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00:51.35Repo10big-wigs: 03Maat * r8061 Blackwing/Nefarian.lua:
00:51.36Repoadd personal shadowblaze warning and make it not spam for casts especially in heroic
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01:02.13kagaroopinion: which is harder halfus or alakir?
01:04.27Stanzillaalakir
01:05.31kagarowe were thinking todo alakir since we dont have interrupts tonight for halfus
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01:15.44Repo10badboy_ccleaner: 03funkydude * r43 / (2 files in 1 directory):
01:15.44RepoDon't lower all text when the clear raid icon feature is enabled.
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01:20.01Megalonmeanwhile in germany http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PoNP8CaFAg
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01:45.10CyrezFunkeh`: Just read your PM's...  I'm just glad I wasn't crazy. ;)
01:47.04CyrezI moderate channels on JTV a lot so with my custom automated countermeasures I get where you're coming from...  Particularly with the swear filter there were a few accidents here and there. ._.
01:47.31CyrezBecause I was having to deal with people attempting to dodge a simplified filter.
01:48.28Cyrez"Oops, sec..." *Click, click* *More clicking* *Adds a line of code*
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02:10.25RepoKetho: http://www.wowace.com/addons/brez/. bRez. Tracks druid Rebirth cooldowns.
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06:19.47sylvanaarso i am on the lookout for a job - anyone'd company hiring new developers?
06:21.48RaydenUnihey, me too
06:22.39Jerubeither of you capable of working in australia without needing someone to sponsor your visa?
06:23.49sylvanaari met the point requirement 10 years ago when i looked
06:24.12sylvanaari'd have to check again to see if ther rules have changed much
06:24.55RaydenUnii have no idea
06:25.05Jerubsylvanaar: the visa sponsorship requirements for employers are draconian. the directors basically take responbility for any crimes you may commit while you're in australia, so my boss refuses to do it :P
06:25.13RaydenUniwow
06:25.21RaydenUnii promise not to commit any crimes
06:25.32RaydenUniwhere do you work?
06:25.53sylvanaari dont recall that part, but I am not into comitting crimes so i may have glossed over it
06:26.14Jerubhttp://nbb.co/pyjobs that's the current opening, but as i say, you need a visa first :P
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06:27.37sylvanaari am not a python guy - i suppose if i am going to look for job these days, ill have to be
06:29.03RaydenUniit says it's been filled
06:29.13JerubRaydenUni: fucker. i'll get that fixed.
06:29.24JerubRaydenUni: (we have a new intake for the same job this year)
06:29.42RaydenUnithis doesn't look like something i can do
06:29.46RaydenUninot a lot of networking experience
06:29.50RaydenUnii'm more engine side
06:29.54RaydenUniof games
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06:33.35Wobinsylvanaar: what language do you want?
06:33.37WobinJava?
06:33.58WobinI hear Atlassian is hiring, that's a good company to get into.
06:34.08JerubWobin: neither of them are australians.
06:34.09WobinIf I hadn't've gotten this one, I'd've tried for there
06:34.14sylvanaarc#, java, c++, Lua
06:34.20WobinJerub: so? =)
06:34.25WobinAtlassian has SF offices
06:34.27Jerubif you're graduates, you should apply at google.
06:34.35WobinJerub: nah, it's FB now
06:34.41WobinGoogle is past =P
06:34.42Jerubthey want a brasillian new engineers this year
06:34.59Wobincause all of their old ones moved to facebook
06:35.10sylvanaarim not young and naieve
06:35.33sylvanaarnor can i spell
06:36.00Wobinsylvanaar: http://www.atlassian.com/about/careers/listing.jsp?jobID=99#sf_jobs
06:36.11WobinThe company is awesome
06:38.01Jerubyeah, definately apply at atlassian, google, facebook, microsoft, etc.
06:38.50Wobinhm
06:38.58WobinI should act as a referrer =P
06:39.21Wobinwould you take a job in SF, sylvanaar? =)
06:40.07Wobinor sydney even, they'll probably sponser you
06:40.20Jerubyeah, atlassian are silly like that
06:40.28Jerub(and probably have better lawyers)
06:41.06sylvanaarid take it yeah
06:41.52sylvanaarim not sure i meet 100% of their requirements though...backend systems, spring/hibernamte - dont have any eperience there.
06:42.46sylvanaarits going to be difficult i think to find a job because i am such a generalist, i have dont a little bit of everything over the years
06:43.29Jerubsylvanaar: are you a recent graduate? or been working for a while?
06:43.53Jerubsylvanaar: i'm mixing you up with RaydenUni i think
06:44.20RaydenUniatlassian?
06:44.25RaydenUniwhat is that?
06:44.53sylvanaari have been working for a while - 14 years or so
06:45.25WobinRaydenUni: they're the company behind a lot of the software used by companies
06:45.30Wobinlike Jira and Confluence
06:45.32Groktaraccidently kills sylvanaar
06:49.39MegalonGroktar, that's a fiskery thing to do
06:49.54Megalonif by accidently you mean on purpose
06:51.55Groktaraccidently hits Megalon's screen with a hammer
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07:43.23Repo10everyquest: 03kandarz * r190 Core.lua: Fix GetHistoryStatus
07:43.43Repo10everyquest: 03kandarz 04r191-release * r191 : Created tag r191-release.
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09:23.28RepoChange the filtering code to be more efficient (cpu and memory)
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09:37.29RepoOptionalDependency: LibBabble-Race-3.0, change scroll to not send update message
09:38.07Repo10everyquest: 03kandarz 04r193-release * r193 : Created tag r193-release.
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10:21.50Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r8062 Blackwing/Locales/koKR.lua: koKR Update
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15:03.01RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/shadoweduf-deficit/. ShadowedUF Deficit. pigmonkey (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis.
15:03.03RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/initiumnovum_zonetextplus/. Initium Novum - ZoneTextPlus. Lockhead (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis.
15:03.06RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/icu/. ICU. Xiiph (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis.
15:07.20selckin@project icu
15:07.22Reposelckin: http://www.wowace.com/addons/icu/. ICU. Game: WoW. Xiiph (Manager/Author). Updated: 14 hours ago
15:07.34selckinshould really have a short descr in there!
15:08.13Ackis@describe icu
15:08.14RepoAckis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/icu/. ICU. Ready check (or manually) initiated flask/food buff check for raids.
15:08.43selckinbigbrother allready does!
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15:17.41kagarogod why is it so hard for people to change sometimes
15:18.27kagaroat work we are using oracle advanced queues. the java guys want to store xml for the queue data instead of oracle user defined types (It less code for them todo) talk about fucking lazy
15:18.57arkanesit's not "fucking lazy" to prefer XML to oracle UDFs :(
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15:19.22arkanesUDFs are horrible in oracle
15:19.31arkaneser, UDTs of course
15:19.35kagaroarkanes:  for teh data they are putting in (fixed format) has more overhead for the xml than the message itself
15:19.41arkanesso?
15:20.09kagaroits fails to process in a timely manner
15:20.22arkanesstorage overhead is unlikely to be the problem
15:20.31kagaroand its also access by C and C++ code
15:20.36arkanesall the more reason to use XML
15:20.43kagarothe overhead is xml marshall and unmarshalling
15:21.34arkanesI find it hard to believe that hand-rolled serialization to a UDT, especialyl with the horrible stuff you have to do in OCI to register them, will be any better
15:22.06kagaroits 100 times faster
15:22.08arkanesif the XML is more overhead than data, then your messages are small. LXML can read & write xml messages on the order of gigabytes/second
15:22.35arkanescertainly much faster than you can stream them over a network connection
15:22.38kagarothe messages are very small
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15:23.07arkaneswell then I don't believe that your problem is inherently XML serialization instead of anything else
15:23.31arkanesmaybe they're not streaming the data out of the CLOB buffer efficiently? Thats hard to do right
15:23.35arkanesthere's lots of things
15:23.41kagarowhat clob
15:23.45kagaroits a varchar
15:23.51arkaneswell then
15:24.35arkaneswhat kind of message rates are you trying to hit anyway?
15:25.01kagaroat peak could be up to 100k messages.sec
15:25.17arkanesfrom a single source, on a single connetion?
15:25.35kagaroits coming form a mesh network
15:25.36arkanescause you won't get oracle to hit that rate
15:25.44arkanesright, so how many per provider
15:25.58arkanesyou've got parallelism involved, obviously
15:26.16kagaroits a consolidate message being sent for processing that breaks this huge message into individual messages
15:26.52kagaroworkin on smart grid stuff, so during an outage the meters reporting up the the stack could be 100k plus
15:27.05kagaroalram events
15:27.12arkanesright
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15:27.29arkanesbut you're not going to pump 100k transactions/second through oracle on a single connection
15:27.34kagaroas it goes it to sub c-colelctors its build s bigger consolidate message till it get to the processor
15:27.44arkanesso clearly you're working through some sort of scaled out pooling mechanism
15:27.47kagarothe c code is runnign inside oracle
15:28.47kagaroi wasnt involed in that design at all, its legacy stuff end result is this huge chunk of data is passed to a stored proc that splits it into smaller events and adds it to a q
15:29.20arkanesanyway, if you're doing xml in oracle and you're using varchars you're doing it wrong
15:29.30arkanesyou should be using XMlTypes, which are backed by a clob
15:29.41kagaroagain its legacy stuff ut of my control
15:30.02arkanesit's stored using a pretty efficient binary representation and you can work on it using XML operators more efficiently than  on custom types
15:30.57kagarohahah like these guys know how to even use xml properly
15:31.03kagaroim contracting at this place
15:31.29kagarojust had some other guys work dumped on me since he was going on vacation
15:32.15kagarothey use home grown shit to parse the xml to java objects, or in some cases use jaxb todo it
15:32.28arkanesthe problem is that using a lot of oracles fancier features, especially custom types, is really awkward via language bindings
15:32.58arkanesI'm not really that familiar with the JDBC stuff but using UDTs from OCI is a giant cockup
15:33.23kagarothe c guys tell me if a lot easier for them to use udt than xml
15:34.05arkanesI find that pretty hard to believe
15:34.16arkanesunless they're planning on just hardwiring the UDT in there
15:34.30kagarothats my guess
15:34.34arkaneseven then, unless they're not familiar with libxml and friends
15:34.56kagaroits running on windows and no libxml is use as far as i can tell
15:35.18kagarolooking at thier code that hand create the xml via string concat
15:35.25arkanessigh
15:35.42arkaneswindows *does* have its own reasonably decent XML libraries
15:36.02arkaneslibxml2 is available also, and it's better, but the MSXML stuff is there if you want it
15:36.13kagaroi dont have any input for the c guys on windows at all
15:36.27kagaroim working on the java side of thier webservices
15:36.58kagaroand oracle does provide tools to marshall/unmarshall udt
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15:37.47kagaroif i had my choice i wouldnt have taken this contract
15:37.58kagarobut i needed the work
15:39.04arkaneswell if you're really up against a wall with the performance, and you honestly think that you can hit your goal with UDTs but not XML
15:39.12arkanesjust convert the XML into UDTs inside the stored proc
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15:40.13kagarothats what ive been asking for, till i built some log analyzers they didnt even realize thier usage patterns
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15:40.25arkanesI find it extremely difficult to believe that the marshalling is the significant part of your per-subscriber overhead though, unless they're doing something just utterly ridiclous in which case fixing that will probaly solve your problem
15:41.08kagarothey told me, yeah only a few people look at the console every once in a while. Logs show 10 people on all day every day and they are processing 10k events a day
15:42.02kagaroand not allowed to change any existing schemas and there is some ridiculus overhead to boot, this place has tons of xmlrpc for inter process communications
15:42.49kagarothey use ibraries that havent been supported in 10 years, thier xmlrpc server on the webside falls over at 20 transactions a sec etc..
15:43.07arkanesheh
15:43.19arkanesyou're not at united, are you? :P
15:43.35kagaroso performance is in the hole, im trying to leverage the db more (its setup in a cluster and actually properly configured for scale)
15:43.52kagarolol united
15:44.04arkanesI don't know a whole lot about oracle queuing
15:44.32arkanesalthough in general I find that oracle tends to kind of suck at anything outside of baseline RDBMS stuff
15:44.42kagaroim hoping the job i submitted a resume for friday turns out to be a good lead
15:45.05kagarogoogle android team :)
15:45.11arkanescool
15:45.31kagaroive got a friend over there who sent me a note friday
15:46.10kagarobtw anyone know how well springs scales?
15:46.42arkanesdamnit I accidentally closed my boxcar2d :(
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16:04.55Lutafiskhey
16:05.22Lutafiskanyone know how i configure the raid groups in grid to just align in a long row
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16:11.20Lutafiskguess its not possible :P
16:11.44mitchnullyou might be able to do that with SUF though
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16:30.31Stanzillahttp://www.engadget.com/2011/01/31/intel-finds-sandy-bridge-chipset-design-flaw-shipments-stopped/
16:30.33Stanzillalolz
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16:32.12selckinhaha
16:35.02StanzillaParnic: is that what you were talking about?
16:35.09Parnicyep
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16:42.06Lutafiskanyone know how i configure the raid groups in grid to just align in a long row
16:43.49nevcairielI hope i'll get a replacement board without having to send mine in first
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17:23.29Lutafiskanyone know how i configure GRID to put all the raid groups in a long single ROW?
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17:57.09Torhal|worksylvanaar_work: New version is evil.
17:57.22sylvanaar_workboo
17:57.34sylvanaar_worki guess ill take it down then
17:58.33Torhal|worksylvanaar_work: It doesn't like colons or periods after parens
17:58.39sylvanaar_workoh
17:58.41sylvanaar_workyeah
17:58.50sylvanaar_workare you on beta3?
17:59.00Torhal|workLemme see.
17:59.02sylvanaar_workbecause that was the bad parser bug i was talking about
17:59.50Torhal|workYah, I'm on Beta3
18:00.35sylvanaar_workwell that sucks
18:00.53Torhal|workIf I reformat the file it will actually put a space between them
18:00.54Torhal|workHehe
18:00.58sylvanaar_worki have taken them down, just force an update
18:01.07Torhal|workOk
18:01.58sylvanaar_workyou should get .23 again
18:03.00sylvanaar_workthere are so many new features in the betas, its a shame that this parser issue is holding everything up
18:03.02SqueeGzomg
18:03.16SqueeG|Workwe're all being delinquents!
18:03.48Torhal|workI'm guessing it's cached somewhere along the line. I've reloaded and it still says 0.9.50-Beta3 is the available version (I uninstalled and relaunched first)
18:04.11sylvanaar_workmaybe ill have to upload it again
18:04.54sylvanaar_worktry now
18:06.26Torhal|worksylvanaar_work: Good to go.
18:06.55sylvanaar_workok, well - ill let you know once i have fixed the parser.
18:09.08Torhal|workDanke
18:09.59sylvanaar_worki spent the whole weekend on this project - im kinda bummed that this bug snagged everything up
18:11.07sylvanaar_worki blame lua's grammer ambiguities
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18:35.54FiskerStanzilla
18:35.56Fiskerwe're fucked
18:35.59Fiskerfucked in the ass
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18:42.11Stanzillawhy Fisker
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18:46.02Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r8065 Blackwing/Chimaeron.lua: Blackwing/Chimaeron: Increase enrage timer.
18:46.38Fiskerthere's a flaw Stanzilla
18:46.49Fiskerdegraded sata performance apparently
18:46.57Stanzillayeah read about that
18:46.57Fiskerso they have to make a new hardware revision of the chipset
18:47.39nevcairielso we'll get a brand new mainboard for free
18:48.06Fiskerhassle nevcairiel
18:49.00Pneumatus^zzz, right, Grid switched back to Release
18:49.21Stanzilla^^
18:49.34StanzillaI even put it in the guild message to NOT update grid today
18:50.09nevcairielhow did they break it this time around? :P
18:50.36Pneumatus^i assumed from the commit log it had at least been tested to some extent with the comment "largely UNTESTED ALPHA"
18:50.40Pneumatus^nevcairiel: errors on load
18:51.20Pneumatus^had it said entirely untested, i'd have been asking for it :)
18:51.59Fiskerpatch fuuuuuuu'sday?
18:52.33nevcairielglad that i'm not one of those people that are totally dependant on grid :P
18:52.42Stanzillabtw nevcairiel people start switching to grid in my guild cause sRF is "not updated"
18:52.43Stanzilla-.-
18:52.50Pneumatus^easy enough to revert back to release anyway
18:53.02nevcairielsRF is dead
18:53.28Stanzilla:(
18:54.06Fiskersrf?
18:55.06durcynone of our priests confesed to using vuhdoo last night, i cried a little
18:55.30quiescenso.o
18:57.28StanzillaFisker: sRaidFrames
18:57.32Stanzillaand uh durcyn that is hard
18:57.51Nivthe beta grid still works just fine
18:58.38nevcairielI think we have people using that too
18:59.03NivI usually sit on alpha and blindly update until it breaks
18:59.06Nivthen swap
18:59.54Stanzillaas long as it's not healbot
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19:03.09kadrahilwhat's vuhdoo?
19:03.17Nivraid frames
19:03.20kadrahiloh
19:03.27kadrahili just use grid
19:03.27Nivthey are a reasonable alternative to grid
19:04.29Fiskernot vuhdoo
19:04.37Fiskeri should technically change back
19:04.44Torhal|workYou wouldn't vuhdoo Fisker.
19:04.51Fiskerthey're shit and bloat
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19:05.34durcynperfectraid imo
19:05.45durcynunless you're a healer, in which case you've already killed yourself
19:05.46jnwhitehi need to add an 'actual hp' option to praid
19:05.52jnwhitehfor chimaeron
19:06.09durcyncan use the debuff for chim, though
19:06.14jnwhiteh?
19:06.16nevcairielyeah i use the debuff
19:06.18durcynthere's a debuff
19:06.27jnwhitehah i suppose you're right
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19:07.04Fiskerlink perfectraid
19:07.05Fisker(or die)
19:07.21durcyngit.wowhead.com/ search for your damn self etc
19:07.41Fiskerwowhead?
19:07.45durcyner wowinterface
19:07.51durcyni was testing you
19:08.11Fiskeri believe i told you to die durcyn
19:08.20jnwhitehI once fisted a man
19:08.31Fiskerhot
19:08.59Fiskernot sure if want jnwhiteh
19:09.02Fiskeri like boxes
19:09.28Fiskeri always hated that airplane map in CS
19:09.43Fiskerthe one in the arctic or shit
19:11.32durcynde_aztec is still the best cs map
19:11.53durcyndid you hear that Fisker
19:15.50Fiskeri heard aztec sucks
19:22.27kadrahilthe aztecs would disagree
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19:32.46groktaro wow they just said they're going to hire two new programmers here
19:32.54groktarthat means i won't be the most junior anymore
19:32.55groktaryay
19:33.18Fiskeri once programmed a goat groktar
19:33.53krkaunless they hire two senior programmers
19:34.03groktarlol
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19:56.55sylvanaar_workjnwhiteh: did we really need to know that
20:03.24Torhal|worklol
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20:42.39Yoshimodo i fail for libfails2 if i get hit by valionas deep breath but have my divine shield active?
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20:48.53sztanpetafaik you have to take dmg, but dunno
20:48.57sztanpetCaleb| must know
20:50.23kadrahilwhat if i disperson and take minimal damage
20:50.37Caleb|then you get pushed to the twilight realm, which is a fail
20:50.49kadrahilnot that breath
20:50.58kadrahildeep breath where she fills the room
20:51.16Caleb|yes deep breath pushes you to the twilight phase, or is that heroic only? :D
20:51.22kadrahilperhaps it is
20:51.29kadrahilbecause it hasn't done so on normal that i'm aware of
20:52.05kadrahilthe only mechanic that pushes you into twilight i can think of are when she tosses the breath into the galaxies
20:52.17kadrahilat least on normal!
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20:59.46Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r8066 Blackwing/Maloriak.lua:
20:59.48RepoBlackwing/Maloriak: Set warnedAlready on the dark phase so we don't warn twice.
21:03.09Repo10cbmt (experimental): 03stolenlegacy * r5 / (2 files in 1 directory):
21:03.10RepoAdded .pkgmeta and libraries preparing for the first beta tag.
21:03.16Repo10libinternalcooldowns-1-0: 03mojosdojo * r28 LibInternalCooldowns-1.0/Data.lua: Add a few missing items and all non-standard cds.
21:03.29Repo10cbmt (experimental): 03stolenlegacy 04beta-1 * r6 : First beta tag.
21:14.02Repo10breakables: 03Parnic * r62 Breakables.lua:
21:14.03Repo- drycoded fix to ticket #10: look through the first 5 lines of the tooltip to find "millable" or "prospectable" instead of requiring it to be on line 2
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21:48.48sylvanaar_workTorhal|work: i think i fixed the problems, you going to be around in a couple hours? im going to need someone to sanity check with when i get home
21:53.41Torhal|worksylvanaar_work: Yah. I'll be home in a couple of hours.
21:56.34tlundis the function to automatically mail stuff to your alts based on groups that was available in Quick Auctions 3 available in some other addon?
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22:00.09tlundooh. some recursing found me TradeSkillMaster :)
22:04.56TheDude2yep. it was AuctionProfitMaster if you are dying to use the exact same old UI
22:05.12TheDude2same UI as QA3, but with minor cata patches
22:05.37TheDude2tradeskillmaster is fantastic so far though, just great
22:06.50TheDude2valonia deep breath /does/ put you into twilight realm on non-heroic mode
22:07.23TheDude2my raid mates are very good at sneaking in and out of there without getting caught ;)
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22:20.09Pneumatus^hmm, looks like i might have to crack into my author points for a new router
22:20.37Parnicyou'll also have to wait for cards to be back in stock :P
22:21.30Pneumatus^hmm im sure the £100 ones werent out of stock the other day
22:21.31Pneumatus^oh well
22:21.50Pneumatus^plan b it is
22:22.02Parniclooks like you'll have to buy cards in euros :P
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22:42.20Repo10charscanner: 03kunda * r84 / (6 files in 1 directory):
22:42.21Repo- new: added an average row for all comparable number data that is shown in CompareFrame
22:42.34Repo- removed unused localization strings
22:42.35Repo- fixed possible bug in main frame height calculation
22:42.36Repo- some improvements
22:43.43koaschtenPneumatus^ a £50 should do for a TL-WR1043ND
22:44.10Pneumatus^koaschten: looking at a billion 7800N
22:45.24Pneumatus^i dont think tplink do a gigabit + wireless adsl router
22:45.29koaschtendo you need the modem in the router?
22:45.45koaschten(which is a bad concept from my point of view)
22:45.46Pneumatus^yeh
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22:46.36Pneumatus^thought about a WAG320N but i've got mixed feelings about linksys hardware
22:47.26koaschtenthe tp-link is getting good reviews for performance and open firmware options
22:47.36koaschteni'd just buy a seperate modem and the tp-link one
22:48.03koaschtenis probably cheaper and you can keep the router if you decide to change provider to something not dsl?
22:48.20sbuyea, maybe "superkabel" :D
22:48.29Pneumatus^no chance of switching to anything else other than dsl though
22:48.50Pneumatus^not in the forseeable future, anyway
22:49.10koaschtensbu i have a nifty little plan
22:49.59sbudoes it involve burning down something big? maybe isp hq!?
22:50.00koaschtencancel contract, have the customer hotline call me to offer me something to stay and i will say "docsis3 60mbit for 19.90 even though i am no new customer"
22:50.09sbumh
22:50.16koaschtenand if they dont swallow that, i just gonna go back to 6mbit dsl
22:50.20koaschtenscrew em
22:50.46sbuso you really think you will get more than 1mbit out of 60M, right? :p
22:51.43koaschtenpfff i have 2/2 currently
22:51.52koaschtensynchronous link!
22:51.57sbu:D
22:52.14koaschtenwould cost you a fortune 5 years back -.-
22:52.24koaschtennow i only lack 16x my downstream
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23:06.38TheDude2hehe i waited till cable modems got past 10Mbit before i gave up my synchronus 1.5/1.5
23:07.22Repo10sheepdog: 03Archarodim 07master * 1.0.1-1-g7c80cf2 Doc/Description.md.txt: [+1 commit] - Update to main description.
23:07.26TheDude2they just rolled out 60/6 for the same monthly fee that T1 cost me 5y ago
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