (waiting on wowhead) Added most BC era maps
20:07.31Repo761a457: starting to see more and more drop percentages from wowhead (miner run)
20:07.38Repo10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 04v1.2.9 * d428831 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.2.9
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20:32.23boombooevening, anyone I can poke about something to do with frames/levels etc.
20:33.42mckenziemcask your question, someone will help you if they can
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20:36.08boombootrouble is it's somewhat complex and will probably involve getting the file and looking at code, basically something changed with 4.1 and broke the addon I'm using, basically there are two frames that act as columns and it seems that now the left most frame overlays on top of the right frame
20:36.33boomboothe right frame is visible but you can't mouse over it anymore
20:37.24Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r941 ZulAman/Akil'zon.lua:
20:37.25RepoAdd a check for Plucked since both the kidnapper and kidnappie get the aura applied
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21:11.13Xinhuanyssbossloot is going to be obsolete in patch 4.2 :P
21:11.17Xinhuanwell maybe not the drop percentages
21:13.44MysticalOSalso depends how accessible blizz makes theirs, can you pop it up outside the zone for example
21:14.03Xinhuanthe faq did say its accessible to all players of all levels for every dungeon
21:14.45Xinhuansince the info is already publicly available on sites like wowhead
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21:15.21MysticalOSi wonder how blizz will handle ability tooltips that have 4 versions
21:15.32MysticalOSdisplay all 4, or the one based on difficulty you're in
21:15.46Xinhuanmaybe a dropdown selector
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21:56.17Repo-fix bidwar silent auction whisper bidders being unable to place even 1 bid
22:00.23Repo10democratic-ready-check: 03ghenningp 04v1.2.1 * r66 : - Toc change only.
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22:22.34Repo10weakauras: 03Mirrormn * r126 / (6 files in 4 directories):
22:22.35RepoMade several improvements to Circular Dynamic Groups, including better animations
22:22.36RepoSpent quite a lot of time making Circular Dynamic Groups work well with the configuration's mover/sizer, backgrounds and borders, animations, etc.
22:23.29Repo10little-wigs: 03martinc * r942 ZulGurub/Jindo.lua:
22:23.30RepoJin'do: clean up Spirit Warrior's Gaze code, add optional flashshake
22:23.31RepoJin'do: use secondary icon as players tend to use primary icon for manually targetting adds or chains
22:23.32RepoJin'do: add leading timer for Shadows of Hakkar, adjust timers for cooldown and duration
22:31.12Repo10weakauras: 03Mirrormn 041.4b8 * r127 :  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
22:31.14RepoTagging as 1.4b8
22:31.15RepoMulti-target, group, and full-scan auto-cloned auras now all work reasonable well - without bugs and without cause frame stutters in 25 man raids.
22:31.16RepoAdded Dynamic Group sorting options
22:31.17RepoAdded Circular Dynamic Groups
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22:40.49TalrynIs there a way to put text into the clipboard for a user?  I haven't seen one but I'm wondering if there is a way to help when a user wants to export text data.
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22:44.33mckenziemci'm pretty sure all you can do is pop up a dialog box for them to manually copy the text out of
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22:51.47TalrynYes, that's what I have so far.  Just curious if it can be automated further.
22:51.59TalrynI agree though.  I cannot find any other way to do more than that.
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23:37.36HjalteSigh. Got disconnected and teleported from dungeon just as we were about to kill the last bosses in ZA. No Satchel for me :(
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23:50.14PrimerI've yet to pug ZA/ZG
23:53.45HjalteI'm tanking, which probably makes it more smooth, but even for those who don't know what to do, it seems easy enough.
23:54.22Primerwell, I went in to ZA with my main, with an all-main guild group, and for some reason we could not kill the bird boss
23:55.04PrimerI as the healer just could not keep everyone alive...it really sucked
23:55.15PrimerI spent more time dispelling than healing
23:55.36HjalteDid you have a lot of melee? I've heard that makes it harder.
23:56.27Primeryeah, we determined that it wasn't just that, but puts
23:56.38Primererr pets
23:56.57Primerat first I wasn't dispelling them, but then I had to, and the shit would just bounce from one person to the next
23:57.15Primers/and/as/
23:58.22Primerthere were 4 things in melee range, as both the hunter and lock were unwilling to try without their pets
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23:58.35HjalteI've seen healers complain about the bird boss

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