| 00:00.01 | groktar | vomits |
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| 00:11.30 | Repo | 10badboy_guilded: 03funkydude * r21 BadBoy_Guilded.lua: another trigger |
| 00:12.05 | Dotted | ping stolenlegacy__ |
| 00:12.14 | stolenlegacy__ | pong Dotted |
| 00:12.23 | Dotted | on wow at the moment? |
| 00:12.28 | stolenlegacy | login servers busy |
| 00:12.32 | Dotted | i see |
| 00:12.36 | stolenlegacy | why |
| 00:13.09 | stolenlegacy | groktar: why not simply if($_POST["submit"]){ |
| 00:13.13 | Dotted | same problem here, was in HC with cyren just wanted him to know i couldnt log back in after DC, but if you arent on that isnt gonna work ;) |
| 00:13.49 | stolenlegacy | err..do i know you ingame? :P |
| 00:14.10 | Dotted | arent you twincept or am i completely mistaken :|? |
| 00:14.13 | stolenlegacy | you are |
| 00:14.18 | Dotted | -.- |
| 00:14.26 | stolenlegacy | :P |
| 00:15.56 | stolenlegacy | am i the only one that finds it funny that when you click the link in the "login server is busy" page, you get "article not found"? |
| 00:16.27 | Dotted | heh |
| 00:19.20 | Repo | 10extractor: 03Zhinjio * r45 / (4 files in 1 directory): Extractor : |
| 00:19.22 | Repo | - getting closer to ready |
| 00:19.23 | Repo | - pick up more localizations |
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| 00:36.18 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r706 / (2 files in 1 directory): remove optional debug print, improve logger function call |
| 00:38.55 | Zhinjio1 | so apparently I did a booboo when I hijacked the itemtoolip |
| 00:39.39 | Zhinjio1 | guess I'll check out some addon that does it right and compare |
| 00:40.02 | Repo | 10badboy_ccleaner: 03funkydude * r41 BadBoy_CCleaner.lua: improve logger call |
| 00:40.08 | Repo | 10badboy_guilded: 03funkydude * r22 BadBoy_Guilded.lua: improve logger call |
| 00:40.56 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/bigwigs_chogall_worship_marker/. BigWigs_Cho'gall_Worship_Marker. Maat (Manager/Author). Approved by funkydude. |
| 00:41.01 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/badboy_history/. BadBoy_History. funkydude (Manager/Author). Approved by funkydude. |
| 00:41.07 | Repo | 10sexymap: 03Antiarc 07master * v1.2.4-4-ge1a8dd2 SexyMap.lua: [+1 commit] Remove the /map slash command, as it hides a new Blizzard slash command |
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| 00:54.32 | Repo | 10badboy_history: 03funkydude * r2 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 00:54.33 | Repo | import basic version that prints to chat, will be removed later |
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| 00:56.31 | Repo | 10badboy_guilded: 03funkydude 04v1.20 * r23 : Tagging as v1.20 |
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| 01:27.33 | Dingo- | Yo! Anyone here willing to help me out with iceHUD? |
| 01:32.24 | Dingo- | I just want target health to be shown like [15.4k/18.6k] instead of [15412321/18612312] |
| 01:34.16 | Zhinjio1 | what is the ilvl requirement for raid dungeons in cata? |
| 01:38.25 | Zyn- | there's none |
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| 01:44.24 | Repo | 10ldb-lagtolerance: 03DerSchreiner * r10 LDB-LagTolerance.lua: Added option to adjust to exact ping |
| 01:44.25 | Repo | Open options on right click |
| 01:44.26 | Repo | Regrouped options |
| 01:44.30 | crazedfred | About AceComms: when I try to call RegisterComm immediately it fails, but putting it in a slash command works. Do I need to use the AceAddon functions to run after loading? |
| 01:44.44 | pompy | Zhinjio1: its 329 for heroic |
| 01:45.09 | pompy | oh |
| 01:45.11 | pompy | raid lol |
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| 01:45.57 | Zhinjio | yaeh |
| 01:46.01 | Zhinjio | I know the heroic one |
| 01:52.28 | Groktar | http://www.wowprogress.com/guild/us/daggerspine/Impulse/rating.tier11_25 |
| 01:52.29 | Groktar | roar! |
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| 02:58.41 | crazedfred | A potentially dumb question. I don't know quite how SavedVariables work, but I do know how to get various Ace addons working. If I won't have configuration options for the end-user, should I just grab AceDB and let it handle everything? Or use manual SavedVariables. |
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| 03:07.46 | p3lim | Is it possible to change the 4th attribute of CreateFrame after its been run? |
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| 03:54.39 | SinusPi | crazedfred: you do need SavedVariables set up for AceDB to work. |
| 03:55.09 | crazedfred | SinusPi: right, but there's a tutorial :P |
| 03:55.27 | crazedfred | I guess I was wondering more if there was a point to using AceDB in htis situation |
| 03:55.30 | crazedfred | *this |
| 03:55.39 | SinusPi | Depends on how much data you're saving. |
| 03:55.47 | SinusPi | In most cases, a single saved table is enough. |
| 03:57.19 | SinusPi | p3lim: no, it would change all the frame's composition. All you can do is scratch that old frame and make a new one. |
| 04:05.21 | quiescens | moo? |
| 04:06.55 | arkanes | crazedfred: there's really no reason to not have profile support unless you're just a meanie |
| 04:07.07 | quiescens | meanie |
| 04:07.28 | crazedfred | arkanes: I'm writing a library, so my question was more 'is all AceDB good for profiles' |
| 04:07.36 | crazedfred | Sorry I should have been clearer :) |
| 04:07.57 | arkanes | well profiles is a lot |
| 04:08.10 | Arrowmaster | libraries shouldnt depend on other libraries |
| 04:08.16 | arkanes | that and defaults/default handling is all it adds over just saving one |
| 04:08.24 | arkanes | arguable libraries shouldn't have any saved vars |
| 04:08.26 | Arrowmaster | libraries also can not have saved variables |
| 04:08.33 | arkanes | embedded ones can't, yeah |
| 04:08.52 | arkanes | expose your settings as a table and have the host store that however they want |
| 04:09.09 | Arrowmaster | that causes trouble and shouldnt be done |
| 04:12.19 | p3lim | So, I have 9 buttons that I want to use for Possess |
| 04:12.35 | p3lim | how do I make them securely show and hide based on the state? |
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| 04:30.44 | crazedfred | AceSerializer appears to inflate a string that is already sendable by about 20% -.- |
| 04:43.11 | Arrowmaster | its not designed for compression |
| 04:43.32 | Arrowmaster | or high throughput usage |
| 04:50.47 | crazedfred | hmm, maybe I'll use LibCompress's encoding then |
| 04:51.18 | Primer | hehe someone's been using my svnweb on a consistent basis |
| 04:51.34 | Primer | I just happened to look at the web server's logs for something unrelated |
| 04:52.57 | quiescens | serialization that doesn't go out of its way to compress the results would usually tend to increase the space taken wouldn't it o.o |
| 04:54.25 | KriLL3 | is there a way to make the objectives grow upwards or do I need an addon for that? if so anyone got any recommendations for a simple one that looks similar to the stock one? |
| 04:56.19 | crazedfred | quiescens: sure, was just surprised it inflated a string that needed no serialization (or rather, that it inflated so much - it appears to manually escape space characters for some reason) |
| 04:57.16 | KriLL3 | talking about the minimap attached objectives tracker btw |
| 04:58.10 | p3lim | Is there a way to get the hotkey for an actionbutton? |
| 04:58.19 | p3lim | Can't find any specific API |
| 04:59.20 | quiescens | maybe it uses spaces itself as some sort of seperator |
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| 05:02.54 | crazedfred | quiescens: aha, the LibCompress encoding is MAS BUENO ;) |
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| 05:07.34 | crazedfred | quiescens: it appears with proper encoding the result is around 70% size instead of about 84%, because encoding has to escape far fewer characters |
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| 05:28.35 | KriLL3 | no one knows a replacement quest tracker with the option of making it grow upwards? |
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| 05:33.24 | crazedfred | KriLL3: I used to use MonkeyQuest which was pretty cool |
| 05:33.49 | crazedfred | Has a ridiculous number of features so I bet grow upwards is among them :) |
| 05:34.28 | KriLL3 | alright |
| 05:34.44 | crazedfred | disclaimer: don't use it ATM so YMMV |
| 05:36.01 | KriLL3 | ATM, YMMV? |
| 05:36.25 | Repo | 10gathermate_sharing: 03zhTW * r85 / (3 files in 2 directories): GatherMate_Sharing: zhTW & zhCN update |
| 05:36.45 | crazedfred | Sorry; ATM = At The Moment, YMMV = Your Mileage May Vary = Unsure if you'll be as happy with it as I was |
| 05:37.02 | crazedfred | KriLL3: I am in a very "internet" mindset right now, sorry >< |
| 05:37.12 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 05:38.17 | Jerub | anyone know a good addon to show me quest hubs i've missed? |
| 05:38.23 | Jerub | i'm 30 quests short in 3 cata zones now |
| 05:38.27 | Jerub | and i can't find the quests |
| 05:39.14 | KriLL3 | everyquest? |
| 05:39.37 | Jerub | k, awesome. |
| 05:39.42 | Jerub | also, i'm after a rep tracker. |
| 05:39.58 | KriLL3 | and flying around usually gives you a ! somewhere, and yes I've missed em in one zone as well, started by some remote guy that then turned into a tree of chains |
| 05:44.07 | mckenziemc | ~wtf ymmv |
| 05:46.39 | mckenziemc | crazedfred, did you get my message earlier? |
| 05:46.51 | crazedfred | mckenziemc: I don't think so. Was it via IRC? |
| 05:46.58 | mckenziemc | yeah |
| 05:47.06 | crazedfred | mckenziemc: I actually had a hardware failure earlier today, a PSU blew :/ |
| 05:47.11 | crazedfred | mckenziemc: so it may have been lost |
| 05:47.13 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 05:47.17 | mckenziemc | give me a sec |
| 05:47.21 | crazedfred | kk |
| 05:48.07 | crazedfred | one of these days I'll do whatever it is the IRC pros do and leave a session open on my server |
| 05:50.29 | Sapu | anybody ever done a Selection List in lua before (http://www.montparnas.com/articles/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/form-select-list-boxes-right-to-left.jpg if you don't know what that is)? |
| 05:51.28 | Sapu | or know of an addon that has one |
| 05:51.35 | Torhal | crazedfred: http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/ |
| 05:52.11 | crazedfred | Torhal: I've used screen, which software do you use to relay it to another client? ( I use pidgin @ home) |
| 05:52.22 | crazedfred | or does using it on the server mean you use IRC over SSH |
| 05:54.33 | Zhinjio | Adirelle: ping |
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| 06:01.26 | Torhal | crazedfred: I use weechat for IRC, others use irssi |
| 06:01.30 | Torhal | Text-based. |
| 06:01.47 | crazedfred | Torhal: thanks, will research |
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| 06:16.49 | Repo | c72503d: add mastery rating |
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| 06:43.11 | Repo | Ok, dark intent is annoying. Only tracking it while in a party. |
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| 06:49.27 | Parnic | so, for anyone interested in my IceHUD crash, it appears that calling UnitSelectionColor() on target changed when the user has a target selected in an instance, in combat, and zones out is causing a crash |
| 06:49.38 | Parnic | if i remove the UnitSelectionColor() call, the crash goes away |
| 06:50.46 | Parnic | my next step is figuring out if i could either replace that call with something else or temporarily avoid calling it after some event fires indicating that the player has changed zones... |
| 06:51.14 | Parnic | !api UnitSelectionColor |
| 06:51.15 | lua_bot | UnitSelectionColor: Returns a color indicating hostility and related status of a unit (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitSelectionColor) |
| 07:07.05 | Adirelle | Zhinjio, pong |
| 07:12.46 | Zhinjio | Adirelle: heya. Is it a known bug that I can't "slot" a new bag in adibags? or in the bank slots? |
| 07:12.55 | Zhinjio | or should I go make a ticket? |
| 07:12.59 | Zhinjio | or am I doing something stupid |
| 07:13.14 | Adirelle | Zhinjio, "slot" ? |
| 07:13.23 | Zimbo | and you tried dragging out the old bag? :o |
| 07:13.26 | Fisker | i'm very sick Parnic |
| 07:13.36 | Zhinjio | like, replacing a 6 slot bag with a larger one, or moving it into a blank slot |
| 07:13.40 | Adirelle | there was a bug about it, which version are you using ? |
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| 07:13.57 | Zhinjio | 1.3-beta-2 |
| 07:14.06 | Parnic | i know fisker |
| 07:15.17 | Adirelle | Zhinjio, what is happening ? |
| 07:15.47 | mckenziemc | Fisker: fiskering people isn't exactly sanitary |
| 07:15.56 | Zhinjio | I open the bag frame with the little button, and try dragging a new bag to an empty or occupied slot, and it does nothing |
| 07:16.13 | Zhinjio | that happens both in the bank and with normal bag slots |
| 07:16.55 | Adirelle | no error message (assuming you enabled error display) ? |
| 07:16.58 | Zhinjio | I'm trying it with the netherweave bags, which are BoE ... I'm wondering if maybe its happening because that bag normally generates the "that item will bind to you" message. |
| 07:17.06 | Zhinjio | I do have an error display, and get no errors |
| 07:17.14 | Adirelle | ok |
| 07:17.21 | Fisker | jerk steam |
| 07:17.22 | Zhinjio | it actually still makes the "kachunk" sound as if it equipped |
| 07:17.33 | Fisker | asking me for a hardware survey just before i change to sandy bridge |
| 07:17.41 | Fisker | what cruel injustice |
| 07:17.48 | Torhal | Sounds ike a pen-fifteen situation, Fisker. |
| 07:18.07 | Adirelle | please file a ticket, so I remember to test it |
| 07:18.15 | Parnic | i'm in that club, torhal |
| 07:18.22 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 07:18.23 | Zhinjio | will do |
| 07:18.33 | Adirelle | I can't remember if I already tested this or not |
| 07:18.48 | Parnic | grr. "you have entered too many instances recently" and now i can't continue testing my crash... |
| 07:19.09 | Jerub | Zhinjio: with bag addons it's hard to tell when you're trying to replace a bag from within itself. |
| 07:19.13 | Parnic | apparently it's account-wide as opposed to character-specific |
| 07:19.20 | Jerub | Zhinjio: which wow won't let you do |
| 07:20.20 | Jerub | Parnic: yep. it's to stop people from using 10 alts to farm chests in instances. |
| 07:20.28 | Zhinjio | Adirelle: http://bit.ly/fL4lA9 |
| 07:20.31 | Jerub | so it has to be account specific. :( |
| 07:20.34 | Parnic | i know. just sucks when it bites me on something legitimate :( |
| 07:20.45 | Parnic | is the timer like 15mins or something? |
| 07:20.53 | Jerub | it bit a lot of people with the brewfest bosses |
| 07:23.25 | mckenziemc | parnic, were you resetting the instance each time, or just running out and back? |
| 07:23.44 | Parnic | just running out and back |
| 07:23.50 | Parnic | but my client was crashing, so maybe that did it |
| 07:24.12 | mckenziemc | idk why but on my mage yesterday the instance didn't reset at all so i didn't have that issue |
| 07:24.35 | mckenziemc | you might be able to make a trial acc and invite a char, idk if that would keeep it from resetting or not |
| 07:24.41 | Parnic | i narrowed it down to a single line of code in icehud, but my attempts at creating a barebones mod to duplicate the issue have been fruitless |
| 07:25.45 | mitch0 | yo |
| 07:26.18 | mckenziemc | out of curiosity, which line? |
| 07:26.21 | mckenziemc | hey mitch0 |
| 07:26.48 | Parnic | self.frame.targetName:SetVertexColor(UnitSelectionColor(self.unit)) in TargetInfo. around line 1502ish (some local mods may make that number slightly off) |
| 07:27.07 | Parnic | more specifically, if i comment out SetVertexColor and just do print(UnitSelectionColor(self.unit)), i still get the crash |
| 07:27.19 | mckenziemc | weird |
| 07:28.31 | Parnic | yep. but like i said, i can't create an empty mod that causes the same problem, so i really don't know where to begin reporting the issue proper to Blizzard (aside from crash dump reporting) |
| 07:28.40 | Adirelle | Zhinjio, what bag was it specifically ? |
| 07:29.16 | Parnic | i could possibly work around it by caching the last-known UnitName of self.unit and only call selection color if that changes...i dunno |
| 07:29.40 | Parnic | or re-implement UnitSelectionColor myself, i guess. |
| 07:30.09 | mitch0 | what does that do? |
| 07:30.18 | mitch0 | doesn't sound like too fancy |
| 07:30.31 | Parnic | !api UnitSelectionColor |
| 07:30.32 | lua_bot | UnitSelectionColor: Returns a color indicating hostility and related status of a unit (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitSelectionColor) |
| 07:30.50 | mitch0 | yeah, well, just implement your own |
| 07:31.09 | Parnic | it's used in 3 places in all of blizzard's code |
| 07:31.16 | Parnic | once in the raid ui, once in the focus frame, and once in the target frame |
| 07:31.28 | mckenziemc | wait a second |
| 07:31.41 | mckenziemc | but why does disabling dogtags cause it? |
| 07:31.51 | mckenziemc | if it's present does IH skip the erring line? |
| 07:31.56 | Parnic | because the code path that calls UnitSelectionColor() doesn't run when dogtags is on |
| 07:32.10 | Zhinjio | Adirelle: I was attempting to slot a Netherweave bag into an empty bank and bag slot |
| 07:32.16 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 07:32.17 | Fisker | self.unit sounds silly |
| 07:32.18 | Adirelle | ok |
| 07:32.19 | Zhinjio | sorry, should have mentioned that in the ticket |
| 07:32.22 | Parnic | Fisker sounds silly |
| 07:32.22 | Fisker | i think it's that |
| 07:32.25 | Fisker | :( |
| 07:32.31 | Fisker | Fisker is awesome |
| 07:33.15 | Torhal | !api unitexists |
| 07:33.15 | lua_bot | UnitExists: Returns whether a unit exists (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitExists) |
| 07:33.19 | Torhal | Parnic: ^ |
| 07:33.31 | Parnic | yeah, gonna try that next |
| 07:33.53 | Fisker | self.unit is wrong Parnic |
| 07:33.55 | Fisker | and you know it |
| 07:34.15 | Torhal | Just because you have no unit, Fisker, does not mean his code is wrong. |
| 07:34.16 | Parnic | Fisker: just to make you happy, i tried print(UnitSelectionColor("target")) and it still crashed |
| 07:34.38 | mckenziemc | Fisker = nil |
| 07:34.54 | Fisker | haha |
| 07:36.26 | Fisker | is impossible Parnic :( |
| 07:36.32 | Parnic | holy crap, torhal. i think that worked |
| 07:36.40 | Fisker | maybe it's because the addon is called icehud then? |
| 07:36.55 | Fisker | Torhal i'm talking morally wrong |
| 07:38.15 | Parnic | nevermind. test 1 was succesful, test 2 failed. UnitExists is not enough :( |
| 07:38.44 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 07:39.08 | Parnic | yeah, screw this api. going to either dump it altogether or use something else |
| 07:39.15 | Parnic | UnitReactionColor is probably just as good |
| 07:39.26 | mckenziemc | could use whatever DogTag uses :p |
| 07:39.56 | Zimbo | anyone use tukui -.- |
| 07:40.06 | KriLL3 | warning problim is no longer CC:able |
| 07:40.33 | Parnic | interesting idea, mckenziemc...dogtags uses AggroColor which calls the same api. then again, it will only update on a schedule and not on events directly |
| 07:40.47 | Parnic | i wonder if [AggroColor] would cause the same crash :P |
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| 07:47.49 | mitch0 | parnic: have you tried UnitExists yet? |
| 07:47.59 | Parnic | mitch0: yeap. didn't work for me |
| 07:48.30 | mitch0 | are you sure you did it right? :) |
| 07:48.36 | Parnic | heh |
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| 08:06.45 | Parnic | mckenziemc: custom UnitSelectionColor appears to work |
| 08:06.54 | Parnic | not sure i got all the edge cases that the built in api uses, but it should be good enough |
| 08:07.49 | mckenziemc | i don't understand |
| 08:07.57 | Parnic | which part? :P |
| 08:08.04 | mckenziemc | by 'custom' do you mean you coded an alternative? |
| 08:08.14 | Parnic | i made my own version of UnitSelectionColor, yes |
| 08:08.18 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 08:08.30 | Parnic | should be pretty much identical |
| 08:08.36 | mckenziemc | the default one is a C function right+ |
| 08:08.38 | mckenziemc | ?* |
| 08:08.50 | Parnic | i'd assume so, given that it's crashing :P |
| 08:08.58 | Parnic | that or it calls a c function somewhere |
| 08:09.27 | mckenziemc | is it a race condition that's causing the default one to crash? |
| 08:10.15 | Parnic | no way to know, really. most likely it is trying to do some work on a var that hasn't been freed up correctly or is derefing a pointer that's null without checking for it |
| 08:10.40 | Parnic | "memory cannot be read" is in the crash report which tends to indicate deref of a null ptr in native code |
| 08:10.50 | Parnic | possibly deref of garbage pointer, but i'd hazard a guess that null is more likely |
| 08:19.52 | mckenziemc | Parnic: do you intend to test the broken function further and report it to blizzard, or should i do it |
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| 08:22.41 | Parnic | mckenziemc: i really need to sleep right now, but i tried creating an empty mod to invoke this crash and couldn't |
| 08:22.51 | Parnic | it was listening to a few events and just printing UnitReactionColor. never crashed |
| 08:23.06 | Parnic | so i'd like to narrow it down, but i am not sure which event (or series of events) is necessary |
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| 08:23.15 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 08:24.44 | mckenziemc | i put things on my TODO list faster then i take things off, but i'll try to test it sometime |
| 08:25.12 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r3183 / (4 files in 4 directories): small update |
| 08:26.04 | Fisker | jersk |
| 08:26.17 | Fisker | just repro, spam the crash tool with "FIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXIT" |
| 08:26.26 | Fisker | job well done |
| 08:26.30 | mckenziemc | fiskerk |
| 08:27.04 | mckenziemc | ~fiskers |
| 08:27.04 | purl | ACTION fiskers Fisker's fiskers. |
| 08:28.29 | KriLL3 | anyone spotted a LDB plugin that shows a mail icon if you got unread mail similar to the minimap button? |
| 08:29.20 | KriLL3 | only one I've found so far always shows an icon and instead uses a # |
| 08:30.07 | mckenziemc | heh, i can just imagine, an ldb addon that says "You've got mail!" when you log in |
| 08:30.18 | KriLL3 | ... |
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| 08:30.33 | KriLL3 | btw why are most LDB plugins not in that category? most are in misc |
| 08:30.37 | KriLL3 | which is confusing |
| 08:31.43 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 08:32.10 | KriLL3 | found it, broker_mail |
| 08:32.16 | KriLL3 | only complaint is that the mail icon is green |
| 08:32.18 | KriLL3 | GREEN |
| 08:33.10 | mckenziemc | fisker |
| 08:33.17 | mckenziemc | i need to target something first |
| 08:33.20 | mckenziemc | can you help |
| 08:33.27 | Fisker | i can't? |
| 08:33.58 | mckenziemc | but, i need your help |
| 08:34.10 | mckenziemc | it's giving me this error message and i don't know why |
| 08:34.43 | mckenziemc | cuz you know, i don't pay $15 a month to get error messages! |
| 08:35.10 | Fisker | you do |
| 08:36.55 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r823 modules/TargetInfo.lua: |
| 08:36.56 | Repo | - hopefully "fixed" (read: worked around) crash that IceHUD was triggering in the client by implementing a Lua-only version of UnitSelectionColor(). the crash was triggered by having DogTags disabled, TargetInfo enabled, and leaving an instance while in combat with one of the instance's mobs targeted (ticket #110) |
| 08:36.56 | Fisker | nevcairiel |
| 08:37.07 | Fisker | there's absolutely no decent 4GB DIMM's here :( |
| 08:38.07 | Kalroth | qq |
| 08:38.12 | Kalroth | what is a decent 4GB dimm |
| 08:38.39 | Parnic | you trying to run 12gb on 3 chips, fisker? |
| 08:40.27 | Fisker | no Parnic |
| 08:40.47 | Parnic | but why would you run anything other than DDR3 triple-channel? |
| 08:40.56 | Fisker | if i were trying to run anything on 3 chips it would be 12GB and not 12 whateverthatis-bit |
| 08:41.04 | Fisker | why wouldn't i Parnic ? |
| 08:41.05 | Parnic | oh jeez |
| 08:41.16 | Parnic | it's too late for Fiskering. i'm going to bed |
| 08:41.21 | Fisker | bai |
| 08:41.22 | Fisker | also |
| 08:41.34 | Fisker | scientifically proven that triple channel memory provides no benefit |
| 08:41.45 | Fisker | (other than the extra space for memory of course) |
| 08:41.55 | Parnic | STAND BACK! I'M DOING SCIENCE! |
| 08:41.58 | Parnic | is gone |
| 08:42.07 | Kalroth | Fisker is Intel fanboi too, there's no way you'll convince him that it is dumb that Sandy Bridge is dual-channel only |
| 08:42.20 | Fisker | it isn't Kalroth |
| 08:42.25 | Kalroth | :) |
| 08:42.26 | Fisker | stop being a Fisker-fanboy |
| 08:44.56 | Kalroth | are there any good benchmarks on the i7-2600 yet?! |
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| 09:01.45 | Fisker | yes Kalroth |
| 09:02.07 | Adirelle|work | I'm wondering if they still apply the quality modified when determining item stat budget |
| 09:03.13 | wink | how was the addon with the stat weightings called? |
| 09:05.00 | wink | pawn |
| 09:06.35 | Zyn- | gosh darnit Blizzard, 3D face portraits on Worgen doesn't work |
| 09:07.33 | Fisker | Adirelle|work you mean if rares are better than uncommon, and epics are better than rares? |
| 09:07.35 | Fisker | then no |
| 09:07.41 | Fisker | That was removed |
| 09:09.39 | KriLL3 | Zyn-: that's a blizzard thing? |
| 09:09.46 | KriLL3 | I thought it was some lib |
| 09:10.11 | KriLL3 | and yeah you get the whole character model |
| 09:10.27 | KriLL3 | not sure if it works for worgen in humanoid |
| 09:10.31 | KriLL3 | *human |
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| 09:11.13 | KriLL3 | anyone spotted a LDB plugin that shows a mail icon if you got mail but nothing if you don't? broker_mail shows a green mail icon if you got mail, a white mail icon if you don't... |
| 09:12.47 | Zimbo | there is a worgen sniff addon but where is the goblin laugh addon :3 hehe.. they are annoying imo ;) |
| 09:13.08 | KriLL3 | yeah they constantly do those sounds |
| 09:13.38 | Zimbo | yeah =\ i just made a icehud texture and layout but looks like Parnic is working on his code. ;3 |
| 09:13.41 | KriLL3 | Zimbo: name of worgen sniff one? |
| 09:14.06 | KriLL3 | worgen and sniff didn't find it in curse |
| 09:14.10 | Zimbo | Worgen Sniff Mute is one the other is |
| 09:14.20 | KriLL3 | hmm not on curse then |
| 09:14.22 | Zimbo | its on wowinterface |
| 09:14.28 | KriLL3 | yeah figured |
| 09:14.44 | Zimbo | worgensniffremover is on curse |
| 09:15.06 | KriLL3 | errm, it edits sound files, is that allowed? |
| 09:15.13 | Zimbo | nope sure isnt imo |
| 09:15.23 | Zimbo | but there is one that disables the call for it |
| 09:15.27 | Zimbo | in lua |
| 09:15.40 | Zimbo | let me find it ;o |
| 09:16.05 | KriLL3 | yeah I'd prefer that one, don't fancy getting banned for modifying game files ;) |
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| 09:16.11 | hatrsg2haet | http://images.4chan.org/v/src/1294131798487.jpg |
| 09:16.12 | Zimbo | hehe i agree ;) |
| 09:16.15 | hatrsg2haet | I aint afraid of no warden! |
| 09:16.25 | mckenziemc | considering it -overrides- the existing files rather than deleting or modifying them, i doubt it's against ToS |
| 09:16.39 | KriLL3 | mckenziemc: ah |
| 09:17.05 | Kalroth | I like the female goblin laugh, it's so cute! |
| 09:17.14 | hatrsg2haet | im definety doing something against the tos |
| 09:17.15 | hatrsg2haet | :3 |
| 09:17.16 | Zimbo | omg its annoying on starter zone |
| 09:17.34 | Zimbo | do you even play with the sound on or do you mimic the noise without listening to it hehe |
| 09:19.00 | Zimbo | wow.. looks like the one i was talking about was removed ;o |
| 09:19.02 | Kalroth | Well I only spent 1 hour on the starting island |
| 09:19.23 | Zimbo | meh 1 hour is too long though i mean even a minute of listening to it i go insane.. |
| 09:21.08 | hatrsg2haet | kalroth bot it up |
| 09:21.50 | Zimbo | its a shame you cant mute individual peoples audio ;) |
| 09:21.59 | Zimbo | so it doesnt call for the sound of them |
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| 09:22.08 | Zimbo | when they cast or whatever ;o |
| 09:22.11 | Kalroth | Not just sound, effects too |
| 09:22.16 | Zimbo | yeah |
| 09:22.21 | Kalroth | People spamming their AoE shit at AH sucks |
| 09:22.25 | Zimbo | mute everyone but yourself or those on your party |
| 09:22.44 | Zimbo | or mute all but opposite faction |
| 09:23.48 | Zimbo | looks like there is a play sound ;o |
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| 09:28.00 | mckenziemc | yeah but that only works for interface stuff i believe |
| 09:31.46 | Zimbo | just theory though ;o |
| 09:31.59 | Zimbo | if player requests to playsound how would you deny :) |
| 09:32.31 | Zimbo | you can find out if he is sending a packet to request it but you wouldnt beable to deny the request or ignore it ;o |
| 09:32.56 | mckenziemc | huh? |
| 09:32.58 | Zimbo | unless there is something you can use in regular Lua.. |
| 09:33.10 | Zimbo | to deny the request. |
| 09:33.14 | Zimbo | Again this is Theory ;) |
| 09:33.35 | mckenziemc | what i'm saying is that PlaySound is only used for interface stuff (if i understand correctly), any sounds from the game world won't go through Lua at all |
| 09:34.03 | Zimbo | overwriting a sound file is still considered modification though ;o |
| 09:34.32 | Zimbo | according to the tou/tos |
| 09:34.45 | mckenziemc | overwriting, but not overrriding |
| 09:35.02 | Zimbo | its blank sound |
| 09:35.07 | mckenziemc | overwriting would be replacing the existing file directly |
| 09:35.14 | Zimbo | yeah |
| 09:35.27 | Zimbo | but your overriding the sound file by overwriting |
| 09:35.33 | Zimbo | with blank |
| 09:35.34 | mckenziemc | this is putting a different file in a different spot, knowing that WoW will (by design) use it instead |
| 09:35.41 | Zimbo | hrm |
| 09:35.46 | Zimbo | -looks- |
| 09:36.51 | Zimbo | guess so ;o since I couldnt find the sound folder ;3 |
| 09:37.03 | KriLL3 | always fun to be #1 dps at 6k in an heroic... |
| 09:37.05 | KriLL3 | guy with as good gear as me was last, well healer was last but he was the last dps at 3k dps |
| 09:37.13 | KriLL3 | not sure how you manage, he was retri |
| 09:37.23 | mckenziemc | the 'default' worgen sniff sound is stored in the MPQ files; i believe that when WoW loads, it extracts all of the 'files' out of the mpq, and stores them into a 'virtual' file system, but by design will use anything present in Sound instead |
| 09:37.38 | KriLL3 | retri in 340~ gear and 3k dps |
| 09:37.54 | Zimbo | seen a 160k hp druid today.. without being fullyed buffed out ;) was sort of freaking out since im not 85 yet ;o |
| 09:38.00 | Zimbo | fully* |
| 09:38.10 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 09:38.43 | KriLL3 | I'm 150 unbuffed but I got some dodge/agi in there |
| 09:38.49 | Zimbo | horde taurem - druid i think it was ;o |
| 09:38.54 | Zimbo | tauren* |
| 09:39.16 | electronicmaji | hey zimbo |
| 09:39.22 | Zimbo | ? |
| 09:39.24 | electronicmaji | tauren are the horde version of black men |
| 09:39.31 | KriLL3 | pure stam isn't very popular amongst healers |
| 09:39.38 | KriLL3 | mana sponge |
| 09:39.46 | Zimbo | so they like to be taken to market? :o |
| 09:39.49 | electronicmaji | Big Strong and Dumb a rocks |
| 09:39.58 | Zimbo | ah ok |
| 09:40.02 | mckenziemc | >< |
| 09:40.11 | Zimbo | well what do you do with cattle normally you eat them |
| 09:40.19 | electronicmaji | niggers |
| 09:40.20 | Zimbo | so i thought he was stating that.. |
| 09:40.50 | Zimbo | but i can see how one could say slavery to that comment i made ;o |
| 09:41.10 | Zimbo | sorry. |
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| 09:52.36 | KriLL3 | tried to do HC stonecore twice now, both groups wiped halfway into Corborus... |
| 09:52.41 | KriLL3 | damned idiots didn't aoe shards despite being told to do so... the mage started to aoe them once they were mobile, when it's too late |
| 09:52.57 | KriLL3 | basically half or so made it to players |
| 09:53.24 | KriLL3 | oh and said mage stood in the middle of of his path during burrow... so second surface phase we only have a hunter that didn't aoe |
| 09:53.35 | *** kick/#wowace [electronicmaji!~callahan@c-68-62-171-74.hsd1.al.comcast.net] by Torhal (electronicmaji) |
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| 09:54.08 | Torhal | goes to sleep. |
| 09:54.19 | mckenziemc | wakes Torhal |
| 09:55.08 | ben | Is Ludwig still a think |
| 09:55.10 | ben | or is there a replacement |
| 09:55.18 | ben | I kinda miss the whole autocompletion deal |
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| 09:57.42 | mckenziemc | 'You have my undivided attention' says a worgen NPC as he runs off, leaving me to defend against 3 hostiles : / |
| 09:57.58 | Kalroth | haha |
| 10:04.19 | KriLL3 | ben: ludwig isn't maintained |
| 10:04.26 | KriLL3 | it's telo's lootlink again |
| 10:04.42 | KriLL3 | but a word of caution, makes loads about 2x as long |
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| 10:08.38 | ben | Also does not seem to do the thing I hoped it would |
| 10:11.16 | KriLL3 | I think we need a new addon for that stuff, blizzard doesn't handle items the same way anymore as is shown in atlasloot |
| 10:11.32 | KriLL3 | you don't need to request etc so no need for a huge local database that slows you down |
| 10:11.36 | KriLL3 | and it should be LOD |
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| 10:14.52 | KriLL3 | why did I get dungeon deserter debuff this time but not the earlier tries? |
| 10:21.36 | KriLL3 | why isn't the 15min timer for kick/deserter shown anymore? trying to find a LDB plugin for that but can't |
| 10:22.29 | RaydenUni | what do you guys think about someone asking you to kick them so they don't get the debuff? |
| 10:23.07 | KriLL3 | makes sense |
| 10:23.15 | KriLL3 | though it shouldn't be needed |
| 10:23.26 | RaydenUni | i'm not sure why i should accomodate someone who is leaving my group |
| 10:23.29 | mckenziemc | only in rare cases |
| 10:23.44 | KriLL3 | if they're leaving for a good reason? |
| 10:23.48 | RaydenUni | "hey, my mom just slipped and hurt herself, i got to go" |
| 10:23.50 | RaydenUni | sure, why not |
| 10:24.04 | RaydenUni | "one person just died and our hunter left, so i think i'm going to leave" |
| 10:24.05 | KriLL3 | RaydenUni: doubt he'd want to use the LFG tool again within 15mins |
| 10:24.08 | RaydenUni | that was the reason |
| 10:24.17 | RaydenUni | hmm, true |
| 10:24.32 | KriLL3 | and yeah one dps leaving isn't reason enough to disband |
| 10:24.46 | RaydenUni | like i'm not sure why i want this person to not get a leaver mark |
| 10:24.56 | RaydenUni | if they want to leave the run, they should accept the penalty |
| 10:24.57 | RaydenUni | ;/ |
| 10:25.05 | mckenziemc | actually if someone's already left, anyone else who leaves does not get deserter iirc |
| 10:25.08 | KriLL3 | but as tank playing with 4 very poorly geared players in one of the harder heroic instances when it's clear they're either idiots or don't know english... well |
| 10:25.25 | mckenziemc | i think it only applies to the first person |
| 10:25.32 | KriLL3 | mckenziemc: even if kicked? |
| 10:26.00 | mckenziemc | oh idk how it worked if the first person was kicked |
| 10:26.13 | mckenziemc | how it would work* |
| 10:26.34 | mckenziemc | err, now i'm getting confused about what you're asking |
| 10:26.42 | Kalroth | Usually its the tank being the dumbass! |
| 10:26.46 | mckenziemc | if someone gets kicked, they don't get deserter |
| 10:27.06 | KriLL3 | mckenziemc: if someone gets kicked and someone else leaves do they get deserter? |
| 10:27.09 | mckenziemc | if one person leaves on their own, they get deserter, but i -think- that anyone else who leaves does not |
| 10:27.28 | RaydenUni | trying to manage CC as a tank is harder than i expected |
| 10:27.32 | RaydenUni | after not doing it for so long |
| 10:27.33 | mckenziemc | if the first gets kicked and then someone else leaves on their own, idk if they'd get it or nor |
| 10:27.34 | mckenziemc | not |
| 10:27.36 | KriLL3 | say can I kick the worst idiot from the group and then leave |
| 10:28.03 | KriLL3 | RaydenUni: yeah took me some time to get to grips with it, especially since there is new CC, removed CC and changed CC |
| 10:28.17 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 10:28.18 | KriLL3 | like only retri got repent, not all palas |
| 10:28.28 | RaydenUni | and shamans sometimes have 2 CCs |
| 10:28.31 | RaydenUni | if there are elementals |
| 10:28.39 | KriLL3 | yeah one for elementals one for humanoid |
| 10:28.54 | RaydenUni | do you have your dps CC pull? or you pull and they CC after you pull? |
| 10:29.05 | KriLL3 | oh and beasts |
| 10:29.12 | KriLL3 | depends on the CC |
| 10:29.19 | KriLL3 | some don't work in combat |
| 10:29.22 | KriLL3 | like sap |
| 10:29.43 | RaydenUni | i was doing vortex |
| 10:29.47 | RaydenUni | i had 2 shamans and a mage |
| 10:29.49 | RaydenUni | also a priest |
| 10:30.06 | RaydenUni | so FIVE ranged CCs potentially |
| 10:30.09 | KriLL3 | mages can't poly elementals |
| 10:30.18 | RaydenUni | well once we got to the cat guys |
| 10:30.26 | KriLL3 | ah yeah |
| 10:30.29 | KriLL3 | priest? MC? |
| 10:30.30 | RaydenUni | although no more elemental i guess |
| 10:30.35 | RaydenUni | yeah, he was MC'ing the adepts |
| 10:30.37 | RaydenUni | the healers |
| 10:30.44 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 10:30.47 | KriLL3 | works as long as it's not a healer |
| 10:30.58 | RaydenUni | he was the healer |
| 10:31.01 | RaydenUni | he healed with the adept |
| 10:31.03 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 10:31.12 | KriLL3 | good or not? |
| 10:31.43 | KriLL3 | also MC seems to have a CD longer than duration |
| 10:31.59 | KriLL3 | tried to let a shadow priest MC there and he couldn't maintain it |
| 10:32.06 | RaydenUni | this guy didn't have a problem |
| 10:32.10 | KriLL3 | adept went loose and healed what we were killing |
| 10:32.11 | RaydenUni | at least including my taunt duration |
| 10:32.19 | RaydenUni | it seemed to work |
| 10:32.20 | RaydenUni | but |
| 10:32.25 | RaydenUni | let's say there are 5 mobs |
| 10:32.27 | RaydenUni | 2 are being CC'd |
| 10:32.39 | RaydenUni | if we CC pull then i have to get aggro on 3 guys who are angry at my shamans |
| 10:32.48 | RaydenUni | vs i pull and the shamans quickly CC the last 2 guys to run in |
| 10:32.58 | KriLL3 | yeah that situation I'd pull |
| 10:33.00 | RaydenUni | if there are casters this is even easir as they don't move |
| 10:33.11 | KriLL3 | unless you want to kill casters first |
| 10:33.26 | KriLL3 | hate when DPS doesn't use ranged interrupts to make the casters move from CC:ed |
| 10:33.33 | KriLL3 | I don't have any ranged interrupt |
| 10:33.36 | RaydenUni | i just sit and watch as a bear |
| 10:33.38 | RaydenUni | i got nothing |
| 10:33.41 | RaydenUni | which class for you? |
| 10:33.44 | KriLL3 | feral |
| 10:33.56 | KriLL3 | I can charge and then skull bash, but then I'm out of position |
| 10:34.05 | KriLL3 | and need to walk backwards |
| 10:34.13 | KriLL3 | and can't aoe |
| 10:34.32 | KriLL3 | and if they've started to pile on the non casters already I've lost aggro |
| 10:34.36 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 10:34.45 | RaydenUni | if a pull goes wrong and i have to pick up 3 guys it's rough |
| 10:34.51 | RaydenUni | especially if i've mismanaged my rage and i ran out |
| 10:34.53 | RaydenUni | now i have none |
| 10:35.09 | KriLL3 | shift to bear and you got 10 |
| 10:35.17 | KriLL3 | enrage and you got 40 |
| 10:35.20 | RaydenUni | then i have to shift out and back in |
| 10:35.26 | KriLL3 | not with a macro |
| 10:35.30 | KriLL3 | shifts from bear to bear |
| 10:35.33 | RaydenUni | it pisses me off that that initial 10 is not enough to cast ANYTHING |
| 10:35.43 | KriLL3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:35.50 | KriLL3 | only shifts to bear |
| 10:35.52 | RaydenUni | eh |
| 10:35.55 | KriLL3 | doesn't cancel it |
| 10:36.05 | KriLL3 | you shift from bear to bear |
| 10:36.11 | KriLL3 | works with catform as well |
| 10:36.19 | KriLL3 | shift from cat to cat, useful in pvp against slowers |
| 10:36.26 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 10:36.28 | KriLL3 | removes slows etc |
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| 10:36.44 | KriLL3 | you need another button to leave feral forms though ofc if you use that |
| 10:37.03 | KriLL3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:37.05 | KriLL3 | each on their own line |
| 10:37.22 | KriLL3 | also exists vehicles of all forms, both mounts and demos etc |
| 10:37.25 | RaydenUni | i put all my "state" switching on its own bar |
| 10:37.28 | RaydenUni | for bartender |
| 10:37.31 | RaydenUni | and shift to it |
| 10:37.47 | KriLL3 | I got all that on my mouse |
| 10:37.55 | RaydenUni | 1=bear, 2=water, 3=cat, 4=travel, 5=flight, 6=ground mount, 7=moonkin |
| 10:38.08 | RaydenUni | or water mount actually |
| 10:38.20 | KriLL3 | bearform, catform, gogo (aquatic/travel/mount/fly) and cancel forms/mounts/vehicles |
| 10:38.24 | RaydenUni | i actually have used all 10 bars bartender gives me |
| 10:38.29 | KriLL3 | gogo is really nice that way |
| 10:38.31 | RaydenUni | wait |
| 10:38.32 | KriLL3 | one button does all you need |
| 10:38.42 | RaydenUni | you put travel and mount and fly on one button? |
| 10:38.46 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 10:38.48 | RaydenUni | based on whether you are moving or not? |
| 10:38.49 | KriLL3 | and aquatic |
| 10:38.53 | KriLL3 | yes and where I am |
| 10:38.55 | KriLL3 | or in combat etc |
| 10:38.58 | RaydenUni | attempt to cast flight, then mount, then travel? |
| 10:39.04 | KriLL3 | no doesn't try |
| 10:39.06 | KriLL3 | does the right thing |
| 10:39.12 | RaydenUni | how? |
| 10:39.16 | KriLL3 | gogo mount |
| 10:39.18 | KriLL3 | addon |
| 10:39.19 | RaydenUni | if/check? |
| 10:39.20 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 10:39.30 | KriLL3 | and yeah it checks zone, speed etc |
| 10:39.36 | RaydenUni | bah, need 10 more blackened dragonscale |
| 10:39.39 | KriLL3 | has stuff for random mounts etc also ofc |
| 10:40.01 | KriLL3 | RaydenUni: Obsidian Forest in Twiligth Highlands |
| 10:40.07 | RaydenUni | where i am |
| 10:40.12 | KriLL3 | heh |
| 10:40.15 | RaydenUni | maxed out my tol'vir resets earlier so i came here |
| 10:40.21 | RaydenUni | but i figure i might as well get 60 for this cloak |
| 10:40.28 | KriLL3 | back when more people leveled I flight skinned that area, quest to kill mobs there |
| 10:40.52 | KriLL3 | got rich quickly from all that leather fire and dragonscales |
| 10:41.02 | KriLL3 | on mobs I didn't kill |
| 10:41.33 | RaydenUni | i LOVE flight skin/collect/questing things |
| 10:41.35 | RaydenUni | feels like cheating |
| 10:41.56 | KriLL3 | only issue is that mount speed guild buff doesn't apply to flightform |
| 10:42.04 | KriLL3 | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/gogomount.aspx that addon btw |
| 10:42.07 | RaydenUni | what? |
| 10:42.08 | RaydenUni | fail |
| 10:42.23 | RaydenUni | you're saying i should actually use a flying mount for the first time ever? |
| 10:42.25 | KriLL3 | that's why I got gogo set to use flying mount if I'm stationary and can fly |
| 10:42.30 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 10:42.33 | RaydenUni | fail |
| 10:42.45 | KriLL3 | 410% vs 451% |
| 10:42.52 | RaydenUni | 410? |
| 10:42.54 | RaydenUni | not 310? |
| 10:42.57 | KriLL3 | well it's total |
| 10:43.01 | RaydenUni | oh right |
| 10:43.03 | KriLL3 | hence includes base 100 |
| 10:43.15 | KriLL3 | that's how most speed addons show it |
| 10:43.37 | Kalroth | haaaaa, fuck druids |
| 10:43.38 | KriLL3 | 100 when walking 0 when stationary 410% in swift flight 451% with speed guild buff on a flying mount |
| 10:43.59 | RaydenUni | i love quests where i can fly around and wait for alliance to kill the dudes, then i swoop in and grab the quest item |
| 10:44.02 | KriLL3 | Kalroth: well I mix, I still use my free fall decent method |
| 10:44.09 | KriLL3 | I just unmount, and then flightform |
| 10:44.15 | RaydenUni | i love doing that too |
| 10:44.21 | selckin | feel so cheated by blizzard with the whole cc thing, don't even need it on the trash packs in raids :( |
| 10:44.25 | KriLL3 | well as long as you don't get that random in combat thing |
| 10:44.27 | Kalroth | druids should get a 2 second stun when herbing in flight form |
| 10:44.31 | KriLL3 | gotten that in tanaris twice now |
| 10:44.35 | RaydenUni | yeah, i got that bad one night |
| 10:44.39 | KriLL3 | get in combat the second I leave flight form |
| 10:44.39 | RaydenUni | every 10 seconds or so |
| 10:44.50 | KriLL3 | and stay in combat until I hit the ground |
| 10:44.53 | RaydenUni | hah |
| 10:45.01 | KriLL3 | Kalroth: I don't herb in flight, I skin in flight =P |
| 10:45.09 | RaydenUni | why is monkey island running? |
| 10:45.11 | RaydenUni | i never started that |
| 10:45.18 | Kalroth | KriLL3: Even worse! |
| 10:45.23 | KriLL3 | RaydenUni: on windows 7 task bar? |
| 10:45.30 | RaydenUni | it wasn't |
| 10:45.36 | KriLL3 | ah, had a theory |
| 10:45.37 | RaydenUni | showed up in processes |
| 10:45.38 | KriLL3 | winkey + # |
| 10:45.45 | KriLL3 | starts that pinned application |
| 10:45.48 | RaydenUni | what does that do? |
| 10:45.48 | RaydenUni | oh no |
| 10:45.49 | KriLL3 | 1-0 |
| 10:45.57 | RaydenUni | this was from steam |
| 10:46.02 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 10:46.11 | Kalroth | probably just a broken process then |
| 10:46.24 | RaydenUni | man my computer is unhappy right now |
| 10:46.29 | RaydenUni | i feel like wow is running like shit lately |
| 10:46.37 | RaydenUni | when a lot's going on i drop below 20fps |
| 10:46.43 | KriLL3 | do some early spring cleaning |
| 10:46.44 | RaydenUni | core 2 duo, gtx260m |
| 10:46.52 | RaydenUni | *should* be enough to run wow |
| 10:46.59 | RaydenUni | i should disable all addons and see how well it runs |
| 10:47.09 | KriLL3 | I got a C2Q6600 GTX260 + 8800gts320 |
| 10:47.15 | KriLL3 | runs fine |
| 10:47.16 | RaydenUni | the one thing that totally slams it is hovering over gear |
| 10:47.22 | RaydenUni | like from quests |
| 10:47.27 | RaydenUni | takes forever to load that |
| 10:47.30 | RaydenUni | 1 second maybe |
| 10:47.33 | KriLL3 | sounds like an addon issue |
| 10:47.58 | RaydenUni | maybe |
| 10:49.02 | Kalroth | RaydenUni: 32 or 64 bit? |
| 10:49.07 | RaydenUni | 64 bit windows |
| 10:49.16 | Kalroth | tried the LAA hack? |
| 10:49.19 | KriLL3 | does it matter? wow is 32bit |
| 10:49.25 | KriLL3 | LAA hack? |
| 10:49.25 | Kalroth | How much memory do you have? |
| 10:49.35 | RaydenUni | 4gb |
| 10:49.44 | Kalroth | oh |
| 10:49.47 | RaydenUni | i was going to say, does wow have a 64 bit client? |
| 10:49.48 | Kalroth | no use then |
| 10:49.49 | RaydenUni | not even sc2 does |
| 10:49.58 | Kalroth | You can make the client Large Address Aware |
| 10:49.59 | KriLL3 | nope it's 32bit only |
| 10:49.59 | RaydenUni | currently using 3gb |
| 10:50.05 | RaydenUni | wow is using 900mb |
| 10:50.17 | RaydenUni | could be i'm running a shit ton of addons |
| 10:50.18 | RaydenUni | :D |
| 10:50.32 | Arrowmaster | pff my browser was using 4gb earlier |
| 10:50.39 | RaydenUni | run chrome |
| 10:50.44 | RaydenUni | kill flash occasionally |
| 10:50.52 | KriLL3 | wow uses 1.1GB here |
| 10:51.06 | Dingo- | Yo! Anyone here willing to help me out with iceHUD? |
| 10:51.09 | Dingo- | I just want target health to be shown like [15.4k/18.6k] instead of [15412321/18612312] |
| 10:51.13 | KriLL3 | Firefox, the best browser in existence, uses 340MB |
| 10:51.30 | Kalroth | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1658706617?page=6#101 for anyone wanting to read up on LAA |
| 10:51.39 | KriLL3 | 4B8 btw |
| 10:51.44 | RaydenUni | chrome itself is uing 94, 79, 68, 57, 54, 36, 34, 26, 25, 23, etc etc |
| 10:51.47 | RaydenUni | so many tabs |
| 10:52.32 | RaydenUni | how many gb does wow have access to currently? |
| 10:52.52 | KriLL3 | Repentance "Usable against Demons, Dragonkin, Giants, Humanoids and Undead." |
| 10:53.01 | KriLL3 | so errm, not bests and elementals? |
| 10:53.02 | KriLL3 | what else? |
| 10:53.10 | KriLL3 | *beasts |
| 10:53.18 | RaydenUni | basically things with souls |
| 10:53.30 | KriLL3 | dragons have souls but beasts don't |
| 10:53.34 | KriLL3 | + |
| 10:53.35 | KriLL3 | ? |
| 10:53.45 | KriLL3 | we don't have souls in feral forms? =P |
| 10:54.55 | KriLL3 | just me or is all this CC stuff overly complicated? |
| 10:55.15 | RaydenUni | i just made it up |
| 10:55.17 | RaydenUni | but it seems to hold |
| 10:55.20 | KriLL3 | I got a solution, give all dps a CC that works on everything except what's not supposed to be CC:able |
| 10:55.25 | RaydenUni | i would argue dragons have souls but beasts don't |
| 10:55.30 | KriLL3 | that way you always got 3 CC |
| 10:55.32 | RaydenUni | where's the flavor! |
| 10:55.45 | KriLL3 | not random # that works on random stuff |
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| 11:01.00 | RaydenUni | 2 more scales! |
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| 11:02.25 | selckin | get some friends and don't use cc imo |
| 11:03.30 | KriLL3 | heh |
| 11:03.41 | selckin | we gave up on cc after like the 2nd day of hc farming |
| 11:03.44 | KriLL3 | well those damned earth guys at least need interrrupts |
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| 11:03.59 | selckin | interrupts & stuns make everything really easy idd |
| 11:04.09 | KriLL3 | if people interrupt/stun enough CC isn't really needed but DPS seems to forget they have those |
| 11:04.19 | selckin | halls needed some before the fireball nerf |
| 11:04.22 | selckin | but that was about it |
| 11:04.40 | KriLL3 | love having a rogue next to me and the damn cast finishers since skull bash has cooldown and rage cost |
| 11:05.24 | KriLL3 | doesn't matter if the DPS is the target of the cast, they still don't interrupt or stun enraged etc |
| 11:05.52 | KriLL3 | blizz' fault in part, in LK DPS just had to focus on their rotations |
| 11:06.02 | KriLL3 | didn't need to interrupt/CC/stun |
| 11:06.15 | selckin | or you get a dk that goes 'i can interrupt?' |
| 11:06.33 | KriLL3 | they can interrupt but I don't know which ability it is |
| 11:06.46 | KriLL3 | haven't played a DK since they were announced |
| 11:06.46 | Megalon | mind freeze |
| 11:06.49 | KriLL3 | ah |
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| 11:07.30 | KriLL3 | what's the name of their "har har you're all icecubes!" ability? |
| 11:07.58 | selckin | i can even get away with no cc in like 80% of my lfg groups |
| 11:08.07 | selckin | even in grim batol etc |
| 11:08.10 | selckin | i just leave the others :/ |
| 11:08.23 | RaydenUni | my gear isn't good enough |
| 11:08.26 | RaydenUni | i have 1 heroic piece |
| 11:08.39 | RaydenUni | but with some good dps and good healer runs are super smooth |
| 11:08.47 | RaydenUni | especially if the dps is good with CC |
| 11:08.51 | KriLL3 | I'm full 346 with 2 350~ purples (LW) |
| 11:09.03 | RaydenUni | no purps yet |
| 11:09.06 | KriLL3 | except for my damn trinket at the end of stonecore |
| 11:09.08 | selckin | yeah, if you're tank, you don' tneed cc with that gear |
| 11:09.09 | RaydenUni | i haven't played all that much |
| 11:09.26 | KriLL3 | selckin: depends in part on the healer |
| 11:09.39 | selckin | if he can press buttons its fine |
| 11:09.47 | KriLL3 | some healers can heal all of us all day np others run oom halfway into every fight |
| 11:09.49 | selckin | he may have to drink after every pack but i gladly wait on that :) |
| 11:10.37 | selckin | i've had 333/green healers that did fine in grim batol with no cc |
| 11:11.06 | KriLL3 | for some reason healers are either awesome or horrible, haven't had any mediums |
| 11:11.27 | selckin | i also get grim batol like every single time, its annoying |
| 11:11.55 | KriLL3 | I get lost city |
| 11:12.34 | KriLL3 | grim batol is ok if your team is good on drakes |
| 11:12.39 | KriLL3 | if they're bad it's horrible |
| 11:12.54 | selckin | grim is one of the few instances where the bosses are harder then the trash |
| 11:13.18 | KriLL3 | second and third bosses are easy |
| 11:13.23 | KriLL3 | but yeah first and last are a bit annoying |
| 11:13.37 | selckin | first/3rd/last ppl fail insanely on |
| 11:13.38 | KriLL3 | especially if your DPS doesn't know how to do it |
| 11:13.49 | KriLL3 | third isn't that hard |
| 11:13.53 | KriLL3 | run from elementals |
| 11:13.55 | KriLL3 | kill elementals |
| 11:14.00 | selckin | it's not, but puggers still fail at it alot |
| 11:14.03 | KriLL3 | don't stand in front of drake or in patches |
| 11:14.07 | KriLL3 | yeah true |
| 11:14.14 | KriLL3 | not as much as last/first though |
| 11:14.21 | selckin | last dps check if a bit fail too |
| 11:14.34 | KriLL3 | last is a nightmare literally if dps doesn't know how to play, had tons of dps that only attack ads after they stop to channel |
| 11:14.52 | KriLL3 | after shadow gale run to door and kill on sight idiots |
| 11:15.12 | selckin | slows++ |
| 11:15.12 | KriLL3 | doesn't matter how many times I've told them that they still dps boss after gale and might switch to ads after |
| 11:15.15 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 11:15.22 | RaydenUni | deadmines takes FOREVER |
| 11:15.28 | selckin | nah it's fast |
| 11:15.33 | selckin | use more canons! |
| 11:15.38 | KriLL3 | slows are only useful though if they're not already at eggs when they attack them |
| 11:16.02 | KriLL3 | even with cannons it's a long instance, and that idiotic spinning sparks part is horrible |
| 11:17.25 | selckin | man i love those |
| 11:17.31 | selckin | best instance ever |
| 11:17.42 | RaydenUni | ? |
| 11:17.48 | selckin | tanking inside double ragezones <3 |
| 11:17.57 | KriLL3 | and it's damn cramped |
| 11:18.05 | KriLL3 | those caves are hard to see in |
| 11:18.18 | selckin | only if you turn projected textures off (nub!) |
| 11:18.37 | Dingo- | Bleh, noone knows abit how to configure icehud? :D |
| 11:18.51 | RaydenUni | are there multiple pattern vendors in highlands? |
| 11:18.55 | selckin | open config, click things |
| 11:19.02 | selckin | RaydenUni: for every profession 1 |
| 11:19.08 | RaydenUni | no for each profession |
| 11:19.12 | RaydenUni | i found the leather guy |
| 11:19.16 | RaydenUni | he only has like 8 things |
| 11:19.20 | RaydenUni | and none of them are agi leather |
| 11:19.26 | KriLL3 | what? |
| 11:19.27 | selckin | wrong guy |
| 11:19.28 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 11:19.31 | KriLL3 | leather guy has tons of stuff |
| 11:19.32 | selckin | he's under a tent in the middle |
| 11:19.35 | RaydenUni | my mod is restricing it to usable |
| 11:19.42 | RaydenUni | now they all show up |
| 11:19.44 | selckin | the items are wrong btw, most are 525 that are markeed like 425 |
| 11:19.48 | selckin | before you go broke |
| 11:20.03 | RaydenUni | in game or on wowhead? |
| 11:20.08 | selckin | game |
| 11:20.17 | RaydenUni | they are all 500+ to me |
| 11:20.19 | selckin | if you try to learn them i t'll go item does not exist |
| 11:20.28 | RaydenUni | oh i see |
| 11:20.29 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 11:20.30 | RaydenUni | these ones i can use |
| 11:20.32 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 11:20.50 | KriLL3 | pvp and purple chest and best |
| 11:20.55 | KriLL3 | only real ones |
| 11:21.03 | KriLL3 | *belt |
| 11:21.11 | RaydenUni | what? |
| 11:21.35 | RaydenUni | gross |
| 11:21.42 | RaydenUni | getting from 500 to 510 looks gross |
| 11:22.36 | RaydenUni | grandma got ganked playing world of warcraft |
| 11:22.37 | RaydenUni | lulz |
| 11:24.13 | selckin | about 1.2k per point |
| 11:24.25 | selckin | on my realm |
| 11:24.35 | selckin | i gave up :/ |
| 11:24.52 | RaydenUni | in gold? |
| 11:25.04 | selckin | yeah |
| 11:25.05 | RaydenUni | just going to farm more leather |
| 11:25.36 | selckin | you need like stupid dragon leather to get to 510 i think |
| 11:27.51 | RaydenUni | the better kind? |
| 11:27.54 | RaydenUni | i needed it already |
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| 11:28.06 | cremetorte | Hey guys, i need help of a mothertongue speaking english guy. I developed an addon which helps with random groups by explaining the boss when you click on hin ( the brief version of what it does ) But my english localization really sucks. It wood take half an hour when someone could go the text with me through so i can change the bad english into good english... |
| 11:28.17 | RaydenUni | 5 leather to make heavy |
| 11:28.29 | RaydenUni | 5 of those to make a yellow item |
| 11:28.37 | RaydenUni | so 25 for a chance to get a skill up |
| 11:28.50 | selckin | you're below 505 at least then |
| 11:29.06 | selckin | or found some pattern i don't know off |
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| 11:30.38 | jnwhiteh | cremetorte: how much text is it? |
| 11:30.40 | RaydenUni | 502 |
| 11:31.17 | RaydenUni | which pattern were you using? |
| 11:31.41 | cremetorte | Two or Three Paragraphs for every heroic boss in cataclysm ;) its already written but maybe completly wrong. someone told me my english would really suck so i think there is much wrong text ( grammar and stuff ) |
| 11:31.50 | selckin | i only have a 60(?) dragon leather one, and something that need alot of volatile and other stuff |
| 11:31.55 | selckin | don't remember the names |
| 11:32.40 | RaydenUni | wthe cloaks? |
| 11:32.45 | RaydenUni | 2 of each volatine |
| 11:32.58 | RaydenUni | and they sell for shit |
| 11:33.01 | RaydenUni | since everyone is making them |
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| 11:35.41 | RaydenUni | holy crap the misc tab on my bags is filled with bloated stomachs |
| 11:36.00 | jnwhiteh | cremetorte: trying to help find you someone |
| 11:37.14 | cremetorte | thanks i try to find someone too |
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| 12:10.02 | Repo | 10libcompress: 03galmok * r49 LibCompress.toc: Update: toc file updated to match current game version. |
| 12:10.30 | Repo | 10gridstatustankcooldown: 03slaren * r26 / (4 files in 1 directory): - Reworked configuration UI |
| 12:10.41 | Repo | - Added Power Word: Barrier |
| 12:10.42 | Repo | - Removed T10 bonus spells |
| 12:12.18 | Repo | 10libcompress: 03galmok 04r49-release * r50 : Tagging as r49-release |
| 12:13.51 | Dingo- | Is it possible to make msbt to float in other ways then raining down? :P |
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| 12:46.14 | Dingo- | Any tip where I can find help with some small iceHUD help? Any help-forum or something? Havent manage to find one yet. |
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| 12:55.20 | mitch0 | try to catch parnic here |
| 12:55.43 | mitch0 | ~last parnic |
| 12:55.49 | mitch0 | ~seen parnic |
| 12:55.55 | purl | parnic is currently on #wowuidev #wowace #curseforge. Has said a total of 300 messages. Is idling for 4h 14m, last said: 'STAND BACK! I'M DOING SCIENCE!'. |
| 12:56.16 | Dingo- | okok |
| 12:58.03 | Dingo- | AIght |
| 12:58.34 | Dingo- | anyway, possible to make font smaller in x perl? The names in partymode etc |
| 13:06.09 | mitch0 | xperl? weren't you talking about icehud before? :) |
| 13:06.22 | mckenziemc | yes and he's talking about xperl now ;) |
| 13:07.05 | Dingo- | Ye I want that health help with iceHUD and xperl font size :D |
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| 13:10.51 | sylvanaar_work | morning |
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| 13:14.35 | mitch0 | sylvanaar: I gave 50% of the rewards for Broker_WhoLib to you. have you noticed? :)) |
| 13:15.32 | mckenziemc | not enough. |
| 13:15.57 | mckenziemc | :5 |
| 13:16.02 | mckenziemc | :p * |
| 13:17.33 | sylvanaar_work | mitch0: :) |
| 13:18.03 | sylvanaar_work | i might be the only user |
| 13:18.12 | mitch0 | well, then you cheat |
| 13:18.23 | mitch0 | as it has over 100 downloads |
| 13:18.27 | sylvanaar_work | really? |
| 13:18.29 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 13:18.34 | sylvanaar_work | thats cool |
| 13:18.35 | mckenziemc | i use it! |
| 13:18.37 | mitch0 | lemme check |
| 13:18.55 | mitch0 | 348 downloads total |
| 13:18.59 | sylvanaar_work | its very useful if you use wholib |
| 13:19.19 | selckin | what does it do |
| 13:19.23 | mitch0 | lol: "Help build our recommendations by rating your favorite {0} today!" |
| 13:19.31 | sylvanaar_work | shows you what wholib is doing |
| 13:19.39 | mitch0 | what's your favorite {0} sylvannar? |
| 13:19.41 | mckenziemc | oh reading fail. i thought we were referring to wholib itself >.> |
| 13:19.47 | mckenziemc | though i'm going to check it out |
| 13:20.03 | mckenziemc | @project broker_wholib |
| 13:20.05 | Repo | mckenziemc: http://www.wowace.com/addons/broker_wholib/. Broker_WhoLib. Game: WoW. mitch0 (Manager/Author), sylvanaar (Author). Updated: 20 days ago |
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| 13:21.42 | mitch0 | on a side-note, the semi-broken fubar has still 15 times more downloads than bazooka :( |
| 13:21.54 | mitch0 | s/badgrammar/goodgrammar/ |
| 13:22.00 | selckin | ppl stick to what they know |
| 13:22.07 | selckin | and fubar was awesome in it's day |
| 13:22.18 | mckenziemc | fubar fubar is fubar |
| 13:22.48 | sylvanaar_work | i use bazooka now myself |
| 13:23.10 | mitch0 | and you're a happier persion since then, right? :) |
| 13:23.13 | selckin | rename it fubarbroker or something and get rich |
| 13:23.16 | mckenziemc | hehe |
| 13:23.21 | sylvanaar_work | fubar2 |
| 13:23.54 | sylvanaar_work | noone has take that name yet |
| 13:23.57 | sylvanaar_work | or 3 |
| 13:24.06 | sylvanaar_work | or 4 whatever is next |
| 13:25.06 | mckenziemc | fisker |
| 13:25.10 | mckenziemc | i need your help |
| 13:25.13 | mckenziemc | i need a target again |
| 13:27.28 | mckenziemc | please fisker |
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| 13:28.59 | Repo | 10gridstatustankcooldown: 03slaren 04v1.5 * r28 : Tagging as v1.5 |
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| 13:40.31 | kagaro|work | well the web IRc client is too horrible |
| 13:41.28 | mitch0 | use a real one then? |
| 13:41.37 | sylvanaar_work | ^ |
| 13:41.39 | kagaro|work | mitch0: im stuck using teh freenode web client from work routed over 2 proxies |
| 13:41.46 | sylvanaar_work | yuck |
| 13:41.51 | arkanes | I do the same thing, it's sad |
| 13:41.53 | mitch0 | learn2tunnel |
| 13:42.05 | arkanes | I don't know what the whole feud was with mibbit, but it's a hassle for me :( |
| 13:42.07 | kagaro|work | ya they close every outbound port so i have to realy over a junipter web session |
| 13:42.23 | sylvanaar_work | cant you logmein to your home pc |
| 13:42.27 | mitch0 | I bet they don't close 443 |
| 13:42.36 | kagaro|work | mitch0 they do |
| 13:42.41 | mitch0 | wtf? |
| 13:42.43 | kagaro|work | its a lotus shop |
| 13:42.51 | arkanes | they probably don't close 443, but that doesn't mean that you can just ssh out on it |
| 13:42.56 | mitch0 | you saying you can't visit https sites? |
| 13:43.11 | kagaro|work | i tried tunneling out over port 80 deep packet inspection kills the session |
| 13:43.12 | arkanes | if its set up like my place, you've got outgoing traffic on 443 and 80 but both those are routed through a web proxy with CONNECT |
| 13:43.13 | mitch0 | arkanes: well, it's kinda hard to filter https traffic |
| 13:43.18 | arkanes | mitch0: no it isn't |
| 13:43.29 | arkanes | mitch0: it just takes stateful packet inspection |
| 13:43.39 | kagaro|work | every web request fires out a transparent proxy |
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| 13:44.02 | mitch0 | same here, but they don't do mitm... |
| 13:44.12 | arkanes | there's no mitm |
| 13:44.21 | mitch0 | how do you decrypt the https traffic then? |
| 13:44.36 | mitch0 | how would you _khow_ it has a CONNECT in it? |
| 13:44.40 | mitch0 | know even |
| 13:44.46 | kagaro|work | its easy when it make the ssl session end on the proxy which then make a second request for you |
| 13:44.47 | arkanes | they're routing requests correctly, and they don't interfere with them, but you won't get a connection unless you're going through the web proxy which means you need to be doing an SSL handshake |
| 13:45.25 | mitch0 | I'm going thru a web proxy |
| 13:45.33 | arkanes | thats the mitm request that mitch0 is talking about |
| 13:45.34 | mitch0 | I have sshd listening on 443 |
| 13:45.50 | mitch0 | and I have connect.c locally |
| 13:46.00 | kagaro|work | mitch0 assumes i have admin rights to install on my work machine |
| 13:46.03 | mitch0 | without mitm they can't filter that |
| 13:46.16 | arkanes | yes they can |
| 13:46.21 | mitch0 | no they can't |
| 13:46.24 | arkanes | ssl handshakes are not hard to detect |
| 13:46.25 | kagaro|work | or that i can even use the usb drive |
| 13:46.44 | arkanes | you can't just route any traffic you want over 443 and expect to get out through a security layer that doesn't want you to |
| 13:46.56 | kagaro|work | arkanes: correct |
| 13:47.00 | mitch0 | you can route out ssl on 443 though |
| 13:47.07 | arkanes | if you can, then clearly your network admins don't have the desire to stop you |
| 13:47.08 | arkanes | sure |
| 13:47.09 | mitch0 | and that's what I'm talking about |
| 13:47.14 | arkanes | but ssh tunneling isnt' the same as ssl |
| 13:47.15 | mitch0 | ssh over https |
| 13:47.24 | arkanes | yes, you can tunnel over https |
| 13:47.30 | mitch0 | arkanes: google for connect.c |
| 13:47.39 | kagaro|work | mitch0 if they use a bigger more expensive box with deep packet inspection its easy to detect and kill |
| 13:47.56 | arkanes | yeah thats sshs SOCKS mode |
| 13:48.01 | mitch0 | well, only based on "suspicious traffic" |
| 13:48.07 | arkanes | thats not the same as ssh tunneling :P |
| 13:48.13 | mitch0 | as in, connection stays up for a long time, bidirectional traffic, etc |
| 13:48.28 | mitch0 | arkanes: I tunnel irc via ssh which is tunneled over https |
| 13:48.46 | kagaro|work | it a per site location and how diligent the admins are |
| 13:49.09 | arkanes | it won't work if they do a mitm of course |
| 13:49.16 | arkanes | and it won't work if your proxy isn't SOCKS |
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| 13:49.39 | mitch0 | yes, but then you would see big scary popups whenever you tried to use a https site :) |
| 13:49.42 | arkanes | I wonder if anyone has implemented this for proxy stuff that isn't stuck in the 80s :P |
| 13:49.45 | mitch0 | and then I'd /quit pretty soonish |
| 13:49.47 | arkanes | mitch0: nah |
| 13:50.10 | arkanes | mitch0: mitm is totally undetectable if its performed by someone who has the ability to install root certs on your box |
| 13:50.11 | kagaro|work | i should email myself my ajava relay code i wrote for my last job it encoded data on http without any socks/protocols that are well known |
| 13:50.26 | arkanes | mitch0: which is the case with someone in kagaro's position |
| 13:50.40 | mitch0 | arkanes: I'd /quit from there obviously ;) |
| 13:50.40 | arkanes | mitch0: well, not totally undetectable, but it won't flag an alert |
| 13:50.54 | kagaro|work | ya arkanes they totaly own the machine im using .. im a contractor here |
| 13:51.12 | arkanes | I've got admin access to my box, but I also have a corporate root cert installed because we self-sign a bunch of our internal https stuff |
| 13:51.18 | kagaro|work | arkanes: I have its just not public |
| 13:51.33 | arkanes | so in theory the same could happen to me unless I check all my ssl connections |
| 13:52.02 | mitch0 | they'd have to generate a new ssl key on the fly for every (new) site visited |
| 13:52.11 | kagaro|work | arkanes: ill send you a PM tonight |
| 13:52.35 | arkanes | mitch0: yep |
| 13:52.38 | arkanes | mitch0: not that hard |
| 13:53.04 | kagaro|work | I was going todo a presentation at blackhat last year about the proxy/relay code i worked on at my last job, but the company went bellyup befor eI could go |
| 13:53.23 | arkanes | I could write one if I were sufficiently inclined |
| 13:53.38 | kagaro|work | go go http exploit to bypass deep level proxies |
| 13:53.56 | arkanes | but setting up a server to shell into, writing NTLM proxy auth code (again!) and setting up tunneling is more work than I want to do for irc, even if the web client is irritating |
| 13:54.27 | mitch0 | arkanes: why would you write ntlm auth code? there are several implementations out there ;) |
| 13:54.29 | arkanes | I used anyterm for a while |
| 13:54.36 | arkanes | mitch0: there's only 2 that are any good |
| 13:54.38 | kagaro|work | my solution required a proxy out on the net somewhere and a local peice of code to listen to an arbirtray port |
| 13:54.56 | kagaro|work | and i could relay anything over it |
| 13:54.58 | arkanes | kagaro|work: exploiting open proxies to reverse CONNECT? |
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| 13:55.19 | kagaro|work | screw connect it didnt use open proxies |
| 13:55.38 | kagaro|work | any proxy in the world will pass the traffic |
| 13:55.45 | kagaro|work | and be none the wiser |
| 13:56.00 | arkanes | well that is what proxies do :P |
| 13:56.11 | arkanes | by "open" I mean "non-authenticating" |
| 13:56.19 | kagaro|work | depends on how you setup the proxy |
| 13:56.33 | kagaro|work | i had a port knocking method of authenticatingf |
| 13:57.26 | kagaro|work | *any |
| 13:57.28 | kagaro|work | but I was able to proxy an TCP data (IP or UDP) over it |
| 13:57.37 | kagaro|work | but that was a work requirement |
| 13:59.50 | kagaro|work | for right now i can proxy over my junipter session so it works for now |
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| 14:05.25 | Fisker | abcefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz |
| 14:08.11 | mitch0 | no |
| 14:08.24 | mitch0 | you failed |
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| 14:08.28 | kagaro|work | sup Fisker |
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| 14:11.26 | mitch0 | he's away searching for the letter d |
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| 14:12.16 | mckenziemc | qwertyuiop |
| 14:12.31 | Funkeh` | cat attack |
| 14:12.42 | mckenziemc | sad thing is i typed that in Dvorak : / |
| 14:14.59 | Repo | 10ouf_adirelle: 03Adirelle 07master * 1.6-beta-3-6-gedef265 / (3 files in 3 directories): [+4 commits] |
| 14:15.00 | Repo | edef265: Fixed the cooldown display of crowd control debuffs. |
| 14:15.01 | Repo | 6a36b3b: Raid frames: extended Lifebloom and Renew blinking threshold to 4 seconds. |
| 14:15.02 | Repo | b3ab839: AuraIcons: allow icons to have specific blinking threshold. |
| 14:15.03 | Repo | 483b3ca: Added player crowd controls as debuffs to show over unit portraits. |
| 14:20.47 | Fisker | cats don't do qwerty :( |
| 14:21.14 | KriLL3 | also Fisker you forgot 3 letters |
| 14:21.16 | KriLL3 | åäö |
| 14:22.13 | KriLL3 | might be somewhat hard to find on your keyboard though, some of them aren't designed properly |
| 14:22.53 | Fisker | no KriLL3 |
| 14:22.55 | Fisker | æøå |
| 14:23.13 | KriLL3 | no no those are bastardized versions |
| 14:23.23 | Fisker | those are the real awesome versions |
| 14:23.36 | Fisker | like german double-s is awesome |
| 14:24.05 | arkanes | don't be a nazi, fisker |
| 14:24.08 | KriLL3 | well the army unit wasn't |
| 14:24.35 | Fisker | nah that was SS |
| 14:24.38 | Fisker | like USB3.0 |
| 14:24.49 | Fisker | usb 3.0 are nazis |
| 14:24.54 | KriLL3 | ... right |
| 14:25.04 | arkanes | that makes firewire the french resistance? |
| 14:25.10 | Fisker | how so? |
| 14:25.20 | arkanes | viva le resistance! |
| 14:25.21 | KriLL3 | Fisker: major failure |
| 14:26.17 | Fisker | Until such a time a Firewire related technology matches the abbreviation of a french well-known resistance group i will never fail KriLL3 |
| 14:26.50 | KriLL3 | firewire is only used by a small niche group |
| 14:27.03 | KriLL3 | they wanted it to be like USB is today, for everything |
| 14:27.24 | KriLL3 | hence it's a failure, add in USB3 which is even faster than firewire... it's days are numbered |
| 14:28.25 | Fisker | it is days are numbers? |
| 14:33.54 | kagaro|work | *waiting to see the light peak stuff* |
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| 14:35.36 | Fisker | what is there left to see kagaro ? |
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| 14:36.12 | kagaro|work | someone start making devices with it |
| 14:36.32 | nevcairiel | usb 4.0, now with more light |
| 14:37.07 | sbu | *sigh* |
| 14:37.11 | sbu | shopping spree is going to be expensive |
| 14:37.26 | Fisker | i farted sbu |
| 14:37.29 | Fisker | btw lol'd nevcairiel |
| 14:37.34 | kagaro|work | 10 Gbps interconnects |
| 14:37.48 | Fisker | they pulled a bit back on that maximus iv pricing here |
| 14:37.55 | Fisker | so now it's like 50€ cheaper |
| 14:38.01 | Fisker | but still lol'd :( |
| 14:38.08 | Fisker | well actually more like 40€ :< |
| 14:38.36 | Kalroth | haaa, a friend of mine got his new computer today; a i7-980X! |
| 14:38.37 | sbu | gtx460, p8p67 pro, 2600K, 8gb ddr3 1333, ocz v2 80gb - 900 eur :| assuming 300 eur for cpu (maybe its -30 eur or something like that) |
| 14:38.39 | nevcairiel | still over 300 |
| 14:39.15 | nevcairiel | thats still more then the cpu :p |
| 14:39.19 | Fisker | 319€ for the unlocked probably |
| 14:39.19 | nevcairiel | silly asus |
| 14:39.26 | Fisker | and 299€ for the locked |
| 14:39.29 | sbu | no |
| 14:39.39 | sbu | well you can get the 2600K for 309 eur |
| 14:39.40 | Kalroth | $ |
| 14:39.42 | sbu | is what i know :P |
| 14:39.45 | Fisker | lol'd Kalroth |
| 14:39.57 | Fisker | what memory did you get again nevcairiel? |
| 14:39.57 | Kalroth | $317 for i7-2600K, at 1000 |
| 14:40.03 | Fisker | also get ddr3 1600 or better sbu |
| 14:40.12 | sbu | no Fisker |
| 14:40.16 | Fisker | yes sbu |
| 14:40.16 | Kalroth | Fisker: I did too |
| 14:40.17 | sbu | doesnt matter |
| 14:40.25 | Fisker | your mom had sex with a goat doesn't matter |
| 14:40.56 | Fisker | is victorious |
| 14:40.59 | sbu | :| |
| 14:41.06 | Fisker | :< |
| 14:41.11 | Fisker | i'm a jersk |
| 14:41.25 | Kalroth | why so jerk |
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| 14:42.01 | Fisker | ddr4 :( |
| 14:43.00 | nevcairiel | i got g.skill ripjaws 2x4gb packs, 1600-cl9, some test claims they run smooth up to 7-8-7-15 @ 1600 |
| 14:43.24 | Fisker | can't even get g.skill here :( |
| 14:44.16 | Fisker | i'm looking at some Corsair XMS3 |
| 14:44.51 | Fisker | since those are the only 4GB DIMM's i can find without huge handles on the top |
| 14:44.52 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 14:45.04 | nevcairiel | yeah some really have those huuge coolers |
| 14:45.53 | Fisker | i'm hoping i don't have to use the stock cooler because of the one i got now |
| 14:45.55 | sylvanaar_work | dont those corsairs have big red heatsinks and a fan? |
| 14:45.56 | Fisker | it's hueg |
| 14:46.09 | Fisker | they probably could have |
| 14:46.22 | Fisker | the others were Corsair Vengeance |
| 14:46.24 | nevcairiel | is the one they show in reviews the new stock fan? it looks quite capable |
| 14:46.33 | sbu | nevcairiel: $$? |
| 14:46.41 | nevcairiel | sylvanaar_work: thats corsair dominator, not xms |
| 14:46.43 | sylvanaar_work | i guess im thinking of another model |
| 14:46.44 | sylvanaar_work | yeah |
| 14:47.06 | nevcairiel | http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/cpu/intel/sandybridge/review/_DSC7051.jpg |
| 14:47.09 | nevcairiel | is that a stock fan? :P |
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| 14:47.14 | Fisker | don't those fans just basically clip on any set of memory anyway? |
| 14:47.23 | nevcairiel | probably |
| 14:47.27 | Fisker | Think it depends on the one you get |
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| 14:47.40 | sylvanaar_work | i have those dominator sticks and i never could get 6 sticks stable, i had to return 3 |
| 14:47.44 | Fisker | Apparently the i5-2500k is the fuck as small heatsink on the other page |
| 14:47.45 | nevcairiel | They claimed you can get 4.3ghz overclock with that one |
| 14:47.45 | sbu | nevcairiel: http://www.alternate.de/html/solrSearch/toArticle.html?articleId=140051&query=ripjaws+1600&referer=highlight&link=solr%2Fsearch%2Fresult.productDetails |
| 14:47.49 | sbu | that one? |
| 14:47.59 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 14:48.01 | sbu | thats fine, i will also get 1600 then :p |
| 14:48.02 | Fisker | they calimed a 4.4GHz overclock with the small as fuck one |
| 14:48.23 | nevcairiel | thats the stock that came with the old i5/i7 |
| 14:48.28 | Fisker | no |
| 14:48.31 | nevcairiel | i still have one around |
| 14:48.42 | Fisker | they're bigger |
| 14:49.14 | Fisker | http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/cpu/intel/sandybridge/review/_DSC7079.jpg <-don't ever tell me you've had an intel box cooler after the P2 that's been smaller than this |
| 14:49.33 | nevcairiel | i dont think the box i7 cooler was much bigger |
| 14:49.35 | nevcairiel | digs it up |
| 14:49.43 | Fisker | atleast 3 times as high |
| 14:49.44 | sbu | nevcairiel: did you already get your CPU? |
| 14:49.49 | Fisker | i can pretty much guarantee that |
| 14:50.03 | sylvanaar_work | wow thats small |
| 14:50.24 | Fisker | only twice actually |
| 14:50.26 | sylvanaar_work | its 2x the height of those caps next to it |
| 14:52.15 | Fisker | http://img9.imageshack.us/i/p1010079l.jpg/ <-that's the best shot i can get |
| 14:52.23 | Fisker | heatsink is atleast twice as big |
| 14:52.45 | nevcairiel | i took a pic of mine, sec |
| 14:52.57 | Fisker | wait, you keep yours? |
| 14:53.11 | Fisker | starts a chainsaw |
| 14:53.12 | nevcairiel | i throw that stuff in some box |
| 14:53.22 | sbu | i know those boxes *sigh* |
| 14:53.24 | nevcairiel | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/aeafe7e7fa4f6ce67f486e3e041f41cf.jpg |
| 14:53.26 | Fisker | as do i nevcairiel |
| 14:53.32 | Fisker | then it gets thrown in the trash |
| 14:53.32 | nevcairiel | i put some of my new ram next to it |
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| 14:53.35 | sbu | 5 years hardware.. and at some point you throw them away |
| 14:53.37 | nevcairiel | for reference |
| 14:53.41 | Fisker | weird |
| 14:53.51 | Fisker | guess they started changing them after launch then |
| 14:54.08 | nevcairiel | i got a 1156 model, fwiw |
| 14:54.28 | Fisker | oh |
| 14:54.33 | Fisker | i was talking about the x58 ones |
| 14:54.50 | Fisker | does look a bit like the fan on the sandy bridge is a tad lower though |
| 14:55.03 | nevcairiel | this one is standing on its push-pins, which go into the board :P |
| 14:55.34 | nevcairiel | latest nvidia driver fixed dx11 with wow for me \o/ |
| 14:55.50 | Fisker | mine was never broke |
| 14:56.06 | nevcairiel | didnt really work well with the 5xx cards on the previous driver |
| 14:56.19 | Fisker | maybe i should get one? |
| 14:56.25 | sbu | *sigh* |
| 14:56.29 | sbu | not sure if i should get one |
| 14:56.59 | sbu | i'm running gtx260 at the moment, is it worth switching to 460? |
| 14:57.12 | Fisker | i wonder when our hardware stores starts getting the memo |
| 14:57.15 | mitch0 | <sales>sure!</sales> |
| 14:57.33 | Fisker | i want to buy my sandy bridge now |
| 14:57.36 | nevcairiel | i switched from 260 to 460 a few month ago, that was worth it. But i found a friend that payed my like 75% of the price for it, so i upgraded again :P |
| 14:57.57 | sbu | dont want to pay 400-500 eur for 580 that is :p |
| 14:58.06 | nevcairiel | i got a 570 |
| 14:58.14 | nevcairiel | its as fast as the 480 |
| 14:58.36 | nevcairiel | just cheaper and more efficient :) |
| 14:58.38 | kagaro|work | getting close to that time to upgrade my mac .. should I do a dual 6 cores .. i wonder |
| 14:58.51 | sbu | nevcairiel: mh, 350 eur! |
| 14:59.01 | nevcairiel | 6 cores sounds like amd, which is never a good idea |
| 14:59.19 | kagaro|work | its intel |
| 14:59.23 | nevcairiel | or a very expensive intel idea :P |
| 14:59.29 | nevcairiel | which isnt very good either |
| 14:59.31 | ramoz | Xeon *chough* |
| 14:59.36 | Fisker | man this store is cheap |
| 14:59.52 | Fisker | i can get a free Starcraft 2 trial with the purchase of select nvidia graphics cards |
| 14:59.53 | kagaro|work | ya its Xeon chips |
| 14:59.56 | Fisker | But only with ONE CARD |
| 15:00.02 | nevcairiel | if you really need that many cores, wait for sandy bridge xeons |
| 15:00.04 | Fisker | so if i buy two i won't get 2 trials :( |
| 15:00.17 | Fisker | ivy bridge-e pl0x |
| 15:00.18 | kagaro|work | ive got dual quad cores right now |
| 15:00.23 | Fisker | with ddr4 |
| 15:00.41 | kagaro|work | granted i slaves off 1 cpu and its 4 cores for vmware |
| 15:00.43 | nevcairiel | I mean, a quad-core 2600k outperforms a 980X, unless the application is really absolutely high on threading |
| 15:00.54 | sylvanaar_work | you think its worth replacing my 920 with a 950? |
| 15:00.57 | Fisker | fuck you to hell gomtv |
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| 15:01.27 | steev | fisker it |
| 15:01.31 | Fisker | naw sylvanaar |
| 15:01.31 | nevcairiel | I wouldnt buy any gen1 i7s anymore |
| 15:01.35 | Fisker | might as well go sandy bridge |
| 15:01.51 | sylvanaar_work | that means pretty much whole new pc |
| 15:01.58 | sbu | board, cpu, ram *shrug* |
| 15:01.59 | nevcairiel | just mobo and cpu |
| 15:02.04 | sylvanaar_work | and ram |
| 15:02.08 | nevcairiel | ram is still basically the same from the x58 |
| 15:02.17 | sbu | so x58 is already ddr3? |
| 15:02.18 | nevcairiel | unless you have only 3 modules |
| 15:02.21 | Fisker | duh sbu |
| 15:02.28 | Fisker | well you could run 2 modules but y eah |
| 15:02.31 | Fisker | yeah* |
| 15:02.31 | sylvanaar_work | i have 3 modules |
| 15:02.35 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 15:02.35 | nevcairiel | but seriously, ram is way cheap |
| 15:02.35 | sbu | i skipped that gen. :p |
| 15:02.36 | Fisker | you suck |
| 15:02.41 | Fisker | you're a bad person sylvanaar |
| 15:02.53 | sylvanaar_work | triple channel what can i say |
| 15:03.00 | nevcairiel | go 6! |
| 15:03.02 | Fisker | yes |
| 15:03.04 | kadrahil | triple rainbow man! |
| 15:03.07 | sylvanaar_work | 6 has higher latency |
| 15:03.08 | kadrahil | it's almost a triple rainbow! |
| 15:03.10 | jnwhiteh | Slashdot even says so! |
| 15:03.20 | Fisker | your mom has higher latency sylvanaar_work |
| 15:03.24 | nevcairiel | anyway, you can of course run with 2 of those modules, or just buy 2 to complement that set |
| 15:03.28 | nevcairiel | which is barely any money |
| 15:03.33 | jnwhiteh | @slashdot Oversupply Sends DRAM Prices To One-year Low http://bit.ly/i7VSSe |
| 15:03.46 | kadrahil | i haven't read slashdot since 2002 |
| 15:04.01 | arkanes | wow |
| 15:04.12 | nevcairiel | or do as me, and buy 16gb of brand new ram goodness! |
| 15:04.19 | arkanes | front page stories on slashdot all have ~100 or less comments |
| 15:04.21 | nevcairiel | get it while its cheap |
| 15:04.22 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 15:04.27 | sylvanaar_work | thats a lot of ram |
| 15:05.12 | kadrahil | that's a lot of wham |
| 15:05.16 | sylvanaar_work | you have ssd's? |
| 15:05.21 | nevcairiel | one |
| 15:05.25 | arkanes | wow wont use more than 3, though |
| 15:05.32 | arkanes | s/3/2/ |
| 15:05.46 | nevcairiel | you can actually get it to use up to 4, in theory, but i have never seen it do it |
| 15:05.55 | sylvanaar_work | you can run 5-6x wow |
| 15:05.56 | nevcairiel | mine doesnt even go beyond 1.4 |
| 15:06.33 | arkanes | I'm actually surprised it even goes to 1.4, since the rest of that would be mapped but unused address space |
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| 15:07.20 | arkanes | anyway, people hack on the large address aware bit but that doesn't actually do much unless blizzard were to update all their allocators and so on |
| 15:07.42 | nevcairiel | those are probably capable of addressing more |
| 15:07.50 | sylvanaar_work | i want SSD raid 0 |
| 15:07.52 | nevcairiel | for some people it apparently crashed when reaching the 2gb treshhold |
| 15:08.04 | nevcairiel | i still wonder wtf they do, since i have never even been near it |
| 15:08.17 | nevcairiel | anyway, setting the flag stops the crash and it uses more then 2gb |
| 15:08.21 | selckin | run 30 copies of auctioneer |
| 15:08.26 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 15:08.36 | arkanes | sure but thats not likely to be a reliable fix |
| 15:08.50 | arkanes | it's crashing because malloc() is returning 0, since you're out of addressable memory |
| 15:09.24 | nevcairiel | 32-bit addresses can actually access more then 2gb, you know |
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| 15:09.29 | arkanes | right! |
| 15:09.32 | nevcairiel | its a silly OS limitation |
| 15:09.39 | nevcairiel | from the good ol' days |
| 15:09.52 | kadrahil | you're a silly OS limitation nevcairiel |
| 15:09.57 | arkanes | you used to be able to change it to 3 in the OS |
| 15:10.01 | Slayman | nevcairiel: gimme teh flag plz |
| 15:10.04 | arkanes | but anyway |
| 15:10.07 | Fisker | you still are |
| 15:10.12 | Fisker | atleast in windows xpee |
| 15:10.22 | kadrahil | windows xp extreme edition |
| 15:10.23 | arkanes | I wouldn't be surprised if wow was using tagged pointers and so on for stuff, it's a really common technique |
| 15:10.46 | arkanes | so extending the range of valid pointers is risky |
| 15:11.07 | nevcairiel | Some blue said that it could be a valid fix, and they wont ban anyone for modifying the binary to allow it |
| 15:11.18 | nevcairiel | which kinda means to me that some dev said its ok, and it wont crash and burn |
| 15:11.18 | arkanes | that sounds reasonable of them |
| 15:11.30 | selckin | which means you'll get banned by accident real soon now |
| 15:11.44 | arkanes | I bet the conversation went like "yeah, it's probably okay but we need to do a burnin to test it for sure" |
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| 15:11.52 | Fisker | the only people who deserves to get banned by accident are linux users |
| 15:11.56 | arkanes | I mean, and since they apparently were crashing *anyway* |
| 15:12.02 | *** part/#wowace WonTu (~WonTu@p57B56C49.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:12.05 | nevcairiel | it would've crashed anyway when reaching the 2gb limit |
| 15:12.08 | nevcairiel | so, shrug :) |
| 15:12.25 | kadrahil | i hate you now Fisker |
| 15:12.37 | Fisker | why would you hate me kadrahil ? |
| 15:12.42 | nevcairiel | they also said they wont be doing a 64bit version |
| 15:12.45 | kadrahil | because you suggested that linux users should get banned |
| 15:12.50 | *** part/#wowace oscarucb (~oscarucb@d60-65-254-150.col.wideopenwest.com) |
| 15:12.55 | kadrahil | and i am a linux user |
| 15:12.57 | Fisker | i didn't :( |
| 15:13.01 | kadrahil | at work, at least |
| 15:13.07 | arkanes | 64 bit version is probably because of all the mpq stuff |
| 15:13.18 | kadrahil | ok i take that back fisker |
| 15:13.28 | selckin | it's a sure way to up the memory usage tho |
| 15:13.28 | Fisker | thanks |
| 15:13.30 | selckin | =) |
| 15:13.34 | arkanes | I can't *honestly* imagine it'd be that hard to make the change, but they probably just don't care |
| 15:13.46 | arkanes | is SC2 64 bit? |
| 15:13.47 | Fisker | i wonder if they'll make their next mmo 64-bit |
| 15:13.50 | Fisker | naw arkanes |
| 15:13.56 | arkanes | thats pretty bad |
| 15:14.08 | nevcairiel | they kinda have a point that they would have to run it through QA twice, without any real advantage |
| 15:14.29 | arkanes | it's not our fault their testing procedures are terrible :P |
| 15:14.35 | Fisker | well i got a solution for that as well nevcairiel |
| 15:14.49 | Fisker | there's another inferior platform they're running through QA that they could just remove |
| 15:15.03 | nevcairiel | everyone should just stop supporting 32bit |
| 15:15.07 | Fisker | also that |
| 15:15.11 | arkanes | yeah if they just dropped windows |
| 15:15.12 | kadrahil | everyone should just stop using windows |
| 15:15.15 | nevcairiel | remove the x86 instruction set from cpus already |
| 15:15.18 | arkanes | then they could go 64 bit only and nobody would care |
| 15:15.33 | Fisker | unfortunately 64-bit adoption is still only about 50/50 |
| 15:15.38 | Fisker | according to steam anyway |
| 15:15.45 | arkanes | it's more like 90/10 on OS X, fisker |
| 15:15.48 | selckin | because windows refused to release 64bit |
| 15:15.50 | arkanes | so who's the inferior platform now |
| 15:16.04 | Fisker | they've released 64-bit for a billion years selckin |
| 15:16.40 | selckin | yeah since win7, since vista doesn't count |
| 15:16.44 | arkanes | yeah but running 32 bit stuff under 64 bit windows is pathetically bad, and of course drivers and other nonsense |
| 15:16.45 | selckin | which is really recent |
| 15:16.58 | sylvanaar_work | wow memory is cheap isnt it |
| 15:16.58 | arkanes | 2003 has a 64 bit version |
| 15:17.06 | nevcairiel | xp also had 64bit, which was more stable then 32bit since it used the 2003 kernel :P |
| 15:17.10 | kadrahil | world of warcraft memory is cheap |
| 15:17.12 | selckin | we're talking home users clearly |
| 15:17.29 | Fisker | xp 64-bit was home users as well |
| 15:17.41 | Fisker | otherwise they could just have bought 2003 Server 64-bit Standard |
| 15:17.42 | Fisker | duh |
| 15:17.46 | arkanes | the superior 64 bit platform is OS X |
| 15:17.47 | arkanes | clearly |
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| 15:18.06 | Fisker | and running 32-bit stuff under 64-bit windows works fine here |
| 15:18.21 | arkanes | there's a bunch of stuff that doesn't work, or is a hassle |
| 15:18.27 | arkanes | windows needs universal binaries :( |
| 15:18.37 | nevcairiel | universal binaries are so bad |
| 15:18.42 | arkanes | we run mixed mode stuff on our 2003 servers and it's a giant pain in the ass |
| 15:18.47 | sylvanaar_work | i wonder if moving from 6GB to 12GB would do anything for me |
| 15:18.48 | arkanes | universal binaries are amazing |
| 15:19.14 | nevcairiel | there is no advantage, really. The apps you run in 32bit don't have a 64bit executable to begin with, so nothing would change |
| 15:19.19 | arkanes | sylvanaar_work: what os are you running? |
| 15:19.21 | kadrahil | they come from another dimension |
| 15:19.28 | sylvanaar_work | win7 64 |
| 15:19.32 | arkanes | nevcairiel: the issue isn't performance, it's deployment |
| 15:20.02 | arkanes | "universal binaries" is just another way of saying "application packaging" which I'm sure nobody will deny is a travesty under windows and always has been |
| 15:20.13 | arkanes | getting a little bit better in the lat 5 years but there's still a ton of inertia there |
| 15:20.23 | nevcairiel | someone posted a suggestion on the linux kernel mailing list some month ago about a ELF format for universal binaries, he was smacked down so hard, that was funny :D |
| 15:21.04 | arkanes | yeah the needs not there in the linux ecosystem |
| 15:21.18 | arkanes | because nobody really cares about binary distribution thats not through a package manager |
| 15:21.20 | nevcairiel | osx only invented that weird format because they managed to run two completly incompatible architectures |
| 15:21.35 | nevcairiel | they wouldnt have done it for 32->64 |
| 15:21.38 | arkanes | they did exactly what windows is doing right now |
| 15:21.49 | nevcairiel | they did it for ppc->x86 |
| 15:21.58 | arkanes | and also for 32/64 |
| 15:22.11 | arkanes | those are completely incompatible architectures :P |
| 15:22.24 | nevcairiel | a amd64 cpu can run in x86 |
| 15:22.26 | nevcairiel | a ppc cannot. |
| 15:22.34 | arkanes | but not vice versa |
| 15:22.43 | arkanes | which means you need a way to distribute the right binary to the right user |
| 15:22.50 | sylvanaar_work | arent they different endian as weel |
| 15:22.55 | sylvanaar_work | *well |
| 15:23.05 | arkanes | in the windows world, the user has to know what they need and download the right thign, and if they won't they |
| 15:23.11 | arkanes | will get a technical and obscure error message |
| 15:23.19 | nevcairiel | a user that doesnt know, should just get x86 |
| 15:23.24 | arkanes | that is the issue that universal binaries address |
| 15:23.30 | arkanes | a user that doesn't know, *doesn't know that* |
| 15:23.55 | selckin | i think it's just rediculous windwos doesn' thave a package manager |
| 15:24.08 | arkanes | and incidentally that is exactly one of the reasons why windows has a hell of a time getting any real 64 bit adoption where as OS X did it in 3 years without a hitch |
| 15:24.31 | sylvanaar_work | i blame XP |
| 15:24.31 | arkanes | because since users don't know, and you can't really test it, your best bet as someone distributing software is to just ship 32 bit versions |
| 15:24.37 | nevcairiel | Eh. most applications ship some kind of installer. This installer could be smart and do whatever is right for the OS |
| 15:24.46 | arkanes | sure, it could |
| 15:24.57 | nevcairiel | a universal binary wouldnt improve that |
| 15:25.09 | Fisker |  |
| 15:25.11 | sylvanaar_work | all the users that stayed with xp prevented adoption of 64 bit |
| 15:25.12 | nevcairiel | sure, you would have one kind of executable, and not 2 in the package |
| 15:25.12 | arkanes | its not like the windows world doesn't already suffer from 10 million diffferent half assed application downloaders |
| 15:25.23 | arkanes | hell MS themselves have at least 3 of them |
| 15:25.53 | arkanes | if they built "unversal binary" style support into MSI that'd be a step in the right direction |
| 15:25.59 | Fisker | nevcairiel |
| 15:26.15 | nevcairiel | MSI is way too complicated to use to begin with =P |
| 15:26.19 | arkanes | not enough, though, because there's just nothing with enough install base on windows to really push toward universal adoption |
| 15:27.03 | arkanes | and, of course, the installer is also an executable |
| 15:27.14 | nevcairiel | a msi is not |
| 15:27.32 | nevcairiel | also, not really any harm in shipping a 32-bit installer, it'll never ever go away |
| 15:27.42 | arkanes | msi isn't, but the hypothetical "sufficiently smart" one would be |
| 15:27.42 | Fisker | but it will |
| 15:27.42 | nevcairiel | hell cpus probably still support 16bit protected mode |
| 15:27.54 | arkanes | it won't |
| 15:27.59 | arkanes | and that right there is one reason why :P |
| 15:28.08 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 15:28.33 | Fisker | so apparently computers will survive the universe ending :( |
| 15:28.41 | Fisker | giggles |
| 15:28.44 | Kalroth | yaaay |
| 15:28.44 | arkanes | yep |
| 15:28.51 | nevcairiel | there will never be a amd64 cpu that does not support x86 |
| 15:28.57 | nevcairiel | maybe one day we will have something new |
| 15:29.01 | nevcairiel | without backwards crap |
| 15:29.05 | arkanes | nope |
| 15:29.05 | sylvanaar_work | will we ever get 64 bit instruction set into the mainstream |
| 15:29.11 | Fisker | http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=sv&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nordichardware.se%2Fnyheter%2F76-moderkort%2F41997-exklusivt-asus-p8h67-i-deluxe-tar-sandy-bridge-till-mini-itx.html <-moar |
| 15:29.19 | kadrahil | nevcariel: kind of like when motherboards stopped shipping with pci and isa slots |
| 15:29.23 | arkanes | I mean maybe if there's a nuclear war and we're forced to recreate society from scratch over another 100 thousand years |
| 15:29.40 | kadrahil | nevcairiel: i remember getting my first board with only pci slots on it and being like, FINALLY |
| 15:29.42 | selckin | just wait for mobile to explode more |
| 15:29.43 | sylvanaar_work | not just 64 bit addressing |
| 15:29.46 | arkanes | but not in the normal evolution of things, we're past the point where breaking backwards compatability entirely is reasable |
| 15:31.03 | arkanes | if mobile actually starts to seriously eclipse PC usage, which I don't really see happening, then it's just barely possible there will be an opportunity there |
| 15:31.06 | nevcairiel | with the tight integration VMs, maybe it would be possible to emulate old systems well enough, even if running on crap performance |
| 15:31.11 | arkanes | but once that eclipsing is done you'll be stuck |
| 15:31.15 | nevcairiel | or ARM pushes for PCs |
| 15:31.46 | selckin | i see it happening |
| 15:32.07 | arkanes | I'm not sure there's enough time for it to happen before the OS bubble finally breaks |
| 15:32.20 | sylvanaar_work | what os bubble |
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| 15:32.31 | arkanes | the bubble that is people paying for OSes |
| 15:32.34 | nevcairiel | the mac people kinda managed to recompile all their software for x86 after ppc died |
| 15:32.58 | arkanes | nevcairiel: OS X shipped an emulator, and the OS X developer community is vastly different than the windows one |
| 15:33.06 | nevcairiel | didnt you just praise OS X |
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| 15:33.09 | arkanes | yes |
| 15:33.09 | nevcairiel | that costs money too! |
| 15:33.12 | arkanes | I did! |
| 15:33.19 | arkanes | that doesn't mean I don't think that it's forming a bubble |
| 15:33.29 | sylvanaar_work | so you think windows will be free |
| 15:33.34 | nevcairiel | besides, i try again occasionally over the years |
| 15:33.37 | sylvanaar_work | or go away entirely |
| 15:33.45 | arkanes | sylvanaar_work: no, I think it will stop being profitable for microsoft |
| 15:33.47 | nevcairiel | but linux is just not 100% ready |
| 15:33.57 | arkanes | sylvanaar_work: and they are desperately trying to find an alternate revenue stream |
| 15:34.01 | nevcairiel | its audio and video subsystems are just still horrible |
| 15:34.07 | arkanes | they've got office |
| 15:34.16 | arkanes | they're trying really, really hard to push the SAAS/cloud stuff |
| 15:34.33 | sylvanaar_work | they have made a lot of money from win7 idk how it will stop being profitable |
| 15:34.37 | arkanes | but they know that it's getting harder and harder to sell new versions of windows, it's hader and harder to *make* new versions of windows |
| 15:34.55 | arkanes | yeah and it took them between 7 and 15 years to get it out the door, depending on how you could |
| 15:35.04 | sylvanaar_work | they started addressing the harder to make thing with minwin |
| 15:35.10 | arkanes | and they *still* had to cut half the advertised features, and they lost a ton on vista |
| 15:35.29 | arkanes | the place where windows makes its money is on OEM sales and corporate licensing |
| 15:35.49 | nevcairiel | They'll still sell corporate licenses |
| 15:35.50 | arkanes | the OEM sales are still strong, but going down due to pressure from mobile and appliances |
| 15:35.55 | nevcairiel | companys like a contract |
| 15:36.01 | nevcairiel | with support, guaranteed updates |
| 15:36.02 | nevcairiel | and whatnot |
| 15:36.03 | arkanes | companies don't like to upgrade |
| 15:36.09 | sylvanaar_work | thats true |
| 15:36.10 | arkanes | thats why vista was such a bomb |
| 15:36.18 | arkanes | hardly anyone did enterprise upgrades to it |
| 15:36.27 | nevcairiel | why would they, vista was crap |
| 15:36.29 | arkanes | right |
| 15:36.34 | nevcairiel | but the move to win7 is going on at least |
| 15:36.39 | arkanes | win7 was good and probably bought them a lot of time |
| 15:36.48 | sylvanaar_work | win7 everyone likes it |
| 15:36.49 | arkanes | as well as a lot of goodwill, which is important |
| 15:37.00 | arkanes | but it's not sustainable forever, and they know it |
| 15:37.21 | nevcairiel | even if it will be free for home users, or just way cheap for a physical copy, companys will still buy it |
| 15:37.24 | nevcairiel | companys buy linux |
| 15:37.48 | arkanes | when MS sales goes to a corporation, like mine, and says that they want use to spend many millions and upgrade our 10s of thousands of PCs and thousands of servers to new licenses, they have to have something to sell us |
| 15:38.13 | arkanes | nah I'm not talking about them making it free, or linux taking over |
| 15:38.21 | Fisker | who are companys? |
| 15:38.26 | selckin | should be way cheaper for home users tho, price is rediculous imo |
| 15:38.28 | arkanes | say we're talking about windows 8, although it won't happen that soon |
| 15:38.41 | arkanes | they come to us and talk about upgrading, we pass on it |
| 15:38.46 | arkanes | because it's got nothing to offer us |
| 15:39.09 | arkanes | what does MS do? They can either make the product attractive to us, which is increasingly hard, or they can try to bully us by cutting support |
| 15:39.31 | arkanes | if they cut suport, they're putting themselves into exactly the same position linux is now |
| 15:39.39 | nevcairiel | They never bullied before, and i don't seem them starting now. The support lifetimes are all pre-set |
| 15:39.46 | arkanes | the did with NT quite a bit |
| 15:40.01 | arkanes | and yeah they're pre-set but that's not really the issue |
| 15:40.16 | arkanes | the issue is what happens when the EOL period is imminent and there's nothing compelling on the horizon |
| 15:40.27 | nevcairiel | then they failed |
| 15:40.37 | arkanes | there's only so long that they can coast by on their reputation and inertia to get people to upgrade anyway |
| 15:40.55 | arkanes | getting NT4 EOLed was a large struggle for exactly that reason, they extended it ... 3 times? |
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| 15:41.08 | arkanes | so anyway, it's not happening tomorrow |
| 15:41.14 | nevcairiel | If the company knows that their product fails, then yeah, they should extend support and still provide patches |
| 15:41.16 | arkanes | but it's a downward spiral and they know it |
| 15:41.17 | sylvanaar_work | I'd like to see Apple put out a truely new OS. Not another iteration of OSX |
| 15:41.35 | nevcairiel | Apple doesnt care that much about OSX anymore |
| 15:41.39 | nevcairiel | its all iOS now |
| 15:41.44 | sylvanaar_work | i guess |
| 15:41.45 | selckin | which is basicly osx |
| 15:41.53 | arkanes | they've known it for years, which is why they keep trying to transition to a SAAS model |
| 15:42.03 | arkanes | it's "cloud" now but it's the same deal |
| 15:42.24 | arkanes | iOS is OSX, but apple is definitely focussed on ipad/iphone and not on the desktop anymore |
| 15:42.27 | arkanes | which is sad :( |
| 15:42.40 | nevcairiel | didnt they want to launch an OSX appstore |
| 15:42.49 | arkanes | yeah |
| 15:42.49 | sylvanaar_work | they did already didnt they |
| 15:43.02 | arkanes | I don't think it's open yet but it's announced, not just a hypothetical |
| 15:43.09 | arkanes | part of Lion, I think? |
| 15:43.14 | sylvanaar_work | its a sure thing, i was pretty sure it was already open |
| 15:43.21 | nevcairiel | which is kinda weird, as Jobs doesnt like to announce things so early |
| 15:43.26 | arkanes | I don't think it will be as successful as the iphone one |
| 15:43.29 | nevcairiel | he is more the go on stage and show finished product guy |
| 15:43.42 | arkanes | it was announced at the dev conference |
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| 15:44.09 | arkanes | it's in a different place that the iphone app store is, they need the developers of currently popular desktop apps to buy in |
| 15:44.27 | arkanes | so they announced it at WWDC when they were talking about Lion features |
| 15:44.55 | nevcairiel | did the new osx version with the updated OpenGL that WoW needs come out yet? :d |
| 15:45.10 | arkanes | I dunno, I'm not in the developer preview |
| 15:45.11 | arkanes | I doubt it |
| 15:45.19 | sylvanaar_work | the store opens Jan 6 |
| 15:45.45 | sylvanaar_work | right off the apple website |
| 15:46.04 | sylvanaar_work | http://www.apple.com/mac/app-store/ |
| 15:46.50 | Fisker | what really needs internet censorship is mac |
| 15:47.14 | Kalroth | "DRAM chip prices reached a one-year low on Tuesday and approached their cheapest ever due to a post-holiday oversupply." |
| 15:47.15 | Kalroth | yaaaay |
| 15:47.27 | Fisker | old |
| 15:47.31 | sylvanaar_work | ^ |
| 15:47.32 | Fisker | dram fanboy |
| 15:47.48 | Kalroth | my lovedoll is called dram |
| 15:47.56 | Kalroth | so i can dual-channel her |
| 15:48.01 | Fisker | you have tshirts with memory chips on them |
| 15:48.07 | sylvanaar_work | i cant decide if i should get this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231358&cm_re=F3-12800CL9T-_-20-231-358-_-Product |
| 15:48.31 | Fisker | i want DDR4 |
| 15:48.40 | sylvanaar_work | does it exist? |
| 15:48.49 | Fisker | why would you get 3x4? |
| 15:48.50 | Kalroth | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR4_SDRAM |
| 15:49.10 | sylvanaar_work | why not fisker? its triple channle |
| 15:49.24 | Fisker | http://en.akihabaranews.com/79068/desktop/samsung-announces-the-development-of-the-first-ddr4-module-in-the-world |
| 15:49.26 | sylvanaar_work | s/nle/nel/ |
| 15:49.29 | Kalroth | the good cpus arent tripple |
| 15:49.33 | Fisker | you should get sandy bridge sylvanaar |
| 15:49.52 | sylvanaar_work | sounds expensive Fisker |
| 15:49.56 | Fisker | it isn't |
| 15:50.14 | Kalroth | you only need a new cpu and a new mobo and probably also a new psu |
| 15:50.19 | Kalroth | and new case and new mouse |
| 15:50.22 | sylvanaar_work | "This product is currently unavailable" |
| 15:50.40 | Kalroth | yeah, you cant buy it yet |
| 15:50.42 | Fisker | why would you need a new PSU Kalroth ? |
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| 15:50.54 | Kalroth | Fisker: you asked about the psu but not the mouse?!? |
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| 15:51.16 | Fisker | no i figured it wasn't serious |
| 15:51.20 | Fisker | but i wasn't sure about the psu |
| 15:52.49 | Fisker | damnit nevcairiel |
| 15:53.11 | Fisker | why won't those damn jerks start updating their shops with sandy bridge |
| 15:53.17 | Fisker | i need to look at my options pl0x |
| 15:53.29 | nevcairiel | probably not allowed |
| 15:53.35 | Fisker | they are |
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| 16:09.02 | pompy | Ackis: why would u approve this?? http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/shittosell/ |
| 16:09.44 | pompy | makes an addon called FucksYouUp |
| 16:10.45 | kadrahil | rofl |
| 16:11.02 | durcyn | does cf even have a policy for addon names or, god forbid, code quality? |
| 16:11.05 | Ackis | seriously pompy stop fucking bitching about my moderation stuff I'm getting fucking tired of it |
| 16:11.29 | durcyn | it seems like a fucking cesspool |
| 16:11.42 | kadrahil | owned |
| 16:12.17 | Ackis | and no durcyn there is no code quality standard, which is why a lot of shit on wowace gets moved to CF |
| 16:12.26 | kadrahil | Fisker: i asked my director to find out when dell's doing their refresh |
| 16:12.31 | kadrahil | Fisker: (he has inside infoz) |
| 16:13.02 | kadrahil | Fisker: cause we use dell here for everything so i get a new optiplex when they go sandy bridge |
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| 16:13.45 | pompy | whats a good archaeology addon to use? ive seen a couple |
| 16:13.54 | selckin | archy |
| 16:14.12 | Niv | ^ |
| 16:14.13 | mckenziemc | Arh |
| 16:14.16 | Ackis | @project sal |
| 16:14.17 | Repo | Ackis: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/sal/. SAL. Game: WoW. melzedan (Manager/Author). Updated: 14 days ago. Tickets: 4/4 |
| 16:15.25 | durcyn | archy is pretty bad |
| 16:15.50 | Niv | what? |
| 16:15.58 | Niv | it has a couple bugs |
| 16:16.00 | Niv | but it's great |
| 16:16.03 | pompy | @describe sam |
| 16:16.04 | Repo | pompy: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/sam/. Shaker's Archaeology Mod. Provides Infromation about missing Archaeology projects |
| 16:16.09 | Ackis | it's bad |
| 16:16.26 | Ackis | I nuked it from my system a while ago |
| 16:16.29 | Ackis | and I'm not looking back |
| 16:16.38 | durcyn | i can accomplish the same thing with gathermate and tomtom |
| 16:16.43 | durcyn | even with tomtom's egregious memory leaks |
| 16:17.04 | Ackis | durcyn: I experienced an archy bug that caused tomtom to eat up all my CPU cycles |
| 16:17.17 | durcyn | clutch. |
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| 16:17.33 | Ackis | also caused Ace3 libraries to go crazy |
| 16:17.43 | Ackis | just by being in the spot between org and azshara |
| 16:17.45 | durcyn | i'm getting ~0.5KiB/s increasing usage while moving with a waypoint arrow up, with current git head tomtom |
| 16:19.44 | Repo | 10libguildbankcomm-1-0: 03myrroddin * r16 LibGuildBankComm-1.0.lua: - Send and receive tabs independently |
| 16:19.47 | Repo | - Only concerned about view permissions on bank frame closed and after receiving comms |
| 16:19.47 | Repo | - Add more debug prints |
| 16:19.48 | Repo | - Better logic (I hope) for logging in, joining/leaving a guild, and other requests |
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| 19:04.27 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://paste.wowace.com | http://twitter.com/WowAcecom | http://lua.org | Curse Client v4: http://www.curse.com/client | WoWInterface Minion: http://minion.mmoui.com/ || Happy New Year! |
| 19:05.35 | mitchnull | huh, handynotes updated? |
| 19:05.46 | durcyn | yes |
| 19:06.55 | mitchnull | and flightmasters, too. happy happy joy joy |
| 19:07.50 | Fisker | no mitchnull |
| 19:07.53 | Fisker | you will be destroy |
| 19:07.54 | Fisker | ed |
| 19:09.58 | mitchnull | noway |
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| 19:13.54 | nevcairiel | flightmasters are shown on the main map now <.< |
| 19:14.21 | Yoshimo | they are but in the picture files not as a standalone object |
| 19:14.35 | KriLL3 | anyone knows of an addon that shows dungeon enterances on the map? |
| 19:14.42 | KriLL3 | not handynotes, HN is broken |
| 19:15.29 | durcyn | most of that shit's in the base UI these days, the 4.0 map revamp doesn't suck |
| 19:16.04 | Torhal | KriLL3: HandyNotes isn't broken. It was updated. |
| 19:16.23 | mitchnull | not in northrend |
| 19:16.25 | Torhal | durcyn: I can't make a waypoint from the default UI |
| 19:16.33 | durcyn | Torhal: tomtom |
| 19:16.52 | Torhal | Yes, but the default map isn't precise as to the FP locations |
| 19:17.02 | Torhal | HN Flightmasters is |
| 19:18.21 | mitchnull | meh, astrolabe was created by one of those anything-but-ace and never-disembed-cos-it-would-eat-your-cats developers: :( |
| 19:20.12 | nevcairiel | fly to the location shown on the map, turn on flightmaster tracking |
| 19:20.12 | nevcairiel | win! |
| 19:20.57 | Torhal | Bah |
| 19:21.02 | mitchnull | nev: I can't find the FP icons on the default map, they blend in too much |
| 19:21.18 | Torhal | Especially in node-saturated maps |
| 19:21.27 | nevcairiel | get glasses |
| 19:21.34 | nevcairiel | i think they are kinda obvious |
| 19:21.35 | mitchnull | but seriously, why put up a .zip of an addon without a .toc :( |
| 19:27.36 | selckin | our prot paladin keeps forgetting right fury, any addon i can configure to warn me when other ppl are missing a buff like that? |
| 19:28.33 | mort | power auras |
| 19:29.15 | durcyn | i use simpleselfrebuff for that kind of crap |
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| 19:29.24 | durcyn | mousewheel victory! |
| 19:29.55 | mitchnull | my mousewheel is semi-broken :( |
| 19:30.03 | mitchnull | it skips every other "tick" |
| 19:30.20 | quiescens | moo |
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| 19:41.55 | selckin | yeah for yourself |
| 19:42.01 | selckin | but i want something to check another player |
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| 19:59.16 | rljohn | did blizz add an API call to check someones main talent spec, i.e. fury or arms |
| 20:00.19 | haste | spoiler, it's the one with the most talent points |
| 20:00.32 | nevcairiel | there is actually an api to check that |
| 20:01.07 | nevcairiel | i forgot which it was though |
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| 20:02.07 | haste | kinda ffffuuuu, spent most of the day learning inkscape |
| 20:02.17 | haste | then it crashes and refuses to work again |
| 20:02.26 | haste | and strace isn't telling me anything useful |
| 20:03.51 | rljohn | GetPrimaryTalentTree apparently does the trick |
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| 20:13.49 | Megalon | Fisker http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuTkgi7scKo |
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| 20:29.39 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7748 Blackwing (7 files in 2 directories): Blackwing/Magmaw: hopefully make vulnerability work |
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| 20:35.11 | dysaster | It is related to moving cluster nodes so that the ending path is shorter. Gave me savings of about 15-20% |
| 20:35.15 | dysaster | mt |
| 20:35.31 | Repo | 10professionsvault: 03oscarucb 044.0 beta 2 * r183 : (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 20:35.32 | Repo | Tagging as 4.0 beta 2 |
| 20:35.33 | Repo | ProfessionsVault v4.0 beta 2 includes: |
| 20:35.34 | Repo | BUG FIX: PV was breaking coloring of non-recipes at merchant and AH |
| 20:35.35 | Repo | BUG FIX: ticket 40: "invalid capture index" lua error on German client |
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| 20:53.33 | mitchnull | ~seen kagaro |
| 20:53.45 | purl | kagaro is currently on #wowace (15d 23h 30m 38s). Has said a total of 43 messages. Is idling for 1d 4h 53m 52s, last said: 'gahh stealing ma cookies'. |
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| 20:57.00 | sylvanaar_work | ~seen sylvanaar_work |
| 20:57.02 | purl | sylvanaar_work is currently on #wowuidev (7h 46m 49s) #wowace (7h 46m 49s) #curseforge (7h 46m 49s). Has said a total of 68 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: '~seen sylvanaar_work'. |
| 20:57.36 | sylvanaar_work | ~seen sylvanaar |
| 20:57.36 | purl | sylvanaar is currently on #wowuidev #wowace #curseforge. Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 10h 58m 2s, last said: 'lol'. |
| 20:58.40 | Fisker | slaps kagaro around a bit with a large trout |
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| 21:07.28 | Axodious | hey anyone have a popular mount mod that gives me a hotkey to randomly mount with the appropriate type of mount? |
| 21:09.07 | TheDude2 | hmm i still use jejemount, but its apparently abandoned now |
| 21:09.18 | Axodious | looking at gogomount |
| 21:09.19 | TheDude2 | still works, with a couple exceptions (dalaran still stuck on the ground) |
| 21:09.34 | Axodious | one thing i would like is the ability to hold a mod and it will only use ground mounts |
| 21:10.03 | Axodious | think this will do it |
| 21:10.53 | Hjalte | Are the ZG coins still usable? |
| 21:11.42 | TheDude2 | speaking of outdated addons.... Does anyone know a suitable replacement for "RaidTargets". looking to show a list of raid members, and what they are targeting. in a tiny frame (i.e. not tied to unit frames) |
| 21:11.47 | Yoshimo | some bosses have their special kind of power, not mana, not fokus but diffrent things, can i make transcriptor log these? |
| 21:12.10 | sylvanaar_work | like conclave of winds |
| 21:13.05 | Yoshimo | saurfang also had it |
| 21:13.28 | nevcairiel | saurfang used his mana bar |
| 21:13.36 | nevcairiel | onyxia has something like this |
| 21:13.51 | nevcairiel | something with a special bar |
| 21:13.53 | Axodious | is it related to the sound bar too? |
| 21:13.56 | Axodious | for atramedes |
| 21:14.03 | nevcairiel | its basically a sound bar for the mob |
| 21:14.16 | Yoshimo | nevcairiel: , do you know how i can log this? |
| 21:14.17 | durcyn | Hjalte: no |
| 21:14.28 | Axodious | maybe triggers the same way idk |
| 21:14.43 | durcyn | Hjalte: all of the Zandalar NPCs are dead and gone |
| 21:14.46 | Hjalte | durcyn: Time to throw them out then |
| 21:15.01 | Pneumatus | onxyxia has an entirely additional power bar |
| 21:15.05 | Pneumatus | *onyxia |
| 21:15.18 | durcyn | apparently the only thing Deathwing accomplished was knocking over a statue and killing a lot of useless trolls, who knew |
| 21:15.53 | Pneumatus | Yoshimo: isnt power in general tracked by transcriptor? |
| 21:16.46 | Yoshimo | not that i can see |
| 21:17.11 | Pneumatus | UnitPower will give the numbers, anyway |
| 21:17.14 | Repo | 10visualheal: 03xbeeps * r72 VisualHeal.lua: Implement the incoming heal bar for the player. |
| 21:17.15 | Repo | Add appropriate handling to the shared media callbacks. |
| 21:18.19 | Pneumatus | no idea about onyxia's special power thing though |
| 21:19.23 | Yoshimo | Pneumatus: , can i safely just add "UNIT_POWER" to the events or do we need to filter it to enemy creatures? |
| 21:19.42 | Pneumatus | UNIT_POWER fires for everything, mana gains for friendlies etc |
| 21:19.50 | Pneumatus | you'll definatly want to filter it |
| 21:19.57 | Pneumatus | rage gains |
| 21:20.03 | Pneumatus | all power changes, basically :) |
| 21:20.33 | Yoshimo | now i need to think about how to limit it to nonplayers^^ |
| 21:22.53 | Pneumatus | you can probably just filter for boss[1-4] |
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| 21:33.44 | mitchnull | durcyn: ping |
| 21:34.13 | durcyn | mitchnull: huh |
| 21:34.42 | mitchnull | any reason to not use the spell name (eg. Enchanting) in Broker_Professions and instead using stuff like Profession_1? |
| 21:35.08 | durcyn | mitchnull: i originally did, but had to change it to support changing professions without reloading ui |
| 21:35.15 | durcyn | or learning them initially |
| 21:35.40 | mitchnull | learning them initially should work |
| 21:35.58 | mitchnull | changing them might cause issues, yeah... |
| 21:36.10 | mitchnull | still, Profession_1 is just ugly ;) |
| 21:36.15 | durcyn | i guess i could revert it |
| 21:36.21 | durcyn | i mean who changes professions regularly, right? |
| 21:36.26 | mitchnull | yeah |
| 21:36.42 | durcyn | well, it's also kind of handy to preserve positioning across characters, come to think of it |
| 21:36.50 | mitchnull | and the worst thing that could happen is that they have a non-functioning "old" profession until the first reload |
| 21:40.25 | mitchnull | well, no biggie, I'll just keep my changes in my local version and fix the occasional conflicts ;) |
| 21:41.24 | NeoTron | TheDude2: Magic Targets |
| 21:41.27 | NeoTron | perhaps |
| 21:41.45 | NeoTron | it's not a 1 to 1 <raid member> to target, but lists all targeted mobs, cc status etc |
| 21:41.46 | durcyn | i see zero reason to ever touch it again, unless they magically add another tradeskill |
| 21:42.54 | TheDude2 | NeoTron: ooo that looks damn close, thanks |
| 21:44.17 | NeoTron | I think I originally wrote it to replace Raid Targets, but I'm not 100% sure that was my inspiration |
| 21:44.27 | NeoTron | it was to replace something that no longer worked at least :P |
| 21:45.25 | TheDude2 | hmm its actually the opposite of what i was looking for, but ill play with it anyways. very cool addon |
| 21:46.25 | TheDude2 | i want something indexed by raid member, not mob |
| 21:46.37 | TheDude2 | more to be able to easily spot who is not switching targets fast |
| 21:49.02 | ulic | seems like unit frames with a target frame would work, but I know you said you didn't want unit frames, but it is kind of what you want :) |
| 21:49.47 | ulic | NeoTron: btw, I posted some patch code as a ticket for BuffEnough for rogue poisons. |
| 21:50.36 | NeoTron | ulic: ok I'll take a look tonight |
| 21:50.58 | NeoTron | TheDude2: I've been considering something like that, basically a "grid targets" sort of thing |
| 21:51.21 | NeoTron | TheDude2: but MT can be used to see who's targeting (or not targeting) a mob with the tooltip and other nice things like the CC timers |
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| 21:52.42 | NeoTron | the main benefit of a raid member target view is that the targets woulc be clickable |
| 21:53.06 | NeoTron | drawback being a lot of duplicate information |
| 21:53.26 | TheDude2 | yeah... unit frames are the answer, but i want like... a 2nd instance of a unit frame just for targets. dont want to mess with my current health/mana/cast bar frames |
| 21:53.54 | TheDude2 | yeah its the mouseover im trying to avoid, id eat the screen space |
| 21:53.55 | NeoTron | it's not just ordinary unit frames, but raid1target .. raid25target unit frames |
| 21:54.15 | TheDude2 | mostly looking for a way to glance and see who is taking a long time to switch targets, or not switching. more than knowing what target i should switch to myself |
| 21:54.32 | durcyn | ~seen ckknight |
| 21:54.41 | purl | ckknight <~ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 9d 20h 57m 44s ago, saying: 'PHP is so horrible.'. |
| 21:54.55 | NeoTron | maybe what would be useful would be a persistent view in magic targets that shows who's targeting what |
| 21:55.06 | NeoTron | textual summary view of sorts |
| 21:55.46 | ulic | I use pitbull4, and just make a very small raid1target frame that is only a health bar and raid icon. and stick it next to the raid1 frame, works pretty well for me. |
| 21:56.31 | ulic | the "bar" is pretty much only a little bigger than the raid icon itself. |
| 21:56.45 | ulic | unfortunetly I don't have any screen shots to show you. |
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| 22:19.20 | mitchnull | is there an api or ace3 function that dumps a table like /dump? |
| 22:21.11 | Parnic | i tried to find one of those a while back and was unsuccessful |
| 22:22.11 | nevcairiel | you can just use the function thats powering /dump |
| 22:22.44 | Parnic | do you know what that function is? :) |
| 22:22.52 | nevcairiel | DevTools_Dump(table) |
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| 22:22.58 | Parnic | sweet |
| 22:23.00 | Connor_ | Are random battlegrounds really worth as much XP as Call to Arms? |
| 22:28.31 | mitchnull | nev: is it possible to dump a table by address? (as in, framestack says: <3> table: 1D6F7E80, I'd like to dump that table |
| 22:29.30 | Killmore | is there any / command you can use in game to know your current progress on an achievement ? like tol'barad veteran (100 wins) ? |
| 22:30.23 | mitchnull | erm, I think my quest is futile |
| 22:30.45 | mitchnull | there's no way to find out if a blip is place on the minimap or not, right? |
| 22:31.03 | Parnic | a profession blip or party-triggered ping? |
| 22:31.19 | mitchnull | (I thought of iterating the textures of Minimap* frames) |
| 22:31.23 | Parnic | profession/location/dude/whatever |
| 22:31.25 | mitchnull | parnic: mining nodes |
| 22:33.30 | mitchnull | I need some audio alert when I'm near a bloody node. I keep missing them |
| 22:33.50 | Pneumatus | unpossible |
| 22:34.31 | mitchnull | :( |
| 22:34.32 | Pneumatus | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=18472 :P |
| 22:35.02 | mitchnull | oh well |
| 22:35.14 | Parnic | somebody should add "addons cannot crash the game" in there :P |
| 22:35.22 | Pneumatus | except they can |
| 22:35.33 | Parnic | addons can trigger the client to crash the game :P |
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| 22:48.56 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7749 Blackwing (8 files in 2 directories): Blackwing/Magmaw: bugfix |
| 22:48.57 | Repo | Blackwing/Omnotron: stop spamming fixate, give a warning when the poison bombs are coming, self warn if one is chasing you. |
| 22:52.44 | NeoTron | Parnic: I'd say that's a trival distinction. Its very easy to crash the client using a few bytes of lua code |
| 22:53.06 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.14 | Parnic | except that WoW's devs have said publicly that addon code should not be capable of crashing the game |
| 22:53.27 | Parnic | there was a looooong discussion on this yesterday :P |
| 22:53.29 | NeoTron | that's true |
| 22:53.31 | Parnic | i don't wanna rehash it |
| 22:53.36 | Fisker | Funkeh` |
| 22:53.39 | Fisker | omnomtron imo |
| 22:53.40 | NeoTron | it shouldn't be able to but it can |
| 22:53.47 | NeoTron | which clearly is a bug in the Blizzard code |
| 22:53.56 | Funkeh` | :) |
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| 22:54.02 | NeoTron | and I did it accidently by making a typo and it was rather hard to find the source |
| 22:55.05 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp 07master * 2.0.5-111-g235f0c9 / (5 files in 3 directories): [+4 commits] |
| 22:55.06 | Repo | 235f0c9: Merge branch 'master' of git.wowace.com:wow/arl/mainline |
| 22:55.07 | Repo | 0ac10d9: The Jewelcrafting database now includes all the recipes added in Cataclysm. |
| 22:55.08 | Repo | 79c8ebb: in the filter panel, disabled the text of the new reputations |
| 22:55.09 | Repo | aab6047: Added some new vendors and trainers |
| 22:55.27 | NeoTron | that said, I think it'd be silly to say addons can't crash wow when they clearly can and it's very easy to do, even by accident |
| 22:55.28 | Parnic | that's okay, i did it in a way that required like 5 conditions to be met and only happened when zoning :P |
| 22:55.31 | Parnic | so debug output was right out |
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| 22:55.57 | Parnic | but fortunately i discovered that UnitSelectionColor is a bad function so i just made my own |
| 22:59.33 | dysaster | Does anybody use routes addon? |
| 22:59.40 | Parnic | i do |
| 23:00.07 | dysaster | I have an experimental feature that chops off 15-20% from route length. Care to test it out? |
| 23:00.22 | Parnic | i'd love to, but am at work at the moment |
| 23:00.25 | dysaster | haha |
| 23:00.26 | Parnic | i can give it a run in a few hours when i get home |
| 23:00.36 | dysaster | Okies. It's on github. Sec. |
| 23:01.22 | dysaster | git@github.com:vhallac/Routes.git, branch is "my-mods" |
| 23:01.35 | dysaster | I am very good at creative names. |
| 23:02.48 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Rabbit * r483 modules/Tanks.lua: |
| 23:02.59 | Repo | Fix nil error when we can't get UnitClass of a raid member for some reason. |
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| 23:08.41 | pompy | @project archy |
| 23:08.42 | Repo | pompy: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/archy/. Archy - Archaeology Assistant. Game: WoW. daihenka (Manager/Author). Updated: 4 days ago. Tickets: 39/53 |
| 23:09.20 | Fisker | slaps Parnic around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:09.43 | Fisker | slap'd oover rdppl |
| 23:10.36 | Repo | 10fishwarden: 03x87bliss * r41 / (2 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 23:10.48 | Repo | v4.0.3.16 |
| 23:10.49 | Repo | Please help translate (NOT WITH GOOGLE) |
| 23:10.50 | Repo | I still need 5 Spanish, and 2 Korean phrases translated from English. |
| 23:10.51 | Repo | http://www.wowace.com/addons/fishwarden/localization/ |
| 23:11.21 | Repo | 10fishwarden: 03x87bliss 04v4.0.3.16 * r42 : Tagging as v4.0.3.16 |
| 23:15.55 | Repo | 10customplayerpowerbaralt: 03Maat * r5 CustomPlayerPowerBarAlt.lua: change text delimiter so it doesn't have to be escaped |
| 23:16.21 | Repo | 10customplayerpowerbaralt: 03Maat 041.1 * r6 : Tagging as 1.1 |
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| 23:22.41 | Zimbo | whats up Parnic |
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| 23:30.31 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.0.5-112-g67aa137 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Updated Changelog and turned it on for release. |
| 23:30.57 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 042.1.0 * 6f40cd0 /: [new tag] Tagging new release, |
| 23:35.34 | Repo | 10libfail-2-0: 03Maat * r27 LibFail-2.0.lua: add Ascendant Council Flame Strike |
| 23:40.29 | Repo | 10skillet: 03yossa * r238 / (10 files in 3 directories): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 23:40.42 | Repo | Skillet: |
| 23:40.43 | Repo | - Guild View All |
| 23:40.44 | Repo | - ignore queue positions you don't have mats for |
| 23:40.45 | Repo | - ExpandAll, CollapseAll |
| 23:44.56 | Repo | 10skillet: 03yossa 042.13 * r239 : Tagging as 2.13 |
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