IRC log for #wowace on 20110110

00:10.18Repo10adibags: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.3-beta-3-6-g4ba3a61 modules/TidyBags.lua: [+3 commits]
00:10.19Repo4ba3a61: Tidy Bags: some tweaks.
00:10.20Repo858b1a6: Fixed an issue where the tidy bags is disabled when it should not (ticket #74).
00:10.22Repoe07d606: Ensure we do not automatically tidy bags in combat.
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00:15.56Repo10autoequipquestitem: 03yssaril 07master * v1.0.0 Core.lua: [+1 commit] did some more testing nd finaly figured it out enjoy
00:16.01Repo10autoequipquestitem: 03yssaril 04v1.0.0 * 72f82a8 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.0.0
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00:18.37YssarilTorhal: ping
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00:32.19GnarfozHjalte: android something.something you mean, because 3.0 is for tablets? :o
00:33.26IbliseIs there any way to check to see if you discovered one of the epic archeology artifacts already?
00:33.38HjalteGnarfoz: In the Engadget interview the man said that 3.0 was also the vision for phones. Of course they might call it something else.
00:33.45Gnarfozoh, hm.
00:33.57Iblisethere is bug that allows you discover the epic item at low lvls but since you can't actually do it then it skips over it
00:34.07Iblisebut still marks you down as discovering it
00:34.08Gnarfozother sites figured from the trailer that it was tablets only, but I guess we'll know when it comes out
00:34.45HjalteI think it's fine that they are doing tablets, I just don't hope it's delaying the phone releases.
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00:54.01koaschtenanyone got an idea why TomTom chews so many cpu cycles? http://tinyurl.com/2ez9nm7
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01:00.51Gnarfozkoaschten: try "disable cpu", maybe that'll help! :D
01:01.07koaschtenhaha...
01:01.36koaschtenwhy should enabled cpu profiling increase the cpu use of tomtom to 30%
01:01.55Keganto what extent can you track buffs and debuffs on enemies currently? can you freely check against their buff stack if you have their ID? get accurate duration updates?
01:02.18Gnarfoznot that that was my point: in fact cpu profiling does in some cases distort which addon uses how much cpu...
01:02.28Gnarfozhowever, you should maybe poke jnwhiteh ;-)
01:02.37jnwhitehdon't use tomtom right now
01:02.40jnwhitehor disable the coordinate block
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01:02.44jnwhitehuse tomtomlite instead
01:02.52Gnarfoztomtomlite was even worse when I disabled it
01:02.55jnwhitehdisabling the coordinate block seems to help
01:03.01jnwhitehGnarfoz: ... huh/
01:03.09jnwhitehhow could it have been worse?
01:03.15GnarfozI told you about it, it crippled my fps whenever I came near a quest NPC
01:03.22jnwhitehI don't recall this
01:03.28Gnarfoznot sure why or how, I just disabled it
01:03.28jnwhitehI have know reports of this that I'ma ware of
01:03.32jnwhitehand I most CERTAINLY cannot reproduce it
01:03.37jnwhitehnor can any of the other many users I have :P
01:03.42jnwhitehkoaschten: disable the coordinate block and see if that helps you
01:03.52koaschtengonna try that now
01:03.53jnwhitehif you have archy installed as well, there are bugs in that that I don't know if they're fixed
01:04.10jnwhitehGnarfoz: I honestly have no recollection of this
01:04.26jnwhitehand there's no reason at all anything like that should happen, let alone be possible
01:04.30Gnarfozjnwhiteh: whatever it was, I'll check if I can reproduce it when I level my next alt
01:04.51Gnarfoz(while it actually happened only after I was 85 already, so... I have no clue)
01:05.07Gnarfozbut what's wrong with TomTom, then?
01:05.10jnwhitehwell I levelled from 80 - 85 with it
01:05.12jnwhitehthere's a bug
01:05.12koaschtenhow is archy interacting with tomtom?
01:05.15jnwhitehbecause of astrolabe changing
01:05.25jnwhitehkoaschten: its causing a race condition on WORLD_MAP_UPDATE
01:05.27jnwhitehso its not technically
01:05.33jnwhitehI use Archy just fine
01:05.38jnwhitehsome users experience this problem
01:05.43koaschtenhmpf
01:05.46jnwhitehand I have not had all that much time to dig into it
01:05.50Gnarfozkoaschten: awesome coding on immobilienscout24: "Ihre Suchkriterien: 1 - 99.999.999,99 Zimmer, ab 35 m² Wohnfläche, [...]"
01:06.01jnwhitehI'm off to bed, as always, please report issues in the normal way
01:06.01Gnarfozjnwhiteh: digging into Archy...? I see what you did there
01:06.10jnwhitehno, i will not dig into their code
01:06.13koaschtensuggestions? wipe tomtom, archy including their wtf?
01:06.13jnwhitehits their problem to fix
01:06.17jnwhitehno
01:06.19jnwhitehdon't use tomtom
01:06.20koaschtenand then get them fresh?
01:06.22jnwhitehyou probably don't need it
01:06.24jnwhitehuse tomtomlite
01:06.30jnwhitehif not, disable what you don't need in TomTom
01:06.33koaschtenok
01:06.39jnwhitehand wait for me to, or help me fix it
01:06.43jnwhitehlet alone identify the problem =)
01:06.51Gnarfozjnwhiteh: meh, I guess the pun was not intended then, if you don't even recognize it when it's being held under your nose ;P
01:06.59jnwhitehunfortunately astrolabe had to change drastically and those changes broke a number of assumptions that were previously made
01:07.11jnwhitehindeed Gnarfoz, indeed =)
01:07.17jnwhitehi'm vry vry tired
01:07.27koaschtensleep well then :)
01:11.48Gnarfozmeh
01:12.11Gnarfozthese sites should have a "internet connectivity" search criteria
01:14.06ccKepaye, paragon killed nef25 heroic ^.^
01:16.03koaschtenpic?
01:16.20ccKephttp://www.paragon.fi/node/202
01:16.23ccKep11 druids ^.^
01:16.32Gnarfoz(old news!)
01:16.55Gnarfozand I still wonder what the deal with the druids was
01:17.01ccKeproot the adds?
01:17.04koaschtenabusing strange scaling on feral bleeds is awesome
01:17.48Gnarfozmoar deeps?
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01:21.09Iblisebalance actually
01:21.27Gnarfozman, internet connectivity /sucks/ in this place
01:21.55Xinhuananyone would like to help me get a list of every horde flightmaster's link to every other horde flightmaster?
01:22.13Xinhuanon EK and kalimdor only
01:22.40Gnarfozsorry, alliance
01:22.46koaschtenif you have an addon that scans while i do my archeology afk flying? sure
01:23.25Gnarfozyou use flightmasters while doing archeology?
01:23.39Repo10broker-guildmoney: 03Rabbit * r31 broker.lua:
01:23.40RepoYOU_LOOT_MONEY_GUILD is used when you are grouped with people who are far away, not LOOT_MONEY_SPLIT_GUILD.
01:23.55Xinhuanno i just want to update my addon's database
01:23.57Xinhuanof flightmasters
01:24.05Gnarfozyeah, I meant koaschten
01:24.53koaschtensure, if i am going from winterspring to like desolace... i am lazy, i hop on a flightmaster and burn money while reading irc/forums/watch tv ;)
01:25.10Xinhuanwhat i need is someone to visit every single flightmaster
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01:25.18Xinhuanclick on him and tell me somehow where he links to
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01:28.18koaschtenXinhuan Elizil Wintermoth ( Grove of Aessina ) : Shrine of Aviana, Hyjal | Nordrassil, Hyjal
01:28.42koaschtenand tomtomlite is definitly too lite for me, i dont even get an arrow
01:29.08Xinhuanif you are actually going to visit every flightmaster, might be easier if u put that into a text file and pastey it later ;p
01:29.19Xinhuanonly need horde data, i don't have horde char :(
01:29.56Xinhuanalso u can omit the zone name and npc name lol
01:30.26koaschtenhow do you identify which connects to where?
01:30.32XinhuanGrove of Aessina : Shrine of Aviana, Nordrassil
01:30.35Xinhuani use the map
01:30.36Xinhuan:P
01:30.47Xinhuani already have the locations of all the flightmasters
01:30.52Xinhuani just want the links
01:31.06Xinhuanso the above would tell me, oh i should add 2 lines to the map
01:31.17koaschtenwell as i said, if you write a small data gathering addon, i surely will fly around for you ,) but i am definitly too lazy to do it manualy ;)
01:31.39Xinhuani dont' think its even possible to record where it links to, is it?
01:31.53koaschtenno clue? :)
01:31.56Xinhuansince u could technically fly -everywhere-
01:32.00kagaroyou ould scape wowhead for flightmaster x,y coords
01:32.04Xinhuanbut i only want the one-hop stops
01:32.14Xinhuani'm not interested in the x,y kagaro
01:32.16Xinhuani want the links
01:32.41vhaarrXinhuan: do you still pay a fee each hop? because I seem to remember hearing the ka-ching sound per hop, but that might've been some time ago
01:32.49Xinhuanya u still do
01:32.55vhaarrif so you can check if the player is on taxi and for money changes
01:32.56koaschtenthere are some taximap events firing when opening the window
01:33.12Xinhuanbut that wouldn't give me complete data
01:33.24vhaarrplayer x/y coords + zone at money change
01:33.26vhaarrsounds fine to me
01:33.57Xinhuanif X links to 3 other flightmasters
01:34.02Xinhuanyou would need to fly all 3 routes
01:34.07Xinhuanto record it
01:34.13Xinhuanthat takes way more time than manually doing it
01:35.32koaschtenthere is a lot of taxi events
01:35.45koaschtennodename, nodeposition
01:36.35koaschtenhmmm
01:36.47Xinhuanwhat i did in the past is borrow someone's horde account lol... for the PTR
01:36.57Xinhuankinda worked
01:37.52Xinhuandoes the current PTR have premade copies?
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01:40.12Parnicthe option exists on the account page, but i haven't tried it yet
01:42.40HjalteWhy do I keep joining random groups thinking the next one will be better?
01:43.30koaschteni cant even get a download link for the ptr client -.-
01:43.36koaschtenstupid euro web admins
01:43.45Parnichit the 'public test' button on the main launcher
01:44.21Parnicer, menu entry, rather. they moved it.
01:45.14koaschtenwhich takes me to "download public test" -> which links me to http://www.wow-europe.com/en/ptr
01:45.34Parnicalrighty :)
01:45.58koaschtenwhich then links me to wow-europe.com/ptr which forces me to login and then links me to the client download at http://us.battle.net/wow/en/media/
01:46.05koaschtenand now you tell me where to download the ptr client ;)
01:46.42Parnichttps://us.battle.net/account/management/download/
01:46.48Parnicor eu, w/e
01:47.22Parnicand if that doesn't work, then i'm done helping! ;)
01:49.58koaschtenTHAT works
01:50.00koaschten....
01:50.17Parnicgood, cause i'm done helping anyway
01:50.28Parnictake that.
02:01.52koaschtenXinhuan Everlook -> Moonglade, Nordrassil, Orgrimmar, Bilgewater Harbor
02:08.39Gnarfozand you're certain you have all flight paths discovered? :P
02:11.20koaschtenpretty much ;) since the map shows flightpoints
02:12.24koaschtenbtw anyone know if they plan to fix the "lag" on zone changes with many quests/achievements on the objectives tracker?
02:12.42HjalteI've installed an addon that makes a "ding" sound at seemingly random moments
02:15.17koaschtenholy shit splintertree post....
02:15.44GnarfozHjalte: good on you!
02:16.36ParnicHjalte: find in files "playsound" :P
02:17.43koaschtenXinhuan: Splintertree Post -> Crossroads, The Mor'Shan Ramparts, Silverwind Refuge, Hellscream's Watch, Zoram'Gar Outpost, Emerald Sanctuary, Valormok, Bilgewater Harbor, Orgrimmar
02:21.19koaschtenXinhuan: Silverwind Refuge -> Hellscream's Watch, Krom'gar Fortress, The Mor'shan Ramparts, Splintertree Post
02:30.36Repo10ingelasrapture: 03ingela * r41 / (2 files in 1 directory): Cleaned up some code
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02:49.15Repo10onechoice: 03Kaelten * r12 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fixed heirloom items
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03:03.44durcyn~wowalert
03:03.45purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
03:20.23Repo10ingelasrapture: 03ingela 04v1.9 * r42 : Tagging as v1.9
03:30.04HjalteI just did a few dailies. I got guild experience but no guild rep. Is there a cap for guild rep as well?
03:31.31JerubHjalte: yes.
03:31.36JerubHjalte: it will show in the tooltip in 4.0.6
03:32.02Ingelawtb 4.0.6 already
03:33.13Gnarfoz3500/week
03:39.14Jerubour guild priest is 53 rep away from honored
03:39.15Jerubhe's annoyed
03:45.41Repo10brez: 03funkydude * r16 bRez.lua: Make the resurrection limit countdown work, cleanups.
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04:04.54Repo10onechoice: 03Kaelten * r13 main.lua: a better heirloom display, i hope
04:11.44durcynshoulda got mr popularity
04:17.12Repo10badboy_guilded: 03funkydude * r26 / (2 files in 1 directory): another trigger
04:17.57Repo10badboy_guilded: 03funkydude 04v1.22 * r27 : Tagging as v1.22
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04:38.18Ingelaquiescens, http://i.imgur.com/qTLPM.gif
04:38.21Ingelamy repsonse to your moo
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06:09.53Repo10fishwarden: 03x87bliss * r43 / (15 files in 3 directories):  (Message trimmed by 9 lines)
06:09.54Repov4.0.3.17_beta
06:09.55RepoPlease help translate (NOT WITH GOOGLE)
06:09.56RepoI still need 17 Spanish, 14 Korean, and 13 French, German, Russian and Chinese phrases translated from English.
06:09.57Repohttp://www.wowace.com/addons/fishwarden/localization/
06:11.39Repo10fishwarden: 03x87bliss 04v4.0.3.17_beta * r44 : Tagging as v4.0.3.17_beta
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06:25.14HjalteWobin: Using Heyfu r106. It appears to still need ace2 even though the overview text states it has been moved to ace3?
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07:11.03FiskerTorhal
07:11.06Fiskeri will be forced to end you
07:14.48Fiskernevcairiel quick
07:14.52Fiskermy package is being packaged
07:15.20Repo10adibags: 03Adirelle 04v1.3-beta-4 * f533901 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.3-beta-4.
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07:35.48Repo10minimap-target: 03Adirelle 04v1.6.1 * r61 : Tagging as v1.6.1
07:36.03mitch0yo
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07:36.37mitch0@describe minimap-target
07:36.38Repomitch0: http://www.wowace.com/addons/minimap-target/. MinimapTarget. Right-click on minimap blips to open a targeting menu (out of combat).
07:40.37Repo10talented: 03jerry * r719 / (4 files in 2 directories): Apply Ticket-143. Thanks fbrevoort.
07:40.38RepoSome small fixes to Action Menu to simplify the process of disabling target templates.
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07:41.18FiskerRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
07:41.39mitch0your fav shop went ATI only? :)
07:41.44Fiskerno
07:41.50mitch0erm, amd even
07:41.51mitch0w/e
07:41.55mitch0way to kill the joke
07:41.59Fiskerbut sofar they've lowered the price on the 2600k by 50€
07:42.04Fiskersince it was released yesterday
07:42.07Fisker:<
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07:46.24Elkanowhat's ATI? *trollface*
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07:48.43the-golemAtlantic Telephone, Inc.
07:48.49the-golem*serious face*
07:51.20sbuFisker: huh? what price are they at now?
07:51.22sbu250 eur?
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08:17.53Fiskeridk sbu
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08:18.46FiskerElkano have you seen all the sandy bridge cards that still say ATi Crossfire? :P
08:19.16Elkano^^
08:19.48Elkanobut thining about it, the first grafics "card" I had was already an ATI... Mach64 iirc
08:19.52Fiskeri'm raging
08:20.05Fiskerthe motherboards i want is not going to be out until february
08:20.07Fisker:<
08:20.33sbuFisker: whats the price in your shop?
08:20.48sbuah
08:21.04sbuwtf are you talking about -50 eur if you dont know the price!? :p
08:21.53Fiskerbecause i could only be bothered calculating the diff
08:22.38Fiskerbut it's about 300 euros now
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08:30.50Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7817 Bastion/TwilightAscendants.lua:
08:30.50RepoErr, yeah, don't forcefully reset arbitrary damage meter addons in random locations. wtf caleb :P
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08:58.16Repo10gnomeworks: 03lilsparky * r108 / (19 files in 3 directories): adjusted internal message passing system
08:58.17Repoadded message passing debug tool to assist in performance tuning (/gw debug)
09:18.07Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03MuffinManKen * r333 / (3 files in 3 directories): Added Rogue's Draught
09:18.08RepoSoul Shard bags are now an empty category. They don't exist anymore, but I don't want to remove the category since it might break some addons.
09:23.23Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03MuffinManKen * r334 / (2 files in 2 directories): added Fresh Water
09:23.24Repoupdated value of Mana Cake
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10:02.18Fiskerkoaschten
10:02.20Fiskeri'm fucked
10:02.32Megalonglad to here
10:02.51Fiskerhere?
10:02.56Megalonfinally someone had pity with you
10:02.58Megalonhear
10:02.59Megalon:x
10:03.28Megalonmy brain tends to type the first word that sounds like it sometimes ;<
10:04.12Fiskersame here :(
10:04.17Fisker(or same hear, get it?)
10:11.29Fisker:<
10:11.37Fiskerfixing a computer for someone at work
10:12.07Fiskeri click to clear my search history, but the top entry is "sex vido" D:
10:12.09quiescensdon't do it
10:15.47sbuFisker: so you fix a pc and use it to watch pr0n?
10:16.05Fiskernaw sbu
10:16.08Fiskerit wasn't me i swear
10:16.58Kalrothit was you!!
10:16.59Repo10gnomeworks: 03lilsparky * r109 MessageDispatch.lua: added missing lua file
10:17.20Elkanowho is currently maintaining SilverDragon?
10:17.31Kalrothdid you correct his spelling, Fisker?
10:21.26Fiskermaybe i should?
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10:44.31sylvanaar_workgood morning
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11:07.33sylvanaar_worki just made some good pu erh
11:07.52sylvanaar_workvery flavorful
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12:13.10selckinany addons to help with interrupt rotations?
12:14.01Xinhuankick macros
12:16.39harlwuff wuff
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12:35.37Repo10postmaster: 03Rabbit * r11 Postmaster.lua: Use the system color for addon prints, drycoded.
12:36.19Repo10postmaster: 03Rabbit * r12 Postmaster.lua: Fix drycode mistake.
12:36.30sbu@describe postmaster
12:36.33Reposbu: http://www.wowace.com/addons/postmaster/. Postmaster. Adds the ability to send mass mails to guild ranks.
12:36.47sbuyay, mass-hate-mails to guildies, nice
12:37.41vhaarrwait, print(...) will add a space between the arguments
12:37.42vhaarrbah
12:39.08Repo10postmaster: 03Rabbit * r13 Postmaster.lua:
12:39.09Repoprint(...) adds a space between arguments, we need to :format.
12:42.54TNSeIs it possible to read out the duration of dots down to milliseconds
12:43.06TNSeI need to test something heh
12:43.16TNSemaybe an addon already can read it out for me?
12:44.50selckinwhat can you possibly need with millisecond precision
12:47.03TNSeah
12:47.05TNSerefreshing of dots
12:47.13TNSeif I cast a dot over a dot what the real new length is
12:47.23TNSeright now I only got xperls
12:47.36TNSeand if I cast a 14s dot, an recast, I get a 17s dot that instantly turns to 16s
12:48.01selckinyou can recast just before the last tick and it'll increase to include that last tick in the new one
12:48.05selckin(for most classes)
12:48.09TNSeyes
12:48.18TNSeproblem is, most people on EJ seem to not know this
12:48.29selckinthey don't know a lot of stuff on ej
12:48.40selckinnot as good as it once was imo
12:48.41TNSeyes, but I wanted to educate them some, but I'd need some more hard evidence P:
12:49.07selckini blame wrath :/
12:49.16TNSeme too, but I'd still want to educate them a bit :P
12:49.20Kalrothuse combat log?
12:50.22winktekkub: poke
12:51.19TNSedoes combat log say how long the dots is?
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12:52.43TNSeNot sure if my connetion is stable enough and/or I'm on a stable enough server to rely on combat log timestamps
12:53.04vhaarrthe combat log is an approximation, a best-effort attempt at reflecting what really happened
12:53.06vhaarrit is never accurate
12:54.01TNSemm
12:54.30selckinthings are often out of order in them
12:54.51Kalrothwhat about ingame dots then? aren't they best-effort too then?
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12:55.44TNSeyes, but its less work for me :P
12:55.58TNSeand lets others replicate and test to confirm easier
12:56.08Kalrothso you'd rather code an addon than go through 20-30 lines of combat logs? :)
12:56.21TNSefor simplicity, thats why addons exist :P
12:56.33sylvanaar_worki think its easier to postprocess the combat log
12:56.53TNSethen I'd have to find a training dummy in a deso... oohh, darnassus :P
12:57.13selckinbecause you definitly can't filter by source type
13:03.09TNSethere is an option for timestamps in ingame combat log
13:03.14TNSebut I'm not getting any
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13:12.23selckinand look into the file
13:16.18sztanpetwhy isnt my curse login working for mmo-champion btw
13:16.39Kalrothbecause it is two different systems (still)
13:16.47sztanpetah
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13:20.37Fiskeryour mom is two different systems Kalroth
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13:28.40KalrothFisker: your mom is a non-Microsoft product
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13:37.49Elkanoyour mom can't even be addressed using 64bits...
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14:00.47KriLL3Elkano: well neither can an ant
14:01.17KriLL3main issue with teleportation atm, even if you could store people as data nothing we have fits an ant
14:03.18krkausing another interpretation of address, i think it's hard to find many people at all whose physical address can be encoded in 64 bits. that's just 8 characters in most character sets!
14:03.40krkaimagine if all the postal systems had to encode addresses in 64 bits
14:03.43krkait would be crazy
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14:09.13Repo10fambags: 03fammy2k * r45 / (3 files in 2 directories): v1.0.0
14:09.14Repo* Item quality and texture update bugs fixed
14:09.15Repo* Going release stage
14:10.06Repo10fambags: 03fammy2k 04v1.0.0-release * r46 : Version: v1.0.0-release
14:10.07Repo* Item quality and texture update bugs fixed
14:10.08Repo* Going release stage
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14:54.31sylvanaar_workwell, how about if each address was assigned an index, could the index be represented in 64 bits?
14:55.43selckinyes.
14:55.46Xinhuanwell 1 gb unique addresses
14:55.54krkasure, but imagine if everyone had to send mails by filling in a 64 bit number
14:55.55Xinhuanuh yeah quite
14:56.03Fiskerslaps Xinhuan around a bit with a large trout
14:56.19selckinyou have to send email by fillin gin a 3145343bit number
15:00.01sylvanaar_workwell, you could have the equivalent of DNS
15:00.04sylvanaar_worklol
15:00.25sylvanaar_workmaybe linked to their email address
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15:16.36Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03arith * r3195 TableRegister/loottables.lua: update AuchSethekkHalls loot table
15:19.41mitch0nev: thanks for the onkeydown toggle thing in BT4
15:23.15sylvanaar_workmitch0: did you see my question about bazooka
15:23.21mitch0no
15:23.37sylvanaar_workdoes bazooka move the minimap and default buffs down
15:23.43sylvanaar_workmine doesnt
15:23.52mitch0do you have "adjust frames" clicked?
15:23.58sylvanaar_workpretty sure i do
15:24.08mitch0have you installed the bundle, or did it by hand?
15:24.17sylvanaar_workuse CC
15:24.19mitch0(as in, svn checkout or some other evil thing like that :)
15:24.30mitch0make sure you have LibJostle
15:24.37sylvanaar_workok
15:24.40mitch0also, it doesn't move _other_ minimaps
15:24.44mitch0like minimapster
15:24.50sylvanaar_worknah i have default minimap
15:24.52mitch0only the default blizz stuff
15:25.08sylvanaar_workok, i'll make sure jostle is installed
15:25.11mitch0_and_ the bar has to be top attached as opposed to free and just placed at the top
15:25.27sylvanaar_workis is like that by default
15:25.34mitch0it's the default, yes
15:25.36sylvanaar_workbecause i really didnt change any settings
15:25.38sylvanaar_workhrm
15:25.48mitch0you might have accidently alt-dragged the bar
15:25.48sylvanaar_workwill it error if it cant find lib jostle?
15:25.52mitch0no
15:25.56sylvanaar_workaha
15:25.59mitch0jostle is kinda optional
15:26.09sylvanaar_workthat must be the problem
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15:26.26mitch0maybe the checkbox should be grayed if there's no jostle
15:26.30sylvanaar_workperhaps
15:26.37mitch0I'll take a look at it
15:26.52sylvanaar_worklet me remote into my home pc and make sure i dont have jostle
15:27.44sylvanaar_workhrm, its there - wonder if it is enabled
15:27.49sylvanaar_workgrr
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15:28.58mitch0libdualspec is also optional
15:29.19mitch0and sharedmedia, too
15:30.35sylvanaar_workit was diabled
15:30.44sylvanaar_works/di/dis/
15:31.32sylvanaar_workyou should grey it out, and add to the tooltip "(requires LibJostle)"
15:31.59sylvanaar_works/and/and\/or/
15:32.09sylvanaar_workhow do you do .
15:32.16sylvanaar_workslash
15:33.30Repo10bazooka: 03mitch0 * r204 Bazooka_Options/Options.lua:
15:33.31Repodisable the 'Adjust Frames' option if LibJostle is not loaded
15:34.47mitch0I hate adding stuff to tooltips. have to fight with the localization then ;)
15:35.01mitch0I'll just add the not to the addon pages
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15:38.51sylvanaar_workcool
15:39.14mitch0done
15:39.17sylvanaar_workwhy not just include it? just wondering
15:39.27mitch0hm?
15:39.40mitch0include it where?
15:39.44sylvanaar_workwondering why you didnt include it with your addon
15:39.53mitch0it is included
15:39.59sylvanaar_workoh really
15:40.07mitch0so if you're not running disembedded, then you should have it
15:40.13kadrahildisembodied
15:40.15sylvanaar_worki dont use embedded, yeah, shame on me
15:41.37sylvanaar_worki need to change acp to not disable lod libraries or something
15:44.36mitch0yeah, why does it do that at all?
15:44.56sylvanaar_workwell, because it says "disable all"
15:45.11sylvanaar_workbut, i should make it smarter
15:45.36mitch0ah, you disabled all addons at one point?
15:45.41sylvanaar_workyeah
15:45.45sylvanaar_workstill do
15:45.46mitch0oh well, no wonder then ;)
15:45.52mitch0erm.
15:45.56mitch0I don't get it.
15:46.26sylvanaar_workwhen you click the "disable all" button, it disabled them all. Then you can enable the ones you want...
15:47.03sylvanaar_workyou'd have to try it i gues
15:47.04mitch0uhum. well click on LibJostle then
15:47.07sylvanaar_workyeah
15:47.09mitch0;)
15:47.11sylvanaar_worki know
15:47.35mitch0or it should ask for OptDeps when you enable some addon
15:47.39mitch0or w/e
15:47.49mitch0I lost interest
15:47.53sylvanaar_workit used to auto enable libraries, but you need an X-Embeds tag in your toc, and ahem someone deleted all the x-embed tags in the repository
15:48.08sylvanaar_workyou cant access OptDeps
15:48.16mitch0ah
15:48.30sylvanaar_workthats why X-Embeds was used at one time
15:48.33mitch0well, most libs start with "Lib" :)
15:48.37sylvanaar_workyeah
15:48.49mitch0apart from some renegades like Astrolabe
15:48.51harlgrr. whatever has changed with my addons lately, it's re-added the same crap behaviour i experienced right after the cata release already. -.-
15:48.58nevcairielwasnt X-Embeds mostly used by WAU
15:49.17sylvanaar_workWAU never used it
15:49.24sylvanaar_workit never read the tocs
15:49.45sylvanaar_workACP used them though
15:49.59nevcairielthere must've been some more useful reason
15:50.10sylvanaar_workdunno
15:50.45nevcairielI thought WAU used it to figure out which libs to download in disembed
15:50.53nevcairielI mean, how else would it know that
15:51.12nevcairielIt had to read the toc
15:51.19sylvanaar_workit didnt though
15:51.22sylvanaar_worki know
15:51.24mitch0nev: just seen the anyup/anydown toggle in bt4 (code). cheers for it :) could you make the LDB icon toggle it for alt-click or somesuch :)
15:51.51nevcairielhow did it figure out the libs then ? :P
15:51.58sylvanaar_workyou know there was another file originally that it used
15:52.15sylvanaar_workbefore the xml feed
15:52.48sylvanaar_workhrm
15:53.08sylvanaar_worki think that before the xml feed it really couldnt do disembed that well
15:53.26sylvanaar_workonce the xml feed was out, the dependancies were in there
15:54.34nevcairielthen the xml feed read it to generate that list
15:54.40sylvanaar_workprobably
15:54.47nevcairielat least X-Embeds was useful for something more then feeding ACP
15:54.51nevcairielor i would never have set it :P
15:55.05sylvanaar_worklol, yeah - i know that
15:55.14sylvanaar_workACP used it because it was there
15:55.25sylvanaar_worknot the other way around
15:57.17sylvanaar_worki think the packager read the optdeps though
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15:57.41sylvanaar_workidk, 2006-7 is kinda foggy now
15:57.52mitch0nev: does SUF have arena frames?
15:58.04mitch0or what arena frames do pvpers use nowadays?
15:58.21sylvanaar_workhttp://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003ZSJ212 ^.^
16:00.13sylvanaar_workwhy is firefly still so popular
16:00.55Fiskernevcairiel
16:00.58Fiskeri hate you nevcairiel
16:01.38sylvanaar_workdoes anyone like the new Dr. Who?
16:02.13sylvanaar_workI liked david tennant
16:02.23sylvanaar_workthe new guy is a dweeb
16:04.28Repo10ouf_adirelle: 03Adirelle 07master * 1.6-beta-3-8-gbcaeeaa / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
16:04.30Repobcaeeaa: Raid units: display the Lightwell effect in bottom left corner.
16:04.31Repo1e720d8: Border: listen to UNIT_POWER instead UNIT_MAXPOWER.
16:04.36Fiskeri liked your mom sylvanaar
16:04.51sylvanaar_workthat explains a lot Fisker
16:04.53Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r3196 / (8 files in 7 directories): Enchanting update
16:07.27Torhal@project atlasloot-enchanted
16:07.29sylvanaar_workyou know nev, now i want to know how WAU used to handle dependancies. OH WAIT
16:07.32RepoTorhal: No project found that matches 'atlasloot-enchanted'
16:07.33sylvanaar_workI remember now
16:07.38sylvanaar_workyou included empty folders
16:07.44Torhal@project atlasloot-enhanced
16:07.45RepoTorhal: http://www.wowace.com/addons/atlasloot-enhanced/. Atlasloot Enhanced. Game: WoW. Hegarol (Manager/Author), Celellach (Author), Daviesh (Author), Lag123 (Author), arith (Contributor), Kurax (Contributor). Updated: 19 days ago. Tickets: 25/434
16:10.33nevcairielsylvanaar_work: but svn doesnt track empty folders
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16:10.41nevcairielnot well anyway
16:10.48nevcairielmust've been somethinge lse
16:10.52sylvanaar_workhrm
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16:11.54sylvanaar_workthere was another zip
16:12.08sylvanaar_workthat had all the libraries as empty folders
16:12.22sylvanaar_workthat sounds familiar
16:12.48sylvanaar_workthe name is coming
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16:13.19sylvanaar_workand, you had to put a blank file in each directory, yes...that sounds familiar too
16:13.49mitch0svn shouldn't have problems with empty dirs. that was csv
16:14.00sylvanaar_worki think it was zip that had the problem
16:14.22sylvanaar_workit was ______Libraries
16:14.32sylvanaar_workStandaloneLibraries
16:14.34sylvanaar_workthat was it
16:14.47sylvanaar_workit was its own project
16:14.52nevcairielthat was just for silly people that didnt like 20 folders in their dir
16:15.06sylvanaar_workthat was !!!Libs
16:15.44nevcairiellibraries jsut had their own addon foders like everything else
16:15.58sylvanaar_workyeah
16:16.11sylvanaar_workStandaloneLibraries was a project with empty folders
16:16.34sylvanaar_workthe sole purpose of which was to make WAU install those libraries
16:16.54sylvanaar_workis the old ace svn still around?
16:17.17sylvanaar_works/ace/wowace/
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16:19.47sylvanaar_workits gone
16:19.49sylvanaar_workhttp://oldsvn.wowace.com/wowace
16:20.11sylvanaar_workKaelten: is the old repo gone? http://oldsvn.wowace.com/wowace
16:20.41nevcairielits still around somewhere, probably just not running anymore
16:21.56sylvanaar_workyeah
16:22.21sylvanaar_worklets see if it is in the old wau source
16:26.06Fiskernevcairiel
16:26.10Fiskerdid i mention that i hate you?
16:26.18nevcairielmany times
16:26.37nevcairielbut why?
16:26.40Fiskerthey don't expect my motherboard until february :<
16:26.49nevcairielhah
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16:31.29sylvanaar_workhttp://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9017
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16:32.35sylvanaar_work!!!StandaloneLibraries
16:33.11nevcairielwasnt that just so you could copy the dirs out there, so the WAU would pick them up and download them
16:33.39sylvanaar_workyes
16:33.48sylvanaar_workthere was a file in there called filelist.wau
16:34.05sylvanaar_workthats how we all used to use standalones back then
16:34.11sylvanaar_workseems kinda crude eh?
16:35.16selckinsimplicity++
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16:35.40sylvanaar_workyeah, it was simple
16:36.39sylvanaar_worklook at the date 3-31-2007, that was so long ago
16:39.49sylvanaar_workhttp://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7360&highlight=standalonelibraries 2006 lol
16:40.03sylvanaar_workmemory lane
16:40.09Fiskernevcairiel
16:40.32Fiskerdo you know if there's somewhere you can see the aproximate power usage from a motherboard?
16:42.40nevcairieltomshardware just reviewed P67 boards and compared power usage, but it doesnt really show how much the board itself uses
16:42.54Cryectin general its kinda dwarfed by the CPU and video card
16:44.11Fiskeri didn't know, i thought it was always the motherboard that drawed all that power
16:44.46Fiskerthat's why i started exclusively getting mini-itx boards because since they're smaller they must be using less power proportional to the decrease in size
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16:47.17nevcairielwell of course they use less power :p
16:47.25nevcairielbut they also have way less features!
16:47.35GagorianWell, basically you're able to calculate it roughtly by measuring how much your computer draws from the socket, then multiplying by PSU efficiency and removing HDD, CPU and GPU consumption
16:48.12nevcairielin complete idle mode, you can basically assume thats the motherboards usage, minus a handful of watts possibly
16:48.37GagorianWell, GPUs are about ~15W idle
16:48.48GagorianSSD is 1-2W
16:48.53GagorianNormal HDD is around 5W
16:49.20GagorianCase Fan around 1W
16:49.49GagorianCPU depends a lot on the model, how much volts you feed and if you use the auto underclock features
16:50.08Fiskernevcairiel i'm trolling people coming up with completely obvious and basic stuff
16:50.11GagorianBut around 15W probably
16:51.10Fiskerwtf nevcairiel
16:51.14Fiskeris passende a word in german?
16:51.30GagorianObviously Fisker is trolling, but still there's your answer
16:51.33GagorianCalculate it yourself
16:51.44Fiskeryeah Gagorian
16:51.57Fiskeri'll go get on calculating stuff that require the physical parts before i get the physical parts
16:52.00nevcairielFisker: depending on context, but it is a word
16:52.00Fiskerhurrdurr
16:52.04Fisker:o nevcairiel
16:52.14Fiskeri'm shocked
16:52.46Fiskergive us back our words
16:52.54Fiskerif passende = matching then i'll k
16:52.56Fiskerill
16:52.57Fiskeryou
16:53.09GagorianFisker: Well you can easily estimate it from the reviews available, but if you need exact values then you indeed need the parts
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16:53.55GagorianFor example, ATI has an annoying 'feature' that if you use a multi-monitor, the GPU memory clock isn't underclocked in idle
16:54.00sbumeh, sandy tomorrow :(
16:54.13GagorianAnd consumption is around 25W watts higher than in single-display idle
16:54.54GagorianDon't know if NVIDIA cards behave the same, but apparently according to ATI the increased memory performance is needed for multi-monitor setups
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16:57.21nevcairielthere was a bug in nvidia drivers that caused that at some point
16:57.27nevcairielbut my card clocks down when idle
16:57.54nevcairielit also happens on some other circumstance, i forgot what
16:59.41sbunevcairiel: CPU tomorrow :|
16:59.58sbu"Die Sendung wurde im Start-Paketzentrum bearbeitet." 15:39 today
17:00.16nevcairielsame for me
17:00.22nevcairielthat could be close for tomorrow
17:00.25nevcairielhope it makes it in time
17:00.27sbunah, thats fine
17:00.44sbuamazon delivery is next day when DHL picks up at 18 uhr
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17:04.13Fiskeri'm getting so many sandy bridges tomorrow
17:04.14Fiskerit's insane
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17:05.32Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03arith * r3197 Locales/constants.tw.lua: zhTW update
17:08.57Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1585 DrDamage.lua:
17:08.58Repo- Make sure cast sequence macro timer doesn't cancel an expired and recycled handle of any other timer
17:08.59Repo- Remove all silent AceTimer-3.0 CancelTimer switches as they aren't needed
17:11.32pompyhttp://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/149848/this-community-is-horrible damn lots of blue text!
17:13.28Fiskeromg nevcairiel
17:14.08nevcairielwhat now
17:14.20Fiskeri wanted to check something
17:14.23Fiskerbut i forgot :(
17:14.31Fiskerstop keeping my memory hostage
17:14.51nevcairielbut its my memory
17:18.13Parnicfisker how are you
17:18.36Fiskernot very well
17:18.42Fiskersomeone is holding my memory hostage
17:18.50Parnicbut isn't it almost sandy bridge day?
17:19.10FiskerIt would be if the motherboard i want would be out today
17:19.37Parnicsounds like a lot of QQ
17:20.05Fiskernevcairiel
17:20.29FiskerSomeone has decided that they want to get macs
17:20.34Fiskerjust so we can install XP on them
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17:20.51Fiskeron schools where the most common cause of technical issue is violence against hardware
17:20.53nevcairielSomeone is pretty sutpid
17:21.01Fiskerhow do i make my brain not hurt?
17:22.06nevcairielvodka
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17:32.29Fiskerhow do i open the ingame issues frame?
17:32.46Parnici think /gm works...or maybe it's /help
17:33.53nevcairieli dont think there is a slash
17:34.45Parnicthere is one. i've found it be accident before
17:34.48durcynToggleHelpFrame()
17:34.49Parnici just can't remember what it is
17:34.56Parnicbe=by*
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17:38.21Fiskeri love you durcyn
17:38.56durcyni love you too fisker
17:45.57Pneumatusis anyone else quite surprised that blizz have only sold 4.7mil copies of cata so far?
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17:49.35Pneumatusin unrelated news, tol'vir archaeology :<
17:49.38Pneumatus29 commons, 1 rare
17:52.55Fiskerso nevcairiel
17:53.12Fiskerwanna see who gets sandy bridge first tomorrow?
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18:15.08kagaro|workhey bibi you around?
18:16.19kagaro|worki need to beat you with a stick
18:16.42Fiskeri need to beat you with a stick?
18:17.16kagaro|workmmo-c posted an articale about gathermate2 and archy, and posted a SV file without instructions so people have been droppign it over the main addon and posting tickets when it doesnt work
18:17.34Fiskerbaww kagaro
18:17.52kagaro|workstupid users
18:18.27kagaro|workFisker: whisk me away
18:18.35Fiskeryour bug in kgpanels was fixed all of the sudden kagaro
18:18.36Fiskerjersk
18:19.27Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1586 Data/Paladin.lua:
18:19.28Repo- Word of Glory seems to actually have an AP coefficient (at around 19.8%) in addition to the SP coefficient. This should fix incorrect calculations.
18:19.54Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Dynaletik * r3198 Locales/constants.de.lua: - deDE update
18:20.39ParnicGagorian: how much of a pain is it to keep up with all that crap for dr damage? :P
18:21.12GagorianPain: Min |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||----| MAX
18:21.22Gagorianabout that much
18:21.22Parniclol :)
18:21.52Parnicwell props to you. i think i'd go crazy trying to keep up with it
18:22.59GagorianMost of all since I don't play the game anymore since TBC, so I just know mechanics, nothing else
18:23.21Parnicdo you have to have a char of each class at max level to figure out the numbers?
18:23.59GagorianUnfortunately not, my chars are 70 priest and 70 lock.. But I have access to a few accounts with most chars, not everything though
18:24.17Parnicwhich classes are you missing?
18:24.35GagorianPriest and mage
18:24.43GagorianI need to go now though ->
18:24.45Parnici have 82 of each
18:24.47Parnicmmk :)
18:24.57Parnican 82 of each* ha
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18:31.11kagaro|workKaelten yuo around?
18:31.26Fiskerhey Parnic
18:31.30Parnichey fisker
18:32.19Parnichi fisker
18:32.22kadrahilhey Parnic
18:32.28Parnichello
18:32.44kadrahilyou have 82 priests and mages
18:32.53Parnici know, crazy right?
18:32.56durcynthat's not very many
18:38.16Pneumatusforever alone
18:40.14Parnicreddit or /b/, Pneumatus? :)
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18:40.31Pneumatuseither/or
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18:48.42Fiskerhey Pneumatus
18:48.52PneumatusFisker :<
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18:53.33FiskerPneumatus :(
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19:02.01Repo10aloft: 03acapela 07Original * r426 : Original SVN import of Aloft, left for posterity.
19:05.02Gnarfozlol
19:05.09Gnarfozthat guy again :F
19:07.08Stanzillahey  Gnarfoz
19:08.57Gnarfozfucking Alice bastards
19:09.19GnarfozDOUBLE fucking Alice bastards
19:09.23Gnarfozhow incompetent can you be
19:09.39Gnarfozfirst off, they regard email addresses with + in them as invalid
19:10.06Gnarfozand then they send me my username & password in plain text in the 'please activate your account' email
19:10.08GnarfozMORANS
19:13.49quiescensi blame Gnarfoz
19:14.32quiescensquick, someone steal gnarfoz' email and get his passwords
19:14.54Gnarfozyou'd have to mitm Strato or get into one of their servers
19:15.11Gnarfoz(actually, too late, that account is pop3 & delete-after-retrieval)
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19:26.18Kaeltenkagaro: kinda
19:28.15Repo10atlas_arena: 03arith * r21 / (12 files in 4 directories): * 1.3 (2011/01/11)
19:28.16Repo- Map added: Amphitheater of Anguish
19:28.56PrimerGift 85 new mount , World of Warcraft players who could be our lucky stars,we will be complimentary seat to the 5,000 new players. You can log Web site application, we will be lucky players randomly. Christmas is about the new mount will be distributed to lucky players.Look for our registration site:
19:29.05Primerthat's the best one so far
19:29.35Repo10atlas_arena: 03arith 041.3 * r22 : Tagging as 1.3
19:29.36Repo* 1.3 (2011/01/11)
19:29.38Repo- Map added: Amphitheater of Anguish
19:30.26PrimerNice to see that I have to delete my cookies yet AGAIN to login to curse.com
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19:35.23quiescensgrats
19:36.07Repo10big-wigs: 03Maat * r7818 Throne/Conclave.lua: normal has berserk too
19:36.52mitchnullkagaro: SetBackdrop(nil) is not Blizz compatible (it should remove the backdrop)
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19:40.43kagaromitch0:  ill get change it
19:40.58kagaroKaelten:  curse client ont he mac keeps asking for password btw to install updates
19:41.17Kaeltenmeans it's running into permission errors it can't figure it
19:41.19Kaeltenout
19:42.05kagarogotcha was just letting you know
19:44.35quiescensKaelten broked it
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19:50.47Repo10libbackdrop-1-0: 03kagaro 07master * 1.0.9-1-g7f75879 LibBackdrop-1.0.lua: [+1 commit] calling SetBackdrop(nil) will now properly nill out the backdrop
19:51.34NeoTronIt's nice to see that Bigwigs is up to speed in terms of support but I'm very much missing the customizability of DXE, like ability to configure sounds for all events
19:51.47NeoTronbigwigs definitely has a severe lack of audible event warnings
19:52.11Funkeh`NeoTron, use super emphasize?
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19:53.21NeoTronit's entirely unclear what that does, plus it's not customizable
19:53.35NeoTronhaving one sound doesn't help if the fight has 5 mechanics :)
19:54.14NeoTronI know this has been mentioned before with DBM vs BigWigs long ago, probably even in BC but I never missed it until I used DXE and then went back to bigwigs
19:54.35NeoTronI do use Power Auras for this now if it's a (de)buff
19:55.15Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r3199 LootTableModules/Cataclysm/cataclysm.lua: removed heroic boe drops
19:57.01kagarohahah i beat the snowstorm home by 15 mins
19:57.27harlsomething has changed from yesterday for me. there is no /rl anymore and the interface options frame isn't resizable anymore.
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19:58.23harlis anyone able to tell me what could have caused these to disappear. i didn't disable any add-ons, knowingly, afaik.
19:58.58harl(there's a question in there somewhere)
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20:08.36harlok, doing a local search for '/rl' throughout my addons directory, reveals that the /rl slash command was included with AceConsole(-2.0) and since i wasn't loading Baggins anymore, of course that library wasn't loaded either. so much for that one.
20:12.27Repo10autoequipquestitem: 03yssaril 07master * v1.0.0-1-g6ce5c46 AutoEquipQuestItem.toc: [+1 commit] update toc
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20:19.05durcynthere's a builtin /reloadui, the options frame is due to you disabling something that was embedding betterblizoptions
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20:23.38harli'm unable to find anything containing *betterbliz* in my addons dir though
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20:24.28durcynantiarc embeds it in Chatter, not sure about anything else
20:25.26Stanzillawhy does he even do that :(
20:30.41Fiskershall we play a game Stanzilla ?
20:31.25StanzillaFisker: yes pelase
20:31.41Fiskermmm
20:32.14kadrahilwtb snowstorm
20:32.17kadrahilwe didn't get enough
20:32.34kagaroits coming down here
20:33.04kadrahilwhere's here
20:34.15kadrahilthat system moving east right now needs to dip further south
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21:03.09Repo10atramedes: 03Maat 041.5 * r29 : Tagging as 1.5
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21:18.03TorhalStanzilla: I don't know why he does it, but it's annoying. Plus, it shouldn't even _be_ a lib.
21:18.25TorhalLibImposePreferences-1.0 FTW
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21:20.52StanzillaTorhal: I dont even know if it is intented or not, I just fixed the embeds for it last year or so
21:21.00Stanzillamaybe it was not even supposed to be there :p
21:21.11Stanzilla./votekick !
21:21.46TorhalWell, a ChatFrame AddOn shouldn't be fucking with the Blizzard Interface Options frame, or anything ELSE but a ChatFrame.
21:22.13TorhalHey, I installed a TradeSkill AddOn and suddenly I see ponies on the screen!
21:22.16TorhalSeriously.
21:22.22Stanzilla:)
21:22.27Stanzillakagaro should take it out :p
21:22.47kagarowhat stan
21:22.52TorhalBetterBlizzardOptions _is_ a standalone AddOn, after all.
21:23.13Stanzillakagaro: betterblizzoptions from the chatter embeds
21:23.22kadrahilstanzillone
21:23.36Stanzilla:p
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21:29.54kagaroi dont think i added that embed
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21:50.25jnwhitehkagaro: have a moment by any chance?
21:50.34kagaroyes sup
21:51.06jnwhitehso I have a function called GetVector()
21:51.12jnwhitehsince I always need distance and direction
21:52.05jnwhitehpretty simple, just checks the maps to see if they're the same.. calls Distance() or DistanceWithinContinent() accordingly
21:52.14jnwhitehit seems the distance returned is correct
21:52.30jnwhitehbut when one of the waypoints is on the continent map (Kalimdor)
21:52.38jnwhitehmy getDirection() function fails with the xd, yd input
21:52.44Repo10professionsvault: 03oscarucb 044.0 * r189 :  (Message trimmed by 2 lines)
21:52.45RepoTagging as 4.0
21:52.46RepoAdd support for Skillet and GnomeWorks Tradeskill frames
21:52.47RepoAdd "/pv save" command that works the same as the save button
21:52.48RepoBUG FIX: PV was breaking coloring of non-recipes at merchant and AH
21:52.52kagaroso just on kalimdor?
21:53.03jnwhitehkagaro: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/318569/
21:53.07jnwhitehI suspect it might be on other continents as well
21:53.09jnwhitehthat's getDirection
21:53.13jnwhitehwhich as I understand, should work properly
21:53.56jnwhitehso if both coordinates passed to DistanceWithinContinent are on the continent map, it works
21:54.02jnwhitehwhen both are non-continent, it works
21:54.13jnwhitehwhen its one and one, it seems to give me odd data for xd yd
21:54.29kagaroand thats to be expected since the x,y are in different scales
21:54.44Stanzillakagaro: you didnt but you can remove it :P
21:54.57jnwhitehkagaro: but I'm supplying the map
21:55.00jnwhitehin both cases
21:55.09jnwhitehLibMapData should be able to convert them, no?
21:55.19kagaroDistance function assume same map
21:55.28kagaroDistanceWithinContinetn does recalcs
21:55.51jnwhitehi'm calling DWC
21:55.55jnwhitehthat's the point =)
21:56.04kagaroahh ok i mis understood
21:56.30jnwhitehCurrent location is on map 42. Waypoint is on map 13: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/7d482b2ae671eb61e5bb3fc51b920f87.png
21:57.05jnwhitehI change the map zoom to kalimdor, which is the players current continent, so its 13/13: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/555092b06a5ce089670e691971290fa0.png
21:57.14jnwhitehthe top is TomTom, so its correct, the bottom is what I'm getting from TTL
21:57.21jnwhitehi'll get some slash commands to check the data
21:57.52Repo10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r439 / (2 files in 1 directory): RaidBuffStatus:
21:57.53Repo- Added some support for Cauldrons but it is not enabled yet.
21:58.12kagarook so the calulated distance is correct, but the angle calc gets whacked
21:58.31jnwhitehcorrect, so dx dy is whats off
21:58.32jnwhitehit seems
21:58.35jnwhitehi'll see by what in a second
21:59.39jnwhitehusing 13:13 I get 2197, 830, -2034 (rounded)
22:00.23jnwhitehwhen I use 13:42 I get 2197, 830, -2034
22:00.24jnwhitehso.
22:00.25jnwhitehhrm.
22:00.55jnwhitehblarg.
22:01.54jnwhitehDistance seems to be returning the right answer, DWC is not.. but I have to track down why
22:03.18kagaroi think i may know why
22:03.23kagaromaybe
22:07.07kagaroadd a line i think should fix it jnwhiteh
22:07.35kagarothe delta is in the wrong scale value
22:07.59kagarogimme some inut i can test and what it should give as a value
22:08.21jnwhitehack.. okay
22:09.36Torhalkagaro: Any particular reason LibMapData only has four continents?
22:09.53kagarocause there are only 4
22:10.17TorhalThe Maelstrom is counted as one in the Blizzard API.
22:10.32kagarokalimdor, EK, outlands and maelstrom
22:10.39TorhalNorthrend
22:10.53TorhalThat makes 5
22:10.54kagaroahh yeah forgot about that one
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22:11.59jnwhitehkagaro: I think its the signs
22:12.05jnwhitehbut I'm trying to sort it out.
22:12.14kagarook
22:12.17TorhalIf you're directly mapping to Blizzard's values, 4 should be Northrend and 5 would be The Maelstrom (which, interestingly enough, has a Zone named The Maelstrom)
22:12.22jnwhitehkagaro: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/318585/
22:12.44jnwhitehgah
22:12.46kagarodo they return the same answer?
22:12.47jnwhitehthose value may not be correct
22:12.50jnwhitehno
22:13.06jnwhitehthe dy is - in astrolabe and + in lmd
22:14.06kagaroya i see it lemme see whats going on
22:14.13jnwhitehyes, the sign is flipped
22:14.18jnwhitehthat seems to be the root of this particular issue
22:14.40jnwhitehhttp://paste.pocoo.org/show/318587/ is the actual code I'm using
22:14.46jnwhitehand that reflects the actual arrows/situation
22:17.25jnwhitehappreciate all the help
22:17.42jnwhitehjust got an archaeology waypoint source written for TTL
22:18.52kagarocan you check EK as well to see that its a sign flip?
22:20.00jnwhitehyes, i'll work on that
22:20.05jnwhitehi can probably check outland if necessary
22:20.10jnwhitehif my hearth cooperates
22:21.00kagaroim trying to trace through why its flipping
22:22.27jnwhitehyes, same with ekingdoms
22:22.38jnwhitehcode: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/318593/
22:24.28jnwhitehat a glance ,outland appears to be correct
22:26.27jnwhitehhrm, just died off HFP.. not sure how.
22:26.30jnwhitehvery expensive
22:28.43jnwhitehI take that back, outlands may be borked as well
22:30.58KaeltenDoes anyone know of a list of all the login servers
22:31.23JerubKaelten: there's one on wowpedia.org
22:31.29JerubKaelten: ip addresses of all known servers
22:32.03jnwhitehkagaro: hard to tell with outland, having difficulty causing a problem
22:32.07mckenziemcthats' the realm servers, not the login though
22:32.09mckenziemcafaik
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22:33.48Kaeltenwhat I'm looking for is to actually determine the region of the server you're logging into
22:34.18Kaeltenthere's the values returned by GetCVar("realmList")
22:34.39jnwhitehkagaro: confirmed, its flipped for Outlands as well
22:35.19kagaroill check to see whats going on then its gotta be a flipped sign somewhere
22:36.10sbunevcairiel: meh, i'm already thinking about another RAM package, 80 eur is pretty cheap for 8gb :p
22:37.37jnwhitehmmm ram prices
22:37.39jnwhitehdelicious
22:38.06sbuyes :p
22:38.14sbubut 16gb is so.... i dont know :p
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22:42.57jnwhitehkagaro: I'll patch my code for now, and see if this fixes it.
22:43.50Funkeh`jnwhiteh, wtb updated xmlbrowser :p
22:44.24jnwhitehFunkeh`: ah, hrm.
22:44.30jnwhitehI can do that, hold please
22:46.01jnwhitehFunkeh`: what vs what?
22:46.33Funkeh`.3 vs 3.3.5 would probably be most useful
22:46.41jnwhitehO.o
22:47.14Funkeh`1. vs .3 doesn't really seem useful
22:49.29jnwhitehhrm
22:49.34jnwhitehshould probably remove the .git listings :P
22:49.35jnwhitehlol
22:53.53jnwhitehFunkeh`: better? http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser
22:53.55Repo10libmapdata-1-0: 03kagaro * r80 library.lua: Fixed a sign bit getting flipped
22:54.21Funkeh`jnwhiteh, oh right, totally forgot about .6 ...
22:54.26Funkeh`>.<
22:55.00Funkeh`jnwhiteh, but yeah, thanks :)
22:58.44jnwhitehit uses tekkub's github now
22:58.55jnwhitehso it has patch notes
22:58.55jnwhitehand has a 'powered by wow-ui-source on github' at the bottom :p
22:59.17kagarojnwhiteh:  i commited a fix should correct your issue
22:59.23jnwhitehsaw that, it does
22:59.26jnwhitehthank you, and sorry
22:59.57kagarohehe what sorry you found a bug
23:00.15Funkeh`jnwhiteh, http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser/mindiff/FrameXML/WorldStateFrame.lua Is it just me or are all the passed variables after opening a bracket blank?
23:00.18jnwhitehyes
23:00.32jnwhitehFunkeh`: no, seems fine to me
23:00.48jnwhitehhttp://images.gammatester.com/pics/8725275a0dc97377f64a58e5b609adc4.png
23:00.49jnwhiteh?
23:01.13Funkeh`jnwhiteh, just opened it in chrome also, same issue
23:01.20jnwhitehsshot?
23:01.31jnwhitehdisable javascript?
23:01.33jnwhitehview source?
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23:01.52sbu<pre>@@ -503,7 +503,6 @@ function WorldStateScoreFrame_Update( WorldStateScoreFrameTeam:Hide()
23:02.10Funkeh`jnwhiteh, yeah, it's lacking in the source too
23:02.32jnwhitehumm
23:02.34jnwhitehyou're reading the diff
23:02.36jnwhitehthat's not code mate
23:02.39jnwhitehthat's diff -p
23:02.44jnwhitehtelling you what function contains the change you're reading
23:03.29Funkeh`eh?
23:03.35Funkeh`"for i=1, numScores d
23:03.35Funkeh`"
23:03.44Funkeh`there's an o at the end of that d missing
23:04.01jnwhitehhrm
23:04.02jnwhitehlet me look
23:04.48jnwhitehhrm
23:04.53jnwhitehmay be because of windows newlines
23:06.43jnwhitehFunkeh`: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser/mindiff/FrameXML/WorldStateFrame.lua seems to be better now, sorry
23:07.55Funkeh`woop, thanks
23:08.35jnwhitehi keep killing my goblin
23:09.05mckenziemco.o
23:10.57Wobinjnwhiteh: take your foot off the top of its head
23:11.30jnwhitehcorpse and archaeology arrows working for TomTomLite
23:12.04Stanzillayay
23:17.39kagaroill tag a release of LMD jnwhiteh
23:18.06Repo10libmapdata-1-0: 03kagaro 040.14-release * r81 : Tagging as 0.14-release
23:19.32Repo10big-wigs: 03nebula169 * r7819 Blackwing/Nefarian.lua:
23:19.33RepoBlackwing/Nefarian: Electrocute warning and fix phase messages
23:23.05ArcharodimIs there an add-on to protect Crowd-Controlled units like Sheppard used to do?
23:24.59Repo10rdkp (experimental): 03ArdbegRapture 07master * 0.10.0-3-gbc0e71f / (17 files in 4 directories): [+3 commits]
23:25.00Repobc0e71f: Fully rewritten.
23:25.01Repo97a77be: Cleanup, remove LibBossID and LibTourist
23:25.02Repo0ce0ca6: fix libLogger external
23:30.05jnwhitehTomTomLite updated on WoWI and Curse adding support for corpse location and archaeology dig sites!
23:31.09Stanzilla<3
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