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00:11.07Repo10ag_unitframes: 03andreasg * r717 / (8 files in 4 directories): Add libhealcomm 4
00:12.00Dark_Elfbah gettrackingtexture a nil value
00:13.01Repo10ag_unitframes: 03andreasg * r718 ag_Extras (3 files in 2 directories): Add libhealcomm 4 pt. 2
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00:16.00Dark_Elfhmm i thought healcomm didnt work
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00:19.00mojosdojoIt doesn't
00:19.15mojosdojoit is dicontinued
00:19.21mojosdojo+s
00:22.10Shefki_WTH is andreasg doing...
00:25.45Dark_Elfcourse that would also mean that the module for pb4 dont work as well but u didnt see me type that
00:26.00ShefkiThere are two modules.
00:26.09ShefkiThe one with LHC in it does not load on 4.x
00:26.18ShefkiIt exists to support China that does not have 4.x yet.
00:26.34Dark_Elfoh
00:26.44Dark_Elfso china only one didnt get 4.x
00:26.49ShefkiYes.
00:26.55ShefkiThey just got wrath.
00:27.05ShefkiThey're on 3.3.5 for the forseable future.
00:27.13ShefkiHowever, their 3.3.5 have some cata client features in it.
00:27.24ShefkiSo I'd imagine they'll get the cata client without cata content sometime soon.
00:27.55ShefkiFor example they had the new GUID format that we got with 4.x in their 3.3.5
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00:29.02ShefkiI guess if andreasg is keeping aguf working for China then it makes sense.  Since the major reasons why it's obsolete aren't there yet.
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00:32.00Groktarwtf
00:32.05Groktarsatrina buff frames ate all my settings
00:32.06GroktarD:
00:32.41ulicnom nom
00:33.09Groktari had to go through so much work on the filters
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00:34.15Repo10ag_unitframes: 03andreasg * r719 ag_UnitClass.lua: fix frame dragging
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00:37.53Repo10census-wholib-version: 03sylvanaar 07original * r31 / (3 files in 2 directories): v5.0.2
00:40.14Repo10skillet: 03yossa * r232 / (2 files in 2 directories): Skillet:
00:40.15Repo- fix freeze
00:40.16Repo- show skill-up
00:44.37Repo10skillet: 03yossa 042.10 * r233 : Tagging as 2.10
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00:49.15Repo10wim-3: 03sylvanaar * r294 Sources/Options/CoreOptions.lua: remove the WIM-2-WIM options, oops...
00:49.50Balreignoops?
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00:52.51sylvanaari took out wim2wim
00:53.03sylvanaarforgot to take out the options
01:02.37Sapuanybody know the best way to make a frame hide on escape?
01:02.50Balreignspecialframes
01:02.55BalreignI mean
01:04.36Sapu?
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01:09.43Dark_Elfomg sylvanaar is updating wim... now im scared!
01:09.54sylvanaaryou should be
01:10.50sylvanaarbut seriously, pazza is a friend, so i hate seeing his mod go unmaintained
01:11.08Dark_Elfyeah i like wim
01:11.10sylvanaarsince he's no longer playing or working on it
01:12.55Sapuso I found this article (http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=17916) and have "local frame = CreateFrame("Frame", "TSMFrame",...); tinsert(UISpecialFrames, frame);"...any ideas why it still won't close on escape?
01:13.31Torhalsylvanaar: You should just merge WIM and Prat and call it Prim.
01:13.33Torhalducks.
01:14.03sylvanaaror PIM
01:15.25Dark_Elfprat has an erro
01:15.37sylvanaardoing what
01:17.05Dark_Elf\modules\\AltNames.lua:1629: attempt to index field 'Altlists' (a nil value
01:17.08BalreignSapu you need to insert the name of the frame
01:17.26sylvanaarAltlists, seriously?
01:17.32Dark_Elfyeah
01:17.38Balreigntinsert(UISpecialFrames, frame:GetName())
01:17.39Sapuso like: tinsert(UISpecialFrames, "TSMFrame") ?
01:17.49Balreignyep
01:18.12Sapuah ok..thanks that worked
01:18.14Repo10deus-vox-encounters: 03Shefki 07master * v507-2-ge83c25b / (15 files in 6 directories): [+2 commits]
01:18.15Repoe83c25b: Stub out Encounters for Cataclysm Raids.
01:18.16Repoce04fe8: Fix localize.rb so it'll actually work.
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01:21.20Sapuone more question...is there a way to set the name of a frame after it's been initialized?
01:23.38Arrowmasterno
01:23.51Sapumk...figured
01:27.09sylvanaarDark_Elf: what did you do to make the errror happen
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01:32.27Repo10deus-vox-encounters: 03Shefki 07master * v507-3-g333f827 Encounters/ (4 files in 4 directories): [+1 commit] Comment out parts of the Cata raid stubs that are empty so Validator doesn't whine.
01:35.56Repo10squire2: 03Adirelle 07master * 1.0.5-19-gb68cc65 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+4 commits]
01:35.57Repob68cc65: Generate shorter macros.
01:35.58Repoe39c48a: Shortened the modifier conditions.
01:35.59Sapuhey sylvanaar sorry if this is just an option I missed (but I double checked the options and couldn't find it) but I notice prat doesn't show anything that's done OnInitialize....anything I missed?
01:35.59Repo55d2307: Made the configuration panel bigger.
01:36.00Repod9a7b99: Use the Blizzard UI settings as defaults for mounted, shapeshifted and secure flight options.
01:36.18Sapuanything that's printed OnInitialize rather
01:36.43sylvanaarshow?
01:37.00Dark_Elf\AltNames.lua:1075>\n<string>:\"safecall Dispatcher[4]\":4: in function <[string \"safecall Dispatcher[4]\"]:4>\n<in C code>: ?\n<string>:\"safecall Dispatcher[4]\":13: in function `?'\nCallbackHandler-1.0-6 (Ace3):92: in function `Fire'\nLibAlts-1.0-40
01:37.12sylvanaaruse pastey Dark_Elf
01:37.23Dark_Elfi dont know what i was doing at time
01:37.24Sapuyea it doesn't show up in the chat log
01:37.49Dark_Elfit may be a conflict with another addon.. so i wouldnt worry about it
01:38.12sylvanaaryou mean you dont see all the load spam from other addons sapu?
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01:38.32Sapuright (or my own :) )
01:38.37sylvanaarDark_Elf: its not actually possible for that to happen
01:39.02sylvanaarSapu: if you change the number of lines on the main chatframe, they get wiped out
01:39.31sylvanaarI try to restore what was there, but it doesnt always work
01:39.38Dark_Elfsorry sylvanaar... seems the problem is i have chatter installed too... my bad
01:40.31sylvanaari wonder if chatter's module's and prat's overwrite eachother when they have the same name
01:40.53Antiarcchatter should stay pretty self-contained, but it almost certainly will cause hook/functionality conflicts
01:41.05Sapuyea...anything that's done in my OnLoad function (I use AceAddon) shows up but not in OnInitialize...but makes sense
01:41.31sylvanaari mean the chatter module AltNames and the prat module AltNames being loaded at the same time
01:41.46sylvanaardoes ace3 overwrite the module
01:41.57sylvanaarsince the names are the same?
01:42.38AntiarcThe module is contained in the chatter table
01:42.39AntiarcSo no
01:43.14sylvanaarwired
01:43.26sylvanaars/ire/eir/
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01:45.51sylvanaarwell you shouldnt run them both at the same time anyways
01:46.22Dark_Elfnope
01:47.44Dark_Elfdoes prat disable the new social chat button above the chat by default?
01:48.53sylvanaarno
01:49.09Dark_Elfhmm maybe chatter does then lol
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01:50.00Dark_Elfdamn i need to disable some addons lol
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01:54.11sylvanaari see what might be causing it
01:54.14sylvanaarnow
01:56.15Repo10little-wigs: 03Starinnia * r805 BRC/Rom'ogg.lua: fix Rom'ogg next Skullcracker format error
01:57.31Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r759 modules/AltNames.lua: only listen for libalts changes when enabled
01:58.33sylvanaarDark_Elf: you want to try this new version and see if the error is gone
01:59.02Parnicsylvanaar: you should add an anti-Identity module to prat. really annoying spam...
01:59.05Parnic@project Identity
01:59.06RepoParnic: More than one project was returned. Try supplying a game. Possible games: WoW, WAR.
01:59.11Parnic@project wow/Identity
01:59.13RepoParnic: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/identity/. Identity. Game: WoW. Ferusnox (Manager/Author). Updated: 49 days ago. Tickets: 3/3
02:00.01Parnicalso an anti-"grats!!!!!!!! {star} {star}" module
02:00.15Dark_Elfi will download and see
02:00.57sylvanaarParnic: that looks annoying, it puts it at the end of the chat?
02:01.07Parnicat the beginning
02:01.30sylvanaarwow
02:01.36Parnicevery. dadgum. message. [G] [CharName]: (Loc: Twilight Highlands) (BillyMcGee) hey!
02:01.40Parnici'm like really?!
02:02.15Parnicquite a few people in my guild use it and i can't convince them to stop
02:03.02sylvanaarwell that looks impossible to filter acurately
02:03.29sylvanaarthe loctaion is really bad
02:03.45Parnic(\(Loc: [^)]+\)[ ]+\([^)]+\)[ ]?
02:03.47sylvanaars/ta/at/
02:04.01sylvanaarthat could be filtered easily
02:04.05TorhalSapu: "MySuperAwesomeAddOn loaded!" <-- if that's what you're talking about...urk. Evilness.
02:04.30sylvanaarbut not the charname
02:04.42Parnicno i was showing how long their messages get with that addon installed
02:04.52Parnic[CharName] is part of the info i actually want :P
02:04.59Parnicit's just who's speaking
02:05.16sylvanaaryou can use customfilters then to filter it out
02:05.28Parnicfuriously searches for custom filters
02:05.59sylvanaaryou have to write your own filter though
02:06.05Parnicthat's fine
02:06.08Parnici just want it to die in a fir e:P
02:06.23Saputorhal, don't really care about that...but I had some debug prints in my OnInitialize function that I had to disable prat to see
02:07.18sylvanaarParnic: http://wow.curse.com/blogs/sylvanaar/archive/2010/10/20/making-life-more-colorful-with-customfilters.aspx
02:07.18Balreignit'll be purified by fire!!!
02:07.33Parnicthanks! :)
02:08.12Parnicif i don't see "CustomFilters" under Extra Stuff, does that mean i'm missing an optional prat module?
02:08.29sylvanaarits set to "dont load" in module control
02:08.33Parnicgot it
02:09.02Parnicfyi, toggling it on gave me this in chat: "[08:35] nil: This option change may not take full effect until you [Reload] your UI."
02:09.09Parnici'm assuming "nil" is wrong :P
02:09.13sylvanaarsapu, what i do is write debug prints to a table, then dump the table later
02:09.44Sapuyea...that's what I ended up doing
02:10.36sylvanaarParnic: just click the reload link
02:10.51Parnici did, just saying that "nil" probably doesn't belong. no big deal
02:11.01sylvanaaryou use bugsack?
02:11.07Parnicno, swatter
02:11.24sylvanaari get that too
02:11.31sylvanaari dont know what is causing it
02:11.52Parnicyeah it doesn't bother me just thought you may be interestee
02:11.58Parnics/interestee/interested/
02:12.11sylvanaari am, its VERY annoying
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02:29.51sylvanaarParnic: do you use prat's debug pullout?
02:33.23Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r761 / (2 files in 2 directories): the print command should be using the addon table, not the old namespace
02:33.24RepoThe debug tools are not part of the main prat addon, so they can't use the addon table from ... (duh)
02:37.37sylvanaarthat was so annoying, i cant believe i didnt notice that it started when i started using the addon table instaead of my own self created one
02:45.26mckenziemc~trout sylvanaar
02:45.27purlACTION slaps sylvanaar around a bit with a large trout!
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02:46.15Killmore1is there any addon to remove the blizzard boss unitframe on the right side of the screen ?
02:46.35mckenziemci think MoveAnything can be set to hide it
02:48.04mckenziemcugh
02:48.42mckenziemcthe "<each of your realID friends> has gone offline" spam when you log out is really annoying
02:48.53mckenziemcdid that just start a few days agoL
02:49.01mckenziemcs/L/?/
02:49.53Balreignno
02:50.01Repo10gnomish-interrupter: 03Rabbit * r34 GnomishInterrupter.lua: * Add a slash command to configure the channel.
02:50.02Repo* If the channel can recieve links, print a spell link instead of the name for the interrupted spell.
02:50.03Repo- Everything untested and mostly drycoded.
02:50.03BalreignI've noticed that before
02:53.00mckenziemci really hate how Adobe makes you use their downloader to get Adobe Reader -- is there any way to bypass that?
02:53.19mckenziemcor, is there some other app i could use to view pdf's ?
02:54.45HjalteFoxit Reader is pretty popular I believe?
03:00.07Brybryslashdot people are always spouting about sumatra
03:00.37Killmore1mckenziemc: moveanything have an option to move it but it doesnt work
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03:01.06BrybryI dunno if any of the non-adobe PDF viewers can handle DRM'd pdfs though
03:02.58Killmore1I *?&@*#&@!%&%&(# hate the blizzard boss unitframe
03:03.33BalreignI'm using pibull unitframe
03:03.50Balreignnever saw the blizzard boss frame :p
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03:38.23Repo10bootycall: 03Rabbit * r15 mmmbooty.lua: Enhance the debug messages and parse more loot messages.
03:40.40HjalteHow can LibRock-1.0 be the most popular library in the curse client?
03:41.09HjalteStandalone, that is.
03:41.23mckenziemclol
03:42.36Repo10bootycall: 03Rabbit * r16 mmmbooty.lua: Don't parse tradeskill item creation.
03:44.30Arrowmasterlol because of me
03:44.38Dark_Elfcause its used by fubar
03:44.57Arrowmasteri made a few repos depend on it so even in embedded mode the client downloads it standalone
03:45.15Arrowmasterdue to the library being completely fucking broken
03:45.52Repo10fascistgnome: 03Rabbit * r10 buffs.lua: Add cataclysm flasks.
03:46.02Dark_Elfi liked its options back in the day
03:53.58Repo10banana-dkp: 03Rabbit * r165 BananaDKP.lua: Add the Cata flasks/elixirs and ignore maelstrom crystals.
03:56.50Parnicholy crap
03:56.59Parnicuncut green-quality cata gems are selling for ludicrous prices on the AH
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03:57.21Parnic600g for 16 raw gems...what the heck
03:59.10TorhalParnic: Expansion launches are always like that
03:59.19TorhalFirst few days there were herbs I was selling at 29g PER
03:59.27Parnichaha
03:59.32Parnicstacks of embersilk cloth are stupid-high too
03:59.48Parnicsorry tradeskills, take a back seat
04:00.14Balreignthat's why I'm not using AH anymore
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04:38.02HjalteIt's great when you can wait with leveling tradeskills. I made at least 10k since cata release, selling just what I got from dungeon runs etc.
04:43.55Repo10fambags: 03fammy2k * r23 / (8 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 13 lines)
04:43.56Repov0.9.5-beta1
04:43.57Repo* Rearranged option groups for main options table (famBags)
04:43.58Repo+ New feature: You can now select strata for bags and bank
04:43.59Repowindows. [famBags -> Global layout -> Bags & bank strata]
04:44.11Ingelawhat happened to grid2?
04:44.12Ingelais it useful
04:44.15Ingelanow or what?
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04:46.22Repo10fambags: 03fammy2k 04v0.9.5-beta1 * r24 :  (Message trimmed by 5 lines)
04:46.23RepoVersion: v0.9.5-beta1
04:46.24Repo* Rearranged option groups for main options table (famBags)
04:46.25Repo+ New feature: You can now select strata for bags and bank windows. [famBags -> Global layout -> Bags & bank strata]
04:46.26Repo+ New feature: You can now select whether to show sectionsas a compact layout to save space or not. [famBags -> Sections layout -> Compact layout]
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04:57.50sylvanaarany of you try my lua IDE? i just made a new version which has a bunch of performance enhancements, and wanted to get some feedback
04:58.55[Wobin]damn you Curse
04:59.00[Wobin]and your non US competitions
04:59.08[Wobin]non non US
04:59.42sylvanaarnot not true
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05:04.51Ingelai can try it out sylvanaar
05:11.52PrimerI'm dying here with this AceConfig multiselect
05:12.22PrimerI now have 2 tables. My db has a table: foo = { "name1" = true, "name2" = false, ... }
05:12.24sylvanaarIngela: http://bitbucket.org/sylvanaar2/lua-for-idea/wiki/Home shows how to set it up
05:12.37Primerthe setter for the multiselect sends an index though
05:12.46sylvanaarIngela: this is good too: http://www.assembla.com/wiki/show/lrdevplugin/%28Mac-Win%29_IntelliJ_and_LUA
05:12.55Primerwhich then makes it: foo = { 1 = true, "name1" = true, ... }
05:13.31PrimerIs there absolutely NO way to pass ONE table to a multiselect AND use it as the prefs db table?
05:14.12Primerand have the names show up in the config UI?
05:14.25PrimerI had everything except the names showing up using one table
05:14.38sylvanaari use mutliselects in several places in prat, i just point it at my db table
05:15.27Jerub[Wobin]: i'm not an american, but i play one in wow?
05:16.13Primersylvanaar: I actually looked at Prat for examples
05:16.28sylvanaarits difficult to find the code i think
05:16.31Primerbut everything's spread around. I was hoping
05:16.34Primeryes!
05:16.42PrimerI was hoping for in-line examples
05:17.31PrimerI'm still trying to wrap my head around lua tables
05:17.39PrimerI think if I can finally understand them, I'll be ok
05:18.20sylvanaari have functions as my get and set, they are generic and work with all my multiselects
05:18.59Primerif I dump my table, it looks like: foo = { name1 = true, name2, = false }
05:19.31Primerif I set foo[numericIndex] it becomes: foo = { [1] = true, name1 = true, name2 = false }
05:19.35sylvanaarhttp://paste.wowace.com/3010/
05:19.42PrimerI still don't understand the significance of []
05:19.42sylvanaarthose are my get/set functions
05:19.59[Wobin]it's put around keys
05:20.04Primeryes, I've seen that code
05:20.21sylvanaarthen you name your db field the same as the option
05:20.24PrimerWobin, then why are the alphnumeric keys not surrounded by []?
05:20.30[Wobin]they can be
05:20.33[Wobin]if they have spaces
05:20.54[Wobin]numerics are more ambiguous
05:21.00sylvanaaryou can always ["name"] = true
05:21.12Primerthat's what I'm currently doing
05:21.14sylvanaarinstead of name=true
05:21.29Primeris there any effective difference?
05:21.33sylvanaarno
05:21.50Primeranyhow, the setter is passed the numeric index
05:22.10Primerwhat does # do?
05:22.15Primerin [#info]
05:22.24[Wobin]gives the count of the table
05:22.32[Wobin]for numerically indexed ones
05:22.38sylvanaaroh, you need to specify the values table
05:24.08Primerthis would be so much easier if I could just pass a table to the AceConfig values and it used the KEY
05:24.15Primeras the text...instead of the value
05:25.53sylvanaarits KEY = "Option Text"
05:26.31PrimerI wanted to just use one table
05:26.38Primerbut because of that, I have to use two
05:27.04sylvanaaryou know what, thats right, you have to use a list and a dictionary
05:28.22Primerso: foo = { "name" = "name", ...}
05:28.38Primerfor the values. Then foo = { "name" = true, ... } for the db
05:30.06sylvanaaryes, it will set the key "name" in your db to true
05:30.24sylvanaaror false, or whatever
05:30.52sylvanaarso, once you have your values table, you can use the getter and setter i posted
05:34.44sylvanaarits pretty easy to make your list { x, y, z } into { x=x, y=y, z=z }
05:35.33sylvanaar{ x="x", y="y", z="z" }
05:36.16sylvanaar{ ["x"]="x", ["y"]="y", ["z"]="z" }
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05:43.40apejensIs it possible to change the context-menu of the friends-list? Like add two/three more options?
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05:45.12Repo10broker-portals: 03CrazyBenny * r140 changelog.txt: fixed changelog
05:45.20sylvanaarsure
05:45.40apejensany pointers for where I start reading? :p
05:46.29sylvanaarUIDropdownMenu
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05:49.45sylvanaarmeh
05:49.50apejensOk, so I need to somehow "find" the standard UIDropdownMenu, then add options to it?
05:49.57apejensor do I need to replace the whole thing?
05:50.03sylvanaarUnitPopup
05:50.06sylvanaarsorry
05:50.41sylvanaarJust add entries to UnitPopupMenus["FRIEND"]
05:50.54sylvanaaror "BN_FRIEND"
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05:53.49apejensok, thanks :)
05:54.17sylvanaarheres some code I have http://paste.wowace.com/3011/
05:54.52sylvanaaryou make a button, then insert it into the menu list
05:55.04sylvanaaryou should look at unitpopup.lua
05:55.17sylvanaarin framexml
05:58.12apejensaha, sweet
06:00.46Sapuis there a way to combine two tables without just iterating through one and copying each element over?
06:01.05sylvanaarnope
06:01.48sylvanaarmaybe if they were numerically indexed ie lists
06:02.18sylvanaarbut the best way would still be iteration imo
06:04.36Sapuyea thought so
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06:08.06orionshockdid us realms just go down ?
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06:21.24apejenssylvanaar: ok, so I got the menu there now, but the func don't seem to get run?
06:21.32sylvanaaryeah
06:21.45sylvanaari had to come up with a solution for that too
06:21.53sylvanaarheres what i did
06:22.47sylvanaarhttp://paste.wowace.com/3012/
06:23.31apejensyikes
06:23.50sylvanaarmy solution is generic though
06:23.56apejensyeah
06:24.00sylvanaaryou can write a specific one
06:24.27apejensmind if I just copy yours?
06:24.33sylvanaarsure
06:25.19apejensand how will this work if multiple addons try to do the same?
06:25.25apejenswill all securehooks run?
06:25.30sylvanaaryes
06:26.49sylvanaarbasically all it does is put the function back on the button when the menu is shown
06:27.03sylvanaarsince blizzy erases it
06:27.46apejensmhm
06:27.54apejensclever, thanks :)
06:27.59apejensworked like a charm!
06:29.37apejenskinda silly that blizz makes it easy to add menu items, but not something to respond to those
06:31.38sylvanaarmaybe someone knows another way to do it...
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06:33.42sylvanaarwhat happened to pastey.net
06:33.47Jerubstuff
06:34.09sylvanaarclearly
06:35.48Arrowmasterlooks like mysql server is down
06:35.57Arrowmasterseriously who uses mysql anymore
06:36.20sylvanaarPHP programmers
06:40.43Parnicsomeone in guild chat starts talking about following around this guy and stealing ore nodes from him so i call the guild guy a jerk for doing so
06:40.50Parnici then get kicked out of the guild
06:40.51Parniclulz
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06:41.35apejenssylvanaar: thank you so much for your help!
06:41.36Parnicmust've been an officer's lady friend or something
06:42.47sylvanaaru should have called him a "(Loc: Trilight Highlands) jerk"
06:43.03Parnici've been trolling them with that, actually. (Bill Clinton) lolwut?
06:43.06PProvostDoes GatherMate_Sharing work with GatherMate2?
06:43.11ParnicPProvost: yes
06:43.18PProvostSweet
06:43.26sylvanaari was wondering the same thing but never asked
06:44.12PProvostYeah since it wasn't renamed GatherMate2_Sharing, I wasn't sure
06:44.15orionshockParnic, what kind of guild where you in that you get booted so carelessly?
06:44.26Parnica guild full of idiots, apparently
06:45.32Parnicseemed less about carelessness and more about me striking a nerve with somebody. or offending their SO
06:45.47Parnicshrugs
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06:48.04JerubParnic: what server?
06:48.12ParnicUS-Blade's Edge
06:48.36Jerub:/ i need to find people on oceanic servers who are nice.
06:48.41Jerub[Wobin] barely counts.
06:48.54Jeruband too many people are on queuemourne.
06:49.13orionshockJerub, oceanic servers are usually pretty nice... granted if you get an auzie server things get interesting :)
06:49.51orionshocki was on Nagrand for a while, had a decent mix on horde side
06:50.48sylvanaarim liking zul'jin
06:50.54sylvanaarus
06:51.09Jerubi'm on dath'remar-horde, cael-alliance, nagrand-alliance
06:51.10Jerubi think
06:51.51[Wobin]=(
06:51.53[Wobin]I'm nice
06:51.55tlundis there a way to see how many times an alpha has been downloaded?
06:52.10orionshockno iirc
06:52.12[Wobin](Or at least that's what Jerub's mother told me)
06:52.16Parnicadmins can see it, not us
06:52.32Arrowmasterreally?
06:52.34Parnicreally
06:52.43Arrowmasteri was about to say that it shows up on the files page
06:53.19Parnicyep, only for uppity-ups
06:53.50Jerub[Wobin]: touche.
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06:55.35Parnici hate gathering nodes that only exist in certain phases...
06:55.45Jerubi hate phasing :/
06:58.26apejenscan addons comnuicate trough the "background channels" with realid friends?
07:00.29orionshockapejens, no
07:02.49apejensargh
07:03.38mckenziemcpoor trolls get no love
07:03.43mckenziemctroll district in org is empty
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07:05.41mckenziemcis there a helper addon for altoholic/datastore that tells you which characters/types of info it still needs to collect?
07:06.02mckenziemclike "DataStore hasn't been able to check Delandin's alchemy recipes yet"
07:06.18mckenziemcsince it can see that i have alch but can't get the recipes till i open it
07:07.00mckenziemcand tell me if i've never checked Auctions/Mail on a char, or if it's been a while
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07:37.17apejens@describe squire2
07:37.18Repoapejens: http://www.wowace.com/addons/squire2/. Squire2. One-click smart mounting.
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07:42.33`-FISKER_Qi was without internets for 1½ hour :(
07:43.50mckenziemcqq
07:45.58Fiskeri will fuck you up
07:47.28Repo10squire2: 03Adirelle 07master * 1.0.5-21-g79509f4 Squire2.lua: [+1 commit] Reordered pieces of code (hopefully nothing dropped into limbos).
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08:45.54Torhalstabs Fisker with
08:47.42mckenziemcwith blanks?
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08:57.29mckenziemc~seen gnafoz
08:57.36purlmckenziemc: i haven't seen 'gnafoz'
08:59.12mckenziemcs/naf/narf/
08:59.31mckenziemc~seen gnarfoz
08:59.32purlgnarfoz is currently on #debian (1d 7h 15m 57s) #sc2mapster (1d 7h 15m 57s) #wowhead (1d 7h 15m 57s) #norganna (1d 7h 15m 57s) #wowuidev (1d 7h 15m 57s) #wowace (1d 7h 15m 57s) #curseforge (1d 7h 15m 57s). Has said a total of 173 messages. Is idling for 9h 4m 14s, last said: 'tablet works'.
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09:28.52mckenziemclua> 7 % 4
09:28.53lua_botmckenziemc: 3
09:29.03mckenziemclua> 8 % 4
09:29.03lua_botmckenziemc: 0
09:29.25mitch0lua> -3 % 4
09:29.25lua_botmitch0: 1
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09:35.14mckenziemclua> math.sqrt(-1)
09:35.16lua_botmckenziemc: nan
09:35.29mckenziemclua> nan^2
09:35.30lua_botmckenziemc: luabot:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'nan' (a nil value)
09:35.42mckenziemclua_bot lies!
09:38.09mckenziemchmm, it's kinda hard to log data if i don't specify the table as a SavedVariable...
09:43.34mckenziemc16 % 0
09:43.38mckenziemclua> 16 % 0
09:43.38lua_botmckenziemc: nan
09:44.00mckenziemclua> 16 % 1
09:44.00lua_botmckenziemc: 0
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10:00.28ramozlua> 16 % 5
10:00.28lua_botramoz: 1
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10:32.45mckenziemclol elkano
10:33.53mckenziemcis there any way i could make sure one of the frame objects is the first one to recieve an OnUpdate per lua-cycle, and another frame is the last to recieve OnUpdate?
10:34.09mitch0don't think so
10:34.23mckenziemcso that i can check the total amount of time consumed by lua for that frame (video frame)
10:34.35mitch0apart from not registering OnUpdate on the "last" frame but triggering that from the "first" frame's OnUpdate
10:35.01mitch0ah, for that it's no good
10:35.08krka_i think there are some profiling stuff you can use in the api
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10:45.21dieckhi! is there a simple way of finding out, which invisible frame layered itself on top of something and thus blocks/intercepts clicks?
10:45.22mckenziemcpurl, fiskerslap is <action> slaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker.
10:45.22purlokay, mckenziemc
10:45.27mckenziemc~fiskerslap
10:45.28purlACTION slaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker.
10:46.11mckenziemcdieck: make a macro that says /run local f = GetMouseOver(); if f then print(f:GetName()) end
10:46.34dieckmckenziemc: ok, that's simplier than I thought :) thanks!
10:46.38mckenziemclet me check my macro ingame to make sure i got that right
10:47.16dieckif looks about right
10:48.12mckenziemcGetMouseFocus*
10:48.34dieckand for a recommendation: Fubar seems to have some issues left here with 4.0 - is there any valid alternative out there?
10:48.39dieckmckenziemc: thanks
10:48.42mckenziemcBazooka
10:50.56Torhaldieck: Just type /framestack
10:51.13Torhalmckenziemc's method is the old way :)
10:51.36mckenziemcoh nice
10:51.57dieckoh, ok
10:52.21mckenziemci'll update my macro then xD
10:57.49Repo10wim-3: 03sylvanaar 043.5.1 * r295 : Tagging as 3.5.1
11:07.30mojosdojoAdirelle: 1x Squire2-1.0.5-21-g79509f4\Squire2.lua:283: bad argument #1 to 'gsub' (string expected, got nil)
11:08.43mckenziemccurse you, operator precedence!
11:10.03mckenziemc"frameNum-1 % framesPerCycle" translates to "framerate - (1%framesPerCycle)" rather than the "(framerate-1) % framesPerCycle" that i expected
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11:19.22mckenziemc@project lib-chart
11:19.30Repomckenziemc: No project found that matches 'lib-chart'
11:19.39mckenziemc@project lib-graph
11:19.40Repomckenziemc: No project found that matches 'lib-graph'
11:20.01mckenziemci'd like to buy a wildcard please
11:21.47mckenziemc@project libgraph-2-0
11:21.48Repomckenziemc: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libgraph-2-0/. LibGraph-2.0. Game: WoW. Xinhuan (Manager/Author), Cryect (Author). Updated: 64 days ago
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11:25.37mckenziemckrka_: was that you that answered my question yesterday about lua and video rendering by saying wow is single-threaded?
11:26.23krka_i guess
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11:33.40mckenziemc!api math.random
11:33.40lua_botDocumentation for 'math.random' can be found at http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-math.random
11:34.07mckenziemcwhy is lua_bot so slow lately O.o
11:37.38mckenziemclocal hangTime = self.minHangTime + math.random() * (self.maxHangTime - self.minHangTime)
11:38.05mckenziemcdid i set that up right to get a random number between the min and max (they're decimal values)
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12:33.39mckenziemcanyone familiar with OpenOffice? i'm trying to look at a chart i made of some data, but OO is scrunching most of the data points on the bottom of the graph in order for it to fit an outlier on the top
12:34.14mckenziemcnvm figured out the right spot to click xD
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12:52.55phyberso, anyone familiar with Hunters know why they just fire at random mobs if you push one of the shots without a target?
12:53.17phybera) No target. b) Push arcane shot. c) Game targets and pulls a random mob for you.
12:53.35phyberi can't understand why blizzard think this is good.
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13:02.52Xinhuanit has always done that, particularly with melee skills
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13:05.52Slaymanphyber: that stops being funny once it pulls the boss with some added trash for good measure
13:06.44phyberXinhuan: yeah, I've noticed it with melee skills, but it doesn't matter so much there.  if the mob is in your face, you probably want to hit it.
13:06.57phyberbut with a hunters ranged stuff?
13:07.13Xinhuancheck the hunter forum perhaps
13:07.18phyberI mean, if i sit and hammer Incinerate on my warlock, it doesn't pick a random target and start firing, not would i expect it to.
13:07.27phyberI did, the way to "fix" it is apparently with macros.
13:07.35Slaymandieck: you can use any kind of LDB display (like Bazooka (which is close to fubar in look and feel)) and then get the appropriate LDB Plugins which mirror your fubar plugins, or alternatively there is a Fubar2Broker wrapping addon
13:07.52Xinhuanhow does a macro fix it
13:07.53phyberpoor fix. i just wondered if anyone had heard blizzard saying why it's designed like that at any point, really :)
13:08.02phyber/cast [harm] Some Spell
13:08.09phyberapparently stops the auto targetting
13:08.15Xinhuanah
13:08.24Xinhuanwell ok that makes sense
13:08.34Xinhuan[harm] prevents you from even casting it if you don't have a target
13:08.47Xinhuanso since you don't cast it, there's no auto targetting
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13:09.00evlXinhuan: does [harm] also check [exists] ?
13:09.06Xinhuanharm implies exists
13:09.10Slaymanphyber: wasn't there some targeting option in the standard IF Menu that helps?
13:09.12evlgood to know
13:09.23Xinhuandoesn't check for [nodead] though
13:09.34Xinhuanit may autotarget if you have a selected dead target
13:09.34evlI have that
13:09.44evlI wrote a Tricks of the Trade addon that updates a macro out of combat
13:11.41evl<PROTECTED>
13:12.40evlI guess I can replace exists with help, save some chars
13:12.50Xinhuanheh
13:13.19evlReally nice in big raids where people (might) die. prioritize :)
13:13.36Xinhuani click-cast tricks
13:13.37Xinhuan:P
13:13.41Xinhuanno macro there
13:14.02evlWell this is an addon that adds Primary, Secondary target bindings
13:14.22evlbut they really just update a macro
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13:39.55mckenziemchow does wow's Reduce Input Lag option work? what does it actually do "under the hood" ?
13:42.53mckenziemcevl: you should change @Doug,exists to @Doug,help in case he gets mind controlled :D
13:43.22mckenziemcor would it not consider that when checking "help" ?
13:44.10evlmckenziemc: yeah I did now :)
13:46.27mckenziemcgoodnight -- if anyone has an answer to that input lag question, please PM me, i'd really like to know
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14:09.19Repo10squire2: 03Adirelle 07master * 1.0.5-23-g5a14315 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
14:09.20Repo5a14315: Locales updated.
14:09.21Repo436a004: Moved the upvalues to the top.
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14:10.27SinusPihow exactly do you PM a person absent from IRC, I wonder. @mckenziemc
14:11.00mitch0~botmail
14:11.26Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1547 Data/Priest.lua:
14:11.28Repo- Fixed Power Word: Shield calculation in conjunction with Improved Power: Word Shield and Twin Disciplines according to Headhuntress
14:23.26mitch0is this curse promo thing available outside of the US? (the intel ssd thing)
14:24.15sbu_koaschten, koaschten, koaschten
14:24.22mitch0forget the question...
14:24.23sbu_https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0036609LK :D
14:24.33sbu_errr yes, nevcairiel, Slayman also :p
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14:32.37Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7651 / (3 files in 3 directories): Pass sourceGUID as the last argument to :Log handlers.
14:36.21koaschtenich steh ned so auf die selection dinger ;)
14:38.58Megalonspanks koaschten
14:39.03Repo10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia * r195 / (14 files in 3 directories): -a bunch of new icons choices, again thanks mojobechi
14:39.04Repo-Seal of Truth icon cleaned up
14:43.09koaschtenme likes some proper spankin'
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14:50.14[Wobin]mitch0: looks not =(
14:50.42[Wobin]although -maybe- if you have an available US address
14:53.08KriLL3anyone got any notion as to what addon adds an alliance icon and horde icon next to each other with the text "zone changed" and a resizing handle bottom right?
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15:00.33koaschtenno clue KriLL3 but i have a similar question, any addon out there that tracks which daily quests you have / have not done?
15:00.53KriLL3how is that similar?
15:01.50koaschtenlooking for an addon ;)
15:05.25Slaymansbu_: no thanks, I don't like neither mars nor dove so No thanks
15:06.05Slaymanouta here!
15:06.06Slaymanl8er
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15:32.45Repo10libactionbutton-1-0: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 0.8-2-g33e098f LibActionButton-1.0.lua: [+1 commit] Fix the return values of GetCooldown for button types without an underlying API call. (nil is not valid, 0,0,0 is where its at)
15:34.49Repo10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia * r196 / (8 files in 2 directories): -final set of icons
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15:39.14Repo10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia * r197 Options/Options.lua:
15:39.15Repo-decrease max value for font size to be around Blizzard's limit
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15:45.01koaschtenhmm pastey.net is down :/
15:45.39Balreignkoaschten, tomquest2 isq tracking daily quests you have done
15:45.42mitch0erm, use one of the other gazillion pastey sites?
15:46.14koaschtenmitch0 well i got used to it ;)
15:46.45mitch0all the others look the same, too :)
15:47.01koaschtenwell i am seeing this http://paste.wowace.com/3013 with a freshly installed AtlasLoot any clue why that is happening as i guess its working for most/all others
15:47.39koaschtenseperately installed ace3 at fault probably?
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15:49.37MegalonFisker
15:49.43Megaloni had to delete my ftp
15:49.48Megalonbecause anonymous logged in
15:52.20KriLL3ohnoes! what did they do? e-terrerism?
15:52.25Ackiskoaschten: atlasloot is weird right now, it only works if you embed the libraries, and even then I get errors with it
15:53.12Balreignyou can also rename the libraries so that they load before atlasloot
15:53.23KriLL3!! ?
15:53.50BalreignAce3 becomes !Ace3 for example
15:54.10Ackisno don't do that
15:55.02Balreignyou don't need to rewrite the library
15:55.11Balreignonly the toc and folder name
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15:57.56nevcairielDidnt you get the memo, running disembedded is not supported.
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15:58.49nevcairielbesides, if its just a loading order problem, rather just add the libraries as OptDeps to AtlasLoot
15:58.51nevcairielseems easier
15:59.04Balreigntrue
15:59.34EthanCentauraisylvanaar: ping
16:03.09sylvanaar_workEthanCentaurai: hm
16:03.18steevsylvanaar_work: tried out 3.5.1, seems to be working fine so far
16:03.28sylvanaar_workgreat
16:03.29steevi definitely don't use wim to its full potential
16:03.39steevpretty much just because i hate missing tells
16:03.53EthanCentauraisylvanaar_work: got two errors with WIM 3.5.1 clean install
16:04.11EthanCentaurai\FrameXML\TutorialFrame.lua line 642: attempt to index local 'displayData' (a nil value) when a WIM tutorial appears
16:04.21sylvanaar_workturn them off
16:04.29EthanCentauraialready have
16:04.37sylvanaar_workim probably going to disable those too
16:04.40nevcairielwhat kind of solution is that :P
16:04.56EthanCentauraiand \AddOns\WIM\Sources\Options\OptionsTookKit.lua line 481: attempt to index local 'info' (a nil value) when I try to set the number of history lines to keep
16:05.11sylvanaar_workyeah, thats a bug
16:06.05sylvanaar_worki honestly dont know how to test wim, i only use a fraction of it
16:07.05sylvanaar_workEthanCentaurai: can you open a ticket on wowace
16:07.15EthanCentauraiokie dokie
16:07.17sylvanaar_work@project wim-3
16:07.19Reposylvanaar_work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/wim-3/. WIM (WoW Instant Messenger) v3. Game: WoW. sylvanaar (Manager/Author), 01satkins (Author), Pazza (Author). Updated: 5 hours ago. Tickets: 21/273
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16:09.10EthanCentauraiI can't get it to re-appear
16:09.23sylvanaar_workthe tutorialframe one?
16:09.31EthanCentauraithe second one
16:09.39EthanCentauraiI disabled the tutorials :>
16:10.21EthanCentauraichange settings, reload, problem solved
16:11.07sylvanaar_workif you delete your saved vars it might come back
16:11.21sylvanaar_workprobably uninitialized data
16:12.36EthanCentauraidid that
16:12.44EthanCentauraineither error wants to reappear O_o
16:12.52sylvanaar_worklol
16:12.55EthanCentauraiwtf
16:13.32sylvanaar_workwhen you updated - you exited the game?
16:13.45sylvanaar_work(have to ask that)
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16:14.14EthanCentauraiyep
16:14.48Megalonwtf, agUF updates from andreasg? :x
16:14.59sylvanaar_worki know thats crazy
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16:15.11sylvanaar_workhes been gone for how long now 3 years?
16:15.48sylvanaar_work(thats what it seems like)
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16:26.55groktarlast night i remembered why sexycooldown is so much better than coolline
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16:27.05groktarsexycooldown actually works when you switch specs and get new spells
16:27.44groktarnot  updated for 4.0 tho
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16:39.46sylvanaar_worki am using sexycooldown - it works for me
16:42.03Megalonyea, if your spells didn't change it is fine
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16:43.02Repo10arl: 03Ackis 07master * 2.0.5-79-g69e8ee6 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+4 commits]
16:43.03Repo69e8ee6: Ticket 1121
16:43.04Repo53129be: Update Imperial Plate Recipes.  The quest was removed and this is now learnable via trainer.  Potentially need to add all the new trainers to the trainerdb.
16:43.05Repo802103c: Fix a small bug where when scanning a trainer, it would just say Trainer flag needs to be set, without listing the spell ID missing for the flag.
16:43.06Repoac1fb10: Ticket 1119
16:43.34Ackisping kagaro
16:45.24Repo10arl: 03pompachomp 07master * 2.0.5-81-g2724d18 Database/Smelting.lua: [+2 commits]
16:45.25Repo2724d18: Merge branch 'master' of git.wowace.com:wow/arl/mainline
16:45.26Repo038a78e: The Mining database now includes all the recipes added in Cataclysm.
16:46.16kagarosup ackis
16:47.00Repo10breakables: 03Parnic 041.3.2 * r59 : Tagging as 1.3.2
16:47.33AckisI have a sinking feeling that all trainers teach all trainer recipes now in cataclysm, is there a way with datatools to verify that hypothesis? been a while since I played with it
16:47.37Ackis@describe breakables
16:47.38RepoAckis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/breakables/. Breakables. Tracks herbs/ore/items that can be broken into component pieces
16:50.24harlthe new zones definitely need more quests, more enemies, more doodads and more of those fancy effects like mists, sand storms and alike.
16:50.25Repo10arl: 03Ackis 07master * 2.0.5-82-gacf7353 Database/Quest.lua: [+1 commit] Fix some formatting in the quest db.
16:50.55harlok, maybe vahj'ir doesn't need more doodads
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16:54.09kagaroackis is doens tlook like it
16:54.27kagarocata recipes arent taught out side of the city capitals
16:55.10AckisI wonder if it's just capital cities that got everything then
16:55.19kagaroi think so
16:55.45kagaroback in a while
16:55.55Ackisditto, meeting time
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16:59.20Repo10arl: 03Ackis 07master * 2.0.5-83-g8b97470 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Database documentation file is older than I am.  Removed it.  The code comments detail how to use the database quite clearly.
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17:03.33EthanCentauraicannot get those errors to reappear
17:03.36EthanCentauraiI've tried everything
17:03.41EthanCentauraiI blame Fisker
17:07.39KriLL3I'm an idiot, wow loads slower than a slug with skype running, took me about a day to realize I got a netbook on my desk nearby...
17:17.01sylvanaar_workFisker is indeed a probable cause
17:19.10KriLL3can I also blame Fisker?=
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17:22.53sylvanaar_workpurl: blame Fisker
17:22.53purlACTION blames Fisker (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
17:24.34KriLL3is Fisker canadian? that would be perfect
17:25.12nevcairielnah, but Ackis is
17:25.27EthanCentauraipurl, hug me
17:25.27purlACTION hugs ethancentaurai
17:25.31sylvanaar_work~blame
17:25.44sylvanaar_work~blame me
17:25.44purlACTION blames sylvanaar_work (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
17:25.48KriLL3how canadian? kinda likes hockey but speaks english and is rude? or speaks french, loves hockey, has a shrine to the queen and is overly polite?
17:26.05sylvanaar_work~factinfo blame
17:26.05purlsylvanaar_work: there's no such factoid as blame
17:26.17sylvanaar_work~help blame
17:26.37nevcairielits something like blame (.*) or something, but i never can remember the exact pattern syntax for purl
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17:26.48sylvanaar_workme either
17:27.28sylvanaar_workand even when i looked it up, that didnt help
17:28.24sylvanaar_workah
17:28.26durcyn~literal blame
17:28.32durcynstupid builtins
17:28.34sylvanaar_work~listkeys blame
17:28.53nevcairielso its .*?
17:29.11nevcairiel~factinfo blame (.*?)
17:29.11purlnevcairiel: there's no such factoid as blame (.*?)
17:29.16nevcairielor not
17:29.20durcynit's not a factoid
17:29.21nevcairiel~factinfo cmd: blame (.*?)
17:29.21purlcmd: blame (.*?) -- last modified at Thu Jun 22 16:47:45 2006 by sjansen!n=sjansen@hq-nat2.gurulabs.com; it has been requested 151 times, last by sylvanaar_work, 3m 37s ago.
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17:29.55nevcairiel~factinfo cmd: api (.*?)
17:29.55purlcmd: api (.*?) -- created by Mikk <n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com> at Tue Jul 10 20:39:09 2007 (1254 days); it has been requested 155 times, last by Hati, 4d 20h 4m 53s ago.
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17:29.58nevcairieli like that one ^
17:30.02KriLL3I think fisker sabotaged purl
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17:30.17sylvanaar_workyeah that one is clever
17:30.23Parnic~api UnitName
17:30.23purl!api UnitName
17:30.24lua_botUnitName: Returns the name of a unit (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitName)
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17:30.27Parnicnice
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17:31.18Parnic~listkeys lua
17:31.29sylvanaar_work~cmd: api (.*?)
17:31.32Parnic~luafy
17:31.32purllua> "luafy"
17:31.40sylvanaar_work~literal cmd: api (.*?)
17:31.40purl"cmd: api (.*?)" is "($1): !api $1"
17:31.43sylvanaar_workthere
17:31.51sylvanaar_worknow i am empowered
17:33.21sylvanaar_workno, it still doesnt make sense why there are 2 $1's
17:33.40KriLL3I'm guessing this is correct, agility grants dodge in bearform, but no actual attack benefits? str is needed for dmg? aka threat retention
17:33.53nevcairielagility gives ap
17:34.04nevcairielalso crit, i'm guessing
17:34.12KriLL3yeah crit
17:34.19KriLL3you're saying agi gives AP in bear?
17:34.23nevcairielyes
17:34.33KriLL3so agi > str?
17:34.37nevcairieli havent seen strength leather yet
17:34.50nevcairielnot much of it, anyway
17:34.56KriLL3mostly rings etc
17:34.58nevcairielyou're supposed to wear the default leather
17:35.01Repo10craftdb: 03Gorilivan * r19 / (2 files in 1 directory): Updated TOC version 0.2.5b
17:35.01nevcairielwhich has agi
17:35.03RepoUpdated Lua multiple lines to include profession skills (TradeID) not found errors.  Still may be some missing.
17:35.04RepoStarted fix Ticket# 2 reported by front243.
17:35.04nevcairielwhich gives ap
17:35.05RepoMarking as beta.
17:35.14Parnic@describe craftdb
17:35.15RepoParnic: http://www.wowace.com/addons/craftdb/. Craft DB. CraftDB keeps track of crafter on your server.
17:35.55sylvanaar_work@help
17:35.55Reposylvanaar_work: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
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17:42.44Slaymanhey is there any kind of intelligent ToDo List for WoW?
17:43.28Ackislulz intelligent and wow in the same sentence
17:43.31Slaymanlike "you have to do cooking daily with char, JC daily with char2, transmute with char2 and have Cooldown for dream of #+-:+ ready
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17:55.43Repo10arl: 03pompachomp 07master * 2.0.5-85-ge98a9f0 Database/Engineering.lua: [+2 commits]
17:55.44Repoe98a9f0: Merge branch 'master' of git.wowace.com:wow/arl/mainline
17:55.45Repod8316e2: The Engineering database now includes all the recipes added in Cataclysm.
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17:59.24Repo10arl: 03Ackis 07master * 2.0.5-86-g6c2cef0 Docs/Main.txt: [+1 commit] Update main page slightly.
18:05.03sbu_hmmm nevcairiel
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18:05.14nevcairiel?
18:05.19sbuare there known bugs in sRF?
18:05.24sbui have some strange behaviour in group layout mode
18:05.27nevcairieldunno, i stopped using it
18:05.32sbulike totally fucked up frames
18:05.34sbuerrr okay :P
18:05.39sbustandard-ui?
18:05.46nevcairielsuf
18:05.56sbu*sigh* :)
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18:10.37KriLL3if the dark irons are kinda bud-buds with the rest of the dwarves, why are there still dark iron mobs?
18:13.25Repo10collectinator: 03Ackis 07rewrite * 1.0.5-19-g5e37e77 core.lua: [+5 commits] (1 truncated)
18:13.26Repo5e37e77: Kill some more api stuff.
18:13.27Repo11eec63: Nuke more stuff not needed.
18:13.28Repo6f7931f: Remove recipe level colouring.
18:13.29Repo296e472: Get rid of player role filters.
18:15.46Repo10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * 1.0.5-15-g99d9d2a Docs/Main.txt: [+1 commit] Update main page with a disclaimer.
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18:19.26harllol.. standing next to Salhet gave me the "Invalid Target" error two times. he seems to use up the charges of my lightning shield, although he's green (friendly).
18:20.11harleither that or something else is happening there that's not supposed to
18:21.11KriLL3I think the guy that maintains an interactive and complete map of flightpaths in wow has committed suicide
18:21.23KriLL3so... many... flightpaths...
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18:39.13Ackis@project hudmap
18:39.14RepoAckis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/hudmap/. HudMap. Game: WoW. Antiarc (Manager/Author). Updated: 7 days ago. Tickets: 76/96
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18:39.44Connor1Motherfuck
18:39.50Connor1Anyone get stuck in Deepholm?
18:39.57Connor1I can't log in on my warrior, the loading screen just gets stuck
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18:41.15harlanything like that hasn't happend to me yet
18:41.58Connor1Motherfuck why can't I post ont he battle.net forums
18:42.00Connor1The*
18:42.13Connor1Says I have no account
18:43.09harlwrong continent maybe?
18:43.44Repo10craftdb: 03Gorilivan * r20 Changelog-CraftDB-r18.txt: added Changelog
18:46.28KriLL3giev tabards handled as mounts kthx, half the bank full of tabards sucks
18:47.40nevcairieljust belete them, you can get most of them back if you need them
18:48.07Connor1I'm working now
18:48.09Connor1harl
18:49.03harl?
18:49.32groktarwhat nevcairiel said
18:49.57groktarthe only tabard i'm attached to is the tbc launch one
18:50.00ulicI also agree
18:50.06groktarother ones can gtfo
18:50.19nevcairieli throw those away that are just sold by the tabard vendor
18:50.25Connor1harl the forums are working for me again
18:52.32harlok, connor.
18:53.30harltalking tabards, there's about a dozen.. other unique one of them, that i'd recommend to keep - those from world events, achievements, quests, aldor/scryer and 2 or 3 that are just too hard to find/get to just throw them away.
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18:56.23Ackisharl: plus the UDE ones
18:56.37harlof course
18:57.41industrialwtb gathermate2_data in hyjal :p
18:58.32nevcairielkagaro fails at updating it
18:58.46industrialkagaro: ^
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19:06.52Yssarilwowhead doesnt have hyjal data as such he can't mine it
19:10.49industrialoh
19:11.40Yssarilindustrial: http://www.wowhead.com/object=202736 <-- for example
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19:12.30RepoStonecore/Ozruk.lua: Enrage is at 20% not a timer, add heroic spellIds, misc cleanups
19:12.41groktarwhy would you keep aldor/scryer?
19:13.06groktarpokes harl
19:13.49Ackisgroktar: if you went aldor -> scryer, you keep your scryer one because you can't get it back
19:14.34harlbecause it's proof that you had already been exalted with the other faction first
19:30.00Megalonis the feces of strength not proof enough? :x
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19:39.47KriLL3leveling arch is slow
19:39.49KriLL3slow
19:39.51KriLL3very slow
19:40.05durcynkorean levels of grind, seriously
19:40.28KriLL3not even an unemployed asian would do it for you for hard cash
19:40.51ulicFunkeh`: is "boss1" an blizzard unit or something BW is doing?
19:40.51durcynyou've never played a korean MMO then, have you
19:41.00KriLL3I have
19:41.02KriLL3briefly
19:41.15durcynit's the grindiest genre i've ever seen
19:41.16Megalona mmo, or an asian grinder? :P
19:41.18Funkeh`ulic, yes, 1-4
19:41.21Megalonthings like rappelz
19:41.24Megalonetc
19:41.26Funkeh`according to which frame you see in the UI
19:41.27KriLL3grindquest grindquest, grind, grind, grindquest
19:41.29Funkeh`under the minimap
19:41.53durcynthey make JRPGs look like walks in the park
19:42.33ulicFunkeh`: in the enraged code you just added, why does it check the name also, wouldn't knowing the unit be good enough?
19:42.49Megalonthey make assassins creed look like the diversified game on the planet
19:43.39Megalonbtw Fisker http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhlvkXLiaCQ
19:43.42Megalonwill you kinect?
19:44.16KriLL3seriously korean mmos are just grind machines
19:44.25KriLL3they feel like actual labor
19:44.40KriLL3a sweat shop would be about the same I think
19:45.11KriLL3and there are no actual quest quests, just the grind kind
19:46.40KriLL3killing mobs, taking items from killed mobs, that's it
19:50.03Funkeh`ulic, not if you were on another boss and it was enabled
19:52.30KriLL3I'm fairly sure being a gold farmer in wow is more fun than playing a korean mmo
19:52.39KriLL3and you get paid, I think
19:53.22Megalon10 cents an hours is good money when you're chinese!
19:53.26Megalonni hao
19:54.12ulicfair enough
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20:05.39KriLL3how many flightpaths are there now?
20:05.45KriLL3slightly more than a million?
20:06.01KriLL3the map you pick on is so full of icons it's hard to tell em apart
20:06.37KriLL3might as well be a grid
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20:32.41BalreignDoes someone know haw to read .dbc files?
20:32.47Balreignhow*
20:33.26Balreigngot it
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22:00.21Balreignwarriors are'nt that dangerous
22:00.21Balreignwhat about paladin?
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22:04.29groktarBalreign: KriLL3 likes to panic every time he finds out about another class' ability
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22:04.56Balreignoh, good to know
22:05.12KriLL3I just don't like getting crushed in new and weird ways I haven't before, before I could fight warriors in bearform on equal terms, now they can self heal better than me and hit harder
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22:07.24groktarwell, i guess if you just sit there and try to tank a warrior in bear
22:07.32groktarand do nothing else
22:07.35groktaryou kinda deserve to die
22:10.23groktaralso, enraged regeneration has been around for a long time
22:10.29groktardon't remember if it was wrath or tbc
22:13.44Elkanorage -> hp for bear? was in tbc, since I didn't do feral in wrath
22:16.25groktartalking about the warrior ability
22:17.47groktarwow, i didn't realize that it also benefits from unshackled fury
22:17.57groktarit could heal for more than your total health with a bunch of mastery
22:17.58groktarhehe
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22:19.25FiskerElkano
22:19.30Fiskeri killed 2 dragons
22:19.32Fiskerbut noone cares :(
22:19.37KriLL3Elkano: yes
22:19.50KriLL3groktar: well it's worked so far
22:20.03KriLL3warriors couldn't heal in the past, thus wait em out
22:20.17KriLL3play defensively and sooner or later they're a corpse
22:20.25groktaryeah, that's bad gameplay
22:21.05KriLL3has been a solid tactic since vanilla
22:21.32KriLL3especially since warriors hit like trucks outside of bearform
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22:21.41groktareh
22:21.42KriLL3and now they got even more stuns
22:21.53Gnarfozthey gained any stuns? that's news to me
22:21.55groktararmor is so much closer between warriors and kitties now
22:21.58groktarwhat Gnarfoz said
22:22.03groktarand so are hp pools
22:22.11Gnarfozanyway, stop whining damnit, you did that the last time you were around, you're doing it now, it's fucking annoying
22:23.08groktariirc warriors have lost 1 stun this xpac
22:23.13groktarrevenge stun
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22:24.32KriLL3well they got something new, they charge, that's one stun, then one more stun, and then a third stun
22:24.35Fiskerhey KriLL3
22:24.36KriLL3and they knock your on your ass
22:24.38Fiskerhey groktar
22:25.04KriLL3and I can't CC em anymore, I root and when I turn around they're on me again
22:25.07KriLL3no idea how they do that
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22:26.14Gnarfozintercept?
22:26.29Gnarfozclears movement impairing effects if talented (or glyphed? one of those)
22:27.20KriLL3cooldown on that?
22:27.36FiskerGnarfoz?
22:27.39Fiskermay i like you?
22:27.45Gnarfozonly on friendface
22:27.56Fiskeroh ok
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22:28.51Fiskerhey Antiarc
22:28.54Fiskerwaves
22:30.10AntiarcHi fisker.
22:30.16Repo10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r7652 / (2 files in 2 directories): frFR Update
22:30.38Fiskergets all excited
22:30.45Fiskergot a nexus s?
22:30.50AntiarcNo, not yet.
22:30.55Fiskerwant one?
22:31.05AntiarcIf you're giving one away? Yesplz.
22:31.14AntiarcIf I have to spend money on it, I have to be an adult :(
22:31.16Fiskerprobably should've asked if you were getting one :P
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22:32.03Fiskerimma get dual core
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22:32.13Fiskerhtc should make one though
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22:34.19KriLL3not a fan of htc's designs myself
22:35.36Balreignnexus s is not an htc
22:35.46KriLL3they seem to make 3 phones with just some variation, the small crappy one with dialpad, the larger one that opens in some improbable way to reveal a superfluous physical keyboard or the huge touch screen only phone, and all of them are very plastic and feel like a toy
22:35.47Fiskerwhere did i say it was?
22:36.13Fiskeranyway i really wanted a proper Nexus S :(
22:36.24Fiskerthe cool part about the Nexus is that it's supported by google
22:36.33Jerubi have a htc magic. which is the 'huge touch screen only phone' category
22:36.35KriLL3can't you get a galaxy s and just replace the horrible samsung rom with a proper stock one?
22:36.36Jerubi kinda like it
22:36.36Fiskerso not so much waiting for updates BS
22:36.36Balreignnowhere, I didn't ready KriLL3 correcly
22:36.49Fiskermight as well get a Nexus S then KriLL3
22:36.56BalreignKriLL3, you can
22:37.26KriLL3yeah but isn't the nexus s only available for direct purchase? aka whole phone's price in one lump?
22:38.53Fiskergah
22:39.04FiskerNexus S is like 65% more expensive in the UK
22:39.18KriLL3that's how it works
22:39.30KriLL3"durr isn't USD == EURO?"
22:39.50Fiskernot 65% KriLL3 ;(
22:39.53KriLL3well that's how steam works at least
22:40.04KriLL3steam prices in euro are the same as the usd price
22:40.10Fiskerthat's more like 5% than 65%
22:40.13KriLL3and by same I mean same number, not same actual
22:40.17KriLL3no it's not
22:40.20Elkanolucky that I have connections to the US ^^
22:40.22KriLL3it's like 40%
22:40.37Fiskernaw KriLL3
22:41.17KriLL3can hunters parry from behind with that lame "zomg I parry all!" button? or while stunned?
22:41.42KriLL31 Euro = 1.3204 U.S. dollars
22:41.45KriLL3so 30%
22:42.13Fiskeroh
22:42.21Fiskerdidn't know you didn't have VAT in your country
22:42.27Fiskerthen yeah it's 40%
22:42.32KriLL3wha?
22:42.34Fiskeryou have like negative VAT right?
22:42.41Fiskerwhere you get 8% of the product you purchase
22:42.58KriLL3our VAT is higher than that
22:42.59KriLL315%
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22:45.44Repo10big-wigs: 03Maat * r7653 / (2 files in 2 directories):
22:45.45RepoRemove health check on Halfus, Add heroic abilities on Omnotron heroic, add heroic 10 man spellIds
22:47.26groktarKriLL3: prot warriors have concussion blow and shockwave
22:47.33groktarin addition to the regular charge/intercept
22:47.53groktaroh, there is a knockdown
22:47.55KriLL3not prot
22:48.04Fiskeri don't wanna sleep :(
22:48.06KriLL3hmm throwdown
22:48.09KriLL3that's a new one
22:49.00groktarafaik there intercept/charge shouldn't break roots
22:49.05groktaronly talented intervene
22:49.10groktarwhich is deep in prot
22:51.00groktarthere used to be something in wrath for arms, but i don't remember exactly what it was
22:51.12groktarthey took out all arms' charge/intercept tlanets when they put in heroic leap
22:51.30KriLL3http://www.wowhead.com/spell=60970  http://www.wowhead.com/spell=57499
22:51.44groktarthat's deep fury
22:51.51groktaryou can't get throwdown with it
22:51.59groktarwarbringer is deep prot
22:52.09groktarbeen around since wrath
22:52.20groktarsame for heroic fury
22:53.17KriLL3well what ever it is, it feels like rooting warriors in pvp is a waste of time now
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22:53.36KriLL3add in leap and they're unavoidable
22:53.53Repo10libfail-2-0 (experimental): 03Maat * r14 LibFail-2.0.lua:
22:53.54RepoGeneralDamageFail now only fires when there is actual damage
22:53.55Repofix Omnotron Chemical cloud
22:53.56Repoadd Magmaw Pillar of Flame
22:53.57Repoadd Omnotron System Barrier - not yet working as it should
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23:12.14Repo10little-wigs: 03Zidomo * r807 / (4 files in 4 directories):
23:12.15RepoComment out locales.xml from modules that don't currently contain locale files to prevent Frame.XML loading errors/delays.
23:12.41harlgoblin nazis oO
23:15.13harlsomething wrong with that thought
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23:35.54KriLL3NEIN NEIN NEIN
23:36.28KriLL3too bad it's not a hot female nazi
23:36.30KriLL3in leather
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23:54.01Repooption for showing alt currency gains
23:54.02Repogbank money split strings
23:55.22mckenziemc@describe touhin
23:55.28Repomckenziemc: http://www.wowace.com/addons/touhin/. Touhin. Visual loot monitor

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