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| 00:18.45 | Repo | 70ad897: add plain-text-override to options |
| 00:18.46 | Repo | 8f05e89: add plain-texts to db |
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| 00:18.57 | Repo | 10auto-toast: 03Tharai * r9 / (2 files in 1 directory): Update TOC\n Fix saving |
| 00:30.21 | pompy | " This is a bug. A hotfix was applied about an hour ago that changes it so Chaos Orbs will only be available for Need rolls by characters with Tailoring, Blacksmithing, Leatherworking, and Engineering (minimum skill of 425 required). " |
| 00:30.23 | pompy | haha |
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| 00:35.47 | durcyn | haha? |
| 00:40.53 | Megalon | make an option to auto-pass on them? |
| 00:40.54 | Megalon | :7 |
| 00:41.32 | Megalon | but it is probably because you can't trade them after looting |
| 00:45.24 | pompy | i guess |
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| 01:22.51 | Pneumatus | omg winner |
| 01:23.00 | Pneumatus | glyphed aquatic form is the same speed as the seahorse |
| 01:23.58 | Hjalte | What's a good debuff monitor addon? Would prefer one that knows that ebon plaguebringer is the same as coe etc. |
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| 01:32.48 | Repo | - A drop-down menu for which currencies to display for archaeology is implemented. |
| 01:33.13 | Gagorian | Does anyone here update LibStatLogic? |
| 01:33.36 | Arrowmaster | isnt that whitehoofs? |
| 01:33.58 | Gagorian | Whitetooth? |
| 01:34.04 | Megalon | ratingbuster guy! |
| 01:34.05 | Arrowmaster | sure, whatever |
| 01:34.16 | Arrowmaster | i doubt anybody but him messes with it |
| 01:34.36 | Pneumatus | i dunno, i thought i saw some random guy committing the other day |
| 01:34.39 | Gagorian | I think I've seen some commits by some other guy |
| 01:34.40 | Gagorian | yeah |
| 01:35.08 | Repo | 10fishwarden: 03x87bliss * r39 / (6 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 3 lines) |
| 01:35.09 | Repo | v4.0.3.15 |
| 01:35.10 | Repo | Please help translate (NOT WITH GOOGLE) |
| 01:35.11 | Repo | I still need 5 Spanish, and 2 Korean phrases translated from English. |
| 01:35.12 | Repo | http://www.wowace.com/addons/fishwarden/localization/ |
| 01:35.31 | Pneumatus | maybe i was mistaken, its all translators other than whitetooth |
| 01:35.42 | Repo | 10fishwarden: 03x87bliss 04v4.0.3.15 * r40 : Tagging as v4.0.3.15 |
| 01:52.36 | Gagorian | There probably isn't any way to check if armor specialization is active except checking that every slot has the correct type of armor? |
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| 01:55.15 | Pneumatus | Gagorian: seems that way |
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| 02:12.51 | Harvan | Hey guys. Trying to debug a problem with AceDB - my addon suddenly started ignoring SavedVariables and is always loading defaults. I haven't changed AceDB versions. |
| 02:14.08 | Harvan | Has anyone run into this problem? |
| 02:15.39 | Arrowmaster | pastey your code |
| 02:16.10 | Harvan | HHConfig = {} |
| 02:16.10 | Harvan | local defaults = { |
| 02:16.10 | Harvan | global = { |
| 02:16.12 | Harvan | ... |
| 02:16.15 | Harvan | }; |
| 02:16.17 | Arrowmaster | not in the channel |
| 02:16.23 | Harvan | Where, then? |
| 02:16.30 | Arrowmaster | pastey.net or paste.wowace.com |
| 02:16.37 | Harvan | Oh, thought that was a typo. :) |
| 02:19.30 | Harvan | Okay, pasted at paste.wowace.com - HHConfig SavedVariables Debug |
| 02:20.34 | Arrowmaster | you need to post the link |
| 02:20.41 | Harvan | http://paste.wowace.com/3021/ |
| 02:22.12 | Arrowmaster | you are defining HHConfig twice |
| 02:22.47 | Harvan | I set it to an empty table once just to declare the variable, then set it to refer to the same table as self.db . |
| 02:23.03 | Arrowmaster | thats the problem |
| 02:23.17 | Arrowmaster | you cant do that |
| 02:23.24 | Harvan | Huh - what's actually happening, then? |
| 02:23.43 | Arrowmaster | self.db = LibStub("AceDB-3.0"):New("HHConfig", defaults); |
| 02:23.44 | Arrowmaster | HHConfig = self.db.global; |
| 02:23.47 | Arrowmaster | that part |
| 02:24.09 | Harvan | I thought that would make HHConfig an alias for self.db |
| 02:24.13 | Harvan | And it's worked before. |
| 02:24.24 | Arrowmaster | but HHConfig is your saved vars table |
| 02:25.09 | Harvan | So the call to LibStub:New creates the HHConfig variables table automatically? |
| 02:25.16 | Arrowmaster | you are loading the saved vars from HHConfig then overwriting HHConfig with a sub table |
| 02:25.27 | Arrowmaster | yes if it doesnt exist |
| 02:25.40 | Harvan | Okay, and what's the scope of that variable? |
| 02:25.40 | Arrowmaster | HHConfig is whats listed in your TOC right? |
| 02:25.44 | Harvan | Right. |
| 02:25.47 | Arrowmaster | global |
| 02:26.11 | Harvan | Okay, then I can just remove lines 4 and 170, and it should still work as-is? |
| 02:26.18 | Arrowmaster | you should never ever touch that variable if you are using AceDB, let the library handle it |
| 02:26.26 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 02:26.56 | Arrowmaster | you need to change the rest of your code to not use HHConfig |
| 02:27.04 | Harvan | I was hoping to avoid having to do that. |
| 02:27.30 | Harvan | So basically, anywhere I want to work with something that gets saved to disk, I have to use self.db.global ? |
| 02:27.49 | Harvan | And there's no way to alias it? |
| 02:27.52 | Arrowmaster | self.db |
| 02:28.14 | Arrowmaster | you can alias it but not to the same name as your saved vars variable |
| 02:28.29 | Harvan | Okay. I could just change the name of the saved vars variable and that would work? |
| 02:29.00 | Arrowmaster | maybe, all settings would be lost |
| 02:29.21 | Harvan | That's okay - according to one of my users, it's not obeying their preferences anyway. |
| 02:29.32 | Harvan | So if this fixes the problem, I say that's good enough. :) |
| 02:29.49 | Arrowmaster | well thats because you distroyed their saved vars already |
| 02:30.01 | Harvan | I just don't understand why it worked before, tho. |
| 02:30.06 | Pneumatus | yeh, you're setting their SV to an empty table then re-setting on every load |
| 02:30.06 | Harvan | I didn't change this part of the code. |
| 02:30.09 | Arrowmaster | it never should have |
| 02:30.37 | Arrowmaster | Pneumatus: that part is ok since when the saved vars load they overwrite that HHConfig={}; part |
| 02:31.03 | Pneumatus | ah yes |
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| 02:31.22 | Arrowmaster | the problem is the self.db = LibStub("AceDB-3.0"):New("HHConfig", defaults); HHConfig = self.db.global; |
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| 02:32.07 | Arrowmaster | which is loading the variables from HHConfig, then changing HHConfig so when it saves it it wont be readable by AceDB the next time it loads it |
| 02:32.21 | Harvan | Hmm |
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| 02:32.29 | Arrowmaster | Harvan: you can remove all the settings migration code |
| 02:32.43 | Harvan | If I'm not specifying a profile, would HHConfig = self.db; work? |
| 02:32.43 | Pneumatus | yeh, as its just going to save some key=>value pairs, rather than the full acedb structure |
| 02:32.49 | mckenziemc1 | @describe cosiderator |
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| 02:33.00 | Harvan | (I'm changing the name of the saved vars to HHVars to get rid of the name confusion |
| 02:33.07 | Repo | mckenziemc1: No project found that matches 'cosiderator' |
| 02:33.09 | Arrowmaster | Harvan: why are you even using self.db.global? |
| 02:33.19 | Pneumatus | Harvan: depending on the addons use, you probably want to either make the default profile per-char, or specify a "Default" name |
| 02:33.22 | Harvan | I inherited that code from another addon that was doing it that way. |
| 02:33.37 | Arrowmaster | you probably want to use self.db.profile |
| 02:33.44 | Pneumatus | self.db.global is only useful in a handful of instances |
| 02:33.50 | Arrowmaster | Pneumatus: hes not using self.db.profile so that doesnt do anything |
| 02:33.59 | Pneumatus | er, self.db.global, even |
| 02:34.00 | Harmagedon_ | Is there any videos on how to properly do the alpha layer junk on a .tga file for kgpaenls? |
| 02:34.27 | Harvan | So, use "profile" instead of "global", then. |
| 02:34.47 | Harvan | I don't have plans to support multiple profiles - my aim was to have the settings apply to all hunters on the person's account. |
| 02:34.55 | Arrowmaster | why are you checking UnitClass() inside OnInit? that does nothing |
| 02:35.12 | Harvan | Okay, one thing at a time |
| 02:35.43 | Pneumatus | use self.db.profile, and pass a name through to AceDB:New called "Default" or something, so in general everyone will use the same "Default" profile but if they want to customise, they can |
| 02:35.45 | Arrowmaster | ok in that case use self.db = LibStub("AceDB-3.0"):New("HHConfig", defaults, "Default") |
| 02:36.14 | Harvan | self.db = LibStub("AceDB-3.0"):New("HHVars", defaults, true); <-- equivalent, right? |
| 02:36.29 | Arrowmaster | not sure, i would have to look at the acedb code |
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| 02:36.43 | Dark_Elf | looks like if global which goes to all characters, looks like defaults would be better choice |
| 02:36.54 | Harvan | Gotcha. |
| 02:37.19 | Harvan | And I see your point about removing the migration code - the saved variables got blown, so the migration stuff is kinda superfluous. |
| 02:37.22 | Arrowmaster | yes true works |
| 02:38.29 | Arrowmaster | so then, self.db = LibStub("AceDB-3.0"):New("HHConfig", defaults, true); HHConfig = self.db |
| 02:38.30 | Harvan | Okay, about UnitClass(): Is that not available in OnInit? |
| 02:38.47 | Arrowmaster | its not that its not available but it has no effect at all in OnInit |
| 02:39.08 | Harvan | What do you mean? It always returns nil? |
| 02:39.22 | Arrowmaster | if you dont want the addon to load on non hunters than that UnitClass check should be at the very top of the file |
| 02:39.38 | Arrowmaster | no the check works but the return does nothing |
| 02:39.45 | Arrowmaster | the addon will still load |
| 02:39.56 | mckenziemc1 | @describe considerator |
| 02:39.58 | Repo | mckenziemc1: No project found that matches 'considerator' |
| 02:40.25 | mckenziemc1 | @describe considerater |
| 02:40.26 | Repo | mckenziemc1: http://www.wowace.com/addons/considerater/. Considerater. Considers an item against all the items you have to determine whether or not it is an upgrade |
| 02:40.54 | Harvan | Alrighty. Then how do I tell the addon to stop loading at global scope? |
| 02:40.59 | Harvan | Just do a return? |
| 02:41.04 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 02:41.08 | Harvan | Got it. |
| 02:41.24 | Pneumatus | if select(2, UnitClass("player")) ~= "HUNTER" then return end |
| 02:41.26 | Pneumatus | or w/e |
| 02:41.53 | Arrowmaster | yeah that as the very first line of the file will keep it from loading for non hunters |
| 02:42.02 | Harvan | Cool. Thanks. |
| 02:42.04 | Harvan | Okay, testing. |
| 02:45.07 | Harvan | Hmm |
| 02:45.30 | Harvan | Now I'm getting a Lua error elsewhere, saying one of the tables in my options structure is nil. |
| 02:46.02 | Harvan | Think it's because I didn't update the defaults table. |
| 02:46.08 | Pneumatus | did you change your defaults table to shove everything into profile rather than global? |
| 02:46.34 | Arrowmaster | yeah and make sure you are accessing the profile table too |
| 02:46.48 | Harvan | local defaults = { |
| 02:46.48 | Harvan | Default = { |
| 02:46.48 | Harvan | SettingsVersion = "",-- Will be set in MigrateSettings block. |
| 02:46.59 | Harvan | self.db = LibStub("AceDB-3.0"):New("HHVars", defaults, true); |
| 02:46.59 | Harvan | HHConfig = self.db; |
| 02:47.05 | Pneumatus | change "Default" to "profile" |
| 02:47.24 | Pneumatus | i think |
| 02:48.04 | Arrowmaster | either change HHConfig = self.db; to HHConfig = self.db.profile; or change every place that uses HHConfig to use HHConfig.profile |
| 02:48.19 | Arrowmaster | the 2nd one is better because the 1st one will be bugged in a specific situation |
| 02:48.26 | Arrowmaster | unless you add some more code |
| 02:48.27 | Harvan | Okay, that got it |
| 02:48.38 | Harvan | What's that, arrow? |
| 02:49.12 | Pneumatus | or pastey again with what you have now, if its still not working :) |
| 02:49.22 | Harvan | No, it seems to be working now. |
| 02:49.30 | Harvan | I'm just curious as to what the situation is that Arrow was talking about. |
| 02:49.35 | Arrowmaster | hmm docs dont cover setting callbacks |
| 02:49.45 | Harvan | Gonna test the SavedVars |
| 02:49.46 | Pneumatus | db callbacks, Arrowmaster? |
| 02:49.50 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 02:50.27 | Pneumatus | its in the acedb tutorial |
| 02:50.29 | Arrowmaster | if a user changes the profile the HHConfig will point to the wrong table until they reload or relog, unless you add a callback to update it when that happens |
| 02:50.29 | Pneumatus | not the API page |
| 02:50.30 | Pneumatus | http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/ace-db-3-0-tutorial/ |
| 02:51.16 | Arrowmaster | Harvan: see the bottom of that page ^^^ |
| 02:51.17 | Harvan | Huh. That's why I was trying to use global in the first place. |
| 02:51.33 | Harvan | So that the settings didn't have to care about profiles. |
| 02:51.59 | Arrowmaster | just add that to your addon and inside the RefreshConfig just put HHConfig = self.db.profile; |
| 02:52.12 | Harvan | Also, question: |
| 02:52.13 | Harvan | HHVars = { |
| 02:52.13 | Harvan | ["profileKeys"] = { |
| 02:52.13 | Harvan | ["Harvan - Sen'jin"] = "Default", |
| 02:52.13 | Harvan | }, |
| 02:52.13 | Harvan | ["profiles"] = { |
| 02:52.14 | Harvan | ["Default"] = { |
| 02:52.14 | Harvan | ["DisableWhenSolo"] = true, |
| 02:52.21 | Harvan | That's in my SavedVariables now |
| 02:52.33 | Harvan | (among other things) |
| 02:52.33 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 02:52.44 | Harvan | If I log on to a different hunter, will it still be able to use those settings? |
| 02:52.51 | Arrowmaster | yes |
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| 02:53.12 | Harvan | Okay. And does changing a profile in a different addon have any effect on this one? |
| 02:53.12 | Pneumatus | when you log into another hunter you will get a new entry in profileKeys with the player - realm = Deafault |
| 02:53.18 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 02:53.46 | Harvan | Okay, then I don't really need to be concerned with changing profiles, since I have no code to do that here. |
| 02:54.03 | Pneumatus | the only time i've ever had to use callbacks for profile changes is for updating graphical elements with new settings |
| 02:54.07 | Repo | 10considerater: 03catamorfizm 07master * 1.3.0-11-ga5289f3 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 02:54.09 | Repo | a5289f3: a working default profile for destr warlocks |
| 02:54.10 | Repo | 207509e: don't check for epic meta gems |
| 02:54.27 | Harvan | (If I add support for that, then callbacks will be useful. :)) |
| 02:55.07 | Harvan | Okay, checking to see if my settings are being reloaded. |
| 02:55.15 | Arrowmaster | Pneumatus: well there is the specific case of assigning self.db.profile to another variable so you dont have to type it everywhere, but thats avoided by just not doing it |
| 02:55.28 | Pneumatus | yeh, i havnt ever done that :) |
| 02:55.30 | Harvan | Looks like they are. |
| 02:55.51 | Harvan | And yeah, I avoid that as well by aliasing self.db.profile to HHConfig |
| 02:56.16 | Harvan | So basically, I never use self.db.* directly after the initializer. |
| 02:56.49 | Harvan | (Parse for clarity: I never use [self.db.* directly] after the initializer) |
| 02:57.08 | Harvan | Cool, thanks for the help, guys. I appreciate it. |
| 02:57.16 | Arrowmaster | no the HHConfig = self.db.profile; is exactly what causing the issue that requires you to use callbacks (if had anywhere to let users change the profile) |
| 02:57.34 | Pneumatus | in which case, you will need to use callbacks - to avoid needing callbacks use self.db.profile everywhere |
| 02:57.42 | Arrowmaster | if you ever add the ability to change the profile you will need to add the callbacks |
| 02:57.50 | Harvan | Oh, I see. self.db.profile would change, but HHConfig would not. |
| 02:57.55 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 02:58.07 | Harvan | That's easy enough to solve - just reassign HHConfig in that callback. |
| 02:58.12 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 02:58.14 | Pneumatus | yes |
| 02:58.26 | Harvan | And yes, I see how that would be a problem. It's not an issue here, tho, since my code doesn't support multiple profiles. |
| 02:58.42 | Harvan | So I'll make sure to watch for that if I do end up supporting them in the future. :) |
| 02:58.52 | Arrowmaster | multiple profiles is easy to add support for though if you are using AceConfigDialog |
| 02:58.54 | Pneumatus | yeh, until you actually add a mechanism to allow the profile to be changed it's a non-issue |
| 02:59.12 | Harvan | *nod* So far, haven't had anyone ask for it. |
| 02:59.18 | Harvan | Most of my users only have one hunter. |
| 02:59.30 | Harvan | And most multi-hunter users I know play their hunters the same way. |
| 02:59.33 | Pneumatus | understandable |
| 02:59.41 | Pneumatus | druids on the other hand, you can never have enough of them! |
| 02:59.50 | Harvan | One class that doesn't need a whole lot of variability. :) |
| 02:59.51 | Arrowmaster | well right now with your current changes anybody that wants it and knows what they are doing could do it anyway by directly editing their saved vars to use a different profile |
| 03:00.14 | Harvan | Of course. And if they were to do that, I would just tell 'em they're doing something unsupported. |
| 03:00.37 | Pneumatus | they wouldn't be changing profile live in-game anyway, so it still wouldn't matter |
| 03:00.47 | Harvan | (Also, I have no problem with people modifying their own copies of the addon to do what they want - I do it myself with other addons, and that's how HunterHelper started anyway.) |
| 03:01.08 | Harvan | HunterHelper was an offshoot from ViperNotify. |
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| 03:12.14 | Harvan | So, quick question. |
| 03:12.24 | Harvan | ## SavedVariables: HHVars |
| 03:12.48 | Harvan | Does the WoW client itself just save whatever's in that variable to a file, or is AceDB handling that? |
| 03:12.58 | Arrowmaster | the wow client |
| 03:13.01 | Harvan | (When the client exits) |
| 03:13.02 | Harvan | Okay. |
| 03:13.34 | Harvan | So AceDB is managing that variable to contain only what's different between my current settings and my defaults. |
| 03:13.56 | Arrowmaster | yes AceDB does that right before logout |
| 03:14.10 | Harvan | Cool. Thanks. |
| 03:14.14 | Harvan | Gotta run. :) |
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| 03:30.59 | Gagorian | Do you gain mastery points from leveling up beyond 80 or just by items? |
| 03:31.10 | mojosdojo | just items |
| 03:39.59 | Gagorian | GetSpellInfo(name) probably still works only for spells in your spellbook, right? |
| 03:41.16 | Gagorian | Can any Mage/Warlock/Priest check for GetSpellInfo("Wizardry") / GetSpellInfo("Nethermancy") / GetSpellInfo("Mysticism") depending on your class to see if they return properly |
| 03:51.02 | quiescens | o.o |
| 03:53.38 | mckenziemc | yeah gag, i'll do that now |
| 03:57.54 | mckenziemc | do you need the actual return values or just confirmation that it returns values |
| 03:59.06 | mckenziemc | heh, blizzard misspelled the texture name: 'Interface\Icons\Spell_Holy_SpiritualGuidence' instead of -ance |
| 03:59.10 | mckenziemc | brb |
| 03:59.25 | mckenziemc | ping gagorian |
| 04:02.23 | Gagorian | Just confirmation is fine |
| 04:02.24 | Gagorian | Which it seems it does |
| 04:02.27 | Gagorian | And I assume the other returns are nil |
| 04:02.39 | Gagorian | mckenziemc: Thanks |
| 04:03.32 | Gagorian | (by other returns I mean other specializations are nil when you don't have them in your spellbook) |
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| 04:07.16 | Ingela | i'm tired of raid frames that isn't how i want them and lack configuration. How hard is it to make my own raid frames and just hardcode everything (no user settings basically)? |
| 04:07.41 | Ingela | is it over 9000 hours job or |
| 04:08.06 | quiescens | from scratch? |
| 04:08.19 | Ingela | yea or start from some other addon |
| 04:08.27 | Ingela | doesn't matter i just want 100% control |
| 04:08.59 | mckenziemc | what do you want it to look like? you could write a 'helper' addon that depends on a mainstream addon, but manually moves/sizes/configures everything |
| 04:09.04 | mckenziemc | that's what i'm doing with my Macaroon setup |
| 04:09.28 | Ingela | problme with that though si that i have to dive in to the code of the one who made the addon |
| 04:09.28 | Ingela | <.< |
| 04:10.09 | mckenziemc | yeah gagorian, for each class, GetSpellInfo on the appropriate spell for each class returns values, using it on the other spells gives zero returns |
| 04:10.39 | mckenziemc | ingela: well, you're gonna have to do something similar if you want to code it all yourself |
| 04:10.59 | Ingela | hmm true |
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| 04:15.00 | Ingela | but then mckenziemc if i'd do it from scratch, i could make it one step at a time and understand it a little bit more |
| 04:15.09 | Ingela | if you know waht i mean |
| 04:15.13 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r7678 Blackwing/Locales/deDE.lua: deDE fix (ticket 245). |
| 04:17.01 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03funkydude * r825 / (3 files in 2 directories): GrimBatol/Drahga: Add Fixate warning, fix verifyenable. |
| 04:18.15 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03MuffinManKen * r321 / (2 files in 2 directories): Added Flask of Enhancement |
| 04:18.16 | Repo | Recategorized Flask of the North |
| 04:18.17 | Repo | Added Sprouted Fronds |
| 04:24.01 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7679 BigWigs.toc: bump toc version |
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| 04:28.21 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r7680-release * r7680 : Tagging as r7680-release |
| 04:33.31 | mckenziemc | ingela: true |
| 04:34.24 | mckenziemc | you could also start with a helper addon, then gradually code replacement parts till you can do away with the base addon completely |
| 04:34.49 | Ingela | yeap |
| 04:34.53 | Ingela | i'll have to investigate! |
| 04:34.58 | Ingela | but eu servers are down so <.< |
| 04:45.25 | Repo | 10autocombatlogger (experimental): 03talryn1 * r6 AutoCombatLogger.lua: |
| 04:45.27 | Repo | Adding a few for non-existent zones and adding Blackwing Descent |
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| 04:51.15 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r700 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 04:51.16 | Repo | re-add a simplified chat throttle, checks the previous line, filters if duplicate. |
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| 05:40.57 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r826 / (5 files in 2 directories): RBC: Enable localization, |
| 05:40.58 | Repo | Shadowfang: Only load for heroic. |
| 05:43.32 | Torhal | Ingela: Sounds like a job for oUF |
| 05:43.56 | Ingela | doesn't oUF have poor documentation though |
| 05:47.39 | Torhal | It has forums, which are more documentation than any already-made raidframe AddOn which you'd be modifying has. |
| 05:48.01 | Ingela | sounds awesome |
| 05:48.02 | Torhal | Plus there are are oUF layouts which support raidframes - you could just pull that code out and work from that |
| 05:48.15 | Ingela | nice |
| 05:48.18 | Ingela | thanks! |
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| 07:19.52 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03Dys 04v2.1.0 * r414 : Tagging as v2.1.0: |
| 07:19.53 | Repo | * Initial pass for Cataclysm tradeskill information. |
| 07:19.54 | Repo | - Added new skills and component information. |
| 07:19.55 | Repo | - Modified some old skills that were updated. |
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| 07:29.17 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r712 Inspect/inspectui.lua: |
| 07:29.18 | Repo | Fix Ticket-137. Don't use Talented internal API in Talented_Inspect |
| 07:35.40 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r713 view.lua: |
| 07:35.41 | Repo | Check the whole template when updating a talent, not just the branch. |
| 07:35.42 | Repo | This prevents some from removing the 31st point from a template when other branches already have points. |
| 07:37.02 | Repo | 10deus-vox-encounters: 03Shefki 07master * v507-6-g5b4f251 Encounters/Throne/Encounters.lua: [+1 commit] Al'Akir (2): Add some cooldowns/warnings based on Shuang's work/logs. |
| 07:40.26 | mckenziemc | lua> nil and nil |
| 07:40.26 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: nil |
| 07:40.35 | mckenziemc | lua> false and false |
| 07:40.35 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: false |
| 07:41.13 | Shefki | lua> 1/0 |
| 07:41.13 | lua_bot | Shefki: inf |
| 07:41.33 | Shefki | lua> 1/0 and true |
| 07:41.33 | lua_bot | Shefki: true |
| 07:41.43 | mckenziemc | lua> nil and Shefki |
| 07:41.44 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: nil |
| 07:41.51 | Shefki | lua> 1/0 > 1/0 |
| 07:41.52 | lua_bot | Shefki: false |
| 07:42.00 | mckenziemc | O.o |
| 07:42.01 | Shefki | lua> 1/0 < 1/0 |
| 07:42.01 | lua_bot | Shefki: false |
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| 07:42.18 | Shefki | lua> 0/0 > 0/0 |
| 07:42.18 | lua_bot | Shefki: false |
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| 07:49.35 | Arrowmaster | lua> 0/0 == 0/0 |
| 07:49.36 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: false |
| 07:50.58 | mckenziemc | rofl |
| 07:52.27 | sbu | morgen |
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| 08:02.53 | mitch0 | yo |
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| 08:10.35 | RaydenUni | is there a mod that will filter what vendors show me, so i don't have to look at all the gear i can't wear? |
| 08:10.46 | RaydenUni | or gear i can, but is for a different class/spec? |
| 08:13.05 | Fisker | nom nom nom |
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| 08:16.09 | RaydenUni | found one |
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| 08:35.58 | mckenziemc | lua> Shefki == Arrowmaster |
| 08:35.58 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: true |
| 08:36.11 | mckenziemc | rofl |
| 08:38.28 | Kalroth | I knew it! |
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| 08:45.08 | Slaren | is there any downside to using AceDB-3.0 for storing large amounts of data (ie. combat log dumps) ? |
| 08:46.47 | mckenziemc | don't think so |
| 08:48.00 | mckenziemc | you might get a -marginal- performance boost while logged in if you used tables directly, but you'd use more memory / hard disk space and logging out would take slightly longer |
| 08:48.08 | mckenziemc | if i understand how acedb works |
| 08:48.58 | Slaren | mostly i am wondering if there any overhead for each key in the table |
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| 08:50.01 | mckenziemc | if there's already a non-default value stored in the field then there'd be no difference in performance either way (because of how lua works) |
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| 08:50.47 | mckenziemc | i doubt you'd get any worthwhile gains by -not- using acedb |
| 08:51.04 | mckenziemc | and you'd lose a lot of ease-of-use |
| 08:51.23 | Slaren | yeah, that's true |
| 08:51.43 | Slaren | but it might be a better idea to just use acedb for the settings and handle myself a different savedvariable for the bulk data |
| 08:51.51 | mckenziemc | if anything, using it should improve performance |
| 08:53.29 | mckenziemc | when you tell lua to grab a value out of a table, lua first checks if it's already in the table, grabs the value if it is |
| 08:53.49 | mckenziemc | acedb sets up a function that lua calls if the value's not in there, and acedb provides the default value |
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| 08:55.00 | mckenziemc | so you end up using less storage space, and lua won't even call the extra function unless the field is using the default value |
| 08:55.08 | Slaren | but i guess that at some point it also needs to traverse the entire table |
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| 08:55.41 | mckenziemc | so i suppose it's -theoretically- possible that acedb could be slower, if somebody ends up using every single default |
| 08:56.03 | mckenziemc | which is extremely unlikely |
| 08:57.02 | mckenziemc | actually, in that case the negative performance would only be for framerates (and likely minimal if you're not doing any constant processing) but logout time would be significantly quicker |
| 08:57.35 | mckenziemc | i mention logout time because if your addon stores a lot of data, wow will take forever to save it, which can be frustrating to users who have a bunch of addons |
| 08:57.50 | Slaren | why would it be quicker ? in this case, no defaults would be used |
| 08:59.17 | mckenziemc | well it really just depends on how you set things up |
| 08:59.54 | Slaren | it would be mostly combat log data |
| 09:00.04 | Slaren | slighly processed, but not that much |
| 09:00.29 | mckenziemc | meh don't worry about it, it's all theoretical 'worst case' stuff |
| 09:00.59 | mckenziemc | actual performance testing > making guesses about the performance methods |
| 09:01.17 | mckenziemc | and it likely won't be an issue anyway |
| 09:01.28 | Slaren | i am not sure - acedb seems to be designed to store addon settings |
| 09:01.31 | mckenziemc | performance of each approach* |
| 09:01.38 | mckenziemc | ~ace3 |
| 09:01.38 | purl | from memory, ace3 is an addon framework for World of Warcraft to make writing addons easier. The primary difference from Ace2 is to be more interoperable with as many frameworks as possible, allowing only bits and pieces to be chosen for addons, and no longer be a one megabyte monster. |
| 09:01.41 | Slaren | i would be storing megabytes of data, that i would need to access very quickly |
| 09:02.51 | mckenziemc | in that case i don't think i'm familiar enough with acedb to make any reliable suggestions |
| 09:04.24 | Slaren | the more i think about it really the best option seems to be to just use AceDB for the settings and my own savedvariable for this, because anyway, i dont' really need any of what AceDB provides for that data |
| 09:04.26 | Kalroth | ~aceofspades |
| 09:04.35 | mckenziemc | 'AceDB-3.0 manages the SavedVariables of your addon. It offers profile management, smart defaults and namespaces for modules.' -- description refers to savedvariables rather than settings, so i assume it's designed for any related use |
| 09:04.45 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 09:05.31 | mckenziemc | purl, ace3 is also http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/ |
| 09:05.31 | purl | mckenziemc: okay |
| 09:07.48 | mckenziemc | to any of the admins: i think there's a redirect issue on the site: 'wowace.com/home' redirects to 'http://www.com/home/' |
| 09:11.21 | mckenziemc | 'wowace.com/addons/ace3' also redirects to www.com, while 'wowace.com/addons/ace3/' (with the slash at the end) properly redirects to http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/ |
| 09:12.44 | mckenziemc | just to make sure they get alerted to that line: ping ackis Funkeh` kaelten nevcairiel sunshine` tem Torhal |
| 09:14.47 | Repo | 10squire2: 03Adirelle 07master * 1.1-beta-1 Localization.lua: [+1 commit] Locales updated. |
| 09:14.53 | Repo | 10squire2: 03Adirelle 041.1-beta-1 * a287a11 /: [new tag] Tagging as 1.1-beta-1. |
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| 09:34.29 | durcyn | it's been reported |
| 09:34.41 | durcyn | multiple times over a period of months |
| 09:34.56 | renchap | V'jy |
| 09:36.17 | Mikk | Slaren: that's certainly a 100% valid approach |
| 09:36.34 | Mikk | AceDB is mostly about settings and defaults and profiles, not raw data |
| 09:37.48 | Slaren | noted, thanks |
| 09:37.50 | Mikk | (indeed, there's no way to beat raw Lua tables for raw performance... not with anything written in Lua anyway =)) |
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| 09:50.05 | mckenziemc | Mikk: theres' no way to beat empty tables for time taken to serialize :D |
| 09:51.16 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol 04v6.01.02 * r3154 : Tagging as v6.01.02 |
| 09:51.57 | mckenziemc | assuming the table has to be there in the first place* |
| 09:54.33 | mckenziemc | durcyn: i should've searched instead of assuming it was new :( |
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| 10:01.48 | durcyn | mckenziemc: keep reporting it, there's been zero movement on it |
| 10:02.07 | mckenziemc | hehe |
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| 10:19.31 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/scrubbingui/. ScrubbingUI. Toriad (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
| 10:19.36 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/templar/. Templar. aquavette2k1 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
| 10:19.42 | Torhal | mckenziemc1: Reported! |
| 10:20.43 | mckenziemc1 | :O |
| 10:23.11 | mckenziemc | are dongle and libstub the same kind of thing? |
| 10:30.54 | mckenziemc | '## Interface: 11000' hehe |
| 10:30.59 | mckenziemc | i can tell this web article is old |
| 10:31.51 | Torhal | mckenziemc: Yes |
| 10:32.49 | Torhal | Awesome client bug: I did a LFD PUG, and when we were done I just left the instance. Two of the other party members also didn't disband. An hour later, I'm in Vashj'ir and I get a green from a mob - it lets me roll to DE :D |
| 10:33.09 | Fisker | what was the point in installing libraries seperately again? |
| 10:33.57 | Torhal | Two points, actually: Profiling - when a lib is installed as an AddOn, all resource usage is attributed to it instead of whichever AddOn loaded it last. |
| 10:34.15 | Torhal | Second reason is there is only one version to load instead of one per AddOn that uses it. |
| 10:34.20 | Torhal | Faster loads |
| 10:34.38 | Fisker | yeah i thought it was something like that |
| 10:34.49 | Fisker | just scratched my head over it being "not recommended" by the curse client |
| 10:35.09 | mckenziemc | + less wasted space on hard drive (which isn't really that big of a deal i guess) and less download bandwidth |
| 10:35.27 | mckenziemc | latter is very important to me personally, being on dialup :p |
| 10:35.34 | Torhal | Fisker: It isn't recommended because your average user shouldn't be aware that libs even exist. Their heads might ASPLODE. |
| 10:36.20 | mckenziemc | Fisker: support for it is pretty iffy, and if the user decides they don't want to use the curse client, they won't be happy to find out they have all these tiny things they (think they) have to update |
| 10:36.22 | mitch0 | and also because a lot of authors can't get their OptDeps right... |
| 10:36.24 | Fisker | angry cat is angry |
| 10:36.30 | mckenziemc | what mitch said |
| 10:36.39 | Repo | 10atramedes: 03Maat * r20 Atramedes.lua: only try to update the display when its actually shown |
| 10:37.12 | sbu | @describe atramedes |
| 10:37.13 | Repo | sbu: http://www.wowace.com/addons/atramedes/. Atramedes. Raid level sound warning for Atramedes. |
| 10:37.47 | Torhal | Fisker: I accidentally your |
| 10:37.57 | sbu | nice one Caleb| |
| 10:38.07 | mckenziemc | plus if you don't use an in-game addon manager, you have to manually enable all the libraries (well, not the first time, but if the user disables all addons temporarily...) |
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| 10:38.34 | Fisker | LOL |
| 10:38.37 | mckenziemc | even then, there's 'support issues' with in-game managers, since they can't read OptDeps |
| 10:38.42 | Fisker | oRA2 is higher rated than oRA3 |
| 10:38.45 | Fisker | lol'd |
| 10:39.01 | mckenziemc | i fisker'd |
| 10:41.52 | mckenziemc | lua> Torhal + Torhal |
| 10:41.52 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: luabot:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'Torhal' (a nil value) |
| 10:43.51 | mckenziemc | lua> string.reverse("cmeiznekcm :gnip") |
| 10:43.51 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: ping: mckenziemc |
| 10:46.28 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Gazmik * r322 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 10:46.29 | Repo | Added Pygmy Suckerfish and Murglesnout to inedible (but good for pets!) fish. |
| 10:50.52 | TNSe | Noooo |
| 10:50.56 | TNSe | Murglesnout! |
| 10:51.22 | mckenziemc | mgrlmgrlmgrlmgrlmgrlmgrlmgrlmgrl? |
| 10:51.44 | mckenziemc | forgot some more r's |
| 10:51.59 | mckenziemc | err, put them in the wrong place >< |
| 10:52.44 | Fisker | wroom wroom |
| 10:54.27 | Fisker | mitch0 |
| 10:55.11 | mitch0 | no |
| 10:59.39 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 10:59.45 | Fisker | then fuck you |
| 10:59.56 | Fisker | uninstalls bazooka from his ui remake |
| 11:00.06 | Fisker | jerkface |
| 11:00.06 | Fisker | :( |
| 11:00.21 | Fisker | no offense of course |
| 11:01.06 | mitch0 | it was too good for you anyway |
| 11:01.13 | mckenziemc | i wonder wow many pagehits www.com gets a month from the redirect issue >=O |
| 11:01.22 | mckenziemc | how many* |
| 11:03.45 | Fisker | naw mitch0 |
| 11:05.52 | ramoz | oh so its just not me who gets www.com/addons whenever i try wowace.com/addons? |
| 11:06.45 | Fisker | sounds like someone can't internet |
| 11:10.05 | mckenziemc | nah apparently it's an issue with wowace |
| 11:11.07 | Fisker | did i say you couldn't internet mckenziemc? |
| 11:11.38 | mckenziemc | i was responding to ramoz |
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| 11:12.07 | mckenziemc | ~fisker-- |
| 11:12.16 | Fisker | fuck you mckenziemc |
| 11:12.22 | Fisker | :( |
| 11:12.26 | mckenziemc | lololol |
| 11:14.11 | Fisker | i once killed a guy mckenziemc |
| 11:14.21 | Fisker | i would not tempt fate |
| 11:14.25 | sbu | WE KNOW FISKER |
| 11:14.27 | sbu | we know... |
| 11:14.27 | mckenziemc | i once fiskered a trout, fisker |
| 11:14.35 | sbu | ~~~fisker |
| 11:22.38 | mckenziemc | ~karma-- |
| 11:22.49 | mckenziemc | karma karma |
| 11:22.56 | mckenziemc | ~karma karma |
| 11:22.56 | purl | karma has karma of 4 |
| 11:23.08 | mckenziemc | ~karma purl |
| 11:23.08 | purl | purl has karma of 42 |
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| 11:40.38 | Caleb| | ~seen vhaar |
| 11:40.45 | purl | i haven't seen 'vhaar', Caleb| |
| 11:40.47 | Caleb| | ~seen vhaarr |
| 11:40.47 | purl | vhaarr <~folk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Rabbit/vhaarr> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 14h 58m 32s ago, saying: 'didn't warrant a nerf anyway, tanks should be good'. |
| 11:41.03 | Fisker | mitch0 |
| 11:41.06 | Fisker | i need more broker feeds |
| 11:44.43 | mitch0 | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/categories/data-broker.aspx |
| 11:44.51 | mitch0 | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat108.html |
| 11:44.58 | mitch0 | http://wiki.github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/addons-using-ldb |
| 11:45.28 | Fisker | no mitch0 |
| 11:45.35 | Fisker | you will not succeed |
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| 11:52.42 | Fisker | hey Megalon |
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| 12:42.27 | dieck | Hi! Is there any replacement for GetNumTradeSkills, to get the professions the player? |
| 12:43.08 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Maat * r7681 / (3 files in 3 directories): Cho'gall add berserk timer |
| 12:43.09 | Repo | Nefarian add ShadowBlaze timer, try and fix some phase triggers |
| 12:43.11 | Repo | Tip fix Ensidia server, and add a few more tips |
| 12:50.48 | mckenziemc | GetProfessions i think |
| 12:51.02 | mckenziemc | and GetProfessionInfo |
| 12:54.46 | dieck | hm, couldnt find it in wowwiki or wowpedia -- is there any "better" directory as of now? |
| 12:58.42 | Repo | 10wowmouse (experimental): 03tlundse 041.0 * r3 : Tagging as release 1.0 |
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| 12:59.59 | Mikk | @describe wowmouse |
| 13:00.02 | Repo | Mikk: http://www.wowace.com/addons/wowmouse/. WoWMouse. When WOW fails to detect the SteelSeries WOW mouse, try to re-enable it |
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| 13:00.20 | Mikk | dieck: wowprogramming |
| 13:02.08 | dieck | mckenziemc: looks good. though GetProfessions returns 8, and GetProfessionInfo(x) works for x=2 to x=11, but I think I'll just have to read up on the api :) |
| 13:02.12 | dieck | Mikk: thanks! |
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| 13:03.54 | mckenziemc | wowprogramming doesn't have info either last i checked |
| 13:04.12 | Mikk | feel free to add to wowpedia when you figure it out - that's how stuff ends up there! |
| 13:04.21 | mckenziemc | or, purl said it didn't |
| 13:04.44 | dieck | mckenziemc: but at least it lists the api function |
| 13:05.29 | dieck | Mikk: I did that on several occasions for wowwiki, until I heard many people migrated to wowpedia |
| 13:05.55 | dieck | I just detest the wowpedia search function, but I made myself a firefox shortcut to google search for wowpedia site :) |
| 13:06.10 | KriLL3 | yeah it's horrible |
| 13:07.37 | Mikk | mmm but the wowpedia search is at least fixable |
| 13:07.49 | Mikk | wowwiki being abused by money horny wikia is not |
| 13:07.52 | Mikk | hence the move |
| 13:08.14 | KriLL3 | what did wikia do btw? |
| 13:09.29 | mitch0 | they raped assange |
| 13:09.36 | mitch0 | or something like that |
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| 13:11.47 | KriLL3 | don't you mean sex by surprise? |
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| 13:15.21 | Repo | 10grid-status-raid-debuff: 03azelkeeber * r286 Core.lua: -Debuff detctor works everytime(not only a session). |
| 13:15.22 | Repo | -You can import debuff by spellID |
| 13:18.31 | Brybry | my only gripe with wowpedia is that wowwiki is easier/faster to type =x |
| 13:19.07 | KriLL3 | yeah and the name is less elegant imo |
| 13:20.50 | KriLL3 | btw anyone else agrees that archeology digs appear only when you've dug all 3 from one and if you do one appears on the same continent? (Kalimdor/EasternK/Northrend/Outland) |
| 13:21.46 | KriLL3 | thus if you got all troll on a continent where dwarf locations are and you want dwarf you need to dig those troll junk heaps first until a dwarf one shows uo |
| 13:21.48 | KriLL3 | *up |
| 13:23.48 | Mikk | KriLL3: pissed off enough wikis by an enforced piss-poor skin that dozens upon dozens of wikis went in search for new hosts, wowwiki among them |
| 13:24.05 | Mikk | and ofc they refused to let go of wowwiki.com even though the whole community was leaving |
| 13:24.12 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 13:24.32 | Mikk | they even have a web site dedicated to hating them |
| 13:24.35 | Mikk | awa.shoutwiki.com |
| 13:24.37 | KriLL3 | yeah lame to dictate how sites look |
| 13:24.39 | Mikk | "anti wikia alliance" |
| 13:24.53 | Mikk | mmm the 1024 fixed width with half of it reserved for ads was kickass |
| 13:25.05 | KriLL3 | well adblock |
| 13:25.08 | sylvanaar_work | ads are awesome |
| 13:25.25 | KriLL3 | ads? what ads? there are ads on the internet? =P |
| 13:25.26 | Mikk | adblock doesn't exactly change the layout |
| 13:25.43 | Mikk | wowwiki often uses infoboxes in the topright corner |
| 13:25.45 | sylvanaar_work | i like the new things they put when you are running adblock that say "please whitelist our site" |
| 13:25.49 | KriLL3 | no but stylish can, granted that's not a good solution |
| 13:25.56 | mckenziemc | i just use noscript :D |
| 13:25.57 | Mikk | that along with their new fixed width + space for ads meant that there was space for like 3 words of actual content per line |
| 13:26.04 | KriLL3 | mckenziemc: I use noscript & adblock |
| 13:26.07 | sylvanaar_work | people still use noscript? |
| 13:26.13 | KriLL3 | sylvanaar_work: yeah |
| 13:26.21 | sylvanaar_work | noscript + web 2.0 = nowork |
| 13:26.27 | KriLL3 | just enable what you need |
| 13:26.32 | KriLL3 | or allow root directory etc |
| 13:26.36 | Mikk | "web 2.0" snork |
| 13:26.40 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 13:26.46 | KriLL3 | I allow first party JS, but not third |
| 13:26.54 | KriLL3 | say same domain as the site, but not some other domain |
| 13:27.11 | KriLL3 | and manually enable stuff when needed |
| 13:27.15 | Mikk | that sounds sane idd |
| 13:27.21 | KriLL3 | that third party JS is evil |
| 13:27.38 | KriLL3 | most common malware vector atm |
| 13:27.53 | KriLL3 | third party ads with no content restrictions that can hold JS or whatever |
| 13:28.00 | mckenziemc | why -wouldn't- people use nocript? |
| 13:28.13 | KriLL3 | you're visiting a reputable site but part of the code is pulled directly from some random and most likely shady source |
| 13:28.14 | mckenziemc | ~s/noc/nosc/ |
| 13:28.15 | sylvanaar_work | because i had to whitelist almost every site |
| 13:28.35 | KriLL3 | sylvanaar_work: yeah that would be annoying, you can configure noscript to allow JS from the same domain etc |
| 13:28.43 | mckenziemc | not a big deal to me |
| 13:28.58 | KriLL3 | that way you don't need to whitelist everything |
| 13:29.10 | mckenziemc | although, it's great for me because blocking JS on random sites makes them download much quicker on dialup :p |
| 13:29.17 | sylvanaar_work | that might be a good idea KriLL3 |
| 13:29.27 | sylvanaar_work | dialup? |
| 13:29.41 | sylvanaar_work | you live in bfe? |
| 13:29.50 | mckenziemc | ? |
| 13:30.04 | sylvanaar_work | you dont have high-speed internet? |
| 13:30.08 | arkanes | damn there's a lot of downtime lately |
| 13:30.10 | KriLL3 | last time I used dialup I had windows 95 |
| 13:30.11 | mckenziemc | can't get it here |
| 13:30.17 | sylvanaar_work | where? |
| 13:30.30 | mckenziemc | sierra nevada foothills, california |
| 13:31.16 | mckenziemc | it's available to houses a couple miles away but i'm on the side of the ridge and the neighborhood is too small for AT&T to care about extending dsl |
| 13:31.36 | mckenziemc | and comcast won't go more than 300 ft from the driveway |
| 13:31.40 | KriLL3 | the joys of a monopoly |
| 13:31.57 | mckenziemc | last time i tried satellite it got poor reception |
| 13:32.08 | KriLL3 | satellite also has epic lag |
| 13:32.18 | KriLL3 | wireless communications to space and back |
| 13:32.25 | KriLL3 | would be useless for wow |
| 13:32.35 | mckenziemc | well, satellite vs dialup..... |
| 13:32.37 | mckenziemc | negative |
| 13:32.49 | mckenziemc | my latency is the same as it would be on satellite and it's playable |
| 13:32.58 | KriLL3 | btw this might be a stupid question, but with the great wall blocking mulgore, how do you get in? without flying |
| 13:32.58 | mitch0 | isn't satellite really sat + dialup? that is, only downlink comes from sat? |
| 13:32.58 | mckenziemc | bandwidth is the issue |
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| 13:33.18 | mckenziemc | you can walk around the north side of the wall |
| 13:33.40 | KriLL3 | ah like the ashenvale/barrens wall? =P didn't stop anyone |
| 13:34.06 | mckenziemc | mitch0: no |
| 13:34.41 | KriLL3 | actually you can go around it on both sides |
| 13:35.09 | KriLL3 | not immediately apparent you can though |
| 13:35.22 | KriLL3 | they should make it open for horde characters or something like that |
| 13:36.00 | KriLL3 | hmm is the reason why it's closed because southern barrens is no longer where you go after mulgore? too high level? |
| 13:36.14 | KriLL3 | I guess you get sent to the northen barrens on a flightpath on some quest now |
| 13:39.29 | Repo | 10ahsearch: 03kunda * r98 / (4 files in 1 directory): added button to hide cat/sq frames in config mode |
| 13:39.57 | Repo | 10professionsvault: 03oscarucb 043.7 * r160 : Tagging as 3.7 |
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| 14:04.35 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp 07master * 2.0.5-92-ga6b49d6 Scanner.lua: [+1 commit] Fix the cooking tradekill link |
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| 14:07.29 | Repo | 10libfail-2-0 (experimental): 03Maat * r18 LibFail-2.0.lua: (Message trimmed by 4 lines) |
| 14:07.30 | Repo | Add: |
| 14:07.31 | Repo | Cho'gall Blaze |
| 14:07.32 | Repo | Cho'gall Corrupting Crash |
| 14:07.33 | Repo | Fix: |
| 14:10.36 | KriLL3 | any point in keeping soulbound items that teach you pets/mounts btw? |
| 14:10.44 | KriLL3 | already know em |
| 14:11.19 | Repo | 10libfail-2-0 (experimental): 03Maat * r19 LibFail-2.0.lua: omnotron barrier lets not allow nill unitid |
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| 14:24.59 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.6-beta-4-6-g4e5a416 / (5 files in 1 directory): [+6 commits] (2 truncated) |
| 14:25.00 | Repo | 4e5a416: Locales updated. |
| 14:25.01 | Repo | 25d1b7d: Use dropdown menu for tristate toggles. |
| 14:25.02 | Repo | 8f0e33c: Typo. |
| 14:25.03 | Repo | ce9a255: Removed Rude Interruption display from Pummel and Shield Bash, since they should display interruptible spells (ticket #182). |
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| 14:32.58 | Dark_Elf | bah their doing maintenance today |
| 14:44.50 | Dark_Elf | brb reboot |
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| 14:51.01 | pompy | full maintennance on a wednesday f or US, thats a first |
| 14:51.43 | Repo | 10alttab: 03Ackis 07master * v1.61-1-g0ba0d90 Docs/Main.txt: [+1 commit] Update main page. |
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| 14:58.05 | KriLL3 | the EU didn't have maintenance, just rolling restarts |
| 14:58.35 | KriLL3 | anyone btw got a link to a quick list of what CCs different classes have and what they work on? can't for the life of me remember |
| 14:58.39 | Fisker | kagaro |
| 14:58.40 | Fisker | my man |
| 14:59.25 | Fisker | kagaro my woman |
| 14:59.35 | kadrahil | fisker i finished deepholm last night |
| 14:59.48 | kadrahil | it was cool |
| 14:59.52 | kadrahil | the end |
| 15:00.10 | kadrahil | fisker did you like my short story |
| 15:02.13 | Fisker | ok |
| 15:02.16 | Fisker | yeah |
| 15:02.17 | Fisker | it was neat |
| 15:02.41 | Fisker | the best part is that you didn't leave the story up to interpretation or unanswered questions |
| 15:02.56 | kadrahil | working as intended |
| 15:05.32 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/store/author-reward-points/ by Ackis |
| 15:06.49 | Fisker | KriLL3 sure they're not bta? |
| 15:07.14 | KriLL3 | ? |
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| 15:21.59 | Fisker | binds to account |
| 15:24.06 | Shirik | binds to your face |
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| 15:28.07 | Ackis | binds his fist to ur face |
| 15:29.01 | Repo | 10grid-status-raid-debuff: 03azelkeeber * r287 Core.lua: -You can link raid debuff to chatting channel |
| 15:29.02 | Repo | -Detector on is default |
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| 15:36.28 | Fisker | fuck your mom Shirik |
| 15:39.23 | ThiefMaster | anyone knows which plugins for 'GnomeWorks TradeSkill Frame' exist? couldn't find a list.. but in some comment on curse somebody mentioned plugins.. |
| 15:45.29 | KriLL3 | Fisker: no soulbound |
| 15:50.00 | koaschten | hmm anyone know a way to get to tol barad with a non lvl85 char? |
| 15:50.15 | nevcairiel | the portal is the only way on the island |
| 15:50.39 | koaschten | no chance on getting ported or just flying over there from vash ir or the worgen start zone? |
| 15:50.39 | nevcairiel | tried flying there, but where its supposed to be on the map is just nothing |
| 15:50.49 | koaschten | that sucks :( |
| 15:50.49 | nevcairiel | its probably instanced |
| 15:51.00 | nevcairiel | porting might work |
| 15:51.04 | koaschten | wanted to bring my skinner over there for the crocolisks |
| 15:51.06 | nevcairiel | but whats on there for you? |
| 15:51.29 | koaschten | lots of free leather when people do the tol barad daily ;) |
| 15:51.41 | koaschten | with the kill crocolisk in the combat zone of tol barad |
| 15:53.41 | KriLL3 | Fisker: example: http://www.wowhead.com/item=44223#comments |
| 15:53.48 | KriLL3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:54.00 | KriLL3 | I used it, so I know the mount, and the item remains |
| 15:54.02 | KriLL3 | and it's soulbound |
| 15:56.47 | KriLL3 | armor or agi cloak enchant for a tanking bear? |
| 15:57.08 | KriLL3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/Enchantments_by_slot has nothing on cata enchants btw :\ |
| 15:57.36 | Ackis | KriLL3: add them to it |
| 15:57.48 | KriLL3 | I'm not an enchanter |
| 15:58.20 | KriLL3 | can't find cata enchants anywhere on wowpedia |
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| 15:58.54 | Parnic | http://www.wowhead.com/spells=11.333?filter=minrs=450;cr=20;crs=1;crv=0 |
| 15:59.14 | Ackis | KriLL3: arl DB has them in it as well if you wanted to read the db code /shrug |
| 15:59.25 | KriLL3 | arl db? |
| 15:59.30 | Ackis | ~arl |
| 15:59.30 | purl | i heard arl is a poorly named, poorly developed, poorly written add-on, developed by Ackis. It will scan your recipes and tell you which are missing, where to acquire them from (vendor, trainer, etc) and what skill level they are. Do not join #arl for more information. |
| 15:59.46 | Parnic | @describe ackisrecipelist |
| 15:59.47 | Repo | Parnic: No project found that matches 'ackisrecipelist' |
| 15:59.53 | Parnic | sigh |
| 15:59.53 | Ackis | slug is arl |
| 15:59.57 | Ackis | @describe arl |
| 15:59.59 | Repo | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Ackis Recipe List is an addon which will scan your trade skills and provide information on how to obtain recipes. It works fo... |
| 16:00.08 | Parnic | man that thing is poorly-named. |
| 16:00.12 | Ackis | afk shredding docs |
| 16:00.14 | Ackis | agrees |
| 16:00.33 | KriLL3 | no new agi enchant? :< |
| 16:00.40 | nevcairiel | on what |
| 16:00.45 | Parnic | the new cloak enchant is crit |
| 16:00.49 | KriLL3 | no "Enchant Cloak - major agility" on AH either... |
| 16:01.03 | KriLL3 | tanks don't need crit that much |
| 16:01.08 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: cloak as said |
| 16:02.18 | koaschten | ok getting a lvl 81 ported there works |
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| 16:02.37 | koaschten | but there is an awesome closed gate there if the other faction has it -.- |
| 16:02.40 | nevcairiel | major agility seems really sub-par as an enchant |
| 16:02.56 | nevcairiel | get crit or protection, imho .) |
| 16:03.37 | koaschten | tanks take cloak -> armor dont they? |
| 16:05.08 | Ackis | Parnic: Assassins Creed Legacy has some Christmas stuff on it if you care |
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| 16:05.29 | Parnic | ackis: i quit playing that when i realized everything it gave out was crap |
| 16:05.41 | Parnic | 75 xp for my assassins every 4 hours...screw that |
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| 16:06.08 | Ackis | lol |
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| 16:06.42 | arkanes_ | KriLL3: theres a 250 armor enchant |
| 16:07.10 | koaschten | yup as i said, armor |
| 16:12.16 | KriLL3 | done, but man, cloak enchants suck |
| 16:12.33 | nevcairiel | be a caster, 50 int is cool |
| 16:13.08 | KriLL3 | weird that there are no good physical dps/tank enchants |
| 16:14.29 | Parnic | crit is great for physical dps and armor is great for tanks. just because there's no agility doesn't mean there's no 'good' enchant :) |
| 16:15.10 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp 07master * 2.0.5-94-g9d01e8b / (4 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 16:15.11 | Repo | 9d01e8b: TheTailoring database now includes all the recipes added in Cataclysm. |
| 16:15.12 | Repo | a44914c: Add some new vendors/trainers |
| 16:15.21 | Vonhinten | I dunno, 50 int is waaaay better than 50 crit relative |
| 16:15.38 | Vonhinten | primary stats are like 2x better |
| 16:15.40 | KriLL3 | and it's very little armor |
| 16:15.57 | KriLL3 | good stats but much lower value, and yeah not primary stats |
| 16:16.16 | KriLL3 | agi gives me dodge, ap and crit, and ap/crit helps tanking as well now |
| 16:16.38 | Parnic | which sucks because now bears are rolling against my rogue :P |
| 16:16.49 | KriLL3 | we've always done that |
| 16:16.56 | KriLL3 | feral gear is rogue gear |
| 16:17.01 | Vonhinten | pretty much always have, except for neck/ring/trinket |
| 16:17.09 | KriLL3 | yeah we used to need str |
| 16:17.11 | Vonhinten | and weapons |
| 16:17.12 | KriLL3 | don't anymore |
| 16:17.16 | Parnic | usually there was an item in the same slot availbable that had dodge or str |
| 16:17.26 | nevcairiel | back in classic and BC, we had tanking leather |
| 16:17.29 | Vonhinten | nah, not for an expansion :) |
| 16:17.33 | nevcairiel | cats always rolled on rogue gear, though |
| 16:17.37 | KriLL3 | well agi helped mitigation earlier also |
| 16:17.39 | KriLL3 | so you'd go for dodge over str |
| 16:17.52 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: naw not in classic =P |
| 16:18.07 | KriLL3 | feral gear didn't exist until BC |
| 16:18.12 | Vonhinten | agi was > stam at a cetain gear level for bears in wrath even |
| 16:18.58 | Parnic | cats of course. that's why i said bears :) |
| 16:19.46 | kadrahil | bearaclysm |
| 16:20.00 | nevcairiel | KriLL3: http://www.wowhead.com/item=19405 |
| 16:20.01 | Vonhinten | wrath was busted, rolling against rogues, hunters, enh shaman, ferals... and four-stat-plate-hating-warriors... |
| 16:20.02 | nevcairiel | feral gear |
| 16:20.03 | nevcairiel | clearly! |
| 16:20.19 | nevcairiel | also, from classic =) |
| 16:20.20 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: yeah well it was rare... |
| 16:20.32 | KriLL3 | I remember an str/stam bracer dropping in MC |
| 16:20.52 | KriLL3 | they sharded it almost before I could bid on it |
| 16:21.04 | KriLL3 | no one took feral seriously back then |
| 16:21.12 | Vonhinten | or ret |
| 16:21.21 | Vonhinten | until AQ40 gear came out |
| 16:21.23 | KriLL3 | they were healbots as well? |
| 16:21.25 | nevcairiel | feral was not serious back then, it could not compete for anything |
| 16:21.33 | KriLL3 | yeah I know |
| 16:21.48 | KriLL3 | couldn't tank or physical dps |
| 16:22.02 | Vonhinten | or boomkin |
| 16:22.03 | nevcairiel | neither was balance really |
| 16:22.06 | KriLL3 | don't remember if balance was ok but I doubt it |
| 16:22.09 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 16:22.09 | Vonhinten | it wasn't |
| 16:22.15 | nevcairiel | we had a boomkin tag along in AQ40 |
| 16:22.20 | KriLL3 | I remember leveling as balance/resto and it took an age |
| 16:22.23 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis 07master * 2.0.5-95-g3a82331 Docs/CHANGES.txt: [+1 commit] Update changelog. |
| 16:22.43 | KriLL3 | starfire, root, moonfire, wrath wrath wrath |
| 16:22.44 | Vonhinten | took forever to level my ret pally too |
| 16:22.50 | KriLL3 | re-root, heal, repeat |
| 16:22.57 | kadrahil | re-toot |
| 16:23.30 | KriLL3 | I played near 24/7 when wow launched and hit 60 a week behind most players =P |
| 16:23.57 | KriLL3 | oh and GW > vanilla cat |
| 16:24.00 | kadrahil | they all played 24/7 and not near it |
| 16:24.12 | KriLL3 | kadrahil: well I slept some |
| 16:24.39 | kadrahil | i can't not sleep anymore, i'm getting too old for the all night marathons |
| 16:24.55 | KriLL3 | same, I can do that 2 days or so then I'm a zombie |
| 16:25.09 | kadrahil | i'm usually nodding off by 3am |
| 16:25.17 | kadrahil | it was easy back in college |
| 16:25.22 | KriLL3 | I can't do the 4-5 day LAN party with cat naps anymore |
| 16:25.36 | KriLL3 | carrying 20'' CRTs and big towers... |
| 16:25.56 | KriLL3 | and sleeping in a sleeping bag on a cold concrete floor under the tables |
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| 16:26.11 | KriLL3 | with only pizza to live on |
| 16:26.15 | KriLL3 | and jolt ofc |
| 16:26.18 | kadrahil | i pulled several all nighters in a row in college to get my realm first 80 DK achievement |
| 16:26.24 | kadrahil | last time i ever do something like that |
| 16:26.30 | nevcairiel | only pizza for a weekend isnt all that bad |
| 16:26.38 | kadrahil | couch pizza |
| 16:26.42 | Vonhinten | I pulled all-nighters leveling in DAoC... not wow |
| 16:26.51 | nevcairiel | I tried for cata |
| 16:26.54 | Vonhinten | Out by the Fin trees |
| 16:26.57 | nevcairiel | i got stuck on some bugged quest |
| 16:27.00 | nevcairiel | then went to sleep |
| 16:27.01 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 16:27.02 | kadrahil | lol |
| 16:27.16 | kadrahil | i had to work at cata launch, so i couldn't level for 3 days straight |
| 16:27.17 | nevcairiel | Wasnt fixed when i woke up, so still had to skip zone |
| 16:27.38 | kadrahil | i got to 83 by the time i had to quit for my wedding |
| 16:27.49 | kadrahil | (2 days before the wedding mind you) |
| 16:27.52 | nevcairiel | psh, always this real life |
| 16:28.12 | kadrahil | :P |
| 16:28.20 | nevcairiel | congrats btw :P |
| 16:28.22 | kadrahil | thanks |
| 16:28.42 | kadrahil | my wife plays wow too, but we're both too busy right now to finish leveling :/ |
| 16:28.48 | arkanes_ | just need to explain to your wife that deepholm is a *great* place for a wedding |
| 16:28.53 | nevcairiel | meh, mouse scrolling is broken in chrome again |
| 16:28.53 | kadrahil | rofl |
| 16:29.03 | arkanes_ | very pictureesque |
| 16:29.25 | arkanes_ | works for me, and I just updated like 30 seconds ago |
| 16:29.28 | kadrahil | so while you all were grinding away at quests |
| 16:29.39 | kadrahil | i was lounging by a poolside bar at a 5 star all inclusive resort in cancun |
| 16:29.42 | kadrahil | right on the beach |
| 16:29.54 | kadrahil | drinking free alcohol for a week |
| 16:30.02 | nevcairiel | apparently only my smoothscroll extension got broken by the update |
| 16:30.03 | nevcairiel | oh well |
| 16:30.41 | nevcairiel | sleep deprevation has some of the same effects as alcohol, once you get over the tiredness |
| 16:32.05 | kadrahil | after long periods of sleep deprevation energy comes in short bursts for me |
| 16:32.23 | kadrahil | i'll get about 30 minutes of energy and then crash again, over and over |
| 16:32.27 | arkanes_ | I love windows, and vs2010, and hotfixes |
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| 16:32.40 | nevcairiel | combine it with physical exhaustion, and you'll have the most fun |
| 16:32.45 | kadrahil | lol |
| 16:32.45 | arkanes_ | especially how a 30k hotfix patch has been "installing" for 5 minutes now |
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| 16:34.14 | nevcairiel | seriously! Me and some guys, we organize lan partys, and at the end of the weekend, we all had barely slept, and cleaned up a pretty big hall, and we had so much fun :p |
| 16:34.40 | kadrahil | i never went to a real lan party |
| 16:34.45 | kadrahil | living in the dorms in college was close enough |
| 16:34.55 | kadrahil | the entire hall would be playing counterstrike at the same time |
| 16:35.13 | KriLL3 | heh we did that after hours in the computer rooms in highschool |
| 16:35.18 | kadrahil | i quit CS when they nerfed bunny hopping :( |
| 16:35.49 | nevcairiel | can't compare that with 800 people in one huge room :) |
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| 16:36.00 | kadrahil | true |
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| 16:36.34 | nevcairiel | too bad the fast internet somewhat killed the lan party mood in people, so we just do smaller and/or special ones now |
| 16:36.58 | kadrahil | with fiber links |
| 16:37.01 | nevcairiel | back when we started, when everyone was still on dialup, now that was the times |
| 16:37.04 | kadrahil | to make them extra fast? |
| 16:37.17 | kadrahil | i remember playing q3a on dialup |
| 16:37.23 | kadrahil | not even that, q3test |
| 16:37.35 | kadrahil | railgun sniping with 500 pings |
| 16:37.42 | kadrahil | or 1k |
| 16:37.54 | kadrahil | you'd have to lead by like 30 yards |
| 16:39.28 | nevcairiel | and the guy had to run a straight line :P |
| 16:40.30 | kadrahil | yes |
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| 17:10.26 | Fisker | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
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| 17:17.55 | wink | mhm, Gibble isn't here, right? |
| 17:22.05 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis 07rewrite * 1.0.5-23-g4c29fbf core.lua: [+1 commit] We might actually scan shit now. It'll probably blow up, but hey, it's progress. |
| 17:24.14 | groktar | mmm i just discovered mysql case statements |
| 17:24.25 | groktar | i like that this is actually readable, unlike nested ifs |
| 17:29.25 | Fisker | kagaro my friend |
| 17:32.28 | Parnic | my ubuntu box has some nasty clock skew going on...guess it's time to cron a time update |
| 17:32.59 | kadrahil | make a cron job run every single second |
| 17:33.02 | kadrahil | to call ntpdate |
| 17:33.06 | Parnic | good idea |
| 17:33.17 | kadrahil | thanks |
| 17:33.22 | durcyn | don't do anything smart like run openntpd |
| 17:33.36 | kadrahil | that would be counter ubuntuitive |
| 17:33.42 | kadrahil | see what i did there |
| 17:34.19 | Parnic | i logged in to reboot it for a kernel update...after the reboot when i logged in again, my "last" login time was 5 minutes in the future :P |
| 17:34.28 | kadrahil | nice |
| 17:34.44 | kadrahil | i've actually noticed time skew in wow with my time /played |
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| 17:34.50 | kadrahil | and i can't explain it, and neither could a GM when i ticketed it |
| 17:35.11 | kadrahil | because when i originally leveled my DK and got the realm first 80 |
| 17:35.42 | Repo | 10grid-status-raid-debuff: 03azelkeeber * r288 / (3 files in 3 directories): -remove debuffs of BC and WotLK |
| 17:35.48 | kadrahil | it took me 5 physical days to get there, so time /played at 80 should have always been 5 days less than the total time /played |
| 17:36.02 | kadrahil | but over the years it grew |
| 17:36.17 | kadrahil | by the end of cata there was a 12 day difference |
| 17:36.28 | kadrahil | explain that one |
| 17:36.52 | kadrahil | probably just server clock skew over the years |
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| 17:38.01 | wink | durcyn: that is kind of new and fancy though, I'm not sure I don't have some ancient debian box still with a ntpdate-cronjob |
| 17:38.19 | kadrahil | is it still running debian 2.0 |
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| 17:38.46 | Repo | abe3d4c: Merge branch 'master' of git.wowace.com:wow/arl/mainline |
| 17:38.46 | Repo | 4945be0: Removed some quests |
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| 17:41.22 | durcyn | wink: openntpd may be, but old-broken-ntpd existed for quite a while before it |
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| 17:42.35 | wink | just sayin, "ntpdate" now tells you to get a ntpd running |
| 17:42.47 | wink | which used to be not the case some time ago |
| 17:44.13 | durcyn | well, something like rdate can be useful for initial setting on boot |
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| 17:55.57 | Fisker | you could just install windows though durcyn |
| 17:56.18 | durcyn | that's a great idea |
| 18:01.08 | Fisker | hey |
| 18:01.13 | Fisker | you want free gaems? |
| 18:03.47 | Slaren | kagaro: i am having the same problem in baradin hold than what happened in throne of the four winds |
| 18:03.52 | Slaren | returns level 1 |
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| 18:38.15 | Vonhinten | So, I just downloaded and installed Cata fresh on my laptop... total size under 16GB... |
| 18:38.46 | Vonhinten | why is it that my main machine's wow folder is 28GB |
| 18:41.57 | nevcairiel | there is 10gb of cache in there |
| 18:42.02 | nevcairiel | your laptop will grow too |
| 18:43.21 | Vonhinten | lol, if there's cache that's 2/3's the size of the assets themselves, that's some seriously shithouse deployment |
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| 18:55.44 | syeren | Could anyone name some addon(s) that syncs with raid members? Looking to look at some samples of code. |
| 18:56.39 | Fisker | try libhealcomm |
| 19:11.26 | ulic | any zhTW, zhCN, or koKR translators about? |
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| 19:31.01 | quiescens | moo |
| 19:40.52 | ulic | actually it might just be a string format question, in the example "%2$d blah %1$s blah", does the 2$ and 1$ indicate the position in which the values are actually being passed instead of accepting the default order? |
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| 19:59.02 | Repo | Fix not updating duration mid-swing. |
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| 20:02.57 | KriLL3 | why aren't the load screens widescreen yet? :< |
| 20:03.51 | durcyn | what's the cost-benefit ratio for blizzard in caring about load screen aspect ratio, exactly |
| 20:03.52 | nevcairiel | the important ones are |
| 20:08.45 | KriLL3 | durcyn: not much, but come on it's a 5mins job |
| 20:11.41 | quiescens | o.o |
| 20:11.56 | sylvanaar_work | o. |
| 20:12.14 | sylvanaar_work | O |
| 20:12.17 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 20:12.36 | sylvanaar_work | my contact lens1 |
| 20:13.04 | sylvanaar_work | im bored...want...to..go...home |
| 20:13.40 | quiescens | sleep |
| 20:13.44 | quiescens | nodnod |
| 20:14.04 | sylvanaar_work | im leaving in 10 minutes |
| 20:14.09 | Repo | 10castbars: 03xbeeps 043.0 * r130 : Tagging as 3.0 |
| 20:14.33 | quiescens | nap! |
| 20:14.42 | sylvanaar_work | i need one |
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| 20:24.59 | ckknight | KriLL3: how is that a 5 minute job? |
| 20:25.08 | ckknight | there's a lot that'd need to go into something like that |
| 20:25.33 | kadrahil | renders ckknight into widescreen |
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| 20:25.36 | sylvanaar_work | like new images |
| 20:25.47 | ckknight | new images, a whole bunch of QA |
| 20:26.04 | kadrahil | Quantum Availability |
| 20:26.13 | sylvanaar_work | dealing with a lot of QA at work now CK? |
| 20:27.02 | sylvanaar_work | QA is no fun |
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| 20:38.19 | TheDude2 | a fresh cata install is only 16GB? i couldnt get it under 20 |
| 20:39.24 | nevcairiel | my full WoW is 23gb. The Data\Cache folder is 9gb |
| 20:39.26 | nevcairiel | you do the math |
| 20:39.35 | Slayman | can't someone write an addon that auto-tracks reputation upon which tabard you are wearing? that would be neat |
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| 20:43.13 | durcyn | there are already addons that set the tracking to the most recent gain, that seems just as well to me |
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| 20:55.03 | Repo | Twilight Ascendants: disable Searing Winds & Grounded warnings in Phase 3 |
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| 21:18.27 | KriLL3 | why is gineas city empty btw? |
| 21:18.52 | KriLL3 | some future content patch/event to retake it from the forsaken I guess? |
| 21:19.21 | nevcairiel | there arent even forsaken in there :P |
| 21:19.33 | KriLL3 | though if it was held by the forsaken as the forsaken banners seem to claim there should be some there |
| 21:19.34 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 21:19.42 | KriLL3 | some quests to raid em would work well |
| 21:20.06 | KriLL3 | kill some officers, sabotage stuff, steal stores etc |
| 21:20.22 | KriLL3 | and later some event to push em out |
| 21:20.28 | KriLL3 | one more alliance town |
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| 21:21.21 | KriLL3 | could something similar for Kezan(sp?) I guess, clear it of lava, kill fire elementals etc |
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| 21:32.57 | Aens|Superiority | Whats a good spell alert addon that behaves similar to power auras. If an enemy is casting something interruptable, put a customizable icon on my screen kinda deal |
| 21:33.40 | Fisker | i once killed a guy |
| 21:34.41 | Slayman | Aens|Superiority: PowerAuras waitforit Classic |
| 21:35.04 | Parnic | fisker - that guy was me |
| 21:35.10 | Parnic | waves at Fisker. |
| 21:36.16 | Fisker | hey Parnic |
| 21:36.22 | Fisker | how did you survive? |
| 21:36.27 | Parnic | i didn't. |
| 21:36.29 | Repo | 10badboy_guilded: 03funkydude * r8 BadBoy_Guilded.lua: bugfix, add temp debug print |
| 21:41.59 | ulic | yea, I've been sick the last couple days, but I'm wanting to. |
| 21:42.10 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r7683 / (3 files in 3 directories): frFR Update |
| 21:43.57 | ulic | hehe, for the /msg part :) |
| 21:44.08 | ulic | still I fail, I give up |
| 21:51.53 | KriLL3 | archeology and heroic instance queue were made for each other |
| 21:54.17 | ulic | +dps |
| 21:54.42 | ulic | those were my exact thoughts when I was playing with it on beta :) |
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| 21:58.22 | Elkano | KriLL3, sucks to be DD, right? :P |
| 21:58.33 | KriLL3 | I'm usually tank but I don't think my gear is good enough atm |
| 21:58.57 | Elkano | well, I just managed to "cheat" me to 329 today and went tanking heros |
| 21:59.07 | KriLL3 | I got more than that, but it's mostly pvp gear |
| 21:59.20 | Fisker | slaps Elkano around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:59.34 | Elkano | ~fiskerslap |
| 21:59.35 | purl | ACTION slaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker. |
| 21:59.37 | kagaro | sup fisker |
| 22:01.23 | Repo | 10libmapdata-1-0: 03kagaro * r75 library.lua: Apply fix for Baradin hold like throne of four winds. |
| 22:01.57 | Fisker | you're latekag |
| 22:01.58 | Fisker | bah |
| 22:02.00 | Fisker | space sucks |
| 22:02.03 | Fisker | but you're late kagaro |
| 22:02.18 | kadrahil | space rocks |
| 22:02.20 | Fisker | i wanted to know what i had to do with reflux if i added additional addons after the initial setup |
| 22:02.21 | kagaro | just got home form work |
| 22:02.32 | kadrahil | additional pylons |
| 22:02.42 | Fisker | i hate pylons |
| 22:02.53 | Repo | 10transcriptor: 03StingerSoft * r134 Transcriptor.lua: added ruRU localization |
| 22:02.57 | kadrahil | additional tampons |
| 22:03.13 | Parnic | i'm with kadrahil. space is pretty cool |
| 22:03.29 | kagaro | you could just snapshot fisker to make a new profile that composites the others. Always make sure you backup your saved variable before |
| 22:03.33 | Parnic | screw you, fisker, and your space-hating ways. |
| 22:03.43 | kadrahil | why would anyone want to ever snapshot fisker |
| 22:03.53 | kadrahil | kagaro |
| 22:04.09 | kagaro | yo |
| 22:04.09 | Fisker | idk kagaro |
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| 22:04.25 | Fisker | i just did /reflux switch myprofile and then do stuff then /reflux save again |
| 22:04.29 | Fisker | and that seemed to work fine |
| 22:04.36 | kagaro | that works too |
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| 22:06.01 | Fisker | i'm bored |
| 22:18.23 | KriLL3 | wtf, finally got a random heroic and first thing that happens is that everyone leaves |
| 22:18.41 | kadrahil | owned |
| 22:18.53 | KriLL3 | how so? |
| 22:19.05 | kadrahil | they clearly had a secret pact |
| 22:19.09 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 22:19.10 | kadrahil | to leave |
| 22:19.15 | KriLL3 | to make me waste my queue time? |
| 22:19.25 | Parnic | i hate that about heroic groups |
| 22:19.43 | Parnic | last night we get through halls of origination, they decided to do rajh as the 3rd guy and i said "if we do this, we can't complete the group should we fail on the last guy" |
| 22:19.51 | Parnic | sure enough, we beat rajh, move to the last dude, wipe once, everyone leaves |
| 22:19.53 | Parnic | and i raged :P |
| 22:20.40 | KriLL3 | which bosses in there are optional btw? |
| 22:21.49 | Parnic | none that i know of...it's just that beating rajh is considered "completing the dungeon" even though you can do the last 4 guys in any order |
| 22:21.55 | Parnic | so i guess technically 3 of the final 4 are "optional" ? |
| 22:22.05 | KriLL3 | yeah that's what I meant |
| 22:22.21 | KriLL3 | smart to take him first I guess, in case the rest turn into cocks |
| 22:22.40 | Parnic | well the problem is that you can't re-queue in LFD once the dungeon is considered complete |
| 22:22.55 | Parnic | so if someone leaves, they've just screwed everybody out of 70 justice points * number of bosses plus 3 drops at least |
| 22:23.04 | KriLL3 | true |
| 22:23.06 | Parnic | should always save rajh for last |
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| 22:24.19 | Parnic | i wonder what would happen if you stay in the dungeon and get friends on your realm to join your group and run to the instance... |
| 22:24.31 | Parnic | might just put them in a different instance |
| 22:27.01 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7684 Blackwing/Omnotron.lua: Blackwing/Omnotron: engage bugfix, cleanup |
| 22:30.30 | KriLL3 | 142579HP, 54.30% armor mitigation, 29.67% dodge bear with tanking talents with Perseverance, thick hide etc, enough for heroics? best gear you can get from normals without doing em long enough to get items from justice points |
| 22:30.59 | ckknight | bears don't parry, do they? |
| 22:31.03 | KriLL3 | no |
| 22:31.12 | KriLL3 | mob bears do, ferals don't |
| 22:31.16 | KriLL3 | we only dodge |
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| 22:32.48 | KriLL3 | third heroic's the charm? |
| 22:33.29 | KriLL3 | first they were on last boss in deadmines, I was top dps at 6k and I spent a lot of time offhealing, healer went oom at 20%~ second they all left after entering stonecore |
| 22:33.54 | KriLL3 | mage had 4k, DK had 5k |
| 22:35.33 | KriLL3 | if it doesn't work this time as DPS I'll try tank |
| 22:35.52 | KriLL3 | don't like spending 45 mins in a queue at a time |
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| 22:51.16 | Repo | 10badboy_guilded: 03funkydude * r9 BadBoy_Guilded.lua: few more triggers |
| 22:56.53 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Dynaletik * r3155 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Lost City boss list fix |
| 23:03.07 | Repo | 10badboy_guilded: 03funkydude * r10 BadBoy_Guilded.lua: copy paste ftl |
| 23:03.10 | Gagorian | Great, seems like Microsoft's HTML5 extension for Firefox causes memory leak and slows the browser down massively |
| 23:03.20 | Gagorian | Seems like too convenient for microsoft |
| 23:03.39 | Funkeh` | sounds like a big ass hack anyway |
| 23:03.58 | steev | wait what? |
| 23:04.11 | steev | why would you use an html5 extension for firefox, from microsoft? |
| 23:04.23 | Gagorian | I like how the tech sites promoting it were all excited about how Microsoft doesn't mind to make addon's for their competitor |
| 23:04.29 | Gagorian | For H.264 support |
| 23:05.08 | nevcairiel | because firefox refuses to pay patent fees for H264, and MS has, so they made a plugin to integrate WMP into firefox for html5 video tags |
| 23:05.41 | Funkeh` | h.264 no longer has patent fees iirc |
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| 23:06.58 | Gagorian | Firefox memory usage goes slowly up to over 1 GB with just a few tabs open.. even when the extension shouldn't be doing anything |
| 23:07.23 | Gagorian | So yeah, it was a bad idea to install it in the first place... |
| 23:08.19 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Dynaletik * r3156 TableRegister/loottables.lua: - small loottables.lua update |
| 23:08.20 | nevcairiel | the MPEG-LA only doesn't charge for the videos that are provided for free on the internet. In theory they could charge you for every video |
| 23:08.31 | nevcairiel | They still want money for players and encoders |
| 23:08.46 | Funkeh` | mkay |
| 23:09.26 | Funkeh` | mmm http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20100825006629/en |
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| 23:11.55 | Brybry | at least for another 5 years...then they could change their minds |
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| 23:12.33 | nevcairiel | that announcement already states that it wont happen after the 2015 date |
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| 23:13.25 | nevcairiel | Doesnt matter anyway, not like people would've paid :P |
| 23:14.38 | Brybry | ain't that the truth |
| 23:16.06 | Funkeh` | idd |
| 23:18.05 | KriLL3 | am I correct in thinking Corla, Herald of Twilight is easy if 3 people block the beams to 80 stacks, then stop blocking, and when the spell ends after 10s you start blocking again? |
| 23:18.31 | KriLL3 | keep doing that and they shouldn't evolve right? |
| 23:19.25 | nevcairiel | thats how you usually do her |
| 23:19.55 | KriLL3 | 2 evolved, mine didn't |
| 23:20.12 | nevcairiel | its even more fun when the player evolves .P |
| 23:23.57 | arkanes | KriLL3: thats how its done, indeed |
| 23:24.16 | arkanes | KriLL3: the thing that can mess you up on heroic is a badly timed fear |
| 23:27.18 | Fisker | slaps arkanes around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:27.19 | Fisker | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:27.21 | Fisker | slaps KriLL3 around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:27.40 | arkanes | you're a wierd little monkey, Fisker |
| 23:28.02 | Fisker | i wouldn't |
| 23:28.34 | arkanes | I think we both know you would |
| 23:30.48 | KriLL3 | am I right in saying vanish fixes body pulls if no one else has attacked that group? |
| 23:31.37 | arkanes | depends |
| 23:31.47 | arkanes | its not usually a thing you want to rely on |
| 23:32.10 | KriLL3 | well a rogue bodypulled a group of mobs during boss and led them back to us |
| 23:32.36 | arkanes | during a boss fight it's extremely likely that something would happen to put other people on the mobs threat table |
| 23:33.15 | KriLL3 | sure, but the rogue didn't even try vanish |
| 23:34.34 | arkanes | bad rogues abound |
| 23:34.59 | KriLL3 | yeah, they don't have a clue about sap, blind, stuns, kick |
| 23:35.23 | KriLL3 | they just do a cast sequence macro with their rotation |
| 23:38.09 | ulic | I kick, stun, and sap. And I'm glad sap is needed again. I'll have to see if I can work in some blinds. |
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| 23:40.21 | Repo | 10badboy_guilded: 03funkydude * r11 BadBoy_Guilded.lua: tweaks |
| 23:42.41 | KriLL3 | think blind requires out of combat though |
| 23:49.15 | ulic | nah, just a long cooldown is all I think. |
| 23:49.38 | ulic | don't even need powder anymore iirc |
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