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| 00:11.48 | pompy | Why is there no way to toggle the little house icons on the continent maps!? It's annoying. |
| 00:13.48 | orionshock | pompy, those are the map POI's |
| 00:14.26 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Maat * r7835 Blackwing/Omnotron.lua: add cloud say |
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| 00:19.40 | pompy | orionshock: ok? can they be hidden? |
| 00:22.52 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03MuffinManKen * r336 / (2 files in 2 directories): added Mage Hunter Effects (openable quest item) |
| 00:25.07 | orionshock | pompy, yeah |
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| 00:25.57 | `-FISKER_Q\ | moo: cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz (x64) at 3701MHz (28% Load) |
| 00:27.11 | pompy | how |
| 00:27.19 | Parnic | fisker you're yelling at me again |
| 00:27.28 | Parnic | i thought you weren't getting the motherboard you wanted yet |
| 00:27.52 | `-FISKER_Q\ | i'm not |
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| 00:29.43 | orionshock | pompy, very carefully... im sure if you ask nevcairiel really nicely he'll add it to mapster :) |
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| 00:30.24 | Repo | 10deathnote: 03slaren * r22 / (4 files in 1 directory): - Added some prioritization of survival buffs |
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| 00:31.12 | Iblise | Evening, does anyone know if it still possible to cancel the threat part of tricks via macro for rogues? |
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| 00:32.02 | Iblise | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.09 | Iblise | with a / in front of the run |
| 00:32.13 | Iblise | was the macro we found |
| 00:32.17 | orionshock | Iblise, nope |
| 00:32.25 | Iblise | nope you can't do it? |
| 00:32.27 | orionshock | buffs are now protected functions |
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| 00:32.47 | Iblise | damn |
| 00:32.47 | Fisker | i'm now awesome Parnic |
| 00:32.58 | Parnic | congrats fisker. how much was the cpu? |
| 00:33.00 | Parnic | $$ |
| 00:33.05 | Fisker | a lot |
| 00:33.20 | Parnic | no really. i want to get one :) |
| 00:33.22 | orionshock | Iblise, you might be able to use /cancelaura <name> |
| 00:33.25 | Fisker | ~435 usd here |
| 00:33.29 | Parnic | ah |
| 00:33.31 | Fisker | probably around 300 usd for you |
| 00:33.36 | Parnic | the 2600k is the 4-core? |
| 00:33.38 | orionshock | as part of the macro, but nothing specific like for/loop |
| 00:33.48 | Fisker | 4-core with hyperthreading |
| 00:33.49 | Iblise | so why can i still use /cancelaura Lichborne |
| 00:33.58 | Parnic | ah. 2500k is the non-HT one? |
| 00:34.04 | Fisker | you can get basically the same cpu but with a little less cache and no hyperthreading for like 100$ less |
| 00:34.10 | Fisker | yeah |
| 00:34.20 | Parnic | Iblise: because user input is considered protected :) |
| 00:34.25 | orionshock | Iblise, there is a difference between using a lua script to Cancel an aura and using a slash command that does a basic idiot check |
| 00:34.42 | Fisker | Parnic |
| 00:34.48 | Parnic | wat |
| 00:34.50 | Fisker | do you have like the power to have valve do stuff? |
| 00:34.59 | vhaarr | there's a difference between using protected code and unprotected code |
| 00:35.01 | Fisker | like "we want this feature if you want duke nukem forever on steam" |
| 00:35.16 | Parnic | not really. but they're pretty good about adding stuff that we ask them to add within reason :) |
| 00:35.18 | p3lim | any of you know how to make changes to .Xdefault apply? |
| 00:35.46 | Fisker | every time i reinstall Windows i retain my steam data |
| 00:35.54 | Fisker | but just reinstall steam "on top" |
| 00:36.06 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7836 Blackwing/Maloriak.lua: |
| 00:36.07 | Repo | Apparently the green phase bar wasn't showing up, but now it should. In both normal and heroic. |
| 00:36.16 | Fisker | As a result every game in steam is marked as not being updated automatically |
| 00:36.28 | Fisker | you've seen the list of games i have :< |
| 00:36.32 | Parnic | haha |
| 00:36.36 | Parnic | post on the forums? :P |
| 00:36.49 | Fisker | done that a lot of times |
| 00:36.53 | Fisker | even told some valve devs |
| 00:37.40 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7837 Blackwing/Omnotron.lua: Blackwing/Omnotron: cleanup cloudcast function |
| 00:38.01 | Parnic | i dunno. if they don't see it as being a big deal, they don't really jump on fixing it :P |
| 00:38.20 | Fisker | true |
| 00:38.36 | Fisker | i think one of them said that less than 1% of all steam users have as much games that i have :P |
| 00:38.40 | Fisker | or more |
| 00:38.54 | Parnic | grats |
| 00:39.06 | mckenziemc | fewer* many* as* |
| 00:39.12 | Fisker | mckenziemc |
| 00:39.13 | Fisker | also |
| 00:39.15 | Fisker | fuck you |
| 00:39.23 | Fisker | i will eat you for lunch |
| 00:39.30 | mckenziemc | I* |
| 00:39.48 | Fisker | that's just silly |
| 00:40.03 | mckenziemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.28 | Gnarfoz | *:) |
| 00:40.59 | Gnarfoz | also Fisker, why are Horde stupid? |
| 00:41.10 | mckenziemc | dereferences Gnarfoz |
| 00:41.12 | Repo | 10fambags: 03fammy2k * r49 / (3 files in 2 directories): v1.0.2 |
| 00:41.13 | Repo | * Error Fix: Ticket #39 (hopefully) |
| 00:41.14 | Repo | * Error Fix: Ticket #40 |
| 00:41.55 | Fisker | no Gnarfoz |
| 00:42.08 | Repo | 10fambags: 03fammy2k 04v1.0.2 * r50 : Versio: v1.0.2 |
| 00:42.09 | Repo | * Error Fix: Ticket #39 (hopefully) |
| 00:42.10 | Repo | * Error Fix: Ticket #40 |
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| 00:44.38 | Iblise | hmm thanks orionshock |
| 00:45.05 | Iblise | but the gist of what you are saying is its pretty much impossible to either macro or mod a cancel tricks threat? |
| 00:46.16 | Iblise | Just been trying to find a way to get our rogues higher up on threat for chimeron so they can evasion tank it in heroic during the burn phase |
| 00:46.24 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7838 Blackwing/Maloriak.lua: Where did the syntax check commit hook go? |
| 00:46.59 | orionshock | Iblise, what's the buff name? |
| 00:47.29 | orionshock | and you can just add it to a macro that's already in use, canceling an aura dosn't trigger the GCD |
| 00:47.52 | Iblise | tricks of the trade I believe is the buff name |
| 00:48.08 | Iblise | but the problem arise that the dmg buff is also tricks |
| 00:48.36 | orionshock | yeah.. well what your trying to do is not something blizzard wants you to do :| |
| 00:48.41 | Iblise | so if a rogue cancelauras the tricks of the trade, there is uncertain if they'll cancel their threat transferral buff or the the other rogues +dmg buff |
| 00:49.00 | Iblise | the macro i linked only canceled the threat part |
| 00:49.31 | Iblise | rogues are saying they cancelaura the buff easily if no one else casts tricks on them before they cancel |
| 00:49.48 | Iblise | just not something they really want to fuck around with on that heroic fight |
| 00:49.48 | Fisker | i sleep now orionshock |
| 00:50.40 | Gnarfoz | Iblise: that's exactly one of the examples Blizz listed when they changed that |
| 00:50.50 | Iblise | really |
| 00:50.51 | Iblise | oh |
| 00:50.52 | Iblise | damn |
| 00:51.16 | Iblise | it wouldn't be an issue save that threat decays now |
| 00:51.17 | orionshock | buffs are there to be buffs, not to be Min/maxed to avoid mechanics or to cause unnatural mechanics |
| 00:51.19 | Iblise | sigh |
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| 00:51.37 | Iblise | problem is our rogues have very little threat come p3 |
| 00:51.47 | Iblise | due to tricks and feign reducing it massively |
| 00:51.53 | orionshock | bop the tank? |
| 00:52.03 | Niv | trick is temporary? :P |
| 00:52.06 | Niv | tricks* |
| 00:53.06 | Gnarfoz | orionshock: doesn't reduce threat, just makes the enemy attack someone else because their target is immune |
| 00:53.31 | Gnarfoz | (not sure what he's trying to do/exploit/gain, just speaking generally) |
| 00:53.32 | orionshock | is it a fight mechanic to have the rogues evasion tank the boss? |
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| 00:55.22 | Repo | 10raid_checklist: 03Anyia3 * r104 main.lua: |
| 00:55.23 | Repo | * Gracious handling of unknown spell IDs when creating icons and link for said |
| 00:55.24 | Repo | spells. |
| 00:58.08 | Repo | 10raid_checklist: 03Anyia3 * r105 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 00:58.09 | Repo | * Added the Warlock "Enslave Demon" ability to the demon crowd control entry. |
| 00:58.10 | Repo | * The Paladin "Rebuke" spell is being changed in 4.0.6 from talent to trained. |
| 00:58.11 | Repo | It also gets a new spell ID as part of that change. RCL now has 4.0.6 adjusted |
| 00:58.12 | Repo | information (and will show ? in 4.0.3a due to the ID change). |
| 00:59.37 | arkanes | Iblise: I'm 100% certain that tricks threat transfer is temporary, and that threat decay isn't implemented |
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| 01:00.02 | Parnic | arkanes: yeah, the tooltip even says that much |
| 01:00.10 | Parnic | it very clearly states that tricks threat is now temporary :P |
| 01:00.12 | arkanes | Iblise: your problem is probably that tanks do enourmously more threat than any DPSer now, especially on a fight where they're practically guaranteed to be at full vengeance the whole time |
| 01:00.28 | Fisker | kisses Parnic |
| 01:00.31 | Fisker | *giggles* |
| 01:00.49 | arkanes | also if they're assas, which they should be, they'll be vanishing for the dps increase |
| 01:01.19 | Parnic | "which they should be" - screw that. combat ftw |
| 01:01.35 | arkanes | combat is for paint chewers and nazi lovers |
| 01:01.47 | Parnic | i'm just happy that 4.0.6 is buffing combat :P |
| 01:01.59 | orionshock | arkanes, if they are good players they'll play what spec suits them and it won't matter |
| 01:02.07 | arkanes | did they screw the patch notes up or is main gauche now a main hand swing? |
| 01:02.11 | arkanes | thats what I want to know |
| 01:02.46 | nebula169 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:02.46 | purl | Download FrameXML code/art from http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=21466 ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 01:03.58 | arkanes | orionshock: anyone who's good at combat will be better at assas, and it does a pretty sizeable amount more damage now, especially on fights with long important burn phases like chimaeron |
| 01:04.29 | arkanes | orionshock: I agree that playing the spec you prefer is ideal, but the difference between them is beyond just preference at this point |
| 01:04.33 | Parnic | arkanes: meh, they'll buff combat until it's competitive. <3 my KS & AR |
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| 01:04.49 | arkanes | I just started leveling my rogue from 80 |
| 01:05.01 | arkanes | it's kinda silly how great KS is in ICC epics on leveling mobs :P |
| 01:05.02 | orionshock | arkanes, you do know that you min-max'ers are half the reason this game is starting / has sucked so bad in the past |
| 01:05.17 | arkanes | orionshock: I'm quite sure that's not true |
| 01:05.33 | orionshock | orly? |
| 01:05.50 | arkanes | saying that people should be assas for endgame pve is no different than saying you should be resto for healing |
| 01:06.10 | Parnic | disagree :P |
| 01:06.13 | orionshock | xpt that rogues are pure dps and it dosn't matter what spec it is |
| 01:06.18 | orionshock | druids only have 1 healing spec |
| 01:06.21 | arkanes | except it *does* |
| 01:06.32 | arkanes | because combat does a *lot* less damage than assas right now |
| 01:06.38 | arkanes | it'll be nice if that changes |
| 01:06.49 | Parnic | their primary goal right now is to make that not the case, though |
| 01:06.51 | Parnic | i have faith :) |
| 01:07.01 | arkanes | we're not talking the 1-2% that the spreadsheeters freak out about, or even the 10-15% that can easily be covered by personal play style and choice |
| 01:07.42 | orionshock | no, we're talking about the calculus nerds that have nothing better to do than to run stats on a video game.... |
| 01:07.43 | arkanes | anyway yeah it looks like they're getting some decent buffs |
| 01:07.47 | arkanes | orionshock: whatever |
| 01:08.02 | arkanes | orionshock: I was talking to someone who clearly cared about completing and encounter and playing accordingly |
| 01:08.04 | orionshock | sorry i feel like an ass atm... |
| 01:08.18 | arkanes | orionshock: if you want to heal raids as an elemental spec shaman, or do the rogue equivilent, I certainly don't care |
| 01:08.31 | arkanes | but expect to get called on it if you complain about not winning |
| 01:09.29 | orionshock | ^.^ |
| 01:09.32 | orionshock | meh |
| 01:09.47 | arkanes | I also noticed huge, massive sub buffs |
| 01:10.04 | arkanes | I would do the erotic dance of 1000 veils if sub became raid-competetive again |
| 01:10.37 | Aeyan | When was the last time it was? Back when hemo was the in thing for a bit in BC? |
| 01:10.47 | arkanes | like 2 weeks in ulduar is about it |
| 01:10.55 | Aeyan | Ah, right |
| 01:10.56 | arkanes | actually more like 3 days, i think |
| 01:11.05 | Aeyan | Yeah, that was tweaked in short order, heh |
| 01:18.12 | Killmore1 | if I plan to switch to grid, should I use grid2 now or its not enough ready ? |
| 01:21.25 | Repo | 10prescription: 03Starinnia * r144 Prescription.lua: -fix options bug |
| 01:34.14 | Ingela | are addons allowed to change uiscale |
| 01:34.15 | Ingela | ? |
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| 01:37.22 | Repo | 10pitbull4_vengeancebar: 03nebula169 * r10 VengeanceBar.lua: Updated Vengeance cap |
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| 01:38.17 | nebula169 | SetCVar("uiscale", 1.5) |
| 01:38.26 | nebula169 | @Ingela |
| 01:38.56 | kagaro | hrmm 19k dps from a rogue on halfus .. good ? bad ? |
| 01:38.58 | Ingela | hmm nice i thought everything from the whole graphic thing was off limits |
| 01:39.29 | nebula169 | nah, they're account-wide changes, though, so tread lightly |
| 01:43.09 | Parnic | kagaro: 19k seems really awesome. but i've never done the halfus fight so idk |
| 01:43.24 | Parnic | best i've gotten is ~18k and that's from exploiting BF/AR in a group of mobs |
| 01:43.27 | kagaro | he has a 250% or something like that buff onthe players isnt it |
| 01:43.52 | arkanes | kagaro: not always |
| 01:43.52 | nebula169 | that's a bit low |
| 01:44.07 | arkanes | it depends on the raid buffs available but 19k is pretty respectable |
| 01:44.18 | nebula169 | rogue in our guild goes 27-35k |
| 01:44.20 | nebula169 | in 10s |
| 01:44.23 | kagaro | the rest of his 10man was avg 13k or or less |
| 01:44.25 | nebula169 | does* rather |
| 01:44.40 | arkanes | he doesn't do 27-35k single target on fights without a gimmick |
| 01:44.50 | nebula169 | we're talking about halfus |
| 01:45.01 | nebula169 | scion inflates that greatly, i know |
| 01:46.01 | vhaarr | with 150% buff, 19k is way too low :P |
| 01:46.23 | vhaarr | should have at least 30k then |
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| 01:48.40 | arkanes | kagaro: it's 50% per drake killed |
| 01:48.52 | arkanes | so depending on how they did the fight, it'd have a greater or lesser effect |
| 01:49.10 | kagaro | they had 2 drakes dead |
| 01:53.12 | arkanes | looks like median raid dps for halfus 10N is 135k |
| 01:53.22 | arkanes | which is 27k, if you run 3 heals and 2 tanks |
| 01:53.44 | arkanes | that feels high to me, but I haven't really looked at our halfus logs |
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| 02:02.17 | mckenziemc | Groksie Roksie |
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| 02:11.17 | Groktar | hai |
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| 02:15.21 | xterm | anyone here familiar with altoholic? |
| 02:16.22 | Parnic | i use it if that's what you mean |
| 02:17.02 | xterm | im trying to write a script / plugin for it and cannot get one of the functions to toggle the checkboxes in account sharing properly |
| 02:17.46 | Parnic | ah, sorry. i haven't tried to do any coding work with it |
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| 02:22.14 | Stanzilla | ~seen mirrormn |
| 02:22.25 | purl | mirrormn <~Mirrormn@h185.187.19.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 28d 8h 58m 13s ago, saying: 'tem is always telling me that Lua->C overhead is actually fairly significant'. |
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| 02:30.28 | xterm | seen Thaoky |
| 02:31.07 | xterm | anyone here familiar with the coding of altoholic? |
| 02:31.49 | Nechckn | Also, you only need to ask once in each channel, if someone knows, they will get back to you. |
| 02:32.24 | Nechckn | actually, mckenziemc responded that they were semi-familiar over in wowuidev |
| 02:34.07 | Repo | 10dhud4: 03Arcanefoam * r45 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Last adjustments to the outer module |
| 02:34.32 | mckenziemc | Nechckn: he rephrased the question to make a distinction :p |
| 02:34.51 | Nechckn | okey d dokey |
| 02:35.01 | mckenziemc | i'm familiar with configuration but not the inner workings so i couldn't help him : / |
| 02:35.27 | Repo | 10dhud4: 03Arcanefoam 040.9b * r46 : - Bug fixes |
| 02:35.28 | Repo | - Outer module |
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| 02:38.29 | Nechckn | if you have a code snippet and wonder why it is not working, maybe put it in http://pastey.net and then return a link here. That way, if it is something more "Ace-ish" there may be others who can lend a paw. |
| 02:40.01 | pompy | anyone doing archaeology ever get the scourgeholme digsite in icecrown and have trouble getting one of the fragment spawns? |
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| 03:05.35 | Repo | 10badtank (experimental): 03emallson * r0 / (79 files in 22 directories): Initial Commit. All base functionality -- minus autoLFDCheck -- implemented. |
| 03:13.08 | Repo | 10badtank (experimental): 03emallson * r1 core.lua: Embarrasing typo (ClearInspectTarget instead of ClearInspectPlayer) went unnoticed. Will not longer trigger on manual inspections. |
| 03:13.49 | RaydenUni | http://cn.wowarmory.com/ |
| 03:13.51 | RaydenUni | what's this? |
| 03:14.00 | RaydenUni | this isn't blizzard affiliated is it? |
| 03:14.16 | RaydenUni | it's the first thing to come up when you search "wow armory" |
| 03:14.37 | RaydenUni | wowarmory.com is a blizzard domain |
| 03:15.24 | ben | Clearly someone must have installed a phishing site on a subdomain |
| 03:15.41 | RaydenUni | well my guildmate says it's a phising site |
| 03:15.45 | RaydenUni | but i can't see any evidence of it |
| 03:15.48 | RaydenUni | so i'm looking into it |
| 03:16.21 | Stanzilla | normal blizz site |
| 03:16.27 | Stanzilla | like eu.wowarmory.com |
| 03:16.50 | RaydenUni | looks like it's just the china armory site |
| 03:16.57 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 03:17.51 | ben | china, eh |
| 03:17.55 | ben | isn't thatwhere all the hackers are from |
| 03:18.00 | RaydenUni | all of them |
| 03:19.10 | RaydenUni | i just picked up a Maelstrom Crystal |
| 03:19.22 | RaydenUni | not sure my gear is worth using it to enchant something |
| 03:19.35 | xterm | i wonder if the cn subdomain hasnt migrated yet or if blizzard plans on keeping it seperate |
| 03:20.47 | RaydenUni | is there an EJ irc channel? |
| 03:20.53 | RaydenUni | i need to find a good theorycraft room |
| 03:21.03 | RaydenUni | i feel bad asking in here, even though i know you guys enjoy that stuff |
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| 03:46.20 | Repo | master once). Callable pets are treated the same as filtered raid members, |
| 03:46.21 | Repo | meaning that abilities which could be provided by a pet and isn't already |
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| 05:35.23 | pompy | "Three new enchants are available. They increase Agility by 50, Strength by 50, or Intellect by 50 respectively. Item level 300 or higher required. These new recipes are rare world drops." .. haha nice patch note |
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| 05:42.13 | RaydenUni | is mirrikat's gearscore addon still the most used? |
| 05:44.54 | orionshock | u mean that worthless addon by an insane author? |
| 05:45.05 | RaydenUni | what do you recommend instead? |
| 05:45.19 | orionshock | knowing what skill and good gear look like |
| 05:45.26 | RaydenUni | that's fine |
| 05:45.38 | RaydenUni | i still don't like having to mouse over every piece of gear they have to see what they are wearing |
| 05:46.30 | orionshock | ah, such a minor inconvenience eh? |
| 05:46.44 | RaydenUni | that's irrelevant |
| 05:46.51 | Jerub | isn't there a continuation of elisitgroup? |
| 05:47.10 | orionshock | u know the default UI gives an average itemlevl now |
| 05:47.18 | RaydenUni | how do i see that for others? |
| 05:47.24 | RaydenUni | i only see how to display that for me |
| 05:47.25 | orionshock | you ask :) |
| 05:47.32 | Jerub | gearscore is the only thing i absolutely refuse to use. |
| 05:47.33 | RaydenUni | ask someone else? |
| 05:47.34 | bluspacecow | nah |
| 05:47.41 | RaydenUni | you only seem capable of giving me snide comments |
| 05:47.42 | bluspacecow | omen would be the most used |
| 05:48.03 | Jerub | bluspacecow: omen? the threat monitor? |
| 05:48.06 | orionshock | RaydenUni, sorry... GS is one of those things that shouldn't have been created but was because of lazy people ... |
| 05:48.13 | orionshock | feel free to ask me to stop |
| 05:48.25 | RaydenUni | i find nothing wrong with being able to quickly see what gear someone has |
| 05:48.25 | Torhal | orionshock: How about "STFU"? :D |
| 05:48.35 | RaydenUni | perhaps the use of it is less than ideal |
| 05:48.41 | bluspacecow | afaik yeah |
| 05:48.44 | RaydenUni | and perhaps the mod is designed poorly |
| 05:48.45 | Torhal | I loved the "insane author" comment though - it was spot on. |
| 05:48.48 | Jerub | yeah, this is why i liked elitistgroup, but shadowed stopped playing wow |
| 05:48.52 | RaydenUni | but i'd still like something that lets me see what kind of gear someone has |
| 05:48.59 | RaydenUni | i used elitistgroup back in wrath i think |
| 05:49.03 | orionshock | Torhal, have you ever read the code for GS ? |
| 05:49.04 | Jerub | Torhal: did you see that threat about how they obsuficated their code? |
| 05:49.08 | Torhal | orionshock: Yes. |
| 05:49.10 | bluspacecow | yep |
| 05:49.12 | Jerub | er thread. |
| 05:49.12 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 05:49.16 | orionshock | it's bad... i think alar was just a shade better at it |
| 05:49.20 | bluspacecow | and ackis improved it at first |
| 05:49.21 | bluspacecow | noob |
| 05:49.22 | Jerub | i may've been trolling a little in it |
| 05:49.27 | bluspacecow | *approved it at first |
| 05:49.30 | Torhal | Jerub: I was the one who yanked it off of Curse and informed Cairenn so it was yanked from WoWI as well. |
| 05:49.41 | Jerub | Torhal: i see ;) |
| 05:49.54 | Jerub | Cairenn told me off for trolling. |
| 05:49.57 | bluspacecow | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/default.aspx |
| 05:50.19 | bluspacecow | has GS as no#1 download if that means anything to you |
| 05:50.27 | bluspacecow | doesn't mean its any good of course |
| 05:50.27 | Jerub | australia is not a dangerous place and we don't have dangerous animals everywhere and we never say crikey |
| 05:50.31 | Jerub | but crikey http://twitpic.com/3phfi9 |
| 05:50.53 | RaydenUni | yikes |
| 05:50.55 | Torhal | The funny thing is, I never see anyone asking for someone's gear score since he changed it to be an ugly ElitistGroup ripoff. |
| 05:50.56 | orionshock | EG was good, lot better than GS |
| 05:51.08 | RaydenUni | fine |
| 05:51.10 | RaydenUni | i'd use EG if i could |
| 05:51.13 | RaydenUni | but i can't correct? |
| 05:51.49 | orionshock | Torhal, hey you go with what works. I think the mob approached him and told him to change it... and considering that EG is dated he figured if he did he might win back some points |
| 05:52.37 | bluspacecow | yeah the EG author left wow and afaik no ones picked up the slack |
| 05:52.44 | bluspacecow | for updating his addon |
| 05:52.46 | Jerub | i saw some work on it. |
| 05:52.50 | bluspacecow | or i could be wrong |
| 05:52.51 | Jerub | but i don't know if it continued. |
| 05:52.52 | bluspacecow | *shrug* |
| 05:53.11 | Jerub | the one reason i liked EG was it let me know immediately if someone was slack about gems+enchants or was in PVP gear |
| 05:53.23 | Jerub | because both those kinds of people generally fail at wow. |
| 05:53.30 | Stanzilla | Torhal: aw man, I just looked at recent screenshots and this thing really got ugly :/ (gs) |
| 05:53.32 | orionshock | the problem with a project that large is that it's very time consuming |
| 05:53.44 | RaydenUni | seeing what raids someone has done is nice |
| 05:53.53 | Jerub | RaydenUni: meh. irrelevent to me. |
| 05:54.12 | RaydenUni | i tried doing baradin hold with a tank the other day |
| 05:54.12 | Jerub | i always ask if they know the raid, and kick them after they can be seen to have lied. |
| 05:54.24 | RaydenUni | we failed at taunting off each other several times and then the group came up |
| 05:54.28 | RaydenUni | turns out he has no raid experience |
| 05:54.29 | Torhal | Stanzilla: Yep. It's like he took EG, squatted down over it, and defecated. Then replaced any sane code with his own. |
| 05:54.40 | RaydenUni | only been playing wow for about a month |
| 05:54.53 | Jerub | RaydenUni: and you're already at raiding level? |
| 05:55.01 | RaydenUni | Jerub, i raided in TBC and wrath |
| 05:55.03 | Jerub | it took me 6 months to get my first 80. |
| 05:55.04 | Jerub | oh right |
| 05:55.17 | orionshock | Torhal, u know he uses LibQTip in GS |
| 05:55.19 | RaydenUni | so i ahve experience raiding as a tank and managing threat and taunting in a raid environment |
| 05:55.29 | Torhal | orionshock: He used to. Doesn't in the 4.0 version |
| 05:55.29 | RaydenUni | this guy just needed more experience is all |
| 05:55.35 | orionshock | lol |
| 05:55.42 | RaydenUni | it explained why managing threat was so difficult when it shouldn't have been |
| 05:55.47 | RaydenUni | not his fault |
| 05:55.52 | RaydenUni | well, it was, but i don't blame him |
| 05:56.00 | orionshock | to be honest now a days the problem is that most people arn't interested in teaching others how to play. |
| 05:56.04 | orionshock | it's trial by fire |
| 05:56.08 | RaydenUni | i do |
| 05:56.09 | RaydenUni | :( |
| 05:56.23 | RaydenUni | it bugs me when i try to explain a fight and some dps is sitting there going "just pull already" |
| 05:56.27 | orionshock | your a rare exception |
| 05:56.45 | Torhal | orionshock: And when he _was_ using it, it was for a huge-ass scrolling list of stuff. Definitely not what it was designed for and I bet it chewed up frames. |
| 05:57.02 | RaydenUni | some mod i'm using is lagging tooltips |
| 05:57.05 | RaydenUni | i should find out which one |
| 05:57.17 | bluspacecow | binary search ftw |
| 05:57.25 | Primer | Where is Yssaril, dammit |
| 05:57.34 | Primer | Guess I'll write a bug |
| 05:57.57 | orionshock | tbh, while i understand the need and use for GS. I never needed it. |
| 05:58.08 | RaydenUni | bluspacecow, i think i'll start with the mods that affect tooltips, that i know of |
| 05:58.08 | Primer | Ever run a pug raid? |
| 05:58.16 | orionshock | when doing a pug i could size someone up before the pull and know if they are going to suck |
| 05:58.25 | RaydenUni | need and "makes life easier" are 2 different things |
| 05:58.27 | RaydenUni | how? |
| 05:58.33 | Primer | How about sizing up 24 others before even zoning in? |
| 05:58.39 | orionshock | RaydenUni, pure, adult-rated skill |
| 05:58.48 | RaydenUni | do explain, i would like to know how to do this |
| 05:58.53 | RaydenUni | although i must admit i am skeptical |
| 05:58.57 | Wobin | orionshock can determine bra size just by glancing |
| 05:59.03 | RaydenUni | omg |
| 05:59.17 | RaydenUni | gearscore added a HUGE hammer button in the middle of my screen for me to click on to scan people |
| 05:59.20 | orionshock | Wobin, wasn't going to tell the youngin that... but is mostly true |
| 05:59.51 | Wobin | orionshock: of course, it behooves you to give a manual check before passing judgement. There's no reason not to be professional about things |
| 05:59.51 | Jerub | the reason i liked EG was because it provided a litmus test for fail, but it was impossible to distinguish between talented raider and nubcake by gear levels so i ignore it. |
| 06:00.08 | Jerub | i mean, i ignore gear levels. |
| 06:00.39 | orionshock | RaydenUni, the secret ... watch the way they talk in vent / raid chat. observation gives away the scrubs really fast. |
| 06:00.44 | Wobin | I think by the time EG came out, every nub could be carried by the rest of the raid anyway |
| 06:01.18 | RaydenUni | i don't talk while waiting for a raid |
| 06:01.21 | RaydenUni | i just sit and wait |
| 06:01.28 | Jerub | Wobin: yes, but when i actually looked at lowest output members of the raid, i never saw the person with the lowest gear. |
| 06:01.43 | RaydenUni | the thing is your gear rating does mean something |
| 06:01.47 | RaydenUni | it's a hard cap on maximum dps |
| 06:01.52 | orionshock | RaydenUni, not really |
| 06:01.57 | Jerub | RaydenUni: nope, not at all. |
| 06:01.57 | RaydenUni | yes it is |
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| 06:02.07 | orionshock | dps is rather irrelevant if you can't move your ass out of the fire. |
| 06:02.16 | orionshock | survivability > dps |
| 06:02.19 | RaydenUni | but it is relevant if you h ave a 5 minute enrage timer |
| 06:02.26 | Jerub | RaydenUni: i have seen time after time the guy in blues out perform the guy in current tier raiding gear |
| 06:02.31 | RaydenUni | tell me how you are going to do argoloth without 71k dps |
| 06:02.37 | RaydenUni | Jerub, i don't disagree with that |
| 06:02.44 | RaydenUni | i didn't say > gear = > dps |
| 06:02.48 | RaydenUni | i said gear is a hardcap on max dps |
| 06:03.02 | RaydenUni | given a certain level of gear, there is a maximum dps you can attain |
| 06:03.10 | Jerub | RaydenUni: as a result, i refuse to refuse a raid member based on gear. i perfer to have a quick chat with them, and make sure they're in reasonable enchants+gems |
| 06:03.27 | orionshock | well.. no one really cares about theoretical caps... the important part is the realistic performance. |
| 06:03.28 | Jerub | becaues someone who cares about their gear enough to enchant+gem it cares enough to learn to play |
| 06:03.37 | RaydenUni | Jerub, so you'd take someone in greens who has all the right enchants to a 25 man raid? |
| 06:03.47 | Jerub | and is a signficantly better indicator than gear. |
| 06:03.51 | Jerub | let me think for a moment. |
| 06:03.53 | Jerub | YES. |
| 06:04.18 | RaydenUni | to a progression 25 man raid? |
| 06:04.26 | RaydenUni | i agree that player skill counts for more than gear |
| 06:04.26 | Jerub | if i saw someone in perfect enchants and gems, and they happened to be in mostly greens, i'd jump to have them. it's probably an alt of a good raider who can potentially raidlead fights or offer insight. |
| 06:04.34 | RaydenUni | but it doesn't change that given certain gear, some things are not possible |
| 06:04.52 | orionshock | RaydenUni, Jerub , now now... lets not get stupid here.. there is a vast difference between progression raiding and pug'ing |
| 06:05.00 | RaydenUni | and in an encounter where having a certain raid dps means the difference between a wipe and a down, it matters |
| 06:05.02 | orionshock | GS is ment for pugging not progression raiding |
| 06:05.27 | RaydenUni | argoloth rquires what 71.5k dps? |
| 06:05.28 | Jerub | granted. |
| 06:05.34 | RaydenUni | 10k avg per person? |
| 06:05.45 | RaydenUni | can you pull 10k dps in greens? |
| 06:05.47 | Wobin | # Improved Power Word: Shield change reverted |
| 06:05.51 | Wobin | reverted from -what-? |
| 06:05.58 | Jerub | when i first dinged 85? i was pulling only 9k. |
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| 06:06.39 | pompy | Wobin: " "Three new enchants are available. They increase Agility by 50, Strength by 50, or Intellect by 50 respectively. Item level 300 or higher required. These new recipes are rare world drops."" .. even better |
| 06:06.40 | RaydenUni | i totally agree with you guys that using GS to prevent people access to your group is often complete bullshit |
| 06:06.53 | RaydenUni | but i also disagre that looking at someone's gear is completely worthless |
| 06:07.31 | Jerub | but, in the synthetic situation that RaydenUni suggested, do i as a progression raidleader invite the perfectly enchanted level 85 toon to a 25man when he's in mostly greens, the answer is resolutely yes, because only someone who knows how to play would know what enchants to use, and would be insane enough to put them on his green gear in order to jump straight into raids. |
| 06:08.06 | orionshock | RaydenUni, sorry he's got a point |
| 06:08.20 | orionshock | i've seen plenty of skilled and crazy people pull some amazing shit off |
| 06:08.26 | RaydenUni | it still doesn't change the fact that he'll have significantly lower health and armor, will potentially drain your healers more, and do less dmg |
| 06:08.36 | RaydenUni | i don't disagree |
| 06:08.53 | RaydenUni | that someone who really knows what he's doing and has put forth the effort to be as good as he can is invaluable |
| 06:09.22 | orionshock | RaydenUni, but your scenario is so asinine it is not funny. name one serious group that pugs progression raiding? |
| 06:09.50 | RaydenUni | i've seen groups fail argoloth due to not enough dps |
| 06:09.56 | orionshock | unless i didn't get the memo and all raid content got shat upon by blizzard to the lvl of pugable worthless content |
| 06:10.23 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:10.37 | Jerub | orionshock: to be fair, i'm a hardcore pugger. i've been pugged into many guilds progression raids. but the only way i get positions like that is off the back of my own rep. |
| 06:10.48 | orionshock | GS still dosn't help by telling you your DPS cap when a player lacking skill cannot perform to it |
| 06:11.26 | RaydenUni | what? |
| 06:11.34 | orionshock | Jerub, being invited by another high ranking guild to a progression raid, when your in an already ranking guild on the same raid dosn't really count as pug |
| 06:12.00 | Jerub | orionshock: you misunderstand. my guild doesn't raid. |
| 06:12.20 | RaydenUni | i have two people to invite to my PUG, one is in all greens, one is in all purples that are from raids |
| 06:12.25 | Jerub | orionshock: i just got into progression raids because they knew my raid save wouldn't be locked and i can consistently not stand in fire. |
| 06:12.29 | orionshock | RaydenUni, GS is pointless as an addon it tells you a meaningless number. Performance is the only real factor. If a player cannot perform to the GS indicated does it matter what their GS is? |
| 06:12.36 | RaydenUni | all other things being equal, the guy in purples will probably do better |
| 06:12.54 | RaydenUni | orionshock, yes but i can't tell someone to plz go whack on a dummy for 5 minutes while i look at their dps |
| 06:13.01 | RaydenUni | or send me videos of them not standing in fire |
| 06:13.11 | RaydenUni | i disagree that it's worthless data |
| 06:13.15 | orionshock | but the one in greens needs to go pull his head out of his ass and realize he's not ready for raids... |
| 06:13.19 | RaydenUni | it may not be the most important, but it does add something |
| 06:13.27 | Jerub | oh that's a point |
| 06:13.29 | RaydenUni | orionshock, so you're determining something purely based on his gear |
| 06:13.37 | Jerub | i like to see people wearing gear from the raid they're pugging for |
| 06:13.40 | Jerub | that's always a good indication |
| 06:14.12 | RaydenUni | i'm not saying "lawl, this guy's gear is crap, don't invite him, he must be a noob" |
| 06:14.28 | RaydenUni | didnt EG tell you what raids they've done across all toons? |
| 06:14.29 | orionshock | RaydenUni, no but when one goes to war, it's always a good idea to have a gun or 3 instead of a slingshot :) |
| 06:14.53 | Jerub | RaydenUni: i think it may've, i've never bothered to use that feature |
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| 06:15.15 | orionshock | i often times determine the worth of a player with in about 40 sec of them joining the group or on trash pulls. |
| 06:15.40 | orionshock | or how they talk on vent... i've got a keen intuition :) |
| 06:15.53 | RaydenUni | all i'm saying is that i think "gearscore is completely worthless" is more of a kneejerk reaction that anything else |
| 06:17.45 | orionshock | well... in theory and used properly GS is a nice tool.. but it was used and abused to the point of absurdity and gotten a bad rap for that |
| 06:19.21 | RaydenUni | i agree |
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| 06:24.26 | RaydenUni | rating buster is slow |
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| 06:54.20 | RaydenUni | apparently there is a new auction scanning api that makes scanning auctions fast |
| 06:54.31 | RaydenUni | i've been using the "old" 10 minute way on auctioneer apparently |
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| 06:54.47 | Jerub | it takes about 2 minutes with auctioneer if you use the fastforward button |
| 06:54.54 | Jerub | which has been there since i started using it in 3.1 |
| 06:55.39 | RaydenUni | i wasn't aware of it |
| 06:55.49 | orionshock | been there for a while |
| 06:55.55 | orionshock | but only gives data every 15mins |
| 06:56.35 | RaydenUni | i clicked scan |
| 06:56.43 | RaydenUni | since there was a great big button for it |
| 06:56.56 | RaydenUni | why is there a regular scan button in addiction to the fast scan? |
| 06:59.00 | Jerub | i use the regular scan for small sections |
| 06:59.11 | Jerub | like, 'blue gems' or consumables, item enchants |
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| 07:14.57 | Fisker | why do nevcairiel suddenly get killed |
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| 07:20.02 | Wobin | also in high latency large servers |
| 07:20.08 | Wobin | the fastscan can crash your connection |
| 07:21.36 | Mikk | Wobin: that's not necessarily true as of 4.0 |
| 07:21.50 | Mikk | They seem to have reduced the transmission speed by quite a bit, possibly even batched it |
| 07:22.30 | Wobin | Mikk: I've not tried it for a while |
| 07:22.39 | Wobin | cause it kept crashing me =) |
| 07:22.47 | Mikk | HOWEVER, there's another problem now. The GetAll API only seems to work until 40-50k items or so. And now there's so many idiots posting single stacks that high pop servers hit that limit. |
| 07:23.21 | Mikk | s/items/auctions/ |
| 07:23.23 | Mikk | thanks purl |
| 07:23.23 | purl | Mikk: de nada |
| 07:23.28 | Mikk | facepalms |
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| 07:26.56 | Mikk | Wobin: please do try get getall/fastscan again, it'd be "interesting" |
| 07:28.29 | Mikk | i've heard good stuff in #norganna - and there's plenty of aussies there |
| 07:30.08 | Fisker | maybe they don't have poor connections |
| 07:30.10 | Fisker | hoho |
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| 07:31.35 | Wobin | well the ones living around norganna atm will =( |
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| 07:37.58 | Fisker | you're not the boss of me |
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| 07:42.36 | Wobin | Mikk: took about 7min |
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| 07:57.09 | Shirik | it can? |
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| 08:11.16 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 08:11.22 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 08:11.22 | Fisker | i can remote in from work again |
| 08:11.26 | Shirik | yay |
| 08:11.36 | Fisker | what can you do? |
| 08:11.50 | Repo | 10fishwarden: 03x87bliss * r47 / (3 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 08:11.51 | Repo | v4.0.3.17_beta3 |
| 08:11.52 | Repo | Please help translate (NOT WITH GOOGLE) |
| 08:11.53 | Repo | I still need 17 Spanish, 14 Korean, and 13 French, German, Russian and Chinese phrases translated from English. |
| 08:11.55 | Repo | http://www.wowace.com/addons/fishwarden/localization/ |
| 08:12.55 | Repo | 10fishwarden: 03x87bliss 04v4.0.3.17_beta3 * r48 : Tagging as v4.0.3.17_beta3 |
| 08:12.57 | Fisker | is he like google racist omg? |
| 08:13.19 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7839 Blackwing (2 files in 1 directory): Blackwing: Add disabled enrage timers for 4.0.6 |
| 08:14.39 | dieck | no, but I can understand him :) Though real person translators don't make things better in any case. I switched from german WoW to english when my Dwarf logged into Eisenschmiede the first time. You don't translate proper names. |
| 08:16.40 | dieck | I have to admit, I like "Süderstade" for Southshore, though -- but only if pronounced Stade with a northern german "s-t" instead of the common "scht" :) |
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| 08:19.34 | sbu | morning |
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| 08:20.38 | sbu | @describe healers-have-to-die |
| 08:20.39 | Repo | sbu: http://www.wowace.com/addons/healers-have-to-die/. Healers have to die. A simple Add-on that rings when you hover or target an enemy healer. It also adds a red cross above their name plates. |
| 08:20.51 | sbu | ah, pvp addon - okay then :p |
| 08:21.29 | apejens | perhaps it also flags PvE healers? |
| 08:22.43 | Fisker | i hate kids listening to music on a mobile with the music turned all up |
| 08:26.19 | sbu | well |
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| 08:29.43 | mitch0 | morgen |
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| 08:31.28 | wink | i hate kids |
| 08:31.30 | wink | fixed |
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| 09:29.16 | mitch0 | didum |
| 09:30.57 | sbu | yea |
| 09:32.42 | mitch0 | erm |
| 09:33.08 | mitch0 | wowhead says that the heirloom items add xp to quests, too. but my testing yesterday showed otherwise. what's the deal? |
| 09:33.21 | mitch0 | or when is the quest xp calculated? when you pick up the quest? |
| 09:33.50 | mitch0 | or the lvl80 items don't work for 81-85 quests? |
| 09:34.03 | mitch0 | or they don't work when you're above 80? |
| 09:34.06 | mitch0 | or ...? |
| 09:35.40 | Kalroth | heirloom items only work from 1-80 |
| 09:35.41 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 09:35.42 | Kalroth | I think? |
| 09:35.52 | Kalroth | there's a robe that works up until 85 though |
| 09:35.56 | Kalroth | er, cloak |
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| 09:36.55 | selckin | mitch0: tested 2 days ago, work on quests below 80 |
| 09:37.08 | selckin | above 80 you only currently have to cloak from guild level |
| 09:37.09 | Kalroth | wowhead items even says 1-80 |
| 09:37.14 | Kalroth | yup |
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| 09:38.03 | mitch0 | :( |
| 09:38.09 | mitch0 | so much for my great addon idea ;) |
| 09:39.05 | mitch0 | although it could still be useful for el-cheapo guys. the idea was to equip all +xp items at quest turnin. but now it'd be only useful if you had a cloth item for a warrior, for example |
| 09:40.46 | selckin | i think 5% xp is worth giving up a slot of dps stats anyway |
| 09:41.29 | selckin | but cba doing the math |
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| 10:03.44 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Elkano * r337 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 10:03.45 | Repo | updated Misc.Bag.* and Misc.Container.ItemsInType.* for Cataclysm |
| 10:03.46 | Repo | renamed Misc.Bag.Jewelcrafting -> Misc.Bag.Gems |
| 10:03.47 | Repo | added mining for Tackle Bags |
| 10:03.48 | Repo | ~lart wobin |
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| 10:26.20 | Wobin | Elkano: haha, I kept trying! |
| 10:26.27 | Wobin | but wowhead wouldn't give me the 'contained in' |
| 10:26.33 | Wobin | cause they changed stuff I think |
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| 10:50.50 | Elkano | wobin, I didn't change the miner code itself, just added the ids |
| 10:50.59 | Elkano | so you did something wrong then ^^ |
| 10:51.02 | Wobin | for contains in? |
| 10:51.34 | Elkano | well, Misc.Container.ItemsInType. just uses one of the bags from that type |
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| 11:46.28 | Repo | - Added consolidation filters (still very rough and incomplete, expect a lot of stuff to break with it active) |
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| 12:28.23 | Repo | 10head-count-2: 03kagaro 07master * v1.0.4-2-g1dbeb60 BossDetection.lua: [+1 commit] Added another event to monitor fight stops |
| 12:30.42 | sbu | @describe head-count-2 |
| 12:30.44 | Repo | sbu: http://www.wowace.com/addons/head-count-2/. HeadCount2. Manages tracking of raid attendance, loot, and more. |
| 12:30.50 | sbu | oh, that one is working again? |
| 12:34.14 | steev | can it track if there isn't master looter/you aren't? |
| 12:34.21 | steev | our guild runs based off, well, trust mostly |
| 12:34.24 | kagaro | sbu yeah i re-wrote for cata |
| 12:34.31 | sbu | nice :) |
| 12:34.42 | steev | so the items all pop up like a heroic dungeon's loot |
| 12:34.44 | kagaro | steev: yeah it just listens for loot event to track it |
| 12:34.58 | steev | cool |
| 12:35.01 | kagaro | it doesnt track in 5 mans steev just raids |
| 12:35.03 | steev | i might have to check that out |
| 12:35.07 | steev | yeah, we're raiding |
| 12:35.23 | steev | just that we do a /roll and then whomever wins that rolls need/greed and everyone else passes |
| 12:36.56 | steev | the comments on GC's blog post are priceless, i was considering responding myself |
| 12:37.34 | Kalroth | I loved the "L2P" parts |
| 12:38.31 | Kalroth | I've never understood why players can't visit normal instances and learn the fights before queueing up for heroics and wiping us all |
| 12:39.28 | steev | cuz heroics are where the phat lewt is |
| 12:40.00 | Kalroth | yeah, but they're either undergeared or too dumb for the encounters |
| 12:40.11 | Wobin | Elkano: yes, but wowhead no longer puts the contains in on the page itself |
| 12:40.21 | Wobin | so each time I was running the dataminer, it'd come up empty |
| 12:40.48 | Elkano | sure they don't? |
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| 12:41.07 | Wobin | I couldn't get it to register no matter what I tried |
| 12:41.20 | Repo | 10lib-st: 03ddumont * r139 Core.lua: |
| 12:41.21 | Repo | 26 - Changing cols with SetDisplayCols gives an error and fails |
| 12:41.27 | Wobin | and the fact there are 30 pages kinda nipped the whole 'I'll just type them in' solution in the bud |
| 12:41.36 | Elkano | http://www.wowhead.com/item=60218#can-contain |
| 12:41.52 | Wobin | ok, now get the dataminer to read it |
| 12:42.00 | Wobin | cause all I was getting was the comments |
| 12:42.44 | Elkano | new Listview({template: 'item', id: 'can-contain', name: LANG.tab_cancontain, tabs: tabsRelated, parent: 'lkljbjkb574', data: [...]}) |
| 12:43.04 | kagaro | wow massive buff to imp deathstrike |
| 12:43.07 | Wobin | I think the dataminer was only using http://www.wowhead.com/item=60218 |
| 12:43.14 | Wobin | which doesn't have that information |
| 12:43.28 | Elkano | it does |
| 12:43.45 | Elkano | the #... is just an anchor, doesn't change the page |
| 12:44.05 | Wobin | I don't know why my dataminer wasn't picking anything up then |
| 12:44.16 | Wobin | as long as yours did, that's fine =P |
| 12:44.17 | Elkano | no idea either, for me it worked |
| 12:44.18 | kagaro | Wobin you trying to datamine wowhead? |
| 12:44.24 | Wobin | absolutely! |
| 12:44.30 | Wobin | with a diamond pick |
| 12:44.33 | kagaro | @describe datatools |
| 12:44.34 | Repo | kagaro: No project found that matches 'datatools' |
| 12:44.43 | Wobin | kagaro: no, I'm using pt3 |
| 12:44.45 | kagaro | @describe data-tools |
| 12:44.47 | Repo | kagaro: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/data-tools/. DataTools. Ruby base classes for data gathering. Currently contains base classes for wowdb. They are inteded asa base class setup for wr... |
| 12:44.54 | Wobin | to get a tacklebox into PT |
| 12:45.09 | kagaro | ahh kk |
| 12:45.21 | Elkano | maybe one should update data-tool's description... wowdb... |
| 12:45.24 | kagaro | datatools has full support for wowhead just letting you know |
| 12:45.40 | kagaro | ill do that today elkano |
| 12:45.48 | kagaro | work time |
| 12:58.50 | jnwhiteh | Some knowledge-base articles for the git integration on Wowinterface, for those who use it: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/faq.php?faq=git |
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| 13:51.14 | Repo | 2370fb0: Updated the README file. |
| 13:51.15 | Repo | fbb9f92: Icons: fixed border color and countdown position. |
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| 14:23.55 | sbu | @describe adiccmonitor |
| 14:23.56 | Repo | sbu: http://www.wowace.com/addons/adiccmonitor/. AdiCCMonitor. Crowd-control monitor |
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| 14:36.05 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/inspectdetail/. InspectDetail. stolenlegacy (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Ackis. |
| 14:36.11 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/whichrankdoeswhat/. Which Rank Does What. Farmbuyer (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
| 14:36.16 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/adiccmonitor/. AdiCCMonitor. Adirelle (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
| 14:38.56 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: ping |
| 14:39.06 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/sheepdog/. SheepDog. Archarodim (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Ackis. |
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| 14:42.45 | Ackis | @project sam |
| 14:42.46 | Repo | Ackis: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/sam/. Shaker's Archaeology Mod. Game: WoW. InsaneTapeworm (Manager/Author). Updated: 4 days ago |
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| 15:12.59 | Repo | Print the condensed money output to chat frames that have registered for it, not just the default chat frame. |
| 15:13.10 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis 07master * 2.1.0-30-g57fc52c Database/Enchanting.lua: [+1 commit] 4.0.6 enchanting recipe info updated. They're rare boe world drops. |
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| 15:15.08 | kagaro|work | @descrive data-tools |
| 15:15.14 | kagaro|work | @describe data-tools |
| 15:15.15 | Repo | kagaro|work: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/data-tools/. DataTools. Ruby base classes for data gathering and extraction. Currently contains base classes for wowhead and wow DBC files. They are ... |
| 15:17.17 | jnwhiteh | I wonder if I should use data-tools for lightheaded |
| 15:17.18 | jnwhiteh | lol =) |
| 15:17.24 | jnwhiteh | my own parser just works |
| 15:18.04 | kagaro|work | if it works why change it |
| 15:18.11 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 15:18.35 | jnwhiteh | thank you for not adding comments to the library =) |
| 15:18.38 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 15:18.56 | kagaro|work | i put the project on curseforge so ackis could use it |
| 15:19.08 | kagaro|work | otherwise im the only user i think |
| 15:20.01 | kagaro|work | I may go back and add commetns later :P |
| 15:20.09 | jnwhiteh | bastage :P |
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| 15:23.19 | Ackis | I think he considered adding comments after the million questions I asked him :D |
| 15:25.23 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 15:26.16 | jnwhiteh | my PTR char copies still have not happened |
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| 15:33.28 | kagaro|work | Ackis is my hero |
| 15:33.43 | Ackis | uh oh |
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| 15:34.34 | kagaro|work | though i may have to switch back to joe pesci he answeres my prayers mroe often |
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| 16:30.08 | Megalon | http://imgur.com/wh1gG.jpg |
| 16:30.11 | Megalon | gosu captcha is gosu |
| 16:31.49 | Repo | 10broker-portals: 03CrazyBenny 041.8.18 * r145 : Tagging as 1.8.18 |
| 16:42.26 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r7841 / (8 files in 7 directories): deDE update and minor fixes. |
| 16:44.42 | steev | Megalon: i don't get it |
| 16:47.20 | Megalon | :( |
| 16:47.29 | Megalon | the captcha is plain text |
| 16:47.36 | Megalon | that is in front of a background image |
| 16:47.42 | Megalon | you can copy&paste it |
| 16:48.19 | Megalon | and in just a few hours the thread got 1k+ posts voting for brat_OK (russian sc2 player) ;> |
| 16:48.50 | Mihau | Oh. |
| 16:49.06 | Mihau | I thought the CAPTCHA was supposed to spell some thing out. |
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| 17:08.12 | groktar | one phrase i never want to hear from my boss ever again |
| 17:08.19 | groktar | 'you show me yours and i'll show you mine' |
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| 17:24.00 | kadrahil | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:24.34 | Fisker | kadrahil |
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| 17:48.57 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: your mark up for [i] is a bit messed up here http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/captainslog/ |
| 17:49.26 | jnwhiteh | why? |
| 17:49.36 | jnwhiteh | i blame wikicreole |
| 17:49.40 | jnwhiteh | ty |
| 17:49.58 | Ackis | :) you're welcome |
| 17:52.20 | jnwhiteh | CaptainsLog has too many options |
| 17:52.22 | jnwhiteh | but no GUI |
| 17:52.23 | jnwhiteh | do I care? |
| 17:52.24 | jnwhiteh | no! |
| 17:56.27 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r441 Buffs.lua: RaidBuffStatus: |
| 17:56.28 | Repo | - Removed Shadow and Resistance Aura check. It's not relevant any more. |
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| 18:09.00 | durcyn | more like wikicrapole, right |
| 18:10.17 | Parnic | i get it |
| 18:21.34 | Funkeh` | i think we can do better, surely |
| 18:21.42 | Funkeh` | ask Fisker |
| 18:31.31 | kadrahil | don't call me surely |
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| 18:39.38 | Repo | 10fambags: 03fammy2k * r51 / (5 files in 2 directories): v1.0.3 |
| 18:39.39 | Repo | * Error Fix: Ticket #39 |
| 18:40.20 | Repo | 10fambags: 03fammy2k 04v1.0.3 * r52 : Version: v1.0.3 |
| 18:40.21 | Repo | * Error Fix: Ticket #39 |
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| 18:49.04 | mckenziemc | Fisker |
| 18:56.37 | sylvanaar | vhaarr: pong |
| 19:18.35 | Fisker | wikicraphole |
| 19:18.37 | Fisker | LOLOLOL |
| 19:19.46 | Repo | 10big-wigs_common-auras: 03mojosdojo * r171 CommonAuras.lua: Ritual of Summoning/Souls ftw. |
| 19:21.16 | Ackis | fiskerwiki! |
| 19:26.05 | Fisker | don't you think Ackis looks tired? |
| 19:32.39 | sylvanaar | mckenziemc: i missed your message |
| 19:32.57 | sylvanaar | mckenziemc: nvm |
| 19:34.15 | mckenziemc | you mean my conjuring ritual? |
| 19:34.23 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 19:34.56 | sylvanaar | i was reading backwards, and didnt notice the question was from someone else |
| 19:36.21 | ccKep | [20:35:10] AceTimer-3.0: Warning: The addon/module 'table: 1F718450' has 1115 live timers. Surely that's not intended? <<< any way (apart from divine n conquer the addonlist) to find out which addon that is? |
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| 19:37.20 | sylvanaar | do you use prat |
| 19:37.26 | Fisker | Torhal |
| 19:37.27 | Fisker | don't you think Ackis looks tired? |
| 19:37.31 | ccKep | yeah I do |
| 19:37.41 | sylvanaar | do you have the debug module on |
| 19:37.46 | sylvanaar | er addon |
| 19:38.03 | ccKep | is that part of the high cpu package? |
| 19:38.08 | sylvanaar | no |
| 19:38.31 | sylvanaar | but i think prat messes up that print somehow, not sure though |
| 19:38.58 | ccKep | I dont seem to have a debug module in prat (can't find anything in the Module Control tab) |
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| 19:39.16 | sylvanaar | nah, i mean Prat-3.9_Debug the addon |
| 19:39.21 | ccKep | ah |
| 19:39.28 | sylvanaar | ok, do you have latest prat? |
| 19:39.28 | ccKep | will try that |
| 19:39.34 | ccKep | uhm, I'd think so |
| 19:39.35 | sylvanaar | no, dont try that |
| 19:39.40 | sylvanaar | ok |
| 19:40.00 | sylvanaar | well, you might try disabling prat and see if that lets the name of the addon print |
| 19:40.06 | ccKep | 3.4.14 according to CC |
| 19:40.26 | Torhal | Fisker: He looks tired of you killing men. |
| 19:40.35 | sylvanaar | i still dont know why prints are getting hosed like that |
| 19:40.44 | ccKep | going to try that once I'm ooc, thanks for the tip |
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| 19:41.16 | sylvanaar | i wonder if thats what vharr was going to ask about |
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| 19:53.21 | Fisker | why would be tired of that Torhal |
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| 20:00.24 | Ackis | why am I tired? |
| 20:05.58 | Torhal | Ackis: He once killed a man. Over and over. You're tired of it. Remember? |
| 20:06.55 | Ackis | oh |
| 20:09.57 | Fisker | no Ackis |
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| 20:11.57 | Parnic | fiskerfiskerfiskerfiskerfisker |
| 20:12.06 | Ackis | hey Bibi why so french? |
| 20:12.07 | Gagorian | nevcairiel: There's some reports about cold reboot problems with ASUS P8P67 series mobos.. Have you had any? |
| 20:12.07 | Parnic | what's the difference in a i7-2600 and i7-2600k? |
| 20:12.21 | Gagorian | K has multipliers unlocked so you can oc |
| 20:12.23 | Ackis | Parnic: one has a k, the other doesn't |
| 20:12.29 | Parnic | Ackis: i've missed you |
| 20:12.31 | Parnic | Gagorian: thanks :) |
| 20:12.33 | Bibi | Ackis: pourquoi tellement français??? |
| 20:12.41 | Ackis | Parnic: :D |
| 20:13.00 | Gagorian | nevcairiel: Cold boot that is |
| 20:13.07 | Ackis | lol Bibi |
| 20:13.17 | Parnic | is ddr4 a real thing yet or just some proof-of-concept stuff? |
| 20:15.39 | Gagorian | It's real but it's not for consumers |
| 20:16.12 | mojosdojo | Is the curse website broken? |
| 20:16.19 | Gagorian | Probably like 1½-2 years before they're on the market |
| 20:16.20 | Pneumatus | always |
| 20:16.24 | Pneumatus | in one way or another |
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| 20:16.50 | mojosdojo | no, I mean like REALLY broken |
| 20:17.17 | mojosdojo | just getting text and a few frames/tables, nothing more |
| 20:17.18 | Parnic | Gagorian: figures, so i'll buy a new mb and cpu now and then need another one in a year :P |
| 20:18.46 | Ackis | mojosdojo: it's not broken, it's what they call "Thursday" :D |
| 20:20.13 | mojosdojo | so it's the same thing as with wow's tuesday/wednesday after a patch? |
| 20:20.38 | Ackis | kinda |
| 20:20.45 | Ackis | but every Thursday and not just after patch days |
| 20:21.00 | mojosdojo | alright ;) |
| 20:32.17 | Pneumatus | hmm, is there an easy way to hide certain grid statuses in combat? |
| 20:34.54 | Fisker | Parnic |
| 20:35.08 | Parnic | wat |
| 20:35.32 | Fisker | the non-k has VT-d and TXT support too |
| 20:35.55 | Parnic | when are the 8-core sandy bridges with HT coming out? |
| 20:36.00 | Gnarfoz | never |
| 20:36.11 | Fisker | ivy bridge yo |
| 20:36.25 | Gnarfoz | intel 8C/16T? you kidding |
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| 20:54.39 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7842 Blackwing/Omnotron.lua: |
| 20:54.40 | Repo | Blackwing/Omnotron: No need for an extra deaths function, they all die at the same time, remove engage switch bar, already fired by switch function. Change switch bar to 45sec not 40. Make boss icon setting work and improve it, make chemical cloud /say work. |
| 20:58.56 | Repo | 10skillet: 03yossa * r243 / (6 files in 2 directories): Skillet: |
| 20:58.58 | Repo | - additional profession buttons (prospect, milling, camp fire) |
| 21:14.40 | Gnarfoz | I fucking hate Oracle |
| 21:15.48 | durcyn | still? |
| 21:16.00 | Gnarfoz | why would one stop hating Oracle |
| 21:22.29 | Repo | 10adiccmonitor: 03Adirelle 07master * 0.2 AdiCCMonitor.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed ticket #1. |
| 21:22.35 | Repo | 10adiccmonitor: 03Adirelle 040.2 * c8ef343 /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.2. |
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| 21:35.15 | Primer | I love oracle |
| 21:35.27 | Primer | I hope they finish off java once and for all |
| 21:35.37 | Primer | and mysql while they're at it |
| 21:37.35 | Repo | 10skillet: 03yossa * r244 SkilletQueue.lua: Skillet: |
| 21:37.36 | Repo | - auto use enchanting vellum |
| 21:40.23 | Repo | 10skillet: 03yossa 042.15 * r245 : Tagging as 2.15 |
| 21:42.49 | Kegan | where can I learn more about metatables and their use? I've read the pil but I want to learn more |
| 21:42.49 | Kegan | come to think of it the pil itself might have some resources, so I'll go check, but my request still stands, thanks : ) |
| 21:44.24 | Gnarfoz | Primer: acfsutil size: ACFS-03008: The volume could not be resized. Either the volume expansion's limit has been reached or ASM could not expand the storage. |
| 21:44.28 | Gnarfoz | >_> |
| 21:49.46 | Fisker | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
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| 22:05.24 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Maat * r7843 Bastion/TwilightAscendants.lua: |
| 22:05.26 | Repo | add some gravity crush spellId and make the warning come faster |
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| 22:44.58 | Primer | Gnarfoz: sounds like an underlying hardware issue |
| 22:45.05 | Primer | can hardly fault oracle for that |
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| 22:55.39 | Gnarfoz | Primer: what? no, it's not :p |
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| 22:59.38 | Primer | Gnarfoz: what kind of volume is it on? |
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| 23:00.20 | Gnarfoz | it itself is a volume |
| 23:00.29 | Primer | no, I mean, the disk |
| 23:00.38 | Primer | is it just on a raw block device? |
| 23:02.27 | harl | why would an aioi/bag addon cause lag when i buff myself while my inventory is open? |
| 23:06.29 | Gnarfoz | Primer: no, it's on a DataCore virtual volume |
| 23:06.41 | Gnarfoz | harl: insanely bad coding |
| 23:09.01 | Gnarfoz | Primer: the diskgroup is already 8TiB big, so that part worked, it can't really be the physical layer beneath it or the virtual layer on top of it |
| 23:10.00 | harl | Gnarfoz: i see. can you recommend an inventory addon that is, say, like Baggins, but treads a bit lighter on immediate game performance? |
| 23:10.17 | Gnarfoz | "like Baggins" is hard to suggest anything for |
| 23:10.22 | harl | (while i have to add that Baggins is not the same addon i mentioned in my question) |
| 23:11.40 | harl | well, by like Baggins i'm referring to basically any addon that can automatically sort my inventory into categories. |
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| 23:14.43 | Primer | Gnarfoz: perhaps it's one of those artificial limits oracle imposes on things. Back in the day, you couldn't have a data file larger than 32g |
| 23:15.00 | Primer | and your tablespaces would just suddenly be "out of space" |
| 23:15.11 | Primer | even with auto extend on |
| 23:15.43 | Gnarfoz | well, yes, there's a "can only resize a ADVM volume 5 times" limit (rather arbitrary, but obviously has a technical reason, because running acfs fsck on it can reset the counter) |
| 23:16.30 | Primer | but you have to dismount it to do that? |
| 23:16.36 | arkanes | oracle is the most fun! |
| 23:18.51 | Gnarfoz | Primer: exactly -_- |
| 23:19.44 | Gnarfoz | Primer: but there's no way anyone resized this volume at any point in time before now, so apparently, Oracle just wants to fuck us over |
| 23:20.53 | durcyn | or you're just being misled by an ambiguous error message. |
| 23:20.54 | arkanes | maybe you forgot to purchase the volume resize manager package |
| 23:20.58 | Primer | I always dealt with my oracle problems on my own. Boss refused to get a support contract, citing that we had already paid them a boatload for the software already |
| 23:21.27 | Primer | but that was in 9i |
| 23:21.35 | Primer | several years ago |
| 23:21.53 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Maat * r7844 / (3 files in 2 directories): fix up UNIT_HEALTH and UNIT_POWER |
| 23:22.26 | sbu | Caleb|: maloriak count doesnt reset on wipe / boss evade, so its -20 adds after some tries |
| 23:23.58 | arkanes | anyone know of an LDB plugin for the world state always on frame? |
| 23:24.04 | arkanes | and other info in that spot |
| 23:34.01 | Gnarfoz | Primer: support contract? you can't really get an Oracle license without getting the privilege to use metalink support ^^ |
| 23:49.31 | Torhal | harl: AdiBags |
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