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00:00.21arkanesAntiarc: ping
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00:49.00Antiarcarkanes: pong
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05:25.06PrimerHi Shefki
05:25.24PrimerYou still working on PB? Seems you haven't been on much lately
05:26.57ShefkiBeen very busy with work.
05:28.07PrimerI hear that
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08:08.18Adirelle|workvhaarr, 'bout BugGrabber, I think I remember one of Archarodim issue, maybe the one you forgot : basically he wanted his addons to be able to catch errors for themselves, and let the other ones go through
08:09.41Adirelle|workbut this supposes using chain-of-responsibility pattern, what buggrabber doesn't do AFAIK
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08:37.02Slaymanso Monday it is then
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09:37.52sylvanaarugh monday
09:38.37sylvanaarcan I have Sunday back
09:43.58sbumh, no
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10:06.53vhaarrAdirelle|work: thank you, yes he (finally) got back to me and explained it
10:07.05Fiskeraww nevcairiel
10:07.07Fiskerumad?
10:09.59mckenziemcvhaarr: out of curiosity, my i ask what the issue was?
10:10.35vhaarryeah but it takes ages to explain, it's not an issue for anything except when addons embed it
10:10.45mckenziemcah
10:11.21mckenziemcis it something that could be an issue for embedded addons in general, or is it particular to the way this one is implemented
10:13.08Fiskersylvanaar i can give you friday if you want it
10:13.34mckenziemcwhy Fisker whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
10:13.42sylvanaar_workreally?
10:13.49Fiskeryeah
10:14.03Fiskerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD2LRROpph0
10:14.05Fiskerthere you go
10:14.41sylvanaar_workI still havent played crysis 2, and  i have had it for almost a week
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10:15.02Fiskeri completed it
10:15.44Fiskeralso if you're looking for MP you should be happy you haven't played it yet
10:16.00sylvanaar_workMP?
10:16.13Fiskermultiplayer
10:16.16sylvanaar_workoh
10:16.22sylvanaar_worki like coop
10:16.42Fiskerwell this is basically just CoD:MW2 with another name
10:18.20Fiskerno coop though
10:18.41Repo10witch-hunt: 03Ammo * r218 WitchHunt.lua: drycode fix slashcommand
10:23.40sylvanaar_worki loved co-op in mw2
10:24.03sylvanaar_workespecially the mission with the helicopter
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14:00.11mckenziemc1*rattle*
14:01.09Stanzillahey fisker
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15:36.20StanzillaAntiarc: happy birthday :p
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16:27.27Funkeh`http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12883511
16:27.30Funkeh`YES FINALY
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16:32.43FiskerFINALLY
16:33.41ZynFANILLY
16:33.54Zynand BBC's stylesheet broke
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16:47.25Antiarcthanks Stanzilla :D
16:48.32ckknight|2oh, happy birthday, Antiarc
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16:48.52ckknightAntiarc: what year you up to now?
16:49.03Antiarc28
16:49.35Stanzillaold man!
16:49.39Antiarcindeed
16:49.42Antiarcpractically ancient
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16:52.23Fiskeri wish you a damn happy birthday then?
16:52.36bluspacecow...
16:52.40bluspacecowoh to be 28 again
16:52.58bluspacecowwistfully ponders
16:53.00Fiskerwhat was that theorycrafting project you were working on again btw?
16:53.32kadrahilAntiarc: you're as old as me now
16:54.48Antiarchttp://shadowcraft.mmo-mumble.com/ that one?
16:54.57Fiskeryes
16:55.01Antiarchttp://shadowcraft.mmo-mumble.com/us/cenarion-circle/adrine if you want to see it in action
16:55.15kadrahilshadowcraft, and here i thought that was shadowpriest theorycraft
16:55.24kadrahilthat's a freaking sweet background image though
16:55.26AntiarcThe rogue dungeon set is called shadowcraft :)
16:55.27Fiskerpff only 22k dps Antiarc
16:55.32AntiarcThanks, I'm proud of it :D
16:55.41kadrahil:)
16:55.46Fiskeryou call that dps?
16:55.54Fiskerhttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-a7aeehrh1cux34oy/details/11/?s=11310&e=11515 <-THIS is dps
16:56.13kadrahilall i see is a graph fisker
16:56.19Antiarchttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-eq2ho04gqvalp1ud/sum/damageDone/?s=4787&e=5140
16:56.19Antiarcsup
16:56.24Fiskerthe yellow line is dps kadrahil
16:56.30kadrahili know i was just kidding
16:56.33Fisker~325k btw
16:56.41*** topic/#wowace by Ackis -> http://www.wowace.com | http://paste.wowace.com | http://twitter.com/WowAcecom | http://lua.org | Recent changes: http://kb.wowace.com/recent-changes/ | Curse Client v4: http://www.curse.com/client | WoWInterface Minion: http://minion.mmoui.com/ | Happy birthday Antiarc!
16:56.53Fiskerthat's only 150k at best Antiarc !
16:56.58kadrahilalso how
16:57.05kadrahilwhat mechanic in that fight lets you do that
16:57.13kadrahil(we haven't attempted heroic yet)
16:57.15Fisker<PROTECTED>
16:57.21kadrahilyeah i know
16:57.22Fiskeron nefarian it's siphon power
16:57.24kadrahiloh
16:57.27kadrahilsame type thing?
16:57.32Fiskernope
16:57.35Fiskeryou get mindcontrolled
16:57.35kadrahil:-|
16:57.39kadrahilohhh
16:57.40Fiskerthen you start walking towards a portal
16:57.47Fiskeryou have 2 options, siphon power or free your mind
16:57.47Ackis"The priest class is not currently supported by Shadowcraft." :( Antiarc
16:57.57kadrahilthen do you die and do the same thing you did on gorfiend?
16:57.59FiskerThe idea is that you spam siphon power until just before the portal, then you free your mind
16:58.02kadrahilgorefiend
16:58.07kadrahilah
16:58.22Fiskeryou just die if you hit the portal, no fancy stuff
16:58.29Fiskerand it's not a soft-enrage kinda deal either
16:58.46Fiskeranyway 150 stacks = 750% extra damage :D
16:59.16kadrahil2hot
16:59.29kadrahilwe haven't done many heroics yet
16:59.32AntiarcOn Halfus it's because blade flurry is broken hax
16:59.33kadrahilbut, according to stateofdps.com
16:59.41AntiarcSorry, Ackis, rogues only right now
16:59.43kadrahilon all of our recent kills i'm anywhere from 2-3k dps short of average on all fights
16:59.46kadrahilin full 359 gear
16:59.55kadrahilas opposed to the samples on that site which are most likely full 372
17:00.08kadrahilis that good :/
17:00.14AntiarcI totally ranked on Magmaw last night :D
17:00.15Antiarchttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-7jnnyf29p8zh7cvd/sum/damageDone/?s=1278&e=1532
17:00.56StanzillaAntiarc: the font is looking ok now btw, really was chrome's fault
17:00.58kadrahilo.o
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17:01.52Fiskeri'm ranked 20 on magmaw normal
17:02.29Stanzilla#2 on conclave normal :p
17:03.12Stanzillaand I would be ranked on sinestra if my raid didnt use such a shitty tactic  that has a dps stop :(
17:04.38Stanzillaand now I have to interrupt ADDS on sinestra as a priest §((/&$(/&%
17:05.21kadrahilo.o
17:05.35kadrahildo you take silence in your dps spec now
17:05.40kadrahiland drop imp mindblast?
17:06.07Stanzillano
17:06.14StanzillaI need psychic horror
17:06.22Stanzillaand drop one point from inner sanctum
17:06.25kadrahilright, i have that
17:06.27kadrahiloh
17:06.45sburanking on conclave... not possible with 30+s dps-stop ;)
17:11.36Stanzillaman this is going to end so bad
17:11.41Stanzillawtb more rogues
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17:17.18Fiskerhave someone made a replacement for golden ticket that shows the new queue time?
17:22.08kadrahiland what the crap @ fios not being available in nashville
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17:30.59ckknightkadrahil: you're in nashville?
17:31.06ckknightpretty close to us, then
17:31.19kadrahilckknight: yep
17:31.31kadrahilyou're still in huntsville?
17:31.47ckknightsure am
17:31.55kadrahilcool
17:32.08kadrahilmy grandparents used to live in florence until 5 or so years ago, i think
17:32.19Fiskeri used to live in your grandparents
17:32.22kadrahili forget how long ago they moved now
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17:42.15ckknightkadrahil: what're you doing in Nashville?
17:43.18kadrahilckknight: web app development for a marketing company
17:43.29ckknightkadrahil: cool stuff
17:43.42kadrahilyeah, it's pretty fast paced sometimes
17:44.07kadrahila few weeks ago i had like 4 projects going at once
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17:50.35kadrahili'm trying to get into some rails development, i'm starting to hate php more and more
17:51.57kadrahili'm wondering if this AccessControl gem would do what i need for auth
17:53.11kadrahilacl9 0.12.0
17:53.11kadrahilRole-based authorization system for Rails with a nice DSL for access control lists
17:53.56kadrahilAuthLogic appears to be the new kid on the block and seems to be the next evolution of restful_authentication, easier to use, etc
17:53.59kadrahilhttp://github.com/binarylogic/authlogic/tree/master
17:54.00kadrahilo.o
17:54.02kadrahilEdit: now that Rails 3 is out, Devise seems to be the new, new kid on the block
17:54.05kadrahilhttps://github.com/plataformatec/devise
17:54.54kadrahilwrong channel, sorry
17:54.58kadrahilfor like, the last 15 lines
17:55.09Elmoekadrahil: yo
17:55.16kadrahilElmoe: hey
17:55.34AntiarcDevise + Omniauth is a nice setup
17:55.36AntiarcIt's a bit brittle though
17:55.48Antiarcacl9 is pretty decent too
17:55.51kadrahilcool
17:56.06AntiarcI've used cancan and canable, too, both of which I like
17:56.36kadrahilwith the setup i'm envisioning, which is subscription based, users will pay for access to various services (parts of the site)
17:56.48kadrahilor additional features to existing services
17:58.04kadrahilElmoe: how's it going?
17:58.49Elmoekadrahil: same old
17:59.00Elmoekadrahil: anything new with you?
17:59.34kadrahilElmoe: well, i got married last year, and i've been working at a new job since september
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17:59.45Elmoekadrahil: congrats on both counts
17:59.49kadrahilthanks :)
17:59.55Elmoewhats the job?
18:00.04kadrahilweb development for a marketing company in nashville
18:00.29Elmoewhat sort of marketing?
18:00.34kadrahilfull service
18:00.44Elmoebeen working on target advertising the past few years myself
18:00.48kadrahilah
18:00.57kadrahilwe're specializing in personalized solutions i believe
18:01.25Elmoetargeted advertising that is
18:01.34Elmoevia email primarily
18:01.38kadrahili see
18:01.42Elmoespam king hah
18:01.54kadrahilwe ran into that recently, we did some email blasts
18:02.05kadrahilwe haven't been blacklisted yet
18:02.14Elmoeyeah ours are not actually spam I was just joking heh
18:02.21kadrahiloh i got it :P
18:02.29Elmoebasically write software that analyzes customers behavior on our website and then picks products to email them about
18:02.37kadrahilit's not spam either, we only use non-purchased provided lists from the customers and have opt-outs, etc
18:02.43kadrahilahh
18:03.31kadrahili'm going to write another solution to handle all of that soon, nothing i've found does what i want
18:04.03Elmoelooked at the AWS Simple Email Service at all?
18:04.12kadrahilnot yet
18:04.32Elmoecheck it out, might be a good platform for you to build upon for your work in the email channel
18:04.36kadrahilis that your handywork?
18:04.43Elmoedifferent team same group
18:04.49kadrahilah
18:05.20ElmoeI do the actual behavior analysis software etc. not the email management/sending stack
18:05.26kadrahili see
18:05.50kadrahili was thinking about something that would find out the smtp server on the receiver's end and use that to do the actual sending to avoid being blaclisted
18:06.15Elmoethe key to not being blacklisted is not to send spam haha
18:06.34kadrahilyeah
18:06.50kadrahili guess amount of emails isn't really the issue, if you're sending 4k+ at a time
18:08.46Elmoeyeah ISPs enforce a rate limit
18:09.15Elmoethis is why I would look at AWS SES, you won't have to worry about this stuff yourself
18:09.33Elmoeand can focus on the actual customer targeting and content selection which is the important bits
18:18.14Fiskerkadrahil
18:18.16Fiskerit's a bus
18:18.36kadrahilserial bus?
18:19.42Fiskerno
18:20.01kadrahilif so
18:20.15kadrahilthen jump on it, like will smith: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWiqnPIxIMd
18:20.30Repo10o-uf_ammo: 03Ammo * r86 Ammo.lua: fix combopoints
18:20.31Repoadd bossframes
18:25.24kadrahilhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxbuysNGLOM&feature=fvwrel
18:29.14Megalonwhy so busy Fisker
18:32.41kadrahilit's for his business
18:51.24Megalonso now trolling is an business
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19:00.45FiskerMegalon
19:00.46Fiskerit's a bus
19:00.59sylvanaar_workshort bus
19:01.01kadrahilFisker got pregnant and had a bus, congrats
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19:04.49MegalonFisker, komm, busbauen
19:06.19Fiskerit's a bus
19:09.32Megalonbut which seat can you take
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19:14.45Repo10ezinterrupt: 03Daylesan * r23 / (5 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 4 lines)
19:14.46Repo- Addon notifications will now be shown in the currently active chat window rather than the default chat window.
19:14.47Repo- Changed the unlocking and locking process to be a little smoother.
19:14.49Repo- Added a "System" announcement option that allows the addon to send interrupt messages that are only visible to you.
19:14.50Repo- Changed the announcement system to only send one message per interrupt.
19:19.07GnarfozMegalon: there's only one seat. and how the fuck did I not realize that "bus bauen" was the proper answer to Fisker's newest non-fad of trollery? Oo
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19:21.37Repo#1105 - Use correct return from GetNetStats() for cast lag display.
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19:26.38Repo10guild-delta: 03Farmbuyer 044.0.6-2 * r15 : Tagging as 4.0.6-2 (pulling in new translations)
19:30.58sylvanaari love these new buggrabber error links - they are nice
19:41.40MegalonGnarfoz: you need to rewatch all good german movies it seems!
19:45.48Stanzillawhat good german movies
19:47.12Repo10xperl: 03Zeksie * r520 XPerl_Options/XPerl_FrameOptions.lua:
19:47.13Repo#1101 - Custom Highlight config will now scan for all spells without upper limit. Stopping when end detected properly.
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19:52.35Repo10pitbull4_visualhelpers: 03Shotmonkey * r24 / (2 files in 1 directory):
19:52.37RepoLet's not update the indicators on every unit frame update, it's madness in raids.
19:52.38RepoFixed some nil error bugs
19:55.19Repo10pitbull4_visualhelpers: 03Shotmonkey 04v4.0.6-beta23 * r25 : Tagging as v4.0.6-beta23
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20:07.07winksame question again: anyone got a decent envenom debuff tracker like envenomous used to be? :|
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20:20.47groktaromg awesome
20:20.51groktarorder by find_in_set()
20:29.21Megalongroktar, why so sql :<
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20:42.57winkinteresting. a guildy just couldn't get on for 2 days because of google's 8.8.8.8 DNS
20:43.53nevcairielI've been using that dns ever since they opened it up, never had problems
20:44.17Funkeh`don't turst google enough for dns
20:44.37nevcairielrather trust your ISP? :P
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20:45.47Megalon;O
20:46.43StanzillaI can't do "fritz.box" with the google dns :(
20:46.56nevcairieladd it to your hosts file
20:47.07Megalonall to easy
20:47.18kadrahilaccording to plan
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20:53.39GnarfozStanzilla: lol, you could make your fritz.box use 8.8.8.8
20:54.02Stanzillayeah too easy
20:54.06GnarfozI can do that on my piece of shit locked-down, sealed-in, vacuum-wrapped alice router
20:54.19Gnarfozrunning out of words to describe how badly crippled it is
20:54.42sbuget a new router then!? :p
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20:55.01Gnarfozsbu: why? I have to have this one anyway
20:55.14Gnarfozno phone, otherwise
20:55.22sbuugh :)
20:55.41Gnarfozunless I build some JTAG device or something to tap the serial bus of the I/O chip, I can't get my voip login info :X
20:56.50Gnarfozcould someone lower these prices? http://www.clever-tanken.de/liste_payed.asp?ort=76530&typ=Diesel&image1.x=58&image1.y=18
20:57.17sbuuh, what are you doing here? :p
20:57.25sbuokay, here as in ~100km ;)
20:58.50sbuGnarfoz: http://www.clever-tanken.de/liste_payed.asp?ort=70565&typ=Benzin&image1.x=58&image1.y=18 - better fix that :p
20:59.18Gnarfozhaha, yeah, poor petrol users
20:59.40Gnarfozalso, I moved (last year)
21:00.03Archarodimwhat's funny is that /dump  ("Test\\ddd"):gmatch("([^\\]+)\\d+$")() works...
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21:00.22Archarodimit smells like a bug
21:01.00Arrowmastervhaarr: Archarodim seems to have found a bug in BugGrabber.lua line 278, using ^ to anchor a pattern being passed to gmatch does not work
21:01.00Torhal|workArcharodim: Did you ever talk to vhaarr? He's been trying to get hold of you for days.
21:01.09Torhal|workHeh
21:01.18Archarodimyeah we talked since then
21:02.23Archarodim(I let the query window oppened and wasn't noticed by new entries... :/ )
21:02.26Stanzillahe was a bit angry :p
21:02.46ArcharodimI know, I'm so sorry, it's quite stupid
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21:04.33ArcharodimI've fixed my IRC client, each private message make a sound and makes the task bar icon to flash now :)
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21:12.38Axodiousso the "Have Group Will Travel" hotfix means you can only use it outside of raids?
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21:13.05Fiskeroutside of raid instances
21:13.10Funkeh`nevcairiel, no, but there are several free alternatives out there
21:13.12Fiskerunless they hotfixed it again
21:13.13Axodiousyeah that's what i mean
21:13.31Funkeh`which is good for pverly suspicious people like me
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21:13.35Funkeh`overly*
21:13.44Axodioussort of silly imo, but what else could they do i guess
21:13.57FiskerI was hoping they could rely on trash status
21:14.03Fiskerthey already doo it for bosses to some extent
21:14.18Axodiousthat would require work
21:14.37Fiskerthey already have had a system like that in place in several instances
21:14.44Fiskerand as far as i know they can hotfix them
21:14.53Axodiousmybe they're working on it still
21:14.55Axodiousmaybe *
21:14.56Fiskerso hopefully they'll hotfix the trashpacks and reenable the summon perk
21:15.08Axodiousthat or do like i posted
21:15.12Axodiousmake another class that can summon
21:15.51Axodioussummoning is like the one really unique thing that 1 class has still >_>
21:16.38Axodiouscould easily make it a priest ability like "soul grip" or something
21:16.49Axodious"prayer of summoning" lol
21:20.35Axodiousi mean what bosses are we talking about skipping? i can't think of any current ones
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21:40.28kadrahili don't think they meant skipping bosses
21:40.33kadrahiljust skipping the trash
21:41.22Axodiousif all they meant was trash they didn't need to disable it in raids ><
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21:41.37Axodiousjust give mobs invis detect
21:50.50Caleb|the thing is at one point it worked in the beta (as in inside an instance) then it didn't work, then it worked again
21:51.10Caleb|so now "hotfixing" it is pretty bullshit imo
21:51.38Caleb|also I don't understand is whats the harm in skipping trash, when you can get epic loot from trash
21:51.53Axodiousit's the 5 mans they're talkng about
21:51.55Axodiousi believe
21:51.59Caleb|its a decision you can make, save some raiding time or get some purples
21:52.15Axodiousget into random, skip most bosses
21:52.38Caleb|I didn't even know it worked in normal dungeons
21:52.47Axodiousworks everywhere except pvp atm
21:52.52Caleb|don't even see the point in that, however raids are a different story
21:53.01Caleb|it does not work in raid instances Axodious
21:53.05Caleb|at least did not tonight
21:54.19Axodiouser
21:54.26Axodioussince before the hotfix i meant
21:54.31Axodioushotfixed disabled it in all instances
21:54.47Axodiousmy point is they didnt need to disable it in raids really
21:55.04Caleb|I totally agree on that Axodious!
21:55.21Axodiousat worst if they w anted you to kill trash add the invis detect ;o
21:55.32Axodiousgood old sunwell plateau
21:56.44Caleb|well you've got stuff like camo hunters now, so guess its not THAT simple
21:57.01Axodiousaren't moving hunters detectable by mobs?
21:57.20Caleb|they are only detectable by mobs if the hunter moves in melee range
21:57.32Axodiousthere should be 0 reason for camoflage to work against 85+ mobs
21:57.38Caleb|:D
21:57.56Caleb|not like it has much use in PvE right now, but then it'd have pretty much 0 :D
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